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[00:05:34] <CIA-49> oruizdorantes * r37486 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/l2cap/ (7 files):
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[00:12:12] <l_n> bleh.
[00:12:18] <dru345> hi l_n
[00:12:26] <dru345> how's haiku gaming coming along?
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[00:13:15] <l_n> good.. doom works.. d2x is being a bitch about some typedefs.
[00:13:34] <l_n> getting ready to look at genecys and mana world (if neither has been done yet)
[00:14:11] <l_n> i think michael has done more than i have, though. (but i brought multiplayer doom, damnit! :P )
[00:14:32] <Disreali> l_n: I see you got a link to the haiku build of chocolate doom on their site
[00:14:35] <Disreali> nice
[00:14:51] <dru345> \o/
[00:15:46] <l_n> yeah.. it's a wiki :)
[00:16:01] <l_n> there's also a screenshot of a shotgun guy exploding.
[00:16:33] <l_n> Disreali: did you see the updated version?
[00:17:05] <Disreali> no. anything special in the update?
[00:17:26] <l_n> dunno.. i just d/l'ed the 1.4.0 update
[00:17:37] <l_n> have to check the svn logs
[00:17:46] <l_n> i think it's mostly opl emulation being finished
[00:18:14] <l_n> to make chocodoom *sound* like dos doom
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[00:26:31] <l_n> i seriously do not know how windows users can stand to *not* have multiple desktops... it has been a requirement for an OS for me for several years now...
[00:28:05] <PulkoMandy> there's a powertoy to add them to windows xp
[00:28:12] <l_n> yeah, but it sucks.
[00:28:29] <PulkoMandy> not everyone can do as good as haiku :)
[00:28:36] <PulkoMandy> anyway... 'night
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[00:33:32] <l_n> hrm. i need to make configure *think* that libpthreads exists...
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[00:33:38] <l_n> or circumvent it for haiku
[00:37:09] * Xeon3D is back :P
[00:37:24] <Xeon3D> I can do fine without virtual desktops.
[00:37:33] <l_n> can one of you help me with some autoconf crap?
[00:37:36] <Xeon3D> even now I have two set up on Gnome and I don't use the 2nd :P
[00:38:10] <l_n> i've not really worked with it and i need to know how to add a test for haiku to make it not test for libpthread
[00:38:13] <l_n> in configure.ac
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[00:39:29] <mmadia> what's that website that shows commit statistics ... oloho.net or something?
[00:40:24] <HaikuUser> ohloh.org maybe
[00:40:31] <l_n> ohloh.net
[00:40:39] <l_n> google++
[00:40:40] <l_n> :)
[00:40:44] <mmadia> thanks. :)
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[00:43:08] <Xeon3D> l_n: doesn't the configure script have a --don't-use-pthreads option? :X
[00:43:36] <gluon> I use 10 virtual desktops for ages
[00:43:43] <l_n> no... but i'm adding it
[00:43:43] <gluon> I can't live without them
[00:44:17] * Xeon3D already leaves windows open for no apparent reason on one desktop... imagine if I used any more.
[00:44:27] <gluon> hehe
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[00:45:18] <gluon> I use 10 workspaces with several apps running on each of them and autostarting as I login
[00:46:08] <gluon> in fact, I'm trying to achieve the same in haiku but it seems impossible, unless you hardcode it into the source code of each app :(
[00:46:37] * gluon would like a scriptable way to launch apps into different workspaces
[00:46:50] <dru345> there may be one
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[00:47:06] <mmadia> possibly 'hey'
[00:47:06] <dru345> maybe you can use 'hey' to do it
[00:47:12] <l_n> a tracker add-on would do it, no?
[00:47:14] <dru345> jinx :D
[00:47:32] <gluon> didn't know about 'hey' thanks
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[00:48:05] <l_n> damn missing libraries...
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[00:49:44] <l_n> does autoreconf just rebuild the configure script from configure.ac, or does it do other stuff as well?
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[00:54:00] <gluon> mmadia: what would be the property name for getting/setting the current workspace of a BWindow or BView?
[00:54:24] <mmadia> errr... dunno.
[00:54:43] <gluon> I've seen it somewhere... let me check my logs
[00:57:06] <l_n> INSTALLDIR=/foo/bar make install <--- installs to a directory that is !($prefix) with the prefix dir structure, right? (building a lib that i want to package up)
[00:57:46] <OmniMancer> gluon: mmadia isn't a programmer, he is an admin guy :P
[00:58:11] <OmniMancer> the window may exist in multiple workspaces I believe there is an int32 you can get which gives them
[00:58:16] <OmniMancer> as the bits
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[01:01:12] <gluon> OmniMancer: I'm an admin guy too (though I code a bit) hehe. Yeah, thanks for the tip... I'm now trying to find how to set that int var with 'hey'
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[01:02:05] <OmniMancer> ah
[01:02:12] <OmniMancer> that may be a different matter :P
[01:02:46] <gluon> maybe that's not possible after all
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[01:03:00] <gluon> only by changing the source code of each app
[01:03:20] <dru345> i find that hard to imagine
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[01:03:31] <gluon> but it would be useful to do it at runtime
[01:03:46] <gluon> with some kind of message
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[01:04:59] <gluon> uint32 workspaces = B_CURRENT_WORKSPACE here it is, the current workspace is used as default
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[01:06:40] <OmniMancer> yes
[01:07:02] <OmniMancer> what do you want to do?
[01:07:14] <l_n> grr
[01:07:36] <OmniMancer> it is probably possible, but I am not sure if you can simply set the whole uint32 telling it which workspaces its on
[01:07:44] <gluon> I'd like to run some script/binary on the terminal which changes uint32 workspaces variable for a RUNNING apps
[01:08:24] <OmniMancer> there must be a way to do it since workspaces can let you drag windows in realtime
[01:08:34] <OmniMancer> why do you want that btw?
[01:09:10] <l_n> could someone refresh my memory as how to use 'make install' to install something to ($dir)/($prefix) ?
[01:09:12] <gluon> because I like to have several apps running on different workspaces
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[01:09:34] <gluon> which are automatically started when I boot
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[01:10:42] <gluon> OmniMancer: your reasoning makes sense, there must be a way since we can drag them between workspaces
[01:11:38] <OmniMancer> l_n: if it was configured its --prefix=...
[01:11:50] <OmniMancer> ie the configure needs that param..
[01:12:58] <l_n> right.. but i seem to remember a way to make it install to $dir/$prefix
[01:13:17] <l_n> (for packaging of stuff that puts itself in /boot/common/*)
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[01:21:51] <OmniMancer> maybe DESTDIR?
[01:22:43] <l_n> ah
[01:24:13] <OmniMancer> I should use that to package llvm :P
[01:24:30] <OmniMancer> I currently install somewhere else :/ and have to fix the clang++ link
[01:24:53] <l_n> it worked.. but it has to be an absolute path
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[01:25:58] <OmniMancer> yes
[01:26:02] <OmniMancer> always must be :P
[01:26:14] <OmniMancer> I find it ironic
[01:26:26] <OmniMancer> that they invent something as powerful as relative paths
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[01:26:59] <OmniMancer> then go and for "security reasons" make it so you can't actually write a program that can run out of its current dir always no matter where you put it :/
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[01:27:28] <l_n> i remember the DOS days when you could put a program anywhere and run the thing
[01:29:07] <srbaker> l_n: same with OS X
[01:29:31] <l_n> os x uses fat pkgs though, iirc.. libs included.
[01:29:48] <srbaker> yeah, they do
[01:31:07] <srbaker> i think i want to port dpkg to haiku, so we can have aptitude
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[01:39:40] <Xeon3D> srbaker: I'd love for haiku to have dpkg or pacman ... but it seems that the directions are going elsewhere.
[01:39:56] <Xeon3D> There's a package management ideas page somewhere on the haiku wiki
[01:39:59] <srbaker> oh? i'm not familiar with the current directions
[01:40:08] <srbaker> i'd love to hear. (i used to be a dpkg hacker, so i'm familiar with it)
[01:40:26] <Xeon3D> http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/PackageManagerIdeas
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[01:42:23] <Xeon3D> hmmm that page has changed quite a bit since the last time I've seen it.
[01:42:27] <Xeon3D> *I saw it.
[01:43:07] <l_n> the mana world is built.. now to create an account via the website to test the game
[01:43:08] <l_n> :)
[01:43:22] <Xeon3D> :O
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[01:43:32] <l_n> Xeon3D: ?
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[01:43:47] <Xeon3D> you ported it quite fast :P
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[01:44:03] <l_n> just some makefile/configure.ac trickery :)
[01:44:15] <l_n> i had to lie about libpthread :P
[01:45:13] <l_n> it's downloading data updates
[01:45:13] <l_n> yay!
[01:45:46] <Xeon3D> =D
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[01:48:34] <Xeon3D> it's a pity that that game has a huge security flaw :P
[01:48:55] <Xeon3D> Do not use the same username and password on two different servers. The server admins can read all of them in clear text and nothing stops them from trying them on other servers.
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[01:51:23] <dru345> which game Xeon3D?
[01:51:37] <Xeon3D> that one l_n built...
[01:51:38] <Xeon3D> mana world
[01:51:45] <dru345> oh ok. not heard of it :)
[01:51:46] <Xeon3D> http://themanaworld.org/servers.php
[01:51:54] <Xeon3D> 2D zelda-like mmorpg
[01:52:40] <l_n> it works.
[01:55:38] <OmniMancer> hmmm
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[01:58:10] <l_n> i'll upload them to haikuware later after i go to the grocery store
[01:58:21] <l_n> (the guichan library and tmw)
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[02:15:54] <OmniMancer> hmm
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[02:32:02] <dru345> kdl :/
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[02:52:42] <l_n> tmw is being uploaded now.. when it's done, i'll upload the necessary guichan lib
[02:53:00] * l_n should've remembered to put the dependency in the description :-/
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[03:05:58] <l_n> done.. gcc4 tmw and guichan are now on haikuware
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[03:13:19] <Xeon3D> argh
[03:13:32] <Xeon3D> buffalo nas webinterface is the suckiest of the suckiest.
[03:15:45] <l_n> ?
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[03:24:06] <Xeon3D> it sucks...
[03:24:31] <Xeon3D> l_n: when accessing it remotely, it'll take 20 secs or so between changes on the web interface
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[03:33:42] <l_n> what is it?
[03:34:04] <l_n> oh.. network storage
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[03:40:29] <Xeon3D> yeah...
[03:40:58] <Xeon3D> and it's so nicely done, that you can copy stuff from a usb drive into it (without passing thru the network) but you can't do the opposite...
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[03:41:43] <l_n> on a more positive note, the mana world is now available for haiku... (i would submit patches if i could figure out how to make it pick up the library directories when configure is run...
[03:42:03] <l_n> it misses -lintl and -L/boot/common/lib -L/boot/system/lib
[03:42:26] <l_n> i've already made pthreads optional :)
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[03:44:04] <cpr420> sounds like you installed libraries and didn't put symlinks into the lib/gcc4 directory
[03:44:32] <l_n> cpr420: gcc4hybrid
[03:44:50] <cpr420> and compiling with gcc4?
[03:45:00] <mmadia> maybe --prefix=/boot/common ?
[03:45:06] <l_n> yes and yes
[03:45:42] <cpr420> those link directories should be set by the compiler/linker by default, you normally don't need to add /boot/common/lib
[03:46:11] <cpr420> must have an odd autoconf setup in it
[03:47:45] <l_n> actually, what happened was -lintl was put in its own variable
[03:48:24] <l_n> probably didn't need to add /boot/common/lib..
[03:48:34] <l_n> it was probably just the -lintl
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[03:59:24] <l_n> i'm trying it again after a make distclean
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[04:01:28] <CIA-49> scottmc * r37487 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages: Roll autoconf back to 2.65 until the AC_CHECK_SIZEOF regression is fixed, see HaikuPorts trac ticket 376 for more details.
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[04:40:36] <l_n> hrm.. it didn't add $LIBINTL to the $LIBS list
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[06:03:03] <jmayfield> hi
[06:03:13] <l_n> hello.
[06:05:30] <dru345> hi
[06:05:40] <l_n> this is irritating.
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[06:06:20] <mmadia> could someone check if this midi causes media_addon_server to peg the cpus? http://freemidi.org/download.html?id_cmp=1443&id=275&Close+Encounters+Of+The+Third+Kind&C+Movies
[06:06:34] <l_n> which rev?
[06:07:10] <mmadia> 37444.
[06:07:37] <l_n> ugh. popup-laden sites are evil.
[06:07:42] * l_n glares at mmadia.
[06:08:10] <mmadia> data for reproducible bugs are worth it :P
[06:08:22] <l_n> i'm at r37165
[06:08:37] <dru345> gimme a mine or two
[06:09:06] <mmadia> this one eventually pegs the cpu's too here: http://moviethemes.net/music/C/Close_Encounters_Of_The_Third_Kind.mid
[06:09:24] <l_n> mmadia: are you running a 2h build?
[06:09:28] <mmadia> *nod*
[06:09:41] <mmadia> the official release style. ;)
[06:10:06] <l_n> can you d/l guichan and the mana world and see if they run on a 2h?
[06:10:25] <l_n> i'm using 4h... last i heard, sdl_mixer requires a gcc4 media_server
[06:11:07] <mmadia> do they require anything else?
[06:11:25] <l_n> sdl sdl_mixer and sdl_net AFAIK are the only deps.
[06:11:27] <mmadia> aside from SDL game libs
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[06:12:35] <l_n> ping, xml2, curl, physfs, z, ssl, crypto, <system stuff>
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[06:12:41] <l_n> png*
[06:14:31] <mmadia> for guichan, it's better to not include "boot/" in the diretory archive.
[06:14:53] <l_n> i can re-u/l if necessary
[06:15:09] <mmadia> just a tip for next time.
[06:15:31] <dru345> i can't give you anything useful mmadia.
[06:16:39] <dru345> midi player loads which pegs the cpu but cpu calms down except i don't hear anything
[06:16:59] <mmadia> interesting. thanks dru345.
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[06:23:56] <mmadia> i can't get it to work, l_n. I downloaded : http://haikuware.com/directory/start-download/development/class-libraries/sdlgamelibraries-gcc4 and moved it's libs to lib/gcc4 , but tmw complains about libpng12.so.0 , which i don't have.
[06:24:22] <Duggan> hi dru345, mmadia, l_n, etc
[06:24:22] <l_n> at all?
[06:24:27] <l_n> Duggan: hello.
[06:24:31] <dru345> hello Duggan
[06:24:38] <mmadia> hi.
[06:24:50] <l_n> mmadia: hang on a sec.
[06:24:58] <l_n> /query me your e-mail
[06:24:59] <mmadia> i snagged it from my R1A1 partition, renamed it, but no-go.
[06:25:18] <l_n> i'll send you my gcc4 libpng12.so.0
[06:26:43] <l_n> libpng12.so.0 -> libpng12.so.0.29.0 on my system
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[06:28:31] <CIA-49> siarzhuk * r910 /haikuports/trunk/dev-util/bakefile/bakefile.OptionalPackageDescription: remove not required file.
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[06:31:28] <Ziusudra> ps claims to take a [team] arg but does nothing when given a team id?
[06:32:03] <Ziusudra> ah, has to be the team name
[06:42:46] <CIA-49> siarzhuk * r911 /haikuports/trunk/dev-util/bakefile/bakefile-0.2.8.bep: fixed Homepage URL. Pointed by Chris Roberts.
[06:46:35] <Duggan> hey Ziusudra
[06:46:51] <Ziusudra> hi Duggan
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[06:48:49] <dru345> when do i get to test your code Duggan? :D
[06:49:16] <DraX> code!
[06:49:19] * DraX eats code
[06:49:42] * dru345 offers DraX the tracker code
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[06:50:18] <DraX> mmm delicous
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[06:55:23] <Duggan> dru345 not sure yet
[06:55:30] <dru345> ok
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[06:55:47] <Duggan> because I'm having to rewrite this rather sizable chunk of code, its going to take a bit
[06:56:11] <Duggan> but its actually going along somewhat more quickly than expected... but theres still alot more to be done before its testable really
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[07:32:02] <Duggan> well, I got the z-order to work lol
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[07:39:48] <dru345> woo
[07:39:52] <dru345> \o/
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[07:54:50] <Duggan> almost back to where I was...
[08:03:47] <Duggan> back where I was... and better than expected lol
[08:04:03] <dru345> woo hoo :p
[08:04:17] <Duggan> its pretty cool...
[08:08:40] <Duggan> dru345 pm
[08:08:56] <dru345> ok :P
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[08:52:53] <Duggan> hey Sikosis
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[08:53:12] <away345> bye o/
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[09:05:59] <Sikosis> hey Duggan ... sorry gotta fly ...
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[10:18:38] <CIA-49> jackburton * r37488 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/SlowContextPopup.cpp: Use BMenu::RemoveItems() instead of iterating.
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[11:39:02] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37489 /haiku/trunk/src/data/keymaps/ (3 files):
[11:39:02] <CIA-49> * Patch by starseed : add some useful charactersto the french azerty keymap. Thanks !
[11:39:02] <CIA-49> * Rename the B?\195?\131?\194?\169po keymap again to see if Imanage to cheat svn...
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[12:41:47] <brobostigon> morning all.
[12:42:38] <marc_smith> ahello brobostigon
[12:43:00] <brobostigon> morning marc_smith
[12:45:04] <marc_smith> how's your Haiku installation? ;)
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[12:45:51] <brobostigon> marc_smith: the ata stack fail, i have to use the old ide, otherwise it works fine on my eeepc of sdhc.
[12:46:57] <marc_smith> wow, netbook setup, nice
[12:47:05] <marc_smith> I used to run haiku on my Lenovo S10
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[12:47:15] <marc_smith> worked nice, but I finally got rid of this netbook
[12:47:35] <marc_smith> of crouse BCM WiFi card was not supported
[12:48:07] <brobostigon> hmm, maybe a port of the freebsd driver needed?
[12:48:16] <marc_smith> probobly
[12:48:32] <marc_smith> but FBSD driver for that specific card is quite limited
[12:48:42] <marc_smith> back then it didn't detect that card
[12:48:51] <brobostigon> afterall we have a freebsd compatibilty layer for a reason.
[12:48:53] <marc_smith> which was - IIRC - 4312
[12:49:05] <brobostigon> ok.
[12:49:16] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37490 /haiku/trunk/ (build/jam/HaikuImage src/kits/locale/LocaleRoster.cpp): Make locale kit Hybrid build aware, so that the catalog add-ons will be available for gcc4 applications.
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[13:44:46] <Barrett> any link to download irrlicht for Haiku?
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[14:20:14] <CIA-49> jackburton * r37491 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/AboutBox.cpp: Removed unused file
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[14:37:14] <CIA-49> aldeck * r37492 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/ (32 files): (log message trimmed)
[14:37:14] <CIA-49> * Applied libtracker localization patch from T.Murai (a.k.a mt) with some modifications (see below).
[14:37:14] <CIA-49> * Functional modifications:
[14:37:14] <CIA-49> Reworked InfoWindow file size localization, the patch removed number formating (size in bytes) and was too complicated to my taste.
[14:37:14] <CIA-49> Replaced the uses of sprintf with the safer snprintf.
[14:37:14] <CIA-49> Changed signature to x-vnd.Haiku-libtracker instead of x-vnd.Haiku-libTracker (to be consistent with the binary name)
[14:37:15] <CIA-49> * Style modifications:
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[14:46:30] <spvensko> hi, when attempting to load the haikuOS liveCD from an external DVD-ROM, the menu loads and then the screen shows the blue background with the pointing finger and then the DVD-ROM spins down and the computer halts - did i just get a bad copy or am I missing something? I'm pretty sure the menu asking whether i'd like to explore or install should opop up but it isn't, thanks
[14:49:19] <PulkoMandy> which version of haiku ?
[14:50:02] <spvensko> alpha 1 verison 2
[14:50:14] <spvensko> downloaded from the new york server, which hasn't let me down yet
[14:51:08] <PulkoMandy> you can check the md5 to make sure it isn't corrupted
[14:52:28] <spvensko> ah, good idea, i'll do that, thanks!
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[15:13:06] <spvensko> PulkoMandy: i haven't checked the md5 but i already had another instance downloading
[15:13:35] <spvensko> i burned that and tried it and it's having the same affect, i think it may be the USB cable i'm using to connect the DVD-ROM, might not be providing enough juice
[15:14:27] <CIA-49> jackburton * r37493 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/Tracker.cpp: Also remove inclusion of AboutBox.cpp to fix the build. Sorry
[15:14:54] <marc_smith> try to launch it without ACPI, spvensko
[15:17:00] <tqh> acpi is only enabled in alpha 2
[15:17:09] <CIA-49> aldeck * r37494 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/PoseView.cpp: * More PoseView localization by T.Murai (a.k.a mt). Thanks a lot. (be careful with the 80 chars indenting though ;-)
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[15:31:08] <CIA-49> aldeck * r37495 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/PoseView.cpp: * Minor style fixes, spaces vs tabs.
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[15:48:47] <spvensko> sorry i meant alpha 2 version 1
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[15:49:01] <spvensko> ill try running without acpi
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[15:55:46] <augdawg> hey guys when will the final haiku r1 release be released to the public?
[15:57:11] <PulkoMandy> when it's ready
[15:57:26] <mmadia> there's still a good deal to do. http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/FutureHaikuFeatures
[15:57:28] <PulkoMandy> we plan to have at least one more alpha release
[15:58:07] <Duggan> and thats not even counting the betas...
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[15:59:12] <Duggan> but considering that I'm using it right now natively and have been using it solely for the past.... month or so...
[15:59:15] <Duggan> its not doing too badly :)
[15:59:50] <mmadia> hopefully the betas will roll out quicker than the alphas, as everything will be feature complete and already fairly stable.
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[16:04:31] <augdawg> okay thanks
[16:04:52] <augdawg> im eagerly waiting for the final one
[16:07:43] <mmadia> i once heard a saying, "victory is already inside of you. bring it out and make it a reality."
[16:08:03] <mmadia> in ways, that applies to R1 :)
[16:08:21] <OmniMancer> r1 is always inside mmadia?
[16:08:23] <OmniMancer> :P
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[16:08:41] <mmadia> :P
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[16:11:18] <PulkoMandy> what's the process to upload a new optional package to haiku-files ?
[16:12:13] <mmadia> lemme add your pubkey and stuff.
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[16:22:45] <lorglas> hi
[16:25:08] <OmniMancer> hi lorglas
[16:25:10] <Lelldorin1> hi
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[16:57:11] <Xeon3D> hello all :D
[17:01:35] <lorglas> hi, which in the bebook must i use for get the fileattributes drwx?
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[17:27:36] <Duggan> hey Xeon3D, humdinger, The123king, yourpalal, etc
[17:27:45] <Xeon3D> yo
[17:28:00] <humdinger> hi everybody
[17:28:09] <yourpalal> hello
[17:28:17] <Duggan> hows things going for everybody?
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[17:28:44] <humdinger> got a headache, but it's getting better...
[17:28:55] <Duggan> that sucks, glad its going away at least
[17:29:33] <humdinger> It was very hot here for the last days/week. So thunderstorms are brewing...
[17:29:37] <Duggan> I'm just sitting here trying to figure out gdb...
[17:29:49] <Duggan> ah... whereabouts?
[17:30:00] <humdinger> South of Germany.
[17:30:17] <humdinger> but it's hot pretty much all around here...
[17:30:19] <Duggan> ah ok, well hope the storms don't get too bad :)
[17:30:37] <Duggan> yep, it gets pretty bad here too
[17:30:43] <humdinger> I think they already devasted the north a bit...
[17:30:59] <Duggan> that stinks :/
[17:31:24] <humdinger> Though "devastated" is of course a word used in the media for every normal storm...
[17:31:40] <Duggan> hah not around here
[17:31:42] <humdinger> Everything is always a catastrophy.
[17:32:06] <humdinger> Real catastrophies are pushed to the background.
[17:32:14] <Duggan> :/
[17:32:26] <Duggan> that does happen alot
[17:32:56] <humdinger> so, you're experienceing gdb-armageddon? :)
[17:33:02] <Duggan> unfortunately :/
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[17:33:23] <Duggan> I've got a program that crashes with no error and all the printfs I put in it display as expected, I have no clue where the error is
[17:33:30] <humdinger> I guess you'd find more answers on #haiku-dev...
[17:33:30] <CIA-49> mmu_man * r37496 /haiku/trunk/src/data/keymaps/ (2 files): This should fix the UTF-8 name for the B?\195?\169po keymap.
[17:33:42] <Duggan> but when I run it in gdb it stops everytime I click on the menu, so I get nowhere :/
[17:34:14] <yourpalal> when it stops, just type continue
[17:34:23] <Duggan> I was going to try to figure it out before I formally asked
[17:34:26] <Duggan> yourpalal that doesn't work
[17:34:39] <The123king> oh hey
[17:34:40] <Duggan> if I type continue, I go back to click on the menu again and it just stops...
[17:34:42] <Duggan> hey The123king
[17:34:44] <The123king> sorry, was busy FBing
[17:34:48] <The123king> <3 Haiku
[17:34:54] <yourpalal> ah, sorry
[17:34:56] <Duggan> so then I have to type continue again, then click on the menu...... etc
[17:35:33] <Duggan> thanks though
[17:35:49] <yourpalal> hmm, I'm really not very good with gdb, so that is my best effort :P
[17:36:00] <Duggan> haha well it's appreciated... thank you
[17:36:11] <Duggan> lemme try in dev real quick and see if I get any other news
[17:38:50] <Duggan> nope, I got nothing :/
[17:38:57] <Duggan> oh well
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[17:41:23] <brechtm> Duggan: I'm not hero with gdb either, but the fact that it stops when you click the menu is probably an indication of a bug
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[17:43:56] <Duggan> brechtm hrm... I don't know how, all I'm doing is creating a window and displaying it... and when I run the program outside gdb it gets past that point no problem
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[17:45:49] <lorglas> hi who can help me
[17:46:01] <spvensko> ask your question, don't ask to ask :)
[17:46:16] <lorglas> i want to get the permissions from a file like 777
[17:46:37]
[17:47:05] <Duggan> are those the permissions the file has?
[17:47:31] <Duggan> to view or change permissions, right click a file then click "get info"
[17:47:52] <Duggan> at the bottom it says "permissions" click on that and it will expand the window to display the permissions and allow them to be changed
[17:48:13] <lorglas> yes i did it and click on all checkboxes, then i think is has 777
[17:48:16] <lorglas> or not
[17:48:37] <brechtm> Oct 777 == Dec 511
[17:48:44] <Duggan> I guess try using chmod in a terminal, but thats about all the help I can give you
[17:48:53] <Duggan> or that lol
[17:48:56] <Duggan> thanks brechtm
[17:49:04] <lorglas> thanks brechtm
[17:49:08] <Duggan> gotta run... l8r all
[17:49:19] <lorglas> thats i dont know
[17:49:20] <Duggan> btw brechtm you might be right about the bug, but I'll have to look into it later, thanks
[17:49:38] <brechtm> Duggan: do a "bt" once gbd stops
[17:50:50] <brechtm> I only thought of that because of this joke: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-programmer-joke
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[17:57:58] <humdinger> still reading brechtm's link.
[17:58:01] <humdinger> "When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb." :)
[17:59:16] <phoudoin> LOL
[18:00:35] <brechtm> humdinger: watch out, because once you start reading that page...
[18:02:52] <humdinger> Ah. I recently gor that one when randomly reading xkcd: http://xkcd.com/221/
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[18:17:35] <abuseyourdna> hi
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[18:18:31] <humdinger> hello abuseyourdna
[18:18:43] <CIA-49> scottmc * r912 /haikuports/trunk/media-sound/ (schismtracker schismtracker/schismtracker-20100713.bep):
[18:18:43] <CIA-49> Initial .bep file for schismtracker. This pulls right from the hg repository. TODO: Add a .bep file for the the next
[18:18:43] <CIA-49> release after 2010-07-13 as they have fixed the Haiku build for gcc4 in hg. Also need to add/upstream the Haiku HVIF
[18:18:43] <CIA-49> icon, and move the resulting executable from B_COMMON_BIN_DIRECTORY/schismtracker to
[18:18:43] <CIA-49> B_APPS_DIRECTORY/schismtracker/schismtracker.
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[18:24:31] <lorglas> cu
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[18:43:29] <abuseyourdna_> arrrhhhh........
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[19:49:00] <Xeon3D> Anyone swedish here?
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[19:53:22] <dru345> hi Xeon3D o/
[19:53:41] <Xeon3D> hi :)
[19:55:03] <CIA-49> phoudoin * r37497 /haiku/trunk/Jamfile: Removed NetworkingKit pseudo-target from OpenBeOS era: useless since long already.
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[19:58:38] <phoudoin_> Xeon3D: not sweedish myself, but I own a Golden Retriever who is. Does it count?
[19:58:52] <helf> do you also eat meatballs?
[19:58:56] <phoudoin_> swedish, even.
[19:58:59] <marshan> hi helf
[19:59:05] <helf> do you go bjork bjork bjork?
[20:00:02] <phoudoin_> well, I lunch while shopping at Ik*a sometimes, indeed.
[20:00:09] <phoudoin_> So, meatballs eating, sure.
[20:01:28] <phoudoin_> but I must confess I've never go bjork bjork yet.
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[20:01:52] <phoudoin_> Except after my kids, of course, but... doesn't count as swedishness, right?
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[20:22:29] <SexPistols> hello, hello
[20:22:31] <SexPistols> what news?
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[20:50:05] <Xeon3D> dru345: you still a cheese lover?
[20:50:17] <dru345> lol sure
[20:51:04] <Xeon3D> got one for you to try
[20:51:05] <Xeon3D> :D
[20:51:10] <Xeon3D> *big evil grin*
[20:51:13] <Xeon3D> ready?
[20:51:28] <Xeon3D> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu
[20:51:53] <dru345> kinky
[20:52:13] <Xeon3D> erm
[20:52:26] <Xeon3D> rotten cheese with jumping worms? no thanks.
[20:52:37] <dru345> hey i didn't get that far lol
[20:53:05] <dru345> i didn't realize the maggots would still be alive :/
[20:54:30] <dru345> I think i'll pass on that one :)
[20:55:54] <dru345> have you had it Xeon3D? ;P
[20:56:00] <Xeon3D> hell no :P
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[21:01:36] * dru345 may have had pecorino before :P
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[21:02:04] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37498 /haiku/trunk/ (171 files in 13 dirs):
[21:02:04] <CIA-49> Update ICU to 4.4
[21:02:04] <CIA-49> * Remove 4.2 sourcecode
[21:02:04] <CIA-49> * ICU is now an optional package (mandatory)
[21:02:04] <CIA-49> * Adjust the namespaces and libraries names where needed
[21:03:24] <Duggan> hey dru345, Xeon3D, etc
[21:04:31] <Duggan> lol sounds tasty
[21:07:12] <dru345> hi Duggan
[21:10:28] <Xeon3D> hi Duggan ...
[21:10:31] <Xeon3D> eww tasty
[21:10:35] * Xeon3D just had the chills
[21:13:08] <Xeon3D> last wedding I was at had a crapload of different cheeses on the buffet, but I was so sleep-deprived I can not remember their names...
[21:15:00] <Duggan> hehe
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[21:15:08] <Duggan> just look at the picture, doesn't that look tasty?
[21:16:01] <Duggan> if I only had youtube right now...
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[21:16:49] <Duggan> rofl.... the name of the picture is "Snob_food.jpg"
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[21:23:28] <marc_smith> wow, a fly on my wall
[21:23:43] <marc_smith> never see it here
[21:23:54] <marc_smith> environment contaminated, warning, warning
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[21:25:09] <lordnothing> mmadia: were you able to test the mana world with gcc2hybrid?
[21:25:32] <mmadia> no, i gave up after the libpng issue
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[21:25:56] <lordnothing> hrm..
[21:26:21] <mmadia> though, i normally don't install/use the SDL based games, so it may be something trivial
[21:26:37] <lordnothing> i would've thought sdl_mixer would break it
[21:26:43] <Duggan> I was just looking at that game earlier... it looks alot like a game a friend of mine made back in the 90's with QBasic
[21:27:45] <lordnothing> maybe. libpng12.so.0 is a symlink to libpng12.so.0.xx.0 iirc
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[21:28:36] <mmadia> lemme check the back of my eyelids for a half hour... i think i saw the answer there. bbiaf
[21:28:36] <Duggan> anybody know how to force a kill?
[21:28:45] <Duggan> l8r mmadia
[21:28:59] <Duggan> trying to kill gdb and it aint working too well :/
[21:29:00] <lordnothing> process manager in the deskbar
[21:29:21] <lordnothing> duggan: ^^^
[21:29:45] <Duggan> ah ok, got it...
[21:30:00] <Duggan> wasn't listed in the "quit an application" menu, had to go to the team menu
[21:30:09] <Duggan> thank you
[21:30:21] <Duggan> "kill" wasn't cutting it :/
[21:30:24] <PulkoMandy> in terminal you can use kill -9
[21:30:32] <Duggan> ah ok, thank you PulkoMandy
[21:30:56] <PulkoMandy> (it's more bruteforce, the regular kill lets the application a chance to cleanup)
[21:31:28] <Duggan> wasn't the whole point of using kill was when it was necessary to force a program to stop?
[21:33:18] <lordnothing> i have to wonder if what michaelvo says about ddlmixer requiring a media server built with gcc4 is true...
[21:33:27] <lordnothing> sdlmixer*
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[21:37:10] <lordnothing> if it's not, chocolate doom and the mana world need to be tested on gcc2hybrid
[21:37:59] <PulkoMandy> Duggan: the command is bad named, it can send all kind of signals to programs
[21:38:19] <PulkoMandy> signal 9 is the bruteforce kill, while the default one (15 iirc) is just a quit request
[21:38:27] <PulkoMandy> and there are a lot of other ones to do other things
[21:38:41] <lordnothing> it's fun to send signall 11 to an app :P
[21:38:55] <Duggan> PulkoMandy ah ok, thank you... didn't know that
[21:39:32] <SexPistols> wow http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/games/3d/quake-iii-for-haiku
[21:41:00] <Duggan> hmm tcsetpgrp...
[21:42:08] <Duggan> tcsetpgrp failed in terminal_inferior: Invalid Argument .... anyone care to translate? :/
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[21:43:42] <Duggan> hey Ziusudra
[21:44:00] <Ziusudra> hi o/
[21:45:49] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37499 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalBuildFeatures:
[21:45:49] <CIA-49> * Strip the ICU libraries
[21:45:49] <CIA-49> * Usethe proper name (with .44 suffix).
[21:46:10] <tqh> Duggan that's just a message the debugger prints if it's started in certain ways.
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[22:01:07] <CIA-49> zooey * r37500 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/ (32 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> Implemented support for nl_langinfo()
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> * added public headers langinfo.h and nl_types.h
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> * dropped old (kept in private) versions of monetary.h, langinfo.h and
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> nl_types.h
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> * restructured handling of global data to avoid initialization order problems
[22:01:07] <CIA-49> * started to add support for the LC_MESSAGES category
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[22:29:47] * dru345 bangs his head on the Tracker code
[22:30:38] <Duggan> haha better you than me
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[22:34:08] <dru345> on the upside my code doesn't crash Tracker
[22:34:18] <dru345> on the downside it's not doing what it should either >.<
[22:34:30] <Duggan> maybe thats why its not crashing tracker?
[22:34:41] <Duggan> hehe
[22:34:56] <Duggan> I'm off... its 3:40pm, time for bed
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[22:35:36] <Duggan> l8r dru345, *
[22:35:52] <dru345> later Duggan
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[22:46:03] <Xeon3D> i'll be back in a hour or so
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[22:50:44] <lordnothing> i think i'm going to install gcc2h to sd card for testing sdl ports..
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[22:56:09] <CIA-49> scottmc * r913 /haikuports/trunk/media-video/ffmpeg/ (ffmpeg-0.6.bep patches/ffmpeg-0.6.patch): Updated ffmpeg to 0.6
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[23:13:18] <CIA-49> scottmc * r914 /haikuports/trunk/media-video/ffmpeg/ffmpeg-0.6.bep: update the copyright for ffmpeg-0.6.
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[23:43:56] <HaikuUser> hi
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[23:45:06] <CIA-49> zooey * r37501 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/src/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
[23:45:07] <CIA-49> * fix build of kernel, runtime_loader and bootloader
[23:45:07] <CIA-49> * fix gcc4 build
[23:45:19] <Ziusudra> hi Ventajou
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