August 20, 2012 
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August 20, 2012 [00:07:33] *** iMe has joined #haiku[00:08:48] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[00:09:31] *** hamishm has quit IRC[00:09:32] <iMe> hi all, I just installed latest nightly gcc2 hybrid, and the wifi doesn't seems to work anymore….. I havn't upgraded my installation in 6 months, but it worked earlier. No it only finds a network called Villa Boo Network Extender, which is not even there. I have tried with ifconfig …. and edited wireless_networks and interfaces, but nothing works. It's a wpa2 personal network that I am trying to connect to. Any idea?[00:11:05] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[00:11:06] <diver> iMe have you tried running install-wifi-firemare script?[00:11:20] <diver> pastebin you output of ifconfig[00:12:20] <iMe> hi, I have not ran the script, I have an atheros chip, that is not affected by this is it?[00:14:47] <diver> can't tell off hand[00:15:18] <diver> also pastebin your syslog[00:15:35] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:15:39] <iMe> no network on the machine, so no pastebin… but it just tells the mac address, my static IP and on transmit is 1 packet, 4 errors, 42 bytes...[00:16:00] <iMe> on device /dev/net/atheroswifi/0[00:16:32] <diver> grep atheroswifi /var/log/syslog[00:16:46] <diver> maybe it's missing its' firmware[00:17:01] <iMe> i'll try with the script[00:17:54] <augiedoggie> you need a network connection for the script to work[00:19:51] <iMe> hmmm[00:20:08] <iMe> it still lokks that it's only for marvel and broadcom[00:20:15] <iMe> looks I mean[00:20:28] <jessicah> yeah, i have atheros chipset at home. doesn't need firmware[00:20:41] <iMe> it worked on earlier release of haiku.[00:21:22] <iMe> now I can't even see the networks, but it lists the "Villa Boo Network Extender" network in it's list, and doesn't even exist.[00:21:28] <jessicah> i have about a week old build on my machine at home; atheros wifi works fine on that[00:21:52] <iMe> ok, I'll download that one and try. Do you use gcc2 hybrid?[00:22:08] <jessicah> did manage to break the networking when I edited the network config files manually though[00:22:18] <jessicah> i found deleting them fixed the issues for me[00:22:24] <jessicah> yup[00:22:43] <iMe> thnx[00:27:02] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[01:01:52] <iMe> same prob with a week old build, anyone tried wifi on a very recent build of gcc2 hybrid?[01:04:24] <luroh> not exactly, but fwiw, i tried a pure gcc2 build yesterday and wpa worked fine with my intel4965[01:06:25] *** kcj has joined #haiku[01:07:42] <iMe> ok, i'll try.. thnx[01:19:19] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:20:57] *** iMe has quit IRC[01:27:00] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:28:53] *** stpere has joined #haiku[01:36:22] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[01:47:02] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:47:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:55:49] *** duvjones has quit IRC[02:03:44] *** rdmr has quit IRC[02:15:25] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[02:19:48] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[02:28:45] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[02:30:07] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[02:38:15] *** cherrypai is now known as cherrypie[02:55:51] *** stpere has quit IRC[02:56:33] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[03:08:55] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:15:42] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:16:09] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:17:08] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:33:04] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[03:40:22] *** ismd has quit IRC[03:40:36] *** ismd has joined #haiku[03:42:38] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[04:01:39] *** tn_ has joined #haiku[04:03:52] *** tn_ has left #haiku[04:08:09] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:38:55] *** ity has joined #haiku[04:39:53] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[04:42:41] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[04:42:41] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[04:56:03] *** Luigi021 has joined #haiku[04:59:39] *** Luigi021 has quit IRC[05:02:06] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[05:05:37] *** ity has quit IRC[05:07:38] *** ity has joined #haiku[05:14:30] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[05:19:07] *** Luigi021 has joined #haiku[05:21:35] *** ity has quit IRC[05:29:45] <helf> hi[05:30:45] *** ity has joined #haiku[05:35:52] <jstressman> evening helf :)[05:37:49] *** hamishm has quit IRC[05:39:01] <dreamed> hey helf[05:42:14] <helf> sup dreamed[05:44:07] <dreamed> house hunting[05:44:09] <dreamed> (sucks)[05:44:16] <dreamed> also learned something fun about AIX's inittab today[05:44:23] <dreamed> that may or may not have taken down a tsm instance >_>[05:44:27] <dreamed> I couldn't really say[05:46:34] <helf> haha[05:46:36] <helf> nice[05:46:45] <helf> I've never had the displeasure of using aix[05:47:36] <dreamed> aix monitors the /etc/inittab every 60 seconds[05:47:50] <dreamed> and if you comment something in it out, that's launched more than once .. it notices you don't want it running....[05:48:06] <helf> LOL[05:48:10] <helf> im not sure that is a feature[05:48:21] <dreamed> it's certainly a mindfuck for most of us[05:48:50] <dreamed> I think the idea is that it's supposed to make sure everything that should be running *is* running[05:48:53] <dreamed> and if not, start it[05:49:01] <dreamed> aix does all sorts of things that are "intelligent"[05:49:07] <dreamed> in a way that tends to confuse[05:49:16] <dreamed> it's the only unix I'm aware of with something similar to a windows registry[05:49:27] <helf> yeah, i knew about that little bit[05:49:39] <helf> aix seems to be pretty stable tho. is that your experience with it?[05:50:15] *** DocPheniX has quit IRC[05:50:34] *** DocPheniX has joined #haiku[05:51:40] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[05:58:15] <dreamed> aix seems quite nice imo[05:58:19] *** slubman has quit IRC[05:58:21] <dreamed> the only real oddity is the hardware[06:00:53] *** slubman has joined #haiku[06:08:02] <helf> what all does it run on? as/400s?[06:08:22] <dreamed> we're using Power hardware[06:08:33] <dreamed> P7 I think, can't remember. It's either P6 or P7[06:08:42] <helf> ah ok[06:08:54] <helf> POWER is pretty cool, really.[06:11:09] <dreamed> it's cool, but it's a pain in some respects - i.e. to lab AIX, you need Power hardware[06:11:28] <dreamed> plus side, you can pronounce it "power aches"[06:11:42] <helf> ha[06:11:57] <helf> the best kind of aches[06:15:47] <dreamed> so tired[06:15:54] <dreamed> played so much rock band yesterday / last night[06:15:57] <dreamed> so sore (drumming)[06:15:58] <helf> lol[06:16:07] <helf> go listen to some korpiklaani[06:16:09] <dreamed> I'm getting a lot better though.[06:16:10] <helf> they will pick you up[06:16:29] <dreamed> I think more sleep is probably optimal[06:16:32] <helf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ&feature=fvwrel[06:16:34] <helf> pff[06:16:36] <helf> sleep[06:16:54] <dreamed> can't watch stuff here[06:17:03] <helf> at work?[06:17:20] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:18:39] <dreamed> ya[06:19:39] <dreamed> heh you can tell you're tired when you yawn and the muscles in your neck cramp[06:24:10] <helf> ugh, i HATE that[06:31:30] *** stargater has joined #haiku[06:31:40] <stargater> moin[06:35:20] *** ity has quit IRC[06:46:45] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:49:27] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[07:01:23] *** Luigi021 has quit IRC[07:06:46] <jstressman> moin[07:14:17] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[07:17:04] <stargater> jstressman: have you iphone or android ?[07:17:42] <jstressman> sorry, no. :([07:17:50] <stargater> ok[07:20:07] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[07:21:57] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[07:24:02] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[07:30:11] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[07:30:41] <jessicah> mew[07:31:19] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:31:19] <stargater> mew?[07:32:47] <jessicah> hey stargater[07:32:57] <stargater> hi jessicah[07:33:25] <stargater> jessicah: have you a adndroid?[07:33:30] <jessicah> no[07:33:32] <stargater> ok[07:35:20] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[07:36:15] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:41:01] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:43:12] *** stargater has quit IRC[07:43:45] *** Spelln has quit IRC[07:44:39] *** Spelln has joined #haiku[07:51:46] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[08:06:53] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[08:07:12] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[08:10:23] <Wizard> Good morning.[08:16:20] <arfonzo> morning friends.[08:21:03] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:27:30] <ktx> is emacs available for Haiku?[08:28:07] <augiedoggie> sort of, it's available to me :P[08:29:28] <ktx> oh, i see... are you perhaps interested in sharing?[08:30:08] <augiedoggie> eh, it requires some manual steps to get running[08:30:23] <augiedoggie> and the dumper hasn't been ported, so it's slow to start up[08:31:08] <augiedoggie> and Terminal (usually) doesn't support meta keys, so you have to use escape+key instead[08:31:18] <ktx> i see[08:31:40] <OmniMancer> because alt is the shortcut key in haiku?[08:31:49] <augiedoggie> yes[08:32:39] <augiedoggie> if you really really want it, then I'll boot the VM and zip it up[08:33:30] *** rimio has joined #haiku[08:33:33] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[08:33:33] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[08:33:33] *** rajaniemi.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[08:33:36] <Premislaus> hi[08:35:17] <ktx> augiedoggie: I really appreciate the offer, but if it isn't very baked yet then realistically I would probably not get a whole lot of use out of it, so it wouldn't be worth your time.[08:35:24] <ktx> augiedoggie: are you working on trying to port it?[08:36:15] <augiedoggie> not really[08:36:33] <augiedoggie> it's on my todo list to update it and add it to the ports repo[08:36:57] <augiedoggie> I usually use jed on Haiku[08:37:02] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:37:42] <ktx> oh ok[08:38:21] *** [r4] has quit IRC[08:51:34] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[08:58:32] *** dsjonny has joined #haiku[09:06:51] *** pseudomind has quit IRC[09:08:32] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:08:51] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[09:12:12] <arfonzo> morning all. Does someone still maintain and administer haikuware.com? Spammers are posting on the forums.[09:12:58] <augiedoggie> it usually takes karl a few days to notice and remove them[09:15:22] <arfonzo> ok[09:17:12] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:25:11] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:25:30] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[09:30:04] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[09:33:44] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has joined #haiku[09:34:18] *** dsjonny has left #haiku[09:39:18] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[09:40:21] *** Postumus has quit IRC[09:40:46] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[09:42:53] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:42:53] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[09:52:57] *** Sikosis-Post-HDU is now known as Sikosis[09:53:01] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[09:53:14] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:53:14] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[09:59:49] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[10:03:09] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[10:03:09] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[10:06:16] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[10:09:37] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[10:13:17] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[10:13:17] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[10:21:31] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[10:21:32] *** rajaniemi.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[10:32:00] *** Luko has joined #haiku[10:33:47] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.[10:33:54] <Wizard> Good morning![10:34:17] <johnny_b> morning[10:35:25] <brobostigon> morning Wizard and johnny_b[10:36:51] <Luko> hi[10:37:05] <Luko> good morning[10:37:21] <brobostigon> morning Luko[10:37:37] <Luko> is here someone who use Haiku as second OS ?[10:37:47] <Luko> on real hardware?[10:40:36] <Luko> ok i go away, for buy something for eat.. bye[10:40:55] <johnny_b> cya[10:41:01] *** Luko has quit IRC[10:41:27] <dreamed> 'lo[10:43:38] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[10:43:57] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[10:46:17] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[10:46:17] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[10:52:18] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[10:52:37] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[11:19:29] <Wizard> Luko me.[11:19:34] 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JsobCloud has quit IRC[15:51:21] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[15:53:47] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[15:55:29] <nortti> eeh. should vim print out name collision error messages on startup?[15:58:03] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[15:58:15] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[15:58:15] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[16:01:21] <luroh> nortti: not a vim user but that doesn't sound right[16:02:05] <luroh> i take it you're on a recent nightly and have installoptionalpacke'd vim?[16:02:18] <luroh> package'd*[16:02:27] <nortti> I use alpha 3 and yes[16:03:22] *** ity has joined #haiku[16:03:23] <luroh> ok, since alpha3 is unmaintained, i'd give a nightly a go[16:03:38] <nortti> ok[16:03:45] <luroh> if problem still exists, please file a ticket if there isn't one already[16:04:13] <nortti> if I update to nightly will all the settings stay the same?[16:05:15] <luroh> there is no supported upgrade path, you'd have to do a fresh install to make sure any funkiness does not transfer[16:05:23] <nortti> :/[16:05:45] <luroh> it may work, but don't bet on it[16:06:54] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[16:13:23] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:13:42] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[16:18:29] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[16:19:28] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[16:21:53] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:21:53] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[16:22:09] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has quit IRC[16:24:13] *** ity has quit IRC[16:26:03] *** CIA-82 has quit IRC[16:27:29] *** CIA-58 has joined #haiku[16:29:48] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:30:07] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[16:33:23] *** leszek has joined #haiku[16:33:41] <leszek> hi[16:36:54] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[16:36:54] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[16:37:13] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:37:32] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[16:37:43] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[16:38:42] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[16:40:07] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[16:40:07] *** Spacewalker has joined 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If so, how well does it work?[18:26:05] *** ity has joined #haiku[18:26:55] *** ity_ has joined #haiku[18:27:38] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[18:30:16] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[18:30:35] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[18:30:45] *** ity has quit IRC[18:32:03] *** ity_ has quit IRC[18:32:13] *** Tekn0z has quit IRC[18:39:46] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:41:06] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[18:44:22] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[18:45:30] *** Sintendo has joined #haiku[18:47:33] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[18:47:33] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[18:48:29] <luroh> munchaus1n: thinkpad yes, x61 no[18:49:04] <luroh> i'd say they are generally well supported, provided you stay away from the optimus/nvidia models[18:54:33] <arfonzo> munchaus1n: yes, I have an x61t. Wifi works, it all seems to generally work[18:54:47] *** _Vampyre is now known as Vampyre[18:55:28] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[18:59:09] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[19:02:45] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[19:02:45] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[19:13:08] <munchaus1n> arfonzo - how about battery monitoring and frequency scaling?[19:14:02] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[19:19:36] <Skipp_OSX> hello[19:20:15] <Skipp_OSX> anybody home?[19:20:27] * Wizard is at home.[19:20:38] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[19:21:15] <Skipp_OSX> Commits don't seem to be updating on the website[19:21:35] <leszek> Skipp_OSX: maybe there is a delay[19:21:36] <Skipp_OSX> Updated: 1 day 18 hours ago[19:21:45] <augiedoggie> CIA has been having issues[19:21:46] <leszek> hmm... ok[19:21:56] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[19:21:58] <Wizard> :P[19:22:01] <Skipp_OSX> ahhh okay, CIA controls that[19:23:20] <leszek> xD[19:23:44] <Skipp_OSX> augiedoggie, what are the issues?[19:24:34] <augiedoggie> dunno, the bot has been in and out of irc, the webpage wasn't responding yesterday, .....[19:25:02] <Skipp_OSX> augiedoggie, well, the webpage was due to an AC outage at the host[19:25:20] <Skipp_OSX> but CIA is separate from that[19:25:31] <augiedoggie> I'm not talking about the haiku webpage[19:25:33] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[19:25:33] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[19:25:41] <Skipp_OSX> oh oaky[19:25:43] <augiedoggie> http://cia.vc is down[19:26:11] <Skipp_OSX> well I guess that explains it.[19:28:04] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[19:31:21] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[19:32:19] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[19:32:38] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[19:33:49] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[19:45:00] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[19:47:43] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[19:48:56] <Wizard> Are there any plans to implement adblock in WebPositive?[19:49:47] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[19:53:25] *** JsobCloud_ has quit IRC[19:53:25] *** JsobCloud is now known as JsobCloud_[19:55:32] *** markos__ has joined #haiku[19:55:50] *** markos__ has quit IRC[19:59:55] <Skipp_OSX> Wizard, no, no plans[20:00:01] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[20:00:52] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[20:01:27] <Wizard> And if somebody would want to implement such thing?[20:01:55] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[20:01:56] <Wizard> Would it be accepted, if its quality is fine?[20:03:26] <Skipp_OSX> yup, sure[20:03:45] <Skipp_OSX> It isn't planned but it would be a nice addition[20:03:46] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[20:04:08] <Wizard> Hmm..[20:04:19] <augiedoggie> the plan was for a more generic extension/addon mechanism[20:04:22] <Skipp_OSX> Web+ still needs a lot of work before it is ready for prime-time, so the more people working on it the better[20:04:27] <augiedoggie> not one that only handled ad blocking[20:04:40] <Wizard> Ah.[20:05:20] <Skipp_OSX> augiedoggie, first I've heard of it.[20:05:33] <augiedoggie> leavengood has mentioned it several times[20:06:05] <Skipp_OSX> ahhh okay[20:06:06] *** JsobCloud_ has quit IRC[20:06:24] <Skipp_OSX> Well, I wouldn't wait on that to happen though[20:06:25] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[20:06:28] <luroh> until such an extension framework is in place, porting something like Privoxy could perhaps get the job done as well[20:06:52] <luroh> (and work for more than one browser)[20:07:34] <augiedoggie> yeah, I don't think this framework is going to happen any time soon[20:07:51] <augiedoggie> more people are concerned with getting things like gmail and embedded video[20:08:06] <luroh> right[20:09:57] *** volci has quit IRC[20:10:21] *** volci has joined #haiku[20:12:57] <munchaus1n> autumn? Last I checked autumn starts in september[20:13:30] <munchaus1n> strange timing, blitzeds services were down most if last week too[20:13:35] <munchaus1n> *of[20:15:19] <munchaus1n> though that was because the last disk in a raid array went down and no one had noticed the others had gone, apparently[20:17:49] *** Luko has joined #haiku[20:17:55] <Luko> hi folks[20:17:57] <Skipp_OSX> the last disk or the last redundant disk?[20:18:14] <Luko> i order from one local shop when i live this USBH[20:18:17] <Luko> USB sound card[20:18:18] <Luko> http://www.bazos.sk/img/1/530/17354530.jpg[20:20:38] <Wizard> Skipp_OSX, Idea of privoxy porting is really good.[20:21:29] <Wizard> Hmm.[20:21:48] <Skipp_OSX> I've never heard of privoxy...[20:21:54] <Wizard> It would be nice to integrate privoxy into something like poorman.[20:22:17] <Skipp_OSX> according to wikipedia it runs on BeOS[20:25:01] <Wizard> Cool, so it would need some gui config tool for everyday use and that's it :)[20:28:34] <luroh> to get it running from a Terminal window would be a great as well[20:32:33] <luroh> actually, it looks like it comes with its own built-in web based config tool[20:32:37] <luroh> makes sense[20:32:58] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[20:32:59] *** rajaniemi.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[20:33:11] <luroh> i know i used Privoxy but it was so long ago that i have forgotten about it[20:33:22] <luroh> it's been around for a long time[20:33:31] *** volci is now known as Guest88728[20:34:54] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[20:35:16] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[20:38:44] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[20:39:01] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[20:39:03] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[20:54:17] *** PasNox has quit IRC[20:55:09] <Skipp_OSX> is privoxy relevant?[20:56:04] <Skipp_OSX> meaning does it do an effective job of filtering ads?[20:56:51] <luroh> yeah sure, it can do advanced filtering if needed[20:56:51] <farhaven> yes[20:57:12] <farhaven> and you can configure it so that it relays .onion and .exit domains over tor[20:57:20] <farhaven> and the rest of your traffic doesn't pollute the tor network[20:57:23] <farhaven> quite nifty imho[20:57:28] <luroh> i used it in addition to Tor and i2p[21:02:41] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[21:02:42] *** rajaniemi.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[21:07:14] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[21:07:32] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[21:08:12] *** bob_ok has joined #haiku[21:15:56] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[21:16:22] <jessicah> good morning[21:16:35] <nortti> good night[21:16:46] <nortti> (:P)[21:17:12] <jessicah> :)[21:20:34] <dreamed> morning[21:26:22] *** bob_ok has quit IRC[21:28:32] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:32:38] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[21:32:57] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[21:34:01] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[21:34:25] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[21:34:49] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[21:35:48] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:37:42] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:40:58] *** Luko has quit IRC[21:44:30] *** fhein has quit 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#haiku[23:17:35] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[23:17:48] <AutowiredConstru> hey haiku seems to be the new beos successor[23:17:59] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[23:17:59] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[23:18:03] <dreamed> new/old[23:18:04] <dreamed> heh[23:18:07] <dreamed> it's been around a while[23:25:23] <AutowiredConstru> yeah it's very weird source code[23:26:04] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[23:29:00] <mmadia> https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2012-08-20_two_contractors_each_two_months[23:30:22] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[23:35:23][23:35:35] <AutowiredConstru> in what world are you living in[23:36:54] <mmadia> no, €2000 EUR per month is the average cost that the developers request.[23:37:24] <mmadia> .... so it's even less than what you though :|[23:37:53] <AutowiredConstru> oO[23:38:06] <AutowiredConstru> nobody can live with that in germany[23:38:12] <AutowiredConstru> they must be from india[23:38:23] <mmadia> nope. both live in germany.[23:39:07] <mmadia> but at those prices, they can only afford to do contracts inbetween regular pay projects.[23:39:46] <mmadia> ... like some free-lance developers will try to schedule a contract inbetween their current job and their next one.[23:40:42] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[23:41:39] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[23:42:25] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[23:44:37] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[23:46:10] *** [r4] has quit IRC[23:47:23] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[23:47:35] *** TimKack has joined #haiku[23:51:35] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[23:55:20] *** JoySwe has joined #haiku[23:56:30] *** Megaf has quit IRC[23:57:11] <JoySwe> Hi. Is there a way in Haiku to correct the position of the screen. My TV do not allow me to move or alter the size off the picture.[23:57:32] <mmu_man> JoySwe: CRT ?[23:57:44] <JoySwe> LCD TV[23:57:50] <JoySwe> Full HD[23:58:05] <mmu_man> and you only have a portion of it in the center ?[23:58:18] <JoySwe> Yes[23:58:36] <mmu_man> that's cause you're using a lower resolution, and your TV doesn't scale the picture[23:58:50] <mmu_man> if you're lucky you can get the correct rez in the Screen prefs[23:58:58] *** TimKack has quit IRC[23:59:05] <mmu_man> leaf menu -> Preferences -> Screen[23:59:26] <mmu_man> if you don't have a large enough resolution, you're probably using VESA mode[23:59:33] <JoySwe> If i put the tv to Underscan i get the right hight and length but it is a inch to the left...[23:59:33] *** netstar has joined #haiku[23:59:41] <mmu_man> (putting the mouse over the screen should tell you which driver it uses[23:59:57] <mmu_man> are you using a VGA cable ?