August 23, 2011 
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August 23, 2011 [00:09:28] *** lukove has quit IRC[00:15:32] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:19:56] *** lukove has joined #haiku[00:21:55] *** cacayo has quit IRC[00:23:09] *** cacayo has joined #haiku[00:25:22] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:26:33] *** lukove has quit IRC[00:28:10] *** cacayo has quit IRC[00:35:39] *** oco2 has quit IRC[00:37:00] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[00:38:54] *** lukove has joined #haiku[00:40:06] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[00:42:13] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[00:46:12] *** lukove has quit IRC[00:50:15] *** oco2 has quit IRC[00:58:03] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:59:23] *** dak has quit IRC[01:04:41] *** scgtrp has joined #haiku[01:07:39] *** Phlox has joined #haiku[01:15:12] *** Barrett has quit IRC[01:24:04] *** AmineKhaldi has quit IRC[01:24:04] *** janus has quit IRC[01:25:07] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[01:25:07] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:28:01] <jrabbit> http://amiworkingforgithubnow.com/ github made another hire :p[01:29:28] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:29:32] *** AmineKhaldi has joined #haiku[01:29:32] *** janus has joined #haiku[01:29:46] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:34:14] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:34:31] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:34:38] *** Cian has quit IRC[01:37:03] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:37:21] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:38:40] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:38:56] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:43:32] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:43:49] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:43:53] *** me-alone has joined #haiku[01:44:17] <me-alone> hi why the name haiku is used for the OS ..?[01:45:44] <Ziusudra> The web browser in BeOS used haiku (the poems) for it's error messages[01:46:27] <Ziusudra> http://8325.org/haiku/[01:46:31] <me-alone> its cute idea , how is development going on[01:48:12] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:48:31] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:51:47] *** Mellowcow has joined #haiku[01:55:01] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:01:22] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[02:03:10] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[02:03:31] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:03:43] <mmadia> Disreali_ ?[02:04:11] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:07:19] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[02:13:29] <jrabbit> http://www.papercut.com/blog/chris/2011/08/19/who-broke-the-build/ haha[02:15:09] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[02:16:40] *** Pixel^_ has joined #haiku[02:17:09] *** me-alone has quit IRC[02:19:40] *** smop_ has joined #haiku[02:19:47] *** nopper` has joined #haiku[02:20:06] *** pfoetche1 has joined #haiku[02:22:30] *** nopper has quit IRC[02:22:30] *** smop has quit IRC[02:22:31] *** Mellowcow has quit IRC[02:22:31] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[02:22:32] *** sigma_g has quit IRC[02:22:32] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[02:22:32] *** Pixel^ has quit IRC[02:26:54] *** [r4] has quit IRC[02:33:15] *** xplt has quit IRC[02:39:40] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[02:40:08] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[02:43:35] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[02:47:09] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[02:47:40] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:48:53] <Disreali_> I've been having the hardest time to get Vision on Alpha3 release to work[02:49:11] <Disreali_> I finally had to install chatzilla[02:49:42] <mmadia> for your network connectivity issues or .. ?[02:51:47] <Disreali_> I've noticed that a3 is slower than what I remember in general, but Vision will connect to freenode and then not do anything else[02:52:55] <jrabbit> thats odd[02:53:04] <Disreali_> half the attempt, Vision gives the errormsg 'Connection Issues'[02:53:16] <jrabbit> are you using chat.freenode.org ?[02:53:28] <Disreali_> yes[02:53:39] <jrabbit> ah well sometimes I forget they use chat.*[02:54:26] *** xissburg has joined #haiku[02:54:53] *** [r4] has quit IRC[02:54:57] <Disreali_> I was previous using irc.freenode.net, but have tried many veriations and now just use the chat prefix[02:55:28] *** Disreali_ is now known as Disreali[02:55:42] *** duvjones has quit IRC[02:56:19] <jrabbit> Disreali: try connecting to a specific server[03:01:34] * Disreali searches for freenode server list[03:02:30] <helf2> im on calvino.freenode.net[03:03:01] <Ziusudra> leguin[03:03:45] <Ziusudra> card and wolfe are others[03:04:01] *** elliottcable is now known as what[03:04:10] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[03:05:18] <Disreali> odd. Vision connects but refusses to join any channels[03:05:41] *** _taos_ has quit IRC[03:06:00] *** _taos_ has joined #haiku[03:06:45] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[03:07:07] *** what is now known as elliottcable[03:07:33] <Disreali> has anyone else had issues with Vision on the Alpha3 release?[03:07:56] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:08:01] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[03:08:15] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[03:10:09] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[03:10:12] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[03:10:56] <Disreali> the Vision client always seems to have lag problems, but this ChatZilla doesn't? wtf[03:11:22] <Disreali> brb[03:12:30] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[03:12:46] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:13:04] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[03:13:24] <HaikuUser> hmm, this isn't Alpha3[03:13:59] *** HaikuUser is now known as Ziusudra[03:14:18] <Ziusudra> r42565[03:14:21] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[03:16:36] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[03:17:45] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:18:04] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[03:18:23] *** shevy has quit IRC[03:19:28] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[03:20:48] *** benjaminoakes_ has joined #haiku[03:22:21] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:22:21] *** sigma_g has joined #haiku[03:22:39] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[03:23:58] <benjaminoakes_> Hi all, I'm gauging interest in porting Node.js and Node.js bindings for Haiku. Interested? Please see: https://github.com/benjaminoakes/node-haiku and https://github.com/benjaminoakes/node[03:25:54] <mmadia> have you seen the language bindings GSoC project, benjaminoakes_?[03:26:47] <mmadia> https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/jalopeura[03:26:51] <benjaminoakes_> I heard there was some interest in JavaScript being a target, but I was having trouble finding anything specifically about that in the mailing lists, blogs, etc. Have a link?[03:26:56] <benjaminoakes_> ah, spoke too soon :)[03:26:57] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:27:22] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:27:58] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[03:29:41] <Disreali> my landlord replaced my Linksys router with one supplied by timewarner[03:30:51] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[03:32:03] *** shevy has joined #haiku[03:32:46] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[03:35:35] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[03:37:29] <benjaminoakes_> mmadia: know of any links where people have mentioned they're interested in JS support (node or otherwise)? I found some at http://haiku-os.org/node/4096[03:41:27] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[03:45:43] *** Nozy has quit IRC[03:49:42] <jrabbit> benjaminoakes_: rightnow nodejs doesn't work[03:49:56] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:49:56] <jrabbit> if you can get it or another js core going...[03:50:18] <benjaminoakes_> has anyone started an effort to get V8/Node ported?[03:50:42] <benjaminoakes_> That's the point of my fork (https://github.com/benjaminoakes/node) if no one else has done any work on it.[03:50:50] <jrabbit> I'ce attempted to build it[03:50:55] <jrabbit> it fails misribly[03:51:22] <jrabbit> you have to use each project's build system because the python script it uses is totally unportable[03:53:54] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[03:54:04] <benjaminoakes_> interesting... doesn't it build on several systems already?[03:54:38] <benjaminoakes_> did I'ce make a blog entry or anything about his experience?[03:55:37] <Ziusudra> I think "I'ce" was supposed to be "I've"[03:55:40] <benjaminoakes_> eah[03:55:43] <benjaminoakes_> just figured that[03:55:45] <benjaminoakes_> lol[03:55:59] <benjaminoakes_> I was thinking it was a strange nick[03:56:05] <jrabbit> ?[03:56:12] <jrabbit> ??[03:56:34] <benjaminoakes_> jrabbit: did you write something up about your experience?[03:56:39] <jrabbit> benjaminoakes_: its build system sucks in theory it should work but in practice it needs a lot of work[03:56:42] <jrabbit> No.[03:57:05] <jrabbit> someone who actually knows it might be able to get it work[03:57:07] <jrabbit> *to[03:57:46] <jrabbit> but the over arching build system is hardwired to look for -lpthreads and we include that -lm which it doesn't care about and theres no way to override the check[03:58:45] <benjaminoakes_> gotcha[03:59:20] <jrabbit> basically anything less hackish would work better[04:01:49] <benjaminoakes_> well, could be interesting to figure out, I guess :)[04:01:58] <Skipp_OSX> does anyone have a Haiku instance running between Alpha3 and current?[04:03:04] <benjaminoakes_> Skipp_OSX: I have alpha3 -- why?[04:04:34] <Duggan2> Skipp_OSX I do, what's up?[04:04:42] <Skipp_OSX> benjaminoakes_: well, I am testing http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6481 I can reproduce it on alpha3 but not on a later version, trying to narrow down the revision that changed it[04:04:52] <Duggan2> r42587 right now[04:05:24] *** Phlox has quit IRC[04:05:33] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: Okay, open ActivityMonitor and keep doing File->Add Graph until it crashes or you give up[04:05:39] <benjaminoakes_> Skipp_OSX: ah, sorry -- can't help you (at r42211 aka alpha3)[04:05:45] <Duggan2> how many should it take?[04:06:08] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: depends on how many cores you got, about 7 per core[04:07:15] <Duggan2> I did it a couple dozen times, lost count... it didn't crash, but it hung[04:07:21] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: you might want to open a Terminal first so that you can easily kill the app[04:07:33] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: yeah, hang not crash that is what I experienced...[04:07:48] <Duggan2> yep, still happens on r42587[04:09:01] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: okay thank you so that narrows it down a bit.[04:09:06] <Duggan2> no prob[04:09:43] <Duggan2> like I said, took a couple dozen times though[04:10:03] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: yeah that is expected[04:10:21] <Duggan2> alright, best of luck[04:10:58] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: I am compiling the latest to see if I can reproduce it there, It seems fixed on one of my branches but it is hard to tell if the fix came from something I did or something someone else did.[04:11:31] <Duggan2> gotcha... most likely something someone else did, I haven't seen or heard of any work being done and I figure the ticket would be marked as fixed if that were the case[04:11:44] <Duggan2> work being done on it[04:12:04] <Duggan2> sorry I misspoke again.... something YOU did, not someone else[04:12:15] <Duggan2> I'm good at that lately :/[04:12:17] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan2: right, might be, not sure yet[04:15:19] <DDevine> jrabbit Ah yeah I had problems trying to get Autotools to pick up the math library ("-lm") for Stackless Python and I never worked that out.[04:15:43] <Duggan2> autotools suck :/[04:15:53] <DDevine> Theoretically you can get it by searching for a trig function - and then Autotools should find the right library but that didn't work.[04:17:23] <DDevine> I will get around to learning more about how it works so that I can possibly help port things. It's completely developer unfriendly as far as I can see.[04:17:45] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:18:27] <jrabbit> DDevine: oh thats slightly different :)[04:18:28] <benjaminoakes_> DDevine: I gathered that as well. Node seems like a very... adolescent project[04:18:53] <DDevine> benjaminoakes_: Yes, it most certainly is.[04:19:44] <DDevine> I've had troubles with just trying to run a node.js project under Linux, let alone trying to port it.[04:20:14] <jrabbit> its not even in debian testing yet[04:20:19] <DDevine> Yes it is.[04:20:35] <benjaminoakes_> DDevine: I haven't run into that myself, but I can believe it. What project?[04:20:48] <DDevine> At least as far as I know - Buddycloud says you can just apt-get it.[04:20:57] <DDevine> Without installing a repo.[04:21:18] <DDevine> Though possibly they mean under... *sigh* Ubuntu[04:21:30] <benjaminoakes_> It's starting to gain more acceptance. Heroku has a new stack that supports it.[04:22:00] <DDevine> benjaminoakes_: Buddycloud - federated social networking based on XMPP. It's probably aslo going to be big part of the Freedombox project too.[04:22:09] <benjaminoakes_> (which, I believe, is Ubuntu-based unlike Aspen and Bamboo, which were Debian)[04:22:34] <benjaminoakes_> DDevine: interesting, I haven't heard of that[04:22:51] <DDevine> I can't believe people use Ubuntu. It's the wost distribution I've come across. It's insulting on so many levels.[04:23:04] <benjaminoakes_> Buddycloud seems like Diaspora... maybe done right[04:23:10] <DDevine> yes - done right.[04:23:21] <jrabbit> they jsut need an open spec[04:23:32] <DDevine> Diaspora is a flaming pile of crap run by some silly hipsters who have no management or community skills.[04:23:41] <benjaminoakes_> true[04:23:48] <jrabbit> yeah the execution of diaspora is poor[04:23:51] <DDevine> (I hope that didn't come across too mean)[04:23:53] <jrabbit> the design is sound[04:24:01] <DDevine> In places they got it right[04:24:18] <DDevine> But overall it needs ot be scrapped and rebuilt.[04:24:24] <DDevine> (and for fucks sake, not in Ruby)[04:24:31] <jrabbit> nothign wrong with ruby[04:24:45] <DDevine> Nothing wrong with the language.[04:25:07] <benjaminoakes_> They did get some things right, but I was unimpressed with their security and distributed stuff. Seems like CouchDB might have been a good option for them[04:25:38] <DDevine> Buddycloud can use Couch.[04:25:48] <DDevine> Doesn't have to, but can.[04:25:51] <benjaminoakes_> jrabbit, DDevine: glad that didn't turn into something -- I'm a big Ruby fan as well[04:26:25] <benjaminoakes_> DDevine: the replication features of Couch seemed like a good fit to me -- not sure what other stores they support, though[04:27:13] <DDevine> benjaminoakes_: you could do HA with couch under Buddycloud, but I think there isn't much point given the architecture of XMPP.[04:27:37] <DDevine> So if you had a very popular channel server you would probably want a nice "web scale" cluster.[04:27:57] <DDevine> And the dataset is well suited to No-SQL databases as I understand.[04:28:05] <DDevine> Wasn't twitter using Mongo?[04:28:20] <Skipp_OSX> It does indeed crash in the latest Haiku from trunk... I can't image that I would have done anything that would have fixed this bug though...[04:28:44] <benjaminoakes_> DDevine: Cassandra. I know one of the devs.[04:29:04] <DDevine> Ah. Cool.[04:29:36] <DDevine> At LCA2011 there was a very good talk about which NoSQL DB to pick depending on your dataset.[04:30:02] <jrabbit> camlistore! :p[04:30:15] <jrabbit> (thats not realted at all)[04:30:17] <benjaminoakes_> It's an interesting space to watch. Lots of interesting ideas getting started. However, I don't know what to think of UnQL[04:30:31] <benjaminoakes_> http://www.unqlspec.org/display/UnQL/Home[04:30:51] <benjaminoakes_> http://www.unqlspec.org/display/UnQL/Example+Queries+and+Usage[04:30:53] <DDevine> benjaminoakes_: Yeah I don't know what to think about that yet either.[04:31:44] <benjaminoakes_> seems like they could replace the SQL verbs with HTTP verbs and have something nicer "feeling"[04:31:59] <DDevine> http://conf.linux.org.au/wiki/Videos - I think the talk was done by Stuart Smith.[04:32:50] <benjaminoakes_> ...not seeing anything related there[04:33:01] <DDevine> All the keynotes were pretty good. I enjoyed Mark Pesce's very much though they were forced to do some editing on it (sadly).[04:33:25] <DDevine> benjaminoakes_: It's in there, I just don't know which one. I can ask my LUG channel and I'll get back to you.[04:33:59] <benjaminoakes_> it'd be interesting -- but I need to head out soon. Getting late here (US East Coast)[04:36:14] <Skipp_OSX> benjaminoakes_: same timezone here, not that late for me :)[04:36:34] <benjaminoakes_> :) still got to get some stuff together for work tomorrow[04:38:08] <benjaminoakes_> and with that... I'm out. Thanks guys.[04:38:36] *** benjaminoakes_ has quit IRC[04:48:21] *** scgtrp has quit IRC[04:51:07] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[04:51:44] <Skipp_OSX> well, shoot, it locked up, I guess I didn't fix anything either :0[05:01:26] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:08:40] *** _taos_ has quit IRC[05:22:52] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[05:23:56] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:25:11] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[05:29:40] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:30:31] <xissburg> http://i.imgur.com/VpHb9.jpg[05:30:39] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[05:40:29] <polifasio> xissburg: oy. He sticks to one site for 8 hours.[05:41:21] <xissburg> well, and its not just any site[05:46:10] <polifasio> I would've said that it was a version of this effect: http://xkcd.com/214/[05:56:42] *** [r4] has quit IRC[06:01:12] *** xissburg has quit IRC[06:08:02] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[06:25:24] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[06:27:22] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[06:28:01] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[06:28:35] <Disreali> finally! vision connected[06:28:54] <Disreali> only took 20 minutes[06:29:58] <jrabbit> lol[06:30:11] <jrabbit> Disreali: trace it maybe[06:32:22] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[06:35:25] <Disreali> jrabbit: I think it has to do with my landlord replacing my personal expertly configured router, with one from time warner[06:36:03] <jrabbit> oh[06:36:13] <jrabbit> do you still have it?[06:42:11] <Disreali> yes, but it seems the cable and ac adapter I need to hook it up are missing[06:43:35] <Disreali> I'll just have to get the router's password and configure it to match my linksys's config[06:44:29] <OmniMancer> also try to get your adapter and cable back[06:46:09] <Disreali> indeed[06:49:30] <CIA-35> wxWidgets Toolkit for Haiku: mrNoisy * r69 /wx/trunk/src/haiku/region.cpp : Added missing check for the existence of m_refData in wxRegion::DoUnionWithRect(const wxRect& r)[07:00:53] <Corn_man> All I know is my gut says maybe.[07:08:50] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[07:11:34] *** brianb_ has joined #haiku[07:14:18] *** fhein has joined #haiku[07:15:01] *** brianb has quit IRC[07:16:35] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[07:20:19] *** mr-rich has joined #haiku[07:21:22] *** Issac-S has joined #haiku[07:21:46] <mr-rich> Hello. Trying to install Alpha 3 on VirtualBox. If I use anything but the Intel network cards, Haiku locks up solid on bootup. Any ideas?[07:22:26] *** duvjones has quit IRC[07:23:52] <jrabbit> mr-rich: whats wrogn with the intel cards? :P[07:24:21] <mr-rich> jrabbit: not supported?[07:24:24] <jrabbit> pcnet support came in a recent nightly[07:24:31] <jrabbit> mr-rich: the intel cards work[07:24:32] <mr-rich> jrabbit: or so I heard ...[07:24:56] <jrabbit> use the one that works :P[07:25:09] <mr-rich> jrabbit: ok, well, then, I see no adapter when I try to set up netowrking ...[07:25:18] <OmniMancer> the intel cards are supposed to work[07:25:37] <jrabbit> you don't setup networking.[07:25:59] <OmniMancer> please elaborate on "set up networking"[07:26:12] <mr-rich> in preferences ...[07:26:44] <mr-rich> nothing appears in the adaptor drop down ...[07:27:03] <jrabbit> how old of a vritual box is it?[07:27:07] <OmniMancer> what does ifconfig in terminal say?[07:27:41] <OmniMancer> for a while the intel cards were the only ones that worked[07:27:48] <Disreali> set the vm to use one of the intel cats, boot haiku in vbox. networking should work[07:27:58] *** Issac-S is now known as duvjones[07:28:47] <OmniMancer> there was that discussion on the dev list about the freeBSD ipro driver being three drivers internally thing[07:29:08] <Disreali> that is on real hw[07:29:46] <mr-rich> ifconfig shows just loop ...[07:29:50] <OmniMancer> in case you didn't notice drivers don't magically change when you use virtual box[07:29:55] <jrabbit> mr-rich: what vbox verison[07:29:59] <Disreali> afaik, the intel drive has not yet been changed, but i'm still months behind on the mail list[07:30:09] <mr-rich> Latest ... 4.0.10 ...[07:30:27] <OmniMancer> it may not have changed yet so then it should work[07:30:31] <OmniMancer> but *shrug*[07:30:38] <mr-rich> oops ... 4.0.12 ...[07:30:51] <jrabbit> did they change it?[07:30:54] <jrabbit> check the changelog[07:31:06] <Disreali> I now the intelMT drive work on vbox 3.x[07:31:17] <Disreali> know[07:31:39] <jrabbit> its been working in alpha3 and nightlies for me in 4.x >_>[07:31:47] <jrabbit> mr-rich: I think theres newer[07:32:24] <jrabbit> mr-rich: 4.1.2[07:32:28] <jrabbit> yeah you have an old one[07:32:29] <mr-rich> There are two intel cards that VB show ... both don't show in prefs ...[07:32:39] <Disreali> http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing/virtualbox[07:32:55] <mr-rich> VB usually tells me if there is an update available ...[07:33:09] <mr-rich> Host os is Kubuntu 11.4[07:33:14] <mr-rich> Host os is Kubuntu 11.04[07:33:55] <Disreali> http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing/virtualbox#part_trouble[07:35:11] <jrabbit> mr-rich: download the new virtual box :P[07:36:15] <mr-rich> does Haiku support bridged networking?[07:36:39] <jrabbit> haiku doesn't know or care about the vbox network mode[07:38:37] <mr-rich> Disreali: I followed your link ... selected the PRO desktop card ... freezes on boot after the rocket lights up ...[07:38:55] <jrabbit> mr-rich: te the proper vbox[07:39:04] <jrabbit> this is probsably a vbox problem that they fixed mnoths ago[07:40:14] <mr-rich> I'm using the latest vbox ... 4.0.12 ...[07:40:25] <jrabbit> $ VBoxManage -h[07:40:25] <jrabbit> Oracle VM VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 4.1.2[07:40:27] <jrabbit> :|[07:40:53] <jrabbit> is vbox manage's version not virtualbox's :|[07:41:24] <OmniMancer> get mr-rich to find that version[07:41:46] <jrabbit> nope yeha you have an old one[07:41:51] <jrabbit> mr-rich: where are you getting it from?[07:42:13] <jrabbit> Ubuntu probably has an olkd one use the one from oracle/sun/*[07:42:24] <jrabbit> or a ppa with the latest[07:43:19] <OmniMancer> ubuntu enjoys giving you out of date software[07:43:34] <OmniMancer> possibly so they can easily bombard you with updates[07:44:09] <mr-rich> jebus ... when the hell was 4.1 released???[07:44:43] <jrabbit> :P[07:46:01] <mr-rich> Now I'm in #vbox asking ... :)[07:47:29] <jrabbit> ?[07:52:38] <OmniMancer> he wants to know when iut was updated :P[07:55:06] *** [r4] has quit IRC[08:00:05] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[08:01:58] <jrabbit> oh[08:02:05] <jrabbit> changelog would say[08:07:51] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[08:17:13] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[08:22:27] *** adominguez has joined #haiku[08:23:48] *** _taos_ has joined #haiku[08:35:30] *** mr-rich-haiku has joined #haiku[08:35:56] <mr-rich-haiku> Ok ... upgrading to 4.1.2 worked ... :)[08:36:25] <mr-rich-haiku> nite all ...[08:36:28] *** mr-rich-haiku has quit IRC[08:40:15] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:46:11] *** [r4] has quit IRC[08:47:19] *** markos_ has quit IRC[08:47:44] *** Cian has joined #haiku[08:52:43] *** duvjones has quit IRC[08:56:49] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[08:59:51] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[09:00:08] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[09:07:29] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[09:10:24] * Disreali is idle: sleep[09:10:37] *** Disreali is now known as Disreali_away[09:11:15] *** VNA9216_ has joined #haiku[09:13:40] *** Mellowcow has joined #haiku[09:15:37] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[09:16:24] *** markos_ has 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have FFM enabled :p[16:20:51] <polifasio> i've been here a while, but i hadn't heard that one. http://www.acronymfinder.com/FFM.html[16:21:13] <helf> focus follows mouse[16:21:18] <polifasio> ah[16:21:49] <polifasio> better than female female male[16:22:02] <helf> lol[16:22:09] <HeTo> it is better?[16:22:11] <Teknomancer> i never use focus follow mouse[16:22:20] <helf> i likeit[16:22:26] <polifasio> (or not)[16:22:43] <polifasio> bbl[16:25:06] <phoudoin> Maybe HeTo question was about female female male...[16:25:11] <phoudoin> ;-)[16:25:33] <Teknomancer> yeah ik :)[16:29:02] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[16:30:20] *** _taos_ has joined #haiku[16:33:56] *** dufu1982 has joined #haiku[16:35:05] *** DDevine has quit IRC[16:41:40] * Disreali_away is wake[16:41:55] <Disreali_away> need coffee...[16:53:14] *** dobroerlanger has joined #haiku[16:56:17] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:57:30] <Disreali_away> hmm... hackity hack looks interesting.[16:58:12] <Disreali_away> would be neat if it could 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I'm testing Caz's port of Snes[19:28:37] <Anarchos> wow i love snes games :)[19:28:44] <Anarchos> snes9x is working for me on haiku[19:28:47] <Anarchos> bye i go to lunch[19:29:05] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[19:29:29] <Disreali> http://www.beemulated.net/console/snes.phtml[19:32:02] *** shevy has joined #haiku[19:36:27] *** DraX_ is now known as DraX[19:36:33] *** DraX has quit IRC[19:36:33] *** DraX has joined #haiku[19:37:42] *** judgen has joined #haiku[19:38:10] <judgen> Sorry for beeing stupid, but can not BootManager add partitions from many different Disks, or just from one at a time?[19:47:44] *** lukove has joined #haiku[19:53:08] *** lukove has quit IRC[19:53:31] *** judgen has quit IRC[19:53:54] * Disreali is idle: BRB[19:54:09] <shevy> go haiku go![19:54:17] <Disreali> :)[19:55:07] <Disreali> SWeet! smsplus has been updated[19:55:07] *** _marc` has quit IRC[19:55:19] <Disreali> http://cgfm2.emuviews.com/[19:57:46] *** lorglas has quit IRC[19:58:03] *** Disreali has quit IRC[20:00:30] *** luko has joined #haiku[20:01:48] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[20:02:54] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[20:06:08] *** Disreali has quit IRC[20:07:11] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[20:07:26] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[20:08:03] *** luko has quit IRC[20:11:57] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[20:11:57] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[20:12:12] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[20:13:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[20:16:33] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[20:17:55] *** Tukeke has joined #haiku[20:17:55] *** Tukeke has joined #haiku[20:18:55] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[20:19:15] <CIA-35> Haiku: siarzhuk * r42677 /haiku/vendor/freebsd/current/dev/ (43 files in 2 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42677 : Going to update ipro1000 to FreeBSD 8.2 state.[20:19:51] *** Tukeke has left #haiku[20:22:18] <CIA-35> Haiku: siarzhuk * r42678 /haiku/vendor/freebsd/RELEASE_8_2_0/dev/e1000/ http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42678 : Tagging ipro1000 (e1000) to RELEASE_8_2_0[20:24:42] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[20:28:35] *** luko has joined #haiku[20:34:03] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[20:35:04] *** luko has quit IRC[20:37:08] <CIA-35> Haiku: korli * r42679 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/busses/usb/ (ehci.cpp ehci.h ehci_hardware.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42679 : (log message trimmed)[20:37:08] <CIA-35> * threshold higher bit means a full frame. Also use the threshold for micro frames instead of frames.[20:37:08] <CIA-35> * introduces fNextStartingFrame to keep track of the next frame to use on next submit.[20:37:08] <CIA-35> * set the IOC bit for the last ITD[20:37:08] <CIA-35> * computes multiply field of the ITD based on the packed size (1, 2 or 3).[20:37:08] <CIA-35> * use locking around linking of ITD[20:37:09] <CIA-35> * free descriptors on errors[20:49:11] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[20:50:24] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[20:52:45] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[20:53:36] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[20:54:37] <CIA-35> Haiku: siarzhuk * r42680 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/ (44 files in 2 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42680 :[20:54:37] <CIA-35> * ipro1000 driver updated to FreeBSD 8.2 level:[20:54:37] <CIA-35> it incorporate now "em" and "lem" freebsd drivers.[20:54:37] <CIA-35> Note: if_igb is not used - too much "undeclared"[20:54:37] <CIA-35> stuff required from the compatibility layer. :-([20:59:43] *** Cld has quit IRC[21:00:44] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[21:01:22] *** Cld has joined #haiku[21:01:52] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[21:03:15] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[21:03:52] *** dla09 has joined #haiku[21:08:08] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[21:08:37] *** pfoetche1 is now known as pfoetchen[21:10:37] <Anarchos> hi pfoetchen[21:10:57] *** dobroerlanger has quit IRC[21:11:08] <pfoetchen> hi Anarchos any progress on the sparc port ;) ?[21:12:25] *** dufu1982 has quit IRC[21:12:41] *** judgen has joined #haiku[21:13:53] <Anarchos> pfoetchen i have a Jamfile[21:14:02] <Anarchos> i am ready to begin to translate code...[21:17:26] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:19:29] *** Kernel86_ has joined #haiku[21:19:34] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[21:22:57] <pfoetchen> hehe now starts the hard part ;)[21:24:24] <Anarchos> pfoetchen yes...[21:26:38] *** mmlr has quit IRC[21:26:43] <shevy> man, "pfoetchen" is a great nick[21:27:08] <pfoetchen> hehe[21:36:18] <Disreali> ??[21:37:22] *** Duggan2 has quit IRC[21:42:38] *** cherrypai has joined #haiku[21:44:48] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[21:51:35] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[21:53:09] *** Cld has quit IRC[21:54:28] *** cherrypai has quit IRC[21:54:50] *** Cld has joined #haiku[21:55:56] <CIA-35> Haiku: zooey * r42681 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/support/bstring/StringReplaceTest.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42681 :[21:55:56] <CIA-35> * add tests for BString that expose a problem in the looping Replace() implementations[21:55:56] <CIA-35> on single chars[21:55:56] <CIA-35> * automatic whitespace cleanup[22:00:01] <CIA-35> Haiku: zooey * r42682 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/support/String.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42682 :[22:00:02] <CIA-35> * fix stuck loops in Replace...() on single chars in case the old and new character[22:00:02] <CIA-35> are the same (Eclipse was complaining about 'assignment to self', which got me[22:00:02] <CIA-35> looking at the code ...)[22:00:57] <shevy> Disreali it means "little paw", I think. but it sounds kind of "tapsig" ... you know, lumbering, cute...[22:03:04] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[22:06:24] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:12:00] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[22:14:14] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[22:14:27] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[22:17:14] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[22:17:46] *** judgen has quit IRC[22:17:52] *** jstressman has quit IRC[22:19:16] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[22:47:54] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[22:47:57] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[22:58:25] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[22:58:41] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[23:01:38] *** dru_ has quit IRC[23:02:58] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[23:07:00] *** piepsi has joined #haiku[23:13:49] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:21:22] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:21:45] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[23:35:02] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[23:56:40] *** _marc` has quit IRC[23:58:39] *** jstressman has quit IRC