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[01:03:26] <Duggan> those survey results are pretty interesting, but not very surprising...
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[01:11:36] <Disreali> Welcome to the Land of Oz
[01:12:35] <Disreali> <smalprint> beware flying monkeys. </smallprint>
[01:16:42] <Duggan> hehe hey Disreali
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[01:49:46] <me-alone> hi...is there a time line for haiku stable release ..?
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[01:54:21] <Duggan> nope... just when it's ready
[01:55:19] <me-alone> Duggan, any spaculation..?
[01:55:45] <Duggan> nope
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[01:56:22] <Duggan> next release will likely be the first beta, and who knows how many of those we'll go through before R1
[01:57:44] <me-alone> i am really excited . i loved bebox I want to try something new other than windows
[01:57:59] <Duggan> you can use it already :) it's my primary OS
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[01:59:31] <me-alone> i will must give it a try on my spare hardware
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[02:03:05] <Duggan> if you need any help, feel free to ask
[02:03:46] <me-alone> does it has its boot loader
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[02:10:57] <Duggan> it does but I've heard some people are having some troubles with it at present, but give it a shot anyway
[02:12:50] <Duggan> I don't use it myself, I use the windows one, it works fine for me
[02:13:34] <Duggan> (the one Vista uses)
[02:13:46] <OmniMancer> hmm?
[02:14:14] <Duggan> boot loaders
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<sikosis> hey all ... if you have a flash enabled machine ... we're kicking off Haiku Down Under shortly -> http://haikudownunder.com/
[02:19:54] <OmniMancer> ironic that a haiku conference cannot be watched in haiku :P
[02:20:58] <mmadia> and is IRC via #haiku-au, sikosis?
[02:22:49] <OmniMancer> I guess there isn't a #haiku-nz as it would contain all of 1 or two people :P
[02:23:15] <mmadia> you and gabriel? :)
[02:28:18] <sikosis> yep mmadia .... have to be in the channel for the prizes :)
[02:28:24] <sikosis> about to start
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[02:36:48] <Duggan> I'd LOVE to watch.... but I'm in Haiku :P
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[02:59:02] <umccullough> use the vmx we provide
[02:59:13] <umccullough> it changes the network chip in vmware to ipro1000 instead of vlance/pcnet
[02:59:21] <silvertip257> ahhh
[02:59:23] <silvertip257> great
[02:59:26] <umccullough> the nightly images include a driver for that chip, but not a3
[02:59:34] <silvertip257> I see
[03:00:20] <umccullough> btw, we do provide vmware images
[03:04:33] <silvertip257> yes - I saw that, but I prefer to find out how well an OS supports hardware.
[03:04:52] <umccullough> ok
[03:05:04] <umccullough> keep in mind, our vmware images are the exact same, with a vmdk header tacked onto the front
[03:05:12] <silvertip257> ah
[03:05:13] <umccullough> so, it's not anything special
[03:05:29] <umccullough> the vmx is the only thing that's "unique" per-se
[03:06:39] <umccullough> but yeah, i use anyboot images on usb sticks for all my hardware testing ;)
[03:06:54] <jrabbit> yay libptp2 chdk merged
[03:08:37] <silvertip257> umccullough: yeah - that's what I'm thinking. Might try Haiku on an Asus eee pc once I replace the hard drive.
[03:08:48] <silvertip257> (boot via USB + install)
[03:10:31] <umccullough> i almost bought another asus netbook today...
[03:10:38] <umccullough> $99 at best buy for an open-box 10.1"
[03:10:46] <umccullough> but... well i was looking for touchpads ;)
[03:11:00] <umccullough> haiku runs awesome on my Acer Aspire One
[03:12:25] <silvertip257> I got this netbook because the owner gave the hdd a hard shock/hit ... doesn't have the reinstall disk
[03:12:45] <umccullough> yeah, i don't think my aa1 came with a reinstall disc either
[03:12:52] <silvertip257> so yeah I'm going to probably toss a Linux distro (and maybe Haiku) on it now ... well when I have a new hdd
[03:13:10] <umccullough> not sure about the eeepc's, but haiku generally runs well on the atoms
[03:13:22] <umccullough> it runs decently on my atom330 box too
[03:13:25] <silvertip257> that eee pc has dual 1.2 atoms
[03:13:33] <silvertip257> 1.2 GHz
[03:13:38] <umccullough> dual?
[03:13:42] <umccullough> maybe hyperthreaded...
[03:13:49] <silvertip257> I believe so - yeah probably HT
[03:14:01] <umccullough> yeah, my aa1 is an N270 hyperthreaded
[03:14:11] <umccullough> the atom330 is dual core, and I have a D510 which is dual core
[03:14:42] <umccullough> dual core hyperthreaded, so it shows 4 processors in haiku :D
[03:14:47] <silvertip257> hehe
[03:16:41] <silvertip257> To get other applications (Firefox, etc) I need to check out BeBits? If there's docs on this point me to them.
[03:17:05] <umccullough> installoptionalpackage bezillabrowser
[03:17:11] <silvertip257> ah
[03:17:25] <umccullough> it's pretty old though
[03:17:34] <umccullough> based on firefox2
[03:17:49] <umccullough> bebits or haikuware if you wanna find stuff
[03:17:49] <silvertip257> ah -- DeerPark probably
[03:17:53] <umccullough> yep
[03:18:09] <umccullough> installoptionalpackage has a few maintained apps
[03:18:20] <umccullough> i think if you run it standalone it provides a list of apps
[03:18:26] <umccullough> like git, cvs, etc
[03:18:26] <jrabbit> silvertip257: I'd recommend webpositive or arora/qt
[03:18:39] <umccullough> yeah, web+ should come with haiku already
[03:18:45] <umccullough> at least, the a3
[03:18:48] <silvertip257> jrabbit: yeah Arora on Linux is awesome
[03:18:56] <umccullough> web+ is also based on webkit
[03:18:58] <silvertip257> so I would figure it's great on Haiku
[03:19:04] <silvertip257> yep web+ is on the image already
[03:19:24] <jrabbit> silvertip257: web+ holds its own for most stuff.
[03:19:51] <umccullough> it renders pretty well at least ;)
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[03:20:21] * silvertip257 says time to order the hdd so I can start installing operating systems on it
[03:20:42] <umccullough> my aa1 has a 160gb in it
[03:20:51] <umccullough> it has linux, winxp, and several versions of haiku ;)
[03:21:00] <silvertip257> that's what I"ll probably buy or maybe something bigger if the price is right
[03:21:16] <umccullough> i installed haiku's bootloader menu
[03:21:20] <umccullough> so it's the real deal
[03:21:22] <silvertip257> oh another question - what does the file system support look like ... heck I don't know what Haiku uses as a default fs
[03:21:31] <umccullough> haiku uses BFS
[03:21:38] <umccullough> or rather, openbfs
[03:21:52] <umccullough> it supports read support on ext2/3 and maybe 4
[03:21:58] <umccullough> also read support on btrfs i think
[03:22:02] <umccullough> and reiserfs
[03:22:09] <umccullough> write support on fat
[03:22:18] <umccullough> and i think it supports read/write on ntfs now
[03:22:31] <silvertip257> sweet
[03:22:36] <umccullough> we might even have write support on ext2, not sure
[03:22:54] <umccullough> furthermore, there is a FUSE driver for BFS on linux
[03:23:02] <umccullough> so you can read/write haiku's filesystem
[03:23:33] <umccullough> bbiab
[03:24:31] <silvertip257> that's nice that there's a FUSE driver for Linux. I was going to ask something to that effect.
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[03:25:10] <silvertip257> well thanks for the info - I'll probably be back once I: 1- get a new drive, 2- install all my OSes ;)
[03:25:56] <jrabbit> I don't tihnk you need the FUSE fs the kernel has support iirc
[03:26:00] <jrabbit> maybe not write though
[03:26:05] <silvertip257> ah
[03:26:36] <silvertip257> Haiku doesn't happen to support LVM in any way does it?
[03:26:36] <umccullough> yeah, the old befs driver for linux is readonly
[03:26:41] <umccullough> nope
[03:26:43] <silvertip257> hehe
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[03:26:52] <silvertip257> my OS install was going to be on LVM on the eee pc
[03:27:41] <umccullough> haiku understands primary and extended partitions, but not much else
[03:27:53] <umccullough> i think it can handle GPT vs MBR as well
[03:29:12] <jrabbit> yay gpt :P
[03:30:23] <silvertip257> meh not a big problem ... I'll just have to resize my LVM phys vol if I need more space :D
[03:30:52] <silvertip257> thanks for the info guys - good night
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[04:27:58] <Xeon4D> 'Evening.
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[04:57:20] <Nozy> hey
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[05:07:45] <diegoviola> hi
[05:07:48] <diegoviola> i want to try haiku
[05:08:01] <diegoviola> should i try the latest images in haiku-os.org?
[05:08:07] <diegoviola> or there is nightly builds?
[05:08:07] <umccullough> great news! we aren't going to stop you!
[05:08:23] <stpere> umccullough: :)
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[05:08:37] <diegoviola> ty
[05:09:47] <umccullough> more links in the topic :)
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[05:17:03] <diegoviola> ty
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[05:56:28] <OmniMancer> hi Disreali
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[06:29:33] <OmniMancer> hi Disreali
[06:29:43] <Disreali> hey there
[06:31:09] <Disreali> I just found out I miss the 'haiku down under' web conference :(
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[07:25:04] <diegoviola> how do i change the desktop resolution in haiku?
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[07:46:43] <umccullough> diegoviola, screen preferences
[07:46:51] <umccullough> click leaf menu, preferences->screen
[07:47:18] <diegoviola> ty
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[07:54:14] <diegoviola> i've tried haiku
[07:54:19] <diegoviola> i'm impressed
[07:54:26] <diegoviola> is anyone here using it as a primary OS?
[08:03:34] <diegoviola> it feels very nice and well integrated, the system itself, but i can't use it as my primary OS until i can do the following:
[08:05:07] <diegoviola> for laptops and such
[08:05:41] <diegoviola> other than that i don't know...
[08:05:58] <OmniMancer> python is there
[08:06:01] <OmniMancer> vim is too
[08:06:13] <OmniMancer> I think someone go ruby to build
[08:06:28] <OmniMancer> and I believe there is a latex port too
[08:06:42] <diegoviola> i actually don't need firebug
[08:06:45] <diegoviola> i can do without
[08:06:50] <jrabbit> ruby is an opt pkg
[08:07:20] <diegoviola> and vaapi/vdpau i don't need actually, i don't mind using my cpu
[08:07:22] <diegoviola> for movies
[08:09:30] <OmniMancer> that said I don't expect you to use it as your only OS :P
[08:11:38] <diegoviola> :)
[08:13:47] <diegoviola> ty
[08:14:47] <diegoviola> i actually don't need flash at all
[08:14:51] <diegoviola> i hate that flash thing
[08:15:05] <diegoviola> wget and mplayer for flash/youtube videos is fine, or even html5
[08:15:19] <diegoviola> i don't even have flash on linux installed
[08:15:49] <diegoviola> i treat flash as a virus
[08:19:45] <diegoviola> well not like that sorry :D
[08:19:57] <diegoviola> but i don't like it
[08:20:16] <diegoviola> anyways i'm happy to see haiku progressing
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[10:25:57] <Nozy> hey all
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[11:43:41] <CIA-35> Now always retrieve the team icon from the first B_APP_IMAGE image entry_ref.
[11:43:41] <CIA-35> Using team_info.args as before was not safe: when truncated, the
[11:43:41] <CIA-35> entry_ref could be an intermediate folder, which display a folder
[11:43:41] <CIA-35> icon as team's icon!
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[11:50:30] <DosAmp> has anyone had success in enabling sound with the Intel AC97 Driver on an old Intel ICH2 chipset? the sound chip is listed in listdev and under /dev/audio/hmulti/auich, all volume controls are at 100%, MediaPlayer succeeds in playing a WAV file, but there is no audible output
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[11:58:57] <DosAmp> okay, the media server just crashed, there must be something going really wrong
[12:00:46] <farhaven> just a dumb question... are your speakers on and turned up?
[12:01:36] <PulkoMandy> if the default driver doesn't work, you can try removing it and sing OSS instead
[12:03:32] <DosAmp> farhaven: yes they are, the best proof having heard sounds on Windows while burning the Haiku image ;)
[12:03:47] <farhaven> hehe
[12:09:11] <DosAmp> on Alpha 2 I had once the rare occurance of sound shortly working with VLC (OpenAL), but I haven't had the pleasure of it working again in a long time :(
[12:13:46] <phoudoin> DosAmp: sounds like a known issue indeed, and alas not yet resolved
[12:14:21] <phoudoin> Your best chance is to switch to OSS driver (it's an optional package IIRC now)
[12:15:07] <DosAmp> okay, installing OSS right now
[12:16:05] <DosAmp> the comments on OSS confuse me, shall i extract the zip file into /boot or /?
[12:16:44] <DosAmp> ah, there is also a "home" directory under /boot, so I guess the first
[12:19:00] <PulkoMandy> jrabbit: you know wxWidgets has both wxColor and wxColour classes, right ? :)
[12:19:05] <DosAmp> (and that's my home directory ... nevermind, I am just a little dumb Linux user)
[12:19:18] <jrabbit> PulkoMandy: so wrong.
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[12:27:37] <CIA-35> Drop TODO since the commented code doesn't have any effect and nothing else seems to be
[12:27:37] <CIA-35> missing either.
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[13:39:58] <DosAmp> hm ... the OSS drivers have a certain tendency to stutter, but they work most of the time :)
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[13:59:55] <KAZENOMANAZAS> Nya!
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[14:01:37] <Anarchos> hi KAZENOMANAZAS
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[14:03:47] <KAZENOMANAZAS> Hello!
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[14:05:19] <KAZENOMANAZAS> Oh...
[14:06:21] <Anarchos> KAZENOMANAZAS you've got a friend :)
[14:07:06] <KAZENOMANAZAS> I hope so!
[14:07:24] <KAZENOMANAZAS> But friend still silent
[14:08:24] <Anarchos> I have UsePrivateHeaders [ FDirName kernel disk_device_manager ] ; in Jamfile, but no disk_device_manager in the '-I' option while compiling, why ?
[14:08:49] <KAZENOMANAZAS> Dunno
[14:09:08] <KAZENOMANAZAS> I'm only running Haiku OS sometimes on VirtualBox
[14:09:25] <OmniMancer> Anarchos: check how UsePrivateHeaders is defined?
[14:09:30] <KAZENOMANAZAS> Just wanted to taste something new
[14:09:40] <Anarchos> OmniMancer it seems correct ?
[14:11:46] <Anarchos> OmniMancer it is defined in HeadersRules which i didn't modified
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[14:12:04] <OmniMancer> I didn't say you did
[14:12:15] <OmniMancer> just you might not be using the rule as intended...
[14:12:22] <OmniMancer> but I don't know
[14:12:35] <mmadia> can i see the code, Anarchos?
[14:13:06] <mmadia> and i'm not sure what you mean by 'but no disk_device_manager in the '-I' option while compiling'
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[14:16:05] <Anarchos> mmadia gcc -I.... <-- these lines don't content -I/kernel/driver/disk_device_manager
[14:16:19] <Anarchos> mmadia which code do you want to see ?
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[14:17:39] <mmadia> is this for building the buildtools for sparc?
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[14:18:54] <Anarchos> mmadia the buildtools are built, it is for compiling haiku
[14:19:34] <mmadia> as a basic 101 question, is the correct version of jam's installed? :)
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<CIA-35> Haiku: siarzhuk * r42656 /haiku/vendor/freebsd/current/dev/de/ (. dc21040reg.h if_de.c if_devar.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42656 : Going to merge support of DEC 21140 (Tulip) into dec21xxx driver.
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[14:27:12] <Anarchos> mmadia no idea !
[14:27:24] <mmadia> > jam -v
[14:27:25] <mmadia> Jam 2.5-haiku-20090626. OS=HAIKU. Copyright 1993-2002 Christopher Seiwald.
[14:27:39] <Anarchos> yes it is
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[14:29:23] <mmadia> forgive me... coffee hasn't kicked in yet. so, how are you getting to that issue?
[14:29:48] <Anarchos> mmadia i launch jam in src/system/boot/loader
[14:31:05] <mmadia> and the error?
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[14:35:04] <Anarchos> mmadia well it finds it sorry, just the old error about NAME_MAX not found
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[14:45:56] <me-alone> why dont haiku developers post video previews of haiku on youtube..?
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[14:48:33] <mmadia> so, in BeOSBuildCompatibility.h, you may indeed need something like ...
[14:48:42] <Anarchos> mmadia thanks a lot, i will compare with my own modifs
[14:49:05] <mmadia> # if (defined HAIKU_HOST_PLATFORM_SUNOS || defined HAIKU_HOST_PLATFORM_SPARC ))
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[14:49:43] <mmadia> if you want, you could reply to ingo, with that email archive and ask for clarification.
[14:50:04] <Anarchos> mmadia thanks a lot
[14:50:43] <OmniMancer> mmadia defined is a function like operator
[14:51:06] <mmadia> that shows how much i code in c/c++ ;)
[14:51:46] <OmniMancer> also you have a spurious )
[14:51:58] <OmniMancer> but it does get across what you meant :D
[14:52:36] <CIA-35> * FreeBSD compatibility layer for network drivers is modified to handle
[14:52:36] <CIA-35> NULL-terminated list of driver_t* entries instead of single entry.
[14:52:36] <CIA-35> That allows to combine multiple FreeBSD drivers into single Haiku
[14:52:36] <CIA-35> driver add-ons;
[14:52:37] <CIA-35> * Support for DEC 21140 (Tulip) chipsets (provided by the 'de' driver)
[14:52:38] <CIA-35> incorporated into dec21xxx driver. That brings network connectivity to
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[15:07:45] <CIA-35> Followed Ingo's suggestion: use private get_app_ref(). This reduce code duplication.
[15:07:45] <CIA-35> Thanks.
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[15:24:44] <me-alone> hi
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[15:33:02] <me-alone> anybody here who is on haiku right now..??
[15:34:41] <PulkoMandy> sure
[15:35:54] <me-alone> PulkoMandy, what irc client is avilable for haiku , are you running it on actual hardware or VM
[15:38:43] <OmniMancer> Vision is included with haiku
[15:38:46] <OmniMancer> it is an IRC client
[15:39:36] <PulkoMandy> using it on real hardware
[15:39:41] <PulkoMandy> and yes, Vision works fine :)
[15:40:24] <me-alone> i am really excited to use haiku on my spare pc
[15:42:14] <CIA-35> Fixed in ProcessController the same icon issue than in Debugger's running teams window.
[15:42:14] <CIA-35> Also get right of the ugly raster default app icon that was still used and visible in
[15:42:14] <CIA-35> memory & teams/threads submenus.
[15:42:27] <me-alone> its PIII 1ghz with 256 ram , sis 630 , cmedia 8738 sound card ethernet connecton
[15:44:31] <Anarchos> me-alone should run fine
[15:45:29] <me-alone> Anarchos, i wish there was a video installtion guide on youtube
[15:46:37] <PulkoMandy> well, it just needs 3 clicks
[15:46:39] <PulkoMandy> :)
[15:47:27] <me-alone> how stable it is right now..?
[15:48:04] <scgtrp> not-crashing stable or not-being-updated stable?
[15:48:19] <scgtrp> i haven't had many crashes that weren't my fault, but there were a couple
[15:48:55] <me-alone> I loved Beos i will love haiku
[15:48:58] <PulkoMandy> it's good enough for using it as my main OS
[15:49:36] <me-alone> how many of you actully owned a bebox..??
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[15:50:20] <scgtrp> 'twas before my time, unfortunately :(
[15:54:47] <PulkoMandy> same for me
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[16:01:01] <OmniMancer> same for me
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[16:10:22] <CIA-35> Fix gcc 4.5.2 build (unused static function is now an error).
[16:10:22] <CIA-35> No functional change, sorry.
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[16:27:14] <mmadia> any freebsd users around? i'm having trouble fixing a filesystem that won't mount.
[16:28:29] <HeTo> I use FreeBSD on my server
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[16:31:47] <mmadia> basically, /dev/ad12 which is UFS refuses to mount.
[16:32:49] <mmadia> # mount /dev/ad12 /mnt/whimper/
[16:32:50] <mmadia> mount: /dev/ad12 : Operation not permitted
[16:33:19] <mmadia> and that's within `sudo bash`
[16:35:46] <HeTo> dmesg could contain some info
[16:36:32] <HeTo> if it's really due to permissions it could be because the securelevel is raised, or because you're in a jail
[16:37:09] <HeTo> sysctl kern.securelevel should tell the securelevel
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[16:38:14] <HeTo> ah, run fsck as it tells you to
[16:38:18] <rennj> WARNING: R/W mount of /storage denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck
[16:38:23] <rennj> right in the message
[16:38:35] <rennj> enable softupdates next time
[16:38:45] <mmadia> how do i enable softupdates?
[16:38:52] <rennj> tunefs i beleive
[16:38:59] <rennj> /etc/fstab
[16:39:00] <HeTo> fsck first
[16:39:05] <rennj> been a while
[16:39:12] <HeTo> no editing of fstab required
[16:39:15] <rennj> yeah dont do softupdates till you fsck it
[16:39:52] <HeTo> if it's flagged to have softupdates with tunefs then it will always use them, but fsck first before turning them on
[16:40:31] <rennj> man smartos is looking sexy with kvm now
[16:40:45] <rennj> zfs,zones,dtrace and now kvm
[16:41:59] <rennj> haiku works on it
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[16:42:56] <rennj> i actually may dump vmware ...testing the linux kvm out now...
[16:43:46] <rennj> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -enable-kvm -soundhw hda -net user -net nic,model=rtl8139 -hda haiku.iso seems to work fine
[16:44:04] <rennj> i do have to restart media server for sound for some odd reason
[16:44:12] <HeTo> if the file system is in fstab it should have been checked on boot before trying to mount it
[16:44:45] <mmadia> HeTo : indeed, i needed to boot a live fs disk, in order to remove the entry from fstab.
[16:45:02] <rennj> heh
[16:45:17] <HeTo> but the last column will have to have a 1 or 2 for that (2 should be used for file systems other than /)
[16:45:18] <mmadia> atm, `fsck -t ufs /dev/ad12` is running
[16:45:46] <HeTo> mmadia: didn't the check succeed on boot?
[16:45:58] <mmadia> /dev/ad12 /storage ufs rw 3 3 #from /etc/fstab
[16:46:37] <mmadia> nope. it failed, causing / to be mounted RO.
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[16:47:57] <rennj> GPT LABEL error doesnt sound good either
[16:48:50] <HeTo> isn't that a file system on a whole disk?
[16:49:03] <rennj> geom is what mirror raid right
[16:49:09] <rennj> and encrypted disk shit
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[16:52:04] <HeTo> the disk could be broken, but as long as you have backups of that, couldn't you just try answering y
[16:52:14] <rennj> fsck -y for that purpose
[16:52:20] <rennj> could be 1000's of prompts
[16:52:27] <HeTo> well yes if it gets lots of prompts
[16:52:43] <HeTo> running smartctl would be good too if it's available
[16:53:05] <rennj> resilver time
[16:53:08] <HeTo> smartctl -a /dev/ad12 and check if it says it's failing or passed and check if any of the values in the table are below threshold
[16:56:09] <rennj> so you do have softupdates on... man fsck -p option
[16:56:25] <rennj> i used that but can recall what it does
[16:56:41] <mmadia> should i kill fsck -t ufs /dev/ad12 or let it finish?
[16:56:50] <HeTo> fsck -p won't be good now
[16:56:53] <rennj> preen
[16:57:02] <HeTo> fsck -p is what's done automatically during boot
[16:57:06] <rennj> is this a raid drive?
[16:57:19] <mmadia> nope. just a single drive.
[16:57:21] <HeTo> i.e. not check clean file systems or file systems with soft updates enabled
[16:57:55] <mmadia> iirc, one of those WD green drives that have the weird blocks that report to the OS as a different size.
[16:58:02] <rennj> 4k shit
[16:58:50] <rennj> 4k sector drives..more crap to know, gpt labels, uefi...bah
[16:59:30] <HeTo> you can use a regular MBR partition table on 4k drives just fine, as long as they're smaller than 2 TiB
[17:00:01] <HeTo> just DOS fdisk software and other software that aligns the partitions like it does will misalign the partitions
[17:00:02] <rennj> im still on 250GB, 5 years now
[17:00:15] <rennj> it hard living in that space
[17:00:37] <rennj> i been deleting for long time...movies first, then audio
[17:00:48] <rennj> books and computer stuff i never delete
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[17:05:33] <rennj> yeah thats another why are fsck /dev/ad12
[17:05:37] <rennj> yeah thats another why are fsck /dev/ad12a
[17:05:41] <rennj> grrr
[17:06:26] <HeTo> hm the drive seems to think it's alright at least
[17:06:36] <HeTo> yet fsck complains it can't read some blocks
[17:06:46] <rennj> fsck /dev/ad1a
[17:07:06] <mmadia> ad1a?
[17:07:30] <rennj> partion vs slice
[17:07:36] <rennj> /dev/ad12 is partition
[17:07:44] <rennj> but fbsd use slices inside partition
[17:07:53] <HeTo> ad12 is a disk
[17:07:53] <rennj> /dev/ad12a,b,c,d,e is partition
[17:08:15] <rennj> grrr
[17:08:23] <HeTo> ad12s1 would be a slice (PC partition)
[17:08:57] <HeTo> ad12s1a would be a BSD partition inside slice, ad12a would be a BSD partition directly on the disk
[17:09:07] <rennj> you know what i mean HeTo
[17:09:34] <HeTo> well it looks like the file system is directly on a raw disk
[17:09:47] <mmadia> i think it is, HeTo.
[17:09:49] <HeTo> otherwise the fsck wouldn't get started at all would it
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[17:11:52] <rennj> start reading
[17:12:50] <rennj> fbsd doesnt have simple "fdisk -l"
[17:13:13] <rennj> i got fbsd 5.4 vm but thats really before geom
[17:14:04] <mmadia> yeah, 8.2-RELEASE here.
[17:16:46] <mmadia> no, /dev/ad12 is a secondary disk. /dev/ad10 is my primary disk with ad10s1a as '/' and ad10s1d as /Build-O-Matic
[17:18:54] <rennj> so wouldnt you fsck /dev/ad12s1c or something like that
[17:19:37] <mmadia> no, iirc i created the filesystem directly on /dev/ad12. i forget the documentation that suggested that for the 4KB drive.
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[17:22:17] <rennj> says large drives use gpart
[17:22:27] <rennj> bsdlabel heh
[17:22:31] <rennj> been while
[17:23:14] <rennj> gpart recover
[17:23:24] <rennj> Recover corrupt partition's scheme metadata on the geom geom.
[17:23:25] <rennj> See the section entitled RECOVERING below for the additional
[17:23:25] <rennj> information.
[17:23:49] <rennj> gpart show
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[17:37:44] <rennj> gpart show -l ad12 ? show the layout?
[17:37:58] <rennj> geom, gpart look into those man pages for sure
[17:38:07] <mmadia> sorry, i stepped away, while letting fsck -y run.
[17:38:36] <rennj> cause bsdlabel doesnt do large drives i guess...i was just trying to figure the layout of drive
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[18:08:14] <CIA-35> * add a new generic video electronics define,
[18:08:14] <CIA-35> this seems like it could be useful for more then
[18:08:14] <CIA-35> just radeon_hd.
[18:08:14] <CIA-35> * idea from linux drm driver
[18:08:14] <CIA-35> * feedback / flames welcome
[18:08:15] <CIA-35> * can move into radeon_hd private defines if requested
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[18:31:45] <CIA-35> * Applied patch by hamish to fix layouting the clock.
[18:31:45] <CIA-35> * This closes #7937, thanks!
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[18:56:23] <me-alone> what is haiku
[19:01:04] <me-alone> does it use linux kernel
[19:01:08] <phoudoin> nope
[19:01:29] <phoudoin> it has his own kernel, a fork from NewOS kernel
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[19:03:41]
<CIA-35> Haiku: siarzhuk * r42664 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/dec21xxx/dev/ (dc/glue.c de/glue.c) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42664 : No functional changes. Code style violations fixes. Thanks to Axel for pointing out.
[19:06:10] <me-alone> phoudoin, i think ddevs are trying to build BeOS from scratch
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[19:08:33] <phoudoin> me-alone: I know
[19:08:37] <mmadia> btw, thanks rennj + HeTo. the machine's back online.
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[19:08:57] <rennj> what did you do to solve?
[19:09:02] <rennj> fsck -y was all
[19:09:04] <rennj> ?
[19:09:23] <mmadia> yeah, that had to be run twice and then gpart recover /dev/ad12
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[19:09:24] <phoudoin> mmadia: oh, so the window during which one could break everything without being noticed is closing!?
[19:09:44] <mmadia> yup :P
[19:09:48] <rennj> nice
[19:10:08] <phoudoin> okay, then I won't do another commit today :-)
[19:10:11] <mmadia> ... and cue the sound of thunder. :|
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[19:17:04] <Cian> mmadia APC time ;)
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[19:24:39] <CIA-35> * add protected accessor for baseline offset to StringItem, as that value is of
[19:24:39] <CIA-35> interest to derived classes
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<CIA-35> Haiku: zooey * r42667 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/locale/ (LanguageListView.cpp LanguageListView.h LocaleWindow.cpp) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42667 : (log message trimmed)
[19:31:55] <CIA-35> Fix drawing artefacts in Locale prefs (and IMHO improve the look):
[19:31:55] <CIA-35> * separate LanguageListItemWithFlag from LanguageListItem
[19:31:55] <CIA-35> * draw the flag in front of the text instead of at wherever the right bounds happen to
[19:31:55] <CIA-35> be, fixing the drawing artefacts when scrolling
[19:31:55] <CIA-35> * size the flag to match the size of the list item, which looks much better when
[19:31:56] <CIA-35> using a largish default font
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[19:38:22] <CIA-35> * add video_electronics.c
[19:38:22] <CIA-35> (.c to keep compatibility with older C accelerants)
[19:38:22] <CIA-35> * use functions for decoding video_electronics
[19:38:22] <CIA-35> * thanks for the guidance Axel!
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[20:49:53] <Chat9242> :D
[20:50:47] <Chat9242> hi
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[20:51:49] <ployea> :o)
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[21:05:07] <yourpalal> does Haiku Inc. have a dreamhost affiliate account? I'm thinking of signing up for hosting with them.
[21:05:49] <mmadia> .. affiliate account?
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[21:06:31] <yourpalal> Each referal gives the affiliate (eg Haiku Inc) $97
[21:06:39] <mmadia> * umccullough ?
[21:07:20] <yourpalal> I figure if I'm going to sign up with them anyway, I might as well take the opportunity to send some cash to my favourite FLOSS OS :)
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[21:11:10] <yourpalal> awesome :)
[21:11:26] <mmadia> lemme look at the account some more first.
[21:12:25] <yourpalal> ok, I won't be doing it right away, but I wanted to check now in in case Haiku Inc hadn't signed up yet or something.
[21:15:45] <mmadia> ok.. that should be it on Haiku, Inc.'s side.
[21:17:09] <yourpalal> awesome :)
[21:17:56] <mmadia> thanks :)
[21:19:29] <yourpalal> No problem :) It's a way for me to donate despite my cash-strappedness.
[21:21:24] <mmadia> `svn commit` is a good way to donate too :P
[21:22:53] <yourpalal> haha I know :P Hopefully I'll have some time to get back to work on Haiku soon
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[21:23:43] <yourpalal> My Haiku time for now is all going towards GSoC
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[23:17:52] <CIA-35> * remove tracing on AtomBIOS parser
[23:17:52] <CIA-35> * fix a few compile issues when tracing is disabled
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[23:29:06] <CIA-35> * add gConnector for card connector storage
[23:29:06] <CIA-35> * add detect_connectors to detect card connectors
[23:29:06] <CIA-35> * add infinitely compex detect_connectors_manual
[23:29:06] <CIA-35> (used when detect_connectors fails)
[23:29:06] <CIA-35> * add missing AtomBIOS header
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[23:56:48] <jrabbit> the Libyian civil war may be over...
[23:57:54] <helf2> or close to it :)
[23:58:09] <helf2> they havent yet gotten to tripoli (as of an hour ago when i last saw a blurb..)
[23:58:12] <helf2> have they taken it yet?
[23:58:29] <jrabbit> helf2: Gaddafi's sons have saurrendered.
[23:58:36] <helf2> nice
[23:58:44] <jrabbit> conflicting reports on if gaddafi is dead
[23:59:03] <jrabbit> He just issued an audio message. (it didn't exactly confirm anything)
[23:59:46] <jrabbit> helf2: They took over the city from the inside in a coordinated assult, the rebel army is at green square by now :P