August 28, 2011 
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August 28, 2011 [00:03:09] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[00:03:37] <HaikuUser> hey someone knows how to add fonts to haiku[00:07:35] <Duggan> I don't, sorry[00:08:17] *** Cian has joined #haiku[00:08:22] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[00:09:54] <Disreali> hello[00:10:05] <luroh> HaikuUser: http://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/preferences/fonts.html[00:10:40] <HaikuUser> thanks[00:10:42] <Disreali> has anyone been hit by the storm?[00:15:13] <scgtrp> i got 20 minutes of rain from it, does that count?[00:24:32] <adamk> Disreali, It's been raining here since 12 PM EST. And the storm is still coming our way.[00:28:17] <Duggan> I live in MS... we don't get storms here :P[00:39:05] *** cprodescu has joined #haiku[00:42:29] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[00:43:41] *** kingxerxes has joined #haiku[00:43:46] <adamk_> Well, this is the first hurricane to hit NJ since I moved here 12 years ago.[00:44:04] <adamk_> But, then again, Irene may only be a tropical storm by the time the bulk of her reaches us.[00:47:12] <Duggan> actually I don't just live in MS, I live on the MS Gulf Coast :P[00:48:49] <adamk_> Yeah, I kind of figured you were being sarcastic :-)[00:49:08] <Duggan> just a little ;)[00:52:17] *** adamk has quit IRC[00:56:10] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[00:57:18] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:57:38] *** kingxerxes has quit IRC[00:59:26] <Duggan> hey mmadia[00:59:49] <mmadia> hi.[01:00:04] <Duggan> humdinger accused you of being a better coder than he[01:00:56] <mmadia> only if bash and python count :-P[01:01:08] <Duggan> lol I guess he think they do :P[01:01:12] <Duggan> thinks[01:03:34] <Duggan> you guys should give Skipp_OSX commit rights... his name's been in almost every commit over the last week or so :P[01:04:10] <Disreali> when the devs think it is time[01:04:22] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[01:04:30] <Duggan> lol he's been doing more work than they have :P[01:04:36] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:04:40] *** mmadia42 is now known as mmadia[01:04:47] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:04:47] <Disreali> wb mmadia[01:05:52] <Ziusudra> just because they aren't commiting doesn't mean they aren't working[01:07:12] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[01:07:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[01:07:18] <Duggan> I know, I know.... was just trying to put in a good word for a hard worker.... sorry :/[01:07:42] * Duggan won't do that anymore.[01:24:01] <mmadia> i don't see anything wrong with suggesting people.[01:24:10] *** PasNox has quit IRC[01:26:06] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:27:18] *** VNA9216_ has quit IRC[01:36:35] *** Cld has quit IRC[01:38:12] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[01:52:30] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:52:31] *** swarfega has quit IRC[01:52:35] *** Advant has quit IRC[01:53:08] *** Advant has joined #haiku[01:53:31] *** swarfega has joined #haiku[01:53:47] *** Advant has quit IRC[01:54:36] *** oco2 has quit IRC[01:56:03] *** Advant has joined #haiku[01:56:03] *** Advant has joined #haiku[02:02:13] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:03:07] *** swarfega has quit IRC[02:05:31] *** swarfega has joined #haiku[02:07:16] *** cprodescu has quit IRC[02:08:28] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:08:41] *** kingxerxes has joined #haiku[02:20:07] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[02:21:01] *** cprodescu has joined #haiku[02:21:39] <ddavid123> Webpositive works again![02:22:04] <Duggan> oh.. broke because of the ICU update?[02:22:25] <Duggan> I haven't updated in a few weeks, I should though...[02:23:20] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[02:24:45] <ddavid123> Duggan: I don't know, some libs were mismatched or something[02:26:13] <Duggan> about a week ago ICU was updated which is a dep of web+ which was fixed... I don't remember when, sometime in the last 48 hours[02:26:31] <Duggan> so yeah, you were probably using a build during that period[02:28:14] <Duggan> look at r42692[02:29:16] <ddavid123> It was last night's build[02:29:57] <ddavid123> I believe it was 42692[02:30:24] <ddavid123> Waiting for Alpha 4 soon?[02:30:38] <Duggan> hell no, there'd better not be an a4 :P[02:30:54] <ddavid123> Beta then?[02:30:58] <Duggan> hopefully beta1 is next[02:31:29] <ddavid123> There is alot to be done between now and then![02:31:48] <ddavid123> May take over a year.[02:31:54] <Duggan> nah[02:32:34] <ddavid123> Hopefully Webpositive gets upgraded to full HTML5[02:32:44] <ddavid123> before beta[02:32:46] <Duggan> beta means it's feature complete but buggy, just switch to bug fix mode during that period until R1, then back to adding new stuff[02:32:56] <Duggan> web+ is different from Haiku :)[02:33:52] <ddavid123> So are all of its apps?[02:34:33] <Duggan> web+ is an optional package I believe[02:35:05] *** jbabs has joined #haiku[02:35:41] <ddavid123> Well, after 10 years in the making,; another year until R1 isn't so bad.[02:36:00] <Duggan> at least that[02:36:22] <Duggan> we haven't even reached the first beta yet, and who knows how many there will be before R1[02:37:34] <ddavid123> I had expected about nine months of beta testing, then three or four months as Release Candidate and then release[02:38:15] <Duggan> I don't see the point in RC's myself, that's what betas are for[02:38:15] <ddavid123> but bugs make timetables a waste of time![02:38:26] <Duggan> that's why we don't have timetables :)[02:38:27] <Duggan> lol[02:38:33] <ddavid123> lol[02:38:50] <ddavid123> Like Debian, it is ready when it is ready! lol[02:38:56] <Duggan> pretty much hehe[02:39:29] <ddavid123> Any ideas of a rolling release Haiku?[02:39:55] <Duggan> some more months before b1, who knows how long before b2... there's been some speculation on how many betas there will be, the general concensus is 2 but in reality we won't know til we get there[02:40:28] <ddavid123> If I had to guess, I would say three![02:40:37] <ddavid123> lol[02:40:45] <Duggan> nah, the alphas are beta quality :P[02:40:46] *** Cian has quit IRC[02:40:50] <Duggan> less work during the beta phase lol[02:41:13] <ddavid123> You don't get it. Three. Three lines in a Haiku![02:41:21] <ddavid123> lol[02:41:27] <Duggan> bah :P[02:41:40] <ddavid123> rothfmao[02:42:53] <ddavid123> I agree with you Duggan, Haiku is already fairly stable now. Just lacking some features that are in the Alpha 3.[02:43:19] <ddavid123> in the nightly builds I mean[02:43:52] <Duggan> personally my biggest concern right now is 3d hw accel which I was working on but got a little sidetracked, not sure when I'll get back to it but I'd rather see a group devoted to it myself[02:44:19] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[02:44:46] <Duggan> most everything else is there... in various working states, but there nonetheless[02:44:56] <ddavid123> Yes. 3-D acceleration is important for games and other graphics intensive apps.[02:45:27] <ddavid123> There is a feature missing in the nightlies that are in the Alpha 3.[02:45:36] <Duggan> what's that?[02:45:52] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[02:46:19] <ddavid123> When you right click on the desktop in Alpha 3, there are more options in the context menu that pops up[02:46:37] <scgtrp> make more partitions![02:46:37] <ddavid123> Like creating text files and c++ files etc.[02:46:54] <Duggan> works for me?[02:47:00] <Duggan> lol scgtrp[02:47:07] <Duggan> I have 3, how many do I need? :P[02:47:16] <Duggan> well, 3 devoted to Haiku :P[02:47:18] <scgtrp> enough to get a bunch of entries in the context menu[02:48:00] <ddavid123> right click on the desktop, then click new. Most of the options are missing in the nightlies that are there in the Alpha 3[02:48:03] <scgtrp> tbh i never got the point of creating things from the context menu, i prefer to start the relevant program and save from there[02:48:07] <scgtrp> but i'm probably not a typical userr[02:48:12] <scgtrp> nor a typical user[02:48:21] <Duggan> I do it both ways[02:49:32] <ddavid123> I suppose it will reappear in the next Alpha-Beta release.[02:49:48] *** Xeon4D has joined #haiku[02:49:55] <Duggan> hey Xeon4D[02:49:58] *** Xeon4D has quit IRC[02:49:58] *** Xeon4D has joined #haiku[02:50:03] <Xeon4D> hi Duggan[02:50:23] <Duggan> gotta step out, back in a few[02:50:31] <ddavid123> Cya[02:52:26] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[02:54:16] *** jbabs has quit IRC[02:57:22] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[02:58:53] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[03:11:14] *** kingxerxes has quit IRC[03:23:37] *** surrounder has quit IRC[03:30:25] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[03:41:42] <kernel_joe> is there 3mix application for haiku ?[03:41:46] <kernel_joe> 3dmix[03:48:42] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I am not doing more work than all the devs put together, just a patch here and there :)[03:51:12] <Duggan> I didn't say put together necessarily... I just haven't seen a whole lot of commits by the core devs lately but just about everything I see has your name in it :P[03:52:33] *** eriaranth000 has quit IRC[03:52:51] <kernel_joe> no one has 3dmix app ?[03:55:29] <Duggan> kernel_joe I guess you're talking about a mixer for 3d audio? if so, I don't know of any such a utility for Haiku at present[03:57:04] <kernel_joe> maybe anyone have a binary from BeOS ?[03:57:26] <kernel_joe> I just want to show that app to somebody in working state[04:00:10] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:19:18] *** kingxerxes has joined #haiku[04:36:39] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[04:59:15] *** paul0 has quit IRC[05:06:44] *** stef_ has joined #haiku[05:07:50] *** kernel_joe has quit IRC[05:09:23] *** stef has quit IRC[05:33:35] *** polifasio has quit IRC[05:33:39] *** Advant has quit IRC[05:38:19] *** polifasio has joined #haiku[05:41:13] *** Advant has joined #haiku[05:41:13] *** Advant has joined #haiku[05:48:53] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[05:53:15] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[05:55:14] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[05:55:14] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[06:25:30] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:40:37] *** Ketsuban has quit IRC[06:42:41] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[06:43:07] *** geist3 has joined #haiku[06:43:18] <geist3> hah, dug out me ol bebox[06:43:18] *** geist3 has quit IRC[06:44:02] *** geist3 has joined #haiku[06:45:19] <geist> hmm, well it's pretty unstable[06:45:21] <geist> kept disconnecting[06:45:30] <geist> damn i forgot how slow that thing was[06:45:31] <helf2> heh[06:45:38] <helf2> is it a 66 or 133?[06:45:58] <helf2> i had a 66.. it was.. fun to play with but totally unusable for anything[06:45:58] <geist> 133[06:46:16] <helf2> the cpu meter wasnt much fun since it was jsut pegged the entire time[06:46:16] <geist> this one has a broken build on it, maybe it was a dev build, i dunno[06:46:37] <geist> the last date on any of the email was in mid 2000, so it was while i was still working there[06:46:47] <geist> Deskbar crashes right off the bat, etc[06:46:54] *** Ziusudra has left #haiku[06:47:11] <helf2> heh[06:47:20] <helf2> i had r5 on mine[06:47:29] <geist> yeah, this looks like r4.5[06:47:35] <helf2> i guess older builds might be faster on them[06:47:46] <geist> actually it has three partitions across two drives: r4.5, bebackup (which seems to be more functional than the 4.5 build) and build[06:48:09] <geist> so i suspect 4.5 was an install target. i seem to remember you could do that with the build, tell it to make directly to a new partition[06:48:11] <helf2> have any more beboxes? :p[06:48:12] <geist> and it was common to do that[06:48:20] <geist> i have a second one, but i dont think it has any hard drives in it[06:48:45] <helf2> ah ok[06:48:47] <geist> the r4.5 partition crashes left and right[06:49:09] <helf2> i finagled an ssd boot drive in mine[06:49:17] <helf2> it definitely booted quickly, lol[06:49:26] <geist> heh on a bebox?[06:49:28] <geist> sweet[06:49:29] <helf2> yeahg[06:49:36] <helf2> used two scsi adapters[06:49:45] <helf2> 68pin to sata and a 50-68pin[06:49:55] <geist> iirc, it has a scsi and a ide adaptor[06:50:04] <geist> dont remember if you could root from the ide though, maybe only for cdroms[06:50:05] <helf2> yeah i think so[06:50:12] <helf2> i dont thin kyou could[06:50:19] <helf2> i seem to remember trying ide first[06:50:30] <geist> i think so too, i think i generally used ide on the one i had at work[06:50:35] <helf2> i wouldnt mind adding one back to my collection to play with[06:50:38] <geist> this one i had taken home in 99 and used while i twas working remotely[06:50:43] <helf2> ah ok[06:50:53] <geist> and then i had one at work as a serial debugger, mostly[06:51:04] <helf2> wanna get rid of one? ;)[06:51:14] <geist> the 2nd one i have here i got from ficus about 6 or 7 years ago. i think it was the one he bought himself, and he was gonna toss it[06:51:30] <helf2> that would have been sad :([06:51:47] <helf2> I'd still like to get a hobbit box just for collectors sake[06:51:57] <geist> according to wikuipedia they sold about 1000 66mhz and 800 133mhz[06:52:01] <geist> i thought it was higher than that[06:52:30] <geist> i know of a few 200s, we had them in the labs[06:52:37] <helf2> i found a hobbit box a few years ago i could have bought, but it wasnt fully operational and the guy wanted some stupid amount for it[06:52:43] <geist> didn't run a whole lot faster though, they were always L1 cache starved[06:52:45] <helf2> isnt there a few quads floating around?[06:53:00] <geist> nah, that was a folk tale[06:53:03] <helf2> oh[06:53:13] <geist> they had serious cache problems, not having an L2 cache[06:53:20] <helf2> it seems like the beboxes would have been better off to have had a single cpu and l2 cache[06:53:23] <geist> i remember we used to disable one of the cpus when doing builds[06:53:33] <geist> it was actually faster to disable one and run a single threaded build[06:53:35] <helf2> wasnt it a bit of a hack?[06:53:57] <geist> yeah, problem was that particular cpu (603) didn't have any smp cache coherency[06:54:03] <geist> or whatever chipset didn't[06:54:13] <geist> or something along those lines, so L2 wasn't available[06:54:21] <helf2> yeah, it was kept in software, wasnt it?[06:54:30] * helf2 used to know all of this[06:54:36] <geist> well, no, it's just that the L2 would have been in the chipset, but there wasn't a chipset that could do it[06:54:41] <helf2> i seem to remember the chipset could either run two cpus with just l1 or a single with l2[06:54:42] <geist> with smp. i think[06:54:46] <geist> right[06:54:57] <helf2> im pretty sure i would have chosen a single cpu and l2[06:55:04] <geist> so in general they worked fine as long as the cpus were really off doing something different[06:55:28] <geist> well, the dual cpu stuff was a bit gimmick at the time[06:55:34] <helf2> is haiku targeting them at all?[06:55:45] <geist> nah, as far as i know only netbsd sort of ran on one once[06:56:07] <helf2> oh[06:56:27] <helf2> im pretty sure mine was a dual 66[06:56:32] <helf2> miiiightve been a 133, but i dont think so[06:56:39] <helf2> i just remember that i couldnt get it to play mp3s smoothly[06:56:53] <helf2> and the NeXT I hd sitting next to it could and it irked me[06:57:19] <geist> yeah, and they never transitioned ppc builds over to gcc. they were still stuck on metrowerks, etc[06:57:23] <helf2> dual ppc vs a 33mhz 68k... :p[06:57:37] <geist> yah, been fooling with my nextstation today too. it's surprisingly fast[06:57:45] <helf2> i really really really miss mine[06:57:50] <helf2> i wish i hadnt sold it[06:57:52] <helf2> :([06:57:56] <helf2> had a nice turbo color set up[06:58:07] <helf2> yeah, they are remarkably snappy[06:58:23] <helf2> i really want a dimension cube.[06:58:29] <geist> i have a non turbo b&w[06:58:40] <geist> just pulle dout the disk and archived it, in case the disk craps out[06:58:41] <helf2> ive only ever used turbo models[06:58:45] <geist> since i have no original install media[06:58:50] <helf2> oh, i may have some[06:58:58] <helf2> man, i used to have a crapton of NeXT stuf[06:59:14] <DraX> i think i have RISC media for 3.3..[06:59:15] <DraX> somewhere[06:59:25] <DraX> though that wouldn't help with the nextstation[07:00:00] <geist> yeah, poking around the net it's pretty easy to get ahold of x86 nextstep stuff, but very few mentions of 68k builds[07:00:06] <geist> but i only poked around for a few minutes[07:00:31] <helf2> nextcomputers.org/forums can hook you up[07:00:33] <DraX> the x86 media also had 68k on it if memory serves[07:00:43] <DraX> it was CISC and RISC where risc was pa-risc and sparc[07:00:47] <DraX> and cisc was x86 and 68k[07:00:50] <helf2> yeah, i think so[07:00:58] <helf2> might need boot floppies tho[07:01:07] <helf2> someone made a bootable cd on the forums[07:01:16] <geist> hmm, according to wikipedia none of the 603s had smp support at all, so presumably the chipset is sitting there invalidating each others L1 to emulate it all[07:01:36] <geist> yeah, i'd need a working external scsi cdrom. my last sun one crapped out recently[07:01:41] <geist> or at least i'll need to debug it[07:02:06] *** [Katisu]_m has joined #haiku[07:02:23] <DraX> i had a couple pa-risc boxes at some point but they're gone now[07:02:25] <helf2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/helfer/sets/72157623700712983/[07:02:26] <DraX> and an indy[07:02:29] <helf2> that was my set up[07:02:33] * helf2 misses it so[07:03:04] <geist> awww[07:03:26] <helf2> the palm was there because i had it syncing over serial to the next using pilot-sink :p[07:03:31] <helf2> or whateveri t was called[07:03:56] <helf2> i know of a cube with dual dimension boards in it i could buy[07:04:02] <helf2> but... he wants like $1500[07:04:27] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[07:04:28] *** [Katisu]_m is now known as [Katisu][07:04:59] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[07:06:48] <helf2> oh well, night all[07:07:28] <geist> nite[07:20:29] <geist> ahhhh getting a bunch of scsi errors on the bootdisk of the bebox, when plugged into another machine[07:20:33] <geist> that might explain it running like ass[07:20:55] <geist> and stuff crashing left and right[07:37:14] *** cprodescu has quit IRC[08:05:40] <DDevine> Hey, they're discontinuing BeOS support, does that include Haiku? http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/08/27/1349233/Linux-Support-Fades-For-3Dfx-Voodoo-Rage-128-VIA[08:24:05] <OmniMancer> I like how they imply that removing beossupport will speed development :P[08:41:45] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[08:43:07] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:45:40] <mrsunshine> its sad to remove as it compiles fine still on haiku, even the latest git stuffs does from what i can tell[08:45:49] <mrsunshine> but hey, lets remove something that actualy works[08:49:30] <mrsunshine> OmniMancer, was it you that ported dmd to haiku or whatever it was?[08:52:45] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[08:55:45] *** luroh has joined #haiku[08:59:07] <OmniMancer> dmd?[09:00:34] *** Xeon4D has quit IRC[09:02:05] <DDevine> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/White-HP-TouchPad-16GB-Wi-Fi-running-Android-drawing-/220840920772?pt=AU_Drawings&hash=item336b2506c4[09:07:16] <geist> oh wow![09:11:54] <mrsunshine> OmniMancer, digital mars D :P[09:11:58] <mrsunshine> that is the dmd compiler[09:12:05] <mrsunshine> or who the heck was that[09:12:27] <OmniMancer> no I don't like D :P[09:12:49] <mrsunshine> hmm ok[09:13:15] <OmniMancer> geist: I wonder if that will catch anyone :P[09:16:19] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[09:16:22] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[09:18:36] *** lorglas has quit IRC[09:44:00] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[09:46:58] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[09:53:27] *** bknoedel has joined #haiku[10:04:03] *** idefix_oneiric has joined #haiku[10:04:16] *** idefix_oneiric has left #haiku[10:06:01] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[10:08:46] *** bknoedel has left #haiku[10:12:35] *** smop has quit IRC[10:13:35] *** jrabbit has 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em actually[13:08:03] <Anarchos> geist do it run haiku ?[13:08:33] <geist> no, there's no port of haiku to bebox[13:08:45] <Anarchos> geist could be really geek :)[13:08:55] <geist> there's only like 600 of them in existance[13:09:00] <geist> kind of hard to justify porting to it[13:09:12] <Duggan> and about 3/4 of those are owned by people in this chatroom...[13:09:16] <Duggan> :P[13:09:17] <geist> http://tkgeisel.com/pics/oldcomputers/bebox2011.jpg[13:10:27] <Anarchos> geist eh eh sun mouse pad ![13:10:56] <geist> well, it only moments before had a sgi box[13:11:00] <geist> http://tkgeisel.com/pics/oldcomputers/indy2011-a.jpg[13:11:08] <geist> and a next machine[13:11:10] <geist> http://tkgeisel.com/pics/oldcomputers/nextguts.jpg[13:11:18] <geist> forgot to take a picture while it was running[13:11:27] <geist> but this is an old pic of the same machine[13:11:29] <geist> http://tkgeisel.com/pics/oldcomputers/next.jpg[13:12:04] <Anarchos> geist i already work on indy at 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Will Haiku support wpa2 encrypted neteworks?[20:03:35] <jrabbit> it does with a modified wpa_supplicant you can download[20:04:55] <Dilbert> will it be in altha 4?[20:07:56] <luroh> Dilbert: that seems likely[20:08:05] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[20:08:09] <Dilbert> when will that be out?[20:08:15] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[20:08:55] <luroh> no one knows. Haiku doesn't do time based releases[20:09:02] <luroh> yet, at least[20:09:20] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[20:09:20] *** VNA9216__ has joined #haiku[20:10:05] <Dilbert> thank you. Will Haiku support ad-hoc mode relayed from cell phones with joikuspot?[20:10:18] <polifasio> Dilbert: yes[20:10:35] <Dilbert> when will we see that?[20:10:44] <polifasio> that I cannot say[20:11:12] <Dilbert> ok. i must go. but thank yo for answering. :-)[20:11:26] *** Dilbert has quit IRC[20:14:05] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[20:15:20] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[20:15:21] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[20:17:44] *** Hasham has joined #haiku[20:18:03] <Hasham> hi..how is haiku development going on[20:21:20] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[20:26:16] *** Hasham has quit IRC[20:26:31] *** duvjones has quit IRC[20:36:45] *** gouchi has quit IRC[20:40:40] *** kingxerxes has joined #haiku[20:53:21] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[20:53:25] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[20:54:11] *** Malmis has quit IRC[20:55:05] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[20:55:46] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[20:55:46] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[20:56:48] *** cprodescu has joined #haiku[20:57:32] *** Disreali has joined 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