April 8, 2015 
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April 8, 2015 [00:03:51] *** bitkid_ has joined #haiku[00:06:02] *** bitkid has quit IRC[00:08:06] *** FreeFull has joined #haiku[00:11:37] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[00:14:14] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1567 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/1567[00:20:05] *** gro_0ve has joined #haiku[00:21:32] *** gro_0ve has left #haiku[00:22:30] *** jua_ has quit IRC[00:31:25] *** soakbot has quit IRC[00:31:41] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[00:31:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[00:33:36] *** iMe_ has joined #haiku[00:34:15] *** iMe has quit IRC[00:36:38] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[00:38:42] *** xybr2 has quit IRC[00:39:10] *** xybr2 has joined #haiku[00:58:28] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:09:27] *** iMe_ has quit IRC[01:11:52] *** reaply has quit IRC[01:12:02] *** iMe has joined #haiku[01:15:18] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[01:18:05] *** Guma has joined #haiku[01:19:09] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[01:24:16] *** xybr2 has quit IRC[01:24:43] *** xybr2 has joined #haiku[01:29:27] *** _Dario has quit IRC[01:29:52] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[01:32:10] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[01:35:42] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[01:43:57] *** iMe has quit IRC[01:44:34] *** iMe has joined #haiku[01:49:02] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[01:49:03] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[01:49:18] <Dane__> I think I goofed somewhere :-P[01:49:19] <Dane__> :-)[01:49:50] <Dane__> Can't get Web+ to launch anymore...it's looking for libsqlite3.so.0[01:52:36] *** Akuji has quit IRC[01:56:01] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[01:56:10] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[01:56:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[01:56:19] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[01:57:17] *** oblo has quit IRC[01:59:01] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[01:59:51] <jessicah`> Dane__: tried reinstalling the package?[02:00:21] <jessicah`> in terminal, pkgman install sqlite_x86[02:00:29] <Dane__> jessicah` Ah thanks[02:00:43] <jessicah`> hopefully that's all it is[02:00:55] <Dane__> It says "Nothing to do"[02:01:08] <jessicah`> then it's already installed...[02:02:01] <jessicah`> you could try move the package out of /boot/system/packages to say the desktop[02:02:15] <jessicah`> and just close the dialog that pops up[02:02:19] <jessicah`> then move it back[02:02:45] <Dane__> ok trying that[02:05:02] <Dane__> struck out there I think[02:05:29] <jessicah`> then I don't know[02:05:33] <Dane__> thanks for trying[02:05:43] <Dane__> rebooting[02:05:51] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[02:12:47] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[02:22:52] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:38:36] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[02:42:47] *** Akuji has quit IRC[02:53:11] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:10:56] *** hagen has quit IRC[03:11:26] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[03:38:18] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[03:42:48] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[03:42:55] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[03:42:55] *** 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AsalleKim has quit IRC[08:52:24] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[08:53:19] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[08:55:35] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[09:07:35] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[09:10:48] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[09:20:36] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[09:20:45] *** GeneralDuke has joined #haiku[09:28:34] *** kcj has joined #haiku[09:31:05] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[09:32:01] <HAIKU-irker599> looncraz-github.shapedwindow: [1 commit] https://github.com/looncraz/haiku/compare/39cdc595616a[09:32:02] <HAIKU-irker599> 39cdc595616a: Window Shaping[09:40:24] *** leszek has joined #haiku[09:46:14] *** Diver has joined #haiku[09:46:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Diver[09:50:39] *** hasta has quit IRC[09:52:06] *** pisculichi has quit IRC[09:53:33] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:54:39] *** Diver has quit IRC[09:57:37] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[10:00:08] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[10:00:19] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[10:06:58] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[10:09:55] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[10:15:27] *** kushalsingh007_ has quit IRC[10:15:58] *** kushalsingh007_ has joined #haiku[10:22:54] *** kushalsingh007_ is now known as kushalsingh007[10:26:45] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[10:26:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[10:28:57] *** Akuji has quit IRC[10:34:55] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[11:00:20] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[11:03:47] *** geist has quit IRC[11:03:54] *** geist has joined #haiku[11:03:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[11:15:43] *** Sir_Designer has quit IRC[11:16:02] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:16:08] *** nighty^ has joined #haiku[11:16:19] *** Sir_Designer has joined #haiku[11:16:31] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:17:12] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev49009 [5 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2a36368bda35+%5E6ea53cb5bbd5[11:17:13] <HAIKU-irker599> 77c35db9a9c8: desklink: Whitespace cleanup only.[11:17:14] <HAIKU-irker599> 5c7707fc3450: desklink: Use early return, no functional change.[11:17:15] <HAIKU-irker599> 8708474567be: HaikuDepot: Clean up trailing whitespace.[11:17:16] <HAIKU-irker599> 3525a370d459: HaikuDepot: Add missing init of fSize in default constructor.[11:17:17] <HAIKU-irker599> 2a36368bda35: HaikuDepot: Make BitmapView use SharedBitmaps directly.[11:20:36] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[11:27:37] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1576 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1576 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[11:35:00] *** Akuji has quit IRC[11:46:03] *** kcj has quit IRC[11:53:45] <Paradoxon> can i add more than one library with LD_PRELOAD= ???[11:56:50] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1563 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1563[11:58:59] *** iMe has quit IRC[12:01:48] *** iMe has joined #haiku[12:05:01] *** irishsultan has joined #haiku[12:27:05] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[12:30:24] *** hagen has joined #haiku[12:32:11] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[12:33:51] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[12:42:26] <jessicah> Paradoxon: try it and see?[12:43:15] <jessicah> Maybe like ="lib1 lib2" or maybe comma or semicolon separated[12:52:41] *** iMe has quit IRC[12:54:06] <Paradoxon> ok i will try... cant now. i am at work.. but maybe tonight :-D[12:55:52] *** iMe has joined #haiku[12:56:54] *** heoyea has quit IRC[12:57:31] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev49010 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=abf230a9ac47+%5E2a36368bda35[12:57:32] <HAIKU-irker599> e25776bd83f3: Whitespace cleanup only.[12:57:33] <HAIKU-irker599> abf230a9ac47: malloc_debug: Set default alignment to max_align_t if available.[12:59:17] *** heoyea has joined #haiku[13:05:42] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1592 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1592 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[13:08:46] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1564 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1564 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[13:14:48] *** avril14th_ has joined #haiku[13:19:44] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:28:45] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1577 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1577[13:28:57] *** leszek has quit IRC[13:34:14] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1532 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/1532[13:35:14] *** iMe has quit IRC[13:36:14] *** nighty^_ has joined #haiku[13:36:38] *** iMe has joined #haiku[13:49:56] *** oblo has joined #haiku[13:58:12] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[13:58:36] <HaikuUser> hello[13:58:55] <HaikuUser> can somebody help me how to use haiku this is my first time[13:59:20] <HaikuUser> for what can i use it for[14:02:35] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[14:03:41] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[14:03:41] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[14:12:47] *** iMe has quit IRC[14:20:31] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser if you stay online for more than 5minutes shure :-D[14:44:36] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:50:27] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:50:27] *** HaikuUser is now known as salut_8[14:50:38] <salut_8> hey[14:51:38] <NOSCag> hi[14:51:53] <salut_8> I'm trying the nightly :) it looks nice[14:52:08] <salut_8> is the alpha 4.1 really since november 2012 ?[14:52:25] <salut_8> I keep hearing about haiku from day to day, I'm surprised :p[14:53:39] <NOSCag> yup, its been a long time[14:53:53] <NOSCag> but the nigthlies are usually stable[14:57:22] <Paradoxon> and you can update them without reainstalling :)[14:57:30] <salut_8> yep[14:57:36] <salut_8> I got an error though, on 'beshare'[14:57:47] <salut_8> of missing symbol[14:57:55] <Paradoxon> wich beshare?[14:58:01] <Paradoxon> from haikudepot or haikuware[14:58:11] <Paradoxon> ?[14:58:11] <salut_8> hm[14:58:25] <salut_8> haikudepot[14:59:32] <salut_8> hm and I launched the terminal once, closed it, I can't open it again :p[14:59:48] <salut_8> oh.. ok I can[14:59:55] <salut_8> it was the missing symbol window who was blocking[15:02:11] *** salut_8 has quit IRC[15:07:35] <Paradoxon> oh :)[15:23:01] *** lucjon has joined #haiku[15:28:00] *** lucjon has quit IRC[15:34:54] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[15:34:56] *** waveperson45 has joined #haiku[15:38:55] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[15:42:53] *** lucjon has joined #haiku[15:45:18] *** NOSCag has left #haiku[15:47:35] *** Akuji has quit IRC[15:48:14] *** NOSCag has joined #haiku[15:48:26] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[15:48:50] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[15:48:56] *** waveperson45 has quit 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haiku.master: mmlr * hrev49011 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2bd0b27f5d97+%5Eabf230a9ac47[17:10:19] <HAIKU-irker599> d854f235bc70: Tracker: Remove an old PPC STL workaround.[17:10:20] <HAIKU-irker599> 0a74a0052690: Tracker: Remove two outdated comments, whitespace cleanup.[17:10:21] <HAIKU-irker599> 2bd0b27f5d97: Tracker: Fix use-after-free by ref filter of OpenWithPoseView.[17:10:39] *** Nekrodes has joined #haiku[17:17:31] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:23:32] *** haikur has joined #haiku[17:23:34] <haikur> Hi[17:23:54] <haikur> just installed Haiku on an old 200MB ram 2.4ghz machine[17:24:10] <haikur> (don't know why the fine speed, but so little ram)[17:24:22] <haikur> well installed it yesterday[17:24:36] <haikur> using a recent gcc2 hybrid dev iso as reccomennded[17:24:50] <haikur> (tried the rc4 before but it didn't hav HaikuDepot)[17:25:13] <haikur> I'd like to install a vnc server and see references to it but ... it's not anywhere?[17:28:15] *** Nekrodes has left #haiku[17:28:37] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[17:29:00] <haikur> hi[17:29:34] <luroh> haikur: had a look at haikuports?[17:31:02] <haikur> haikur: what is that? I've only used HaikuDepot and attempted to use TileOS and box[17:31:06] <haikur> box -i gimp[17:31:09] <haikur> (or anthing)[17:31:12] <haikur> just hangs[17:31:20] <haikur> ~> box -i gimp[17:31:20] <haikur> Termination requested[17:32:01] <luroh> i'm not surprised, TiltOS s ancient stuff[17:32:10] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:34:17] <haikur> Don't know why it forkbombs[17:34:17] <haikur> luroh: is there a console command to install things (like apt)[17:34:28] <luroh> yes, 'pkgman'[17:35:31] <haikur> luroh: what repos do you suggest I add (seems I can add them)[17:36:19] <haikur> http://bb.haikuports.org/haikuports/wiki/Home[17:36:35] <haikur> is different right (i have to use git0[17:36:42] <luroh> i know there are a few other 3rd party repos but i have not used them[17:37:12] <haikur> luroh do you use haikuports as a repo, or do it via git?[17:37:39] <luroh> via a tool called haikuporter[17:37:43] <haikur> also if one wanted to port, say, darkplaces 3d engine to haiku, is it hard?[17:37:47] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:37:56] <luroh> but, i just checked haikuports and there is only a vnc viewer there[17:38:29] <luroh> haikur: no idea, depends on your skills, i guess[17:38:30] <haikur> nooooo![17:38:44] <luroh> hang on, there may be a vnc server out there[17:38:51] <haikur> http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/internet-network/remote-access/vnc-server-for-haiku[17:38:59] <haikur> dead website[17:39:21] <luroh> yes, not sure what's up with that[17:39:30] <luroh> https://web.archive.org/web/20130825085538/http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/internet-network/remote-access/vnc-server-for-haiku[17:41:55] <luroh> even if the download link wasn't dead, i wouldn't bet it doesn't works with a recent haiku build[17:42:29] <luroh> * i would bet it doesn't work with a recent haiku build[17:43:56] <haikur> what should I do?[17:44:10] <haikur> and what are good things to install from haikuports[17:44:40] <haikur> luroh: is there a way to print to my epson network printers btw?[17:44:53] <haikur> they aren't on the gutenprint list, I have the PPD files though[17:45:16] <haikur> (for somereason no linux comes with them, even though they seem to be GPL, burned them to disc)[17:45:21] <luroh> haikur: you could perhaps check with Alexander G. M. Smith if he has some recent vnc server lying around[17:45:33] <luroh> he's probably on the haiku mailing list[17:45:34] *** iMe has quit IRC[17:45:51] <haikur> luroh: if it was in alpha 4 why was it removed?[17:46:07] <luroh> it was? i have no idea[17:46:32] <haikur> honestly I'm checking out haiku because I was given some older laptops, and I doubted linux would run on what linux in the past ran on[17:46:39] <haikur> also I wanted to try something new[17:46:41] *** cebulon has joined #haiku[17:46:46] <haikur> and haiku doesn't have SystemD[17:46:52] <haikur> and I hate, hate, systemd[17:47:21] <haikur> linux is going the worthless sucking way[17:47:28] <haikur> and linus is happy about it[17:47:39] <haikur> it's being pulled down brick by brick[17:48:15] <luroh> meh, i'm indifferent about systemd[17:48:17] <haikur> I guess because it's free, and people don't like that OSS destroyed the software biz these last years, so if it's removed, no more problem[17:48:22] <luroh> getting mice boot times though :)[17:48:22] <haikur> why?[17:48:26] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1593 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1593[17:48:26] <luroh> nice*[17:48:39] <luroh> don't particularly care about servers[17:48:52] <haikur> luroh: I get very fast boots with sysV[17:49:05] <haikur> sysV has been paralell on Debian since 2010[17:49:09] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[17:49:34] <haikur> and, it's easy to turn on/off what boots via rcconf[17:49:47] <haikur> with upstart, and systemd, I am lost[17:50:09] <puckipedia> > systemctl disable sshd # disable sshd[17:51:06] <haikur> just have to "accept" all the garbage starting up[17:51:06] <haikur> and not prune it down to the 3 things I actually want starting[17:51:06] <haikur> it's easier in windows to manage than these new inits[17:51:35] <haikur> I do not like the new way[17:51:54] <haikur> with the old way I can add /etc/init.d/tor to the sudo file[17:51:57] <haikur> with the new way[17:52:08] <haikur> lol I'm not adding systemctl to the sudo file[17:52:21] <haikur> that would allow anything to be started / stopped[17:52:44] <puckipedia> you can set up programs to start on socket connections[17:53:05] <haikur> puckipedia: no that is not what I want[17:53:16] <haikur> puckipedia: when I start my comp, I like to have nothing running[17:53:22] <puckipedia> exactly[17:53:25] <haikur> then I do sudo dhclient eth0[17:53:28] <haikur> when I choose[17:53:29] <puckipedia> it boots when you connect to the socket[17:53:31] <haikur> no[17:53:35] <haikur> that's NOT what I want[17:53:57] <haikur> nothing automatic other than login, cryptdisks, X and WDM[17:54:04] <haikur> once I'm in X[17:54:11] <haikur> sometimes I do coding for a few hrs[17:54:12] <haikur> then[17:54:17] <haikur> sudo dhclient eth0[17:54:25] <haikur> sudo /etc/init.d/tor start[17:55:00] <haikur> since the tor start script is a script it can be added to sudoers file[17:55:07] <haikur> and only does things for itself[17:55:17] <haikur> systemctl cannot be used like that[17:55:57] <haikur> (would have to make a script to just call systemctl start bla)[17:55:57] <haikur> systemd/linux is another OS[17:55:57] <haikur> it isn't linux[17:56:00] <haikur> gtk3 isn't gtk (removes things gtk2 had)[17:56:10] <haikur> everything is being pulled apart and down[17:56:51] <puckipedia> you know there's more than just Windows / Linux / Haiku, right?[17:57:17] *** lucjon has left #haiku[17:58:14] <haikur> puckipedia: there is also Net,Free,OpenBSD yes[17:58:23] <haikur> but I should not be forced to move[17:58:33] <haikur> Linux actually works now[17:58:34] <puckipedia> you aren't![17:58:40] <haikur> yes I am[17:58:45] <puckipedia> no![17:58:45] <haikur> everyone is forcing systemd[17:58:50] <puckipedia> you can keep using sysV if you want[17:58:54] <haikur> anyone who doesn't like it is told to fuck off[17:59:16] <haikur> yea and they say to us "but the scripts are going to break, HAHAHAHAHH FUCK YOU!"[17:59:25] <puckipedia> that's because, imo, it's a logical progression - a system fit for modern times, being able to handle dependencies etc properly and globally[17:59:28] <haikur> "also we are replacing ALL the commands you used to know, HHAHAHAHAH"[17:59:45] <haikur> puckipedia: what the fuck are you taking about[17:59:52] <haikur> handling dependancies[18:00:04] <haikur> it's called "run levels"[18:00:13] <haikur> allready solved problem[18:00:25] <puckipedia> D:[18:00:40] <haikur> you drank some coolaid[18:01:36] <puckipedia> fyi, SysV init was introduced in 1982[18:01:40] <haikur> so?[18:01:57] <haikur> "For Your Information" "look at my fedora hat"[18:02:01] <haikur> "my lady"[18:02:23] <haikur> Debian SysV init was introduced in 2010.[18:02:23] <luroh> haikur: perhaps running haiku in a virtualbox VM would let you vnc into it[18:02:37] <haikur> luroh: I'm running it on real hardware[18:02:42] <luroh> i know[18:02:45] <haikur> I didn't want to disrespect your work[18:02:58] *** oblo has quit IRC[18:03:02] <haikur> running it in a VM is like saying "yea I '''use''' your OS"[18:03:17] <haikur> luroh: is there an RDP server?[18:03:36] <puckipedia> there is RemoteDesktop, but it uses some Haiku/BeOS-specific features[18:03:58] *** Sir_Designer has quit IRC[18:03:59] <luroh> no, i don't think so, the only thing i've heard about is remote app server[18:04:13] <luroh> but that requires another haiku box to connect from...[18:04:23] <puckipedia> it *is* remote[18:04:29] <luroh> kind of like forwarded X, i'd imagine[18:04:30] *** Sir_Designer has joined #haiku[18:04:41] <luroh> (i have not tried that either)[18:04:43] * puckipedia checks haikuports[18:05:18] <haikur> PC-BSD couldn't even use VESA correctly[18:05:34] <haikur> atleast haiku runs fine graphically on the box[18:05:37] <haikur> (no 3d tho)[18:05:46] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[18:05:48] <puckipedia> there is remotecontrol, which is a simple client/server thing[18:05:49] <haikur> (is there a special way to config that?)[18:05:53] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[18:05:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:05:54] <puckipedia> there is no 3d acceleration[18:06:16] <haikur> it's a shame Linux is being totally ruined now[18:06:26] <haikur> I do 3d design and programming[18:06:38] <haikur> now I won't beable to do it any longer[18:07:21] <haikur> everything good gets taken away[18:07:47] *** pvalue54 has joined #haiku[18:08:09] <haikur> puckipedia: the mesa llvm and other software 3d thing doesn't work either it seems[18:08:17] <haikur> (I installed it, is there a trick?)[18:12:02] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[18:12:02] *** Akuji has quit IRC[18:12:14] *** hmstrmn has joined #haiku[18:13:21] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[18:17:23] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[18:19:54] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:21:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:21:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[18:22:58] *** FreeFull has quit IRC[18:25:29] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev49012 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=47c5baac63e7+%5E2bd0b27f5d97[18:25:30] <HAIKU-irker599> 47c5baac63e7: HaikuDepot: Apply logic from 2a36368 to PackageListView fields.[18:29:07] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:34:26] *** Martini_ has joined #haiku[18:34:50] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1594 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1594 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[18:35:17] *** Hare has joined #haiku[18:37:54] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1534 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/1534 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[18:39:15] *** pvalue54 has quit IRC[18:39:43] <luroh> oh, gitorious is shutting down[18:40:56] <luroh> a crude haikuports grep, https://paste.debian.net/165776[18:43:52] <haikur> luroh: got the vncserver pkg and installed[18:43:56] <haikur> works fine now[18:44:03] <luroh> nice :)[18:44:03] <haikur> just had to change some paths[18:45:21] <haikur> luroh: here's info[18:45:27] <haikur> (1.26 doesn't unzip correctly, 1.25 works fine)[18:45:27] <haikur> 12:17 <@waddlesplash> haikur: VNC server?[18:45:28] <haikur> 12:17 <@waddlesplash> haikur: oh, right, Haikuware is down[18:45:28] <haikur> 12:17 <@waddlesplash> haikur: Alexander G. M. Smith, the original author, still has it on his website: http://www.agmsmith.ca/BeOS/[18:45:30] <haikur> 12:39 < haikur> 2. Move the "InputEventInjector" file that matches your operating system and CPU type into the /boot/home/config/add-ons/input_server/devices/ folder. You can just drag and drop it into the conveniently included symbolic link to that directory. This small program is the fake keyboard[18:45:35] <haikur> and mouse simulator, whch can also be used by other programs to inject other user action eventos into the BeOS/Haiku Input Server.[18:45:38] <haikur> 12:39 < haikur> yea path changed[18:45:41] <haikur> 12:39 < haikur> what is the new path?[18:45:43] <haikur> 12:39 < puckipedia> ~/config/non-packaged/add-ons/input_server/devices[18:45:46] <haikur> 12:40 < haikur> should the bins go to ~/config/non-packaged/bin aswell?[18:45:48] <haikur> 12:40 < PulkoMandy> yes[18:45:51] <haikur>[18:45:53] <haikur> luroh: this should be put in the repos maybe, it works fine[18:45:54] <haikur> just needs path changes slightly[18:46:43] <luroh> yes, a haikuporter recipe could be created, that would be nice[18:47:27] <haikur> well I can confirm it works on x86, the 1.25 vnc version[18:48:16] <haikur> g2[18:48:17] <haikur> g[18:48:19] <haikur> thans[18:48:21] *** haikur has quit IRC[18:59:20] <luroh> looks like everything gitorious has been copied to haikuarchives already[18:59:59] *** has3knivesInPant has quit IRC[19:04:53] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1566 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1566[19:06:58] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49013 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f49c4c091168+%5E47c5baac63e7[19:06:59] <HAIKU-irker599> f49c4c091168: RemoteDesktop: fix -c handling.[19:07:40] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[19:07:58] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[19:08:37] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[19:09:32] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[19:10:47] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[19:10:53] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[19:10:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[19:12:20] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[19:18:10] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1572 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/1572 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at gmail dot com>[19:19:02] <luroh> kallisti5: is there any point in keeping that buildbot online?[19:19:34] <PulkoMandy> or rather, can we fix it?[19:20:17] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev49014 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ae2192e832d8+%5Ef49c4c091168[19:20:18] <HAIKU-irker599> ae2192e832d8: Updated cdrtools. Added BurnItNow.[19:20:18] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[19:20:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[19:22:25] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[19:23:14] <luroh> well, it's been spamming since forever[19:24:58] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:26:24] <PulkoMandy> it was Urias one before[19:26:32] <PulkoMandy> (with the same error)[19:27:02] <PulkoMandy> if all our bots in the US randomly fails this way, it shows there is an actual problem somewhere[19:29:47] <luroh> geist's bots seem to work[19:29:58] *** unicodesnowman has joined #haiku[19:30:11] <luroh> i git cloned from CA and FL last year without problems[19:30:54] <luroh> if there are problems, i'm sure spamming this channel isn't required for solving them[19:31:07] *** unicodesnowman has quit IRC[19:31:07] *** unicodesnowman has joined #haiku[19:32:00] <luroh> (and WA, come to think of it)[19:33:04] <PulkoMandy> possibly it is only some ISP, I don't know[19:33:25] <PulkoMandy> maybe we can make buildbot retry the checkout step before spamming for example[19:34:21] <luroh> i'm sure a lot could be done but it should not be done in here[19:34:43] <luroh> with the operators mostly offline themselves, i find it's sort of rude, even[19:35:10] <PulkoMandy> retry If set, this specifies a tuple of (delay, repeats) which means that when a full VC checkout fails, it should be retried up to repeats times, waiting delay seconds between attempts. If you don't provide this, it defaults to None, which means VC operations should not be retried. This is provided to make life easier for buildslaves which are stuck behind poor network connections.[19:35:23] <PulkoMandy> so, it's a single command to add to our buildbot config[19:35:31] <PulkoMandy> let's open a ticket[19:37:41] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1581 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1581 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>[19:38:02] <PulkoMandy> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11957[19:39:43] *** Akuji has quit IRC[19:42:39] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[19:45:12] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1595 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1595[19:57:32] *** bitkid_ has quit IRC[19:57:53] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:59:30] *** moe85 has joined #haiku[20:02:20] *** leszek has joined #haiku[20:02:42] *** hagen has quit IRC[20:04:02] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[20:19:07] *** moe85 has quit IRC[20:22:41] *** nagerst_ has joined #haiku[20:25:08] *** nagerst has quit IRC[20:27:01] *** oblo has joined #haiku[20:30:23] <geist> yeah i think this particular failure with the checkout isn't exactly like teh ipv6 one that urias and i were having before[20:30:47] <geist> in our case it was having trouble connecting to it randomly (some ipv6 routing problem, most likely at the server end)[20:30:57] <geist> but this one he gets a socket just abruptly closed by the other end[20:31:07] <geist> but as far as i can tell i dont see it[20:34:06] <geist> what we should probably do is just pause kallisti5-fedora2. it seems to just be fedora 2 that's failing[20:39:36] <PulkoMandy> too slow internet access maybe? I got timeouts with git because of that sometimes (but it was in haiku while cloning webkit)[20:40:03] <geist> it's not a timeout though, it's a straight reset from peer[20:40:17] <geist> and it's on the same network as fedora1 which seems to not have this problem[20:40:37] <geist> for a while there i was thinking the server was overloading and killing a process if they all simultaneously try to checkjout at the same time[20:40:49] *** doda has joined #haiku[20:40:50] <geist> but, if that were the case then it seems that it would randomly hit all of the slaves[20:41:27] <PulkoMandy> maybe we can compare the buildslave config for all slaves, but it could also just be different hardware[20:41:46] <geist> yeah though i think the 2 fedora slaves are always from the mac mini pile[20:41:50] <geist> also[20:43:38] <geist> when olta is back on i'll get some sort of login access to the build slave thing and see if pausing fedora 2 makes the problems go away after a day or so[20:44:00] <geist> but fundamentally we need more build bots. i'm nervous that i'm running the lion's share of them now[20:44:15] <geist> if i ever move or something (which i'm thinking of) or have downtime on my net...[20:44:49] <PulkoMandy> well the hardware I could dedicate to that here is probably too slow to be of any use[20:45:05] <PulkoMandy> and I still occasionally use it to make sure my apps work well on very lowend machines anyway[20:45:25] *** wesbluemarine has joined #haiku[20:46:11] *** bitkid has joined #haiku[20:48:45] <geist> yeah, i tested doing a build on a google gcompute node the other day, and it was basically too slow unless you got out of the 'shared' core tier, which then started to run about $35/mo for a machine with enough ram and disk space to do a build[20:48:49] <luroh> i should be able to throw one into the mix[20:49:15] <geist> i'd run it on my linode box, but the buildbot actually requires a pretty substantial amount of disk space. gets close to 100GB or so once it's built all the branches[20:49:23] <geist> and linode is cheap, but not for disk[20:50:13] <geist> i have a xeon machine that i dont use much but i dont really want to leave it running all the time (50W idle) and it'd just be sharing the same overloaded network with the minis[20:52:32] <geist> what would be super ideal is if someone in europe could run something[20:52:39] <puckipedia> hm[20:53:08] <luroh> yes, i have a fanless 4-core 3rd or 4th-gen i7, i think, 4 gb ram, fairly quick thing[20:53:22] *** bitkid has quit IRC[20:53:22] <geist> yeah that should do it[20:53:52] <luroh> adsl, not much upload bandwidth, something like 0.8 mbit/s[20:54:01] <luroh> 5 down[20:54:04] <geist> i should ping urias again, he had a pretty good set up[20:54:24] <geist> yeah the upload is a killer, especially for nightlies. when all 4 of mine are uploading across an 8mbit link it can take a good hour or so[20:54:39] <luroh> heh, wow[20:55:04] <geist> whichi s why i dont really want to pile any more builders on my netowkr[20:57:49] <luroh> i don't use the machine though, would be willing to donate[20:58:05] <luroh> PulkoMandy: how's your upload bw? :)[20:58:28] <PulkoMandy> not fast[20:58:29] <geist> if work wasn't so pushy about stuff i'd just run a box there[20:58:36] <geist> but google is crazy picky about weird stuff on the network[20:58:51] <PulkoMandy> down: 22109 kb/s up: 1025 kb/s (yes these are kilobits, not kilobytes)[20:58:58] <geist> but oh man, my super workstation at work can bujild haiku in like 2.5 minutes[20:59:24] <geist> and we have a gigabit up/down link[20:59:27] <luroh> aye, i would imagine they are picky for good reasons[21:00:10] <PulkoMandy> mh[21:00:39] <PulkoMandy> maybe I could ask the people at some local free software association who are sysadmin in some university[21:00:49] <PulkoMandy> we could probably put a machine there, if we have something rackable[21:00:50] <puckipedia> I may run a builder VM on the machine in our new home[21:01:01] <puckipedia> PulkoMandy: metal plate + mac mini :P[21:01:28] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: having to ship the mac mini from the US makes that not so interesting[21:01:40] <PulkoMandy> unless we transport it during the GCI trip, that it[21:01:52] <puckipedia> hey, smart idea there :P[21:02:04] <geist> yeah that's the trouble. the mac minis are barely worth the cost of shipping[21:02:30] <geist> i kinda worked it out. they still are pretty good power wise (20W idle or so), but a modern nuc will clobber it in every way[21:02:43] <luroh> the fanless i7 box is about the size of a 12" laptop, only thicker, maybe 6 cm or so[21:02:46] <geist> but then those cost $300 or so (probably less if you get a cheapo one)[21:02:50] <luroh> it's nuc-ish[21:02:57] <puckipedia> I was going to buy 1 (or maybe 2) NUC(s) for the home server setup[21:03:07] <PulkoMandy> https://www.paulla.asso.fr/projets/cluster-open-street-map[21:03:20] <geist> so it's not so much if it's free, or the shipping is pretty cheap, but once you start spending more than a few $20 or so on shipping, over the lifetime of the buildbot, it starts to look like you should find a newer one[21:03:27] <PulkoMandy> mh, some machines have no labels on them here. Maybe they are not using those for anything, I should ask :)[21:03:44] <geist> or, if you're not paying for power (like leaving it at your work or soemthing) then a bigger machine is fine[21:03:49] *** FreeFull has joined #haiku[21:04:11] <geist> i budgeted the 4 mac minis as drawing a constant 100W or so, which i can tolerate. that's about $.60/day, which i'll donate to haiku[21:04:23] <geist> about $20/mo[21:05:33] <geist> a single nuc that draws like 7W idle ( i have another little i7 nuc that does) would be able as fast as all 4 minis and draw more like $5/mo, which then means after about a year or two it pays for itself[21:06:04] * puckipedia notes[21:06:05] <geist> but they're close enough that i dont mind much, it's simpler to just recycle old hardware (the mac minis) and let them get a few more years of use[21:06:59] <geist> but if i were to run a single large 50 or 80W machine for it, nah not worth it[21:07:22] *** Nekron_ has joined #haiku[21:07:24] <geist> well, only if it was fast enough to completely replace the minis[21:07:44] <geist> like, i dont see why one couldn't run multiple builders on the same multi core machine. each builder is single threaded anyway[21:08:32] <luroh> i seem to recall there was some problem with multi jobs[21:08:48] <geist> i think they share some common repository or something for checking out[21:08:49] <luroh> but perhaps it was just memory shortage, can't remember[21:08:55] <geist> but you could run like 4 VMs on one box[21:09:01] <luroh> yes[21:09:19] <PulkoMandy> on the minis it was most likely memory shortage[21:09:20] <geist> for example, i have a xeon machine with 8 cores and 16GB ram. would be easy to just run 4 VMs, each with 2 cores and 3GB ram[21:09:38] <luroh> indeed, it could have been the minis[21:10:21] <geist> could be. i haven't really investigated how it lays out the disk. i know it uses a ton (~100GB), so i'm assuming it's because each build type is completely independent and has a separate checkout for everything[21:10:42] <kallisti5> luroh: no idea why it's having issues[21:11:07] <geist> kallisti5: was thinking maybe we should take fedora2 offline for a bit, and see if it ever shows up on fedora1[21:11:16] <kallisti5> luroh: kallisti5-fedora01 is literarily stacked on top of kallisti5-fedora02[21:11:26] <kallisti5> yeah... I someone could also pause it[21:11:43] <kallisti5> I logged into it the other day, no issues. I even disabled ipv6 for kicks[21:11:43] <geist> or, alternatively, take fedora 1 offline and see if 2 starts working (could be the 2nd box in your house is having the issues)[21:12:02] <geist> yeah, i think only olta has access at the moment. when he's back i'll get a user/password set up for the buildbot ui[21:12:02] <kallisti5> geist: lol. It could be a physical connection issue[21:12:07] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[21:12:28] <geist> but i looked in the last 10 builds of each box, and 1 seems to be fine, but i dont know any history beyond that[21:12:29] <kallisti5> geist: I can log into the server.. but not to the interface as far as I know[21:12:47] <geist> yeah olta said i just need to send him a user/pass[21:13:04] <kallisti5> geist: hm not sure. I agree it is annoying and doesn't help the environment if builds sometimes work[21:13:21] <kallisti5> actually... let me connect to it... I can tunnel through my haiku machine :-)[21:13:46] <geist> yea if you just stop the buildbot process we can see over the next few days of 1 ever fails[21:14:13] <PulkoMandy> also, try swapping network cables, just in case ):[21:16:47] <kallisti5> [root@hbbot02 ~]# git clone https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku.git/[21:16:47] <kallisti5> Cloning into 'haiku'...[21:16:49] <kallisti5> hmm.[21:17:05] <geist> it's wedged?[21:18:31] <kallisti5> 8-3[21:18:35] <kallisti5> I disabled iptables[21:18:39] <kallisti5> now it seems to be working[21:18:42] <kallisti5> ...[21:18:55] <kallisti5> who the hell knows. stupid firewalld[21:19:03] <geist> it's different from fedora1?[21:19:09] <PulkoMandy> thanks for fixing :>[21:19:26] <kallisti5> shouldn't be...[21:19:28] * kallisti5 looks[21:19:56] <kallisti5> nope... firewalld running on 01 as well[21:20:02] * kallisti5 disables it on 01[21:20:10] <kallisti5> maybe firewalld started to block something?[21:20:29] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[21:20:38] <geist> could be. that would explain why it decided to stop the socket hard from peer[21:21:56] *** SweetyDumling has joined #haiku[21:22:37] <bbjimmy> latest yab ... http://67.219.227.56/fatelk/yab/yab%2D1%2E7%2E4%2E3%2D1%2Dx86%5Fgcc2%2Ehpkg and http://67.219.227.56/fatelk/yab/yab%5Fide%2D2%2E2%2E4%2E1%2D1%2Dx86%5Fgcc2%2Ehpkg[21:22:40] *** SweetyDumling has joined #haiku[21:23:34] *** axeld has joined #haiku[21:23:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[21:23:55] <kallisti5> anyway, lets see if that fixes it. if not feel free to pause[21:24:16] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49015 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cb6de5e19bdd+%5Eae2192e832d8[21:24:17] <HAIKU-irker599> cb6de5e19bdd: BeagleBoard: fix compilation of dtb.[21:24:24] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: nice![21:25:02] <kallisti5> I hate my cubbieboard[21:25:07] <kallisti5> thing is junk[21:25:13] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[21:25:29] <PulkoMandy> yes, Allwinner stuff generally is[21:25:33] <kallisti5> no fdt... and you have to "bless" sd cards by writing spl to an offset[21:25:42] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:25:52] <PulkoMandy> well each SoC has its trics[21:25:58] <PulkoMandy> as for the fdt, we could write one[21:26:07] <kallisti5> yeah, that was my plan...[21:26:08] <PulkoMandy> isn't there a minimal one in upstream linux yet?[21:26:15] <kallisti5> but i'm getting reeealll tired of this thing[21:26:25] <kallisti5> I think netbsd has one[21:26:38] <kallisti5> the u-boot spl provided in the official repos for CB4 doesn't work[21:26:52] <kallisti5> finally netbsd's worked using the same installation process :-\[21:27:09] <PulkoMandy> yes, I'd say don't use the official repos[21:27:20] <PulkoMandy> they have a dirty patched everything from Allwinner sources[21:27:34] <PulkoMandy> use mainstream linux and u-boot, or from some *BSD who are doing things properly[21:28:00] <kallisti5> they expect the first partition to be +20M on the sd card[21:28:22] <kallisti5> i don't know... half of me wants to just resell the thing and focus on the pi[21:28:25] <PulkoMandy> the Allwinner devices are interesting because they are used in several devices, a good way to test our FDT support[21:28:39] <kallisti5> yeah.. and they are pretty beefy spec wise[21:28:50] <PulkoMandy> we had some SD layout problems with beagle as well[21:29:08] <PulkoMandy> (partition was too small and detected as fat16 instead of fat32 IIRC)[21:30:07] <kallisti5> lol, wow. These arm devices need to standardize[21:30:22] <kallisti5> if they did that they would be kings of the market[21:30:37] <PulkoMandy> they each want to be king of the market without the others :>[21:31:10] <kallisti5> https://github.com/cubieboard/CC-A80-binaries/commit/3f5c75215c11519b1bbb5fe70ae5c80fc2380fda[21:31:15] <kallisti5> I sent a pull request of new binaries[21:31:21] <kallisti5> .. they accepted it[21:31:30] <kallisti5> They didn't test them, or even ask any questions[21:31:39] <kallisti5> that pull could of contained all kinds of bad stuff..[21:31:40] <PulkoMandy> also, they did standardize on u-boot, more or less. The problem is getting that loaded. It could be from SPI flash for example[21:31:45] <PulkoMandy> (the Utilite does that)[21:32:20] <kallisti5> i'm ok with the SPL in theory... but it needs to have FAT support squeezed into it[21:32:51] <PulkoMandy> well[21:32:59] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1616 of haiku-master-arm is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-arm/builds/1616[21:33:04] <PulkoMandy> in that case you would need a FAT that is recognized by u-boot AND all SPLs out there[21:33:06] <kallisti5> WHOOP ARM[21:33:12] <geist> whoa. arm build complete?[21:33:19] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: danke :-)[21:33:51] <PulkoMandy> geist: it is building only a minimal SD image with the kernel and not much more[21:34:05] <geist> yeah but is that the first complete build?[21:34:10] <PulkoMandy> but yes, it builds, when it isn't picked by urias slave which has a too old device tree compiler[21:34:24] <kallisti5> first one after I broke beagle :P[21:34:31] <PulkoMandy> no, it used to work before last begeistert I think. But the result wasn't that interesting then[21:34:44] <PulkoMandy> now you should get a bootscreen and then onscreen KDL[21:34:58] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: you using FDT's yet for uart?[21:35:07] <kallisti5> geist: might want to cover your ears :P[21:35:14] * geist runs away[21:35:30] <PulkoMandy> I don't know, Ithamar did the FDT support but I don't know how far he went with it[21:35:40] * kallisti5 gets the meat[21:36:01] <kallisti5> and yeah... that fdt code should be somewhere more common[21:36:10] <kallisti5> *build code[21:36:48] <PulkoMandy> yes, but I'm not sure where to put it[21:37:04] <PulkoMandy> probably time to think about it again now that there are two boards supported[21:37:11] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/system/kernel/platform/u-boot/fdt_serial.cpp[21:37:11] <PulkoMandy> and before I start work on a 3rd one[21:37:12] *** leszek has quit IRC[21:37:33] <kallisti5> that looks over the FDT, and configures a uart based on the FDT entries[21:37:37] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[21:37:52] <kallisti5> pl011 is arm... and it werks![21:37:57] <kallisti5> err.. pi i mean[21:40:13] <kallisti5> regs = fdt_get_device_reg(fdt, node); gets the base address based on the FDT entry[21:41:00] <kallisti5> my maths might be wrong in fdt_get_device_reg for some devices... so test slowly as no uart == no fun[21:42:33] <kallisti5> beefs http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/system/kernel/platform/u-boot/fdt_support.cpp#n214[21:43:27] <PulkoMandy> well I have some webkit problems to solve first, but I'll try to setup qemu here and have a look[21:44:38] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[21:44:56] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: 100's of ssl invalid cert dialogs?[21:45:17] <PulkoMandy> not even that, just trying to keep our webkit port up to date with upstream[21:45:49] <PulkoMandy> that part should be handled in Web+ btw[21:46:14] <PulkoMandy> actually tell OpenSSL to accept the certificate next time[21:50:14] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[21:50:29] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1582 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1582[21:50:50] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[21:53:41] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[21:54:17] *** bitkid has joined #haiku[21:54:32] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:58:11] <doda> is the package installer on the nightly images using some smaller repo?[21:58:35] <PulkoMandy> smaller than what?[21:59:03] <doda> well dunno, the "stable" release[21:59:04] <puckipedia> it's using the Haiku repo and a subset of the haikuports repo[21:59:15] <PulkoMandy> the last stable release didn't have a package manager at all[21:59:16] <puckipedia> (the subset of which people have taken time to upload it to the repo)[22:00:18] <doda> the app selection seems poorer than i remmember, but maybe i remmember that distro with another japanese name :D[22:00:24] <doda> what was it[22:00:57] <luroh> senryo?[22:02:07] <PulkoMandy> senryu[22:02:14] <doda> yeah i guess[22:02:22] <luroh> ah, right[22:02:29] <PulkoMandy> if you're missing something in particular, we can have a look at adding it to the package repository[22:02:55] <PulkoMandy> right now that is a manual process, we plan to automate it later on so we can have more packages online[22:02:55] *** qNemo has joined #haiku[22:03:32] <PulkoMandy> I don't remember what was available in Senryu however[22:03:56] <doda> yeah, i would like to play with haiku, i always used it when i was bored or sad and haiku helped :D[22:04:35] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[22:04:36] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1569 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1569[22:05:01] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:05:14] *** subcritical has quit IRC[22:05:19] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1537 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/1537[22:05:51] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[22:07:44] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1574 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/1574[22:22:59] *** tqh2 is now known as tqh[22:25:31] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[22:31:32] *** nande has joined #haiku[22:33:05] *** Qatz has quit IRC[22:40:11] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[22:43:34] *** SweetyDumling has quit IRC[22:43:41] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:43:48] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[22:43:55] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[22:43:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[22:44:24] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[22:45:43] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[22:45:45] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:45:45] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[22:49:35] *** iMe has joined #haiku[22:51:55] *** luroh has quit IRC[22:55:20] *** iMe has quit IRC[22:56:20] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[23:02:00] *** Nekron_ has quit IRC[23:06:50] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:10:28] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[23:11:35] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:12:09] *** earthnative has quit IRC[23:12:26] *** earthnative has joined #haiku[23:12:55] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[23:16:02] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:16:31] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:20:13] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[23:21:35] *** iMe has joined #haiku[23:24:05] *** iMe has quit IRC[23:24:52] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[23:26:02] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[23:30:49] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[23:36:32] *** bitkid has quit IRC[23:44:32] *** wesbluemarine has quit IRC[23:46:00] *** Barrett has quit IRC[23:52:36] *** Akuji has quit IRC[23:56:10] *** js has quit IRC[23:58:47] *** js has joined #haiku[23:58:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js