August 24, 2011 
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August 24, 2011 [00:00:32] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:06:21] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:17:53] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:18:53] *** dak has joined #haiku[00:19:12] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[00:22:41] *** VNA9216_ has quit IRC[00:23:13] *** VNA9216_ has joined #haiku[00:24:02] *** jprostko has quit IRC[00:27:37] *** P4R4N01D1 has joined #haiku[00:32:01] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:48:23] *** user_ has joined #haiku[01:00:09] *** brianb__ has joined #haiku[01:01:12] *** dak has quit IRC[01:03:39] *** brianb_ has quit IRC[01:05:30] *** pptf has joined #haiku[01:06:10] *** Cian has quit IRC[01:09:37] *** pptf has quit IRC[01:10:53] *** pptf has joined #haiku[01:12:07] *** piepsi has quit IRC[01:29:05] *** oco2 has quit IRC[01:29:57] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[01:32:27] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[01:33:32] *** rkeene has joined #haiku[01:35:22] <rkeene> I'm wanting to build a cross-compiler targetting Haiku. I already maintain several other cross-compilers (Solaris/i386 (multilib), Solaris/SPARC (multilib), NetBSD/amd64, FreeBSD/amd64, HP-UX/pa-risc2.0w) and I want to incorporate the Haiku build into the same framework -- which means I want to build the cross-binutils and cross-gcc myself.[01:35:43] <rkeene> Most of the destructions I can find refer to using Haiku supplied tools to do this.[01:39:16] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[01:43:10] <pptf> rkeene: currently, Haiku is built with either gcc2.95, gcc 4, or a hybrid of both[01:43:29] <pptf> rkeene: there are also advances in compiling with llvm[01:43:39] <rkeene> I'm not trying to compile Haiku -- just binutils+gcc[01:44:21] <rkeene> I have the platform files from a Haiku box to link against and include for the programs I am compiling that will run on Haiku[01:44:24] <mmu_man> well the configure script at the top level in the source tree calls some scripts to do it[01:44:41] <mmu_man> but you'll need some other tools anyway like xres[01:45:40] <rkeene> Currently my problem is binutils fails with: *** BFD does not support target i586-pc-haiku.[01:45:51] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[01:47:04] <geist> on what platform?[01:47:29] <rkeene> I'm on Linux/i386[01:47:33] <pptf> rkeene: I know this has been discussed on the dev mailing list before, but I cannot seem to find anything specific right now.[01:47:55] <pptf> rkeene: there is a blog description of a detailed process of building gcc at https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/mmlr/2009-01-31/native_gcc_4_3_3_for_haiku_tales_of_updating_the_gcc4_port[01:48:04] <rkeene> Compiling "binutils" v2.21.1 for i586-pc-haiku[01:48:07] <pptf> but it's about 2 years old[01:49:24] *** VNA9216_ has quit IRC[01:52:26] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[01:52:34] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[01:52:44] <rkeene> Are there some patches required to binutils 2.21.1 for it to target Haiku ?[01:53:39] <geist> yes[01:53:45] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[01:54:00] <geist> that's why the haiku tree has a fully checked in and modified version of binutils and gcc and a configure script to go with it[01:54:08] <geist> your best bet is to build taht and then extract the toolchain out of it[01:55:43] <rkeene> I would have to extract it and generate a diff of binutils 2.21.1 for it to work in my build system[01:55:53] <mmu_man> anyone with enough aspirin can try to upstream the patches[01:56:15] <scgtrp> heh[01:56:15] <mmu_man> hmm those should be also in the vendor/ branch already[01:56:16] <geist> hahaha[01:56:38] <mmu_man> you should be able to get a diff straight from svn[01:56:45] <scgtrp> i've got half a bottle of advil somewhere, i'm on it*[01:56:49] <scgtrp> * but not really[01:57:00] <rkeene> mmu_man, Link ?[01:57:12] <scgtrp> http://haiku-os.org/guides/building/get-source-svn[01:57:21] <scgtrp> http://svn.haiku-os.org/haiku/buildtools/trunk[01:58:40] <rkeene> svn checkout http://svn.haiku-os.org/haiku/buildtools/trunk haiku/buildtools => svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.haiku-os.org/haiku/buildtools/trunk': could not connect to server (http://svn.haiku-os.org)[01:58:51] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[01:59:21] <scgtrp> are the git mirrors kept up to date? (probably should have asked that before i started cloning them)[01:59:28] <geist> yes[02:02:19] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:04:56] <rkeene> Okay, I'll just hold off on supporting Haiku until those patches or Subversion can be made accessible[02:05:09] <geist> they are[02:05:13] <rkeene> Where ?[02:05:58] <geist> huh. strange. works fine here[02:06:15] <rkeene> Not here -- svn, version 1.6.16 (r1073529)[02:06:49] <geist> strange[02:07:19] <scgtrp> git://git.haiku-os.org/buildtools[02:07:52] <rkeene> I'm cloning that now[02:08:09] <geist> it's up to date, though at the moment it's strictly a clone of the svn repo[02:08:16] <geist> but there are plans to move to git completely soon[02:08:23] <scgtrp> which is all he needs right now, afaik[02:08:40] <rkeene> I just need the patch against a vanilla binutils 2.21.1[02:08:42] <geist> yep, and probably more efficient anyway[02:09:49] <rkeene> Or rather, a patch against binutils, that applies to 2.21.1[02:13:51] <geist> depends on which version of binutils is in the tree[02:14:10] <rkeene> 2.19[02:14:34] <geist> yeah, looks like it[02:15:28] <rkeene> The diff looks reasonable[02:15:36] <rkeene> Why hasn't upstrem accepted it ?[02:20:28] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:21:34] <Disreali> because it is specifically for use when building haiku on a platform other than haiku[02:21:52] <Disreali> it adds no real features[02:23:58] *** js has quit IRC[02:24:17] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[02:25:59] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[02:28:42] *** Nozy has quit IRC[02:34:20] *** Issac-S has joined #haiku[02:38:09] *** duvjones has quit IRC[02:45:05] <rkeene> One would think that not having to maintain your own fork of binutils, perpetually out-of-date would out-weigh that[02:46:59] <rkeene> Binutils 2.21.1 built. GCC doesn't build either -- I'm guessing upstream doesn't support Haiku.[02:47:42] <Disreali> true, for the most part[02:47:48] *** moofree has joined #haiku[02:48:15] <Disreali> welcome moofree. great nick[02:49:32] <rkeene> Looks like the GCC in Haiku's build area is 4.5.3 -- I build 4.6.1[02:52:31] <Disreali> again, upstream does not care about Haiku support, whickh is why we include the buildtools in our own trunk[02:53:13] *** benjaminoakes_ has joined #haiku[02:53:17] <Disreali> you really need to use the tools include in the haiku trunk[03:03:04] *** P4R4N01D1 has quit IRC[03:06:06] *** P4R4N01D1 has joined #haiku[03:19:24] *** shevy has quit IRC[03:21:08] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[03:22:46] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[03:23:49] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[03:27:40] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[03:29:47] *** benjaminoakes_ has quit IRC[03:30:02] *** xissburg has joined #haiku[03:32:34] *** shevy has joined #haiku[03:33:19] <rkeene> I'll just not support Haiku -- the GCC diff is non-trivial[03:34:10] <rkeene> (Mostly due to changes that were not required)[03:37:06] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: huh?[03:38:52] <rkeene> Skipp_OSX, I was trying to build a cross-compiler that targets Haiku/i586 using the same framework I build all my other cross-compilers inside of -- but since there is no upstream support and the Haiku fork of GCC is non-trivial to generate a patch that I can apply to vanilla GCC 4.6.1 I'm just abandoning the endeavour. I'll try again next year.[03:39:41] *** _taos_ has quit IRC[03:51:21] <geist> mkay[03:51:27] *** pptf has quit IRC[03:58:25] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:59:39] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: could you use an older gcc version?[04:01:21] <Skipp_OSX> although this is a problem on Haiku, having a non-standard gcc, it is actually a common problem. Mac OS X has its own version of gcc as does Windows.[04:04:27] <rkeene> My framework doesn't make it easy to set a per-target GCC so for all my existing cross-compilers if a patch is needed (which they have, but minimal -- less than 12 lines for all platforms). I'm only working with ELF systems at the moment.[04:06:33] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: well, Haiku will still have a patched gcc next year, the gcc version has been updated serveral times but the patches are not going to be accepted upstream in the near future.[04:07:13] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: I mean Mac OS X has had a custom GCC for 10 years+ now and they have oodles of money and resources to throw at the problem[04:07:24] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[04:09:54] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[04:11:27] <rkeene> I'll try again next year :-P[04:15:22] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: okay, gl[04:15:26] <Skipp_OSX> :)[04:15:26] <Skipp_OSX> :)[04:23:44] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[04:24:11] <Duggan> OSX has been around for 10 years already?...[04:24:17] <Duggan> shows what I know about macs...[04:30:22] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: and if you count Mac OS X as a continuation of NextStep (which it really is) it has been around 20 years[04:31:17] <Duggan> wasn't aware of that either...[04:35:01] *** nighty has joined #haiku[04:35:14] <Duggan> funny how hotshots at apple like to leave and start businesses writing their own OSes...[04:35:23] <Duggan> I see a trend...[04:35:23] <Duggan> lol[04:40:49] *** user_ has quit IRC[04:41:53] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[04:44:06] *** dla09 has left #haiku[04:50:25] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: well, that is because MacOS (non-X) sucked...[04:51:13] <rkeene> Indeed -- cooperative multitasking and poor memory management.[04:52:00] <rkeene> Also, quite crashy[04:53:31] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: and colorless[04:53:49] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: even when it got color it was grey and boring looking[04:55:17] <Skipp_OSX> with no command line and limited app selection, yeah, it was just a joke, anybody could do better (and did)_[04:55:41] <rkeene> It was colorful[04:56:19] <Skipp_OSX> rkeene: not until MacOS 8 around 1998 or so. before that it was very grey looking[05:03:23] *** auronandace has quit IRC[05:10:46] <Duggan> what's wrong with having no command line? :P[05:15:57] *** auronandace has joined #haiku[05:18:11] <polifasio> there was applescript[05:25:15] <Skipp_OSX> polifasio: yes there was[05:37:13] <polifasio> hypercard[05:46:28] <dreamed> Duggan: people couldn't complain that their friendly easy to use mac was hard to use and unfriendly?[05:54:01] <Duggan> hehe I guess you got a point, though I never heard much of that to be honest[06:00:05] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[06:07:30] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[06:26:08] *** xissburg has quit IRC[06:29:01] <CIA-35> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42683 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/ (5 files in 2 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42683 :[06:29:01] <CIA-35> * as we are doing a lot of math on bios in gAtomContext, lets make it a[06:29:01] <CIA-35> uint8 vs a void pointer.[06:29:01] <CIA-35> * guys at AMD confirmed that the method looking directly at the object table[06:29:01] <CIA-35> should be the only method used on modern cards (r600 or later)[06:40:18] *** _taos_ has joined #haiku[06:45:08] *** xplt has joined #haiku[06:46:06] *** druidan has joined #haiku[06:50:55] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[06:53:29] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[06:54:47] *** druidan has quit IRC[06:59:00] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:12:25] *** P4R4N01D1 is now known as P4R4N01D[07:12:49] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[07:30:37] *** Disreali is now known as Disreali_away[07:49:25] *** _taos_ has quit IRC[07:55:17] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[07:58:00] *** paul0_ has joined #haiku[07:58:13] *** paul0 has quit IRC[07:58:13] *** paul0_ is now known as paul0[08:10:00] *** paul0 has quit IRC[08:10:20] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[08:12:14] *** adominguez has joined #haiku[08:15:58] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[08:22:06] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[08:22:18] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:23:28] *** elliottcable is now known as GONE[08:23:54] *** GONE is now known as sephr[08:24:48] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[08:26:54] *** sephr is now known as elliottcable_[08:27:03] *** elliottcable_ is now known as sephr_[08:27:54] *** sephr_ is now known as elliottcable[08:29:43] *** elliottcable is now known as system[08:29:55] *** system is now known as elliottcable[08:36:37] *** _taos_ has joined #haiku[08:37:50] *** Ketsuban has joined #haiku[08:40:57] <Ketsuban> How do I get Haiku to play nicely in VMware (e.g. automatically relinguishing mouse control when it leaves the window)? There's a thing on BeBits, but I'm not sure if using that is advisable, and if there's a better or more Haiku-specific way about it I'd prefer that.[08:42:23] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[08:46:15] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[08:46:18] *** paul0 has quit IRC[08:46:38] <Skipp_OSX> Ketsuban: there will be a VMware Tools for Haiku Real Soon Now[08:46:47] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[08:46:47] <Ketsuban> Ah, okay.[08:47:10] <Ketsuban> Where should I look forward to it?[08:53:08] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:55:29] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[08:55:50] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[08:56:19] <Duggan> a few weeks I think[08:56:25] <Duggan> one of the GSOC students is working on that[08:57:27] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX any luck with that bug?[08:58:03] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: no, I am working on a different app[08:58:11] <Duggan> ah ok[08:58:16] <Skipp_OSX> trying to get it to use the Layout Kit but it is frustratingly non-documented[08:58:58] <Duggan> in it's earlier days the layout kit was pretty terrible as it didn't really adhere to the example give in the blog entry, but it's not so bad now[08:59:19] <Duggan> I've written some apps that use it.... PIT uses it on a couple windows, but not all of them[08:59:20] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[09:00:29] <Duggan> anything I can help with?[09:02:56] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I don't think so, unless you are versed with the layout kit[09:03:47] <Duggan> I've used it before, it's not too hard[09:05:58] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: basically I want a grid of buttons that resize with the BGrideLayout[09:06:30] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: so as you resize the view, the Buttons inside resize along with it[09:07:59] <Duggan> ok, my first question would be whether the layout builder creates new views for each region or not[09:08:10] <Duggan> I *think* it does but I'm not sure[09:08:26] <Duggan> if so you should be able to use the BButton::Parent() or whatever it is to get that[09:08:37] <Duggan> then just resize to the same size as the parent...[09:08:58] *** Cian has joined #haiku[09:10:06] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: look, I don't know[09:10:31] <Duggan> if not, you may need to calculate manually[09:10:35] <Duggan> I know, sorry... was just trying to help[09:10:51] * Duggan shuts up.[09:11:55] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I know, its okay, I am just very very confused[09:12:27] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: by default it seems that the GridLayout doesn't resize, it only adjusts the spacing between the items[09:13:05] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I assume that there is a way to tell it to make the items resize with no spacing between them instead, but I would have to know what options to pass in and how[09:15:43] <Duggan> if it does, I don't know.... some controls are space hogs like BTextView which are given the space when a window is resized and uses the layout kit[09:16:51] <Duggan> buttons are not... if they were it would probably work how you want it to, but i think that functionality is given on a per-control basis and I don't know right off if there's a way to change that...[09:17:30] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:17:56] * Duggan starts looking through the source[09:19:00] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:19:21] <Duggan> are you using a BGridLayout or a BGridLayoutBuilder?[09:19:52] <Duggan> oh wait nevermind[09:20:05] <Duggan> :/[09:21:52] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: well, I was using the latter, but now I am moving on the former. But, they should be conceptually the same[09:26:52] <Duggan> try line 230: http://dev.haiku-os.org/browser/haiku/trunk/headers/os/interface/InterfaceDefs.h[09:27:14] <Duggan> that enum might help[09:28:39] <Duggan> then again, maybe passing 0 as both parameters to the constructor might work?...[09:28:58] <Duggan> (or some other value for some padding?)[09:30:27] *** dufu1982 has joined #haiku[09:30:34] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: well, that sets the default spacing to 0[09:30:48] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: but when you resize the window, it adds spacing, I want it to resize instead[09:31:05] *** markos_ has quit IRC[09:32:36] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: but unfortunately, I am giving up for the night so it insight will have to wait.[09:33:25] <Duggan> alright... was just going to ask if you've tried adding glue... I haven't really figured out exactly what it does, but it might help...[09:33:41] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I don't know what it does either.[09:33:48] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: It might be the trick I need[09:33:56] *** Ziusudra has left #haiku[09:34:29] *** paul0_ has joined #haiku[09:34:56] *** paul0 has quit IRC[09:34:57] *** paul0_ is now known as paul0[09:35:47] <Duggan> might be, if not, when you get back to it maybe checkout the members of BLayoutItem, they look like they *might* be useful too[09:38:54] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: Like I said, it will have to wait unfortunately[09:39:02] <Skipp_OSX> Going to bed, goodnight[09:39:46] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[09:42:03] *** VNA9216_ has joined #haiku[09:46:50] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:54:13] *** kieselsteini has joined #haiku[09:57:18] *** Out`Of`Control has joined #haiku[09:57:54] *** Cian has quit IRC[10:03:26] *** veve-mao has joined #haiku[10:11:24] *** xplt has quit IRC[10:11:25] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[10:15:13] *** The123king has joined #haiku[10:31:35] *** The123king1 has joined #haiku[10:33:58] *** The123king1 has quit IRC[10:34:07] *** The123king has quit IRC[10:51:08] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[10:56:35] *** [Katisu] has joined #haiku[11:05:38] *** luko has joined #haiku[11:13:37] <Teknomancer> morning[11:14:25] *** luko has quit IRC[11:15:29] *** lukove has joined #haiku[11:16:56] *** shevy has quit IRC[11:28:40] *** ab5tract has joined #haiku[11:32:51] *** shevy has joined #haiku[11:34:30] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[11:37:12] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[11:37:41] *** niadh has joined #haiku[11:38:14] <niadh> hello[11:47:20] <lukove> good morning[11:47:36] <jrabbit> Hi[11:50:36] <niadh> How is everyone?[11:51:54] <jrabbit> pretty good gonna get my touchpad today[11:52:26] <niadh> Awesome[11:53:16] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[11:53:26] <niadh> I was wondering if someone could help me get into haiku development, I am following the tutorials Darkwyrm put up, but on the first GUI stuff I can't even get the main window to appear[11:54:24] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[11:54:56] <jrabbit> niadh: getting a compile error?[11:55:42] <niadh> Let me just check[11:56:50] <niadh> No, looks like a linker error[11:58:54] <jrabbit> thats a good reason for it to not work ;)[11:59:04] <jrabbit> paste bin it and the code?[11:59:10] <niadh> I am doing[11:59:17] <niadh> Just making sure I miss nothing[11:59:34] <niadh> I am curious though if it's the gcc2/4 thing, but my system reports gcc2[11:59:46] <jrabbit> you can do setgcc gcc4[12:00:11] <jrabbit> though if you're not explicitly doing gcc4 stuff you shouldn't really need to[12:01:46] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:02:38] <niadh> This is the error: http://pastebin.com/GikzYps4[12:02:41] <niadh> code to follow[12:03:52] <mmu_man> niadh: you need to link to libbe to use BApplication[12:04:23] <mmu_man> best is to write a makefile btw[12:05:03] <mmu_man> or jamfile but I'm not sure it's fully working[12:05:11] <mmu_man> just:[12:05:11] <niadh> I was using paladin as suggested in the tutorial[12:05:34] <mmu_man> which ?[12:05:42] <mmu_man> I just joined the chan today[12:06:07] <mmu_man> anyway, doesn't paladin use makefiles ?[12:06:22] <niadh> I think it can generate them[12:06:40] <Teknomancer> niadh: I think it's better to learn to avoid such IDEs at the beginning :)[12:06:50] <niadh> Fine by me[12:06:55] <mmu_man> just cp /boot/develop/etc/makefile makefile[12:07:06] <mmu_man> edit it and change the SRCS and LIBS lines[12:07:10] <mmu_man> then just type[12:07:10] <mmu_man> make[12:07:12] <mmu_man> voila[12:07:37] <mmu_man> yeah IDEs are supposed to simplify the tasks when you *know* them already, not hide them to people learning[12:09:46] <niadh> Ok it's still not worked but FAR less errors now[12:10:03] <jrabbit> :)[12:11:24] <jrabbit> niadh: basically if you include somethign you'll need to link to it[12:12:08] <mmu_man> niadh: depending on which classes you use you must link to other libs too[12:12:16] <mmu_man> the BeBook usually tells you[12:12:26] <niadh> This is the make output: http://pastebin.com/6kSiShZb[12:12:52] <mmu_man> most kits reside in libbe[12:13:19] <mmu_man> that's a bug in your code[12:14:11] <mmu_man> and it's -lbe without the "lib" prefix[12:14:29] <jrabbit> niadh: you can only have one main ;P[12:15:25] <mmu_man> do you have any introductory books around ?[12:15:45] <niadh> Not to beos development[12:16:18] <niadh> I know I can have only one main method, but I only see one main method, I will however say it's been some time since I did oop[12:16:39] <niadh> So if's there's an oop way of defining a main function i may have forgotten it[12:17:34] <niadh> But again it's copied verbitam from the tutorials[12:17:42] <mmu_man> just get a C and C++ book[12:17:54] <mmu_man> no, main() is plain C[12:18:32] <mmu_man> hmm yeah but you must not dupplicate files on the command line ![12:18:36] <mmu_man> gcc -o "objects.x86-gcc2-release/X2" objects.x86-gcc2-release/App.o objects.x86-gcc2-release/App.o -L./ -llibbe[12:18:50] <mmu_man> ^ App.o twice... means you put App.cpp twice somewhere[12:19:18] <mmu_man> and it's -lbe so you just need to specify "be" for the libs[12:23:04] <niadh> ok: http://pastebin.com/FKH1wmzw[12:23:08] <niadh> that's app.cpp[12:23:15] *** lukove has quit IRC[12:23:47] <niadh> and app.h: http://pastebin.com/bjjX7E5s[12:25:11] <mmu_man> again it's not a code problem, you just tell gcc to use App.cpp twice and it doesn't like it[12:26:14] <mmu_man> did you create the makefile ?[12:26:59] <niadh> Wait, make file, yeah I think I might know where I did that[12:28:47] <niadh> I included the App.h file in the SRCS line[12:28:59] <niadh> Can you tell I know little about makefiles?[12:29:23] <mmu_man> .h files are *not* source files[12:29:31] <niadh> Fair enough, now I know[12:29:33] <niadh> Thank you[12:29:36] <mmu_man> it's a header file to be #included[12:30:11] <mmu_man> the makefile engine in Haiku just takes the names in SRCS and change the extension to .o to tell gcc, so you end up with 2 App.o[12:30:19] <niadh> Ah ok[12:34:04] <niadh> Well thank you very much, I have it working now, so I can continue later once I am back from work, but thank you again[12:34:14] <mmu_man> :)[12:34:48] *** niadh has quit IRC[12:39:32] <mmu_man> lol http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/22/building-robust-usb-3-0-support.aspx[12:39:59] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[12:50:21] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[12:52:27] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[13:10:23] *** ab5tract has quit IRC[13:34:39] *** lukove has joined #haiku[13:42:23] *** Ketsuban has quit IRC[13:49:26] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[13:57:25] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[13:58:16] *** Out`Of`Control has quit IRC[13:59:36] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[14:06:58] *** Mellowcow has joined #haiku[14:08:07] *** js has joined #haiku[14:08:50] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[14:13:26] *** lukove has quit IRC[14:19:46] *** Out`Of`Control has joined #haiku[14:20:14] *** luko has 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soon[21:55:40] <smop> hopefully[21:56:42] *** Shisui has quit IRC[22:00:41] *** x3nU has joined #haiku[22:00:44] <x3nU> hello[22:00:48] <x3nU> i have one stupid question[22:00:54] <x3nU> how to add something to haiku menu[22:00:55] <x3nU> ?[22:02:51] <mmadia> 1.) in the Deskbar (the blue leaf menu) click Preferences, then Deskbar. press [ Edit menu... ][22:03:03] <mmadia> 2.) navigate directly to /boot/home/config/be[22:04:28] <x3nU> thanks a lot[22:06:56] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:07:51] *** elliottcable is now known as ecdysis[22:08:49] *** ecdysis is now known as ecad[22:12:03] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[22:12:10] <Anarchos> geist is bsd license cool ?[22:12:31] <Anarchos> geist i am french i refuse to read license in another language than my mother one :)[22:12:41] <geist> it's probably okay[22:17:46] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:20:34] *** lukove has joined #haiku[22:22:47] <lukove> hi. its posible to use widescreen 1440x900 resolution with radeon 5450 in haiku nightly 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