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[00:06:26] <augiedoggie> I think there are one or two youtube videos covering the basics
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[00:06:44] <Duggan> there's a tutorial out there somewhere, I just can't be arsed to look for it right now...
[00:06:50] <Duggan> besides... no youtube on haiku :/
[00:06:55] <Duggan> you'd think they'd know that by now...
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[00:07:19] <augiedoggie> it might be on vimeo too, which allows downloads
[00:07:30] <Duggan> as in: what's the point of putting a haiku tutorial on youtube when people using haiku can't view it :/
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[00:07:59] <Duggan> unless it's a "how to install it" kind of video for those that can't get that far
[00:11:09] <Duggan> nothing on vimeo that i can see
[00:11:28] <augiedoggie> it was a guess, I know I've seen other Haiku videos there
[00:12:21] <Duggan> 9 total, but mostly introductory in nature
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[00:15:46] <augiedoggie> yeah, https://www.haiku-os.org/about/movies only lists two sites that have it
[00:15:54] <mmadia> http://svn.haiku-os.org/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/applications/icon-o-matic.html
[00:16:10] <augiedoggie> but says blip.tv offers downloads
[00:20:16] <Duggan> thanks guys
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[00:22:31] <Duggan> I should look into making icons for PIT I guess...
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[01:45:20] <AlienSoldier> anyone can tell me if downloadhelper 4.8 still work with youtube on their side?
[01:45:33] <AlienSoldier> in haiku or R5
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[01:49:47] <cb88> talking about in FF?
[01:49:56] <cb88> I haven't treid that yet but nothing else is working
[01:50:56] <AlienSoldier> yes
[01:51:20] <AlienSoldier> mine is no longer working, was wondering if google changed api again
[01:51:25] <AlienSoldier> if so i'm sooooo screw
[01:51:58] <AlienSoldier> i reinstalled firefox and re downloaded the 4.8 version (last one for firefox 2)
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[01:52:43] <AlienSoldier> i sure would take an updated tube positive
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[01:54:25] <AlienSoldier> all the web based one are using java now
[01:57:26] <cb88> yeah thats quite annoying :/
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[04:50:43] <ddavid123> Man, the last 2 or three nightly builds have been very buggy!
[04:51:12] <ddavid123> wsod's everywhere
[04:51:25] <ddavid123> White Screen Of Death
[04:51:27] <Binky1SMC> I can't even get it to build and I don't know why.
[04:51:59] <ddavid123> every time i try to install webpositive, it does that
[04:52:27] <ddavid123> just "installoptionalpackage -l" chrashes it
[04:52:39] <ddavid123> page faults
[04:53:02] <ddavid123> I tried to Shift + Print Screen but it did not work
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[04:53:46] <ddavid123> Sometimes it crashes durring boot
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[11:15:55] <Teknomancer> morning
[11:18:59] <Duggan> hey Teknomancer
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[11:27:04] <Teknomancer> hi Duggan
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[12:13:32] <lukove> hi folks.. how usable is radeonhd driver in current nightly builds?
[12:15:00] <jrabbit> there aren't nightly builds right now :)
[12:16:07] <jrabbit> lukove: I think most of the work is in a branch if I recall
[12:16:15] <jrabbit> kallisti5: ^ :)
[12:16:18] <Teknomancer> i hope we get support for raden HD 6770 soon :)
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[12:16:31] <Teknomancer> *radeon
[12:23:03] <lukove> ia have new low end MSI Radeon HD 5450
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[13:08:10] <Duggan> jrabbit no nightly builds?
[13:08:33] <Duggan> http://www.haiku-files.org/haiku/development/
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[13:09:18] <jrabbit> nvm
[13:09:22] <jrabbit> I guess they restarted
[13:09:36] <jrabbit> my bad :P
[13:09:49] <jrabbit> lukove: ^^
[13:10:10] <jrabbit> they *might* be in there but I think the work is being done on a branch
[13:11:33] <jrabbit> lukove: http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42592/
[13:11:38] <jrabbit> nvm its all in trunk
[13:12:18] <Duggan> hehe was about to post http://dev.haiku-os.org/browser/haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon_hd
[13:12:19] <Duggan> :)
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[13:21:36] <ohhi> hello there, got question: is there a way of using a 3g device ?
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[13:40:11] <saivert> ohhi: Only if it provides a wifi tether
[13:42:10] <mmu_man> 13:37 !
[13:42:43] <OmniMancer> 23:38
[13:43:51] <ohhi> wifi ? what has wifi to do with that ?
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[13:45:25] <OmniMancer> ohhi: he means only if the 3g device is something like a smartphone and allows tethering over wifi network
[13:46:12] <OmniMancer> since I don't think we have PPP yet you couldn't use one over bluetooth or usb-serial I believe
[13:46:29] <ohhi> oh okey
[13:46:45] <ohhi> thats what i wantet to know
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[14:50:00] <Teknomancer> does haiku have gpg?
[14:56:50] <OmniMancer> don't really see why it wouldn't compile?
[15:00:12] <Teknomancer> yeah i know, just wondering if it ships/has a package etc.
[15:00:40] <Teknomancer> nvm, there is one for BeOS
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[16:08:09] <judgen> g'day mates.
[16:14:40] <Teknomancer> hallo judgen
[16:15:03] <judgen> Teknomancer: all well?
[16:15:23] <Teknomancer> yes, just a bit of the cold :/
[16:15:47] <judgen> brb restart of the irc client.
[16:16:13] <judgen> seems there was no need for it.
[16:16:30] <judgen> im trying to change the highligt colour in kvirc...
[16:17:08] <Teknomancer> hmm that shouldn't need a restart :)
[16:17:10] <Teknomancer> hopefully
[16:18:52] <judgen> please write my nick to see if i got it right this time.
[16:19:09] <Teknomancer> judgen !
[16:19:12] <judgen> yay
[16:19:18] <Teknomancer> good
[16:19:20] <judgen> black on red instead of black on black
[16:19:35] <judgen> Very odd default
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[16:20:11] <Teknomancer> black on black would be kind of hard to read
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[16:23:01] <judgen> yeah it was indeed troublesome.
[16:23:16] <judgen> I had to use the cursor to mark the line to read it..
[16:24:14] <Teknomancer> haha sweet
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[16:36:52] * Teknomancer is waiting for news on his new laptop
[16:37:03] <Teknomancer> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c02790401&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[16:37:14] <Teknomancer> tested the Haiku live CD in the store :)
[16:37:16] <Teknomancer> it actually booted!
[16:38:21] <Teknomancer> extra 50 euros 2 GB RAM, and god knows how much for US keyboard...
[16:38:24] <Teknomancer> sigh
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[17:18:03] <AlienSoldier> i got some info on my yesterday youtube problem, google changed the API again like i feared:
[17:18:05] <AlienSoldier> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/easy-youtube-video-downl-10137/
[17:18:33] <AlienSoldier> i contacted the authors of that add-on to see if they tested FF2.0
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[17:18:57] <AlienSoldier> i will keep you posted if i get an answer
[17:19:52] <AlienSoldier> i don't think the downloadhelper add-on will get updated as they don't support 2.x anymore
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[17:33:41] <CIA-73> Haiku: scottmc * r42599 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalLibPackages http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42599  : Added missing gcc2 build of jgmod. This fixes trac ticket #7888.
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[18:18:07] <CIA-73> Haiku: bga * r42600 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/vesa/mode.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42600  :
[18:18:07] <CIA-73> Add initial vesa modes even if EDID information is present. EDID does not
[18:18:07] <CIA-73> include all supported video modes. Fixes #4166.
[18:18:07] <CIA-73> Note that this change will probably show several weird resolution is some
[18:18:07] <CIA-73> configurations. They are all valid resolutions but are not commom so we need
[18:18:08] <CIA-73> a way to filter those out.
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[19:17:06] <BGA> GeneralMaximus: Are you there?
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[19:19:43] <eml> kallisti5: I came here to tell you to get rid of that damn text-shadow on your blog
[19:19:51] <lukove> will be posible when we have radeon driver use output to 2 monitors?
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[19:28:49] <CenbeVM> a3 works nicely in a kvm on my ThinkPad T410 :)
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[19:38:50] <Teknomancer> l8rz
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[19:44:54] <kallisti5> eml: eh.  i like it
[19:45:10] <eml> kallisti5: It makes the text unreadable, at least give us the option to turn it off =(
[19:45:21] <kallisti5> eml: it cuts down on the headache of contrasting colors when i've been coding all night
[19:45:30] <kallisti5> nice vasoline blur
[19:45:50] <eml> it gives me a headache :(
[19:46:00] <kallisti5> yeah.. but i look at the site more :P
[19:46:02] <eml> but it's your choice =)
[19:46:06] <kallisti5> i'll cut it down a little
[19:46:22] <kallisti5> it was alot more for what it's worth.. i can barely see it now
[19:46:32] * kallisti5 smacks his monitor
[19:46:50] <kallisti5> great gatsby's ghost!
[19:46:59] <kallisti5> where did that shadow come from!
[19:47:03] <eml> :D
[19:48:00] <eml> <a href="javascript:$(body).css('text-shadow', 'none')">Turn the shadows off</a>
[19:48:24] <eml> kallisti5: Digging the work though, keep it up =)
[19:49:55] <kallisti5> <a href="javascript:$(body).css('text-shadow', 'none')">I'm a newbie and don't like css3 :(</a>
[19:50:00] <kallisti5> :P
[19:50:13] <eml> :DD
[19:51:02] <eml> I don't know maybe I should get reading glasses or something, but the lines are floating together when I read that text with shadow on
[19:51:09] <DraX> $(document.body) assuming you have jquery laoded in context :P
[19:51:31] <eml> I meant $('body') of course
[19:51:49] <eml> seems like $(body) works too though
[19:52:08] <eml> not.
[19:52:10] <DraX> body is unbound in at least a normal page
[19:52:14] <eml> yeah
[19:52:20] <eml> I got a <div id="body"> back :p
[19:54:07] <DraX> i'd also wonder if $('body') would work if the page didn't have a body. Generally browser DOM parsers will insert a body though...
[19:54:16] <DraX> indeed the html5 spec requires they insert a body node
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[20:15:29] <SCollins2> l8tr
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[20:30:08] <lukove> nuxos.sk
[20:30:22] <lukove> hi
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[20:40:53] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42601 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon_hd/radeon_hd.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42601  :
[20:40:53] <CIA-73> * clean up tracing and exit gracefully to vesa if
[20:40:53] <CIA-73> we can't locate an AtomBIOS for the card.
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[21:51:34] <helf2> ugh, its 32c out and the index is 40c
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[22:00:16] <DaaT> helf2: don't envy you
[22:00:25] <DaaT> send some of that my way, we'll share it
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[22:02:39] <binky1SMC> whats that in F ?
[22:02:53] <helf2> 90-104
[22:02:57] <helf2> respectively
[22:03:04] <PulkoMandy> we need a converter bot in here :p
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[22:03:44] <DaaT> we need everyone to use the metric system!
[22:03:51] <helf2> :p
[22:04:01] * helf2 likes bstandard
[22:04:21] <PulkoMandy> mh... remembers me this still isn't part of the Locale kit ...
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[22:05:29] <helf2> bbl
[22:05:54] <binky1SMC> its about that here today, 88F with a HI of 94
[22:06:11] <binky1SMC> heat index is 97*
[22:06:28] <helf2> weve had indexes of 110 :(
[22:06:47] <binky1SMC> about 2 weeks ago the heat index was close to that for about 5 days straight
[22:06:51] <helf2> at least its not texas. my poor sisterr has had to deal with 110 /real temp/
[22:06:58] <binky1SMC> 107 average temp of 99
[22:07:55] <farhaven> hmm, being used to temperatures displayed and calculated in celsius can be bad :D
[22:08:04] <farhaven> i always think "man, 110 degrees... their blood must be literally boiling right now"
[22:08:06] <helf2> lol
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[22:12:04] <Skipp_OSX> Fairenheit makes sense to me. When it is cold, it is close to 0, when it is hot, it is close to 100. Celcius goes between -30 and 50. To me, that is strange.
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[22:14:43] <PulkoMandy> 0 is ice and 100 is boiling water
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[22:16:02] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy: 0 is the freezing point of salt water (kinda) 100 is human body temperature (sorta)
[22:16:25] <PulkoMandy> yes
[22:16:45] <PulkoMandy> ell, when seeing something below 0 we know to watch out for ice, snow, and this stuff
[22:17:13] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy: true, and -40 is -40 either way :)
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[22:18:25] <PulkoMandy> also, converting to Kelvins is really easy
[22:18:30] <PulkoMandy> but it's of little use :)
[22:18:33] <Skipp_OSX> actually I think it is better to know that it is below 0F because you know that the salt trucks won't work either
[22:18:39] <binky1SMC> 32* F is waters freezing point, human body is 98.6* boiling water is 212 at a nominal athomsphere of 11bar or 100kpa
[22:18:42] <binky1SMC> 1bar
[22:20:22] <Skipp_OSX> binky1SMC: but what is the boiling point of water at 34.2 inches of Mg?
[22:20:31] <Skipp_OSX> ... of atmospheric pressure
[22:20:48] <Skipp_OSX> and Hg not Mg
[22:20:48] <binky1SMC> ekk, I don't use mercuryc, what is that in bar of kpa ?
[22:21:02] <Skipp_OSX> binky1SMC: I am just messing with you
[22:21:19] <binky1SMC> well boiling point of water changes with pressure
[22:21:25] <Skipp_OSX> binky1SMC: I don't know, you seem to know all the facts, I figured you'd know
[22:21:37] <binky1SMC> lol, 34.2 inchs of vaccum ?
[22:21:41] <binky1SMC> or pressure ?
[22:22:15] <Skipp_OSX> binky1SMC: inches of Hg is a measurement of pressure.
[22:22:22] <binky1SMC> at 2 bar waters boiling point moves up to 240F
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[22:22:45] <binky1SMC> at 30inch of Vaccum -2 bar it drops to around 78degrees depending on the humidity
[22:23:23] <PulkoMandy> (rather annoying for cooking noodles)
[22:24:00] <binky1SMC> cold boiling water, yeah it'd be tough to cook noodles at -2 bar or -200kpa
[22:24:27] <binky1SMC> again this varys on wether you want to use absolute or relative measurements to
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[22:26:17] <luroh> heh, casually browsing bloomberg.com, i read: "socks stink" (well duh, but wtf?)
[22:26:26] <luroh> the header actually reads "stocks sink"
[22:26:39] <luroh> </random>
[22:26:43] <stpere> going to try Haiku on my new laptop :P
[22:26:51] <binky1SMC> lol, socks do tend to stink on a hot day
[22:27:11] <stpere> I don't expect much :P
[22:27:23] * jrabbit can't upload his png screencap to imgur >_>
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[22:27:53] <DaaT> stpere: what are the specs?
[22:28:42] <stpere> Core i7 2.7, 6 GB DDR3, USB 3, 500 GB SATA, the issue is why the GPU or rather the GPUs
[22:28:49] <stpere> Intel + Nvidia
[22:28:52] <DaaT> ah, nvidia optimus?
[22:28:55] <stpere> yeah
[22:28:55] <DaaT> *nod*
[22:29:08] <stpere> s/why/with/
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[22:31:37] <DaaT> good luck and anyway, good opportunity to open some tickets in tracker for the non-supported hardware :)
[22:31:46] <stpere> lol yeah :)
[22:32:02] <AcerAspire> Hello. Is wpa encryption progressing? The last time I checked, there was this thing called wpa_supplicant, which did not work for me.
[22:32:06] <stpere> I have some ACPI calls working here in linux to turn off the nvidia card
[22:32:25] <DaaT> stpere: submit a patch then? :)
[22:32:34] <DaaT> AcerAspire: no updates atm
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[22:32:37] <stpere> I just might.. I just might
[22:32:43] <DaaT> :)
[22:34:22] <luroh> AcerAspire: not sure but it wouldn't come as a complete surprise to me if mmlr would make a frontal assault on the issue in a few weeks/months
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[22:36:46] <vooshy> AcerAspire: you only asked the other day
[22:37:23] <DaaT> vooshy: he's anxious
[22:37:27] <DaaT> we all are :P
[22:38:24] <vooshy> hmm but even a sheep couldnt work that fast on the problem
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[22:40:46] <PulkoMandy> http://worms2d.info/images/6/63/Supersheepicon.png ?
[22:40:55] <DaaT> a sheep would just make it happen, magic!
[22:40:56] <DaaT> :)
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[22:43:46] <Anarchos> I get that : ./../../../../headers/os/kernel/OS.h:721:21: error: 'NAME_MAX' was not declared in this scope
[22:43:56] <Anarchos> while compiling the kernel
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[23:15:14] <CIA-73> Haiku: axeld * r42602 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/InputServer.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42602  :
[23:15:14] <CIA-73> * Fixed style violation (tab before '{' that J?\195?\131?\194?\169r?\195?\131?\194?\180me already mentioned), and
[23:15:14] <CIA-73> merged the two ifs.
[23:15:14] <CIA-73> * Automatic white space cleanup.
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[23:23:10] <zgaga> anyone tried KOffice in Haiku?
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