March 31, 2014 
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BitPuffin has joined #haiku[02:13:02] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[02:21:04] *** kkux has quit IRC[02:30:41] *** rvalles has quit IRC[02:33:26] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:41:48] *** Barrett has quit IRC[02:43:09] *** hmstrmn_ has quit IRC[02:47:34] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[02:47:36] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar b3e25e4 - sdl_mixer: Add checksums[02:47:39] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar 4147709 - Fix provides of sdl_{net,mixer}_devel[02:47:43] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar 080ca59 - ca_root_certificates: Add checksums[02:47:45] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar e3c38db - zsh: Add checksums[02:47:46] *** SonicX has quit IRC[02:47:49] <Not-001> [haikuports] Midar 3fd1f25 - libpcre: Add checksums[02:57:48] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[03:04:13] *** Diver1 has joined #haiku[03:04:28] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[03:04:58] *** hamishm__ has joined #haiku[03:05:10] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:06:26] *** 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quit IRC[05:16:19] <jessicah> bbjimmy: do you use branches?[05:16:43] <bbjimmy> I just added the changes to my existing request.[05:16:47] <jessicah> ideally you should create a branch, do your change, commit, push, send pull request[05:17:03] <jessicah> then you can just switch between your branches and stuff[05:17:16] <jessicah> i'm still very novice at git though myself[05:17:19] <bbjimmy> That is what I do, but I had more changes to more recipes to make.[05:17:25] <jessicah> and new to pull requests :)[05:17:40] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[05:17:46] <jessicah> hmm, you want to update your pull request then?[05:18:29] <bbjimmy> That is what I did, but it really should have been a different request as it was a completely different issue.[05:18:51] <jessicah> i'm knda surprised they didn't go with github. that has really nice workflows :)[05:19:09] <jessicah> i even did a patch & pull request all from the browser yesterday :)[05:19:38] <bbjimmy> I don't know how to do a patch.[05:20:08] <jessicah> git commit stuff; git format-patch HEAD^1; or git format-patch origin/master perhaps[05:20:27] <bbjimmy> I am a yab programmer that ended up being a recipe maker. :P[05:20:40] <jessicah> i kind of make it up as i go along[05:20:56] <bbjimmy> git is still magic to me.[05:20:58] <jessicah> learning little bits of workflow that i still mess up all the time[05:21:05] <jessicah> yeah i totally know how you feel[05:21:16] <jessicah> i have a very limited knowledge of how to actually use it[05:21:24] <jessicah> it's a truly complex beast[05:21:40] <bbjimmy> the worst part is waiting for the gate-keepers to actually look at your work.[05:21:49] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[05:22:48] <bbjimmy> almost makes me want to just do my own stuff and leve the haikuports stuff alone.[05:24:42] <jessicah> i think what really needs to happen is a clean separation of haikuporter and haikuports[05:25:07] *** Blub\1 has quit IRC[05:25:23] <jessicah> and have haikuporter depend on pkgman by default[05:25:52] <bbjimmy> what is pkgman?[05:26:02] <jessicah> the command line package installer[05:26:18] <jessicah> and pkgman can have multiple repositories[05:26:42] <jessicah> it's CLI version of HaikuDepot[05:27:03] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[05:27:11] <jessicah> then you're not building everything all the time either[05:27:25] <bbjimmy> from what I understood, haikudeppt could have multiple repositories as well.[05:27:42] <jessicah> which i personally think is more robust, because you're building against a known and available package[05:27:50] <bbjimmy> #haikudepot[05:28:33] <bbjimmy> and not always building only for the version you are running or higher.[05:36:15] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[05:40:42] *** freedomrun has joined #haiku[05:47:46] *** kkux has joined #haiku[06:00:45] *** mta has joined #haiku[06:04:44] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[06:17:07] *** qNemo has joined #haiku[06:17:10] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[06:18:06] *** BitPuffin has quit 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Fixes #10724[08:17:57] <irker-974> aec5be7: Add lzo recipe.[08:23:59] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[08:27:07] *** Blub\1 has quit IRC[08:36:51] *** alpha123 has quit IRC[08:38:30] *** alpha123 has joined #haiku[08:40:38] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[08:42:59] *** arselinux has quit IRC[08:44:36] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:47:42] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[08:52:01] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[08:52:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:04:44] *** BitPuffi1 has joined #haiku[09:08:13] *** BitPuffi1 is now known as BitPuffin[09:12:12] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[09:12:27] *** paul0 has quit IRC[09:16:33] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[09:16:49] *** Blub\0 has joined #haiku[09:18:46] *** _marc` has quit IRC[09:18:59] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[09:22:17] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:22:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:28:36] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[09:32:16] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[09:54:22] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[09:56:40] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[10:00:42] <irker-974> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev47078 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=943b310+%5Eaec5be7[10:00:42] <irker-974> 943b310: Data URLs: fix size computation.[10:01:27] *** KapiX has quit IRC[10:04:26] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[10:14:18] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:17:54] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:45:20] *** stargater has quit IRC[10:48:48] *** stargater has joined #haiku[10:52:45] *** rsnous has joined #haiku[10:52:59] *** osnr has quit IRC[10:53:27] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[10:53:56] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[10:58:00] *** yosafbridge has joined #haiku[11:00:20] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:00:55] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[11:04:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[11:06:43] *** kkux has quit IRC[11:08:32] *** mmadia has quit IRC[11:12:26] *** earthnative has quit IRC[11:12:45] *** earthnative has joined #haiku[11:15:15] *** cebulon has joined #haiku[11:34:06] *** rimio has joined #haiku[12:17:06] *** cebulon has quit IRC[12:38:40] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:42:50] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[12:52:49] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[13:05:36] *** stargater has quit IRC[13:06:29] *** stargater has joined #haiku[13:08:44] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[13:11:51] *** leszek has joined #haiku[13:19:50] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[13:28:03] *** paul0 has quit IRC[13:30:31] *** stippi has quit IRC[13:34:30] *** KapiX has left #haiku[13:35:35] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[13:50:17] *** DrCode has quit IRC[13:54:07] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[13:59:22] *** DrCode has joined #haiku[14:09:05] *** stargate1 has joined #haiku[14:09:09] <arfonzo> ahoy, Haiku friends[14:09:19] <gordonjcp> arfonzo: afternooon[14:09:35] <arfonzo> oh, so it is... crap...[14:26:11] *** HAIKU-Buildbot_ has joined #haiku[14:28:07] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[14:30:58] *** freedomrun has joined #haiku[14:37:51] *** leszek has quit IRC[14:42:48] *** HaikuUser has joined 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#haiku[16:25:13] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[16:25:42] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[16:29:40] *** stargate1 has quit IRC[16:44:41] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[16:45:31] <jjido_> Is there a single command to upgrade alpha 4 to a particular hrev?[16:46:30] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[16:46:32] <KapiX> upgrading is not yet supported[16:46:39] <KapiX> not even in nightlies[16:46:45] <Begasus> 'lo peeps[16:47:30] <jjido_> okay so I am good for a reinstall[16:49:13] <jjido_> Recent builds recognise my screen correctly, but alpha 4 uses a broken resolution / rate[16:51:02] *** poxip has joined #haiku[16:53:18] <jjido_> I downgraded to see if it would fix my wireless issues :([16:56:32] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[17:03:25] *** Afan has joined #haiku[17:13:32] <mmu_man> KapiX: actually on nightlies there is a way to get some rolling upgrades, but not from alpha4, and it sometimes breaks[17:13:55] <KapiX> but it is unsupported AFAIR ;)[17:20:23] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[17:23:14] <mmu_man> well nightlies are unsupported, so...[17:23:56] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[17:24:53] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[17:28:43] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:31:09] *** poxip has quit IRC[17:32:19] *** e1z0_ has quit IRC[17:33:17] *** PaulHarrisJr____ has joined #haiku[17:35:28] *** poxip has joined #haiku[17:35:53] *** epigraph has quit IRC[17:36:03] *** stargate1 has joined #haiku[17:40:29] *** orealis has quit IRC[17:42:02] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[17:42:05] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar 02164b7 - binutils_bootstrap: Fetch tarball[17:44:45] *** nathanhi- has quit IRC[17:44:45] *** nathanhi- has joined #haiku[17:44:46] *** nathanhi- is now known as nathanhi[17:48:44] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[17:52:21] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[17:54:38] *** e1z0 has joined #haiku[17:57:20] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:00:38] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[18:00:40] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar f9fa502 - Oops, forgot to adjust SOURCE_DIR[18:03:53] <irker-974> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev47080 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=48058f7+%5Ed71e18f[18:03:54] <irker-974> 48058f7: Media_server: use find_paths_etc.[18:04:08] *** stippi1 has joined #haiku[18:04:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[18:04:56] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:08:56] *** dcase has joined #haiku[18:10:00] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[18:10:03] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar f02c623 - autoconf_bootstrap: Add checksums[18:10:50] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[18:11:15] *** HaikuUser has left #haiku[18:13:03] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[18:13:08] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar fdf5d15 - automake_bootstrap: Add checksums[18:13:36] *** kkux has joined #haiku[18:15:27] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[18:16:27] <bbjimmy> http://bb.haikuports.org/haikuports/pull-request/157/clean-up-digiclock-and-yab-recipes[18:23:08] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[18:26:19] *** Barrett has quit IRC[18:33:18] *** stippi1 has quit IRC[18:35:05] *** jjido2 has joined #haiku[18:38:17] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[18:40:59] *** jjido2 has quit IRC[18:48:59] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[18:55:56] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[19:14:41] *** stargate1 has quit IRC[19:16:09] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:20:49] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[19:22:31] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:34:11] <bbjimmy> PulkoMandy what does it take to get yab and yab-IDE into HaikuDepot ?[19:34:33] <PulkoMandy> some dev with commit access to build and upload the packages[19:35:43] <Skipp_OSX> stippi is working on downloading packages from a web source instead correct?[19:35:45] <bbjimmy> I have a pull request to change the repository to the haikuarchives one.[19:36:35] <bbjimmy> change the source url that is.[19:37:25] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: not that I know of[19:37:41] <PulkoMandy> that doesn't make sense, the repo is already hosted on http[19:38:01] <PulkoMandy> what stippi works on is downloading metadata (icons, screenshots, rating) from the haikudepot website[19:38:39] <Skipp_OSX> okay I see, I was hoping that it would lead to packages being independent from having to commit[19:38:47] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[19:38:51] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli 1e90f54 - curl: recipe for version 7.36.0[19:39:40] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: nothing prevents other people from setting up their own repos[19:39:48] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[19:39:58] <PulkoMandy> but looks like no one is interested in that when there is hosting to pay for...[19:40:08] <puckipedia> :)[19:40:16] <Skipp_OSX> well, I don't want a different repo, just that you don't need to commit to get into the Haiku repo[19:40:33] <bbjimmy> I have a host, but it is too dificult to set-up.[19:40:37] <Skipp_OSX> there would still be a barrier, you'd need to have access to the web host, just wouldn't have to commit[19:40:47] <puckipedia> There were plans to make an automatic haikuporter-repo[19:41:01] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: you don't have to, actually, the uploading of packages is using scp[19:41:14] <PulkoMandy> only upgrading the nightlies so they know about the new repo needs commit access[19:41:31] <PulkoMandy> but if you use the "current" repo, you can get the packages there, I think[19:41:41] <PulkoMandy> but anyway, yes[19:41:58] <PulkoMandy> even the haikuports people aren't interested in this when there is hosting to pay for[19:42:08] <puckipedia> Can't you host it on Github Pages?[19:42:09] <PulkoMandy> so for now only the haiku project has a repo...[19:42:25] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: as long as you can serve things over http, should work[19:42:34] <puckipedia> Well then[19:42:55] <Skipp_OSX> how could we skip the step of upgrading the nightlies to know about the new repo?[19:42:58] <puckipedia> Where is the format described?[19:43:20] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: we can't - but the alphas will point to the "current" repo so users can easily update[19:43:33] <PulkoMandy> (or actually, there will be an "alpha5" repo)[19:43:37] <Skipp_OSX> I see...[19:44:06] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: somewhere on dev.haiku-os.org, there is an haiku_repo tool in haiku to build a repo[19:44:11] <Skipp_OSX> why can't we point the nightlies to the "current" repo now?[19:44:52] <PulkoMandy> we want to use the nightlies for binary searching/regression testing[19:45:07] <PulkoMandy> and this includes some important packages that we don't want to be updated[19:45:10] <Skipp_OSX> right that would ruin that ability[19:45:35] <PulkoMandy> you can point to current manually after installing[19:45:45] <PulkoMandy> maybe HaikuDepot should make this easier to configure[19:45:55] <puckipedia> well, can't find anyting about haiku_repo[19:46:16] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[19:47:02] <bbjimmy> package_repo[19:47:06] <puckipedia> I did find http://haikurepo.com/, which contains 4 apps: apache+php+MySQL, Qupzilla, Rondel, and VLC, while all not working[19:47:40] <puckipedia> ah, thanks[19:49:01] <bbjimmy> can somebody take a look? http://bb.haikuports.org/haikuports/pull-request/157/clean-up-digiclock-and-yab-recipes[19:49:17] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:50:12] <puckipedia> is the chmod a+x neede?[19:50:13] <puckipedia> d[19:50:36] <puckipedia> oh, nvm[19:51:17] <bbjimmy> when the files moved to haikuarchives, the execute bit was reset, and yes they need to be ececutable for the recipe to work.[19:51:56] <puckipedia> well, fix it in the repo[19:52:20] <bbjimmy> I don't have access[19:52:29] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:52:37] <puckipedia> Well, fix it in your fork and pr it[19:52:49] <bbjimmy> I did.[19:53:08] <bbjimmy> it resets with the pr[19:53:12] <puckipedia> wtf[19:53:21] <bbjimmy> IDK[19:54:30] <bbjimmy> too many gate keepers[19:55:00] <puckipedia> ask waddlesplash, or something[19:56:27] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[19:58:40] <bbjimmy> I don't think github will allow changing the execute bit[19:59:21] *** luroh has joined #haiku[19:59:34] <puckipedia> It's just Git[20:00:17] <puckipedia> I have seen files with the +x bit[20:00:19] <bbjimmy> If I have to wait for him, it will take another week or two.[20:01:17] <bbjimmy> in my repo they are executable, but when he merged the repos, the exe bit was reset.[20:01:54] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[20:06:05] <bbjimmy> ok, I'm opening an issue on the yab repo re the exe bit. I will change the recipe to match.[20:09:25] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[20:09:28] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli d3dea6d - Promote version upgrades for x86_gcc2.[20:10:45] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[20:14:01] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[20:14:03] <Premislaus> hello[20:14:45] <bbjimmy> This will mean that the yab recipe changes will need to wait for the haikuarchives repoo to be updaed, and the recipes will need to then be updated so that the change hash matches.[20:15:39] <bbjimmy> another two to three weeks waiting for the gatekeepers.[20:26:45] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[20:30:56] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:39:06] <Skipp_OSX> sigh... nasm: fatal: unrecognised output format `elf32' - use -hf for a list[20:39:27] *** vishu has joined #haiku[20:39:32] <vishu> Hi[20:39:50] <Skipp_OSX> and then using nasm -hf I get "elf" as a choice, but not elf32[20:39:58] <puckipedia> well, elf it probably is[20:44:08] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[20:44:51] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[20:46:50] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[20:47:13] <jjido_> man pages are not displaying correctly, is it a terminal configuration issue?[20:47:40] <puckipedia> Yep[20:47:45] <puckipedia> It's been fixed really recently[20:48:00] <jjido_> I see ESC[4m[20:48:02] <jjido_> Ah[20:48:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[20:48:20] *** jua_ has quit IRC[20:48:23] <Skipp_OSX> anybody here on linux?[20:48:30] <puckipedia> Yeah, why?[20:48:48] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, can you run nasm -hf and see if "elf" is listed as a choice?[20:49:00] <puckipedia> 1 sec, downloading nasm[20:49:04] <Skipp_OSX> k thanks[20:49:26] <puckipedia> elf is short for ELF32[20:49:34] <puckipedia> x86_64 arch, btw[20:49:42] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, that's what I assumed[20:49:46] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, just wanted to make sure[20:50:01] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, I assume elf32 is also a choice[20:50:09] <puckipedia> yep, ofc[20:50:15] *** qNemo is now known as qptain_Nemo[20:50:36] *** vishu__ has joined #haiku[20:50:55] <jjido_> Can I fix it with an env var[20:50:58] <Skipp_OSX> okay thanks, looks like MainBuildRules needs to be fixed[20:51:05] <puckipedia> jjido_, maybe[20:51:10] <puckipedia> upgrading *should* work[20:51:22] <Skipp_OSX> wait, don't update[20:53:53] <puckipedia> why?[20:54:08] <Skipp_OSX> nm, I can't find the commit that fixed it.[20:54:13] <Skipp_OSX> I think it's a simple fix though[20:54:28] <puckipedia> PAGER iirc[20:55:36] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[20:55:40] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[21:00:05] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[21:00:57] *** vishu__ has quit IRC[21:01:07] *** vishu has quit IRC[21:03:46] <Skipp_OSX> if it's pager you could issue "export PAGER=less" or some such to change your pager[21:04:07] <Skipp_OSX> but, I'm assuming less is already the default pager and the problem is something else[21:04:13] *** stippi has joined #haiku[21:04:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[21:04:47] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[21:05:41] <puckipedia> http://bb.haikuports.org/haikuports/commits/d70750f22daf838fbad5e71cd057221580a46f3b[21:05:52] <puckipedia> DEFAULTLESSOPT="-isR" insted of DEFAULTLESSOPT="-is"[21:05:56] <Skipp_OSX> I like to set my PAGER to "vim -R -" because then I get better syntax highlighting and tab width is 4 spaces[21:06:17] <Skipp_OSX> there you go, that sounds like it.[21:08:26] <Skipp_OSX> error: short jump is out of range[21:08:54] <Skipp_OSX> same error on line 226[21:09:07] <Skipp_OSX> and the code on that line is `jng ENDLOOP2`[21:09:09] <puckipedia> where?[21:09:28] <Skipp_OSX> src/add-ons/media/plugins/ffmpeg/yuvrgb_sse.nasm:166[21:10:05] <puckipedia> I know nothing about asm, btw[21:10:23] <Skipp_OSX> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12136480/short-jump-out-of-range <=[21:11:18] <puckipedia> Sounds like more than 127 bytes?[21:11:36] <puckipedia> (relative jump, 1 signed byte, -128 through 127)[21:11:36] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, I think that's the problem[21:12:33] <puckipedia> jng | Jump if Not greater | Signed[21:12:52] <Skipp_OSX> this is out of my depth to fix...[21:13:14] <puckipedia> ehm[21:14:13] <Skipp_OSX> I mean, I could maybe replace the code with a long jump but why am I getting the error in the first place? that fix might be covering a bigger problem[21:14:20] <puckipedia> Which arch, btw?[21:14:41] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, well, the host is x86_64 and I'm cross compiling for x86[21:14:50] <puckipedia> so compiling for x86[21:14:58] <Skipp_OSX> I guess, I'm not 100% sure[21:15:12] <Skipp_OSX> but let's make that assumption[21:15:24] <puckipedia> It compiles to elf, right?[21:15:37] <Skipp_OSX> correct, elf is specified[21:15:46] <puckipedia> that's 32 bits[21:15:53] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[21:15:55] <Skipp_OSX> yes, elf meaning 32 bit elf[21:16:06] <puckipedia> "sub ecx, 1 ; apparently sub is better than dec" - x86 is full of surprises[21:17:30] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[21:21:02] <jjido_> Do I need to install nasm to compile Haiku on Haiku? How?[21:21:08] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[21:21:33] <puckipedia> jjido_, if you normally run linux, cross-compile[21:22:16] <puckipedia> we use yasm, but Skipp_OSX is probably looking for a way to get nasm working again[21:22:57] <Skipp_OSX> no, we recently switched from yasm back to nasm[21:23:05] <puckipedia> ah, we already did?[21:23:21] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, only now I can't build because I'm getting the above errors[21:23:22] <jjido_> Yasm is on the disk[21:23:40] <puckipedia> Skipp_OSX, which build arch?[21:23:55] <Skipp_OSX> I'm building from OS X[21:24:00] <puckipedia> x86_gcc2 + x86?[21:24:22] <Skipp_OSX> correct[21:24:58] <Skipp_OSX> I have "NASM version 0.98.40 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 11) compiled on Jan 15 2014" which I assume is the nasm that comes with OS X[21:25:32] <puckipedia> sounds like it[21:25:52] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:25:54] <Skipp_OSX> now I'm getting a different error: src/add-ons/media/plugins/ffmpeg/yuvrgb_sse2.nasm:340: error: parser: instruction expected[21:26:29] <puckipedia> There's an instruction there[21:26:35] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[21:27:03] <puckipedia> WTF: "The latest stable version of NASM is 2.11.02 (revision history)."[21:27:13] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, sure is, but maybe my CPU doesn't realize it has SSE2 or something...[21:27:15] <puckipedia> "The NASM 2 series supports x86-64, and is the production version of NASM since 2007. "[21:27:28] <Skipp_OSX> so, perhaps my nasm is old[21:27:36] <puckipedia> "C.2.34 Version 0.98.07 released 01/28/01"[21:27:41] <puckipedia> "C.2.34 Version 0.98.07 released 01/28/"[21:27:43] <puckipedia> welp[21:27:46] <puckipedia> "Added Stepane Denis' SSE2 instructions to a *working* version of the code"[21:27:53] <puckipedia> well, that is kinda old[21:28:34] <puckipedia> ohm[21:28:44] <puckipedia> 0.98.40 doesn't exist[21:28:51] <puckipedia> 0.98.39 is the newest[21:29:17] <Skipp_OSX> puckipedia, it might be a fork by Apple[21:29:52] <Skipp_OSX> okay, I updated to NASM version 2.11 and I have elf32 as an option now[21:30:06] <puckipedia> Try compiling again?[21:30:40] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, I bet it will work now[21:31:16] <Skipp_OSX> nasm is listed as a build req in the ReadMe... but, hmmm[21:31:23] <puckipedia> which version?[21:31:36] <Skipp_OSX> it doesn't list a version[21:31:52] <puckipedia> 2 might be good to assume[21:32:13] <puckipedia> At least it is better than 0.98.40![21:32:38] <Skipp_OSX> hehe, well, I didn't install it, it came with my system[21:33:35] <puckipedia> Anyways, would it be best to make nasm 2 a hard dependency: It came out in 2007![21:33:44] <puckipedia> I run 2.11.01[21:34:02] <Skipp_OSX> yes, most likely that would be the best course of action[21:35:02] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[21:35:15] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[21:35:16] <Skipp_OSX> The only problem is that you'll potentially break software that depends on nasm 0.98.40[21:35:19] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar b717545 - haikuporter: Fetch tarball[21:35:21] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar ea8a3f1 - bison_bootstrap: Add checksums[21:35:25] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar 893ded3 - flex_bootstrap: Add checksums[21:35:27] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar 54ed3a8 - icu_bootstrap: Add checksums[21:35:33] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[21:36:09] <puckipedia> Is there any .asm that doesn't run on 2 but does on 0.98.40?[21:36:23] <Skipp_OSX> hard to say[21:39:09] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[21:39:13] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] Midar c452910 - gcc_bootstrap: Match gcc recipe[21:41:13] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: I'm messing with flac and they have ifdefs for this[21:41:25] <PulkoMandy> (not on opcodes, but on directives)[21:41:34] <puckipedia> building on 0.98.40?[21:41:43] <PulkoMandy> fails to build on 2[21:41:50] <PulkoMandy> (we have that on haiku)[21:42:11] <PulkoMandy> they have macros with ifdefs to compile on both, but it seems the version for nasm 2 doesn't do the right thing...[21:45:01] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[21:46:13] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[21:46:44] *** dcase has quit IRC[21:47:40] *** stargate1 has joined #haiku[21:48:43] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[21:49:25] <Skipp_OSX> hmmm, nasm 2 works on OS X though[21:51:08] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[21:51:49] <puckipedia> Well, it is nasm 2[21:54:20] <Skipp_OSX> but PulkoMandy just said it fails to build with nasm 2 on Haiku above right?[21:54:39] <puckipedia> That's flac[21:55:16] <Skipp_OSX> oh, flac...[21:55:20] <Skipp_OSX> idk about flac[21:55:37] <PulkoMandy> yes, hit that with haikuporter[21:55:46] <Skipp_OSX> I thought he meant that flac had ifdefs that would enable nasm to work[21:55:50] <PulkoMandy> afaik haiku builds and everything else I tried builds[21:55:52] <puckipedia> well, still doesn't work[21:57:18] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:03:32] *** e1z0 has quit IRC[22:03:32] *** e1z0 has joined #haiku[22:03:35] *** stippi has quit IRC[22:14:19] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[22:16:43] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[22:22:40] <irker-974> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev47081 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=18027ff+%5E48058f7[22:22:40] <irker-974> 18027ff: Whitespace style fixes only in StorageDefs.h[22:25:26] <jjido_> Just dropping the FreeBSD iwn sources in iprowifi4965/dev does *not* compile. Meh.[22:25:43] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:26:29] *** useragent has joined #haiku[22:26:36] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[22:26:37] *** kkux has quit IRC[22:27:24] *** kkux has joined #haiku[22:36:15] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[22:40:32] *** poxip has quit IRC[22:40:52] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:41:44] *** stargate1 has quit IRC[22:42:02] <puckipedia> Hmm, quick question: How much of you use Intel x86_64 processors, how much of you use AMD x86_64 processors?[22:42:22] <mmadia> *amd[22:42:35] <mmadia> ... for this Haiku box at least.[22:43:13] <puckipedia> I'm thinking of implementing VT-x (VMX) for Haiku, and I am debating wether to find a cheap AMD board which supports smx[22:43:32] <Skipp_OSX> I have a Haiku box at home with a VIA processor, other than that I use vmware[22:45:36] <gordonjcp> I dual-boot this Core 2 machine with Haiku and Linux[22:45:55] <PulkoMandy> intel here[22:46:04] <gordonjcp> although - whisper it in dark places - I haven't booted Haiku at all for at least a week[22:48:05] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:48:26] * DaaT slaps Begasus[22:48:55] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:51:02] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[22:54:46] *** vooshy has quit IRC[22:56:42] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[23:00:03] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[23:00:47] <mmadia> In WonderBrush, how do i import an HVIF as a scalable vector? ... it's been a while.[23:07:14] <Skipp_OSX> mmadia, I'm guessing that opening the file normally doesn't work then[23:07:50] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[23:08:11] <PulkoMandy> I forgot the trick again[23:08:12] <mmadia> it opens as a Bitmap.[23:08:35] <PulkoMandy> export as SVG from Icon O Matic?[23:08:53] <mmadia> using Icon-o-Matic to export it as an SVG, worked. but i could've sworn WonderBrush was able to open HVIF directly.[23:09:14] <mmadia> or a copy/paste from I-o-M into WonderBrush.[23:10:53] <mmadia> in any case: https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2014-03-31_miracles_do_happen_development_contract_april w00t![23:11:43] <puckipedia> Luckily you didn't post it tomorrow[23:12:22] <puckipedia> April's fools and everything[23:12:23] <mmadia> ... that's when i announce HaikuTouch.[23:12:32] <puckipedia> lol[23:13:14] <puckipedia> I mean, having half-touch support (multiple mouse cursors? three fingers to move a window) would be really nice to have[23:13:22] <puckipedia> (I have a touchscreen on my laptop)[23:13:41] <Skipp_OSX> natually as Microsoft purchased Haiku to replace the ailing Windows 8 on tablets[23:14:06] <puckipedia> 'Haiku, Inc.' You mean?[23:14:12] <PulkoMandy> mh... I think Haiku purchased Microsoft with all the donations[23:14:59] <puckipedia> Well, I think Google might be better[23:15:09] <PulkoMandy> didn't we do that last year?[23:15:31] *** jjido2 has joined #haiku[23:15:49] <PulkoMandy> also, let's buy Occulus Rift back from Facebook[23:16:50] <puckipedia> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-selfhosting[23:16:52] <DaaT> let's![23:16:58] <puckipedia> oops[23:17:13] <puckipedia> That's not a good day to announce Haiku being self-hosting[23:17:26] <mmadia> puckipedia : https://web.archive.org/web/20081119135522/http://haikunews.org/1184[23:17:55] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[23:18:05] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: mh... extra motivation to get html5 audio/video working tomorrow :D[23:18:36] <puckipedia> PulkoMandy, Can you rig WebPositive so every youtube video on aprils[23:18:42] <puckipedia> april's fools gets linked to rickroll?[23:21:27] <puckipedia> Well, let's build @nightly-raw x86_64 and run it in bochs, see what performance it gets[23:22:55] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[23:24:58] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:29:19] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy, is there code to validate a domain name?[23:29:31] <PulkoMandy> nothing very solid yet[23:29:35] <Skipp_OSX> okay[23:29:43] <PulkoMandy> there is a "smart URL parser" in Web+ that doesn't really work well[23:29:50] <puckipedia> Does it do punycode?[23:30:04] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: ye[23:30:12] <Skipp_OSX> some joker tried to do URL validation in Time prefs for the NTP server and I don't think it works.[23:30:22] <puckipedia> That's horrible[23:30:29] <PulkoMandy> we miss translating punycode back for display[23:30:57] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: well, just giving the string to BUrl will do regex based parsing[23:31:15] <puckipedia> PulkoMandy, kinda hard[23:31:17] <PulkoMandy> that's no a complete validation, but would be a good start[23:31:29] <puckipedia> due to scam domains[23:31:33] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: punycode is designed for that[23:31:41] <PulkoMandy> and WebKit already has the code[23:31:47] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy, BUrl is in which kit? Is it private?[23:31:52] <puckipedia> To locale-based decoding punycode[23:31:54] <puckipedia> ?[23:31:56] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: network[23:32:08] <PulkoMandy> there's another one in private or support, but it should be dropped[23:32:26] <Skipp_OSX> okay...[23:32:26] <PulkoMandy> puckipedia: why locale based? it's just another unicode encoding[23:32:29] <puckipedia> Well[23:32:46] <puckipedia> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEyLzEyLzA2LzY3L3NjYXJ5dXJsdGV4LjR6OC5wbmcKcAl0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/574283b0/0ae/scary-url-text.png[23:33:41] <PulkoMandy> this is a problem for DNS registrars to handle[23:34:13] <puckipedia> Chrome and Firefox only not use the punycode if all chars fall within ascii or the local alphabet[23:34:51] *** jjido2 has quit IRC[23:34:55] <PulkoMandy> well anyway, currently we go the safe way and show the punycode in URL bar[23:35:03] <hamishm__> that's not URL validation in the time preflet[23:35:07] <hamishm__> it's hostname validation[23:35:10] <PulkoMandy> not so friendly for people who actually use those domains, however[23:35:33] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[23:35:45] <puckipedia> ARGH[23:36:01] <puckipedia> the haiku-nightly image has 449 sectors (512 bytes per sector?) which is a prime[23:36:50] <puckipedia> Anyone here run Haiku in bochs?[23:37:07] <PulkoMandy> just add extra sectors at the end?[23:37:10] <puckipedia> idk[23:37:18] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[23:37:19] <PulkoMandy> 450 = 10 * 5 * 9 ?[23:38:04] <puckipedia> I just used 449 cylinders, 1 head, 1 sector per track[23:38:05] <puckipedia> lol[23:38:13] <puckipedia> nvm, doesn't boot?[23:38:14] <PulkoMandy> works as well :)[23:39:41] <puckipedia> Actually: "read_virtual_dword_32(): segment limit violation"[23:39:44] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[23:39:56] <puckipedia> Don't think it will boot soon...[23:40:08] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[23:41:11] <Skipp_OSX> hmmm, it seems that Haiku-Depot uses both versions of BUrl[23:41:23] <PulkoMandy> fun![23:41:28] *** arselinux has joined #haiku[23:41:58] <puckipedia> aah[23:42:05] <puckipedia> bochs has the best vmx simulation[23:42:19] <puckipedia> IT DOESN'T BOOT HAIKU[23:42:33] <puckipedia> Great: It also has smv simulation, no AMD board needed![23:42:39] <puckipedia> Anyways, off to bed[23:43:12] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[23:45:20] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[23:46:11] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:46:49] *** axeld has quit IRC[23:48:13] *** Begasus has quit IRC[23:50:52] *** Cenbe has joined #haiku[23:53:24] *** arselinux has quit IRC[23:54:12] <Skipp_OSX> LOL okay, IsValid() always returns false[23:57:07] *** oco2 has quit IRC[23:57:08] <Skipp_OSX> I should say Burl::IsValid()[23:59:02] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:59:17] *** arselinux has joined #haiku