August 9, 2012 
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August 9, 2012 [00:02:12] <Disreali> anyone know how to change the # of workspaces on gnome?[00:02:38] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:02:40] <Anarchos> Disreali i don't know Disreali[00:02:50] <Disreali> thanks anyway[00:02:51] <Anarchos> s/Disraeli/gnome/[00:02:55] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[00:06:26] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[00:06:48] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[00:08:27] *** Smartnow has quit IRC[00:09:29] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[00:13:19] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:14:29] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[00:15:50] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[00:17:50] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[00:19:52] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[00:20:47] *** Disreali has quit IRC[00:23:59] *** PasNox_ has quit IRC[00:25:21] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[00:25:23] *** doublegg has joined #haiku[00:25:58] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[00:26:18] *** jjido has quit IRC[00:26:29] *** jjido has joined #haiku[00:34:12] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:39:19] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:39:54] *** kcj has joined #haiku[00:51:06] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[00:51:27] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[00:55:29] <dreamed> coffee helped[00:55:33] <dreamed> how is everyone today?[00:56:03] <jessicah> doing okay[00:56:06] <jessicah> hungry, as always[00:57:14] <dreamed> I have a mr bento full of snack bits here with me this week. It's helping immensely[00:57:18] <dreamed> also: mr bento rocks[00:57:31] <dreamed> though I've run out of cashew nuts >_>[00:57:36] <dreamed> on the first day >_>[00:58:24] <HaikuUser> having a play with haiku, seems very nippy atm[00:59:06] *** TimKack has quit IRC[01:01:27] <jessicah> never heard of a mr bento[01:02:19] <dreamed> http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/kitchen/2008_03_11-MrBento.jpg[01:02:39] <dreamed> it's designed to let you have hot and cold things[01:02:47] <dreamed> but I find if I try to use it every day I cbf cleaning it[01:02:54] <dreamed> so I'm using dry snacks which are fine all week instead[01:03:05] <dreamed> but you put cold at the bottom going to hot at the top[01:03:08] <dreamed> works well[01:05:57] <jessicah> for a red planet, mars sure looks blue[01:06:02] <jessicah> http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html[01:06:24] <jessicah> mr bento looks intriguing[01:06:58] <dreamed> the only downside is it's not confirmed to be dishwasher safe[01:07:51] <dreamed> though I reckon it would be okay on lower temps (55deg etc)[01:07:53] <dreamed> in the top[01:09:01] <stpere> HaikuUser :)[01:09:12] <stpere> HaikuUser, feel free to ask if you have any questions![01:11:22] <jessicah> i don't have a dishwasher[01:12:56] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:13:18] <HaikuUser> none atm, besides the link doesn't actually work in haiku, looks like adobe is needed[01:13:27] <HaikuUser> jessicah, you aren't alone[01:13:32] <HaikuUser> i've never had one[01:13:43] <dreamed> jessicah: only the last few places I've had have had one[01:13:47] <HaikuUser> good old elbow greese and a qualit sponge does the job[01:13:50] <dreamed> but it's a lifesaver when I'm sick[01:14:27] <dreamed> which is rather a lot[01:14:40] <HaikuUser> how come ?[01:15:34] <dreamed> I lived in wellington during the first swine flu epidemic[01:15:37] <dreamed> and since then my lungs are terribad[01:15:57] <dreamed> it attacks the lungs[01:16:08] <dreamed> so I went from using an asthma inhaler once every couple of years[01:16:12] <dreamed> to 18 odd times a day[01:16:15] <HaikuUser> thought it didn't spread to humans ..[01:16:23] <dreamed> it's better than that now, since moving and going on a new steroid[01:16:26] <dreamed> but it was pretty bad[01:16:27] <HaikuUser> do you have a brown one ?[01:16:30] <dreamed> red one[01:16:31] <HaikuUser> that really helps[01:16:33] <dreamed> the brown one did nothing[01:16:34] <HaikuUser> red ?[01:16:39] <dreamed> symbicort[01:17:12] <HaikuUser> hell didn't even know a red one existed, i get 560 normally now, but went down to 420 and that was horrid[01:17:23] <dreamed> red one seems fairly new[01:17:29] <dreamed> they tried me on an orange one as wel[01:17:29] <dreamed> l[01:17:35] <dreamed> it had strange side effects for me[01:18:22] <dreamed> jessicah: I just looked at that panorama[01:18:32] <dreamed> I' amused that they donuted it[01:18:37] <dreamed> bunch of hoons[01:18:44] <jessicah> :p[01:19:13] <HaikuUser> well i'm going to reconfigure this haiku VM, have fun and good luck.[01:19:19] <dreamed> you too[01:19:29] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[01:19:45] *** oco has quit IRC[01:19:59] *** Postumus has quit IRC[01:20:00] <jessicah> the politics surrounding the olympics is messed up[01:20:11] <jessicah> the olympics used to have so much more meaning...[01:20:31] <dreamed> capitalism at work[01:22:11] <jessicah> "rogue condoms", guy with parkinsons arrested for not visibly enjoying olympics, just crazy[01:22:24] <dreamed> yikes[01:22:35] <jessicah> http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/08/158416801/rogue-condoms-appear-in-olympic-village-organizers-take-action & http://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/08/disabled-spectator-arrested-for-not-visibly-enjoying-olympic-event.html[01:25:15] * dreamed facepalms[01:26:35] <dreamed> I wonder if nz will end up as visibly fascist as america and the uk[01:29:55] <jessicah> if john key has his way, probably will[01:30:12] * dreamed sighs[01:30:37] <jessicah> don't look at me, i didn't vote for the bastard[01:31:03] * dreamed sniggers[01:31:28] <jessicah> i think the green party is the future[01:31:40] <dreamed> I'd like to think so[01:32:00] <dreamed> but most voters are motivated by money rather than social conscience or environmental conscience[01:32:09] <dreamed> still, the greens do have a nice balancing effect on coalition partners[01:32:45] <dreamed> they have a bunch of terrible candidates though[01:32:49] <jessicah> what money? at this rate, the government won't have any[01:32:53] <dreamed> so most green voters I know vote strategically[01:33:18] <dreamed> jessicah: well, to be fair the country seemed to vote clarke out because they didn't like a) having a woman in power or b) what she looked like[01:33:21] * dreamed headdesks[01:33:30] <dreamed> best pm we've had since seddon[01:34:11] <jessicah> yeah, totally agree[01:35:00] <jessicah> one of the interesting things i'd like to see is what would happen with the PM position if the greens got majority[01:35:15] <dreamed> I'd be very interested to see that[01:35:21] <jessicah> since they don't have an overall party leader[01:35:26] <dreamed> but I doubt we'll ever have an activist majority over a career politician majority[01:35:27] <jessicah> but two co-leaders[01:35:32] <dreamed> I imagine they'd co-lead[01:35:47] <jessicah> mr & mrs PM? :p[01:35:48] <jessicah> hehe[01:36:14] <dreamed> heh[01:36:20] <jessicah> i dunno. i think the greens are a lot more sensible than some people give them credit for[01:36:25] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[01:36:58] <dreamed> they absolutely are[01:37:06] <dreamed> but I don't think sense wins votes nearly as much as emotion[01:38:07] <jessicah> ah, then that's easy. show all the negative crap that goes on in the US, link Key with the US, and people be like "omg, we're turning into America?!"[01:38:09] <jessicah> :p[01:38:16] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[01:40:18] <dreamed> I wish[01:40:23] <dreamed> but that sort of thing requires money[01:41:44] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[01:42:51] <CIA-63> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev44498 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=74e2884 : 64-bit fixes. Gets Debugger fully compiling on x86-64.[01:48:16] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:48:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:49:17] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * c71e5e77399bd6127a63434869907d61c198be12 : Don't wrap function pointers. [3 commits][01:56:31] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:59:55] <CIA-63> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev44499 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=6e3918f :[01:59:55] <CIA-63> Don't release reference if we don't have one.[01:59:55] <CIA-63> Fixes a crash seen if Debugger was run on an unsupported architecture, e.g.[01:59:55] <CIA-63> x86-64 (for now).[02:05:29] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[02:08:23] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[02:24:04] *** rennj has quit IRC[02:40:49] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[02:48:29] <jessicah> ooh, i hope nightlies of x64 will be starting soon[02:49:19] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * f7c35cf464752e44ce966c9a12d61882f5387611 : nfs4: Add attribute directory related hooks [2 commits][02:55:05] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:58:18] *** paul0 has quit IRC[02:59:25] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:12:15] *** doublegg has quit IRC[03:15:36] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[03:30:21] *** rennj has joined #haiku[03:31:20] <dreamed> hrmm[03:31:28] <dreamed> I can't find any houses I can afford on my own which have a garage[03:31:30] * dreamed ponders[03:41:47] <jessicah> afford in terms of rent?[03:41:52] <jessicah> or buying an actual house?[03:42:15] <jessicah> oh, and i so silly. i forgot there's a vacancy in my team :p[03:42:22] <jessicah> not published yet[03:42:45] <jessicah> if you're interested in or have experience in desktop virtualisation, it the place to be, apparently[03:47:49] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:49:20] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 801d46ec2c481cef601771f271efa0816a4cf081 : Fix the defined value for _haiku_build_errno. [2 commits][03:55:42] <dreamed> rent[03:55:51] <dreamed> what's the salary range?[03:56:03] <dreamed> I've got a bit of desktop virtualisation background[03:56:09] <dreamed> mostly server, but some desktop / vdi[03:56:09] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[03:59:46] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:00:05] <jessicah> i'm not sure. i'm on $58k, so it'd be around there[04:00:14] <jessicah> say 55+, i guess[04:00:57] <jessicah> expenses would be less though, i imagine[04:00:57] * dreamed winces[04:01:03] <dreamed> they would, that's true[04:01:10] <dreamed> but that's a substantial pay decrease[04:01:10] <jessicah> my rent is $165/wk[04:01:16] * dreamed boggles[04:01:18] <jessicah> oh :([04:01:18] <dreamed> hrmm[04:01:21] <dreamed> maybe I should do some calcs[04:01:28] <dreamed> my rent is 375/wk[04:01:31] <jessicah> and as uni employee, busses are free[04:01:38] <dreamed> it's for massey?[04:01:42] <jessicah> yeah[04:01:47] <dreamed> hrmm[04:02:14] <jessicah> you get 1.5 weeks paid vacation for christmas+new years[04:02:24] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[04:02:48] <jessicah> how much do you earn? :o[04:03:05] <dreamed> 70 + on call / overtime of 75ph[04:03:12] <dreamed> so probably closer to 80/85[04:03:31] <dreamed> though I'm getting called out less, which is nice (even if less pay)[04:03:35] <jessicah> you'll almost never get overtime here[04:04:02] <jessicah> it'll almost always be toil[04:05:04] <dreamed> I hate toil[04:05:05] <dreamed> ;)[04:05:13] <dreamed> I get toil on top of overtime[04:05:27] <dreamed> i.e. if I have a crap night, I get paid the hourly rate, and then toil for the hours spent recovering / not at work[04:11:16] <dreamed> the job is pretty crap though[04:11:20] <dreamed> the on call can be horrific[04:11:29] <jessicah> :([04:11:48] <dreamed> I like my immediate team members and tsm is sort of fun[04:13:33] <dreamed> still, I'd be interested in seeing a role description[04:15:21] <dreamed> http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential/to-rent/auction-501739311.htm some lovely places down that way[04:15:53] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[04:17:14] <jessicah> oh right, can't access trademe during work hours[04:20:01] <dreamed> ah[04:20:10] <dreamed> it's pretty much exactly what I'd like to live in, in terms of housing heh[04:20:16] <dreamed> a little cottage with lots of green around it[04:20:27] <jessicah> i want some grass[04:20:33] <jessicah> my place has no grass[04:20:36] <jessicah> well, not enough[04:20:42] <dreamed> there are a couple of ways I can take that[04:20:43] <jessicah> there small patch, not much[04:20:47] <dreamed> one of them's amusing me greatly[04:21:54] <jessicah> :p[04:23:33] *** wbsd has quit IRC[04:24:36] <CIA-63> haiku.master: leavengood * hrev44500 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=6e1a7a1 :[04:24:36] <CIA-63> Fix BTextView tab calculation.[04:24:37] <CIA-63> In rare cases such as described in #7955 BTextView happens to calculate the[04:24:37] <CIA-63> width of a tab close to zero (e.g. 0.000031). This patch adds a fallback to the[04:24:37] <CIA-63> default tab width in that case.[04:24:37] <CIA-63> Signed-off-by: Ryan Leavengood <leavengood at gmail dot com>[04:29:29] *** slubman has quit IRC[04:29:46] *** slubman has joined #haiku[04:38:26] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[04:43:11] <CIA-63> haiku.master: czeidler * hrev44501 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=ba1c9c6 :[04:43:11] <CIA-63> The hotspot is already included in the shift.[04:43:12] <CIA-63> This became visible when dragging an image together with a cursor that has a reasonable large hotspot. In this case the cursor and the bitmap were shifted to much.[04:49:21] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 9479a5c77407b9406b405fa2cf0ab3d4e72aca30 :[04:49:21] <CIA-63> Updated src/build/libroot/find_directory.cpp[04:49:22] <CIA-63> Added some TODO: handle struct stat and stat().[05:07:43] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[05:14:00] <jessicah> :( it's too quiet[05:14:13] <jessicah> there's only me & team leader at work[05:14:19] <jessicah> everyone else in my team is sick[05:16:05] <dreamed> sick of work?[05:16:37] <jessicah> no, actually sick[05:18:01] <dreamed> suck :/[05:18:09] <dreamed> you're certain they're not all at the movies?[05:18:35] <jessicah> no, a couple came in this morning. they ended up going home[05:18:40] <jessicah> and yes, actually sick[05:19:34] <dreamed> flu? :/[05:19:54] <jessicah> guess so[05:24:51] <jessicah> :o[05:25:02] <jessicah> gcc4 only installer looks different[05:45:31] *** pseudomind has joined #haiku[05:51:44] *** nyl has quit IRC[06:01:42] *** Nozy has quit IRC[06:03:54] <OmniMancer> jessicah: all of the images besides the gcc2h one don't include the haiku branding[06:04:16] <jessicah> ah, i guess that makes sense[06:06:05] <jessicah> hmm, i can't seem to access freedesktop.org[06:06:50] <jessicah> needed for pkgconfig :([06:07:59] * Disreali is having to much fun watching Mythbusters outtakes[06:09:17] * jstressman is trying to figure out how to make GRUB2 boot the Haiku nightly iso directly...[06:09:39] <jessicah> it can boot an iso? :o[06:09:41] <jstressman> I think I need to mount it as loop... then tell it the kernel and then whatever the equivalent of initrd would be?[06:09:44] <jstressman> jessicah: yes.[06:09:54] <jstressman> you can boot Ubuntu that way at least.[06:09:55] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:10:00] <jstressman> and a few other things...[06:10:08] <jessicah> it's like a mini kernel...[06:10:11] <jstressman> trying to figure out if it's possible to do it with the Haiku iso. :)[06:10:51] <jessicah> wouldn't it be easier to get it to boot the anyboot image?[06:11:11] <jessicah> just a guess, anyways. never used grub2[06:13:08] <jstressman> maybe?[06:13:23] <jstressman> just mount anyboot and tell it "boot this as raw" ?[06:13:30] <jstressman> let me try that as well.[06:14:05] *** Xeon3D|Zzz is now known as Xeon3D[06:22:53] *** jstressman has quit IRC[06:26:58] <CIA-63> haiku.master: nielx * hrev44502 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=7d8b63f : Update translations from Pootle[06:27:07] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[06:27:24] <jstressman> no go...[06:29:18] <jessicah> could always just mount the raw image[06:30:13] <jessicah> you trying to avoid having to do an install?[06:32:48] <jstressman> I'm trying to avoid having to write the image to anything.[06:33:23] <jstressman> so I download it, drop it on a spare ext4 partition, then I want to be able to boot to it straight from grub2.[06:33:40] <jstressman> so that it boots the image so that I get a live-cd desktop that I can test and install if I choose.[06:35:38] <jessicah> oh. i'd use the raw disk image then[06:35:52] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[06:35:57] <jessicah> kind of like how beos r5 used to boot[06:37:37] <jessicah> if you can write a contiguous file on disk, all you really need is absolute offset of the image file[06:45:07] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[06:48:30] *** wbsd has quit IRC[06:50:58] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[06:52:24] *** ismd has quit IRC[06:52:51] *** ismd has joined #haiku[06:55:44] *** jstressman has quit IRC[07:08:34] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:28:23] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[07:29:12] <CIA-63> haiku.master: stpere * hrev44503 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=ff163a8 :[07:29:12] <CIA-63> FileTypes preflet: save HVIF icons as attributes only [4 commits][07:29:12] <CIA-63> Previously, changing a file's icon was creating both an attribute[07:29:12] <CIA-63> and a ressource, now it only saves it as an attribute[07:29:12] <CIA-63> i.e. don't change the file content.[07:32:39] *** rimio_ has quit IRC[07:32:51] *** rimio has joined #haiku[07:39:50] <stpere> night[07:41:53] *** stpere has quit IRC[07:46:25] *** wbsd has quit IRC[07:48:41] *** wbsd has joined #haiku[07:48:43] <arfonzo> morning friends[07:55:59] <dreamed> 'lo[08:02:30] <arfonzo> how goes it?[08:04:08] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:09:26] *** Xcyish has joined #haiku[08:10:45] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[08:12:17] <dreamed> eh okay[08:21:32] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[08:23:06] *** volci has quit IRC[08:23:31] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[08:23:34] *** volci has joined #haiku[08:26:42] *** Tekn0z has joined #haiku[08:27:03] *** papasmurf has joined #haiku[08:30:35] *** volci has quit IRC[08:35:32] *** modeenf has joined #haiku[08:42:46] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:48:59] *** stargater has joined #haiku[08:49:02] <stargater> moin[08:53:12] <jstressman> moin[09:00:51] <stargater> hi jstressman[09:08:16] *** pseudomind has quit 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joined #haiku[10:05:07] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[10:12:06] <jessicah> meow meow[10:12:34] <dreamed> /wave[10:13:51] <jessicah> what's up, dreamed?[10:14:37] <dreamed> reading about shiny lenses that I really shouldn't be ready about, and working on some portrait stuff from last night's class[10:14:42] <dreamed> you?[10:15:41] <dreamed> s/ready/reading[10:17:11] <jessicah> being annoyed at my internet connection[10:17:37] <dreamed> oh?[10:17:40] <jessicah> i can barely load anything[10:17:54] <dreamed> I had something like that a couple of days ago - all night/next morning[10:17:56] <dreamed> very frustrating[10:18:19] <jessicah> hmm, at least online banking is nice and fast[10:18:48] <jessicah> chrome just fails with operation timed out =/[10:20:33] <dreamed> which isp?[10:21:01] <jessicah> vodafone[10:22:50] <dreamed> I hated being on vf internet[10:22:56] <dreamed> I had so many issues, and their support sucks[10:23:08] <dreamed> after my account was closed, they tried to bill me for another year + interest[10:23:09] <jessicah> this is first time i've had issues[10:23:20] <dreamed> I'm like .. I don't even have a phone line now, how could I be using your internet?[10:23:23] <dreamed> (cable)[10:23:25] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[10:23:28] * dreamed nods[10:23:31] <dreamed> well, good luck[10:24:25] <jessicah> going through uni's vpn/proxy seems to be working[10:24:33] <jessicah> seems like international traffic is the problem[10:24:48] <jessicah> sluggish, but usable[10:30:06] <jessicah> rdp to work machine is better... :)[10:30:07] <jessicah> lol[10:30:17] <dreamed> amusing[10:30:46] <dreamed> hrmm[10:30:53] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:30:54] <dreamed> new camera > new lens I think[10:31:14] <jessicah> what are you gonna get?[10:31:24] <dreamed> nothing anytime soon[10:31:30] <dreamed> but I'd really like an m9-p[10:31:36] <dreamed> in stealthy black, like my m8.2[10:31:53] <jessicah> what brand is that?[10:31:58] <dreamed> leica[10:32:03] <jessicah> ah[10:32:13] <dreamed> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoodooyoudo/7030994829/in/set-72157629574867737/ that's it before I got any of my fancier lenses[10:32:23] <dreamed> the extra finder plugged on top doesn't get used atm[10:32:32] <dreamed> since I don't use the 21 much[10:32:42] <jessicah> i'll have to look later... :p[10:32:50] <dreamed> true heh[10:32:51] <dreamed> my bad[10:33:31] <jessicah> hmm, let me try 16-bit colour. might be a tad faster[10:39:45] <jessicah> looks so old school[10:40:12] <dreamed> the design hasn't really changed since the fifties[10:40:20] <dreamed> it still works with all the old lenses, too[10:40:30] *** Disreali has quit IRC[10:40:34] <dreamed> (no autofocus, no stabilsation, no zoom)[10:40:49] <dreamed> I love it ;)[10:40:56] <jessicah> :)[10:41:32] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[10:44:28] <jessicah> guess i won't be uploading my training data tonight =/[10:44:34] <dreamed> doh[10:45:30] <jessicah> is your camera a d-slr?[10:45:36] <dreamed> nope[10:45:42] <dreamed> it's a rangefinder[10:45:51] <dreamed> I find dslrs too big and too complex heh[10:45:58] <dreamed> I learned on an old slr about the same size as this[10:46:07] <jessicah> a rangefinder?[10:46:08] <dreamed> there's no mirror in this, and you don't see through the lens[10:46:20] <dreamed> see how it has a couple of windows on the top half of the camera?[10:46:37] <dreamed> basically it creates a converged point of view in the viewfinder, that moves as you turn the focusing ring[10:46:45] <dreamed> I'd link you to a quick video to show how it works but...[10:46:45] <jessicah> i can't anymore, no :p[10:46:51] <dreamed> heh[10:47:12] <jessicah> sounds intriguing[10:47:20] <dreamed> pros and cons[10:47:38] <dreamed> pros - lighter, no lens vibration, you can see outside the composition in the viewfinder (it has framelines for composing)[10:48:00] <dreamed> cons - mechanical system so the calibration goes out after a while and needs adjusting, you don't see depth of field etc[10:48:32] <dreamed> and it's no good for telephoto or macro[10:48:37] <dreamed> since the viewfinder doesn't zoom[10:48:51] <dreamed> longest lens is 135mm[10:49:06] <dreamed> you also need external finders for wide lenses - hence that enormous black barrel stuck to the top of the camera[10:49:13] <dreamed> (an accessory)[10:49:14] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * f3e4f18be78e46d70a1883f750265a03f4fe0574 :[10:49:14] <CIA-63> Debugging fixes.[10:49:14] <CIA-63> * INT3 had the wrong DPL set in the IDT, could not be raised from[10:49:15] <CIA-63> userland.[10:49:15] <CIA-63> * Need the debug server running.[10:49:38] <dreamed> the lenses are much smaller which is nice[10:50:30] <jessicah> i don't know much about photography, but it would be a nice hobby to get into[10:50:39] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[10:50:50] <jessicah> have managed some good photos with my aging nokia n95 though[10:50:54] <dreamed> I like it heh. my wallet doesn't.[10:51:07] <dreamed> I like quite a few of your landscape shots[10:53:16] <jessicah> pretty much everything on my flickr has been taken with that phone[10:53:50] <dreamed> it's a decent camera[10:54:32] <jessicah> yeah, still works. but needs a new battery[10:55:01] <jessicah> had stopped working for a bit when it fell in a puddle when i had a bike accident[10:55:14] <dreamed> doh[10:55:16] <jessicah> got a nokia n8 through insurance[10:55:28] <jessicah> but i dun like it, or the camera[10:55:30] <dreamed> which is also supposed to have a good camera, from memory[10:55:33] <dreamed> heh[10:55:35] <dreamed> fair enough[10:55:56] <jessicah> it's supposed to be better[10:56:07] <jessicah> but i couldn't get same quality as the n95[10:56:41] <jessicah> my n95 just needed some time to dry out in the end[10:56:52] <jessicah> so still works like a charm[10:57:01] <dreamed> so.. free phone?[10:57:09] <jessicah> yeah :)[10:57:16] <dreamed> noice[10:57:24] <jessicah> i dun like touchscreen phones[10:58:39] <jessicah> they're so gimmicky[10:58:53] <dreamed> I think you just made my iphones sad[11:00:04] <jessicah> took apple like 3 or 4 iphones to catch up to n95 in functionality[11:00:58] <jessicah> really sucks what elop did to nokia[11:01:14] <dreamed> there are improvements that could be made, but mobile safari is win, the gaming is win. the on screen keyboard can bite me, though.[11:01:22] <dreamed> I tried out the meego phone[11:01:25] <dreamed> it's *so* nice[11:01:28] <dreamed> I'm so sad they went winmo[11:01:34] <jessicah> i know[11:01:34] <dreamed> I'm still tempted to buy one[11:01:37] <dreamed> that's how much I liked it[11:01:38] <jessicah> i so want to get an n9[11:02:00] <jessicah> when i have a bit more money again, i think i'll try order one from somewhere[11:02:34] <dreamed> I played with mine at parallel imported .. but they don't seem to stock it now[11:02:37] <dreamed> only the lumia version[11:02:44] <dreamed> which isn't _bad_ exactly[11:03:24] <jessicah> lots of the tech reviews raved about the n9[11:03:36] <dreamed> yep[11:03:45] <jessicah> but it was dead as soon as it got out the door :([11:03:57] <dreamed> before, even :|[11:04:10] <jessicah> well, yeah[11:04:31] <jessicah> if there's one thing i'll hate microsoft for, it'll be the demise of nokia[11:04:40] <dreamed> it wasn't really microsoft's fault[11:04:47] <dreamed> it was nokia's leadership[11:04:58] <dreamed> the really sad thing for me is that I really want to see credible competition for ios[11:05:04] <dreamed> and I'm yet to be convinced that android is it[11:05:04] <jessicah> who was ex-microsoft :p[11:05:10] <dreamed> meego otoh was really nice[11:05:30] <dreamed> gosh[11:05:33] <dreamed> n9s are cheap on trademe[11:05:50] <jessicah> used?[11:05:54] <dreamed> ya[11:05:55] <jessicah> or new?[11:06:05] <dreamed> can't find anywhere selling them new[11:06:08] <jessicah> how cheap?[11:06:10] <dreamed> not that I've looked hard[11:06:33] <jessicah> hmm, that's true[11:06:36] <dreamed> 500, so it's still relative[11:06:39] <dreamed> cheaper than a new iphone[11:06:41] <jessicah> it is kind of old now =/[11:06:58] <dreamed> mm[11:07:03] <dreamed> and the iphone keeps getting os updates[11:07:04] <dreamed> which is nice[11:07:06] <jessicah> i bought my n95 when it was still just under $1000[11:07:07] <jessicah> :p[11:07:10] <dreamed> it sucks that android doesn't[11:07:14] <dreamed> yeah my iphone 4 was like that[11:10:26] <jessicah> i love my phone :D[11:11:07] <dreamed> I use my "phone" mostly for messaging, email, web browsing, gaming and reading[11:11:08] <dreamed> heh[11:11:49] <Tekn0z> galaxy s2 has been around 400 eurs for years now, no idea why[11:12:09] <Tekn0z> anyway, back to work[11:12:12] *** Tekn0z has left #haiku[11:12:22] <jessicah> lol[11:12:35] <dreamed> heh[11:12:39] <dreamed> random[11:13:27] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[11:13:28] <jessicah> i should cook some dinner....[11:13:33] <dreamed> yeah me too[11:17:37] <jessicah> there, some brocolli on the boil[11:17:40] <jessicah> that'll do[11:17:57] <jessicah> not feeling overly hungry[11:21:49] <dreamed> I'm still clearing the kitchen >_>[11:21:56] <dreamed> but I think I'll make refried beans and egg[11:22:34] <jessicah> refried beans are fried fried-beans?[11:22:56] <jessicah> i've never understoof what refried beans are[11:23:03] <jessicah> such a strange name[11:23:17] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.[11:23:31] <jessicah> hello brobostigon![11:23:35] <jessicah> how're you?[11:24:04] <brobostigon> jessicah: hello, not bad, alittle tired, not sleeping properly, very humid and hot nights. and you?[11:25:13] <jessicah> cold, a little tired, making a light dinner whilst waiting for washing to finish, so i can go to bed[11:25:38] <brobostigon> ok, :([11:25:39] <jessicah> and frustrated with my slow/not loading internet[11:26:01] <jessicah> well, not too cold[11:26:16] <jessicah> cold enough to have heater on[11:26:21] <brobostigon> ok.[11:26:41] <brobostigon> we will have 25c and high humidity and pollen here this afternoon.[11:27:04] <jessicah> it's supposed to drop to 3C tonight here[11:27:38] <brobostigon> :([11:28:03] <jessicah> hopefully my cats will sleep on the bed tonight :)[11:28:09] <brobostigon> :)[11:28:13] <brobostigon> insulation.[11:28:34] <jessicah> chocolato usually does[11:28:48] <brobostigon> ah.[11:29:19] <jessicah> rebecca might too[11:29:37] <brobostigon> interesting, todays google translate android app update, can pull text from a picture, and translate it.[11:29:49] <jessicah> i have 6, so if even only half of them do, lots to keep me warm[11:29:50] <jessicah> :)[11:30:20] <brobostigon> :)[11:33:52] <dreamed> fried fried, yes[11:33:55] <dreamed> sorta[11:34:01] <dreamed> you don't really need to do it twice, just do it longer[11:34:37] <jessicah> hmm, cooked my brocolli a couple mins too long[11:34:46] <jessicah> more soft than crunchy =/[11:34:54] <brobostigon> ohwell.[11:35:23] <jessicah> at least not mushy[11:35:40] <brobostigon> i hate when i over cook pasta, and it goes like that.[11:45:22] <kcj> brobostigon: What, not crunchy?[11:45:38] <jessicah> mush[11:46:11] * kcj knows[11:47:52] <jessicah> \o/[11:48:00] <jessicah> washing done, can go to sleep[11:48:16] <dreamed> heh[11:48:23] *** jstressman has quit IRC[11:48:24] <dreamed> dishwasher half loaded with stuff soaking for putting in prior to work[11:48:26] <dreamed> and dinner was good[11:48:53] <brobostigon> jessicah: haha[11:50:17] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[11:50:26] <jstressman> template<class T> ID_INLINE T Max( T x, T y ) { return ( x > y ) ? x : y; }[11:50:30] <jstressman> is that gcc4 type stuff?[11:52:59] <jessicah> it's c++ type stuff[11:53:26] <jessicah> the ID_INLINE must be a macro[11:53:39] *** Postumus has quit IRC[11:59:30] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has quit IRC[12:03:16] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[12:03:17] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has joined #haiku[12:05:31] <jstressman> I'll have to google around...[12:05:43] <jstressman> maybe it's just puking because of some invalid options passed to the compiler...[12:05:54] <jstressman> I'll sort those out and try again and see how it does.[12:05:56] <Anarchos> jstressman this kind of macros are very dangerous .[12:06:18] <jessicah> night night :)[12:06:23] <dreamed> nn[12:06:25] *** adev has joined #haiku[12:06:26] <Anarchos> jstressman if you do TMax (x, ++y), y will be increased two times and can become greater than x.[12:07:23] <jstressman> there's one right after it.[12:08:04] <jstressman> template<class T> ID_INLINE T Min( T x, T y ) { return ( x < y ) ? x : y; }[12:08:41] <jstressman> it's not my code... it's stuff from the Doom3 source.[12:10:12] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[12:12:42] <arfonzo> re-morning, everyone[12:12:56] <arfonzo> jstressman: from ioquake3 to doom3... what are you up to? :)[12:14:41] *** asiekierka_ has joined #haiku[12:15:33] <jstressman> just tinkering.[12:18:40] <arfonzo> Cool. Wish I had more time to do the same, these days.[12:25:44] <arfonzo> Does anyone know whether having a working JDK in Haiku would enable stuff like smjs or another ECMAScript to work, in theory? I did some work a few months ago to try to port spidermonkey and friends, without much success.[12:27:13] *** asiekierka_ has quit IRC[12:30:05] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[12:32:14] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[12:41:55] *** nyl has joined #haiku[12:53:54] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[12:59:01] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[13:20:07] *** shellusr has joined #haiku[13:25:52] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:26:10] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[13:28:20] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[13:33:38] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[13:44:43] <jstressman> yay... replaced the Pe associated files with new icon so that I can tell them apart. :D[13:46:28] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[13:47:55] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/PeIcons1.png[13:49:00] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[13:49:28] <CIA-63> axeld-github.imap: axeld-github * d3059eb807b78f9552f31eca62817564c5c375f6 : Initial work on a class that manages an IMAP folder on disk. [2 commits][13:52:00] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[13:52:45] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:52:45] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[13:52:48] <arfonzo> Another question: has anyone managed to port nspr? I'm stuck at a certain point trying to generate prcpucfg.h[13:58:03] *** Sintendo has joined #haiku[14:02:23] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:02:42] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:04:14] *** rimio has quit IRC[14:04:32] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[14:10:31] *** adev has quit IRC[14:20:41] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[14:20:44] <jstressman> this is clearly way way over my head.[14:20:50] <jstressman> I have no idea what I'm doing. :([14:21:07] <jstressman> I'm getting a bunch of template errors etc and I haven't even learned what templates are yet. :([14:24:39] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:24:43] *** oco has joined #haiku[14:24:58] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:28:03] <Anarchos> jstressman templates are functions from types to classes.[14:28:54] <jstressman> I know functions... haven't gotten to types and classes yet. ;) I'm really really a beginner.[14:29:08] <hamishm> Anarchos: fwiw TMax(x, ++y) wouldn't be problematic[14:29:12] <hamishm> because it's not a macro[14:34:40] <Anarchos> hamishm ok .[14:39:07] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/KYgy1fw8[14:40:30] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/7QWMCeBp[14:40:51] <jstressman> is that some simple fix? or is there something fundamentally wrong that can't be fixed...[14:41:08] <jstressman> because the whole compile pukes all over < chars etc.[14:44:02] *** stargater has joined #haiku[14:44:04] <stargater> re[14:44:09] <stargater> kallisti5: around?[14:44:26] <OmniMancer> jstressman: the failure to find gl.h should be addressed first[14:45:53] *** shellusr has left #haiku[14:50:15] <OmniMancer> jstressman: you are using gcc4 to compile this right?[14:51:02] <jstressman> no. :) is that a requirement?[14:51:29] <OmniMancer> I will say you are unlikely to have much luck with modern C++ code with gcc2[14:51:49] <OmniMancer> it was from a time when the excuses not to use templates to semijustified[14:52:09] <OmniMancer> AFAIK it isn't as good at template code as newer compilers[14:52:26] <OmniMancer> and I suspect some changes from the C++ standard since 2000 will affect it in some ways too[14:54:21] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:54:39] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:59:01] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:00:18] *** kcj has quit IRC[15:06:51] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:07:04] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[15:07:06] <stargater> cu[15:07:09] *** stargater has quit IRC[15:09:06] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:09:12] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[15:10:01] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[15:10:01] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[15:10:45] <jstressman> d3xp/../idlib/../idlib/Lib.h:158:19: error: 'ID_INLINE' does not name a type[15:11:00] <jstressman> now I get about a million of those... from different lines in different files...[15:11:34] <jstressman> switched to compiling with gcc4.[15:11:37] <jstressman> :P[15:15:56] * jstressman reads http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1761018/does-not-name-a-type-in-c[15:27:21] <jstressman> I think I might be on to it...[15:27:28] <jstressman> adding a system definition for haiku..[15:27:39] <jstressman> in sys/sys_public.h[15:27:48] <jstressman> which includes the definition for ID_INLINE[15:32:13] *** fishcooker has joined #haiku[15:32:57] *** _marc` has quit IRC[15:34:42] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[15:39:34] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:44:20] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[15:45:41] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[15:48:23] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[15:51:42] *** Postumus has quit IRC[15:52:25] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[15:52:29] <fishcooker> is there any link to learn haiku[15:52:44] <fishcooker> i want to make terminal as shortcut[15:53:03] <fishcooker> it is not easy to point out the apps[15:53:05] <fishcooker> TT[15:55:16] <fishcooker> can i get the repository of haiku[15:55:46] <Sintendo> what do you mean?[15:56:46] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/sK2JPzn8[15:57:08] <jstressman> ok, it looks like I got to the linking part (after zillions of warnings, but everything looked to compile after several fixes)[15:57:22] <jstressman> but it fails with that error[16:00:29] <mmadia> Fishcooker we've a userguide. A link should be on the desktop and in WebPositives homepage[16:00:50] <mmadia> That should answer some of the initial questions.[16:01:43] <mmadia> And http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building documents building haiku from source.[16:01:46] <arfonzo> mmadia: do you know what's broken with the window decorators in Haiku?[16:01:47] *** Megaf has quit IRC[16:02:01] <arfonzo> Or can point me towards any information on that...[16:02:42] <fishcooker> hmmm bebook take a while before starting my bad...im trying it from vmdk.zip[16:06:11] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[16:07:25] <mmadia> Pulkomandy may know more than me.[16:08:02] *** stpere has joined #haiku[16:08:13] <mmadia> Jstressman there's always haiku-3rdparty-dev to seek help on too[16:10:11] *** slubman has quit IRC[16:10:41] *** slubman has joined #haiku[16:11:55] <jstressman> mmadia: I feel like I would be emabarrassed to ask there because I'm so woefully ignorant.[16:12:12] <jstressman> for instance I'm only on Lesson 7 of Learning to Program with Haiku...[16:12:23] <jstressman> that's the extent of my C++ knowledge.[16:12:45] <jstressman> so I have no good reason to be trying to compile Doom 3. ;) I'm just doing it for fun and trying to work through errors I encounter.[16:14:07] *** fishcooker has left #haiku[16:15:15] <mmadia> Hmmmm... you're right. I didnt realize that coding skills are an innate skill that people are born with ;)[16:15:33] <arfonzo> jstressman: as far as I'm aware, iodoom3 will not work without writing Haiku-specific IO and window code. SDL wasn't all working yet, last I checked.[16:15:56] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[16:17:00] * mmadia adds a second scoop of sarcasm to his comment[16:17:16] <jstressman> I got it ;)[16:18:08] *** nyl has quit IRC[16:19:18] *** petterdass has joined #haiku[16:19:18] *** petterdass is now known as Per_Vers[16:19:39] <jstressman> mmadia: should I just use the pastebin link? or include the actual error text in the email directly?[16:20:18] <Per_Vers> Hello. When might I expect to see the next alpha release? Or beta?[16:20:59] <mmadia> The actual error, this way people dont have to open a browser to see the text.[16:23:36] <mmadia> Tther's an ongoing thread about r1a4 http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/Ready-to-go-for-R1Alpha4-yet,30[16:25:40] <jstressman> am I right in calling that a linker error?[16:26:46] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[16:27:41] *** slubman has quit IRC[16:27:57] *** slubman has joined #haiku[16:30:50] <Per_Vers> thanks.[16:31:01] *** Per_Vers has quit IRC[16:34:29] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[16:36:09] <mmadia> No, that looks like a compiler issue to me.[16:36:26] *** ksx4system has quit IRC[16:36:54] <mmadia> boot/home/Desktop/iodoom3-res/neo/idlib/bv/Frustum_gcc.cpp:37: multiple definition of `idFrustum::ProjectionBounds(idBox const&, idBounds&) const'[16:37:25] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[16:37:25] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[16:37:40] <mmadia> boot/home/Desktop/iodoom3-res/neo/idlib/bv/Frustum.cpp:2054: first defined here[16:38:30] <jstressman> I thought it had already compiled the files, and was now linking all the object files into the libgame.so library.[16:38:48] <jstressman> and in doing so, ran into multiple files that had the same function or whatever in them... and they clashed.[16:38:57] <jstressman> so it was telling you which files did the deed that led to this problem.[16:39:03] <jstressman> that's how I understood it. :/[16:39:45] <jstressman> so I guess the point is; why are two files doing the same thing and both getting included? :)[16:44:22] <arfonzo> perhaps try to undefine the duplicated const def., using #ifdef __HAIKU__ for example.[16:44:34] <mmadia> Err. Yeah, you're right. But its still an issue of something being declared multiple ttines in different spots.[16:44:37] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[16:46:13] <jstressman> I'll try to figure it out... I have to kind of understand what's going on to figure out which one to get rid of etc. :)[16:47:27] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[16:49:16] <mmadia> Yeah. Understand why line 37 is used and then why line 2054 is used fisrt of Frustum.cpp[16:51:19] *** Luko has joined #haiku[16:51:47] <Luko> hi folks[16:52:02] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[16:53:53] *** Guest64541 has joined #haiku[16:53:54] <jstressman> Luko: welcome back.[16:54:08] *** nuclearcowboy has joined #haiku[16:54:12] <Luko> jstressman, whats new ?[16:54:58] <jstressman> fighting with Doom 3. :P[16:55:04] <Luko> :D[16:55:14] *** Sintendo has quit IRC[16:55:22] <Luko> i play in windows Starcraft 1 Broodware[16:55:23] <Luko> :D[16:55:58] <Luko> beste game ever[16:57:00] <jstressman> hehe[16:57:21] *** pseudomind has joined #haiku[16:57:25] <jstressman> I never got into Starcraft. I played some Rise of Nations... that's about about as close as I got to playing any similar game.[16:57:37] <Luko> kallisti5, are you here?[16:59:05] <Luko> i have problem with RadeonHD in linux (open source driver)[16:59:23] <Luko> when i run Ubuntu from CD then is OK but when i reboot to new installed system then[16:59:28] <Luko> i see something like this[16:59:34] <Luko> http://www.lukves.ic.cz/foto/SAM_0381.jpg[16:59:58] <Luko> maybe its linux bug[17:00:54] <Luko> now i remove radeon card from pc and run on Intel HD 2000 (not for gaming but have VA Api for video accel)[17:01:06] <Luko> i need linux[17:01:32] <Luko> Haiku run great on intel like on radeon too[17:01:43] *** fhein has joined #haiku[17:02:07] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has quit IRC[17:05:13] <Anarchos> Luko i still have problems with my radeon_hd[17:07:05] *** modeenf has quit IRC[17:08:16] <kallisti5> Luko: wrong irc :)[17:08:39] <kallisti5> Luko: You may want to try #ubuntu[17:08:57] <kallisti5> Anarchos: yeah. i updated my matrix.. 7xxx is now a no-go[17:09:05] <kallisti5> http://haikungfu.net/?page=radeon_hd[17:09:16] <kallisti5> it's on my very long todo list :D[17:09:32] <hamishm> jstressman: on line 2047 of Frustum.cpp you have to add haiku to that if !defined directive[17:09:46] <kallisti5> Anarchos: if you have a DisplayPort adapter, i'd try that.. seems DP works better than normal connectors atm[17:09:47] <hamishm> i.e. #if !defined(__linux__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && !defined(__HAIKU__)[17:10:11] <Anarchos> kallisti5 it is a laptop, i don't know what is DP anyway[17:11:01] *** GuestOne has joined #haiku[17:11:29] <hamishm> why there are two identical definitions of the function I have no idea..[17:12:37] <jstressman> it has something todo with the scons build script I think...[17:12:55] *** GuestOne has quit IRC[17:12:56] <kallisti5> Anarchos: ahhh.. you're prob in the same boat as me then[17:13:11] <kallisti5> Anarchos: as such, hopefully a solution is near :)[17:13:12] <jstressman> there's a section at the end of sys/scons/SConscript.idlib that includes it... (the _gcc.cpp one)[17:13:44] <Anarchos> kallisti5 what do you mean by this cryptic happy ending sentence ?[17:13:51] *** luroh has joined #haiku[17:14:36] <Anarchos> kallisti5 mine is a Radeon HD[17:14:37] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/Mkbv2Tr8[17:14:38] <Anarchos> 6250[17:14:53] <jstressman> the end of that file includes it for some reason when building the library it looks like?[17:15:21] <jstressman> I'm trying to figure out what it's actually doing and why... if scons is at fault rather than the other code.[17:15:48] <jezek2> Luko: oh I thought it's the new ubuntu design ;)[17:16:19] <hamishm> there might be a good reason for it[17:16:22] *** mmadia has quit IRC[17:16:41] <hamishm> either way to easiest way to solve it would be to just add __HAIKU__ to the ifdef above the function in Frustum.cpp[17:16:41] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:16:41] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:16:51] <jstressman> I'll try that.[17:23:21] <Luko> i am here,, thats true its linux problem, itry ask only for that that you kallisti5 are radeon specialist and i want know what do you think[17:23:33] <Luko> this problem i have in other linux distros too[17:23:46] <Luko> and only with Dsub VGA, HDMI works[17:24:01] <Luko> i do not use pripiertary driver[17:24:19] *** pseudomind has quit IRC[17:24:29] <jstressman> hamishm: shouldn't #if !defined (__linux__) || !defined(__HAIKU__) work?[17:24:33] <Luko> i must go, bye[17:24:34] <jstressman> I had to use && instead...[17:24:40] <jstressman> and then it had another error...[17:24:50] <hamishm> doesn't the original line read #if !defined(__linux__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) ?[17:25:02] *** Luko has quit IRC[17:25:16] <hamishm> why not do #if !defined(__linux__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && !defined(__HAIKU__) ?[17:25:21] <hamishm> then you don't break the build for FreeBSD...[17:25:34] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/sH2fdbMR[17:25:56] <jstressman> there's no FreeBSD stuff in the one I'm working on... :/[17:26:18] <jstressman> let me grab the normal one again...[17:26:24] <hamishm> oh ok I'm looking at the source on some github fork[17:26:33] <jstressman> which one?[17:26:48] <hamishm> this here https://github.com/albertz/iodoom3/blob/master/neo/idlib/bv/Frustum.cpp[17:26:52] <jstressman> I'm using http://git.iodoom.org/~eviljoel/iodoom3/iodoom3-resolutiondetection[17:26:58] <hamishm> but that's just out of convenience[17:27:13] <hamishm> but yeah it needs to be &&[17:27:22] <jstressman> let me grab the albertz one.[17:27:34] <hamishm> I wouldn't bother if I were you..[17:27:53] <hamishm> but yeah it needs to be &&[17:28:16] <hamishm> if not linux or not haiku == if true or false == if true[17:28:37] <hamishm> if not linux AND not haiku == if true and false == if false[17:29:30] <jstressman> http://git.iodoom.org/iodoom3/iodoom3/blobs/master/neo/idlib/bv/Frustum.cpp[17:29:35] <jstressman> see, the iodoom folks don't have that.[17:29:57] <hamishm> very well[17:30:13] *** dcase has joined #haiku[17:30:24] <hamishm> your next error comes from the fact that Haiku doesn't have ldd[17:30:28] <jstressman> I wonder what all these different forks have in them. :P[17:32:25] <hamishm> to fix you'd have to rewrite checkLDD to use objdump or something[17:32:28] <hamishm> http://git.iodoom.org/iodoom3/iodoom3/blobs/master/neo/sys/scons/scons_utils.py#line101[17:32:59] <kallisti5> Anarchos: yeah.. that is the same card my laptop has.[17:33:29] <kallisti5> the pain comes in because those 6xxx APU's use a DisplayPort -> LVDS bridge called travis[17:33:59] <kallisti5> there are 3-4 encoders that have to be programmed with the right clock frequencies to function[17:34:07] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[17:34:40] <kallisti5> Either way... it *will* work at some point.. just a question of when I can finally figure it out :)[17:37:23] *** _marc` has quit IRC[17:42:45] *** Luko has joined #haiku[17:48:05] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/nc7pGyVW[17:48:13] <jstressman> any idea what all those warnings are for?[17:48:32] <jstressman> under the OS defines section, there's a define for that... just says "#define __cdecl"[17:48:54] <jstressman> that's in sys/sys_public.h like it says.[17:49:18] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 2431c4521c4e3a2fb15d3440ee10ebc68c081bce : nfs4: Make idmapper initialization lazy[17:49:52] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[17:58:54] *** mmadia has quit IRC[18:00:27] <Anarchos> kallisti5 i am not skilled at all in video card drivers. there is a tutorial of rudolf cornelissen by the way, but i am sure you know it :)[18:09:38] *** niag has joined #haiku[18:10:30] <hamishm> jstressman: I don't really know why it's redefined empty[18:10:37] <hamishm> I think __cdecl is the default calling convention anyway[18:11:16] <niag> hello guys how is going on for alpha4? there are prevision for a deploy?[18:13:11] <jstressman> hamishm: I'm building from the albertz source you were looking at.... got to a different error now. :)[18:13:19] <jstressman> after applying all my other patches.[18:14:03] <hamishm> that __cdecl thing isn't an error, it's a warning[18:14:10] <hamishm> you can probably ignore it[18:14:16] *** TimKack has quit IRC[18:14:16] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/YErAWfcB[18:14:41] <jstressman> hamishm: I was ignoring it... it just came up a LOT... would be nice to clear the noise from the compile log. ;)[18:15:25] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[18:17:30] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[18:18:12] *** letharion has quit IRC[18:19:06] <hamishm> that's opengl extension stuff... don't know if we have it on Haiku[18:22:05] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[18:22:36] *** letharion has joined #haiku[18:25:53] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[18:29:08] *** stpere has quit IRC[18:30:13] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[18:30:57] <jstressman> replied to the email on the list with it.[18:38:12] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[18:41:49] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:42:40] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[18:47:47] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[18:49:19] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 8afd81bae22fa09e14593b6fd5dd07695604a77c : nfs4: Fix mounting server's root directory[18:54:50] <jstressman> I put a little #ifndef around the __cdecl stuff to stop all the warnings. Hopefully that doesn't break anything.[18:54:56] <jstressman> much quieter output now. ;)[18:55:08] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:57:31] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[18:57:43] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[18:58:56] <Lelldorin1> hello all[18:58:59] <Anarchos> hi Lelldorin1[18:59:02] <jstressman> hello :)[19:00:10] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[19:01:54] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[19:04:16] *** asiekierka has joined #haiku[19:05:01] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[19:11:56] <jstressman> used another #ifdef to get around the GL error...[19:12:11] <jstressman> now I've hit an X11 error... and I think that's a show stopper for the moment, since there is no X11.[19:12:50] <asiekierka> There is X11?[19:12:54] <asiekierka> GTK works using it[19:14:18] *** Hiryu has joined #haiku[19:14:28] <Hiryu> how do I list all the jam targets?[19:14:40] <jstressman> asiekierka: on Haiku? Not that I know of. ;)[19:15:07] <Hiryu> I want to build a usb image[19:15:08] <asiekierka> I saw one on haikuware[19:15:15] <Hiryu> I already know how to do the CD image[19:16:24] <jstressman> Hiryu: sorry I can't help with that. :([19:18:00] <arfonzo> Hiryu: i think you can use @nightly-anyboot, for example.[19:19:53] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:22:37] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[19:23:11] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:23:12] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:24:07] *** Megaf has quit IRC[19:24:15] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:26:36] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[19:28:24] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[19:31:44] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:32:05] *** stpere has joined #haiku[19:34:04] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[19:38:45] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:40:48] *** asiekierka has quit IRC[19:40:54] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[19:43:37] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[19:43:37] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[19:48:40] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[19:49:38] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 4b8a51c34c81f8623fb5eb99e4be9ad606a56044 :[19:49:38] <CIA-63> Fixed incorrect sizeof in LinkReceiver::ReadRegion. 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This fixes the[19:49:39] <CIA-63> drawing problems on x86_64.[19:49:40] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 2314d073afc14b7a0e5a1eb27925658b9f2cc212 : nfs4: Inode::GetDirSnapshot should not require OpenDirCookie[19:53:18] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[19:53:47] <Skipp_OSX> whoa, TextMate 2 open sourced...[19:53:54] <Skipp_OSX> I did not see that coming[19:58:37] <Hiryu> arfonzo: thanks![20:02:21] <arfonzo> Hiryu: you're welcome[20:02:39] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[20:02:48] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[20:02:48] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[20:03:46] *** Megaf has quit IRC[20:04:59] *** cebulon has joined #haiku[20:09:36] <CIA-63> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r2011 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/schroedinger/schroedinger-1.0.11.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/2011 : Updated schroedinger to add pkg-config and orc as build dependencies, this fixes #613.[20:11:55] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[20:19:07] *** [r4] has quit IRC[20:21:37] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[20:21:47] <waveshaper> hello[20:22:08] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[20:27:45] <jstressman> waveshaper: hello :)[20:29:16] <waveshaper> greetings :)[20:29:30] <waveshaper> I itch for developing something for haiku[20:29:51] <waveshaper> but I never have any energy over as I work as a developer aswell[20:30:28] <waveshaper> and this project could do with some audio apps right :p[20:31:28] <stpere> hi waveshaper[20:32:48] <waveshaper> hello stpere[20:33:42] <waveshaper> is the mediakit mailing list still active btw ?[20:34:16] <stpere> hmm, not sure (I'm admittely not subscribed to that one)[20:34:28] <stpere> I would recommend writing do -development instead[20:35:01] <stpere> it probably still exists, but other devs might be in the same situation as I just am[20:36:07] <waveshaper> hehe. my plan was to just make a sequencer and then get back to composing music :p[20:36:20] <PulkoMandy> :)[20:36:44] <stpere> that would be great :)[20:36:52] <PulkoMandy> the OS still needs some tuning work in the audio area, but for non-real time performance it should be ok[20:36:57] <PulkoMandy> and we need apps anyway :)[20:37:12] <stpere> yes, apps tend to shake bugs :P[20:37:29] <waveshaper> mhm. and if someone develop and app that starts stressing parts like that then it might push me into doing some help for haiku os aswell[20:37:38] *** cebulon has quit IRC[20:37:39] <waveshaper> I do feel bad about not doing that already :p[20:37:46] <stpere> that's the beauty of opensource[20:38:06] <stpere> you develop, something doesn't seem to work right, you search for the component source code, get curious, etc..[20:38:07] <waveshaper> I dont know much about OS dev but I know alot about audio development[20:38:59] <PulkoMandy> well, you shouldn't need to tinker with the kernel[20:39:01] <PulkoMandy> (for now)[20:39:33] <PulkoMandy> anyway, feel free to ask if you need some help, we can likely point you in the right direction[20:39:38] <waveshaper> I have been scanning the code for the media kit though hehe[20:40:16] <waveshaper> what kind of setup does most of you have when developing for haiku os ?[20:40:31] <PulkoMandy> a computer :)[20:40:32] <waveshaper> vm based or a real hardware setup ?[20:40:34] <waveshaper> hehe[20:40:43] <waveshaper> not morse code ?[20:40:44] <waveshaper> :p[20:40:49] <PulkoMandy> I run it native, but a vm would work as well[20:41:06] <waveshaper> mhm[20:41:12] <PulkoMandy> if you develop an app, it's easier to do it from inside haiku[20:41:17] <Skipp_OSX> waveshaper, well, if you are going to develop an audio app for Haiku, it would be easiest to develop in Haiku itself[20:41:31] <PulkoMandy> for developping the OS itself, some people prefer doing it in a vm and build the os from linux[20:41:31] <stpere> definitely[20:41:33] <Skipp_OSX> So you could run in a vm, but running on real hardware would be better[20:41:34] <waveshaper> Skipp_OSX: mhm.[20:41:50] <waveshaper> I have a mercurial repo so that makes it easy[20:42:17] <waveshaper> I can easily pull down code there and if the haiku os installation goes poff then Ill just reinstall and continue[20:42:21] <waveshaper> so that could work well[20:42:22] <PulkoMandy> make sure your soundcard has a working driver before starting[20:42:53] <waveshaper> then one on my lap has. I test haiku on it all the time. standard AC'97 works for now[20:43:07] <PulkoMandy> ok, good :)[20:43:15] <waveshaper> ah crap. Ill just jump on it :p[20:43:22] <waveshaper> no need to talk about it anymore[20:43:27] <waveshaper> make a simple wave player first[20:43:48] <waveshaper> Ive got sources from my old module players I could port aswell[20:43:56] <PulkoMandy> :)[20:44:04] <waveshaper> play my old 4chn modules :p[20:44:16] <waveshaper> it will be painfull[20:44:50] <PulkoMandy> well, APlayer should play these files already, I started updating it from BeOS sources but I have to make a release still[20:45:08] <waveshaper> nice. you also code module players?[20:45:11] <waveshaper> :)[20:45:14] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[20:45:23] <PulkoMandy> well, I didn't touch the mod player code yet[20:45:31] <PulkoMandy> http://pulkomandy.tk/projects/[20:45:40] <PulkoMandy> there's APlayer and Sawteeth here in the music area[20:46:08] <waveshaper> nice. Lynxtracker :)[20:46:14] <PulkoMandy> mh[20:46:17] <waveshaper> I love that tiny console[20:46:22] <PulkoMandy> this one never got very far[20:46:48] <waveshaper> my sequencer project is a tracker basically[20:46:51] <PulkoMandy> but I should do something similar in Sawteeth some day[20:47:09] <PulkoMandy> (too much running project to manage... :))[20:47:20] <waveshaper> all these written by you ?[20:47:39] <PulkoMandy> not completely[20:47:56] <PulkoMandy> Sawteeth and APlayer are BeOS software, the original authors stopped working on them[20:48:05] <waveshaper> ah ok[20:48:18] <PulkoMandy> I just made them work again on Haiku and I'm fixing some bugs and improving the UI for now[20:48:34] <PulkoMandy> but I plan to add some improvements to Sawteeth engine some day[20:49:04] <waveshaper> I have only briefly tried to make a soft synth[20:49:08] <PulkoMandy> I also made some changes to APlayer to use the media kit in Haiku to decode mp3 and ogg files instead of relying on its own libs[20:49:15] <waveshaper> I needed a demo for my plugin system[20:49:20] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * e963289800007e623f4a120b27e7bd476230f57f : Added Tracker and Deskbar to x86_64 build.[20:49:22] <CIA-63> pdziepak-github.nfs4: pdziepak-github * 29fb3a4af2fdd3fe1ac4a0824d83783eb1e8ad45 : nfs4: Fix receiving from stream transport protocols[20:49:23] <waveshaper> but it was very simple :)[20:50:03] <waveshaper> media kit, I havent tried to output sound with it but it seems from what I can remember in beos pretty easy[20:50:07] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[20:50:24] <waveshaper> you setup a producer and consumer node. some format setup between and starts sending[20:50:29] <waveshaper> did you need to setup any buffers?[20:50:31] <PulkoMandy> yes[20:50:42] <PulkoMandy> well, depends which API you use :)[20:51:04] <waveshaper> one thing that I always loved about media kit was that it supports float formats[20:51:14] <waveshaper> this was something It hink beos was first at[20:51:23] <PulkoMandy> if you have Haiku sourcecode around you can look at src/bin/playsound/[20:51:28] <waveshaper> and compared to win hehe. it was heaven[20:51:30] <PulkoMandy> there are 3 apps playing sounds in different ways[20:51:39] <waveshaper> ah cheers[20:51:40] <waveshaper> noted[20:57:13] <Skipp_OSX> now, the main stumbling block I see right now on audio for Haiku is that we need an Intel HDA driver[20:57:42] <Skipp_OSX> I realize that is not something you are looking to tackle, but, it is a stumbling block[20:58:19] <waveshaper> I have looked abit into it actually. I did back in the old dos days a module player that directly used the Gravis Ultrasound card if anyone remember that card[20:58:30] <waveshaper> that involved mostly turbo pascal and assembler code[20:58:51] * jstressman remembers.[20:59:06] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[20:59:09] *** Xcyish has quit IRC[20:59:12] <waveshaper> what I lack is the framework understanding of haiku os drivers I guess. but if Im not to wrong on this its a set of callbacks[20:59:25] <waveshaper> init, deinit, some transfer functions and so forth[20:59:51] <PulkoMandy> yes[20:59:58] <PulkoMandy> open, close, read, write, and ioctl[21:00:06] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[21:00:23] <waveshaper> brb.someone wants a footballs stream setup :)[21:02:47] *** _marc` has quit IRC[21:10:17] *** mikaelj_ has quit IRC[21:10:36] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[21:11:29] <CIA-63> haiku.master: scottmc * hrev44504 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=6ac7788 : Added a Public Domain generic text file.[21:11:38] <dreamed> morning[21:16:24] *** Cian has joined #haiku[21:17:07] *** tic has joined #haiku[21:22:29] <Hiryu> does haiku support TRIM?[21:23:31] <Hiryu> looking at the commit log, it seems not[21:24:07] <Hiryu> seems just some of the groundwork has been laid[21:24:43] <dreamed> we had this discussion a few days ago I think[21:25:15] <Hiryu> I wasn't in this channel a few days ago[21:25:36] <dreamed> I'm not suggesting you should've been - just finding it interesting that it's come up twice in fairly quick succession[21:25:42] <Hiryu> ah[21:25:58] <Hiryu> I was feeling bored and thinking about sticking haiku on my laptop[21:26:03] <Hiryu> I'll need to hold off for now[21:26:14] <Hiryu> and just stick to using virtualbox :)[21:30:59] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[21:31:17] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[21:31:52] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev44505 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=8d9d556 :[21:31:52] <CIA-63> urlwrapper: add support for nfs: URI scheme[21:31:52] <CIA-63> Now that NFSv4 almost works, add support for handling nfs: urls to urlwrapper.[21:31:52] <CIA-63> Should later be replaced by a better solution but it works for the time being.[21:32:32] <Hiryu> how does idmapd working in haiku? Do you select a username to map to or something?[21:35:18] <Hiryu> idmapd for NFSv4 I mean[21:37:55] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev44506 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=6adbfc1 : Add an nfs: URI description to the MIME database[21:47:19] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:47:37] *** idefix_gromit has quit IRC[21:49:09] *** bbjimmy-at-home has joined #haiku[21:49:23] <CIA-63> ahenriksson-github.production: ahenriksson-github * 86611e9a7098570ddafc97c278341dc39e65e8d6 : Change size of the KPartition [9 commits][21:52:09] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[21:52:09] *** bbjimmy-at-home is now known as bbjimmy[21:52:11] <Cian> did someone change the colour of expanded apps in the Deskbar to dark grey recently or is there something else odd with my build?[21:54:20] * luroh fires up a vm to check[21:55:49] *** juaa_ has quit IRC[21:55:50] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[21:58:48] <stpere> Cian, it might be following leavengood changes[21:58:50] <luroh> Cian: looks the same here, slightly darker than the main entry[21:59:14] <stpere> it's now respecting some color choice in Appearence preflet I think[21:59:23] <stpere> not sure[21:59:48] <luroh> by 'the same', i mean the same as it always looks[22:03:08] <luroh> ( http://imagebin.org/223966 )[22:04:24] <dreamed> that's how it's always looked to me[22:05:07] <Cian> mine is significantly darker[22:05:17] <Cian> luroh's matches what I'm used to[22:06:52] <Skipp_OSX> some of the colors changed a bit yes I believe[22:07:07] <Skipp_OSX> I know that the selected menu item color is a bit darker[22:07:21] <Skipp_OSX> the reason is that it is coming from the value in Appearance preferences now.[22:07:43] <luroh> but, i'm on the latest rev here[22:11:39] *** nuclearcowboy has quit IRC[22:12:54] <Cian> rather buggered VM then I suspect[22:16:43] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[22:20:20] <CIA-63> HaikuPorts: cian * r2012 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/vigra/ (. vigra-1.8.0.bep) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/2012 : Add Vigra, a "computer vision" library. 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