August 2, 2012 
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August 2, 2012 [00:00:04] <korli> jessicah, OK please attach it[00:01:00] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[00:01:06] <jessicah> done[00:06:29] *** letharion has quit IRC[00:06:35] *** letharion has joined #haiku[00:07:49] <CIA-63> haiku.master: korli * hrev44455 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=da2f473 :[00:07:50] <CIA-63> Preserve state of lock keys when keymap is loaded.[00:07:50] <CIA-63> Signed-off-by: Axel Dörfler <axeld at pinc-software dot de>[00:08:10] <jessicah> \o/[00:08:24] <jessicah> my first teeeeeny patch landed =^.^=[00:09:23] <stpere> :)[00:09:34] <luroh> may it live long and prosper[00:14:17] <jstressman> jessicah: woot! thank you :D[00:16:40] <HENKiE> nice w0rk[00:19:04] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:19:10] <korli> bye[00:19:17] *** korli has quit IRC[00:19:24] <jessicah> :o[00:19:28] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[00:21:12] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:21:12] *** petterhj_ has joined #haiku[00:24:27] *** petterhj has quit IRC[00:34:45] *** netstar has joined #haiku[00:35:36] *** kcj has joined #haiku[00:35:43] *** petterhj_ has quit IRC[00:48:34] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega[away][00:50:25] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[01:11:31] *** stpere has quit IRC[01:14:17] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[01:17:03] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[01:17:25] <jstressman> http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-August/005478.html[01:17:28] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[01:17:35] <jstressman> for the Qt lovers in the house.[01:24:01] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:24:22] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[01:34:02] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:34:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:42:41] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:48:26] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[01:53:56] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[01:55:31] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[02:04:32] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[02:06:20] *** bottles has joined #haiku[02:06:23] *** adri has quit IRC[02:06:34] *** adri has joined #haiku[02:06:52] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[02:07:08] *** Jessica_Lily has joined #haiku[02:07:08] *** Jessica_Lily has joined #haiku[02:13:44] *** Postumus has quit IRC[02:15:23] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[02:15:27] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:15:36] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[02:15:56] *** Jessica_Lily has quit IRC[02:18:28] *** Barrett has quit IRC[02:25:04] *** Jessica_Lily has joined #haiku[02:29:01] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[02:29:13] *** strdog has joined #haiku[02:39:36] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[02:46:22] <jstressman> http://pastebin.com/ss8insTH[02:47:04] <jstressman> reaffirms a few of the complaints about the current UI.[02:47:41] <jstressman> tiny/unintuitive window controls, nothing to show the the blue leaf is the main system menu, applications buried under several levels at the bottom of the main menu.[02:48:53] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[02:49:03] <jessicah> lol[02:49:22] <jessicah> you can't figure out the blue leaf is the system menu?[02:49:25] <jessicah> that's just silly[02:50:12] <jessicah> and you get used to it pretty fast...[02:51:54] <jessicah> figured out how to quit in less than a minute[02:52:05] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[02:52:07] <jessicah> i've had more problems with remotes and controls on appliances before[02:52:07] <jstressman> once you know where the menu is.[02:52:26] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:52:29] <jstressman> I mean you can possibly guess... but there's nothing to show a new user (who wasn't a Be user) that it's the MAIN menu.[02:52:40] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:52:52] <jessicah> it's about the same size as the old "start" button of windows[02:52:58] <jessicah> should be an easy guess[02:53:01] <jstressman> the old Start button said START on it.[02:53:09] <jstressman> and I think even had a little animation telling you to start there.[02:53:16] <jstressman> no guesswork involved.[02:53:25] <jessicah> so add an animation at first boot[02:53:29] <jessicah> fixed :)[02:53:37] <jstressman> I'm just pointing out what a new user had trouble with.[02:53:45] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[02:53:59] <jessicah> i guess[02:54:11] <jstressman> (8:51:11 PM) Geronimo: oh. that blue thing was the start menu? ...[02:55:08] <jessicah> personally, i would like to see clicking opening a tracker window disabled by default[02:55:17] <jessicah> should just ignore/open menu[02:55:24] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[02:55:35] <jstressman> in the menu? definitely. I hate that "feature".[02:55:56] <jstressman> how often is a user just going to want to navigate the menu? versus the rare time they actually intend to open the menu as a folder?[02:56:18] <jstressman> I run into that all the time... and I've had to try to learn to work around it, and I STILL run into it.[02:56:48] <jstressman> sometimes I honestly use it just because it's less of a pain in the arse to just open it as a folder and use that, than to try navigate the click mine of a menu again.[02:56:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:57:02] <jessicah> the quirky beos inheritance :)[02:57:38] <jstressman> further, the "close" button is a gigantic 12x12 pixels. about the size of an M on an average page of text.[02:58:07] <jstressman> even the shrunk down Win7 buttons are ~32x18 these days. and even that feels a tad small to me.[02:58:13] <jessicah> you have titlebar text. so the size of the close button is kinda irrelevant[02:58:23] <jessicah> since the title bar text being smaller would be too hard to read[02:58:51] <jessicah> oh you mean it's too small?[02:59:05] <jstressman> XP was 21x21[02:59:23] <jessicah> XP was ugly too[02:59:23] <jstressman> the point being that on modern screens it's a tiny target.[02:59:32] <jstressman> that had nothing to do with the size of the buttons.[02:59:39] <jstressman> aside from your subjective opinion on the matter. ;)[02:59:52] <jessicah> oh, right. i forget my screen isn't at native res =/[02:59:55] <jstressman> using the media center theme on it made it look sharp.[03:00:05] <jessicah> so the close button looks bigger than what it'd actually be[03:00:09] <jstressman> with essentially the same sizes on everything.[03:00:12] <[JJ]Albert> Woohoo.[03:00:13] <jstressman> the default theme was just ugly.[03:00:22] <[JJ]Albert> I'm on my new computer. :D[03:00:28] <jstressman> [JJ]Albert: congrats. :D[03:00:29] <[JJ]Albert> That I built.[03:00:53] <[JJ]Albert> In 2 days no less. The CPU arrived in the mail.[03:00:56] <jessicah> jstressman: i don't think it's an issue of the close button being too small[03:01:07] <jessicah> as it is an issue of *everything* being too small[03:01:20] <jstressman> jessicah: I agree.[03:01:39] <dreamed> the ui is definitely too small on a modern screen[03:01:58] <dreamed> using it on my 17" mbp is hilarious - 1920x1280 res[03:02:06] <jstressman> dreamed: hahaha yeah :P[03:02:08] <jessicah> unfortunately, i can't get native screen res on my test machine[03:02:20] <jstressman> I'm only at 1600x1200 on a 22"[03:02:21] <jessicah> dreamed: haiku boots on your mbp?[03:02:26] <jstressman> it's not bad for me.[03:02:32] <jstressman> but I've seen other people have trouble with it.[03:02:46] <jessicah> i'm at 1280x1024 on a 22" widescreen display. the menu looks tiny[03:03:00] <jessicah> but i'm also like 1.5m away from the screen atm[03:03:05] <jstressman> (I've misclicked a few times like on closing Web+ tabs etc... which was a pain, since we lack tab close undo still.... but that's about it.)[03:03:06] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:03:31] <jstressman> jessicah: yeah, i sit about .5m away from the screen. ;)[03:04:17] <jessicah> but given that the pixel size is bigger than native with such a low res, i should be able to see more easily at this distance[03:04:58] <jessicah> also, text size of labels should increase when icon size increased, imo[03:05:07] <jessicah> for desktop at least[03:05:16] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/800px-width-preview11.png[03:05:21] <jstressman> I thought XP looked good with that theme.[03:05:30] <dreamed> jessicah: running in vmware[03:05:31] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/newjls-preview63.png[03:05:33] <jstressman> or that one.[03:05:35] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[03:05:56] <jessicah> dreamed: in full screen?[03:05:56] <jstressman> both of those are native ones from MS. just released after XP.[03:06:30] <jessicah> jstressman: still not a fan :p[03:06:59] <jstressman> you're welcome to your opinion.[03:07:28] <dreamed> yep[03:07:58] <jstressman> I prefer the clean look and feel of Haiku. But I don't like the tabs for titlebars, I don't like the ambiguity of the controls. I don't like how small they are. I don't like the obfuscation of the main menu and window list that requires several extra clicks to do anything productive, thus making it unproductive...[03:08:00] <jstressman> things like that.[03:09:05] <jstressman> I'm sure down the road someone will develop a way to increase the font sizes in things... the window control sizes, etc.[03:09:19] <jstressman> or maybe even just scale things up a bit by default to get with the times.[03:09:30] <jstressman> (along with the ability to further adjust if so desired)[03:10:27] <hamishm> can't you increase font sizes in the fonts preflet?[03:11:28] *** ablyss has quit IRC[03:19:02] <jessicah> i like launchbox[03:19:33] <jessicah> i wonder if spicykeys still works[03:21:09] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[03:21:53] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[03:23:22] <augiedoggie> spicykeys is integrated into the system as "Shortcuts"[03:24:51] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[03:24:53] <jstressman> hamishm: well, under Appearance, but you are correct.[03:24:59] <jstressman> and it sizes the controls up with the font size.[03:25:17] <jstressman> so I spoke mostly out of ignorance on the title bar issue. ;)[03:25:49] * augiedoggie speaks out of ignorance on all issues[03:26:14] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[03:26:23] <jstressman> but that's not for the titlebar specifically... just for any bold font anywhere in the system or whatever.[03:26:44] <jstressman> and those prefs don't affect the deskbar etc. so it's not really a direct solution per se.[03:28:29] <hamishm> maybe deskbar requires a restart for the font sizes to take effect?[03:28:32] <hamishm> but that's just a guess[03:30:57] <jstressman> yeah. I set them all to 18 and restarted[03:30:59] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[03:31:00] <jstressman> everything is big now.[03:31:05] *** macaroni has joined #haiku[03:33:08] <jessicah> hehe[03:34:06] <Jessica_Lily> Hey folks[03:35:05] <jessicah> hey jessica :)[03:35:19] <Jessica_Lily> how are you?[03:35:30] <jessicah> i'm doing better today :)[03:35:34] <jessicah> how're you?[03:36:11] <jessicah> did you find out if you'll be able to contribute a na'vi translation to haiku?[03:36:23] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/filenames2.png[03:37:00] <Jessica_Lily> jessicah: I'm doing okay thanks, I did I got a reply they said yes but then I emailed them asking how/when I could start and haven't got one back[03:38:41] <Sikosis> curious if anyone else noticed this -> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/apps_i_use_haiku_openjdk#comment-23663[03:39:07] <jessicah> jstressman: lol[03:39:37] <augiedoggie> Sikosis: you could ping hamishm about that[03:39:40] <jstressman> you can't see a full filename on Haiku unless you actually rename the file.[03:40:03] <jstressman> slow double click or F2 etc.[03:40:27] <hamishm> it's certainly not by design[03:40:33] <Sikosis> ah augiedoggie ... didn't see him there ...[03:40:44] <Sikosis> sure[03:40:46] <hamishm> I've run multiple apps before, but there might be a regression[03:40:51] <hamishm> I'll give it a test[03:41:09] <Sikosis> much appreciated[03:41:17] <jstressman> last one for now http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/FittsLawwindowcontrols3.png[03:42:56] <dreamed> you should compare it to osx[03:43:05] <dreamed> it'd be funny - the widgets on it are quite small in lion[03:44:08] <hamishm> multiple apps is OK here so it's something specific about those applications[03:44:09] *** ablyss has quit IRC[03:46:22] *** macaroni has quit IRC[03:46:41] <jessicah> jstressman: heh, imagine haiku on a mbp retina display :p[03:47:25] <Sikosis> hamishm: could it be the way I'm launching them ? i wrote a bash script to use the export lib stuff and then java -jar <application> ?[03:48:22] <jstressman> the OSX ones are about the same size, maybe a few pixels bigger. I don't know the exact hot spot size. but they're like 12x12 at the very minimum if you ignore the slight glow around them to show the indent. otherwise they're 14x14 or so at least.[03:48:46] * dreamed nods[03:48:54] <dreamed> they used to be bigger[03:48:55] <dreamed> tiger's were[03:49:04] <hamishm> no that shouldn't be a problem[03:49:14] <hamishm> I'm going to give it a try with those apps and see what happens[03:49:39] <jstressman> hrm... about the same it looks like... and Haiku actually looks a lot bigger because it's square vs round.[03:49:42] <jstressman> so it has more area.[03:50:10] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[03:50:30] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/FittsLawwindowcontrols4.png[03:50:52] <dreamed> mmhmm[03:51:36] <jstressman> that's on Lion or Mountain Lion.[03:51:55] <jstressman> 10.8, which I think is Mountain Lion.[03:52:01] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:52:15] <Sikosis> yep thats ML[03:52:47] <jstressman> tiger looks the same size.[03:52:50] <jstressman> identical.[03:53:37] <jstressman> they're all 11x11 px circles.[03:53:58] <dreamed> eh[03:53:59] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:54:08] <dreamed> the tiger ones take up more of the titlebar[03:54:39] <dreamed> though no shadow/glow around them[03:56:13] <jessicah> see! they're not that small :p[03:56:14] <jessicah> hehe[03:56:42] <hamishm> Sikosis: jomic and mucommander run at the same time here[03:56:45] <jessicah> also, what is the top one? vista?[03:56:55] <jessicah> it's not standard windows 7 here[03:56:58] <hamishm> though I set up the environment variables in the console and then used the provided shell scripts[03:56:59] <jstressman> maybe these are small size buttons or something...[03:57:02] <jstressman> let me find more shots.[03:57:38] <Sikosis> hamishm: ill try that thanks[03:57:42] <dreamed> I don't have too much issue with the window widgets in haiku personally[03:57:46] <dreamed> it's the rest of the ui I have trouble with[03:57:49] <dreamed> deskbar especially[03:57:59] <jessicah> what's wrong with deskbar?[03:58:05] <jessicah> i drag it to bottom, seems better[03:58:12] <jstressman> Leopard were 14x14 minimum it looks like.[03:58:51] <jstressman> jessicah: the top is Win7 non-Aero.[03:59:05] <jessicah> oh[03:59:31] <dreamed> jessicah: navigating the thing with it in default orientation mostly. I drag it to the top. ;)[03:59:40] <jessicah> the non-aero theme differs quite a lot[03:59:44] <dreamed> although also navigating the small sub menus[03:59:51] <jessicah> close button is wider[03:59:59] <jessicah> the other two seem slightly narrower[04:00:48] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[04:04:38] <jstressman> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/phreadom/FittsLawwindowcontrols7.png[04:04:43] <jstressman> the bottom is Win7 Aero.[04:05:53] <jstressman> all great except it would be better to put the close on the left and the other two on the right.[04:06:09] <jstressman> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/03/the-opposite-of-fitts-law.html[04:07:09] <dreamed> I wonder why ms didn't have the widgets sized consistently between aero and not aero[04:07:19] <dreamed> possibly they're just painting gdi stuff on the old one, or something sad like that[04:08:54] <dreamed> heh so many of my gripes with gmail[04:11:22] <dreamed> one of the reasons I tend to refer to google designs as built by engineers with no input from designers[04:18:15] <dreamed> although perhaps more damningly - no visible input from focus group / user testing[04:18:25] <dreamed> sit 20 people who've never used your product down in front of it[04:18:27] <dreamed> take notes[04:21:12] *** strdog has left #haiku[04:26:44] <jstressman> dreamed: yep.[04:27:19] <jstressman> by the way, as much as I hate Microsoft, the new outlook.com just made gmail look like 1995.[04:27:31] <jstressman> I still won't use it... but I certainly hope it lights a fire under the gmail folks.[04:29:24] <dreamed> I concur[04:29:37] <dreamed> I've reactivated my old hotmail account and converted to have a play with it[04:29:46] <dreamed> so far, it's much nicer on the eyes, but I haven't tried to do much with it[04:29:54] <dreamed> and it's still a bit hand-holdy[04:30:10] <dreamed> I'm not sure if you've used apple's online mail[04:30:17] <dreamed> doesn't have nearly as much fancy[04:30:21] <dreamed> doesn't look all that good[04:30:26] <dreamed> I'd go so far as to call it functional[04:30:35] <dreamed> and then wonder why it's nowhere near as good as OWA / gmail etc[04:30:40] <dreamed> though at least it's less of a ui failure than gmail[04:30:42] <dreamed> just not as advanced[04:33:02] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[04:34:23] <CIA-63> haiku.master: leavengood * hrev44456 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=81033e2 :[04:34:23] <CIA-63> Add TODO about the Shortcuts settings file management.[04:34:23] <CIA-63> Now we can close #6278.[04:36:56] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[04:39:20] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:41:23] *** Prodito has joined #haiku[04:45:19] *** bottles has quit IRC[04:50:47] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[04:50:47] *** sendak.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[04:51:20] *** Prodito is now known as Guest34175[04:59:28] <jessicah> outlook.com looks intriguing[05:00:15] <dreamed> it's certainly the most visually appealling webmail I've encountered[05:00:46] <jessicah> i like the lack of clutter[05:00:56] <jessicah> gmail seems so busy these days[05:01:04] <jessicah> used to be much, much simpler[05:01:55] <dreamed> google's web presence seems very busy these days[05:02:04] <dreamed> not as bad as stuff in the heyday, but getting there[05:06:21] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[05:07:57] *** Jessica_Lily has quit IRC[05:09:39] <dreamed> interesting[05:09:54] <dreamed> while iOS mobile safari traffic is significantly higher (in terms of web usage) than android's[05:10:02] <dreamed> akamai have released data that shows the bulk of that is over wifi[05:10:13] <dreamed> and on cellular networks, android and ios are neck and neck[05:14:36] *** Guest34175 has quit IRC[05:19:53] <jstressman> yeah, google is doing too much of that "let's include all our different things we own on every page of things we own"[05:20:08] *** _0x0dev has joined #haiku[05:29:44] <dreamed> including a large amount more ads than there used to be, on google.com[05:30:27] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[05:36:23] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[05:46:36] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[05:50:03] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[05:52:52] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[05:54:59] <jessicah> who uses google.com these days? :p[05:55:13] <jessicah> i dun even search with google anymore[05:55:29] <dreamed> well, it's built into the search bars of all my browsers, and /lazy[05:55:43] <jessicah> i use bing with chrome :)[05:55:49] <dreamed> heh[06:00:20] <dreamed> friend is complaining his minecraft is broken by the latest update[06:00:23] <dreamed> http://shop.lego.com/en-NZ/Minecraft-21102 linked him to that[06:00:29] <dreamed> now finding that oddly appealling - far more than the game[06:00:31] * dreamed ponders[06:00:46] *** kirin` has quit IRC[06:03:21] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[06:05:16] <jessicah> omg[06:05:36] <jessicah> pobbles will die when he sees this[06:05:47] <dreamed> I .. okay[06:06:34] <jessicah> :)[06:06:39] *** kirin` has joined #haiku[06:11:21] <dreamed> who or what is pobbles?[06:13:18] <jessicah> it's my nickname for PovAddict[06:13:29] <jessicah> in another channel[06:13:42] <augiedoggie> I've seen him in here[06:15:54] <jessicah> :o[06:16:16] <jessicah> so he has[06:16:33] *** _0x0dev has quit IRC[06:16:36] <jessicah> the internet is a small world[06:16:36] <dreamed> ah[06:17:06] <dreamed> yep[06:19:36] * dreamed headdesks[06:19:43] <dreamed> I am so not in the brainspace for reporting documents[06:20:07] <jessicah> i'm not in the headspace for working[06:20:13] <jessicah> want to watch movie[06:20:24] <jessicah> going to see batman tonight[06:21:04] <dreamed> it's really very good, even if it fails the bechdel test[06:21:13] <dreamed> which makes me feel a tad guilty for enjoying it, but eh[06:23:30] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[06:24:18] <jessicah> bechdel test?[06:26:48] * jessicah dies[06:26:55] <jessicah> i'm so hungry right now ;([06:27:12] <dreamed> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Bechdel_test[06:27:43] <dreamed> I'm guessing there aren't any suitable snacks in your drawer or anything[06:28:14] <jessicah> no snacks[06:28:27] <jessicah> interesting test...[06:28:29] <dreamed> fill up on water?[06:28:39] <jessicah> trying to... still hungry[06:28:47] <dreamed> mm[06:28:52] <dreamed> I keep hot chocolate at work for such occasions[06:28:56] <dreamed> it almost fools my brain[06:28:58] <dreamed> almost[06:29:04] <jessicah> i had a milo earlier[06:29:07] <jessicah> also not helping[06:29:09] <dreamed> that reminds me, need to hit the grocery stores[06:29:15] <jessicah> same[06:29:21] <jessicah> will do after movie tonight[06:29:24] <dreamed> well, it helped that I could use the coffee machine to steam milk[06:29:26] <dreamed> gave it body[06:29:38] <jessicah> we have a coffee machine too[06:29:42] <jessicah> i've never used it[06:29:46] <dreamed> I'm visiting a friend this evening for games.. no groceries tonight[06:30:07] <jessicah> what kind of games?[06:30:12] <jessicah> i like to play card games[06:30:18] <jessicah> 500 is one of my favourites[06:30:29] <dreamed> I haven't played card games in a while[06:30:48] <dreamed> with this friend, videogames - usually fighting games, or rock band, or misc interesting titles[06:30:55] <dreamed> with others I used to play a lot of scrabble[06:31:06] <dreamed> with some, some card games like give me the brain and unexploded cow[06:31:12] <dreamed> which I should really get another copy of[06:31:15] <dreamed> it's a good warm up[06:31:24] <dreamed> give me the brain is awesome[06:31:48] <dreamed> http://www.sjgames.com/givemethebrain/[06:32:23] <dreamed> best played by pronouncing each card as it is written, for maximum humour effect[06:32:44] <jessicah> you vsn't have my brain[06:32:48] <jessicah> it's too awesome[06:32:50] <jessicah> can't[06:32:52] <jessicah> buh[06:32:54] * dreamed snorts[06:33:04] <jessicah> brain failed ;_;[06:33:10] <dreamed> we use a 6 sided die :P[06:34:02] <dreamed> I know how you feel atm though[06:34:08] <dreamed> totally can't brain today, have the dumb etc[06:34:41] *** PovAddict has joined #haiku[06:34:46] * jessicah gives dreamed the brain[06:34:48] <jessicah> :o[06:34:54] <jessicah> somebody playing follow-me[06:35:07] <dreamed> heh[06:35:12] * PovAddict nibbles jessicah[06:36:00] <jessicah> i not for nomming![06:36:07] <jessicah> i tell juliet that all the time too[06:36:17] * dreamed snorts[06:37:54] <jessicah> omg, so tired my eyes are starting to water[06:38:04] <dreamed> can't just leave?[06:38:05] <dreamed> flexitime?[06:38:15] <jessicah> i think i will just leave[06:38:21] <jessicah> i got in before 9am[06:38:28] <dreamed> I've been here since 7:30[06:38:31] <dreamed> maybe I should go[06:38:31] <jessicah> seems like ok time to go[06:38:37] <jessicah> eek, 7:30[06:38:40] <jessicah> you be crazy[06:38:47] * PovAddict got up ridiculously late today \o/[06:39:00] <jessicah> hope it not too wet outside... biking home[06:39:06] <jessicah> and already darkish =/[06:39:09] <jessicah> yeah, i go home[06:39:20] <jessicah> after get changed[06:39:57] <dreamed> well[06:40:02] <dreamed> I can get here by 7/7:30[06:40:04] <dreamed> or by 9:30[06:40:10] <dreamed> with minimal traffic[06:40:13] <dreamed> nothing in the middle[06:40:16] <dreamed> and I usually leave earlier[06:40:28] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[06:40:31] <dreamed> PovAddict: my alarm today went off 1.5 hours after I got to work :P[06:41:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:46:08] <jessicah> :([06:46:14] <jessicah> buses have left already[06:49:08] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[06:51:26] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[06:53:06] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[07:00:58] <jessicah> now i really tired, but at least lil invigorated[07:06:13] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:21:32] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #637 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86gcc2] @alpha-anyboot [x86gcc2] @alpha-vmware [x86gcc2] @alpha-raw [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-anyboot [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-vmware [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-raw] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/637 blamelist: Ryan Leavengood <leavengood at gmail dot com>[07:38:37] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[07:41:26] *** Tekn0z has joined #haiku[07:41:49] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:42:55] *** jstressman has quit IRC[08:17:57] *** Prodito has joined #haiku[08:23:40] <dreamed> I ended up getting sidetracked on the way home and spending an hour doing long exposure landscape shots heh[08:26:12] *** Xcyish has joined #haiku[08:30:41] *** tqh has joined #haiku[08:37:28] *** Tekn0z has left #haiku[08:40:43] *** HENKiE has quit IRC[08:43:35] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[08:43:53] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[08:44:51] *** adev has joined #haiku[08:53:00] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[09:04:26] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[09:05:16] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:05:35] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[09:07:51] <CIA-63> HaikuPorts: augiedoggie * r1989 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/mercurial/ (mercurial-2.3.bep patches/mercurial-2.3.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1989 : Update mercurial to 2.3[09:24:45] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:41:56] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has joined #haiku[09:52:40] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[09:52:58] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[09:55:37] *** TimKack has joined #haiku[10:29:59] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[10:43:55] *** luroh has quit IRC[10:44:00] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[10:47:27] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[10:48:03] *** planktonizer has quit IRC[10:49:00] *** planktonizer has joined #haiku[10:49:20] <CIA-63> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * d93ed095640345495ace3b653ea87b66815c7c81 : (log message trimmed)[10:49:20] <CIA-63> Improved safety for user memory accesses.[10:49:20] <CIA-63> * Changed IS_USER_ADDRESS to check an address using USER_BASE and[10:49:20] <CIA-63> USER_SIZE, rather than just !IS_KERNEL_ADDRESS. 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mrow[13:06:44] <jessicah> yeah, it was well done[13:07:07] <jessicah> and now we're ready for batman & robin, lol :p[13:07:13] <dreamed> I has a cat. he's coma'd out next to me[13:07:25] <dreamed> I reckon it'll be nightwing, personally :P[13:07:38] <jessicah> nightwing?[13:07:55] <jessicah> and yay! batman & catwoman were together at the end[13:08:12] <dreamed> nightwing is what robin becomes after he splits from batman, and batman gets another robin[13:08:15] <dreamed> or something[13:08:24] <jessicah> :o[13:08:32] <dreamed> I lose track[13:08:39] <dreamed> the only comics I really follow are dark horse ones[13:10:50] *** Tekn0z has left #haiku[13:10:54] *** tqh has quit IRC[13:11:29] <jessicah> well, getting late. i going sleep now :)[13:11:35] <jessicah> goodnight dreamed =^.^=[13:13:19] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:14:46] <dreamed> nn[13:14:53] <dreamed> I should too[13:14:58] <dreamed> don't need a repeat of last night / this morning[13:18:20] *** Tekn0z has joined #haiku[13:18:55] *** _marc` has quit IRC[13:23:49] *** Barrett has quit IRC[13:26:17] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:26:36] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[13:36:01] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[13:38:41] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:38:41] *** JsobCloud_ is now known as JsobCloud[13:40:21] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[13:40:40] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:03:48] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[14:12:37] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:12:56] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:18:32] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[14:18:49] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[14:19:52] *** Tekn0z has quit IRC[14:21:22] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:22:46] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:22:49] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[14:27:11] *** JsobCloud_ has joined #haiku[14:29:46] *** DraX has quit IRC[14:29:59] *** JsobCloud has quit IRC[14:30:05] *** DraX has joined #haiku[14:30:06] *** DraX has joined #haiku[14:32:01] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:35:41] *** JsobCloud_ has quit IRC[14:35:41] *** JsobCloud is now known as JsobCloud_[14:40:18] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:50:53] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[14:54:59] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[14:55:23] *** JsobCloud_ has quit IRC[14:55:42] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[14:56:20] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[14:57:43] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:08:29] <Anarchos> when i do a configure with alternative-gcc4 and i use jam into my generated.gcc2 folder, the resulting image doesn't contain the app folder with the standard links. 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#haiku[19:13:28] <HaikuUser> what are the plans on app developement on the Haiku platform?[19:14:03] <HaikuUser> i am very excited about it as I was a long time fan of the BeOS platform[19:14:18] <AlienSoldier> the plan? to make kickass app what do you think :P[19:14:45] <HaikuUser> I like it a lot[19:14:50] <HaikuUser> :-)[19:14:52] <AlienSoldier> i am personally an adept of small component than monolitic apps[19:15:03] <AlienSoldier> *rather than[19:15:27] <Luko> hi follks[19:15:31] <HaikuUser> understood, too bad I cannot develope, as I am a network engineer and mostly support NOS stuff[19:15:38] <HaikuUser> Howdie[19:15:54] <Luko> is there any plan to port openoffice, when now we will have openjdk[19:16:05] <Luko> ?[19:16:30] <HaikuUser> dont' know, however I think that is a massive undertaking[19:16:49] <Luko> thats true, ooffice is big[19:17:31] <Luko> before i know haiku i was fan of Syllable, and there people say that openoffice is very big to be a syllable app :D[19:20:46] 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mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * 42eafd7e57e28531ce1055f93eb2a6588c4435b1 : Only include their config_target/target_* counterparts. [8 commits][22:49:29] <CIA-63> axeld-github.imap: axeld-github * bbba56367924a84256cfd2ec2e420debc8f2b31d :[22:49:29] <CIA-63> Removed no longer used libalm.so.[22:49:29] <CIA-63> * Also removed the old package cruft - those packages aren't built any more.[22:50:27] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[22:50:41] *** papasmurf has joined #haiku[22:50:55] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:51:21] *** volci has quit IRC[22:53:54] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[22:55:16] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:55:27] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[22:55:27] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[22:56:35] <Jessica_lily> Hey, when i plug a moniter into a machine after haiku's graphical server is running, it should automatically detect it and begin displaying on it right?[22:58:26] <luroh> not sure actually, perhaps EDID is only read at boot[22:58:58] *** orealis has quit IRC[23:00:03] <Anarchos> Jessica_lily you should try with beos ...[23:00:22] <Anarchos> Jessica_lily maybe you have to use Preferences/Screen[23:03:30] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:03:38] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[23:04:24] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[23:04:48] <Jessica_lily> Anarchos: i tried using that and changing the resolution[23:04:51] <Jessica_lily> it didn't work[23:04:54] *** krazeivan has joined #haiku[23:05:10] <PulkoMandy> there is no support for multiple screens in most drivers[23:05:18] <Jessica_lily> well if i reboot it works fine[23:05:27] <Jessica_lily> it will display on both[23:05:36] <Anarchos> Jessica_lily so we know that haiku is not plug and play[23:05:49] <PulkoMandy> yes, you can get a "clone" view, but that's likely because your BIOS does it :)[23:05:58] <Jessica_lily> ahh I see[23:06:04] <PulkoMandy> Anarchos: well, it is for most things, but not for screens, yet :)[23:06:07] *** PasNox__ has joined #haiku[23:06:09] *** PasNox_ has quit IRC[23:06:12] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy i know :)[23:06:14] <Jessica_lily> PulkoMandy: that would explain[23:06:22] <Jessica_lily> PulkoMandy: thanks for clearing that up[23:10:10] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:11:55] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[23:14:14] *** PasNox__ is now known as PasNox[23:17:09] *** kirin` has quit IRC[23:17:51] *** papasmurf has quit IRC[23:18:15] *** kirin` has joined #haiku[23:21:19] *** dcase has quit IRC[23:23:01] *** kirin` has quit IRC[23:23:32] <dreamed> morning[23:23:54] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[23:23:56] *** kirin` has joined #haiku[23:25:05] <Jessica_lily> morning dreamed[23:29:29] *** happy4crazy has joined #haiku[23:29:54] *** happy4crazy has quit IRC[23:31:44] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[23:35:52] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[23:38:49] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[23:46:38] *** RQ has quit IRC[23:49:14] <CIA-63> mmadia-github.separate-build-environment: mmadia-github * a996bce5a0b98a1c11c3e7d5bbffdf4eb1298eba :[23:49:14] <CIA-63> Fix header includes. Some cleanup.[23:49:14] <CIA-63> * include target_SupportDefs.h, not SupportDefs.h[23:49:14] <CIA-63> * Add the missing underscore in the type names.[23:49:14] <CIA-63> * Remove commented includes