July 19, 2010 
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July 19, 2010 [00:02:35] *** Shisui has quit IRC[00:08:22] * JonathanThompson moos[00:08:57] <brobostigon> good night all, sleep well.[00:09:11] <dru345> hi JonathanThompson[00:09:15] <dru345> goodnight brobostigon[00:09:19] * Ziusudra tips JonathanThompson[00:09:29] <JonathanThompson> Hi dru345 and Ziusudra and brobostigon.[00:09:44] <brobostigon> night dru345 and JonathanThompson[00:09:53] <JonathanThompson> Bey brobostigon.[00:10:01] <brobostigon> bye JonathanThompson[00:10:09] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[00:10:55] *** mmlr has quit IRC[00:22:31] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:27:31] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:34:57] *** raichoo has quit IRC[00:38:57] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:49:19] *** srbaker has quit IRC[00:56:50] <l_n> have any of you tested the abuse build i uploaded to haikuware on gcc2hybrid?[00:57:29] *** srbaker has joined #haiku[01:00:22] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:01:13] <l_n> hello, mmadia[01:01:37] <mmadia> hi[01:11:10] <l_n> hrm.. tmw keeps disconnecting me.[01:23:14] *** oco has quit IRC[01:23:30] <l_n> that's getting annoying.[01:23:51] * dru345 offers a anchor to l_n[01:23:57] <dru345> an*[01:24:10] <l_n> hrm.. i'm missing the joke.. :([01:24:53] *** largo has joined #haiku[01:28:06] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:36:30] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[01:36:36] *** handheldcar2 has quit IRC[01:37:46] *** Beyecixramd has joined #haiku[01:40:33] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:40:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:41:37] *** Toekutr has quit IRC[01:42:49] <dru345> sorry. the anchor would help you stay in place l_n[01:43:19] <dru345> like a boat deploying its anchor[01:44:00] <l_n> ah, i see[01:45:44] * dru345 goes back to looking at Tracker[01:47:48] *** l_n has quit IRC[01:51:32] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[01:52:39] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37571 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/debug/debug.cpp:[01:52:39] <CIA-49> syslog_sender():[01:52:39] <CIA-49> * After an unsuccessful find_port() wait a while before trying again.[01:52:39] <CIA-49> find_port() is quite expensive and particularly during the boot process it[01:52:39] <CIA-49> was called quite busily. Essentially a find_port() per written syslog[01:52:39] <CIA-49> message was performed.[01:52:39] <CIA-49> * Added TODOs regarding using a semaphore and using find_port().[01:53:33] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[02:03:14] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:19:56] * Xeon3D going to try and compile haiku on Arch :D[02:20:03] <Xeon3D> (yes, I'm that bored)[02:20:37] <gluon> I'm learning the API and the way Haiku handles events is quite simple/elegant[02:21:09] <gluon> Many other GUI API's usually get messy in this department (like Java for instance)[02:21:25] <dru345> yes[02:21:53] <gluon> BMessage and friends are nice[02:23:30] <gluon> I'm now curious to read about the Network kit[02:24:03] <gluon> too many years of ugly bsd socket function calls...[02:24:07] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:24:14] <gluon> I guess I'll have a nice surprise[02:25:48] <Xeon3D> hey mmadia :)[02:26:18] * mmadia ran out of hello's for the day.[02:26:21] <mmadia> :P[02:28:08] <Xeon3D> seems you had one left. :)[02:28:08] <mmadia> is anyone on r37529 or newer and willing to test a bug that'll crash app_server?[02:28:26] * Xeon3D is svnning out the source atm[02:30:37] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:35:36] *** _gringo has quit IRC[02:39:21] <Xeon3D> erm[02:39:42] <Xeon3D> is there a remedy for the french keyboard checkout problem?[02:40:33] <Xeon3D> svn: Can't convert string from 'UTF-8' to native encoding:[02:40:33] <Xeon3D> svn: haiku/haiku/src/data/keymaps/French (B?\195?\169po).keymap[02:44:14] <cpr420> use mercurial ;)[02:45:05] <cpr420> if you must use svn, you can set a locale environment variable to get around that[02:45:26] <Xeon3D> oh[02:45:30] <Xeon3D> hg is working already?[02:45:42] <cpr420> the mirror has been running for over a year[02:45:55] <Xeon3D> hmmm[02:46:09] * Xeon3D has no idea on how and where to go with mercurial[02:46:31] <cpr420> hg clone http://hg.haiku-os.org/haiku/haiku-trunk haiku[02:48:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:48:35] <cpr420> mmadia: i can test that if you want[02:48:48] <mmadia> #6334[02:49:57] <cpr420> BOOM![02:50:05] <mmadia> yes?[02:50:18] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:50:27] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[02:50:30] <cpr420> yeah, exited full screen and had no decorator, opened a couple of menus and app_server died[02:50:39] <cpr420> r37541[02:52:26] <cpr420> maybe you should mention the decorator problem in the ticket?[02:52:53] <mmadia> yeah, i just added it.[02:53:44] <Xeon3D> mmadia: thinking of creating a hg guide to build haiku?[02:54:17] <mmadia> nope. i don't use hg for checking out Haiku. ... i'm still waiting on the VCS discussion to update BOM[02:54:26] <Xeon3D> also, is it normal for it to be taking a lot of time on "adding file changes" ?[02:54:34] * Xeon3D never used hg before.[02:54:46] <cpr420> yes, it's updating your working copy[02:54:57] <Xeon3D> because my hd led is hardly blinking...[02:55:01] <cpr420> you can enable the progress extension to see more details[02:55:50] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[02:57:49] <cpr420> Xeon3D: I lied, at that stage I think it's still pulling revisions over the net[02:59:00] <Xeon3D> hmmm[02:59:04] <Xeon3D> it's going fairly slow[02:59:15] <Xeon3D> wait[02:59:22] <Xeon3D> is it going to pull all revisions?[02:59:23] <Xeon3D> :X[02:59:30] <dru345> >:D[02:59:48] <cpr420> yes, but in my experience it can pull the entire history as fast as a simple svn checkout[03:00:21] <cpr420> and around the same amount of disk space[03:01:46] <Xeon3D> hmmm[03:01:48] <Xeon3D> so it seems[03:01:55] <Xeon3D> the "getting the files" part was kinda quick.[03:01:59] * Xeon3D doesn't get it.[03:02:47] <cpr420> it pulls down the 'database' of the project history and then extracts files from that to your working copy[03:06:18] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[03:07:22] <Xeon3D> cpr420: and to update hg update?[03:07:28] <cpr420> hg pull -uv[03:07:43] <cpr420> or hg pull && hg update[03:09:16] <Xeon3D> kk thanks![03:11:00] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37572 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/userlandfs/server/haiku/haiku_kernel_emu.cpp:[03:11:00] <CIA-49> do_iterative_fd_io(): Don't fail when the getVecs callback returns[03:11:00] <CIA-49> B_BUFFER_OVERFLOW. It will have returned valid vectors in this case.[03:16:41] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37573 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/File.cpp: (log message trimmed)[03:16:41] <CIA-49> File::GetFileVecs():[03:16:41] <CIA-49> * Added debug output.[03:16:41] <CIA-49> * Rounding up the size argument could cause an overflow. Use uint64 and block[03:16:41] <CIA-49> indexes, now.[03:16:41] <CIA-49> * The iteration index wasn't incremented in the main loop.[03:16:41] <CIA-49> * The in-block index was ignored when filling the first vector. Shouldn't[03:17:27] <Xeon3D> cpr420: but the hg mirror doesn't update when the svn updates does it?[03:17:43] <cpr420> it's behind 30 secs to a minute[03:18:12] <Xeon3D> and it doesn't use the same "revisions" as the svn...[03:18:19] <cpr420> sort of[03:18:29] <cpr420> it has the svn revs in the commit message[03:18:53] <cpr420> but mercurial uses a long hash to represent changesets[03:28:26] <Xeon3D> hmmm compiling seems to be faster than normal...[03:29:19] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[03:29:32] <Xeon3D> probably due to the BFQ scheduler.[03:32:00] *** l_n has joined #haiku[03:32:51] <l_n> has anybody tested abuse with gcc2hybrid yet?[03:33:33] <l_n> and haikuware is dog slow..[03:35:28] <dru345> not tested[03:38:13] <l_n> wow.. i forgot about my clisp efforts...[03:38:22] * l_n found the source (binaries?) in ~/[03:38:29] <CIA-49> bga * r37574 /buildtools/trunk/legacy/gcc/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c:[03:38:29] <CIA-49> The strcpy() usage would overwrite its own buffer. The behaviour somehow[03:38:29] <CIA-49> worked in Linux but it seems to have changed in Ubuntu 10.04 x64 and[03:38:29] <CIA-49> compiling GCC 2 would not work on it.[03:38:29] <CIA-49> Thanks to Shisui for the investigation and original patch and to Ingo who[03:38:29] <CIA-49> noticed a simpler way to fix the problem.[03:45:23] <l_n> i still have a working xemacs stashed in /boot/apps[03:46:59] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[03:47:05] <dru345> hi Duggan[03:47:18] <Duggan> hey dru345[03:47:21] <l_n> hello, Duggan[03:47:25] <Duggan> hey l_n[03:47:54] <Duggan> just installed BSD where SuSE used to be... now if I could only figure out how to use it :/[03:48:02] * l_n is trying to decide whether to go get a real mouse and play abuse or login to tmw[03:48:19] <Duggan> hehe[03:48:22] <l_n> Duggan: think about what frustrated you with linux, and do what you thought would work[03:48:33] <Duggan> get rid of it?[03:48:48] <l_n> no.. i mean, BSD makes sense in a lot of the places where gnu/linux didn't[03:48:59] * l_n still has an affinity for fbsd[03:49:05] <Duggan> thats what I installed[03:49:13] <Duggan> no doubt its better, I can almost tell that already[03:49:27] <l_n> the base system at least is developed as a whole[03:49:59] <Duggan> the setup program took a bit to understand, but wasn't too bad[03:50:11] <Duggan> I installed KDE, I just don't know how to start it lol[03:50:16] <l_n> fbsd setup is a breeze once you realize that /it makes sense!/[03:50:26] <l_n> type 'startx'[03:50:32] <l_n> actually, first:[03:50:33] <Duggan> it was alot better than any linux setup crap :/[03:50:48] <Duggan> except suse did have yast....[03:50:51] <l_n> echo 'exec startkde' > ~/.xinitrc[03:50:54] <l_n> then startx[03:51:46] <Duggan> groovy[03:51:59] <Duggan> there wouldn't happen to be a handy-dandy package manager would there?[03:52:07] <l_n> ports[03:52:22] * l_n resists the urge to shout RTFM :P[03:52:27] <Duggan> lol[03:52:43] <Duggan> I'll get there[03:53:02] <l_n> seriously, the handbook is one of the finest bits of unix documentation ever written.[03:53:04] <l_n> :)[03:53:15] <Duggan> how do I go about reading it again?... lol[03:53:23] <l_n> read the topic in ##freebsd[03:53:34] <l_n> or just go to freebsd.org[03:53:55] <Duggan> got it[03:54:31] <Duggan> if only I knew where to start... lol[03:55:11] <l_n> just start poking around[03:55:20] * l_n usually installs base and the ports tree[03:55:54] <l_n> and then cd /usr/local/ports/<category>/<port> && make install clean[03:55:56] <l_n> :)[03:56:27] <Duggan> hehe[03:57:02] <l_n> it takes about a week or two for me to get fbsd adjusted right[03:57:14] <l_n> and then i just browse the web and play a couple of games. :P[03:58:38] <Duggan> thats all I really used any version of linux for[03:58:48] *** Sir_Konrad has quit IRC[03:58:57] <Duggan> I never was into linux much, I'm not expecting to be a power bsd user either[03:59:21] <Duggan> but I figure bsd is probably better than linux, I know I agree with the licensing more[03:59:36] <Duggan> and maybe, just maybe, it'll treat me better than any linux distro ever has[03:59:45] <dru345> :D[04:00:03] <l_n> it's one, centrally-controlled, coherent whole.[04:00:07] * Duggan wonders why after 15 years, X is still at version 11...[04:00:12] <l_n> with tight quality control. :P[04:00:21] <Duggan> good :)[04:00:25] <Duggan> something linux lacks...[04:00:29] <l_n> because it's a complicated beast that's impossible to code :P[04:00:34] <Duggan> lol[04:00:44] <Duggan> then why hasn't anyone done better? :P[04:00:52] <l_n> because X works[04:00:59] <Duggan> good enough I suppose[04:00:59] <l_n> it's what they've always used.[04:01:42] <l_n> "if it's not that broken, why bother to do more than duct-tape it?"[04:03:16] <Duggan> hehe, ask Microsoft :P[04:06:48] <Duggan> brb[04:07:45] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[04:09:28] *** absabs has joined #haiku[04:10:52] * Xeon3D thinks this build is going to be built in record time.[04:11:05] * Xeon3D hugs his Linux kernel and hisses @ the bsd guys :D[04:11:08] *** Beyecixramd has quit IRC[04:13:10] *** toni_ has quit IRC[04:23:52] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:28:07] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[04:40:37] *** hero0ftime has joined #haiku[04:41:21] *** hero0ftime has left #haiku[04:42:03] *** l_n has quit IRC[04:42:36] <Xeon3D> took 26m to compile one of the latest revs...[05:01:54] *** Hodapp has quit IRC[05:06:15] <dru345> that's twice what it was for your machine wasn't it Xeon3D?[05:09:14] *** l_n has joined #haiku[05:09:14] *** l_n has joined #haiku[05:12:55] *** Duggan has quit IRC[05:16:54] <Xeon3D> almost yeah[05:17:08] <Xeon3D> this new kernel of mine rocks :P[05:17:23] <l_n> ?[05:18:36] <dru345> can you make it panic?[05:30:31] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[05:30:45] * l_n press ctrl-cmd-sysrq-d[05:31:00] <l_n> presses*[05:31:34] *** Hodapp has joined #haiku[05:41:45] <l_n> any idea why installing pygame fails at linking with '-lpython2.6 can not be found' ?[05:42:02] <dru345> i have no ideas for you. sorry.[05:43:21] <l_n> broken link[05:45:37] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:47:10] <l_n> hrm.. bypassing an include might not be the best course of action... :P[05:48:02] * Xeon3D did it before :D[05:48:13] <l_n> it's clipboard stuff in pygame[05:48:21] <l_n> didn't think it was all that important for games. :P[05:48:36] <l_n> and haiku handles copying directly, no?[05:49:13] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:49:34] <l_n> i changed an #else to #elif defined(__HAIKU__) #define HAIKU_SCRAP #else[05:49:42] <l_n> which really does nothing. :P[05:50:04] <OmniMancer> :P[05:50:31] <l_n> crap. missing symbols.[05:50:44] <OmniMancer> it seems kaliber made a decent patch for math.h for clang, I think it should just be changed from #ifdef __clang__ to #if __GNUC__ >= 4[05:54:48] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[05:55:45] *** matthias9 has quit IRC[05:56:57] *** acous has quit IRC[05:57:05] *** matthias9 has joined #haiku[05:58:50] <l_n> meh. library hunting is a bitch.[05:59:29] <dru345> yes[05:59:56] <l_n> esp. when it's unknown whether the libs will build/work[06:01:05] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[06:02:27] *** ianj has quit IRC[06:04:31] <l_n> libraries with library dependencies... meh. will work on it tomorrow.[06:04:35] *** l_n has quit IRC[06:13:35] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[06:13:40] *** HaikuUser is now known as Duggan[06:13:51] <Duggan> hrm...[06:14:29] *** ianj has joined #haiku[06:14:38] *** Duggan has quit IRC[06:14:51] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[06:15:49] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[06:15:56] <dru345> wb Duggan[06:16:07] <Duggan> thanks[06:16:37] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[06:22:22] *** Duggan has quit IRC[06:26:56] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[06:27:09] <Duggan> wow.... alot of KDLs tonight...[06:28:14] <Duggan> booted into my other partition and ran a checkfs, said >230k blocks could be freed :/[06:28:22] <dru345> omg O.o[06:29:06] <Duggan> seems like its running fine so far though... I just hope it stays that way[06:30:32] <CK|iPod> You and your wired Internet[06:30:42] <CK|iPod> I have to work with a WPA network[06:30:45] <CK|iPod> :([06:31:01] <Duggan> hehe have fun with that :)[06:37:36] *** saivert has quit IRC[06:43:42] *** saivert has joined #haiku[06:48:15] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[06:48:16] *** saivert has quit IRC[06:51:49] <Duggan> ok, time to try it again...[06:51:56] *** Duggan has quit IRC[06:54:03] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[06:54:31] *** saivert has joined #haiku[06:59:03] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:01:59] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[07:02:42] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[07:03:08] *** IIsi50MHz has quit IRC[07:11:01] *** saivert has quit IRC[07:16:48] *** Ola has joined #haiku[07:16:48] *** saivert has joined #haiku[07:17:03] *** Ola is now known as OlaHughson[07:17:11] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:23:47] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[07:23:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[07:24:38] *** Beyecixramd has joined #haiku[07:30:45] *** veve-mao has joined #haiku[07:37:08] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:51:03] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[07:51:16] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[08:02:09] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[08:02:46] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[08:03:52] *** Nozy has quit IRC[08:04:28] <CIA-49> augiedoggie * r919 /haikuports/trunk/dev-util/global/ (global-5.9.1.bep patches/global-5.9.1.patch): Update global to 5.9.1[08:04:47] *** Shisui has joined #haiku[08:05:10] *** symptom has quit IRC[08:06:18] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[08:07:06] * CK|iPod awaits CIA-49 to state that wpa_supplicant has been ported to haiku.[08:07:48] <cpr420> it already has, it needs bugs fixed in the net stack[08:08:52] <CK|iPod> Uh. I thought the opposite was true[08:09:18] <CK|iPod> I heard the wifi stack was fine but wpa_supplicant wasn't compiling[08:09:31] <Beyecixramd> wpa_supplicant in Haiku??[08:09:35] <cpr420> I'm pretty sure DraX said there was a problem with the ioctls in the kernel/net stack[08:10:06] <Beyecixramd> isn't wpa_supplicant supposed to be focused on Linux (not UNIX) ?[08:10:17] <Beyecixramd> and Haiku isn't even UNIX from what i know[08:10:25] *** jamy has joined #haiku[08:11:13] <CK|iPod> wpa_supplicant is just the application that allows the network system to connect to WPA networks[08:11:30] <CK|iPod> DraX was porting it to haiku[08:11:39] <Beyecixramd> i know[08:11:52] <Beyecixramd> but you won't run wpa_supplicant on... let's say, Win98?[08:11:53] <Beyecixramd> right?[08:12:16] <CK|iPod> Don't use windows for an example[08:12:19] <CK|iPod> Ever[08:12:25] <DraX> there is a windows version of wpa_supplicant actually[08:12:27] <DraX> and freebsd uses it[08:12:28] <Beyecixramd> okay okay wow xD[08:12:35] <DraX> and since the haiku wifi stack is based on freebsd's...[08:12:35] <Beyecixramd> let's say Mac OS X then[08:12:53] <CK|iPod> Mac OS X uses wpa_supplicant.[08:12:59] <Beyecixramd> but it's not the same wpa_supplicant found on Linux, on Windows, right?[08:13:05] <DraX> it is[08:13:06] <Beyecixramd> or on Mac[08:13:07] <CK|iPod> It is[08:13:11] <Beyecixramd> lolz[08:13:14] <Beyecixramd> my bad then[08:13:22] <DraX> wpa_supplicant is a WPA Supplicant for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, and Windows[08:13:23] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[08:13:29] <DraX> from the wpa_supplicant webpage[08:13:41] <Beyecixramd> i thought, since it's a different architecture, different kernel, etc, it should be actually a different tarball[08:13:53] <CK|iPod> DraX: So why doesn't Haiku have WPA(2) support yet?[08:14:12] <DraX> wpa_supplicant talks to the kernel over a thin driver layer, so you just implement a new driver for your platform[08:14:28] <DraX> CK|iPod: ioctls that push structs into the kernel fail for unknown reasons and I just haven't bothered to try and kernel debug[08:14:40] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:14:41] <DraX> axel has a url to the code though, and some background[08:14:48] <CIA-49> jackburton * r37575 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (AppearPrefView.cpp Colors.cpp Colors.h):[08:14:48] <CIA-49> Style.[08:14:48] <CIA-49> Add NULL guard to the color schemes struct, although the code was safe[08:14:48] <CIA-49> neverthless (for now)[08:14:51] <Beyecixramd> DraX: oh, cool[08:14:54] <DraX> so when he starts his contract he'll probably be able to make use of the work i've already done[08:14:55] <CK|iPod> DraX: Why not? :<[08:14:59] <CK|iPod> Oh[08:15:03] <CK|iPod> Awesome![08:15:17] <Beyecixramd> DraX: so actually, the different layers are compilled into a single tarball which detects your OS and installs the appropiate layer, am i wrong?[08:15:42] <DraX> well you have to hand pick which drivers you want[08:15:44] <DraX> but more or less[08:15:53] <CK|iPod> I can't wait to see the cia bot crashing from all of the commits that will be flooding when axel is working. :D[08:16:01] <Beyecixramd> interesting :P[08:16:16] <Beyecixramd> lol CK|iPod[08:20:25] <michaelvo> me too[08:26:56] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[08:28:19] *** jmayfield has quit IRC[08:31:03] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[08:31:43] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[08:38:48] *** stargater has joined #haiku[08:43:33] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[08:53:01] *** wildur has joined #haiku[09:01:43] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[09:05:22] <stargater> Hi[09:05:45] <dru345> hi[09:18:03] <jamy> hi all[09:25:44] *** skar has joined #haiku[09:26:03] <skar> hi[09:27:37] *** sprma has joined #haiku[09:28:32] <Sikosis> hey skar[09:28:55] <skar> how is going all? Sikosis[09:29:26] <Sikosis> yeh not too bad ... just working on some coding demos for HDU (haikudownunder)[09:32:18] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[09:33:09] <skar> oh![09:33:14] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[09:33:26] <skar> very interesting[09:34:09] <skar> i am really obsesed with the 3d topic more when i get noticed AROS can move 3d things[09:34:18] <skar> with gallium[09:34:21] <Sikosis> if you have anything or know of anyone who has anything to show off or talk about let me know ... otherwise mark that date in your calendar[09:34:34] <Sikosis> sure[09:35:49] <skar> where is this HaikuDownUnder?[09:36:30] <skar> seems like dont know how is it Sikosis[09:36:54] <Sikosis> brisbane[09:37:15] <OmniMancer1> I are in NZ[09:37:18] <Sikosis> ive booked a small conference room at UQ[09:37:41] <skar> UQ?[09:37:45] <Sikosis> but it'll be streamed ...[09:37:52] <Sikosis> University of Queensland[09:37:58] <skar> USA?[09:38:10] <skar> i am from colombia...[09:38:17] <Sikosis> ah ... nah Australia[09:38:31] <skar> oh ok, srry[09:38:45] <Sikosis> yeh no worries ... sorry have to head off now myself[09:39:12] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:41:39] *** wildur has quit IRC[09:47:37] *** srbaker has quit IRC[09:47:57] *** stef has quit IRC[09:48:25] *** srbaker has joined #haiku[09:58:08] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[09:58:41] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[10:00:13] *** RQ has joined #haiku[10:02:14] *** sprma has quit IRC[10:02:14] *** sprma_ is now known as sprma[10:08:16] <CIA-49> zooey * r37576 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/src/system/libroot/posix/locale/ICUCollateData.cpp: * fix build with GCC4[10:12:55] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[10:14:05] <skar> what are the steps to get gallium workin on haiku?[10:14:20] <skar> what are the complex things in this?[10:17:49] *** kitallis has quit IRC[10:23:15] *** stargater has quit IRC[10:23:44] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:25:37] <OmniMancer1> 1) pay aljen money :P[10:34:09] <dru345> :D[10:37:16] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[10:37:17] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[10:38:00] *** srbaker has quit IRC[10:38:40] *** sprma has quit IRC[10:38:40] *** sprma_ is now known as sprma[10:51:49] *** xray7224 has quit IRC[10:54:27] <skar> :D OmniMancer1[10:55:03] <skar> he is the only who know how?[10:56:02] <OmniMancer1> :P[10:56:08] <OmniMancer1> no but he is the one porting it[10:56:15] <OmniMancer1> and he does so in spare time[10:58:07] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[11:00:02] *** sprma has quit IRC[11:00:02] *** sprma_ is now known as sprma[11:07:24] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[11:09:39] <lorglas> hi[11:11:21] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[11:14:35] *** toni_ has joined #haiku[11:16:35] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[11:17:24] <CIA-49> axeld * r37577 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/legacy_drivers.cpp:[11:17:25] <CIA-49> * Corrected and improved debug output.[11:17:25] <CIA-49> * Minor cleanup.[11:17:55] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[11:33:13] *** stef has joined #haiku[11:39:43] *** toni_ has quit IRC[11:40:51] *** toni_ has joined #haiku[11:41:43] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[11:55:03] *** sprma has quit IRC[11:59:09] *** GedMurphy has joined #haiku[12:01:26] * dru345 looks around and waves o/[12:03:45] *** skar has quit IRC[12:11:19] *** jamy has quit IRC[12:12:16] *** ali3n0 has joined #haiku[12:12:20] <ali3n0> hi folks[12:12:24] <dru345> hello[12:13:35] <ali3n0> trying to find discussions about cryptography on haiku lists with no luck[12:14:00] <ali3n0> I guess it's my turn for an email than :)[12:14:08] <dru345> yes I would suggest that[12:14:36] <dru345> I haven't seen such discussions on the mailing lists but I haven't read them before this year[12:14:58] <CIA-49> axeld * r37578 /haiku/trunk/src/libs/compat/freebsd_network/bus.c: * Fixed warning.[12:23:54] *** leo42_ has joined #haiku[12:24:20] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37579 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/checksumfs.cpp: Implemented rename() hook.[12:36:03] <mmu_screen> ali3n0: what kind of ?[12:36:13] <mmu_screen> gpg ? fs ?[12:36:47] *** jamy has joined #haiku[12:37:57] <ali3n0> mmu_screen, just sent an email on haiku list. By the way I'd love something like https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs[12:38:13] <CIA-49> axeld * r37580 /haiku/trunk/src/libs/compat/freebsd_network/ (12 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)[12:38:13] <CIA-49> Fixed a few regressions that were introduced during the last months:[12:38:13] <CIA-49> * device_attach() must not load the network stack. Besides being completely[12:38:13] <CIA-49> unbalanced, this was also one reason why the stack could not be unloaded[12:38:13] <CIA-49> anymore. Instead, it's now done in compat_open(), as before.[12:38:13] <CIA-49> * This also fixes network booting from FreeBSD drivers - the stack apparently[12:38:14] <CIA-49> could not be initialized that early.[12:39:08] <ali3n0> mmu_screen, I use to keep stuff crypted via openssl, but it's very handy to have personal folders automatically encrypted[12:40:50] <mmu_screen> there is a cryptoloop driver around but it's buggy[12:42:23] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[12:42:34] <RQ> PulkoMandy: hei[12:42:42] <RQ> got a bug report for you[12:43:27] <PulkoMandy> ah :)[12:43:38] <RQ> apps/terminal/en.catkeys contains invalid utf-8: Copyright <C2>^C2003-2009[12:44:05] <RQ> i guess you wanted to add a (C) there, but ended up with messed-up bytes[12:44:25] <RQ> with two random bytes, that is[12:45:38] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37581 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/userlandfs/kernel_add_on/Volume.cpp:[12:45:38] <CIA-49> Volume::Link(): Also unwrap the target vnode. The client FS would get a wrong[12:45:38] <CIA-49> vnode pointer.[12:45:41] <RQ> or is it fixed in BOM?[12:45:49] <PulkoMandy> there are some other problems in that file apparently ...[12:45:53] <PulkoMandy> I'll look[12:46:02] <RQ> thanks[12:46:24] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37582 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/checksumfs.cpp: Implemented link() hook.[12:47:11] *** The123king has joined #haiku[12:47:12] *** The123king has joined #haiku[12:47:37] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[12:47:51] <PulkoMandy> mh... that's strange[12:48:03] <PulkoMandy> apparently the \x unescaping went mad[12:48:16] <PulkoMandy> I'm pretty sure it worked fine before and I didn't change the tools ...[12:48:56] <PulkoMandy> mh... unless it's related to changes in the compiler[12:49:41] <RQ> \x means hex escaping, right?[12:50:31] <PulkoMandy> yes[12:51:10] <PulkoMandy> it's used for some unicode symbols in Haiku, with utf-8 encoding[12:51:17] <PulkoMandy> ellipsis, copyright symbol, and so on[12:51:31] <RQ> yeah[12:51:45] <RQ> though I guess we can also use them unescaped, right?[12:52:14] <PulkoMandy> we could, yes, but then we have to make sure the encoding of the file stays utf-8[12:52:40] <PulkoMandy> the escaped form is happy on any 7-bit ascii compatible encoding[12:52:46] <RQ> right[12:52:52] *** iIngenu has joined #haiku[12:55:54] <CIA-49> axeld * r37583 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/stack/routes.cpp:[12:55:54] <CIA-49> * put_route() now survives being called with a NULL domain (TCP might do this).[12:55:54] <CIA-49> * This fixes bug #6239.[12:56:12] *** DaaT has quit IRC[12:57:06] *** Nom4d3 has joined #haiku[12:58:02] <PulkoMandy> mh... \xA92003 may be what it doesn't like[12:58:17] <PulkoMandy> and ends up parsing weirdly[13:01:42] <RQ> hm[13:01:56] <RQ> Copyright �^C2003-2009[13:02:05] <RQ> it doesn't seem like 2003 is touched[13:02:48] <RQ> but �^C are two distinct bytes. did you escape them separately there or what?[13:07:40] <CIA-49> axeld * r37584 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/icmp/icmp.cpp:[13:07:41] <CIA-49> * Dump a line if an unhandled ICMP packet was received.[13:07:41] <CIA-49> * Cleanup.[13:09:42] <PulkoMandy> RQ: ok, found the bug[13:10:01] *** lorglas has quit IRC[13:10:08] <RQ> cool[13:10:19] <PulkoMandy> the integer parser converted the whole A92003 instead of just A9, but then advanced only 2 chars in the string (assuming that's what would be there)[13:10:25] <PulkoMandy> so 2003 was copied after it too[13:10:29] <PulkoMandy> good catch[13:10:43] <PulkoMandy> I'm just checking it doesn't make anything explode and committing[13:11:00] *** Sloar has joined #haiku[13:11:37] <gluon> Does anyone run qemu under haiku?[13:11:47] <RQ> PulkoMandy: great[13:12:40] *** CIA-49 has quit IRC[13:14:39] <RQ> will the zipfile also be regenerated on BOM?[13:15:42] *** CIA-37 has joined #haiku[13:18:06] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37586 /haiku/trunk/src/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[13:18:06] <CIA-37> * Fix bug spotted by Rimas Kudelis : if an escaped sequence (such as \xA9) was immediately followed by other digits,[13:18:06] <CIA-37> collectcatkeys parsed all the digits instead of just the two associated to the \x, leading to wrong characters in thecatkeys[13:18:06] <CIA-37> file.[13:18:15] <PulkoMandy> here it is :)[13:18:37] <RQ> cool![13:18:53] <RQ> so, is the zip file on BOM already?[13:19:24] <PulkoMandy> no, you have to wait for it to run a new build cycle[13:19:45] <PulkoMandy> no idea how much time it takes...[13:19:45] <RQ> ah[13:20:01] <RQ> can I perhaps modify the file manually then?[13:20:02] <RQ> :)[13:20:17] <PulkoMandy> yes, just replace the 03 with A9[13:20:38] <PulkoMandy> diskprobe can be used for this[13:21:37] <RQ> I'm gonna use nano[13:21:45] <PulkoMandy> as you wish :)[13:21:47] <RQ> do I replace that garbage with a proper (C) sign?[13:22:03] <PulkoMandy> yes, should be the unicode symbol[13:22:05] <RQ> ok[13:22:23] <PulkoMandy> C2 A9 in utf-8, but I'm not sure that helps you much[13:23:39] <RQ> i'll go to charmap and get it from there :D[13:24:12] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:26:26] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[13:29:56] <dru345> c u later o/[13:30:01] *** dru345 has left #haiku[13:30:21] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[13:31:57] <RQ> PulkoMandy: could I convince you to drop the fourth (translation) column from en.catkeys?[13:32:31] *** iIngenu has quit IRC[13:32:32] <RQ> since it's a template, it would be great if the last column was empty.[13:38:09] <The123king> any breaking Haiku news in the last 5 days?[13:41:10] *** iIngenu has joined #haiku[13:44:46] <RQ> PulkoMandy: ?[13:46:26] *** jamy has quit IRC[13:51:41] *** Nom4d3 has quit IRC[13:52:28] *** dantalizing has left #haiku[13:53:27] *** Nom4d3 has joined #haiku[13:54:51] <CIA-37> bonefish * r37587 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/driver/checksum_device.cpp:[13:54:51] <CIA-37> Open the underlying file (or device) with O_NOCACHE. This works around a[13:54:51] <CIA-37> potential page writer deadlock.[13:56:02] *** Nom4d3 has quit IRC[13:56:18] <CIA-37> bonefish * r37588 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/ (4 files):[13:56:18] <CIA-37> BlockAllocator didn't update the freeBlocks field in the superblock. So after[13:56:18] <CIA-37> unmounting and remounting the number of free blocks could be off.[13:57:34] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[14:00:42] *** Nom4d3 has joined #haiku[14:01:08] <PulkoMandy> RQ: sorry, I was debugging :)[14:01:21] <PulkoMandy> well, this would mean a different format and a different tool for me[14:01:36] <PulkoMandy> can't you just run it through cut or some similar unix tool ?[14:02:55] <RQ> hm, I guess I can...[14:05:12] *** glow has joined #haiku[14:05:20] <RQ> cut -f1-3 should work, I guess? :)[14:06:10] *** jamy has joined #haiku[14:06:55] *** The123king has quit IRC[14:07:45] <PulkoMandy> something like that, yes[14:07:55] <PulkoMandy> (setting the separator to tab if that isn't the default)[14:08:36] <RQ> it is[14:09:12] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37589 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/decorators/MacDecorator/ (MacDecorator.cpp MacDecorator.h): * Update the MacDecorator to be more in-line with the new API. It still doesn't draw anything, however.[14:10:17] <RQ> PulkoMandy: could you make the md5sum file only contain the filename instead of full path to it, and with .tmp ?[14:10:41] <RQ> cause right now I have to apply some sed to it first in order for it to validate[14:10:52] *** toni_ has quit IRC[14:15:25] *** kurain__ has joined #haiku[14:16:48] <CIA-37> axeld * r37590 /haiku/trunk/src/system/boot/loader/kernel_args.cpp:[14:16:48] <CIA-37> * Enlarged chunk size to 64k - this fixes boot over the network.[14:16:48] <CIA-37> * Fixed typos.[14:23:26] *** The123king has joined #haiku[14:23:26] *** The123king has joined #haiku[14:25:23] *** adriano-src has joined #haiku[14:27:39] <Disreali> morning[14:28:39] <stpere> morning[14:29:11] <kurain__> hi, disreal, stpere marcos, dru345[14:30:04] <jamy> morning, but i have afternoone now :)[14:30:16] <kurain__> it is night here[14:30:24] *** desen has joined #haiku[14:30:42] <kurain__> hello absabs![14:35:43] <CIA-37> jackburton * r37591 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/TRoster.cpp: Fix warning.[14:36:29] <CIA-37> jackburton * r37592 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/BuildSetup: Add midi_server, print_server and registrar to the WError list.[14:37:03] *** absabs has quit IRC[14:48:36] *** desen has quit IRC[15:05:15] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[15:05:44] *** jamy has quit IRC[15:17:58] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[15:19:47] <CIA-37> jackburton * r37593 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/BuildSetup: Also add debug_server, input_server and cddb_daemon to the WError list.[15:20:53] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[15:25:30] *** adriano-src has quit IRC[15:27:24] <Anarchos> where is a good tutorial to create a HVIF icon ?[15:28:29] *** GedM has joined #haiku[15:29:41] *** leszek has joined #haiku[15:29:43] <leszek> hi[15:32:00] *** GedMurphy has quit IRC[15:32:37] *** Nom4d3 has quit IRC[15:32:50] *** Nom4d3 has joined #haiku[15:32:57] *** Nom4d3 has left #haiku[15:40:38] <mmu_screen> Anarchos: I'm sure there is at least one in /documents on the website[15:41:16] <Anarchos> mmu_screen i know but i can'nt do with it[15:41:44] <mmu_screen> hmm http://www.haiku-os.org/articles/2009-09-14_why_haiku_vector_icons_are_so_small is just technical[15:41:58] <mmu_screen> http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2006-11-06/icon_facts[15:42:19] <mmu_screen> hmm stippi did a presentation at BG once[15:42:23] <mmu_screen> there must be a video of that[15:43:27] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[15:44:50] *** oZ] has joined #haiku[15:45:10] <CIA-37> axeld * r37594 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/ (5 files in 2 dirs):[15:45:11] <CIA-37> * Made the stack send out interface change notifications where needed (at least[15:45:11] <CIA-37> hopefully :-)).[15:45:11] <CIA-37> * Improved interface change notification to include the flags that changed.[15:45:36] <PulkoMandy> mh... how is deskbar done, is it a regular BApplication ? because the locale kit seems to think its mimetype is libtracker's one ...[15:46:05] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy it is linked with libtracker, but look at the code to see if it contains a BApplication object ![15:47:45] *** lorglas has quit IRC[15:53:37] *** The123king has quit IRC[15:54:56] <CIA-37> bonefish * r37595 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/ (9 files): Implemented hooks write_fs_info(), sync(), set_flags(), fsync(), access().[16:00:20] *** Sloar has left #haiku[16:04:05] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37596 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/deskbar/ (BeMenu.cpp Jamfile):[16:04:05] <CIA-37> * $(HAIKU_LOCALE_LIBS) must be linked before "tracker", or else the wrong CatalogStub is used by the deskbar.[16:04:05] <CIA-37> * Also fix some style problems and fix the build with APM-aware deskbar (was missing a B_TRANSLATE but did feature the closing parenthesis for it).[16:04:55] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:05:13] <leszek> Jobs as Vader xD: http://bit.ly/aJBXs4[16:09:38] <Anarchos> mmu_screen i draw a path, but i don't know how to define the frontier as curves and to fill it with color[16:11:36] <PulkoMandy> you can't fill a path directly[16:11:41] <PulkoMandy> a path is just a path[16:11:58] <PulkoMandy> you have to create a shape that uses your path + some color[16:12:12] <PulkoMandy> and then you can apply transforms to the shape[16:12:32] <PulkoMandy> so the same path can be used in different shapes and look very different in each of them[16:13:17] <Anarchos> oh i just found i had to right-click on the different menus... :) thanks for the explanation[16:15:50] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:15:55] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:17:11] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy how to change the center of the radial color-gradient ?[16:18:04] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[16:18:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[16:18:32] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[16:18:58] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy i try to do the icon of musescore ...[16:19:57] <PulkoMandy> mh... never played with gradients[16:20:00] *** RQ has quit IRC[16:20:06] <PulkoMandy> the only thing I did are the flags in the locale preflet[16:20:17] <PulkoMandy> (and most of thel are not really well done)[16:21:44] *** RQ has joined #haiku[16:23:29] *** leo42_ is now known as warpdesign__[16:27:22] <The123king> Any work on the Haiku Theme Manager? Or is it just an empty page on OSDrawer?[16:27:57] *** slaye has left #haiku[16:28:32] <Disreali> there is a Haiku Theme Manager? news to me[16:29:45] <Disreali> iirc, mmu_man is the one who does the most with Decorators on trunk, though what that has to do with a theme mgr... I don't know[16:30:38] *** LoganA has quit IRC[16:30:39] <The123king> speaking of decorators.....[16:30:47] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[16:31:24] <mmu_screen> actually PulkoMandy does more[16:31:40] <mmu_screen> I just want to have them working so I can set them from the themes[16:31:40] <mmu_screen> :p[16:31:50] <mmu_screen> which includes the setting[16:31:50] <PulkoMandy> mmu_screen does the theme manager but keeps it hidden in his 3rdparty branch[16:31:59] <PulkoMandy> ClassicBe works fine[16:32:09] <mmu_screen> The123king: I just created the project page there[16:32:12] <PulkoMandy> (but it doesn't use the color settings yet)[16:32:25] <mmu_screen> I need to find a way to migrate the history from trunk/3rdparty to it[16:32:40] <PulkoMandy> I had the Macdecorator mostly working at BeGeistert, but now it's all broken again[16:32:42] <mmu_screen> if anyone gets rsvndump working just tell me :p[16:35:26] *** ali3n0 has quit IRC[16:53:53] <phoudoin> Hi Anarchos. Saw your article on Beosfrance about TexLive haiku port.[16:53:58] <phoudoin> Congrats[16:54:25] <phoudoin> Didn't see the advertized screenshot, though (where is it?)[16:57:12] <CIA-37> axeld * r37597 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch/x86/paging/pae/X86PagingMethodPAE.cpp: * Fixed warnings that occur with GCC4.4.[16:59:28] <CIA-37> zooey * r37598 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/src/tests/system/libroot/posix/locale_test.cpp: * locale_test now checks expected results for all tests[17:00:35] <CIA-37> axeld * r37599 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):[17:00:35] <CIA-37> Patch by Atis Elsts with only minor changes by myself:[17:00:35] <CIA-37> * Moved ip6.h header from FreeBSD private to posix/netinet.[17:00:35] <CIA-37> * Added some more IPv6 support definitions to in.h, and in6.h.[17:00:35] <CIA-37> * Added icmp6.h header.[17:03:13] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[17:06:43] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[17:13:49] *** RQ has quit IRC[17:18:38] *** DocPheniX has joined #haiku[17:20:28] *** ali3n0 has joined #haiku[17:21:32] <CIA-37> axeld * r37600 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/network/ (7 files in 5 dirs):[17:21:32] <CIA-37> Another patch by Atis Elsts:[17:21:32] <CIA-37> * Added ping6 command from FreeBSD.[17:21:32] <CIA-37> * tcpdump is now built with IPv6 supprt.[17:21:32] <CIA-37> * added IPv6 support to route, and ifconfig (the family stuff should eventually[17:28:01] <CIA-37> bonefish * r37601 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/file_corruption/fs/ (10 files): Added node monitoring support.[17:34:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[17:36:14] *** Barrett has quit IRC[17:44:02] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37602 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):[17:44:02] <CIA-37> * Fix \x parsing in collectcatkeys again (thanks to Kaliber)[17:44:02] <CIA-37> * Hide the CatalogStub::GetCatalog method so that if liblocalestub.a is missing from a localized image, it will not try to steal the catalog of another one.[17:47:28] *** RQ has joined #haiku[17:49:59] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[17:54:44] *** GedM has quit IRC[17:56:30] <gluon> any translators around using the HTA?[17:59:13] <kurain__> nop[18:00:15] <kurain__> I haven't began translations on HTA[18:00:58] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[18:00:58] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:01:40] *** leszek has joined #haiku[18:02:45] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[18:07:28] <ali3n0> guys, I've got an old version of haiku running on a eeepc 701, it's on a dedicated partition. What's the best way to switch it to alpha2?[18:07:47] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:10:21] <kurain__> hello humdinger[18:10:33] <humdinger> hi kurain[18:11:14] <phoudoin> ali3n0: boot from CD or USB key with Haiku R1 alpha2, run Installer and select your dedicated partition as destination volume.[18:11:37] <phoudoin> An alert will popup, saying there is already an Haiku installed there.[18:11:44] <ali3n0> phoudoin, isn't there a raw image as for old versions?[18:12:24] <phoudoin> Two choice there: overwrite (your personal files will be lost) or replace (no data loss)[18:12:36] <phoudoin> a raw image of what? r1a2 ?[18:12:43] <phoudoin> Sure, there is:[18:12:44] <ali3n0> ah cool, didn' know about replace feature[18:13:08] <ali3n0> yep, raw for r1a2. anyboot?[18:13:20] <phoudoin> the raw image and iso image are now merged in an "anyboot" image.[18:14:17] *** veve-mao has joined #haiku[18:15:18] *** toni_ has joined #haiku[18:15:26] <kurain__> humdinger, do you know the email of kokito?[18:15:53] <ali3n0> phoudoin, tnx a ton[18:16:11] <phoudoin> non anyboot iso are still available, though, for those who may have bios CD boot issue[18:16:27] <phoudoin> you're welcome. Every alien is :-)[18:16:51] *** Nom4d3 has joined #haiku[18:18:25] <humdinger> kurain__: nope. not here anyways, maybe from some of his frequent mailing lists posts...[18:19:47] <kurain__> ok, I will find that, I have someting to tell him[18:20:18] <kurain__> this summer, I will stay in school, I want to finish the translations[18:21:12] <phoudoin> kurain__: wait a minute...[18:21:37] <kurain__> hello @phoudoin[18:22:32] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37603 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/locale/CatalogStub.cpp: * Style fixes as pointed out by Ingo. Sorry ![18:23:27] <phoudoin> kurain__: regarding kokito, did you try koki at haikuzone dot net address?[18:23:36] *** Nom4d3 has left #haiku[18:24:00] <kurain__> ok, I will try[18:24:10] <kurain__> thank you @phoudoin[18:24:10] <phoudoin> but I'm not sure he will be in the mood to anything regarding Haiku, HTA included.[18:25:14] <kurain__> well, what is the meaning of "*** #haiku You're not channel operator"?[18:25:50] *** lorglas has quit IRC[18:25:54] <phoudoin> that... you don't have operator rights on this channel?[18:26:54] <kurain__> well, is that reffered to me?[18:27:54] <humdinger> I guess it was the "@" in front of phoudoin nick.[18:27:55] *** saivert has quit IRC[18:28:05] <humdinger> That was some kind of cammand, I guess.[18:28:17] <humdinger> command rather[18:28:39] <kurain__> haha , it should be[18:28:49] *** iIngenu has quit IRC[18:29:34] <phoudoin> the "@" means that phoudoin have op rights, precisely :-)[18:29:54] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[18:30:20] <phoudoin> Not aht I know how to do operator stuffs without googling it before, but hey, it's ChannelServ decision, not mine![18:30:50] <kurain__> you are a admin of haiku channel, may that is the reason[18:31:47] <phoudoin> I should go. Bye everyone. Have a nice upgrade kurain__ ![18:31:51] *** Sir_Konrad has joined #haiku[18:31:59] <humdinger> cu phoudoin[18:32:01] <kurain__> well, it is time to sleep, bye humdinger, @phoudoin[18:32:11] <humdinger> nighty night kurain__[18:32:25] *** phoudoin has left #haiku[18:34:13] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[18:35:06] *** saivert has joined #haiku[18:40:11] *** srbaker has joined #haiku[18:43:17] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:44:38] *** Sir_Konrad has quit IRC[18:48:45] *** kurain__ has quit IRC[18:51:54] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:52:55] <CIA-37> axeld * r37604 /haiku/trunk/ (33 files in 15 dirs): (log message trimmed)[18:52:55] <CIA-37> Work in progress commit by Atis Elsts (I'm posting his ChangeLog comments[18:52:55] <CIA-37> directly here), I made only a few style changes:[18:52:55] <CIA-37> * introduced 'has_broadcast_address' field in[18:52:55] <CIA-37> struct net_address_module_info[18:53:02] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:54:37] *** dru345 has joined #haiku[18:57:10] <dru345> hi o/[18:57:50] *** Ingenu_ has joined #haiku[18:58:33] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[18:58:33] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[18:59:12] <Xeon3D> hey dru345[18:59:23] <dru345> heya[19:00:21] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:01:19] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[19:01:28] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[19:10:33] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[19:11:12] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[19:13:53] *** Sir_Konrad has joined #haiku[19:14:06] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:30:00] <CIA-37> pulkomandy * r37605 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/locale/TimeFormatSettingsView.cpp: * Actually set the 12/24hr clock selector depending on the date format when selecting a country.[19:32:19] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:37:42] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[19:48:11] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:49:34] *** wesbluemarine has joined #haiku[19:49:41] <wesbluemarine> dru345 :D[19:49:59] <dru345> hi wesbluemarine[19:50:08] <wesbluemarine> ehehe[19:50:09] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:50:48] <wesbluemarine> i waaaant haiku on my eeeeboooox[19:50:53] *** ambroff has joined #haiku[19:53:11] <wesbluemarine> who has an eeekeyboard[19:53:13] <wesbluemarine> ?[19:53:17] *** marc_smith has joined #haiku[20:01:52] *** The_Ringmaster has joined #haiku[20:04:21] * ali3n0 is installing r1a2 on an eeepc 701[20:06:42] *** marc_smith has quit IRC[20:06:45] <ali3n0> wesbluemarine, I've got a eeebox, but don't know what's an eeekeyboard[20:07:43] *** acous has joined #haiku[20:12:42] * ali3n0 got it running![20:13:57] <ali3n0> and it's bloody fast even on a crappy eeepc![20:19:19] <Hodapp> yeah[20:19:23] <Hodapp> that's what I first ran it on[20:19:41] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[20:19:43] <CIA-37> zooey * r37606 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/ (641 files in 118 dirs):[20:19:43] <CIA-37> * merged all changes from trunk[20:19:43] <CIA-37> * adjusted to ICU no longer being part of the repo[20:24:26] *** glow has quit IRC[20:26:48] *** Duggan has quit IRC[20:27:53] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[20:28:00] <wesbluemarine> ali3n0[20:28:29] <philcostin> does anyone know how I can enable the freetype bytecode interpreter in the source code?[20:30:30] *** Sloar has joined #haiku[20:31:27] <cpr420> I think the interpreter is already enabled, it's the hinter that's still patent encumbered[20:31:47] <philcostin> ah -[20:31:53] <philcostin> any idea how to enable that? :P[20:32:04] <philcostin> is it still ftoption.h?[20:32:06] <philcostin> (somewhere)[20:32:24] <philcostin> oh wait..[20:32:26] <mmadia> one of the configure options these days --include-patented-code or something.[20:32:27] <philcostin> I think I've found it[20:32:29] <philcostin> ah[20:32:32] * cpr420 doesn't know offhand[20:32:37] <philcostin> thanks mmadia, I'll try it[20:33:02] *** jrepan has joined #haiku[20:33:09] <mmadia> if you want to enable it on the fly, jam -q -sHAIKU_INCLUDE_PATENTED_CODE=1 ....[20:34:03] <philcostin> thanks mmadia. just recompiling now. I'm making a minimal CD (240MB) to use WebPositive as a stats display in a call centre :P[20:34:32] <mmadia> what are you going to do about the Trademarks?[20:35:06] <philcostin> I'm planning on not making any changes. It will be Haiku. that said, if I need to remove the trademarks, I can do it.[20:35:31] <philcostin> if I compile it myself, does it count has needing the trademarks removed (since it's not distributed by Haiku Inc) ?[20:36:06] <philcostin> (I'm not planning to re-distribute it, just to use it as-is...)[20:36:27] <mmadia> as in personal use?[20:36:40] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[20:36:52] <philcostin> as in: compiling from the SVN, to run on 2 or 3 PCs as stats displays[20:37:04] <philcostin> without any changes (other than enabling hinting)[20:37:54] *** The_Ringmaster has quit IRC[20:38:37] <mmadia> to split hairs, removing items from the build is changing it. but since you're not distributing it ... i don't think it's an issue.[20:39:15] *** leafther has joined #haiku[20:39:39] <philcostin> I wouldn't say I'm creating a distribution - just compiling it myself to use on a couple of PCs. I don't really want to claim it's anything other than Haiku - and at the same time, it is a vanilla build with no changes[20:39:44] <leafther> how i can get haiku alpha 2 to work with paralels desktop 4[20:39:52] <leafther> i hate vmware][20:40:11] <leafther> btw are they leaf or fethers[20:40:14] <mmadia> yeah, nevermind -- personal use need not apply.[20:40:28] <philcostin> thanks for clarifying though, mmadia.[20:40:41] <PulkoMandy> leafs :)[20:40:56] <philcostin> I'm working on a project of my own (non haiku related) and in the end, I went for a modified X11 license[20:41:13] <philcostin> in my case, I don't mind if someone takes it and denies I created it[20:41:26] <philcostin> but I certainly wouldn't want that for a project like Haiku[20:41:35] <philcostin> MIT works great :)[20:42:23] <mmadia> well, the source license is a something completely different than the TM's.[20:42:58] <philcostin> agreed and understood[20:43:19] <leafther> what about parallels[20:43:37] <leafther> cat atention > /home/leafther[20:43:37] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/search/node/parallels[20:43:43] <leafther> mhmm[20:43:58] <leafther> wow i didnt seen the search box[20:44:22] <leafther> FAIL[20:44:30] <leafther> haiku = 300 MB[20:44:46] <leafther> hd = 120 MB[20:44:54] <leafther> haiku > d[20:45:03] <leafther> Haiku > Hd[20:45:12] <leafther> thats is wrong[20:46:02] <leafther> I need atention[20:46:30] <philcostin> run it from CD[20:46:35] <philcostin> create a partition on the HD[20:46:39] <philcostin> for files[20:47:01] *** Xeon3D has left #haiku[20:47:12] *** Xeon3D has joined #haiku[20:47:20] <leafther> i downloaded the anyboot image maybe is that[20:48:13] <leafther> maybe if i enable passtrough[20:48:16] *** glow has joined #haiku[20:48:20] <philcostin> the font hinting patents have probably expired by now. safety first, I guess.[20:48:25] <leafther> KELP[20:48:29] <leafther> i mean[20:48:31] <leafther> HELP[20:48:34] <leafther> lol[20:48:51] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[20:51:34] <leafther> HELP[20:51:35] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[20:51:38] <leafther> HELP[20:51:40] <leafther> HELP[20:51:41] <leafther> HELP[20:51:42] <leafther> HELP[20:51:44] <leafther> HELP[20:51:44] <leafther> HELP[20:51:45] <leafther> HELP[20:51:45] <leafther> HELP[20:51:45] <leafther> HELP[20:51:46] <leafther> HELP[20:51:46] <leafther> HELP[20:51:47] <leafther> HELP[20:51:47] <leafther> HELP[20:51:47] <leafther> HELP[20:51:48] <mmadia> /cs op #haiku mmadia[20:51:48] <leafther> HELP[20:51:48] <leafther> HELP[20:51:49] <leafther> HELP[20:51:49] <leafther> HELP[20:51:50] <leafther> HELP[20:51:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmadia[20:51:55] <leafther> noooooo[20:52:00] *** mmadia sets mode: +b leafther!*@*[20:52:04] <mmadia> goodbye.[20:52:06] <dru345> philcostin - they have expired. http://freetype.sourceforge.net/patents.html[20:52:08] *** leafther was kicked by mmadia (Ouch!)[20:52:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o mmadia[20:52:37] *** Jessica_lily is now known as xray7224[20:52:38] *** xray7224 has joined #haiku[20:52:44] *** new_haiku_user has joined #haiku[20:52:49] <new_haiku_user> hi[20:53:01] <new_haiku_user> sorry for the 10 help lines[20:53:01] <mmadia> please be good, or i'll ban your IP address.[20:53:07] <new_haiku_user> im really sorry[20:53:27] <dru345> what help do you need, new_haiku_user?[20:53:27] <new_haiku_user> could you forgive me[20:53:53] <mmadia> /cs op #haiku mmadia[20:54:03] <mmadia> damm space.[20:54:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmadia[20:54:20] *** mmadia sets mode: -b leafther!*@*[20:54:25] <new_haiku_user> i need helo[20:54:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o mmadia[20:54:41] <new_haiku_user> i need help with booting haikus using paralels[20:54:50] <new_haiku_user> i cant boot it[20:54:53] <dru345> don't use parallels[20:55:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[20:55:01] <dru345> try virtualbox (free) or vmware[20:55:05] <new_haiku_user> its gets stuck on the haiku logo[20:55:14] <new_haiku_user> i paid for parallels[20:55:14] <dru345> yes this is a known issue.[20:55:25] <dru345> try virtualbox (it's free)[20:55:48] <new_haiku_user> i want 1024 mb of RAM[20:55:48] <Anarchos> new_haiku_user it boots fine natively if your pc is a bit old (i586 works perfectly here )[20:56:15] <dru345> new_haiku_user you can set it for 1024MB or more in virtualbox[20:56:25] <new_haiku_user> and virtualbox doesnt allow memory swap[20:56:32] <dru345> http://www.virtualbox.org/[20:56:51] <dru345> hmm i've never heard that[20:56:51] <new_haiku_user> my pc is a i686 thats no problem[20:57:17] <new_haiku_user> i686 processor[20:57:18] <philcostin> just booted Haiku in VMware - 1 second after you see the hand cursor and the blue background, the whole screen goes white and you can draw the blue background into the white-ness by moving the cursor around[20:57:30] <philcostin> anyone else getting that?[20:57:45] <PulkoMandy> that's a kernel panic or app-server crash[20:57:52] <dru345> that sounds like gdb[20:57:53] <PulkoMandy> no text above the white background ?[20:57:55] <philcostin> that's on the latest svn[20:57:56] <philcostin> no text[20:58:24] <new_haiku_user> does the lastest svn revision work with parallels[20:58:27] <dru345> i'm guessing tracker (or something) is crashing and loading gdb[20:58:30] <philcostin> completely white screen which you can disturb by moving the mouse[20:58:37] <new_haiku_user> virtualbox sucks[20:58:57] <cpr420> your attitude sucks[20:59:02] <philcostin> I'll boot with debugging enabled[20:59:06] <new_haiku_user> as Haiku[20:59:09] <dru345> if you try virtualbox (you only need to choose "Other" and pick "Intel Pro 1000 Desktop" for network card.[20:59:37] <PulkoMandy> new_haiku_user: it's not our fault. We have near 100% compatibility on real hardware[20:59:41] <PulkoMandy> go fix parrallels instead[20:59:57] <dru345> parallels, which i have too, is crap[20:59:58] <new_haiku_user> i have 1 GB ram[21:00:09] <dru345> wait. you only have 1GB ram?[21:00:13] <new_haiku_user> yes[21:00:16] *** Sloar has left #haiku[21:00:20] <dru345> what is your hardware?[21:00:34] <new_haiku_user> Hp pavilion dv6605us[21:00:40] <new_haiku_user> i need swaping[21:00:49] <dru345> so you're running a hackintosh?[21:01:01] <new_haiku_user> i bought a usb just use it for pagefile[21:01:02] <new_haiku_user> no[21:01:07] <new_haiku_user> windows 7 x64[21:01:24] <The123king> why would you use parralels on Windows?[21:01:32] <new_haiku_user> is faster[21:01:40] <dru345> I didn't realize they released to other OSs.[21:01:50] <new_haiku_user> yeah they did[21:02:06] <The123king> VBox is nearly native speed[21:02:10] <philcostin> PulkoMandy: hmm, it gets past the debugger, then goes to show the desktop, and then it crashes[21:02:16] <dru345> I'm on a Mac with Parallels 5 so you probably have Parallels 4. I can't offer specific help.[21:02:40] <new_haiku_user> ill upgrade to 5[21:02:42] <new_haiku_user> but[21:02:46] <new_haiku_user> i need help[21:02:59] <dru345> well i'm at their website and it doesn't look like there is parallels 5 for windows/linux yet[21:03:01] <The123king> new_haiku_user: Just use VBox, it's better, more compatible with Haiku, faster, free...[21:03:12] *** glow has quit IRC[21:03:16] <new_haiku_user> and doesnt support swapping[21:03:34] <new_haiku_user> i cant use up to 768 mb[21:03:35] <PulkoMandy> philcostin: crashes how ? can you submit a backtrace or anything helpful ?[21:03:41] <philcostin> I'll try.[21:03:47] <philcostin> I'll log the serial output[21:03:53] <new_haiku_user> mhhm but maybe haiku doesnt need that ram ..[21:04:01] <dru345> new_haiku_user you don't really need more than 128MB for Haiku even running apps[21:04:07] <new_haiku_user> what the most intensive app for haiku[21:04:31] <dru345> Haiku boots using about 90MB RAM[21:04:33] <The123king> new_haiku_user: Honestly, there isn't many intensive apps[21:04:38] <new_haiku_user> ok[21:04:52] <The123king> KOffice might be up there, but that's because it has Qt to deal with[21:05:09] <dru345> don't even try KOffice on Haiku :P[21:05:19] <new_haiku_user> i will uninstall my cracked (oops i mean paid ) parallels desktop[21:05:21] <The123king> i run Haiku on real hardware with 2GB RAM. It rarely chews up more than 256mb[21:05:24] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[21:05:38] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[21:05:43] <dru345> hi Ziusudra, Duggan[21:05:48] <Duggan> hi guys[21:05:55] <The123king> well if it's cracked, just get rid of it. VBox is better[21:06:02] <Duggan> I think I've had it with fbsd[21:06:04] <new_haiku_user> ok[21:06:06] <The123king> and it's free and open-source :P[21:06:10] <new_haiku_user> ok[21:06:11] <philcostin> Duggan: how come?[21:06:15] *** new_haiku_user has quit IRC[21:06:26] <Duggan> well...[21:06:36] * dru345 doesn't line new_haiku_user's attitude :/[21:06:41] <dru345> like*[21:06:50] <Duggan> 1: I'm new to it and I never was a linux freak either, so lets get that out of the way up front...[21:07:33] <Duggan> 2: trying to build x and theres a million dependencies that sysinstall didn't catch that I had to get manually[21:07:37] <philcostin> no assumptions were made ;-)[21:08:25] <Duggan> 3: now I'm getting an error when building avant-window-manager something to the effect that pythonpython2.6 isn't in the system path...[21:08:32] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[21:08:40] <Duggan> and there's 0 on the internet about anything called "pythonpython2.6"[21:08:52] <philcostin> hmmm[21:09:05] <philcostin> I quite like FreeBSD but probably would keep it on the server[21:09:12] <philcostin> ports are good[21:09:17] <philcostin> X should come with it[21:09:37] <Duggan> btw, I started trying to build x yesterday evening... should it ever really take this long just to get some graphics on the screen?...[21:09:57] <philcostin> Duggan: probably, yes. I attempted building X in Slackware and that was hard enough[21:10:05] <PulkoMandy> apparently pc-usb comes installed with kde and all[21:10:12] <PulkoMandy> may be better to start with tha[21:10:13] <PulkoMandy> t[21:10:16] <philcostin> I tried out PC-BSD yesterday[21:10:16] <Duggan> well, I got the 8.0 iso and installed it, set up the network and all...[21:10:17] <philcostin> it's great[21:10:25] <philcostin> it even comes with flash[21:10:28] <philcostin> out of the box[21:10:29] <Duggan> gotta run for a bit, I'll be back in about 30m or so[21:10:30] <philcostin> even the x64[21:11:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_screen[21:12:37] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[21:15:54] *** ali3n0 has quit IRC[21:15:55] *** toni__ has joined #haiku[21:18:00] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[21:18:04] *** The123king has quit IRC[21:18:27] *** veve-mao has joined #haiku[21:18:57] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[21:19:23] *** toni_ has quit IRC[21:19:33] *** The123king has joined #haiku[21:20:38] <philcostin> module: Search for network/protocols/ipv6/v1 failed.[21:20:43] <philcostin> vm_soft_fault: va 0x1020000 not covered by area in address space[21:20:49] <philcostin> vm_page_fault: vm_soft_fault returned error 'Bad address' on fault at 0x1020304, ip 0x1020304, write 0, user 1, thread 0x50[21:20:55] *** rkbm has quit IRC[21:20:57] <philcostin> hmmm[21:21:05] <PulkoMandy> ipv6 ?[21:21:08] <philcostin> mmhm![21:21:11] <philcostin> seems so[21:21:12] <PulkoMandy> that's quite a new feature[21:21:15] <philcostin> might not be but looks like it[21:21:23] <PulkoMandy> you should try either a newer or an older build[21:21:27] <philcostin> I'll try reverting to a build before the ping6 patch[21:22:58] <philcostin> could be 37604.. I'll see what happens[21:23:10] <philcostin> (with 37603)[21:23:14] <philcostin> r37604[21:24:38] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[21:31:31] <saivert> New project http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/saivert/s1410_a.jpg specs: Celeron 1.8GHz single core, 512MB RAM, 4200RPM 30GB HDD Haiku will be installed next[21:37:59] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[21:48:34] <Duggan> ok, where was I...[21:48:42] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:48:58] <dru345> Duggan, you were porting Abiword ;)[21:49:14] <Duggan> dru345 no actually :P[21:49:37] <dru345> you were talking about BSD[21:49:51] <Duggan> philcostin is there a ports utility? I've just been using sysinstall...[21:50:56] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:51:04] <The123king> Haiku has KDL'd twice today :([21:51:13] <dru345> O.o[21:51:16] <dru345> hi OmniMancer[21:51:17] <Duggan> its been KDLing on me a ton since last night[21:51:30] <dru345> Duggan you had that awful disk issue though[21:51:50] <Duggan> I ran a checkfs and got over 230,000 freed nodes or whatever[21:52:11] <Duggan> dru345 it was KDLing on me a little while ago again and I ran checkfs and it came back with 0[21:52:18] <dru345> ok[21:52:59] <Duggan> so I opened up the latest build I made and installed it over the existing one, hope whatever it was is fixed...[21:53:19] <dru345> i'm not sure i'd trust any volume with so many errors and maybe scrap it.[21:53:30] <mmadia> actual KDL or app_server gdb?[21:54:00] *** Duggan2 has joined #haiku[21:54:18] *** Duggan has quit IRC[21:54:20] <Duggan2> nevermind, it just KDLed on me again[21:56:34] <Duggan2> this thing working? :P[21:56:40] <philcostin> Duggan2: hi[21:56:47] <Duggan2> hey hey[21:56:52] <philcostin> Duggan2: a ports utility for Haiku or FreeBSD?[21:56:57] <Duggan2> fbsd[21:57:02] <philcostin> normally you can install ports at BSD install time[21:57:06] <philcostin> it's an option[21:57:16] <philcostin> then it leaves a skeleton of Makefile files in /usr/ports[21:57:24] <Duggan2> thats why I've been using sysinstall... just didn't know if there was a seperate utility[21:57:24] <philcostin> just change into the directory of the program you want[21:57:27] <philcostin> and run make install clean[21:57:38] <mmadia> or install `portinstall` :)[21:57:39] <philcostin> there are probably many ways[21:57:43] <Duggan2> philcostin been trying that for x, thus my problems :/[21:57:54] <Duggan2> mmadia ah[21:57:55] <philcostin> X is included[21:58:01] <Duggan2> x wasn't prebuilt[21:58:06] <philcostin> hmm[21:58:08] <philcostin> sure?[21:58:09] <philcostin> :P[21:58:17] <Duggan2> startx gave me an error, said it wasn't found[21:58:30] <Duggan2> so I *assume* that means it wasn't prebuilt[21:58:32] <philcostin> sounds hosed[21:58:35] <philcostin> reinstall?[21:58:44] <Duggan2> trying to build it :/[21:58:54] <philcostin> it's quite easy to get into a mess, I think[21:59:05] <philcostin> that's one reason I'm using slackware here and not fbsd yet[21:59:25] <Duggan2> mmadia you have any idea why (when building avant-window-navigator as a dependency) it would give me some error about pythonpython2.6 not being in the system path?[21:59:40] <philcostin> oh wait...[21:59:52] <philcostin> try export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local[21:59:57] <philcostin> ?[21:59:59] <mmadia> none. i only use the console in FreeBSD, as it's a dedicated build machine / remote storage[22:00:07] <Duggan2> ah ok[22:00:27] <Duggan2> philcostin I'll try that.... dunno if it'll work... (again, google comes up with zilch when searching for pythonpython2.6)[22:00:57] <philcostin> Duggan2: do you have a directory called /usr/ports/lang/python2.6 ?[22:01:03] <philcostin> or something like that[22:01:21] <Duggan2> I've got /usr/ports/lang/python[22:01:36] <philcostin> is there a python2.6 directory inside there?[22:01:48] <Duggan2> I think I remember seeing one but I'd have to check to be sure[22:01:50] <philcostin> (sorry haiku-folks, we should probably take this to #freebsd)[22:01:54] <philcostin> hmm[22:02:03] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:02:17] <Duggan2> pm me, philcostin... if we went to ##freebsd, we'd never get a word in edgewise[22:02:23] <philcostin> hmm true[22:02:23] *** dru345 is now known as awy345[22:02:39] <Duggan2> hey dru345, you misspelled "away" :P[22:02:48] <awy345> i know :P[22:02:52] <Duggan2> lol[22:02:53] *** awy345 is now known as away345[22:02:55] <philcostin> although, I'm not quite that experienced with freebsd although I don't try anything too exotic because I know it's going to break on me[22:02:56] <philcostin> :P[22:03:18] <away345> sick today. gonna lie down a bit.[22:03:31] <Duggan2> lol I just want to get to where I can *see* something... terminals never did much for me :/[22:03:37] *** adriano-src has joined #haiku[22:03:37] <Duggan2> hope you get to feeling better dru345[22:03:43] <philcostin> ##freebsd is pretty quiet at the moment[22:03:47] <away345> ty[22:03:48] <philcostin> see you there?[22:03:50] <Duggan2> thats a first...[22:03:51] <Duggan2> alrigth[22:03:53] <Duggan2> er alright[22:04:05] *** Duggan2 is now known as Duggan[22:04:11] *** jrepan has left #haiku[22:07:09] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:07:24] *** Duggan has quit IRC[22:07:30] *** HaikuUser is now known as Duggan[22:08:57] *** Duggan has quit IRC[22:10:56] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:10:57] *** HaikuUser is now known as Duggan[22:13:06] *** Duggan has quit IRC[22:15:42] <cpr420> nooooooooo[22:15:48] * cpr420 ran out of caffeine[22:17:24] *** impy has quit IRC[22:18:55] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[22:21:26] <philcostin> hmm, it wasn't the IPv6 stuff PulkoMandy[22:21:40] <philcostin> must have been something else. still trying older revisions[22:25:38] *** Duggan has quit IRC[22:26:01] *** impy has joined #haiku[22:26:54] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[22:30:02] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[22:30:27] *** The123king has quit IRC[22:31:21] <CIA-37> zooey * r37607 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/src/tests/system/libroot/posix/locale_test.cpp: * adjusted to changed results caused by upgrade to ICU-4.4.1[22:35:59] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[22:38:00] *** Duggan has quit IRC[22:38:08] *** RQ has quit IRC[22:38:17] *** Sir_Konrad has quit IRC[22:39:33] *** gordonjcp has joined #haiku[22:39:35] <gordonjcp> hello[22:41:17] *** Sir_Konrad has joined #haiku[22:42:24] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[22:43:04] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:48:03] *** desen has joined #haiku[22:53:11] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[22:56:05] *** Sir_Konrad has quit IRC[22:57:19] *** Sir_Konrad has joined #haiku[22:58:14] *** oZ] has quit IRC[23:05:17] *** philcostin has left #haiku[23:06:16] *** Duggan has quit IRC[23:09:24] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[23:12:15] *** adriano-src has quit IRC[23:21:54] *** desen has quit IRC[23:25:51] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[23:38:05] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[23:42:50] *** raichoo has quit IRC[23:42:54] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:46:39] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:46:45] *** HaikuUser is now known as Duggan[23:47:25] *** away345 is now known as dru345[23:47:29] <dru345> hi Duggan[23:48:03] <Duggan> hey dru345, wb[23:48:08] <dru345> ty[23:48:13] <Duggan> np[23:48:17] <Duggan> feeling better?[23:48:25] <dru345> i'm feeling more robot... err... human[23:48:31] <dru345> ty[23:48:32] <Duggan> hehe[23:48:33] <Duggan> np[23:48:56] <dru345> you wouldn't happen to be versed in locklooper ?[23:48:58] *** Shisui has quit IRC[23:49:08] <Duggan> nope, sorry[23:49:19] <Duggan> what is that? a spinlock?[23:49:34] <dru345> search me :D[23:49:42] <Duggan> lol well thats what it sounds like[23:49:43] <dru345> I appears to be[23:49:49] <Duggan> what do you need help with?[23:50:02] <Duggan> wow... looks like axel got busy...[23:50:08] <dru345> I'm reading this big ugly comment in ... code ... and wondering if things have changed.[23:50:16] <Duggan> what file?[23:50:35] <dru345> src/kits/tracker/navigator.cpp[23:50:47] <dru345> SendNavigationMenu[23:51:56] <dru345> the comment suggests changes in locking bahavior of StandAloneTaskLoop:Run() and "subsequently called functions"[23:52:03] <dru345> behavior*[23:53:23] <Duggan> SendNavigationMessage you mean?[23:53:44] <dru345> yes, sorry. my printout text is tiny[23:54:03] <Duggan> hehe s'ok....[23:54:07] <Duggan> thats a funny way to do it....[23:54:15] <Duggan> unlock; condition; lock[23:54:23] <dru345> yeah O.o[23:54:25] <Duggan> I'd unlock and relock inside the condition myself....[23:54:41] <Duggan> unless thats necessary to reference nodeRef[23:54:55] <dru345> I don't know :/[23:55:17] <dru345> nodeRef is used earlier so I doubt it[23:55:29] <Duggan> true that[23:55:37] <dru345> it gets set earlier in the same code with no locking[23:56:08] <Duggan> well theoretically its already locked when the function starts... or so it would seem... because its locked when the function exits (at an initial glance)