August 10, 2012 
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August 10, 2012 [00:01:27] *** jjido has quit IRC[00:02:28] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[00:04:52] *** Luko has joined #haiku[00:08:04] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[00:16:25] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[00:24:04] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[00:25:58] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[00:26:33] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[00:27:02] *** petterhj__ has joined #haiku[00:27:05] <dreamed> so sunny outside today[00:27:10] <dreamed> weather forecast so crap for weekend[00:27:12] * dreamed grinds teeth[00:27:25] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[00:27:45] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[00:29:07] *** petterhj_ has quit IRC[00:29:20] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:31:29] *** Luko has quit IRC[00:37:07] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[00:39:23] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[00:39:46] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[00:44:50] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:47:08] *** PasNox has quit IRC[00:49:14] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 0e0d53c7995f23e83364ec628c9623041e2b22bc : nfs4: Fill struct stat st_blksize and st_blocks fields [4 commits][00:53:01] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[00:56:43] <CIA-63> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r2013 /haikuports/trunk/sci-libs/cln/ (. cln-1.3.2.bep patches/ patches/cln-1.3.2.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/2013 : Added cln .bep and .patch files from cipri, this fixes #600.[00:57:31] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[01:01:32] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[01:01:48] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:04:49] *** Cian has quit IRC[01:05:58] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[01:11:42] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[01:13:26] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:13:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:16:33] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[01:22:05] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[01:23:43] *** niag has quit IRC[01:35:06] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[01:39:38] *** oco has quit IRC[01:43:14] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[01:43:36] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:46:53] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[01:54:23] *** petterhj__ has quit IRC[01:56:16] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[02:00:21] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:13:25] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[02:18:54] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[02:20:33] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:33:04] *** nyl has quit IRC[02:39:28] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[02:41:04] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[02:43:03] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[02:43:36] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[02:48:16] *** Postumus has quit IRC[02:49:13] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * b1fd656d454ab89fbfdac09fda1b6aafd81bbe89 : nfs4: Fix server reboot recovery[03:01:07] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[03:01:32] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[03:01:53] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[03:03:00] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[03:04:22] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[03:04:59] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[03:13:24] <jessicah> dreamed: yeah, sunny here too. though now that had lunch, seems to be clouding over again :|[03:13:54] <jessicah> :o metservice page changed[03:15:12] <dreamed> it's still quite nice here ... yet freezing cold insde[03:16:12] <dreamed> weekend plans?[03:16:48] <jessicah> if i can get a lift to wanganui, club racing tomorrow[03:17:02] <jessicah> sunday, prolly church & a long ride[03:17:19] * dreamed nods[03:17:43] <jessicah> ooh, yes, i keep forgetting need to install haiku on my eeebox[03:17:59] <jessicah> it has a radeon_hd in it with hdmi[03:18:04] <jessicah> be interesting to see if it works[03:18:43] <jessicah> AMD has an opensource development team?[03:18:46] <jessicah> intriguing[03:19:38] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[03:24:59] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[03:26:55] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[03:30:15] *** ablyss has left #haiku[03:34:48] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[03:44:05] *** Postumus has quit IRC[03:44:18] <dreamed> gonna bid on a camera tonight[03:44:19] <dreamed> >_>[03:44:27] <dreamed> I can't get it out of my head.[03:44:36] <dreamed> so I have to give it a shot and succeed or fail, before I'll stop angsting[03:47:57] <jessicah> :p[03:49:12] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 7f504091ecf0cec2316b9c5fa079836d56130624 : nfs4: Fix directory cache revalidation when cache invalid[03:49:53] <dreamed> it's pretty >_>[03:50:07] *** stef has quit IRC[03:50:51] <dreamed> http://shoottokyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/LJ-51.jpg like that, sans lens[03:51:17] <dreamed> not to be confused with the 50 year old model behind it[03:51:31] <jessicah> :)[03:52:14] *** stef has joined #haiku[03:53:09] <dreamed> oh no, my bad[03:53:13] <dreamed> that's the modern film version in the background[03:53:19] <dreamed> hard to tell, sometimes[03:54:41] <dreamed> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leica_M3_mg_3848.jpg that's the 50..actually 62 year old one[03:55:31] <jessicah> they all look mostly the same[03:55:44] <dreamed> yep[03:56:33] <dreamed> they invented the 35mm format handheld camera[03:56:39] <dreamed> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Ur_Leica.jpg/739px-Ur_Leica.jpg that's the first one, bit different[03:56:46] <dreamed> the lenses from it are still usable on mine though[03:57:06] <dreamed> er possibly a model or two after that one[03:57:58] <dreamed> ah, the model from 1930 was the first[03:58:01] <dreamed> that I can use lenses from[03:59:47] <dreamed> screw this. hometime.[03:59:53] <dreamed> seeya ;)[04:05:36] <jessicah> :o[04:05:40] <jessicah> 1pm?[04:05:46] <jessicah> lucky you[04:05:51] <jessicah> see ya :)[04:08:32] *** wbsd has quit IRC[04:08:38] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[04:16:24] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[04:20:18] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[04:20:24] <dreamed> and home[04:20:30] <dreamed> I worked a lot of long days[04:20:37] <jessicah> aaaand still at work[04:21:03] *** mmadia has left #haiku[04:21:04] * dreamed lies down on comfy bed listening to the tuis outside[04:21:08] <dreamed> :P[04:21:20] <jessicah> awwww[04:22:36] *** wbsd has quit IRC[04:22:43] <dreamed> I wonder where the complaints department has gotten to[04:22:57] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[04:24:52] <jessicah> is that your cat's actual name?[04:25:08] <dreamed> Rufus[04:25:58] <jessicah> :)[04:26:58] <dreamed> ah[04:27:01] <dreamed> I hear some complaining now[04:30:40] <dreamed> he's taken to hanging out on the roof[04:30:43] <dreamed> apparently[04:39:00] *** Megaf has quit IRC[05:16:09] <CIA-63> haiku.master: stpere * hrev44507 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=741e524 :[05:16:09] <CIA-63> Tracker: Double-click management changes [2 commits][05:16:09] <CIA-63> Make the "second click of a double-click" detection waiting time async. In other words[05:16:10] <CIA-63> (hopefully clearer), when the TextWidget gets a click, it register itself, recording the time,[05:16:10] <CIA-63> and it will get the editing order later as a callback from PoseView when the delay without any[05:16:10] <CIA-63> further click expires.[05:16:11] <CIA-63> Fixes #8818 and maybe others.[05:16:45] <dreamed> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoodooyoudo/7750528488/in/set-72157627731302891/lightbox/[05:22:13] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[05:22:47] *** Gerynar has joined #haiku[05:23:23] <jessicah> this has to be the longest work day ever... it doesn't end[05:23:44] <dreamed> heh boss just told me off for not telling anyone I'd finished[05:23:47] <dreamed> I did though[05:23:48] <dreamed> just not him[05:23:55] <jessicah> :p[05:24:24] <dreamed> I probably should've stayed a bit longer[05:24:25] <dreamed> but eh[05:25:10] <jessicah> mrow[05:25:51] <jessicah> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoodooyoudo/7492403018/in/set-72157627731302891/lightbox/ < i like this pic[05:26:15] <dreamed> ya me too[05:26:19] <dreamed> that's using my fanciest lens[05:26:37] <dreamed> which is approximately five meellion times easier to focus than the one I just uploaded[05:26:48] <jessicah> :)[05:26:49] <dreamed> also much more modern lens design[05:27:32] <jessicah> boo, cat collar[05:27:57] <dreamed> he's funny about cat collars[05:27:59] <augiedoggie> you two need to take these discussions to a private chat[05:28:00] <dreamed> he really likes them[05:28:14] <dreamed> fair enough[05:28:27] <jessicah> :o[05:29:55] <jessicah> this has to be first channel ever that doesn't like offtopic discussions[05:30:08] <jessicah> (that i been in, anyways)[05:30:18] <augiedoggie> you need to get out more then[05:30:46] <augiedoggie> it's not just that it's offtopic, it's always *only* you two talking[05:30:58] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[05:31:04] <jessicah> not true[05:31:15] <jessicah> it's just more often since in same timezone[05:31:25] <dreamed> I think that probably says something about how busy the channel is as well, but if you want me to not talk here then sure[05:34:11] <jessicah> wow, of all places to be hostile to having a social community[05:39:28] <stpere> ..? everything all right? :)[05:40:29] *** Gerynar has quit IRC[05:43:08] <jessicah> apparently not :p but it okies, i can be quiet to appease the ops[05:47:01] *** pseudomind has joined #haiku[05:58:14] *** bbjimmy-at-home has joined #haiku[06:00:12] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[06:00:13] *** bbjimmy-at-home is now known as bbjimmy[06:00:29] *** ksx4system has quit IRC[06:02:15] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[06:02:51] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[06:06:02] *** kcj has quit IRC[06:10:41] <CIA-63> haiku.master: stpere * hrev44508 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=4cf0af0 :[06:10:41] <CIA-63> Tracker: Additional cases to cancel double-click detection[06:10:41] <CIA-63> Don't wait for a potential second click (and then trigger Widget editing) when:[06:10:41] <CIA-63> 1. a click occurs on a different pose, on a 'pose-less' area or when right clicking[06:10:42] <CIA-63> 2. when you start dragging something.[06:15:12] *** stpere has quit IRC[06:15:49] *** ksx4system has joined #haiku[06:16:16] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[06:23:54] <CIA-63> haiku.master: nielx * hrev44509 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=44f900e : Update translations from Pootle[06:24:32] *** wbsd has quit IRC[06:42:45] *** rennj has quit IRC[06:45:35] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[06:46:36] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[06:50:45] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[06:52:38] *** ismd has quit IRC[06:53:02] *** ismd has joined #haiku[06:54:56] *** Disreali has quit IRC[06:55:25] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[06:57:09] *** kcj has joined #haiku[06:59:08] *** tic has quit IRC[07:07:14] <jessicah> dreamed: sorry, i didn't see[07:07:21] <jessicah> i tend to ignore window 1 in irssi :p[07:11:04] <dreamed> heh[07:12:18] <dreamed> try again?[07:12:29] <jessicah> i there already[07:12:44] <jessicah> unless i in wrong one[07:12:51] <jessicah> oh wrong server[07:12:57] <dreamed> heh[07:21:45] <jessicah> well, getting closer to vlc-2.0.3 compiling[07:22:04] <jessicah> a gcc4 only host seems to work better[07:25:30] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[07:32:16] *** rennj has joined #haiku[07:44:56] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[07:46:43] <pseudomind> man, I just realized vlc-2.0.3 is newer than what I am using on my MBP[07:46:56] <pseudomind> that would be absolutely awesome on haiku[07:46:59] <dreamed> tried movist on the mbp?[07:47:11] <pseudomind> I've never heard of it[07:47:23] <dreamed> it's like vlc before vlc used a library interface[07:47:31] <dreamed> works well[07:47:40] <pseudomind> ah... looking it up now[07:47:50] <jessicah> vlc has a library interface?[07:47:57] <dreamed> yep[07:48:00] <jessicah> pseudomind: 2.0.3 doesn't work properly yet[07:48:00] <dreamed> very itunes[07:48:08] <jessicah> and from what i heard, command line only[07:48:22] <jessicah> when did that start?[07:48:26] <pseudomind> well, still that would be awesome[07:48:30] <dreamed> 2.0 on the mac[07:48:31] <jessicah> i have 2.0.1 i think at home[07:48:39] <dreamed> fairly sure anyway[07:48:39] <jessicah> maybe it's a mac thing?[07:48:45] <dreamed> very possibly[07:48:59] <jessicah> pseudomind: is there stuff you have that mediaplayer doesn't play?[07:49:09] <jessicah> like streaming & dvd/bluray?[07:49:22] <jessicah> i like mediaplayer[07:49:42] <pseudomind> well[07:49:53] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[07:50:18] <pseudomind> I guess I haven't had a computer for a while that I could use haiku effectively on[07:50:28] <pseudomind> so I haven't gotten to play around with it too much lately[07:50:42] <pseudomind> it seems a bit silly to run it in an emulator and watch a video there[07:50:55] <jessicah> video plays fine on real hardware for me[07:50:59] <pseudomind> but unfortunately, my desktop has a usb wifi dongle[07:51:12] <pseudomind> which is currently unsupported by haiku, so I have no interwebs[07:51:20] <jessicah> oh :([07:51:31] <pseudomind> yeah, but even still I am excited[07:51:45] <pseudomind> I do remember getting to play with the media player and it was awesome[07:52:06] <pseudomind> however, I think having an up to date VLC available might help get new people onboard[07:52:22] <pseudomind> even if they are soon to find out the stock media player is the bomb[07:52:34] *** jjido has joined #haiku[07:52:37] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[07:52:57] <jessicah> unlike windows & os x, haiku's mediaplayer can play most things out of the box[07:53:15] <pseudomind> yeah, and it manages to be quite unobtrusive[07:53:19] <pseudomind> also unlike the others[07:53:30] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[07:53:44] <jessicah> wmp's album view is unobtrusive[07:53:50] <jessicah> :o[07:53:51] <jessicah> compiled[07:54:45] <pseudomind> so I just started seriously learning C about 3 weeks ago[07:54:57] <pseudomind> how much of Haiku would you say is C as opposed to C++?[07:55:41] <jessicah> ohloh says about half[07:55:42] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:56:08] <jessicah> but stuff you'd want to care about, mostly c++ i'd say[07:56:27] <jessicah> okies, time for me to go[07:56:31] <jessicah> cu later :)[07:56:39] <pseudomind> okay, thanks for chatting[07:56:42] <pseudomind> good work btw[07:59:11] <jessicah> eh, wasn't me[07:59:17] <jessicah> Cian did the work[07:59:27] <jessicah> i'm just testing building atm[07:59:31] <jessicah> will hack around with it later[07:59:38] <jessicah> byes :)[08:04:02] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:10:33] *** rimio has joined #haiku[08:14:39] <jstressman> hrm... when I play one of the YTMND mp3s, it tries to play it as a video and pegs my CPU usage. :([08:15:22] <jstressman> and then it also doesn't save the playlist when I close MediaPlayer.[08:15:51] <jstressman> (it normally does if I play other tracks in the playlist... but once I play one of those and it does that, it won't save it on exit, so I'll have to reload the music when I start it next time.)[08:16:26] <augiedoggie> any mp3 or some specific ones?[08:16:43] *** Cian has joined #haiku[08:17:10] <augiedoggie> there is a regression with ffmpeg in recent revs[08:18:53] *** jjido has quit IRC[08:21:13] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[08:24:15] *** Cian has quit IRC[08:25:14] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[08:32:03] <jstressman> augiedoggie: just specific ones.[08:32:13] <jstressman> I think they're mp3s with an embedded image.[08:32:20] <jstressman> they have the album cover embedded or something.[08:32:26] <dreamed> heh so .. anything bought online[08:32:49] *** Xcyish has joined #haiku[08:33:21] <jstressman> I haven't gotten around to testing older builds yet to see if MediaPlayer works with a bunch of my videos.[08:34:15] *** Cian has joined #haiku[08:36:03] <jstressman> I was trying to get the haiku nightlies to boot straight from grub2.[08:36:11] <jstressman> but it says 'invalid magic number'[08:36:17] * dreamed boggles[08:36:38] <jstressman> I booted Linux Mint 13 (maya/cinammon) just fine straight from grub2.[08:36:47] <jstressman> and installed it to one of my linux partitions. :)[08:37:20] <jstressman> but I don't know enough about kernel and initrd (whatever it equates to on Haiku) and whatever the kernel offset might be etc...[08:37:34] <jstressman> so I can't figure out how to get the Haiku one working. either the iso or the anyboot.[08:37:43] <jstressman> it would be awesome if one of the Haiku gurus would. :D[08:38:01] <jstressman> then I could avoid having to wear out my usb thumb drive on writing images to it all the time.[08:40:54] <dreamed> does it assume it needs to have the boot partition all to itself or something?[08:46:37] *** iyank4 has joined #haiku[08:48:39] <arfonzo> morning all[08:49:13] <dreamed> 'lo[08:49:40] <arfonzo> hey dreamed[08:51:15] <jstressman> I really don't know... I tried to read about it but my brain started melting and I gave up.[08:51:33] <jstressman> I was just doing blind ignorant cargo cult stuff...[08:51:52] <jstressman> (imitating stuff that works for other things, randomly hoping some random incantation will accomplish what I desire.)[08:53:26] <arfonzo> hm, I don't have any issues here booting from grub last I tried.[08:53:43] <jstressman> arfonzo: we're talking about booting ISOs directly from grub.[08:54:05] <jstressman> you pop the ISO on a partition and then boot it directly from grub without having to write it to a drive, cd, or usb stick etc.[08:54:50] <jstressman> I would be equally as happy if it could do the same with the raw or anyboot etc.[08:55:05] <jstressman> so long as I can boot a downloaded image directly rather than having to write it to some other media first.[08:55:07] *** Cian has quit IRC[08:55:22] <jstressman> I successfully booted the latest Linux Mint 13 iso this way and installed from it.[08:55:45] <jstressman> but Haiku is a different beast, so I don't know how to setup grub to correctly find and work with the correct bits.[08:56:11] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/PeIcons1.png[08:56:16] <jstressman> what do you guys think of that by the way?[08:56:37] <arfonzo> not sure about using ISOs, sorry. I did it via raw or anyboot IIRC.[08:56:43] <jstressman> I did up the rest of them when I started working on the Doom3 source because it was irritating me to not be able to tell the different file types apart.[08:57:05] <jstressman> arfonzo: you booted raw or anyboot directly from grub? :o do you still have the grub conf around?[08:57:53] <arfonzo> I do somewhere, it's on an old work laptop... I'd have to find out where the laptop went tho.[09:01:09] <jstressman> I would love if you could. :)[09:01:24] <jstressman> right now I have an entry to boot from a usb drive, since for some reason my bios won't detect and boot it.[09:01:47] <jstressman> but I would love to skip that step and just boot the image directly from a partition. :)[09:06:21] <iyank4> http://superuser.com/questions/154133/grub-boot-from-iso[09:10:16] <arfonzo> Doesn't look like it's here at home anymore. I'll try to grab it sometime if I go into our office in the near future.[09:18:37] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:22:19] *** bob_ok has joined #haiku[09:22:24] <dreamed> those icons are nice, btw jstressman[09:25:23] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[09:34:07] *** letharion has quit IRC[09:35:32] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:38:02] <jstressman> fantastic. our cats just discovered the laundry shoot.[09:38:04] *** Sintendo has joined #haiku[09:38:17] *** letharion has joined #haiku[09:38:36] <jstressman> 2 of them thus far have hurled themselves down it to get down here into the basement with us. :P (we keep the door at the top of the stairs shut to keep the cats separate since the male upstairs doens't get along with the 1 female that stays down here with us.)[09:39:51] <dreamed> lol[09:42:43] <jstressman> there. Sammi just taped it shut. hopefully that will keep them from breaking their little adventurous necks. :P[09:43:05] <jstressman> it's only a 4 foot drop or so... (just over a meter)[09:43:19] <jstressman> but it's so narrow that they can't really flip in the air, so they might land on their heads or something.[09:44:29] *** pseudomind has quit IRC[09:46:20] *** SchalaZeal has joined #haiku[09:47:09] *** wbsd has quit IRC[09:48:17] <jstressman> dreamed: and thank you. :)[09:48:21] <SchalaZeal> When following the instructions on building a GCC 2.95 hybrid cross tools package, I tend to get an error when it gets to building libbe, saying "ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro'"[09:48:47] <SchalaZeal> building from Arch Linux 64[09:49:11] <jstressman> iyank4: I already read that. :) like I said, I booted a Linux Mint 13 ISO that way already.[09:49:43] <jstressman> but Haiku is a different boot setup, so you have to understand at a low level what it happening, and understand the nitty gritty of grub2 to know how to make it do the right things to boot it.[09:50:17] <jstressman> (it might even require either changes to the Haiku boot setup, or the use of something like the memdisk module as a shim of sorts to handle the middle stages...)[09:53:52] <iyank4> jstressman, yes, some of ISO i'm try is not bootable that way, and the ISO must not 'fragmented'[09:55:20] <augiedoggie> SchalaZeal: do you have a $LDFLAGS environment variable?[09:56:20] <SchalaZeal> uhm, apparently only during the build process, why?[09:56:47] <jstressman> GAH!!!! ARGH!! >:F WebPositive can't upload to Google Docs, and Qupzilla just crashes every time.[09:56:59] <dreamed> google docs ftl[09:57:03] <jstressman> A BROWSER A BROWSER, MY KINGDOM FOR A BROWSER (that works!) >_<;[09:57:19] <augiedoggie> the only references from google are from Arch users and they say it's being set[09:57:24] <SchalaZeal> should I unset $LDFLAGS?[09:57:35] <augiedoggie> you can try[09:58:01] <jstressman> dreamed: I'm posting on my Haiku blog, and I just want a simple place to host the 15kB file of the actual icons, so I can link it to the blog post.[09:58:12] <jstressman> and since that would be all google, it seemed the simplest solution.[09:58:27] <jstressman> (blogger is owned by google)[09:58:32] * dreamed nods[09:59:08] <SchalaZeal> Google seems to be buying and trashing every popular site these days.[09:59:58] <SchalaZeal> "Hey, here's X amount of money if you let us have your site to take a dump on"[10:00:46] <SchalaZeal> anyway, I'll be back if the tools fail on me again[10:01:29] *** TimKack has joined #haiku[10:02:19] * jstressman bashes head on desk.[10:34:07] *** echelog has joined #haiku[10:35:01] *** AmineKhaldi has quit IRC[10:35:14] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[10:35:19] *** Mazon has joined #haiku[10:36:51] *** Cld has joined #haiku[10:37:50] *** AmineKhaldi has joined #haiku[10:45:42] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[10:48:39] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[10:48:39] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[10:52:24] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[10:57:27] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.[10:58:09] *** iyank4 has quit IRC[10:59:51] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[11:03:51] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[11:05:24] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:09:56] *** SchalaZeal has joined #haiku[11:10:24] <SchalaZeal> Well, I built successfully, but I don't know how to install anything with jam[11:10:39] <SchalaZeal> the cross tools that is[11:10:56] <arfonzo> hey brobostigon[11:12:24] <brobostigon> hey arfonzo[11:13:18] <diver> SchalaZeal: install with jam?[11:13:48] <diver> what do you want to do?[11:14:00] <SchalaZeal> well I want to know where to place the stuff I built -- compilers tools, headers, libs..[11:14:12] <arfonzo> how goes it diver & brobostigon?[11:14:16] <SchalaZeal> the ones for the cross compiler toolchain[11:14:40] <diver> arfonzo: mostly fine, thanks :-)[11:14:58] <arfonzo> diver: that's good to hear, mostly :) been a while since we spoke.[11:15:31] <diver> SchalaZeal: how did you build it? it should be placed automatically in the right place[11:15:50] <SchalaZeal> ....auto-placed where?[11:15:59] <arfonzo> diver: oh, I meant to ask you, and I have asked this about 50 times from you already, sorry - FTP-FS, is that via UserlandFS? Or... how would I use UserlandFS?[11:16:16] <brobostigon> arfonzo: not bad, yet. this heat is killing my eczema, and am not sleeping properly. and you?[11:16:29] <arfonzo> or is UserlandFS in need of work before it can be used to mount FTPs as part of FS[11:16:55] <diver> arfonzo: FTP-FS is only available for BeOS, with UserlandFS you can get sshfs[11:16:59] <arfonzo> brobostigon: that's no good... here it's "hot" for the UK, around 25-30 deg C.[11:17:16] <arfonzo> diver: ok, but there were these terrible KDLs with sshfs currently still, right?[11:17:20] <diver> SchalaZeal: that depends on how you built it[11:17:38] <brobostigon> arfonzo: similer here 25-26c also.[11:18:18] <diver> arfonzo: they aren't fixed yet, but IIRC it only happens if you try to mount the same host twice[11:18:49] <SchalaZeal> well I'm on Arch Linux 64-bit, built the jam executable in the repo I checked out, installed that, configured a GCC 2 hybrid, and ran jam -q @nightly-raw[11:19:57] <SchalaZeal> Everything built successfully, but... I don't know where in /usr I'll put it all[11:20:44] <SchalaZeal> wait[11:20:45] <diver> SchalaZeal: you don't, jam -q @nightly-raw created haiku-nightly.image file[11:20:57] <SchalaZeal> maybe I should've done --cross-tools-prefix[11:21:21] <SchalaZeal> I know, but I was talking about the cross SDK[11:22:33] <diver> this is how I build on 32 bit ubuntu linux http://pastebin.com/BHn2A4Yv[11:22:36] <SchalaZeal> hMM i SHOULD TRY THAT PREFIX PARAMETER i THINK[11:22:41] <SchalaZeal> oops[11:22:43] <diver> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/configure[11:22:45] <SchalaZeal> reverse caps[11:23:55] <SchalaZeal> hmm[11:24:37] <SchalaZeal> Well, where on your Ubuntu filesystem would you put stuff like the GCC binaries, headers, libs, etc?[11:26:35] <diver> I don't, they are added to the resulting image[11:26:57] <diver> or you want to develop Haiku apps on linux?[11:27:33] <SchalaZeal> Yes[11:29:02] <diver> then you probably need to use --include-3rdparty from the link above[11:29:48] <arfonzo> diver: do you have that link regarding using sshfs handy? I recall there was a post about it, somewhat recent.[11:30:42] <diver> it's attached to this ticket https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8427[11:31:07] <arfonzo> aye that's the ticket! :) thanks.[11:31:33] <SchalaZeal> If I'm going to be distributing a package script for Arch Linux, would I want to omit patented code?[11:31:46] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[11:31:53] <diver> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15787359/sshfs_gcc4_bundle.zip this one also includes UserlandFS, I don't know if it still works on current nightlies, tho..[11:33:01] <arfonzo> thanks diver... I've build my haiku env with UserlandFS, will that interfere?[11:33:45] <diver> well then you just need sshfs binary[11:34:18] <arfonzo> ok, I will try this later today again. Do you use this yourself?[11:34:52] <arfonzo> I'm wondering how stable it is for heavy read/writes such as compiling off a sshfs.[11:34:56] <diver> SchalaZeal: I'm not sure if there's still something left in Haiku which uses patented code flags, but to be on the safe side it's better to omit it[11:35:10] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:35:12] <diver> arfonzo: I used it a couple of times so far[11:36:07] <SchalaZeal> Yeah, I guess in case an Arch official wanted to put a prebuilt package in the main software repo[11:36:47] <SchalaZeal> I'll make a few other variants with patents on that should stay user-only[11:37:20] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[11:37:38] <SchalaZeal> like... user builds them with the package script but they're at risk of litigation if they decide to redist it[11:38:24] <SchalaZeal> It would be nice to see Qt on Haiku though.[11:39:48] <diver> patented code flag was used to build freetype and ffmpeg, but now that they aren't part of haiku tree this flag is not used anymore[11:40:00] *** Luko has joined #haiku[11:40:20] <arfonzo> diver: did you find it stable? I.e., it stays mounted over a day or two?[11:40:24] <arfonzo> hi Luko[11:42:55] <diver> arfonzo: I used it for an hour or so, so I can't really say[11:43:41] <arfonzo> fair enough... just trying to find someone to uses it quite heavily to see what the experience is, I'll try later anyways.[11:45:13] <diver> I don't think many people used it, maybe 3-4 maximum[11:45:52] <diver> bu it uses normal ssh client to deal with FS[11:46:29] <arfonzo> hm, do you know the status of FUSE for Haiku?[11:48:47] <diver> you can judge from the log http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/userlandfs/server/fuse[11:49:21] <Luko> hi[11:49:23] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 81aad168f87486149f6e4ce8acc43e3e7a5de9e1 :[11:49:23] <CIA-63> Fixed type mismatch in picture data. [2 commits][11:49:23] <CIA-63> The size of an operation block was written as size_t by PictureDataWriter[11:49:23] <CIA-63> but read as int32 by PicturePlayer. Fixes an app_server crash.[11:49:26] <diver> it hasn't been touched for 2,5 year[11:50:10] <arfonzo> aye, just looking now... yeah, good to know that at least some work was underway on it. But doesn't look like it'll be working fully anytime soon. Alas.[11:51:24] <diver> yeah, only simple fuse modules can be used now, Ingo ported a couple for testing purposes back then[11:52:45] *** stargater has joined #haiku[11:52:48] <stargater> hi[11:56:07] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[11:56:26] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[11:57:55] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[11:58:07] *** bob_ok has quit IRC[11:59:09] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has joined #haiku[12:07:21] *** Luko has quit IRC[12:19:09] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[12:19:09] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[12:29:12] *** SchalaZeal has quit IRC[12:29:37] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[12:49:15] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 2b861dd2a5a8129154c0c3003d816d2912890c27 : Added translator add-ons.[12:55:09] *** mmadia has quit IRC[12:56:53] <stargater> cu[12:56:59] *** stargater has quit IRC[12:58:37] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[13:09:16] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[13:13:03] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:13:03] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[13:16:34] *** Megaf has 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<Cellphon> there is the dialog that pops up to enter the New File Name and there's a checkbox to "Create a header and source file"[13:30:54] <Cellphon> in the first try i entered "Project" as a name for the new file because i thought it would create Project.cpp and Project.h automaticly[13:31:17] <Cellphon> but instead it created a file named "Project" and "Project.h"[13:31:40] <Cellphon> but when i deleted the "Project" source file it didnt delete the header file[13:31:58] <Cellphon> plus that header file didnt show in the source files browser[13:32:56] <Cellphon> which i felt strange because im a little bit familiar with IDEs that show source and header files[13:33:18] <Cellphon> so when i created the Project.cpp file again[13:33:54] <Cellphon> i had to open the folder containing the source files in order to edit some .h files[13:34:13] <mmadia> looking at it, 'Remove selected files" simply removes it from the project file , not deleting them from the filesystem.[13:34:28] <Cellphon> ok fair enough[13:34:30] <Cellphon> but[13:34:57] <Cellphon> how cant i see the header file with the source files of the project[13:35:14] <mmadia> it's possible that the author hasn't gotten around to implementing adding the automatically created header to the project too.[13:35:38] <Cellphon> oh ok[13:35:53] <Cellphon> so it is "as designed"[13:35:56] <mmadia> so you may need to manually add it, aftewwards.[13:36:07] <Cellphon> i was worried i did something wrong[13:36:08] <mmadia> or "TODO: implement me!" :)[13:36:34] <Cellphon> well, im trying to do some exercices first[13:36:57] <Cellphon> because i didnt write something in c++ since the college[13:37:11] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/tags/learningtoprogramwithhaiku[13:37:21] <mmadia> and the second in the series, http://www.haiku-os.org/tags/programmingwithhaiku[13:37:43] <Cellphon> well, im already doing the exercices from DarkWhyrm[13:37:48] <mmadia> nice![13:37:56] <Cellphon> that's why i found myself here[13:38:28] <Cellphon> i have the bebook webpage open[13:38:31] <Cellphon> and the exercices[13:38:51] <Cellphon> but the paladin behaviour annoyed me and like i said before, i thought i did wrong[13:39:13] <Cellphon> im trying to get myself hooked with haiku dev[13:39:16] <mmadia> for the bebook, just be aware that Haiku's API doesn't follow it 100%[13:39:54] <Cellphon> okay[13:40:00] <Cellphon> nice to know[13:40:46] *** jimage has quit IRC[13:40:55] <Cellphon> but i had some compile error earlier and it popped up the haiku Window.h file so i could see thae function prototype[13:40:56] <Cellphon> so[13:41:12] <Cellphon> are they accurate or not yet ?[13:41:22] *** jimage has joined #haiku[13:42:05] <mmadia> for the most part yes, I don't know each individual spot where Haiku's API differs.[13:42:33] <mmadia> but http://www.freelists.org/list/haiku-3rdparty-dev is a good mailing list to ask for development help. :)[13:43:44] <Cellphon> im sorry to bother you here[13:43:59] <mmadia> no bother, i'm just not a strong c/c++ developer.[13:44:23] <Cellphon> me too, im just a java dev where i work[14:03:06] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[14:04:43] *** Luko has joined #haiku[14:06:53] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:06:53] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[14:07:34] *** Cellphon has quit IRC[14:11:27] *** Sintendo has joined #haiku[14:24:32] *** paval has joined #haiku[14:29:29] *** GuestOne has joined #haiku[14:32:21] *** wesbluemarine has joined #haiku[14:34:21] *** wesbluemarine has quit IRC[14:40:22] *** rimio has quit IRC[14:46:14] *** jjido has joined #haiku[14:46:46] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[14:49:18] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 128e3675595d54564cc99c20c07ed65f21e167be : Add prefixes/macros for struct stat and stat(). [4 commits][14:52:03] *** paval has quit IRC[14:56:26] *** TimKack_ has joined #haiku[14:59:19] *** wesbluemarine has joined #haiku[14:59:24] *** kcj has quit IRC[15:00:23] *** wesbluemarine has quit IRC[15:03:35] *** netstar has joined #haiku[15:03:39] <netstar> Hey[15:10:53] *** netstar has quit IRC[15:13:02] *** netstar has joined #haiku[15:13:39] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[15:13:56] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[15:19:05] <jstressman> netstar: 'morning. :) (or 'afternoon in your case) ;)[15:35:12] <netstar> Hey[15:35:13] <netstar> :)[15:35:22] *** adev has joined #haiku[15:43:00] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/RkV8gGWW[15:43:05] <jstressman> any idea what's breaking here? :([15:43:15] <jstressman> that's a correct SRC_URI as far as I can tell.[15:43:19] <jstressman> and svn is definitely installed.[15:46:08] *** netstar has quit IRC[15:49:21] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 6d796a84bd484ccc4fb072a29c663b660180ae51 : (log message trimmed)[15:49:21] <CIA-63> Fixed up network stack and drivers for x86_64.[15:49:21] <CIA-63> * Various compilation fixes.[15:49:21] <CIA-63> * Fixes to the FreeBSD compatibility layer (from comparing the x86-[15:49:22] <CIA-63> specific bits with the equivalent amd64 sources in FreeBSD).[15:49:22] <CIA-63> * Compile all the Ethernet drivers except for sis900 and wb840, these[15:49:23] <CIA-63> require a bit more work to fix (will file a ticket soon). Tested[15:49:23] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 695b8cd2477f0c89fd3703001026a73b93fd817f : Add target_dirent.h [3 commits][15:54:08] *** letharion has quit IRC[15:57:35] *** letharion has joined #haiku[15:57:52] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[16:03:22] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[16:04:08] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[16:12:18] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[16:34:42] *** Postumus has quit IRC[16:39:33] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[16:39:56] <jstressman> http://haikudou.blogspot.com/2012/08/new-redgreen-color-blind-friendly-pe.html[16:44:24] *** dcase has joined #haiku[16:45:39] *** pseudomind has joined #haiku[16:46:32] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:46:58] *** luroh has joined #haiku[16:47:56] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[16:49:18] <CIA-63> ahenriksson-github.production: ahenriksson-github * a937ebae6f9123dddbdbd2a7e9505ef740f46d89 :[16:49:18] <CIA-63> Change "< B_OK" comparisons on status_t values to "!= B_OK" [4 commits][16:49:18] <CIA-63> No functional change intended.[16:50:22] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:51:42] *** Sintendo has joined #haiku[16:51:46] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[16:58:23] *** stpere has joined #haiku[17:00:24] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[17:01:12] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[17:04:25] *** Forca has joined #haiku[17:08:57] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has quit IRC[17:11:37] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/RkV8gGWW anyone? :([17:12:24] <mmadia> http://pe-editor.berlios.de , in case a ticket hasn't been filed there for your new icons.[17:12:51] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[17:12:52] <jstressman> I filed a ticket there, but you can't attach files there... so I'll just link to the article.[17:12:56] <jstressman> thanks for the reminder. :)[17:12:58] <mmadia> that's possibly an issue with HaikuPorter itself, though, i don't have time to look into it now.[17:16:00] <arfonzo> Hey guys. I've experienced some strange behavior with the haikuporter script recently too. Seems to only want to run from bash.[17:17:53] <mmadia> that's very likely.[17:18:13] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[17:19:38] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[17:21:14] <jstressman> I just ran bash and tried it... same error.[17:21:34] <jstressman> it's an older rev though... 44304[17:21:49] <jstressman> it's my vbox install[17:21:57] <xyzzy> jstressman: the SVN URL it's trying to check out is a WebSVN URL, a checkout won't work from that[17:22:07] <xyzzy> can you change it to svn:// instead of http://?[17:22:19] <jstressman> I'll try that.[17:22:38] *** jjido has quit IRC[17:23:15] <jstressman> xyzzy: that was it! thank you. :) :)[17:23:21] <xyzzy> :)[17:25:09] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[17:26:47] *** fhein has joined #haiku[17:27:07] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[17:27:48] *** pseudomind has quit IRC[17:30:08] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[17:30:27] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[17:31:51] *** jjido has joined #haiku[17:34:48] *** _marc` has quit IRC[17:38:19] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[17:48:22] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[17:49:21] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 26852663eef26cbabc588092bc639f5f7a4f5202 :[17:49:21] <CIA-63> First pass at adding target_stdio*.h [3 commits][17:49:21] <CIA-63> Notes and TODO's included. Review more than appreciated.[17:49:36] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * ac4525b2a5a2f3fa3805efaf0c61f88fe1ff1e30 :[17:49:36] <CIA-63> Changed BRegion to use int32 instead of long.[17:49:36] <CIA-63> There is no need for fCount and fDataSize to be long, not going to have[17:49:36] <CIA-63> more than 2^32 rectangles in a region. Thanks Axel for pointing that[17:49:37] <CIA-63> out.[17:56:29] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[17:58:24] *** adev has quit IRC[18:01:49] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[18:02:08] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[18:05:52] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:06:19] *** Luko has quit IRC[18:14:27] *** TimKack has quit IRC[18:19:07] *** fhein has quit IRC[18:20:21] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[18:24:57] *** Cian has joined #haiku[18:31:52] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:34:17] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:34:50] <CIA-63> haiku.master: stpere * hrev44510 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=c01e918 :[18:34:50] <CIA-63> Cancel editing of Widget if sorting of poses occured. [2 commits][18:34:50] <CIA-63> Since the position of the widget was registered at the first click,[18:34:50] <CIA-63> it likely changed and its causing drawing afterfacts (it's editing at[18:34:50] <CIA-63> its old location).[18:37:42] *** jjido has quit IRC[18:40:24] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[18:41:39] *** fhein has quit IRC[18:44:24] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[18:45:58] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[18:46:03] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[18:49:38] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * c68b3e166cc264bf229b7a136ee4c1980adb8bc7 : Add [target_]fs_attr.h [4 commits][18:49:39] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 8098ef47db1f499e149cd5757798687267813cc2 : Added Network preferences.[18:52:08] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[18:54:29] *** Cian has quit IRC[18:57:34] *** rennj has quit IRC[18:57:48] *** happy4cr_ has joined #haiku[18:58:21] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[18:59:07] *** Luko has joined #haiku[19:06:13] *** jimage has quit IRC[19:06:40] *** jimage has joined #haiku[19:12:13] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[19:13:16] *** slubman has quit IRC[19:14:10] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[19:14:41] *** slubman has joined #haiku[19:15:41] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[19:17:37] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[19:18:11] *** Cian has joined #haiku[19:18:17] *** happy4cr_ has quit IRC[19:19:35] *** slubman has quit IRC[19:22:38] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:29:30] *** slubman has joined #haiku[19:29:35] *** slubman has quit IRC[19:30:59] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:37:21] *** slubman has joined #haiku[19:37:35] *** rennj has joined #haiku[19:39:14] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[19:40:22] *** fhein has joined #haiku[19:49:14] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 16f252c6d43692c1201567a2267c1eb027bd431f : Fixed some typos. 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:( need to remap video & audio =/[22:50:58] *** DrHouse|TARDIS has quit IRC[22:51:18] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:52:11] *** DrHouse|TARDIS has joined #haiku[22:53:11] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:54:16] <diver> jessicah: listimage | grep drivers[22:57:33] <jessicah`> hmm, that lists both radeon_hd & vesa[22:59:34] <jessicah`> aaaand now Tracker won't come back[23:02:06] <diver> jessicah: vesa is always loaded[23:02:23] <jessicah`> oh okay[23:03:00] <diver> my guess would be some FS problems, try checkfs /boot and unmount ntfs volume and then restart Tracker[23:04:09] <jessicah`> didn't work[23:04:12] <jessicah`> i'll just restart[23:04:22] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[23:07:21] *** idefix_gromit has quit IRC[23:07:23] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[23:07:30] <jessicah`> and back :)[23:07:55] <jessicah`> and half my ntfs is missing[23:08:00] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[23:08:45] <diver> ouch[23:08:59] <jessicah`> windows can prolly fix it[23:09:29] <jessicah`> yay, audio[23:11:13] <stpere> hi diver[23:11:49] <DHowett> high dive[23:12:14] <jessicah`> yay, that has to be the coolest part of workspaces in haiku[23:12:20] <jessicah`> individual screen resolutions[23:12:37] <jessicah`> screen res to 720p on a workspace for watching video[23:12:48] <jessicah`> since it can't drive 1080p in fullscreen[23:13:05] <diver> stpere: hi![23:16:54] *** DrHouse|TARDIS has quit IRC[23:18:03] <jessicah`> pretty smooth :)[23:18:24] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[23:19:36] *** Luko has quit IRC[23:21:38] *** rdmr has quit IRC[23:23:38] <jessicah`> is there a ramdisk that works for haiku?[23:25:58] <AlienSoldier> jessicah` you may want to ask this to AGMS on beshare[23:26:20] <diver> jessicah: there is something here http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/ramfs[23:29:51] *** slubman has quit IRC[23:31:59] *** slubman has joined #haiku[23:33:43] *** slubman has quit IRC[23:35:01] *** jjido has joined #haiku[23:35:06] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[23:35:12] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[23:35:58] *** slubman has joined #haiku[23:44:18] *** jjido has quit IRC[23:46:47] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[23:47:26] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:49:37] <jessicah`> wow, ntfs driver is really slow[23:50:01] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:52:34] *** Luko has joined #haiku[23:52:43] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[23:53:05] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[23:53:29] <jessicah`> err, not slow. live-locked >_<[23:53:50] <DHowett> "Slow enough to have actually come to a complete stop."[23:54:12] <jessicah`> i disabled one of the CPUs, and system halted :P[23:54:23] * dreamed snorts[23:54:35] <jessicah`> hey dreamed![23:55:37] * dreamed waves[23:55:49] <jessicah`> i was wondering if the crazy cpu behaviour was a threading/locking issue[23:56:05] <jessicah`> so disabled one, sure enough it changed to 100% cpu, and then died[23:56:43] *** jjido has joined #haiku[23:57:20] <dreamed> that sounds problematic[23:58:17] <jessicah`> weird. lots of timing issues with media set to 44100khz[23:58:47] *** adb has joined #haiku[23:59:29] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:59:51] <jessicah`> nvm, it's just completely broken