April 9, 2015 
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April 9, 2015 [00:02:28] *** zer0her0 has joined #haiku[00:05:09] *** zer0her0 has quit IRC[00:10:05] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[00:12:36] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:14:50] <kallisti5> welp[00:14:58] <kallisti5> screw firewalld http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/buildslaves/kallisti5-fedora02[00:17:03] <jessicah> heh[00:17:27] *** Qatz has joined #haiku[00:34:08] *** Sqt has quit IRC[00:35:09] *** AlexStraunoff has joined #haiku[00:37:13] *** AlexStraunoff is now known as Sqt[00:37:22] *** Sqt is now known as Sqr[00:38:05] *** Sqr is now known as Sqt[00:46:26] *** oblo has quit IRC[00:50:08] *** scanty has quit IRC[00:50:54] *** Sir_Designer has quit IRC[00:56:22] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[00:58:31] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[01:01:12] *** axeld has quit IRC[01:02:55] *** Sir_Designer has joined #haiku[01:03:32] *** Sir_Designer has quit IRC[01:06:04] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:07:12] *** soakbot has quit IRC[01:07:27] *** soakbot has joined 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hrev49016 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=35df7c671ef5+%5Ecb6de5e19bdd[05:20:58] <HAIKU-irker599> 35df7c671ef5: Update pci.ids from pciids.sourceforge.net[05:50:03] <bbjimmy> doda at this point it requires a dev to add each file to haikudepot.[05:53:46] *** qNemo has quit IRC[05:55:41] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[06:20:31] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[06:22:57] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[06:26:04] *** Akuji has quit IRC[06:31:32] *** cebulon has quit IRC[06:40:17] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[06:42:54] *** xybr2 has quit IRC[06:43:14] *** xybr2 has joined #haiku[06:46:11] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[06:48:03] *** Akuji__ has joined #haiku[06:49:17] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[06:50:31] *** Akuji has quit IRC[06:51:49] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[06:53:25] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[06:55:26] *** Akuji__ has quit IRC[07:01:02] *** Akuji has quit IRC[07:06:34] *** Dane_ has quit IRC[07:07:34] *** kcj has joined #haiku[07:08:29] *** bitkid has joined 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quit IRC[13:23:40] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[13:23:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[13:36:00] *** Akuji has quit IRC[13:36:03] *** wesbluemarine has quit IRC[13:36:41] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[13:42:42] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[13:51:57] <Akuji> Several weeks ago I've contacted the makers of PVS Studio static code analyser (http://www.viva64.com/en/). They often use their commercial tool to test open-source projects and publish their results to respective developers and community. You may check the list of already tested OS-software here: http://www.viva64.com/en/a/0084/.[13:52:05] <Akuji> So I've asked them to check Haiku source code and now the task is complete. They're preparing 1 or even 2 articles which will be published online, and the list of errors which will be sent to Haiku development team. They only ask us to publish the news regarding the test via PVS Studio on Haiku website and any other Haiku-related online resources as small 'thank you'. I hope it’s possible, isn’t it?[14:13:03] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:17:52] *** pvalue54 has joined #haiku[14:21:47] *** hagen has quit IRC[14:22:10] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[14:35:23] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[14:40:24] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[14:49:27] *** oblo has quit IRC[14:49:54] <Paradoxon> Akuji maybe if they did a test ... you can write a small Blog entry on haiku-os the admins then can easy mark it for the front side[14:50:04] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:50:33] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[14:52:44] *** Hare has joined #haiku[14:59:32] *** Akuji has quit IRC[15:03:53] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[15:13:53] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[15:15:21] *** oblo has joined #haiku[15:18:21] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[15:29:20] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[15:35:42] *** Animal-X has joined #haiku[15:51:55] *** pvalue54 has quit IRC[16:02:01] <hasta> new day, new haiku bugs[16:05:30] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[16:09:50] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[16:24:49] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[16:28:27] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[16:37:51] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[16:43:07] *** Guest3643 has quit IRC[17:00:22] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:04:49] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[17:18:45] *** Barrett has quit IRC[17:24:18] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:30:43] *** oblo has quit IRC[17:31:11] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:31:44] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[17:40:55] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[17:58:18] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[18:03:32] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[18:04:02] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[18:13:18] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[18:15:49] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[18:22:06] *** subcritical has quit IRC[18:23:48] *** hasta has left #haiku[18:39:22] *** matt__ has joined #haiku[18:39:58] *** matt__ has quit IRC[18:40:02] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[18:43:15] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[18:44:32] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:44:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:50:53] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:00:53] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[19:02:03] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[19:02:43] *** _marc` has quit IRC[19:04:49] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[19:04:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[19:13:57] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[19:14:10] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[19:14:11] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[19:18:32] *** moe85 has joined #haiku[19:18:38] <moe85> hey all[19:19:17] <PulkoMandy> hi[19:21:19] <moe85> any advise if it makes sense to give Mesa LLVM enhanced Gallium software pipe renderer a try in the current version?[19:21:59] <PulkoMandy> it works for some apps, but I think there are other problems making it difficult to run mesa stuff currently[19:22:45] <moe85> ok, if one installs the package, is it possible to disable renderer afterwards?[19:23:08] <PulkoMandy> just uninstall the package and reinstall the other renderer (mesa_swrast)[19:24:14] <moe85> just for my understanding: which demo / app does use mesa?[19:24:19] <moe85> all open GL apps?[19:25:02] <PulkoMandy> yes, in the included ones you have Haiku3D and GLTeapot[19:25:23] <PulkoMandy> but, we have 2 versions of Mesa[19:25:35] <PulkoMandy> one for gcc2 apps (Mesa 7.something) which doesn't have the llvm support[19:25:51] <PulkoMandy> and one for gcc4 apps (10.something) with the two renderers available[19:26:18] <moe85> i'm running the gcc2 version of haiku (latest nightly) and see the package in the depot?[19:26:42] <PulkoMandy> yes, in the standard version of Haiku we have both gcc2 and gcc4[19:26:43] <moe85> 10.1.0-2[19:27:03] <PulkoMandy> ~> ls /system/packages/mesa*[19:27:04] <PulkoMandy> /system/packages/mesa_devel-7.9.2-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg /system/packages/mesa_x86_devel-10.1.0-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg /system/packages/mesa_x86-10.1.0-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg[19:27:04] <PulkoMandy> /system/packages/mesa_swrast-7.9.2-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg /system/packages/mesa_x86_swrast-10.1.0-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg /system/packages/mesa-7.9.2-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg[19:27:12] <PulkoMandy> as you can see the two versions are installed[19:27:23] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[19:27:24] <PulkoMandy> (packages with _x86 in the name are for gcc4 apps)[19:27:25] <moe85> so I could give it a try... ;)[19:27:51] <PulkoMandy> I must go now, sorry.[19:28:07] <moe85> thanks for your advise![19:28:11] <moe85> bb[19:34:02] <humdinger> Hey Dane_! Got the DiscoverHaiku stick today! :)[19:34:04] <humdinger> Thanks![19:35:58] <moe85> which version of haiku is DiscoverHaiku based on?[19:36:05] <humdinger> Dane_: The BShisen and Colorballs packages are slightly broken: the links to those in the deskbar are broken. Otherwise I didn't have time to explore the distro in detail. Doing that this weekend.[19:36:14] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[19:36:25] <humdinger> moe85: hrev48834[19:36:30] <Dane_> humdinger: thanks for the heads up I'll check on them[19:36:47] <Dane_> moe85: Quite recent, maybe two weeks ago[19:37:06] <humdinger> Dane_: they point to /apps/BeShisen instead of /apps/BiShisen/BeShisen.[19:37:13] <moe85> does it use the same depots?[19:37:19] <moe85> (as the base haiku)[19:37:25] <Dane_> moe85: Yes I think so[19:37:30] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:37:55] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[19:37:58] <moe85> alright thanks[19:38:21] <Dane_> moe85: It's been awhile since I set it up, but I'm quite sure it does.[19:38:27] <humdinger> Dane_: Also, you should delete your monitor info, i.e. ~/config/settings/system/app_server/workspaces.[19:38:55] <Dane_> humdinger: What is the potential problem if that info is there?[19:39:18] <humdinger> I did have some issues with the resolution not being detected. The problem lies deeper, but having a wrong config file isn't great in any case I guess.[19:39:24] *** Guma has joined #haiku[19:40:06] <Dane_> humdinger: I'm not sure how I could keep doing that, since every time I boot to the install volume, that data is probably added again.[19:40:53] <humdinger> yes, but before you burn the production image, mount the stick/image in anohr Haiku and delete that file.[19:41:03] <humdinger> *another[19:41:28] <Dane_> Sounds like I shouldn't install to the sticks directly from the image I'm booted to, in that case.[19:41:50] <humdinger> rigth.[19:41:56] <Dane_> Good to know, thanks.[19:41:57] <humdinger> aw...[19:41:58] <humdinger> right[19:42:31] <humdinger> you can mount the production image and have it as "source" in the Installer, of course.[19:42:40] <Dane_> Right[19:43:07] <humdinger> anyhoo. I have to run to my first BBQ this year! :)[19:43:11] <Dane_> I suppose I could have some sort of "cleanup script" I run that takes care of any of that stuff.[19:43:14] <Dane_> humdinger: have fun[19:43:25] <humdinger> "FilWip" soon in HaikuDepot! :)[19:43:27] <humdinger> Thanks![19:43:28] <Dane_> I'd say "don't eat too much," but that would defeat the whole purpose[19:43:39] <humdinger> right! ;)[19:43:41] <Dane_> :-)[19:43:43] <humdinger> cya[19:43:44] <Dane_> l8r[19:43:46] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:43:47] * Dane_ away[19:44:20] <moe85> guys, im just getting back to beos / haiku. i remember there was a tool, that automatically rearranges the window tabs if the overlay. does anyone have the name for me?[19:47:00] <moe85> er, and what happened to haikuware.co? :-/[19:47:15] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[19:50:00] <Dane_> moe85: looks like their server is down[19:52:17] *** Dane_ has quit IRC[19:52:57] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[19:58:09] *** Dane_ has quit IRC[19:58:20] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[20:02:45] <moe85> will be back tomorrow. cu[20:02:48] *** moe85 has quit IRC[20:08:41] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[20:08:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[20:15:21] *** Shawn has joined #haiku[20:15:27] *** Shawn has left #haiku[20:31:28] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[20:31:41] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[20:31:48] <bbjimmy> because haikuware is down ... http://67.219.227.56/fatelk/yab/[20:32:06] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[20:32:35] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[20:34:00] *** oblo has joined #haiku[20:36:15] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[20:48:56] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[20:49:57] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:54:13] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[20:54:44] *** _Dario has quit IRC[21:00:40] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[21:05:18] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:10:39] *** luroh has joined #haiku[21:11:59] *** iMe has joined #haiku[21:14:32] <iMe> Hi, I am trying to follow the learn to program in the Haiku site, and have finally reached lesson 14 were we actually creates a window ! :) But I hae a problem that I can not solve myself. I get the following errormessages from gcc wheneer I try to compile the little program.[21:14:32] <iMe> /tmp/ccdXkHOg.o: In function `App::App(void)':[21:14:32] <iMe> App.cpp:(.text+0x26): undefined reference to `BApplication::BApplication(char const *)'[21:14:33] <iMe> App.cpp:(.text+0xc3): undefined reference to `BWindow::BWindow(BRect, char const *, window_type, unsigned long, unsigned long)'[21:14:55] <iMe> And then there are about 1000 of the same ....[21:15:00] <iMe> Anyone have any idea?[21:15:36] <puckipedia> have you used -lbe?[21:16:02] <puckipedia> (e.g. gcc -oexample_app -lbe App.cpp)[21:16:24] <iMe> no, what is lbe? I just typed gcc App.cpp[21:17:06] <puckipedia> right, you need libbe.so linked to have most of the BeAPI (everything that starts with B, like BApplication and BWindow)[21:17:33] <puckipedia> I'd suggest you use something like gcc -oapp -lbe App.cpp, which builds App.cpp to a file called 'app' and links it with libbe[21:17:47] <iMe> aha... it actually worked !!! Nice and huge thnx!![21:18:39] <iMe> that part is missing from the learn to program instructions.. Or I read them very badly :))[21:18:52] <puckipedia> I think it is actually mentioned[21:19:06] *** Nekron_ has joined #haiku[21:21:02] <iMe> They use Paladin in the example, so maybe Paladin does this for you..[21:21:39] <puckipedia> yeah[21:21:54] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:22:05] *** HaikuUser is now known as doda[21:22:21] <puckipedia> fyi, you can copy a makefile (with almost everything handled for you: dependencies, compiling correctly) from /system/development/etc/makefile iirc[21:22:55] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[21:22:57] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: janus * hrev49017 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=baa27ccb3014+%5E35df7c671ef5[21:22:58] <HAIKU-irker599> baa27ccb3014: ShowImage: Multipage images displayed in sequence.[21:24:07] <iMe> puckipedia: thnx for the info, I'll do that.[21:24:15] *** iMe has quit IRC[21:32:10] *** freakazoid0223 has left #haiku[21:35:38] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[21:35:51] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[21:39:13] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:42:27] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[21:43:40] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[21:44:47] *** Hare has quit IRC[21:53:49] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[22:06:45] *** Guma is now known as Guma_[22:07:10] *** Guma_ is now known as Guma[22:10:29] *** doda has quit IRC[22:32:53] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:35:11] <bbjimmy> I need a way to convert an icon file to an rdef file from the command line.[22:36:24] <bbjimmy> I know that Icon-O-Matic does it, but that doesn't work from a script.[22:47:18] *** Hare has joined #haiku[22:59:35] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[23:06:26] *** TimKack has quit IRC[23:07:05] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:09:04] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[23:17:33] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:25:35] *** heoyea has joined #haiku[23:41:28] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[23:47:39] *** Nekron_dev has joined #haiku[23:47:42] *** Nekron_dev has quit IRC[23:50:16] *** Nekron_ has quit IRC[23:52:01] *** breze has joined #haiku[23:57:03] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[23:57:12] <breze> hello people, im just started live usb w/heiku, just want say thank you and ask if some testing/info about usage still needed