August 6, 2011 
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August 6, 2011 [00:00:01] <DraX> none of these things actually mean anything, they're just empty gibberish[00:00:45] <DraX> ``is haiku known to be an OS riddled with security flaws?''[00:00:47] <DraX> is that what you're asking[00:00:49] <DraX> ?[00:01:04] <DraX> if so, the answr is no. It may actually be, or it may not be, but it's not currently known to be[00:01:34] <DraX> do you think there is some particular design decision made by win9x vs BSD oses that makes them more secure? If so, what is that?[00:02:53] <AcerAspire> I am not a programmer. I just know that early MS OSes had a lot of silly devcisions, like Internet Explorer woult run all software presented to it without a question.[00:03:18] <DraX> that sounds like my first response than[00:03:26] <DraX> to which the answer is ``probably not.''[00:03:46] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:04:46] <AcerAspire> I just wonder whether Haiku is safe from hackers and viruses. Do the developers pay any attention to security when they make Haiku?[00:05:12] <AcerAspire> or is my laptop running Haiku an easy target?[00:06:03] <vooshy> if your running any operating system before its first release you will find security issues and bugs[00:06:13] <AcerAspire> of course[00:06:32] <AcerAspire> But I wonder if Haiku would be built for safety or not.[00:06:55] <Duggan> eventually, yes... but right now it's mostly "security through obscurity"[00:07:06] <AcerAspire> ok[00:07:41] <AcerAspire> Any idea when Haiku will require a login before starting?[00:07:55] <Duggan> post-R1[00:08:06] <AcerAspire> ok[00:09:39] <Duggan> sometime by R2 the multiuser stuff should be in place, but Haiku will still be single user for R1 (I'm pretty sure, if I'm wrong somebody correct me)[00:10:13] * vooshy agrees with Duggan's statement[00:12:50] *** iMe has joined #haiku[00:14:04] *** Disreali has quit IRC[00:17:50] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[00:18:24] <AcerAspire> What is the latest wpa news? I know there's a wpa_supplicant available, but I could not get it to work.[00:21:16] *** aksr_ has quit IRC[00:22:42] <vooshy> it is being worked on in a branch in the haiku repository - but not working as yet[00:25:18] <Anarchos> Duggan no you're right for the multiuser stuff[00:28:24] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42582 /haiku/trunk/ (11 files in 3 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42582 : (log message trimmed)[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * lots of changes[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * add missing header for some radeon registers[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * begin removing now un-needed direct register calls[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * move and refactor crtc functions[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * fix function naming to be clearer[00:28:25] <CIA-73> * create more AtomBIOS style calls[00:28:49] <Duggan> gotcha, thanks guys ( vooshy, Anarchos)[00:30:18] <Duggan> AcerAspire I don't know, I hear it's working but I've also heard alot of complaints about it... I don't use it myself so I don't know first hand[00:32:44] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:34:31] <AcerAspire> se you later, must go now[00:34:42] *** AcerAspire has quit IRC[00:36:21] <mmu_man> http://testyourvocab.com/[00:36:27] <mmu_man> what's your score ? ;)[00:37:23] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[00:37:51] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:38:08] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:38:24] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:38:33] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[00:40:20] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:42:27] <vooshy> mmu_man: 21,900[00:43:07] <mmu_man> 11,200 for me[00:43:08] <Duggan> wow just another way to make me feel like an idiot :P[00:43:18] <mmu_man> are you english-native?[00:43:20] <Duggan> ok maybe I shouldn't have said that...[00:43:26] <Duggan> hehe[00:43:45] <mmu_man> non-native are usually <10k they say[00:44:03] <Duggan> I am, are you?[00:45:00] <mmu_man> no[00:45:07] <Duggan> ah, well good job then :)[00:45:33] <mmu_man> vooshy: are you?[00:45:34] <Duggan> I must have always been surrounded by stupid people all my life, because they always tell me how smart I am...[00:46:13] <Duggan> if I'm so smart why do I only have 22,100 words in my vocabulary :/ .... which is below average for my age :/[00:46:39] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[00:47:12] <Duggan> no offense vooshy :P[00:47:34] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[00:47:54] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[00:48:26] <vooshy> lol none taken - i dont read any fiction / books[00:48:46] <vooshy> oh and im british native mmu_man[00:50:03] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[00:50:10] <mmu_man> even better ;)[00:51:28] <mmu_man> <AustinPowers>Listen Dad, if we're to talk about naughty things in front of these american girls, then at least speak *english* english!</AustinPowers>[00:51:52] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[00:52:22] <vooshy> lol[00:52:58] *** f1assistance has joined #haiku[00:53:22] *** f1assistance has left #haiku[00:53:37] *** DaaT has quit IRC[00:56:34] <Duggan> hehe[00:57:34] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:04:39] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[01:06:39] <jrabbit> http://webintents.org/ <3[01:08:49] <mmu_man> is this related to android intents ? ( http://www.openintents.org/en/ )[01:09:04] <mmu_man> seems so[01:09:30] <mmu_man> not too far away from verbs in BeOS (which only ever had B_OPEN defined :p) and the way we use MIME[01:12:06] <jrabbit> mmu_man: yes[01:12:13] <jrabbit> haha[01:12:37] <jrabbit> https://dev.twitter.com/docs/intents[01:12:46] <jrabbit> also http://blog.chromium.org/2011/08/connecting-web-apps-with-web-intents.html[01:13:00] <mmu_man> interesting[01:19:37] *** judgen has quit IRC[01:23:10] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:23:45] <mmu_man> oh, https://www.desktopsummit.org/[01:23:59] <mmu_man> ^^ anyone going there to remind them they aren't alone ? :p[01:27:02] <vooshy> umm doesnt that start today ?[01:31:56] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[01:41:36] *** isak_ has joined #haiku[01:41:48] *** isak_ is now known as PapiCode[01:45:49] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:02:59] *** vooshy has quit IRC[02:04:58] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[02:16:48] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[02:17:27] *** DocPheniX has quit IRC[02:17:32] *** DocPheniX has joined #haiku[02:24:21] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[02:26:50] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:29:33] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[02:36:17] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:36:40] <jrabbit> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/06/us-usa-debt-downgrade-idUSTRE7746VF20110806[02:39:30] <helf2> its our own damn fault[02:39:36] <helf2> but a downgrade is better than a default[02:39:44] * helf2 grumbles about our idiot politicians[02:40:01] <jrabbit> The intrest rates might not change[02:40:22] <helf2> AA+ isnt that bad, really[02:40:49] <mmu_man> lol, it's not as if France was any better though :D[02:41:08] <helf2> :p[02:41:27] <helf2> its a miracle we kept our AAA rating as long as we did :p[02:41:31] <mmu_man> sarkozy just didn't make his economical coming out[02:42:01] <mmu_man> maybe the build tools need an update ?[02:42:24] * jrabbit has a morbid curiousity to see london open[02:42:31] *** dak has quit IRC[02:44:04] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[02:44:41] <mmu_man> EBADWIN[02:45:38] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[02:45:55] <helf2> the dji plummeted heh[02:46:08] <HaikuUser> EBALDWIN ? ;-)[02:46:16] <jrabbit> helf2: huh? its clsoed[02:49:14] <helf2> no, it plummeted today[02:49:16] <helf2> earlier[02:49:17] <helf2> while open[02:49:21] <helf2> like 400pts[03:16:06] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:22:26] *** PapiCode has quit IRC[03:22:29] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[03:26:06] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[03:26:07] *** HaikuUser2 is now known as BinkySMC2[03:42:49] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:44:41] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[03:48:41] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[03:51:08] *** LiquidInsect has quit IRC[03:52:33] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:57:20] *** helf2 has quit IRC[04:20:32] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:38:26] *** Disreali has quit IRC[04:49:29] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[04:50:28] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[04:50:51] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[04:58:13] *** helf2 has joined #haiku[04:58:23] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[05:20:15] *** TN-048 has joined #haiku[05:33:54] *** atishay has joined #haiku[05:34:05] <atishay> hi guys[05:34:13] <atishay> I'm new to Haiku[05:34:52] <TN-048> Heyy[05:35:08] <atishay> I want to implement a sleep mode in Haiku. I havn't started yet and just want to ask if it is feasible in Haiku[05:35:30] <atishay> Or I should go with any other OS[05:36:45] <TN-048> Well I love Haiku and use it as much as possible[05:37:05] <TN-048> Idrk about sleep, I think they intend to implement it for R1[05:37:59] <atishay> Actually in the long run I want to implement a dream mode sort of thing, such that whenever the system is suspended, still the network node remains active so that the system network doesn't get messed up[05:39:00] <TN-048> If you're not putting the whole system to sleep then would it be any more than turning the screen off and bputting the disks to sleep?[05:40:18] <atishay> It will be like running the system in minimum power so as it remains active on the network[05:40:39] <atishay> its just a thought, I dont know whether its feasible[05:41:23] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[05:41:59] <atishay> Can anybody suggest if Haiku would be an appropriate choice for it or I should look for any other OS[05:42:22] <TN-048> Linux would be your best choice at the moment[05:42:55] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:43:49] <atishay> Which experimental OS based on linux do u suggest[05:44:13] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[05:44:19] <TN-048> Probabaly debian or any of its derivitives[05:48:29] <atishay> but that would be very large[05:48:41] <atishay> can you suggest me a small OS[05:48:48] <TN-048> Damn small linux[05:48:52] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[05:48:54] <TN-048> Tiny core linux[05:49:31] <TN-048> Your device support would be limited though[05:50:47] <atishay> So would I will be able to implement what I intend to do[05:51:34] <TN-048> Maybe. You might have to build chipset drivers and such yourself.[05:52:32] <atishay> And abt haiku[05:53:30] <TN-048> pretty much the same. There's not been too much work done on power management in Haiku yet, that will come later[05:56:55] <atishay> what are the chances of suceeding[05:57:09] <atishay> becoz I cant afford a failure[05:57:29] <TN-048> Depends on your determination and coding skills[05:58:25] <atishay> one last thing[05:58:31] <BinkySMC2> Check the haiku dev mailing list for a thread about sleep/resume/savestate etc[05:58:42] <atishay> what will be the level of difficulty on a scale of 0-5[05:59:25] <BinkySMC2> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/session-manager,24[05:59:34] <TN-048> Probabally 4 because you're dealing with hardware control[06:03:06] <atishay> any OS where it might be easier to implement[06:03:32] <BinkySMC2> its a feature of almost every OS that has the proper driver support to make it happen[06:03:50] <BinkySMC2> windows,linux,psx[06:06:17] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[06:06:21] <atishay> can you narrow linux a bit[06:06:34] <TN-048> Any well supported one[06:06:38] <atishay> which derivative might work[06:06:44] <TN-048> Debian Ubuntu Fedora[06:07:03] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[06:07:53] <atishay> k ill investigate more[06:07:56] <atishay> thanx a lot guys[06:08:09] <TN-048> No problem[06:08:29] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[06:10:30] *** Nozy has left #haiku[06:18:02] *** TN-048 has quit IRC[06:31:42] <Duggan> hey guys, BinkySMC2, Skipp_OSX, etc[06:36:05] <BinkySMC2> hi[06:39:37] *** atishay has quit IRC[06:43:18] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42583 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/atombios/ (atom.cpp atom.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42583 :[06:43:18] <CIA-73> * style cleanup[06:43:18] <CIA-73> * add some missing functions from drm version[06:46:37] <Skipp_OSX> hi Duggan[06:51:11] <Duggan> what are you working on these days, Skipp_OSX?[06:51:56] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[06:52:30] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: I am working on the Haiku Book[06:52:56] <DDevine> Skipp_OSX: Haiku Book?[06:53:16] <BinkySMC2> ahh the Haiku Book, I await the Haiku book 1[06:58:54] <Skipp_OSX> DDevine: The successor to the Be Book, the Haiku API Documentation[07:00:39] <Duggan> DDevine he's working on his own Haiku Book (since nobody's working on the "official" one)[07:00:54] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX it going good?[07:01:16] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[07:01:23] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: pretty well, I reformatted things a bit.[07:02:53] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[07:04:26] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: what do you think of the new frontpage? http://74.74.222.96/[07:05:32] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX looking good :)[07:06:21] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan: thanks, it still needs a lot of work on the inside pages though[07:07:11] <Duggan> gotch[07:07:13] <Duggan> a[07:16:34] <DDevine> Duggan: Yeah that's what I was wondering.[07:17:46] *** helf2 has quit IRC[07:18:24] *** helf2 has joined #haiku[07:18:25] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:18:38] *** jstressman has quit IRC[07:19:34] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[07:19:53] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:19:53] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[07:23:28] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:23:34] <Duggan> DDevine I figured it would be :)[07:23:45] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[07:27:26] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[07:27:26] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:27:56] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[07:28:58] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:32:22] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[07:33:24] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[07:33:46] *** Nozy has left #haiku[07:41:33] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[07:43:20] *** DDevine has left #haiku[07:44:41] *** amidrew_ has joined #haiku[07:44:59] *** amidrew has quit IRC[07:46:03] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:47:08] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:50:50] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:53:36] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:55:06] <CIA-73> Haiku: humdinger * r42584 /haiku/trunk/data/catalogs/apps/aboutsystem/de.catkeys http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42584 : Removed accidentally inserted white spaces. Thanks taos.[08:02:56] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:06:57] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[08:12:09] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[08:15:29] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[08:17:49] *** MatthewH12` has quit IRC[08:19:19] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[08:32:44] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[08:33:02] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[08:34:06] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:34:26] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[08:40:12] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[08:46:30] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[08:46:47] <Begasus> moin[08:59:55] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[09:00:09] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:02:12] *** BinkySMC2 has quit IRC[09:04:21] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42585 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/ (4 files in 2 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42585 :[09:04:21] <CIA-73> * more style cleanup[09:04:21] <CIA-73> * backport additional bugfixes from drm version[09:04:21] <CIA-73> * add logic to detect infinite execution loops[09:04:21] <CIA-73> * add a semephore to prevent multiple executions on[09:04:22] <CIA-73> non-thread safe code ( this needs testing )[09:06:05] *** hdanak has quit IRC[09:11:04] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[09:31:32] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:38:35] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[09:42:46] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[09:43:46] *** iMe has quit IRC[09:45:00] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:46:34] <Begasus> morning PulkoMandy ;)[09:55:01] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[10:00:54] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[10:04:38] <PulkoMandy> :)[10:16:20] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:17:14] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[10:20:18] *** phalax has joined #haiku[10:24:53] *** helf2 has quit IRC[10:25:13] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[10:42:01] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[10:44:11] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[10:54:42] *** aksr has joined #haiku[10:56:50] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[10:58:41] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[11:01:00] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[11:09:27] <CIA-73> Haiku: pulkomandy * r42586 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/notification/ (4 files) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42586 :[11:09:27] <CIA-73> Some tweakings to the notificationsystem to make it look more like a regular alert.[11:09:27] <CIA-73> Feel free to improve on it.[11:21:46] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[11:32:34] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[11:35:18] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[11:53:42] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[11:56:12] *** vooshy has quit IRC[11:57:27] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[11:57:28] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[11:58:10] *** fhein has quit IRC[12:01:26] *** judgen has joined #haiku[12:05:40] *** PapiCode has joined #haiku[12:07:24] *** mbrumbelow has joined #haiku[12:16:04] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[12:18:51] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[12:20:29] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[12:21:04] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[12:31:29] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[12:31:56] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[12:37:13] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[12:45:18] <CIA-73> Haiku: pulkomandy * r42587 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/notification/ (NotificationWindow.cpp NotificationWindow.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42587 : Ensure the window is at the right position before showing it. Fixes #7011.[12:50:09] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[13:08:53] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[13:10:11] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[13:15:11] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[13:23:20] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[13:24:41] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[13:33:51] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[13:35:06] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[13:36:08] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[13:36:28] *** PapiCode has quit IRC[13:37:57] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[13:39:23] *** vooshy has quit IRC[13:40:11] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[13:42:48] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[13:44:08] *** mbrumbelow has quit IRC[13:45:26] *** mbrumbelow has joined #haiku[13:52:08] *** _marc` has quit IRC[13:52:39] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[14:00:22] *** judgen has quit IRC[14:03:50] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[14:11:16] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[14:23:48] *** PapiCode has joined #haiku[14:29:02] *** PapiCode has quit IRC[14:35:06] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[14:41:35] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[14:44:12] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[14:44:16] <johnny_b> hello[14:44:27] *** PapiCode has joined #haiku[14:53:26] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[15:28:19] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[15:28:24] *** PapiCode has quit IRC[15:29:37] <vooshy> DaaT: hello[15:38:58] *** eriaranth000 has joined #haiku[15:42:02] <DaaT> hey vooshy[15:48:04] <vooshy> DaaT: how are you?[15:50:07] <DaaT> good good, enjoying the weekend[15:50:09] <DaaT> how about you?[15:51:02] <vooshy> not too bad thanks :)[15:54:07] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[15:59:25] <DaaT> bbl[16:00:03] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[16:00:17] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[16:14:20] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[16:17:13] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[16:18:26] <HaikuUser> hello[16:18:42] *** Disreali has quit IRC[16:20:27] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[16:21:09] *** Disreali has quit IRC[16:25:27] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[16:30:40] *** eightbitz has joined #haiku[16:32:17] <eightbitz> Got a question - is it possible to mount the old image.be file in haiku?[16:33:16] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:33:18] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:33:27] <eightbitz> or for that matter create an empty bfs image and mount it? I've tried without success[16:33:27] <mmu_man> eightbitz: yes, it's a plain BFS image[16:34:29] <eightbitz> i think I'm having problems with giving it a mount point. Could you give me an example please?[16:34:44] <OmniMancer> where are you trying to mount it?[16:35:02] <PulkoMandy> you should be able to just double click on it in tracker to mount it, IIRC[16:35:56] <eightbitz> back in the day I used to make my own file and mount it to a directory[16:36:17] <eightbitz> following guides off of betips[16:37:34] <eightbitz> say if I created an image like this : dd if=/dev/zero of=image.img bs=1024k count=500[16:40:10] <eightbitz> and then used : makebfs image.img - to create the file system[16:41:16] <eightbitz> at this point I could create a directory on the desktop[16:42:08] <eightbitz> and mount it by :mount image.img ~/Desktop/nameofdirectory?[16:42:14] <PulkoMandy> should work[16:42:20] <eightbitz> is that right?[16:42:35] <PulkoMandy> well, usually we create dirs in / and mount there[16:42:38] <OmniMancer> what does it say/do when you do that?[16:42:43] <PulkoMandy> (tracker takes care of showing them on the desktop)[16:42:52] <PulkoMandy> but mounting elsewhere should work too[16:45:28] <OmniMancer> again, what error does it give when you try to mount it and how are you trying to mount it?[16:46:51] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[16:46:56] *** eightbitz has quit IRC[16:48:09] *** AmineKhaldi has quit IRC[16:48:48] *** AmineKhaldi has joined #haiku[16:50:42] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[16:53:43] *** MAX2 has quit IRC[16:55:38] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:07:37] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[17:11:56] <Anarchos> hi pfoetchen[17:12:33] <PulkoMandy> mh... Caya seems all broken :/[17:13:36] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy what is caya ?[17:16:08] <vooshy> Anarchos: http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/caya[17:16:16] <helf> hi[17:22:56] <Anarchos> hi helf[17:23:13] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy i just discovered GNU Electric VLSI design system :)[17:27:32] <OmniMancer> hehe[17:28:11] <Anarchos> OmniMancer what makes you smile[17:28:34] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[17:29:03] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[17:29:14] <OmniMancer> I found that recently too[17:30:31] <ddavid123> just out of curiosity, what time is it where you are?[17:30:57] <Anarchos> ddavid123 17:30[17:31:06] <johnny_b> 5:27PM[17:31:16] <Anarchos> OmniMancer seems cool but i never learnt to do vlsi design[17:31:31] * Anarchos is idle: watching the end of "2012"[17:31:31] <ddavid123> It is 10:27 am here in Texas U.S.[17:32:33] <OmniMancer> I haven't learnt to do any such design yet :P[17:37:33] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[17:37:56] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[17:41:08] * Anarchos has returned[17:41:25] <Anarchos> OmniMancer i wonder if it is possible to create a MMIX processor for running haiku :)[17:41:54] *** vooshy has quit IRC[17:42:03] <OmniMancer> MMIX being the virtual achitechture thing?[17:42:12] <OmniMancer> I don't think it would be worth it[17:42:53] <Anarchos> OmniMancer MMIX is the processor design by Knuth[17:43:19] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[17:46:29] <OmniMancer> yea[17:49:12] <Anarchos> OmniMancer could be totally geek to have a MMIX processor running Haiku :)[17:50:19] <PulkoMandy> there are dozens of processors to use already :)[17:51:08] <OmniMancer> yes[17:51:15] <OmniMancer> make it run on arm[17:51:24] <OmniMancer> that would have more purpose[17:52:10] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[17:57:23] <PulkoMandy> mh... someone with some knowledge on migrating media code for BeOS R3 to newer versions ?[18:10:19] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:21:24] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:25:48] *** Begasus has quit IRC[18:32:09] *** f1assistance has joined #haiku[18:34:32] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[18:38:50] *** lukove has joined #haiku[18:40:02] *** f1assistance has left #haiku[18:43:55] *** aksr_ has joined #haiku[18:46:09] *** Duggan has quit IRC[18:47:23] *** aksr has quit IRC[18:57:20] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[18:57:42] *** luroh has joined #haiku[18:58:16] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[19:01:03] *** HaikuUser is now known as phoudoin[19:01:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[19:09:25] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:11:49] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[19:14:56] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[19:15:18] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[19:15:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[19:15:50] <phoudoin> I guess you receive none of my replis, right, kallisti5?[19:22:21] *** jjido has joined #haiku[19:24:45] *** PasNox has quit IRC[19:26:12] <DaaT> hey phoudoin, how's it going?[19:26:29] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:26:49] <phoudoin> DaaT: fine[19:27:33] <Anarchos> phoudoin i began the sparc port :)[19:27:56] <phoudoin> I'm trying to catchup haiku development, but while upgrading to a self-build image, I just forgot to update the buildtools (gcc 4.5.3), leading to an Haiku in which I can build haiku...[19:28:08] <phoudoin> Anarchos: uh?[19:28:13] <phoudoin> really?[19:28:29] <DaaT> hope you don't have to rebuild the whole thing[19:29:55] *** MAX2 has joined #haiku[19:29:56] <mmu_man> plop[19:30:07] * DaaT plops mmu_man[19:30:31] <phoudoin> DaaT: I will have to: new compiler, so clean build[19:30:36] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[19:30:43] <DaaT> bummer[19:31:16] <phoudoin> no problem, that the price to leave a bit haiku dev[19:31:17] <DaaT> have something in mind? To sink your teeth on, haiku wise[19:31:40] <phoudoin> testing radeon_hd and GSoC last UVC patch[19:31:54] <phoudoin> plus fix some bugs I'm the assignee for[19:32:12] <phoudoin> nothing particular[19:32:19] <mmu_man> ah need to test this[19:32:28] <mmu_man> but I'm busy with CCC stuff[19:33:01] <DaaT> been following kallisti5's _very_ anxiously :)[19:33:07] <DaaT> can't wait to test it[19:33:50] <phoudoin> DaaT: same here[19:33:56] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[19:34:02] <DaaT> :)[19:34:04] <phoudoin> I'm trying to give him little help[19:34:28] <DaaT> great[19:34:48] *** jjido has quit IRC[19:35:24] <phoudoin> he had a question few minutes ago about how to port code calling Linux's pci_iomap()[19:35:35] <phoudoin> but since, he disapear,[19:36:01] <phoudoin> disappear[19:36:25] <phoudoin> anyway, time to rebuild a clean haiku with an up-to-date gcc4.5.3[19:36:28] <phoudoin> cu later[19:37:05] <DaaT> later[19:37:11] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[19:37:50] *** dru_ has quit IRC[20:00:30] *** AmineKhaldi has quit IRC[20:05:39] *** tqh has quit IRC[20:08:07] *** AmineKhaldi has joined #haiku[20:08:18] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:24:30] *** fhein has joined #haiku[20:31:54] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[20:32:23] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[20:41:21] *** aksr_ has quit IRC[20:41:41] *** aksr has joined #haiku[20:51:24] *** Stellar has joined #haiku[20:56:31] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[20:57:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[21:02:09] *** eriaranth000 has quit IRC[21:03:22] *** fhein has quit IRC[21:08:30] *** jjido has joined #haiku[21:14:42] *** eriaranth000 has joined #haiku[21:24:02] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:24:51] *** prOSy has quit IRC[21:24:51] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[21:26:30] <ddavid123> I have made a Haiku User Guide PDF file. You can see my forum entry were the download link is at http://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/haiku_user_guide_pdf[21:30:57] *** MAX2 has quit IRC[21:31:05] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[21:31:36] *** aksr has quit IRC[21:32:14] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[21:36:35] <mmu_man> ddavid123: how much automation do you use ? is it manually adjusted or just processed by a tool ?[21:37:30] <mmu_man> I don't recall if we have a print media CSS yet though[21:37:34] <mmu_man> we should probably work on that[21:38:52] <mmu_man> CSS3 has many nice things for print media (but even Firefox doesn't implement them all[21:41:43] *** jjido has joined #haiku[21:42:09] <ddavid123> mmu_man What are you talking about?[21:43:10] <ddavid123> You mean the Haiku User Guide?[21:43:24] <ddavid123> I used pdf-shuffler in Linux[21:44:24] <ddavid123> I printed each page as a .pdf file in Firefox 4 and then used pdf-shuffler to combine all 18 pdf files into one.[21:48:19] <mmu_man> can't Fx print them all at once ??[21:48:39] <ddavid123> If it can, I don't know how.[21:48:58] <mmu_man> oh ok right, each html file[21:49:14] <ddavid123> It will only print the currently viewed page as far as I know.[21:49:27] <mmu_man> well, it should be easy to process them to generate a merged file[21:49:46] <ddavid123> I did not save as html, I printed the page as pdf[21:49:50] <DaaT> ddavid123: impressive work, congrats[21:49:53] <PulkoMandy> http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/games/strategy/critical-mass-2[21:49:57] <PulkoMandy> have fun everyone ![21:49:59] *** zgaga has joined #haiku[21:50:12] <ddavid123> Thanks DaaT[21:50:24] <mmu_man> ddavid123: yeah, just it'd make things simpler to have a single html file to print :p[21:50:28] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[21:50:38] <ddavid123> I agree![21:51:13] <ddavid123> Cant wait for WebPositive to print to printer and pdf file[21:51:26] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[21:51:42] <ddavid123> no print options[21:51:55] <zgaga> menus in KWord don't work. Anyone else with same experience?[21:52:25] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[21:53:54] <mmu_man> ddavid123: you can send a patch :p[21:54:52] <ddavid123> I am not a programmer, but I wish I was![21:55:02] *** jjido has quit IRC[21:55:21] <augiedoggie> never too late to learn[21:55:32] <ddavid123> The only language I can grasp at the moment is ruby.[21:55:49] <ddavid123> and that ain't saying much[21:56:08] <ddavid123> too bad it isn't compiled.[21:56:22] *** zgaga has left #haiku[21:56:51] <ddavid123> C++ gives me a headache with all those ;[21:57:02] <ddavid123> lol[21:57:47] <ddavid123> I do have a copy of "Teach yourself C++ in 21 days", I may give it a go.[21:58:36] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[21:59:46] *** phalax has quit IRC[22:00:40] *** vooshy has quit IRC[22:01:43] *** PulkoMandy is now known as criticalmass-com[22:01:49] *** criticalmass-com is now known as PulkoMandy[22:09:54] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:16:42] *** zgaga has joined #haiku[22:19:17] *** lukove has quit IRC[22:23:31] *** f1assistance has joined #haiku[22:24:13] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[22:27:27] *** f1assistance has left #haiku[22:30:11] *** aksr has joined #haiku[22:30:39] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[22:41:59] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[22:44:06] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[22:49:23] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[22:57:15] *** lukove has joined #haiku[23:01:08] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[23:03:35] *** zgaga has quit IRC[23:12:23] *** amidrew_ is now known as amidrew[23:17:08] <CIA-73> Haiku: pulkomandy * r42588 /haiku/trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42588 :[23:17:09] <CIA-73> * Fix DecoratorFrame() for kLeftTitledWindowLook windows[23:17:09] <CIA-73> * Use it in notification window for better positionning.[23:17:09] <CIA-73> Thanks augiedoggie for reporting the problem ![23:17:11] *** Malmis has quit IRC[23:23:17] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[23:23:59] *** Disreali has quit IRC[23:24:15] *** Stellar has quit IRC[23:38:26] *** The123king has quit IRC[23:40:15] * mmu_man watches the "night of the stars" program on arte, and readies for the Ariane broadcast starting just *now* on mms://wms.190E.edgecastcdn.net/20190E/AE_FR_IP201[23:41:29] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[23:42:02] <DaaT> what's the cargo?[23:47:21] <mmu_man> http://www.planet-techno-science.com/ciel-et-espace/decollage-ariane-5-va203-vendredi-5-aout-2011/[23:47:28] <mmu_man> ASTRA 1N et BSAT-3c/JCSAT-110R[23:48:01] <mmu_man> http://www.videocorner.tv/index.htm (flash or silverlight :()[23:50:55] <mmu_man> mms://wms.190E.edgecastcdn.net/20190E/AE_VA_IP203 english stream[23:54:09] <mmu_man> countdown halted[23:55:23] *** Malmis has joined #haiku