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[00:34:52] <CIA-73> Haiku: czeidler * r42576 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/stackandtile/ (SATWindow.cpp SATWindow.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42576 : When removing a window from the stack keep the mouse at the same tab position.
[00:38:38] <CIA-73> Haiku: czeidler * r42577 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (Desktop.cpp Desktop.h) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42577 :
[00:38:38] <CIA-73> When activating a window also bring all windows in the stack to the front layer.
[00:38:38] <CIA-73> I used the ActivateWindow method because there is some magic involved when
[00:38:38] <CIA-73> changing the layer position, utilising this method seems to be a safe way to do
[00:38:38] <CIA-73> it.
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[04:40:18] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42578 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/ (atombios/atom.h atombios/atombios.h bios.cpp bios.h mode.cpp) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42578 :
[04:40:18] <CIA-73> * add required atombios.h from drm driver from linux 3.0 with a few tweaks
[04:40:18] <CIA-73> (we aren't taking ownership of this one.. yikes)
[04:40:18] <CIA-73> * add first AtomBIOS call to test the waters
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[07:37:44] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42579 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/atombios/atom.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42579 : * improve debugging in AtomBIOS atom.c parser
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[07:50:46] <CIA-73> Haiku: kallisti5 * r42580 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/atombios/atom.cpp http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42580 : * repair time by slowing it down
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[08:42:25] <hdanak> hi, i'm wondering if anyone is getting this error when configuring (for gcc2hybrid): "fatal error: genrtl.h: No such file or directory"
[08:44:35] <Duggan> I haven't reconfigured in the last few days... but I can try to look into it
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[08:48:12] <Duggan> I can't find a file named "genrtl.h" anywhere :/
[08:50:29] <hdanak> it seems to exist in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu on my system
[08:50:35] <hdanak> but i have gcc-multilib installed
[08:50:42] <hdanak> (i'm on arch linux, x86_64)
[08:50:57] <augiedoggie> are you using the linux32 command when you configure
[08:51:03] <hdanak> i tried making a symlink to i686-pc-linux-gnu also
[08:51:04] <hdanak> yes
[08:52:03] <hdanak> can it be because my version of gcc is too new?
[08:52:21] <hdanak> 4.6.1
[08:52:21] <Duggan> yeah, linux stuff I can't help you with... 64 bit stuff I can't help you with... I'm pretty much useless here
[08:53:09] <hdanak> it's weird since it used to compile fine, and i didn't even have multilib back then
[08:53:44] <augiedoggie> I don't have that file on any of my systems
[08:54:02] <augiedoggie> I haven't rebuilt the compilers in a while but I don't remember any changes
[08:54:15] <hdanak> weird
[08:54:23] <OmniMancer> but is there mention of it? and where?
[08:54:29] <augiedoggie> what is the configure command you're using?
[08:54:44] <hdanak> hold on, let me pastebin it
[08:57:25] <hdanak> i'm compiling a gcc2hybrid, with linux32
[08:57:34] <hdanak> /hdanak/develop/haiku/buildtools/legacy/gcc/gcc/rtl.h:1177:20: fatal error: genrtl.h: No such file or directory
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[09:00:26] <hdanak> it seems the paste is a bit long...
[09:00:40] <OmniMancer> that is in building gcc2?
[09:00:43] <hdanak> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pJAWxwAn
[09:00:47] <hdanak> yeah
[09:01:12] <OmniMancer> is that file in the gcc2 source anywhere?
[09:01:23] <hdanak> i don't think so
[09:01:26] <hdanak> but it's linked
[09:01:27] <OmniMancer> wait
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[09:01:38] <OmniMancer> /hdanak/develop/haiku/buildtools/legacy/gcc/gcc/config/i386/winnt.c:24:0:
[09:01:57] <augiedoggie> your paste doesn't include the command you're running
[09:02:09] <hdanak> yeah, somehow that didn't get recorded
[09:02:20] <hdanak> linux32 ../configure --alternative-gcc-output-dir ../generated.x86gcc4 --build-cross-tools ../../buildtools/ --include-gpl-addons --include-3rdparty --include-patented-code --use-gcc-pipe
[09:02:24] <OmniMancer> what does winnt mean there and if it means windows nt why is it building this?
[09:02:39] <hdanak> i couldn't really figure it out
[09:02:47] <augiedoggie> probably doesn't recognize his OS
[09:02:57] <hdanak> the triplet from config.guess shows "i686-pc-linux-gnu"
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[09:03:07] <hdanak> that's for linux32 ./config.guess
[09:03:12] <augiedoggie> hmm, dunno then
[09:03:16] <hdanak> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[09:03:19] <hdanak> for normal
[09:05:40] <augiedoggie> some of the output looks weird
[09:05:50] <augiedoggie> like it's trying to run multiple jobs
[09:06:00] <augiedoggie> during the configure phase
[09:06:06] <hdanak> hmm, yeah i saw that, not sure
[09:06:41] <hdanak> there isn't -j in my CFLAGS
[09:07:13] <hdanak> but maybe it always says that
[09:07:25] <hdanak> idk why it tries to build winnt
[09:08:03] <OmniMancer> hdanak: can you look in winnt.c and try to find some indication of what its meant for?
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[09:09:05] <augiedoggie> hm, then it starts building the compiler while the configure is still running
[09:09:18] <augiedoggie> or binutils I should say
[09:10:02] <hdanak> let me delete the files it made in generated.x86gcc2
[09:10:14] <hdanak> winnt.c is for windows NT
[09:10:19] <OmniMancer> erg
[09:10:26] <OmniMancer> kk
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[09:11:02] <OmniMancer> yea its building binutils while configure is running :/
[09:11:16] <hdanak> idk why it is running multiple jobs...
[09:16:56] <hdanak> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CfWk44nS
[09:19:24] <hdanak> i'm trying again without the extra flags on the end
[09:20:54] <hdanak> nope, same error
[09:22:57] <hdanak> i might just build a gcc4 build
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[09:25:09] <hdanak> not even sure why anyone bothers with gcc2... you'd think that whoever wrote the few useful beos apps that were closed source can just recompile
[09:26:14] <hdanak> hmm
[09:26:20] <hdanak> gcc4 has the same error
[09:26:21] <augiedoggie> my primary Haiku install is just gcc4, I only use Alpha3 when I'm compiling to release to the public
[09:26:28] <hdanak> that is very weird
[09:26:53] <hdanak> i don't understand why it can't use x86_64
[09:27:04] <hdanak> i mean, why does the cross compiler have to be 32 bits
[09:27:32] <augiedoggie> I thought gcc4 can be built without the linux32 command
[09:27:39] <augiedoggie> s/can/could/
[09:27:45] <hdanak> hmm
[09:27:49] <hdanak> that's what i thought
[09:28:52] <hdanak> ok, this time it's my fault
[09:29:14] <hdanak> i wrote the wrong command
[09:29:26] <hdanak> i was beginning to get worried there
[09:31:13] <tqh> gcc4 don't need linux32 only gcc2
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[11:20:57] <Teknomancer> morning
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[11:44:22] <Duggan> hey Teknomancer
[11:48:20] <Teknomancer> hi Duggan
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[14:27:54] <Teknomancer> tomorrow will be haiku's test :) finally going to try out the live CD on the laptops
[14:28:20] <Teknomancer> hopefully it boots fine and i can get a linux+haiku laptop
[14:31:33] <OmniMancer> \o/
[14:37:39] <Teknomancer> will only be trying out R1a3 though
[14:37:56] <Teknomancer> don't think i'm going to bother re-burning the latest nightly
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[14:54:04] <Disreali> greetings
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[15:01:42] <Teknomancer> hi Disreali
[15:02:16] <Disreali> hey Teknomancer, whats new?
[15:02:40] <Teknomancer> nothing much, just waiting for tomorrow
[15:03:52] <Disreali> what is special about tomorrow? weekend?
[15:04:57] <Teknomancer> yep
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[17:21:04] <brrant> I'm only waiting for Friday night.
[17:22:55] <Teknomancer> pawrdying pawrdying?
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[19:16:43] <ddavid123> Hello everyone, good day for you?
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[19:36:20] <HaikuUser> hello
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[19:59:56] <ddavid123> HaikuUser Hello
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[20:02:02] <ddavid123> Anarchos How have you been? Haven't talked with you in a while.
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[20:24:01] <Anarchos> ddavid123 hi i am fine
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[21:16:55] <Anarchos> hi pfoetchen
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[22:48:16] <CIA-73> Haiku: humdinger * r42581 /haiku/trunk/data/catalogs/ (59 files in 13 dirs) http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/42581 : Updated catkeys from HTA. Thanks all.
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[23:09:18] <jrabbit> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/j9pw1/hacker_typer_click_the_hack_button_go_fullscreen/ hahaha
[23:12:21] <PulkoMandy> mh... lacks some crazy assembler code :)
[23:14:04] <jrabbit> PulkoMandy: you can upload whatever you want
[23:14:10] <jrabbit> the illiad even
[23:14:33] <PulkoMandy> yup... but then I'd have to actually *write* the code first, right ?
[23:16:32] <jrabbit> heh probably
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[23:52:18] <AcerAspire> Hello. I have a question about Haiku.
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[23:52:39] <AcerAspire> How is security?
[23:52:56] <augiedoggie> what security? :P
[23:53:36] <AcerAspire> Obviously, you don't get Windows viruses. Nobody will develope viruses for Haiku because hardly anyone uses it
[23:53:51] <AcerAspire> But what about hackers?
[23:54:26] <AcerAspire> Are Haiku developers also security experts?
[23:54:50] <AcerAspire> Or is Haiku only safe until somebody decides to hack it??
[23:55:08] <augiedoggie> depends on what you mean by "hack"
[23:55:17] <augiedoggie> there are very few network services by default for Haiku
[23:55:18] <helf2> its alpha
[23:55:54] <AcerAspire> Is it inheritably flawed like Win9X?
[23:56:08] <helf2> i think its probably more secure than beos r5 was
[23:56:11] <AcerAspire> Or does it have a good structure like BSD?
[23:56:33] <helf2> I have on idea. you'd really have to talk with a dev I suppose
[23:56:45] <helf2> geist would probably have an idea
[23:56:51] * helf2 pokes geist
[23:56:56] <augiedoggie> it's primarily a single user operating system, but it has foundations from unix
[23:57:19] <helf2> it has full on file permissions and what not
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[23:57:45] <DraX> how is win9x ``inheritably'' flawed
[23:58:05] <DraX> do you mean inherently?
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[23:59:03] <DraX> and if so, my question still stands.
[23:59:15] <AcerAspire> something like that. English is my 2. language.
[23:59:16] <DraX> also what is ``good structure''
[23:59:58] <AcerAspire> Windows got a lot better after NT.
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