August 18, 2011 
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August 18, 2011 [00:04:20] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[00:04:25] *** _be has joined #haiku[00:07:27] <_be> Well, at least to us utc+1-people: Happy 10th birthday, Haiku![00:07:33] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:09:03] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:13:37] *** vooshy has quit IRC[00:14:12] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:37:14] *** brianb has joined #haiku[00:40:03] *** brianb_ has quit IRC[00:41:15] *** aksr has quit IRC[00:42:13] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:45:45] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[00:52:39] *** Suner has joined #haiku[00:53:04] *** oco has quit IRC[00:54:47] *** lukove has quit IRC[00:55:13] *** luko_ has quit IRC[01:00:32] *** fhein has quit IRC[01:04:18] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:04:47] *** _be has quit IRC[01:05:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[01:09:52] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:20:59] <judgen-work> Bk from work[01:21:03] *** judgen-work is now known as judgen[01:21:17] *** hdanak has quit IRC[01:22:20] <judgen> anyone awake?[01:26:07] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:26:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:30:28] *** hdanak_m has joined #haiku[01:31:43] *** hdanak_ has joined #haiku[01:32:32] *** hdanak_m has quit IRC[01:32:34] *** hdanak_ has quit IRC[01:33:23] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:33:42] *** hdanak_m has joined #haiku[01:33:51] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:35:06] *** hdanak_m has quit IRC[01:38:36] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[01:42:11] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[01:59:22] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:01:32] *** duvjones has quit IRC[02:08:58] *** brianb_ has joined #haiku[02:09:18] *** judgen has joined #haiku[02:10:07] <judgen> After a crash my desktop has some files and folders that i have previously removed. and they can not be deleted through tracker or Terminal.. how can this be?[02:11:25] *** hdanak_m has joined #haiku[02:11:25] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:11:56] *** brianb has quit IRC[02:12:08] *** Suner has quit IRC[02:13:15] *** judgen has joined #haiku[02:15:11] <Disreali> judgen; did you try rebooting? ime, rebooting tends to fix many issues[02:15:36] *** hdanak_m has quit IRC[02:23:27] *** Suner has joined #haiku[02:24:15] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[02:24:25] *** Cenbe has joined #haiku[02:27:16] <judgen> Disreali This is the third reboot...[02:27:23] <judgen> files still there.[02:27:36] <mmadia> checkfs /boot ?[02:27:44] <judgen> also some of my earlier downloaded files is no longer present i just realized[02:27:50] <judgen> ok ill try that[02:28:20] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:29:50] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:29:51] *** judgen-2 has joined #haiku[02:29:57] <judgen-2> that sure crashed the comp[02:30:03] <judgen-2> ill try again[02:31:59] *** judgen has joined #haiku[02:31:59] *** judgen-2 has quit IRC[02:34:07] *** judgen2 has joined #haiku[02:34:07] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:34:14] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:34:18] <judgen2> ok that is a definite no go.[02:34:28] <judgen2> crashes the system again[02:39:34] <AlienSoldier> can you delete from terminal with posix command[02:43:43] *** judgen2 has quit IRC[02:47:42] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[02:54:59] *** judgen has joined #haiku[02:55:21] <judgen> nope nothing i do seem to work[02:55:36] <judgen> everything regarding to the boot partition makes me KDL[02:56:34] <judgen> but i think it is just writes.[02:56:43] <judgen> maybe i am wrong[02:57:59] *** judgen is now known as judgen-Zzz[03:05:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:14:14] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[03:15:21] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[03:26:23] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[03:37:14] *** judgen-Zzz has quit IRC[03:43:49] *** sikosis_ has joined #haiku[03:43:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sikosis_[03:44:03] *** sikosis_ has quit IRC[03:48:51] *** brianb__ has joined #haiku[03:50:19] *** brianb_ has quit IRC[03:52:07] *** xissburg has joined #haiku[03:57:00] *** brianb has joined #haiku[03:59:51] *** brianb__ has quit IRC[04:02:13] *** Qeos has quit IRC[04:02:54] *** Qeos has joined #haiku[04:09:23] *** hdanak_m has joined #haiku[04:11:46] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[04:11:47] *** HaikuUser is now known as Scollins2[04:18:47] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[04:46:20] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[04:48:47] *** xissburg has quit IRC[04:55:40] *** xissburg has joined #haiku[04:58:02] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[04:58:53] *** xissburg has quit IRC[05:09:05] *** _be has joined #haiku[05:11:29] *** f1assistance has left #haiku[05:15:53] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[05:17:40] *** hdanak_m has quit IRC[05:19:35] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[05:25:43] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:27:45] *** phalax has quit IRC[05:29:34] *** _be has quit IRC[05:31:25] *** ablyss has left #haiku[05:38:51] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:43:32] <Sikosis> Having lunch for Haiku's 10th Birthday -> http://t.co/56GQIr1[05:44:38] <Scollins2> very kewl ![05:46:57] <helf2> haiku is 10 already? :o[05:47:01] <helf2> my how time flies[05:47:27] *** cinch- has quit IRC[05:52:27] *** cinch has joined #haiku[05:52:35] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[05:52:52] *** mbrumbelow has joined #haiku[05:54:22] <Sikosis> indeed[05:54:55] *** Suner has quit IRC[05:55:29] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:06:16] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:08:00] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[06:08:19] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[06:08:36] <Scollins2> Happy Birthday Haiku, its 12:00am here now[06:08:48] *** scgtrp has joined #haiku[06:11:31] *** hdanak_m has joined #haiku[06:21:54] <Sikosis> ah good stuff[06:35:39] *** NeonLicht has quit IRC[06:36:07] *** NeonLicht has joined #haiku[06:40:08] *** CIA-73 has quit IRC[06:40:38] *** CIA-35 has joined #haiku[06:43:12] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[07:00:37] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:06:08] <rennj> openbeos![07:08:02] <Scollins2> walter ![07:09:51] <rennj> walter mitty[07:10:16] <Scollins2> cya'll later![07:10:22] *** Scollins2 has quit IRC[07:11:01] *** jackotheshadows has joined #haiku[07:11:35] *** gwenael has quit IRC[07:25:06] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[07:52:42] *** Shisui has joined #haiku[07:59:33] *** aksr has joined #haiku[08:01:24] *** _be has joined #haiku[08:01:41] *** hdanak_m has quit IRC[08:13:35] *** Tukeke has joined #haiku[08:15:59] *** Corn_man is now known as Corn|sleep[08:25:33] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:30:01] *** _be has quit IRC[08:34:30] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[08:44:33] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:57:41] *** _marc` has quit IRC[09:03:04] *** adominguez has joined #haiku[09:04:35] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[09:12:20] *** _be has joined #haiku[09:14:40] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:23:05] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[09:31:20] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:42:08] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[09:42:47] *** kieselsteini has joined #haiku[09:53:43] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[10:00:51] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[10:01:08] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:01:30] *** Tukeke has quit IRC[10:01:43] *** DrHouse|TARDIS has quit IRC[10:18:16] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[10:34:12] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[10:36:20] *** Cobi has quit IRC[10:39:37] *** Cobi has joined #haiku[10:41:30] *** hdanak has quit IRC[10:43:39] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[10:43:46] *** HaikuUser is now known as Androo[10:48:45] *** Androo has quit IRC[10:56:55] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[10:58:06] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[11:01:15] *** J-Ho has quit IRC[11:01:37] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[11:10:30] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:11:57] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[11:21:11] *** lukove has joined #haiku[11:21:17] *** luko_ has joined #haiku[11:21:33] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[11:48:47] <luko_> hi[11:50:55] *** brianb_ has joined #haiku[11:53:34] *** brianb has quit IRC[12:06:17] *** mbrumbelow has quit IRC[12:08:46] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[12:26:13] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[12:53:24] *** luko_ has quit IRC[12:53:27] *** lukove has quit IRC[13:26:32] *** judgen has joined #haiku[13:28:43] *** prOSy has quit IRC[13:36:08] *** orealis has quit IRC[13:36:55] *** orealis has joined #haiku[13:39:09] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[13:42:45] <judgen> is it possible to compile the sound and net drivers from haiku to BeOS? Not that i really need it, but it is just fun to play with on my other partition.[13:45:58] *** adamk has joined #haiku[13:45:58] *** adamk has joined #haiku[13:47:30] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[13:50:14] *** Nozy has left #haiku[14:01:32] *** judgen has quit IRC[14:03:36] *** lukove has joined #haiku[14:06:26] *** deejam has joined #haiku[14:14:07] *** lukove has quit IRC[14:14:40] *** helf2 has quit IRC[14:23:50] *** Noz has quit IRC[14:27:16] *** Shisui has quit IRC[14:27:32] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[14:39:19] *** Shisui has joined #haiku[14:48:10] *** aksr has quit IRC[14:51:31] *** deejam has quit IRC[14:52:41] *** fhein has quit IRC[15:06:18] *** brrant has joined #haiku[15:09:52] *** luko has joined #haiku[15:12:18] *** adominguez has quit IRC[15:23:10] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[15:23:18] *** marc_smith has joined #haiku[15:24:00] <marc_smith> when can we expect full WPA2 support to happen?[15:29:33] *** luko has quit IRC[15:30:55] *** luko has joined #haiku[15:31:45] <jrabbit> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Main_Page oh cool.[15:32:39] *** Corn|sleep is now known as Corn_man[15:34:10] <marc_smith> why buying overpriced iPod when you can buy something that is equal with free software onboard?[15:34:58] *** LordLobo has joined #haiku[15:35:04] *** LordLobo has left #haiku[15:35:05] <Teknomancer> that runs Windows?[15:35:14] <Teknomancer> oh free software[15:35:35] <Teknomancer> i had an iRiver before, lovely device, it ran Rockbox[15:36:20] <marc_smith> yeah, iRiver is cool[15:36:30] <marc_smith> Sansa is pretty cool too[15:36:39] <marc_smith> from Sandisk[15:38:43] <jrabbit> well the oh cool was mostly that the newer ipod classic has been broken :)[15:39:48] <surrounder> I use my android phone for portable audio nowadays, sounds great[15:40:19] <jrabbit> mine isn't big enoguh for my msuic but theres some insanely expensive microsd cards that come close[15:40:47] <surrounder> ah well, I don't have to travel that much[15:40:58] <surrounder> bought a 16 GB microsd card, more then big enough[15:41:26] <jrabbit> I'm pretty happy with my 120 gb ipod classic[15:41:39] <surrounder> that's quite huge indeed :)[15:42:00] <marc_smith> d'oh ... Android is nice, but it had some serious security problems recently[15:42:02] <surrounder> as long as you don't use the standard earbuds from apple, they're all horrible[15:42:04] <jrabbit> yeah its about half full[15:42:15] <jrabbit> surrounder: I've had to use those for a while[15:42:19] <surrounder> jrabbit: ouch :P[15:42:23] <jrabbit> my good headphones broke.. twice[15:42:35] <surrounder> yeah this is like my 8th pair of sennheisers[15:42:43] <surrounder> love the sound though[15:42:51] <surrounder> marc_smith: like ?[15:42:53] <marc_smith> aaah, sehnheissers are good, but you have to plug them into the good HW[15:42:58] <jrabbit> they were super cheap sennheisers[15:43:10] <surrounder> I use the cx-300II[15:43:10] <jrabbit> lasted like 2 years though so a good $25 headset :)[15:43:12] <marc_smith> surrounder: I'm talking mostly Apps from external sources here[15:43:13] <surrounder> not that expensive[15:43:15] <surrounder> marc_smith: ah[15:43:15] <marc_smith> not the OS itself[15:43:41] <surrounder> combo of the phone and the sennheisers is the best portable sound I've had so far[15:43:41] <jrabbit> my sony around the ear ear buds broke about the same time :([15:43:45] <marc_smith> surrounder: malicious apps writers ...[15:43:51] <jrabbit> audio jacks just aren't well designed.[15:44:00] <surrounder> marc_smith: yeah, hard to stop that[15:44:19] <surrounder> jrabbit: agreed[15:44:25] <marc_smith> default Android policy is not that bad, although quite permissive I guess[15:44:40] <jrabbit> Android is pretty safe if you don't install malware[15:44:46] <marc_smith> exactly[15:44:47] <surrounder> it's a nice platform[15:44:51] <marc_smith> agreed[15:45:04] <marc_smith> better than IOS in many cases[15:45:09] <jrabbit> I'm hoping a free software community emerges though[15:45:16] *** oco has joined #haiku[15:45:18] <surrounder> don't have much experience with IOS so I wouldn't know[15:45:19] <marc_smith> however, there is QNX OS too, and it's pretty darn good[15:45:23] <jrabbit> not much of the userspace is FOSS[15:45:37] <marc_smith> QNX is used on some models of smartphones[15:45:57] <jrabbit> surrounder: the sad thign is iOS gets in your way less once its rooted >_>[15:46:00] <surrounder> RIM will use qnx I think ?[15:46:09] <marc_smith> yeah, RIM[15:46:23] <marc_smith> too bad QNX isn't opensourced[15:46:28] <marc_smith> that would make it a real deal[15:46:28] <jrabbit> like on android you don't have a "real" libc and you don't have a "real" jre[15:46:47] * jrabbit hasn't successfully built anything for android[15:46:52] <Teknomancer> :)[15:47:00] <Teknomancer> <3 qnx rtp 6[15:47:08] <jrabbit> a ports colelctino for android would be awesome[15:47:10] <surrounder> think I once had qnx on a floppy[15:47:19] <marc_smith> I've just imagined Haiku on a handheld. What a vision, eh?[15:47:20] <jrabbit> but github's new API might make my need for git go away[15:47:31] <jrabbit> marc_smith: vision is an irc app[15:47:37] <marc_smith> heheh[15:47:49] <marc_smith> BTW pkgsrc for QNX doesn't seem to work that good[15:47:53] <marc_smith> have you tried it?[15:49:16] <jrabbit> QNX?[15:49:17] <jrabbit> nope[15:49:51] <marc_smith> pkgsrc on QNX[15:50:38] <jrabbit> I've never even used QNX :)[15:50:50] *** luko has quit IRC[15:51:48] <marc_smith> ah, ok[15:52:08] <marc_smith> really tight OS[15:53:35] <jrabbit> "Source code allegedly available for personal use only[15:53:41] <jrabbit> lol allegedly[15:54:25] <Teknomancer> i loved the QNX RTP 6 desktop demo[15:58:22] *** Shisui has quit IRC[15:59:02] *** hoelzro has joined #haiku[15:59:08] *** adamk has left #haiku[16:01:26] <marc_smith> well, you can acquire hobbyist licence - lifetime[16:01:39] <marc_smith> I seem to have one, but I am not running QNX recently[16:02:00] <marc_smith> It allows personal, non-commercial use[16:02:31] *** brianb has joined #haiku[16:03:42] <jrabbit> heh w/e :)[16:04:48] <marc_smith> true. I'm more into Haiku/BeOS now ;)[16:05:23] *** brianb_ has quit IRC[16:07:44] *** mbrumbelow has joined #haiku[16:12:59] *** deesharpe has joined #haiku[16:17:48] *** lukove has joined #haiku[16:18:31] <lukove> its safe to mount Ext4 Filesystem (Haiku see it as Ext2) under Haiku as Read-only?[16:22:29] <deesharpe> Hello all[16:23:14] <_be> mounting read-only should always be safe[16:24:08] <lukove> _be: thanks for your anser[16:24:40] <lukove> i mounting NTFS, or other not native only as readonly[16:25:00] <lukove> in linux i can mount beos partition too[16:25:43] <_be> yep - quite a bit of interoperability, meanwhile[16:30:37] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:38:12] * Teknomancer wonders what happened to SkyOS[16:38:22] <marc_smith> lukove: and how exactly do you mount BFS partitions?[16:38:30] *** dobroerlanger has quit IRC[16:38:34] <marc_smith> in linux[16:38:49] <lukove> mount -t befs /dev/sda7 /mnt/BeMount[16:38:56] <Teknomancer> last update.. Fri, 2006-01-13 08:29... oh...kay.[16:39:01] <lukove> in root acoount "su -"[16:39:13] <lukove> i have instaled slackware (salix linux)[16:39:14] <marc_smith> thx[16:39:24] <marc_smith> [salix is cool][16:39:33] <lukove> :) yes it is[16:39:36] <surrounder> slackware is cool![16:39:36] <lukove> the best of[16:39:41] <marc_smith> ep[16:39:42] <marc_smith> yep[16:39:56] <lukove> my screenshot http://www.abclinuxu.cz/desktopy/skywaker-20110818[16:40:15] <surrounder> http://surrounder.nl/~surrounder/slackdwm.png[16:40:19] <surrounder> I like minimalism[16:40:57] *** Barrett has quit IRC[16:40:59] <lukove> surrounder: very nice[16:41:23] <surrounder> just a default dwm config[16:41:23] <lukove> but you use DWM and you like Haiku gui? diferent thinks[16:41:44] <surrounder> they are indeed[16:42:02] <surrounder> I like windows 7 too btw[16:42:28] <surrounder> I don't care too much about looks :)[16:42:59] <surrounder> lukove: it's dwm btw, not DWM[16:43:06] <surrounder> yes, they are different things :)[16:43:18] <marc_smith> lukove: very nice indeed! I also use XFCE[16:43:22] <lukove> i have buy 2 graphics cards NVIDIA GT210 and Radeon 5450. (ok i buy only one Radeon but i have from one friend nvidia) and i still waiting for driver for RadeonHD. i think what i see that radeon will have driver first .. Now i am on onboard Intel GMA 4500 and i have widescreen[16:44:28] <marc_smith> I'd bet on Radeon[16:44:36] <marc_smith> it always never failed on me[16:45:02] <marc_smith> NVidia is kinda tricky. Besides it uses blob[16:45:19] <lukove> radeon is good and is better than intel but for now, when i want widescreen i must use intel[16:45:35] <lukove> in linux is not problem with both card[16:46:15] <lukove> more linux users dont like radeon and ATi (amd) cards[16:46:19] <marc_smith> yeah but the code seems to be disastrous sometimes[16:46:48] <marc_smith> then you get higher bug ratio and weird screen flicking[16:47:37] <lukove> at haikuware is very nice aplication for haiku[16:47:41] <marc_smith> I actually use *BSDs, Linux, Haiku and ATI is always supported[16:47:57] <lukove> youtube player and downloader and is function http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/multimedia/video/miscellaneous/yavtd[16:48:18] <lukove> in freebsd what i know is problem to use ati card[16:48:32] <lukove> but i dont use freebsd long time. becouse is server os[16:48:40] <surrounder> hmmbsd[16:48:43] <surrounder> <3[16:49:24] <marc_smith> naah, it is not a server OS. Take a look at PC-BSD[16:49:28] <marc_smith> it is based on FreeBSD[16:49:41] <marc_smith> version 9 is very promising[16:49:56] <marc_smith> I use OpenBSD on a desktop on a regular basis[16:49:58] <marc_smith> it works ok[16:49:58] <lukove> for pcbsd is good to have NVIDIA card and use bianry blob[16:50:14] <lukove> openBSD is very diferent to freebsd[16:50:18] <marc_smith> lukove: my Radeons work ok with pcbsd[16:50:25] <lukove> for openbsd is good to have intel or radeon card[16:50:29] <deesharpe> kde4 still needs more integration work on bsd...it's very noticable on pcbsd[16:50:49] <marc_smith> wel, in upcoming 9 version of pcbsd you can actually choose your desktop of choice[16:50:52] <marc_smith> very neat thing[16:50:54] <deesharpe> my older laptop's radeon xpress 200m hates bsd[16:51:30] <deesharpe> btw, are there any core developers present?[16:51:38] <surrounder> deesharpe: yeah, too bad linux is always the lovechild of the DE people[16:51:58] <marc_smith> look what happened to XFCE support for *BSDs[16:52:04] <marc_smith> it is decreasing[16:52:11] <surrounder> indeed[16:52:19] <lukove> XFCE is the best[16:52:33] <marc_smith> and they are admitting that they don't plan to support BSDs[16:52:34] <marc_smith> what a shame[16:52:39] <deesharpe> yeh, well, there've always been options for the bsd guys to persue to make things better, but they just don't do it....i was once very big into bsd, but now i'm more like 'mehhh'[16:53:07] <deesharpe> who's the core expert on haiku's driver model?[16:53:25] <marc_smith> well, BSD devs and port maintainers are porting most of that stuff, but it is kinda problematic when your app is tied onto Linux[16:53:32] <surrounder> deesharpe: imaginable - have to say I don't care about desktops at all anymore like I used to[16:53:36] <lukove> i have work,, i must go away from pc.. bye haikuusers :)[16:53:41] <surrounder> later lukove[16:53:45] <lukove> :)[16:53:51] <marc_smith> bye lukove[16:53:53] *** lukove has quit 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has quit IRC[18:59:01] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[19:00:10] <humdinger> Happy 10th birthday Haiku![19:00:25] <humdinger> Anyone up to writing a small blurb for the website?[19:01:31] <humdinger> It's so hot here, I don't think I have it in me to find something motivational...[19:03:38] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[19:07:00] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:10:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[19:16:40] *** brrant_ has joined #haiku[19:16:46] *** brrant_ has quit IRC[19:18:36] *** brrant has quit IRC[19:22:34] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[19:23:03] <mmu_man> gee, 10 already ?[19:23:16] <Anarchos> mmu_man 10 what ?[19:23:33] <mmu_man> 18:53 < humdinger> Happy 10th birthday Haiku![19:23:42] <humdinger> back to you![19:24:10] <Anarchos> mmu_man yes i remember those old times with michael philipps[19:27:11] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[19:33:17] <oco> hi[19:34:06] <humdinger> hi oco[19:34:29] <oco> does anybody know what is the right field under Haiku that correspond to ifr_ifru (ifreq struct) ?[19:35:32] <oco> ifr_route ?[19:40:14] <oco> or ifr_addr ?[19:45:13] *** phalax has joined #haiku[19:47:03] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[19:49:14] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[19:49:46] <oco> i am trying to compile this : memcpy(hard_addr,ifr.ifr_ifru.ifru_addr.sa_data,8);[19:52:44] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[19:58:08] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[20:03:04] *** kieselsteini has quit IRC[20:05:43] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[20:06:57] <PulkoMandy> "hard_addr" sounds like the MAC address ?[20:09:13] <oco> PulkoMandy : yes, probably given the name of the function in which is this function : osl_getHWAddr[20:09:35] <oco> function -> this code[20:11:06] *** brrant has joined #haiku[20:28:17] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:31:35] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[20:33:29] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[20:39:36] *** scgtrp has quit IRC[20:47:30] *** duvjones has quit IRC[20:51:16] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[20:58:57] *** VNA9216_ has joined #haiku[20:59:26] *** oco has quit 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