July 10, 2010 
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July 10, 2010 [00:00:05] <tm512> nope :P[00:00:09] <luroh> hehe[00:00:34] <tm512> i wonder what would happen if a developer asked Acer about getting a netbook for development use[00:00:48] <tm512> for like, discount or something :/[00:00:49] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[00:02:25] <luroh> probably not worth the trouble[00:02:38] <luroh> better just go buy one[00:03:06] <tm512> if i had the knowhow i'd definitely try to get it to work[00:03:53] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[00:04:16] *** _gringo has quit IRC[00:05:13] <luroh> yeah, good support for basic hardware is important[00:09:58] <CIA-49> zooey * r37449 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/src/tests/system/libroot/posix/locale_test.cpp: * added comment to why wchar-tests fail with gcc2[00:11:21] <CIA-49> zooey * r37450 /haiku/branches/developer/zooey/posix-locale/ (11 files in 2 dirs):[00:11:22] <CIA-49> * implemented data bridge for glibc numeric locale parts, which makes[00:11:22] <CIA-49> printf number formatting respect our current locale.[00:15:45] *** _gringo has joined #haiku[00:22:34] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[00:41:11] *** dru345 has quit IRC[00:45:24] *** dru345 has joined #haiku[00:46:45] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[00:52:06] <tm512> yea, GMA 3150 is still broken[00:52:15] <tm512> its just a stretched 800x600[00:53:10] *** ari-free has quit IRC[00:54:56] <luroh> tm512: yeah, you might want to cc yourself to get updates on this ticket: http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6202[00:55:06] <tm512> ok[00:55:17] *** ianj|O has quit IRC[00:55:42] <tm512> is there anyway to brute-force the right resolution, depth, and refresh rate?[00:55:56] <luroh> unfortunately not[00:56:21] <luroh> by the way, what's its device id?[00:56:28] <luroh> listdev should tell you[00:57:23] <tm512> heh, i had it at one point[00:57:45] <luroh> *checking old logs*[00:57:56] <Duggan> mine's a 3100, so I'm having issues too :([00:58:01] <Duggan> but vesa works ok...[00:58:22] <tm512> vesa doesnt support such a non-standard resolution for me[00:58:28] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[00:58:30] *** xray7224 has quit IRC[00:58:39] *** ari-free has quit IRC[00:58:46] <tm512> unno why acer couldnt put a 1024x768 screen on it[00:58:51] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:59:20] <luroh> tm512: a012, slightly different than the one in the ticket[00:59:23] <Duggan> I'm running at 1024x768, but its a widescreen... I'm used to it I guess hehe[00:59:56] <tm512> luroh: it was reporting two, a011 and a011[00:59:58] <tm512> *12[01:00:00] <tm512> err[01:01:35] <luroh> yeah[01:01:44] <tm512> one was for the internal graphics, one was for the vga connector[01:02:29] <luroh> since you have a different device than what's listed in #6202, ideal would be if you could create a new ticket[01:02:41] <tm512> my system is an Atom N450[01:02:47] <tm512> so it is different[01:03:01] <luroh> yes[01:03:27] <tm512> gotta register first[01:03:54] <tm512> unless you could file a bug on behalf of me :P[01:03:59] <tm512> hehe[01:04:02] <luroh> about time you register :P[01:04:15] <tm512> im checking to see of i have output from listdev[01:05:45] *** Shisui has quit IRC[01:06:57] <tm512> yay! i have a listdev output from 4/21[01:08:33] <luroh> if nothing else, it will save us from having to go through this again :P[01:09:38] <tm512> device Display controller [3|80|0] vendor 8086: Intel Corporation device a012: N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller[01:09:39] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[01:09:48] <tm512> device Display controller (VGA compatible controller, VGA controller) [3|0|0] vendor 8086: Intel Corporation device a011: N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller[01:10:03] <luroh> yep, those are the ones[01:10:14] <luroh> (according to wikipedia, at least)[01:10:21] <tm512> glad we have that established[01:11:39] <tm512> http://victim.homeip.net/listdev.txt[01:12:10] *** rkbm has joined #haiku[01:12:35] <luroh> looks good, please attach that file to the ticket[01:12:50] <tm512> ok, soon as i register[01:13:31] <tm512> looks like i already have one XD[01:13:51] <tm512> yup[01:14:07] <luroh> even better[01:15:33] <tm512> attach, or link?[01:15:44] <luroh> attach please[01:16:13] <luroh> (links tend to 404 sooner or later)[01:16:15] <tm512> alright[01:18:29] *** gyo has joined #haiku[01:18:32] <gyo> Hi[01:18:43] *** yourpalal_ has joined #haiku[01:19:52] <gyo> The bepo keymap is now ready![01:20:28] <luroh> great, what is it? :)[01:20:34] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[01:21:38] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[01:22:57] <gyo> this a frenchspeakin dvorak map, luroh[01:23:00] <gyo> :)[01:23:02] <gyo> +g[01:23:24] <luroh> ah, cool[01:23:55] <gyo> I'm very new user to Haiku[01:25:38] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:26:06] <gyo> I'm chatting from the RMLL and the guys from Haiku have done good communication about Haiku[01:26:31] *** raichoo has quit IRC[01:27:09] <luroh> how's the turnout been over there, have there been many visitors to RMLL this time around?[01:27:24] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:27:50] <gyo> oh yes, a lot![01:28:36] <luroh> that's good to hear[01:28:42] <gyo> I'm in charge of the Archlinux stand and between the BÉPO stand and Haiku stand :)[01:29:13] <luroh> very fitting :)[01:29:27] <gyo> sure![01:29:35] <tm512> arch is good[01:29:56] <gyo> yes it is[01:31:36] <mmu_screen> plop[01:31:43] <gyo> mmu_screen: o/[01:34:33] <gyo> mmu_screen: bepo for Haiku is ready![01:35:31] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[01:35:55] <tm512> haiku... for powerpc?[01:36:25] *** dru345 is now known as away345[01:36:34] <mmu_screen> gyo: you finished yours ?[01:36:37] <mmadia> if you're lucky, it'll crash to Kernel Debug Land, tm512[01:36:40] <mmu_screen> still trying to fix the script[01:37:33] <tm512> anyway, intel_extreme buggers: http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6293[01:38:31] <luroh> tm512: great, thanks[01:38:39] <tm512> np[01:39:03] <tm512> i want to see it fixed more than anyone here :P[01:39:45] <luroh> i think there are currently two things preventing that, both fixable[01:40:05] <tm512> which tickets?[01:40:10] <tm512> i'll add dependencies[01:40:11] <luroh> one is that the intel_extreme developer currently doesn't have much time for haiku dev'ing[01:40:18] <tm512> oh[01:40:43] <luroh> the other is that he doesn't have the actual hardware in question, the 3150[01:41:00] <luroh> (not that i know of anyway)[01:41:36] <tm512> ah[01:42:09] <luroh> but one thing at a time, now there's at least a ticket[01:42:48] <tm512> true[01:44:01] <tm512> this is currently the only PC I could use haiku with :/[01:44:21] <tm512> the other PC needs ndiswrapper for the wireless :P[01:44:52] <luroh> i'm changing that to an enhancement ticket, since the intel_extreme driver is currently not supposed to support that device[01:45:11] <tm512> ok[01:45:25] <luroh> yeah, i was about to ask, how's the rest of the hardware supported, do you have sound, wifi..?[01:46:20] <tm512> sound is... iffy[01:46:24] <tm512> i have wifi[01:46:31] <tm512> thank god for atheros[01:47:13] <tm512> iirc, sound only plays through the internal speakers[01:47:21] <tm512> not through the headphone port[01:47:32] <tm512> this was pre-alpha2 though[01:47:40] <luroh> hm, rings a bell, that one may have been fixed[01:48:23] <tm512> :)[01:48:37] <tm512> i was having bugs with NTFS[01:49:00] <luroh> oh, what kind of bugs?[01:49:01] <tm512> i could mount the drive and browse it, but files didnt have types[01:49:11] <tm512> so i couldnt open my mp3s[01:49:15] <luroh> ah yes, that one is still with us[01:49:20] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[01:50:13] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[01:50:14] *** saivert has quit IRC[01:52:47] <luroh> well, hitting the sack here, good night[01:52:51] <tm512> night[02:12:42] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[02:12:46] *** Geoz has quit IRC[02:17:56] *** aphedox_ has joined #haiku[02:18:23] *** rkbm has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** Mixer has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** Malmis has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** aphedox has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** surrounder has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** robert_ has quit IRC[02:18:23] *** high-rez has quit IRC[02:22:19] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[02:22:38] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[02:22:55] *** rkbm has joined #haiku[02:23:06] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[02:24:34] *** gyo has quit IRC[02:25:29] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[02:32:52] *** margiolas has joined #haiku[02:33:48] <Disreali> \o/[02:34:32] <Disreali> I have fond my Quake 1, 2 & 3 disks. now to see if any of the ports work on haiku[02:35:19] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:35:21] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:35:29] *** robert_ has joined #haiku[02:37:13] <mmadia> Disreali : by chance are you on 37438 or newer?[02:37:54] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:37:56] <Disreali> one sec[02:37:57] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:38:00] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:38:54] <Disreali> mmadia; I'm running a freshly built (this morning) r37440[02:39:01] *** stroh has quit IRC[02:39:17] <mmadia> do you have haikuporter installed? i think autoconf 2.66 breaks somethings.[02:39:27] <mmadia> .. like building pkgconfig[02:39:35] <Disreali> hmm...[02:39:54] <Disreali> have not yet installed it. thanks for the reminder[02:40:34] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:40:37] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:40:40] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:40:50] *** ambroff has quit IRC[02:41:41] <Disreali> bummer... Haiku only sees the audio section of the Quake disk[02:41:57] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[02:42:17] <Ziusudra> I submitted a patch for that but it hasn't been committed[02:42:43] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:42:46] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:42:48] *** high-rez has joined #haiku[02:42:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmadia[02:42:58] <Disreali> Ziusudra; cool[02:43:07] <Disreali> wb mmadia[02:43:20] *** mmadia sets mode: +b high-rez!*@*[02:43:22] <Disreali> or something[02:43:30] *** mmadia sets mode: -o mmadia[02:43:54] <Disreali> Ziusudra; do you have a ticket number?[02:44:08] <Ziusudra> if you can figure out where the data starts and stops you can use dd to extract it[02:45:02] <Ziusudra> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/3473[02:45:22] <mmadia> how do i leave a memo for people?[02:46:01] <Disreali> here? we can leave messages? nice[02:46:02] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[02:46:12] <mmadia> ... i thought so.[02:46:23] <Disreali> reminds me of Beshare[02:46:30] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[02:46:30] <mmadia> well, in case he's reading the IRC logs .... high-rez : hi, i placed a temporary ban on you due to the repeated "Excess Flood"s that were causing you to join, disconnect, and re-join repeatedly. Drop me a line once you fix the issue & i'll remove the ban.[02:46:32] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[02:47:21] *** Guest92831 has quit IRC[02:48:40] <Ziusudra> /memoserv help[02:48:59] <mmadia> thank you, Ziusudra[02:49:17] <Disreali> memosevr sweat![02:51:50] <Disreali> nice[02:52:32] *** Mixer has quit IRC[02:52:47] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[02:53:01] <Disreali> <Scotty> I like this ship. It's exciting. </Scotty>[02:53:29] <Disreali> Simon Pegg is awesome[02:57:07] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[02:58:47] *** Mixer has quit IRC[02:59:07] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[02:59:22] *** JoeyA has joined #haiku[03:00:43] *** judgen has joined #haiku[03:02:05] *** impy has joined #haiku[03:04:55] <Disreali> neat. I forgot I bought the linux version of Quake3[03:05:07] *** Mixer has quit IRC[03:05:37] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[03:15:38] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[03:16:14] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[03:18:33] *** jmayfield has quit IRC[03:21:37] *** Mixer has quit IRC[03:21:57] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[03:41:45] *** impy has quit IRC[03:49:57] *** margiolas has quit IRC[03:59:07] *** aphedox_ has quit IRC[04:01:55] <judgen> WOW do you wamt o see the ultimarte fail of spelling by yours truly....http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2010/07/09/the-truth-about-att/comment-page-1/#comment-18321[04:02:00] <judgen> hahahahhaa[04:05:59] *** ZiusudraZoon has joined #haiku[04:06:00] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[04:06:10] *** ZiusudraZoon is now known as Ziusudra[04:07:09] <Ziusudra> wow, that link locked up everything but KDL[04:07:21] *** Duggan has quit IRC[04:07:47] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[04:08:05] <Duggan> judgen your post killed my system :([04:08:24] <Ziusudra> me too[04:08:35] <Duggan> hey Ziusudra[04:08:42] <Ziusudra> hi Duggan[04:09:00] <Duggan> I guess its a good time to try and update now...[04:11:16] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[04:11:38] *** Disreali has quit IRC[04:12:33] <judgen> Duggan, shoult not do so[04:14:11] *** Mixer has quit IRC[04:14:31] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[04:22:34] <Xeon3D> yo/[04:22:48] <Ziusudra> hi Xeon3D[04:22:52] <Xeon3D> Ziusudra, judgen , Duggan :)[04:28:33] *** Mixer has quit IRC[04:29:03] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[04:30:35] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[04:34:53] *** Megaf has quit IRC[04:35:03] *** Mixer has quit IRC[04:37:16] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[04:40:22] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[04:41:09] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[04:41:35] *** yourpalal_ has quit IRC[04:45:09] *** Leon9 has joined #haiku[04:45:16] *** Mixer has quit IRC[04:45:33] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[04:45:39] *** wry has joined #haiku[04:45:59] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[04:48:36] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[04:49:17] *** wry has quit IRC[04:49:34] *** wry 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/haiku/trunk/build/jam/BuildSetup: Use -WError also for libdevice and libtranslation[06:55:33] *** Mixer has quit IRC[06:56:13] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[07:01:48] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:06:14] *** Mixer has quit IRC[07:06:32] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[07:27:59] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[07:32:07] *** LoganA has quit IRC[07:49:07] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[07:50:03] <jmayfield> Hi[07:51:27] *** Mixer has quit IRC[07:52:14] *** veve-mao has quit IRC[07:55:01] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[08:02:00] *** jmayfield has quit IRC[08:03:05] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[08:07:01] *** Mixer has quit IRC[08:32:45] *** LoganA has quit IRC[08:33:03] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[08:38:08] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[08:46:49] *** Leon9 has quit IRC[08:52:08] *** Mixer has quit IRC[08:52:26] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[09:02:36] *** Shisui has joined #haiku[09:08:27] *** Mixer has quit IRC[09:08:52] *** marc_smith has joined #haiku[09:08:58] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[09:13:05] *** lorglas has quit IRC[09:40:07] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[09:43:57] *** Mixer has quit IRC[09:45:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[10:04:39] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[10:05:00] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[10:09:26] *** Mixer has quit IRC[10:09:45] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[10:13:01] *** youngblkfamous has joined #haiku[10:17:46] *** Mixer has quit IRC[10:18:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[10:22:41] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[10:28:15] *** Mixer has quit IRC[10:33:48] <CIA-49> mmadia * r37452 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/print/PrintTransport.cpp: Automatic whitespace cleanup. No functional change[10:34:12] <CIA-49> mmadia * r37453 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/print/PrintTransport.cpp: Fixes build.[10:34:43] <tm512> double-commit[10:36:13] <humdinger> jab[10:36:16] <humdinger> jab[10:36:19] <humdinger> punch![10:36:42] <tm512> why am i smiling at what you just said[10:37:24] <humdinger> maybe you think of a different kind of punch.[10:37:41] <tm512> no, i think im just a bit tired[10:37:54] <marc_smith> tm512: I hope you are not a bot ;)[10:38:20] <humdinger> sleepybot[10:38:24] <humdinger> yawn[10:38:34] <tm512> marc_smith: i listened to this one dj that had the same name as you[10:38:46] * marc_smith is reports he's definitely not a bot, although he use to spend quite some time before his PC[10:38:52] <tm512> wanna see a bot?[10:38:55] <tm512> i have one[10:39:14] <humdinger> please![10:39:19] <humdinger> zip it up again...[10:39:19] <marc_smith> hmm, don't know any DJ's. Am listening jazz/metal/classical/goa music ;)[10:39:29] <humdinger> nobody wants to see your "bot".[10:39:30] <humdinger> :)[10:39:53] <marc_smith> tub maybe?[10:39:58] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[10:40:34] <tm512> my bot's dictionary is 8155 lines long[10:40:44] * marc_smith fixes his bionic eye and replaces his accus[10:41:05] <marc_smith> aaah, now's better[10:42:49] *** humdinger is now known as humdinger-afk[10:45:37] <Duggan> anybody know of a way to get a bitmap of a view?[10:46:47] <vooshy> Duggan: Screenshot Application[10:46:52] <Duggan> procedurally[10:47:47] <gluon> Duggan: maybe the Screenshot source code gives you a hint[10:48:04] <Duggan> good point..[10:48:44] <gluon> it probably creates a bitmap of the Desktop Tracker view[10:53:35] <Duggan> well I went to look something up and I was already on the BBitmap page in the bebook...[10:53:51] <Duggan> and lo and behold, a whole section on using BViews to draw on a BBitmap[10:54:54] <Duggan> I'm wondering if when I initiate a drag, I could temporarily remove the view from its parent, then add it to the bitmap, explicitly call Draw() then remove it from the bitmap again and add it back to the parent...[10:55:46] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[10:57:45] *** vooshy has quit IRC[11:03:49] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[11:08:28] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[11:09:20] *** youngblkfamous has quit IRC[11:11:56] *** iIngenu has joined #haiku[11:13:46] *** Mixer has quit IRC[11:14:07] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[11:14:10] *** saivert has joined #haiku[11:23:40] *** wry has quit IRC[11:28:09] *** Mixer has quit IRC[11:29:54] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[11:36:14] *** margiolas has joined #haiku[11:41:56] *** Mixer has quit IRC[11:42:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[11:51:29] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[11:56:25] *** Mixer has quit IRC[11:56:35] *** stroh has joined #haiku[11:56:53] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[11:57:48] *** iIngenu has quit IRC[12:00:53] <CIA-49> mmadia * r907 /haikuports/trunk/net-p2p/transmission/ (patches/transmission-2.01.patch transmission-2.01.bep): Added bep & patch for v2.01. Builds and lightly tested.[12:02:53] *** Mixer has quit IRC[12:03:00] *** humdinger-afk has quit IRC[12:03:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[12:03:52] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[12:09:17] <CIA-49> mmadia * r908 /haikuports/trunk/net-p2p/transmission/ (patches/transmission-2.01.patch transmission-2.01.bep): Fixed bep & patch[12:11:18] *** raichoo has quit IRC[12:13:33] *** odites has joined #haiku[12:25:25] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[12:25:26] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[12:35:10] *** xray7224 has joined #haiku[12:37:56] *** warpdesign has quit IRC[12:54:31] *** away345 is now known as dru345[12:54:33] <dru345> o.[12:54:37] <dru345> hi o/[12:55:07] <brobostigon> hi dru345[12:55:28] <brobostigon> o/[12:58:55] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[12:59:37] *** Mixer has quit IRC[13:00:03] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[13:03:12] <CIA-49> mmadia * r37454 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages: Updated Transmission to v2.01[13:03:42] *** vooshy has quit IRC[13:05:56] <CIA-49> mmadia * r37455 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/overlayimage/ (Jamfile OverlayApp.cpp OverlayApp.h): Updates for the Catalog API change. (hoping this was done correctly!)[13:08:49] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[13:09:19] <marc_smith> hey guys. Strange thing happened to me on my Haiku instalation few days ago. I was deleting some of the files from the desktop and then BANG! everything dissapeared from it for a second, ten it restored again itself [tracker crash I guess?] and almost everything as gone - only trashcan and Haiku partition icon left ... plus, some of the shortcuts from the menu tracker - applications - were gone ... anyone faced the same problems?[13:10:57] <CIA-49> mmadia * r37456 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/net/preflet/ (Jamfile NetworkSetup.cpp): Updates for the Catalog API change.[13:12:04] <Duggan> marc_smith can't say I have and hope I dont :/[13:12:31] <dru345> not seen that marc_smith[13:12:48] <dru345> is it Alpha2 or a nightly, marc_smith?[13:14:44] <marc_smith> Alpha2[13:15:03] <marc_smith> and that's strange - I always used nightly builds, just now I installed Alpha[13:15:13] <marc_smith> well - that is *this time*[13:15:20] <marc_smith> and I never had such problems[13:15:37] <marc_smith> my shortcuts are now a little mess, but I think I'[13:15:45] <marc_smith> ll reinstall to night build[13:16:21] *** Mixer has quit IRC[13:17:37] *** stroh has quit IRC[13:18:00] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[13:18:03] <Duggan> marc_smith I've heard lots of bad things about R1A2 and haven't had any luck with it myself... nightlies are much more stable[13:19:07] <marc_smith> very true [what - in fact - I can tell for myself now][13:19:09] *** margiolas has quit IRC[13:20:22] <marc_smith> well, I'll have to DL anyboot and dd it onto my SD card. To me it works better than ISO installation, which is somehow slow, and I don't know the cause of it[13:20:38] <Duggan> I don't bother with that anymore hehe[13:20:51] <marc_smith> how are you installing your Haiku , Duggan ?[13:21:04] <Duggan> I have 2 haiku installs[13:21:12] <marc_smith> don't say you're still using BeOS max CD :D[13:21:15] <marc_smith> aaah, very nice[13:21:28] <marc_smith> separate disks? partitions?[13:21:33] <Duggan> I download a raw image in one, mount it, mount the other partition, wipe it, copy the contents over then run makebootable[13:21:38] <Duggan> partitions[13:22:01] <marc_smith> hm, that sounds very good indeed. Well, I can do the same with my Haiku Alpha2 from SD card[13:22:05] <marc_smith> hmm[13:22:34] <Duggan> no dd's no wasting a usb drive, no burning cd's I'm only going to use once...[13:23:16] <marc_smith> fortunately to me DD does its job very fast[13:24:01] *** Mixer has quit IRC[13:24:37] <Duggan> yeah but I thought dd copies a set sized partition?[13:24:43] <marc_smith> how often do you update your nightly builds installations, Duggan?[13:25:00] <marc_smith> you know, I used to specify bs to 32M[13:25:02] <marc_smith> at linux[13:25:04] <Duggan> well, I tried to tonight to the current gcc4 hybrid, but I had some issues with it[13:25:24] <marc_smith> with my obsd setup it's not worth the game - embedded crypto stuff slows the whole thing down to the crawl[13:25:30] <Duggan> right now I'm back on my r37283[13:25:38] <marc_smith> I see[13:26:09] <Duggan> so I guess a couple weeks?.... a month? I dunno... lol[13:26:14] <marc_smith> heheh[13:26:55] <Duggan> I downloaded the gcc2 hybrid thinking it might be the gcc4hybrid that was the cause of the issues, but I haven't installed it yet[13:30:47] <dru345> why would you use gcc4h?[13:34:13] <Duggan> to try it out[13:34:16] <Duggan> see if it worked better/worse[13:34:21] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[13:34:26] <Duggan> it was worse, I came back[13:37:41] <dru345> sensible :)[13:37:55] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[13:38:00] <Duggan> hi Disreali[13:38:05] <dru345> hi Disreali[13:42:54] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[13:47:34] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[13:49:45] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[13:55:35] *** Mixer has quit IRC[13:55:52] *** sprma has joined #haiku[13:55:55] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[13:56:17] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[13:56:17] *** sprma has quit IRC[13:56:18] *** sprma_ is now known as sprma[13:56:35] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[14:00:45] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[14:01:41] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[14:01:56] *** Mixer has quit IRC[14:02:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[14:09:54] <Disreali> morning[14:14:25] *** Mixer has quit IRC[14:14:40] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[14:18:43] * dru345 jams tracker :P~[14:24:58] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[14:26:59] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[14:28:48] <Xeon3D> dru345: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCmFDzaYyQ[14:28:56] <Xeon3D> appropriate music :D[14:29:09] <dru345> :P[14:30:43] *** Mixer has quit IRC[14:31:44] <Xeon3D> even tho, I'm making.. (not jamming)[14:32:09] <Xeon3D> 2.6.34-Xeon (with CK+PREEMPT+100Hz)[14:36:54] <dru345> hmm :/[14:37:02] <dru345> it builds but won't run[14:37:19] <dru345> maybe i need to update my nightly (again)[14:42:29] * dru345 installs the latest nightly[14:42:45] <dru345> worst case i'll have Xeon3D build a haiku with my tracker code ;)[14:46:41] *** Ola has joined #haiku[14:47:09] *** Ola is now known as Guest36405[14:47:16] *** Guest36405 is now known as OlaHughson[14:51:09] <Xeon3D> :O[14:51:19] * Xeon3D doesn't even have haiku sources on hd.[14:51:56] <dru345> o.O[14:52:54] * OlaHughson does have source engine games on HD :#[14:52:55] <OlaHughson> ;3[14:53:49] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37457 /haiku/trunk/src/data/keymaps/French (B?\195?\131?\194?\169po).keymap:[14:53:49] <CIA-49> Add "B?\195?\131?\194?\169po" French keymap (French Dvorak layout), contributed by[14:53:49] <CIA-49> Guillaume[14:53:49] <CIA-49> Sarradin at the[14:53:49] <CIA-49> RMLL. Thanks![14:59:07] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[15:01:52] * dru345 tries again and looks Xeon3D :P[15:02:56] <dru345> jams tracker again[15:11:01] * Xeon3D rebooting[15:11:31] *** acous has joined #haiku[15:11:58] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[15:18:54] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[15:20:48] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37458 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/ (Jamfile filepanel.cpp): Patch by Jorma Karvonnen : localize filepanel application.[15:22:55] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[15:28:13] *** marc_smith has quit IRC[15:30:15] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[15:30:21] <xray7224> Hey the media server thing keeps dying in haiku[15:32:09] <luroh> PulkoMandy: i'm having trouble svn upping since 37457, i'm getting:[15:32:12] <luroh> svn: Can't convert string from 'UTF-8' to native encoding:[15:32:13] <luroh> svn: src/data/keymaps/French (B?\195?\131?\194?\169po).keymap[15:32:35] <dru345> i'm doing svn now luroh will let u know result[15:37:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[15:38:44] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[15:46:20] *** Haikuness has joined #haiku[15:50:46] *** Mixer has quit IRC[15:51:11] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[15:55:58] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[15:56:15] *** Duggan has quit IRC[15:57:20] <PulkoMandy> mh[15:57:33] <PulkoMandy> maybe accents in filename wasn't a good idea after all[15:58:10] <luroh> ;)[15:58:14] <dru345> it's rarely a good idea[15:59:35] <PulkoMandy> but the name without the accent would be wrong, the "e" is another key in this keymap ...[16:00:08] <luroh> just translate it to a godly language and keymap :p[16:00:22] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[16:00:33] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[16:03:13] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:03:17] <OmniMancer> you have made me veerry angry[16:03:23] <OmniMancer> verry angy indeed[16:03:30] <OmniMancer> angry*[16:03:32] <OmniMancer> :P[16:04:36] *** tqh has joined #haiku[16:04:50] <OmniMancer> PulkoMandy: names are not stored as scancodes though...[16:05:10] <OmniMancer> i.e. how can the keymap change the letter after it has been entered>[16:05:11] <OmniMancer> ?[16:07:31] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:08:33] <PulkoMandy> its just a name... but if the filename is wrong, the display in the preflet wil be wrong too[16:10:44] <OmniMancer> are accents to important?[16:11:01] <OmniMancer> also can't svn be informed that the native encoding is utf8?[16:13:32] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:13:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:14:00] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[16:14:30] <PulkoMandy> OmniMancer : yes it is, the first keys on this keymap are bépo, and e is another key[16:14:51] <dru345> i was able to svn trunk just fine[16:14:58] <PulkoMandy> svn is ok[16:15:12] <PulkoMandy> the problem is if your local filesystem can't store the é character[16:15:27] <PulkoMandy> (ifyou dont use latin-1 or unicode, it likely can't ...)[16:17:29] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:18:27] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[16:19:50] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:21:12] *** Haikuness has quit IRC[16:21:41] *** youngblkfamous has joined #haiku[16:24:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:27:34] *** jvff has joined #haiku[16:30:20] <HeTo> PulkoMandy: you probably have the wrong character set somewhere, a UTF-8 sequence with bytes 195 131 194 169 means é[16:32:02] <HeTo> looks like something that was originally UTF-8 may have been interpreted as ISO-8859-1 and then converted to UTF-8[16:32:56] <HeTo> if you interpret UTF-8 é as ISO-8859-1 and convert it to UTF-8 you get é[16:33:14] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[16:33:49] <PulkoMandy> mh[16:33:55] <PulkoMandy> then the haiku svn port is wrong[16:34:56] *** judgen has quit IRC[16:35:34] <HeTo> it seems Haiku sets no LC_ or LANG variables[16:36:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:36:34] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:36:44] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37459 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/VMAnonymousCache.cpp: Use MovePage() instead of RemovePage() + InsertPage().[16:37:06] <OmniMancer1> :([16:38:28] <HeTo> because Haiku uses UTF-8, setting LANG to en_US.UTF-8 or the relevant locale for the current Haiku locale would be sensible for compatibility with POSIX apps[16:38:46] <PulkoMandy> patches welcomes :>[16:38:57] *** Bookman has joined #haiku[16:39:41] <Bookman> I am trying out Haiku for the first time running under Ubuntu 10.04/VirtualBox OSE and I don't know how to get the networking to work.[16:40:25] <PulkoMandy> you have to select the right network adapter in virtual box settings[16:40:29] <PulkoMandy> then it will just work[16:40:56] <dru345> Bookman - select Intel PRO/1000 Desktop as the network adapter[16:41:35] <Bookman> I shall try, thanks! I'll let you know in a few moments.[16:42:34] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:42:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:46:00] *** Trezker has quit IRC[16:46:46] <luroh> PulkoMandy: can you at least rename that file for now? i'm sort of stuck here otherwise[16:47:06] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[16:47:54] <Bookman> dru345, hmmm, that setting seems to stop Haiku from booting. It is stuck on the initial startup screen with all the icons light up.[16:48:27] <dru345> that's surprising.[16:48:43] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[16:48:57] <HeTo> hmm I think you need to have the locale files in addition to just setting the LC_ or LANG environment variables[16:49:05] <dru345> Bookman - vbox 3.2.6?[16:49:20] *** sprma has quit IRC[16:49:55] <HeTo> so as long as Haiku lacks those files, you must only use ASCII in the shell of Haiku systems[16:50:18] <PulkoMandy> ICU has everything we need[16:50:22] <luroh> sorry, should have said this is linux[16:51:12] <Bookman> dru345, 3.1.6[16:52:09] <luroh> Bookman: disable VT-x/AMD-V if you haven't already[16:52:53] *** Mixer has quit IRC[16:53:24] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:56:37] <HeTo> PulkoMandy: does ICU make POSIX apps using readline, gettext and whatever work correctly? currently it doesn't, at least[16:57:10] <Bookman> luroh, it seems that PAE was checked. Turning it off allowed Haiku to boot and now the network works just fine. Thanks![16:57:21] <luroh> ah, great[17:00:19] <dru345> \o/[17:01:26] *** Mixer has quit IRC[17:01:54] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[17:02:18] <humdinger> mmadia: [haiku-commits] r37455 - haiku/trunk/src/apps/overlayimage[17:02:34] <humdinger> mmadia: bastard! I just wanted to commit those changes... :)[17:05:49] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37460 /haiku/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)[17:05:49] <CIA-49> * Moved the vm_page initialization from vm_page.cpp:vm_page_init() to the new[17:05:49] <CIA-49> vm_page::Init().[17:05:49] <CIA-49> * Made vm_page::wired_count private and added accessor methods.[17:05:49] <CIA-49> * Added VMCache::fWiredPagesCount (the number of wired pages the cache[17:05:49] <CIA-49> contains) and accessor methods.[17:05:49] <CIA-49> * Made more use of vm_page::IsMapped().[17:07:15] <CIA-49> bonefish * r37461 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/cache/block_cache.cpp: cache_end_transaction(): Allow the hook parameter to be NULL.[17:07:55] *** Mixer has quit IRC[17:08:24] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[17:16:21] *** odites has quit IRC[17:16:47] *** odites has joined #haiku[17:20:23] *** marc_smith has joined #haiku[17:22:28] *** Mixer has quit IRC[17:22:59] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[17:34:50] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[17:34:55] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[17:36:49] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[17:37:49] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[17:39:04] *** LoganA has quit IRC[17:39:09] *** humdinger has quit IRC[17:52:28] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[17:53:15] *** sprma has joined #haiku[17:54:14] *** sprma has quit IRC[17:55:51] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[17:56:26] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[17:57:03] *** Mixer has quit IRC[17:57:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[18:03:30] *** acous has quit IRC[18:09:44] *** Geoz has quit IRC[18:21:16] *** vooshy has quit IRC[18:22:33] *** marc_smi1h has joined #haiku[18:27:19] *** Curlyman has joined #haiku[18:31:40] *** Curlyman has quit IRC[18:32:05] *** Mixer has quit IRC[18:33:39] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[18:34:50] *** Curlyman has joined #haiku[18:34:56] *** Curlyman has quit IRC[18:35:20] *** curlyman has joined #haiku[18:39:39] *** Mixer has quit IRC[18:42:14] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[18:43:03] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[18:43:08] <Anarchos> i am trying to compile a file containing #include<limits>. What is the path to this header ? I am on R1/alpha2[18:44:44] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[18:49:09] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[18:50:03] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:51:37] <HeTo> Anarchos: maybe gcc 2 doesn't have it, you could use gcc 4 or convert the code to use climits[18:52:40] <Anarchos> i find it in /boot/develop/abi/x86/gcc4/tools/gcc-4.3.3-haiku-100425/include/c++/4.3.3[18:54:09] <Anarchos> HeTo ok i convert "limits" by "climits" , i get "`::numeric_limits' undeclared (first use here)"[18:54:32] <HeTo> Anarchos: climits is the C header file that defines constants like INT_MAX etc.[18:55:14] <Anarchos> HeTo the code i try to compile is icu-4.4/i18n in TeXLive[18:56:59] *** Megaf has quit IRC[18:58:00] <HeTo> if it's a large bit of code or it defines temlpates the best way is probably to compile it with gcc 4[18:58:12] <HeTo> although that might mean you need to compile some other bits with gcc 4, as well[18:59:09] <HeTo> the gcc 4 header might work in gcc 2, but I wouldn't count on it, and it's an ugly hack in any case[18:59:13] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:00:30] <Anarchos> HeTo i use a gcc2 hygbrid build for my alpha2, how can i compile with gcc4 ?[19:00:56] <HeTo> Anarchos: setgcc gcc4[19:02:06] <Anarchos> HeTo let me try. Anyway it would be fun if i could compile TeXLive to use latex on haiku :)[19:02:52] <Anarchos> hmm "C compiler can not create executables"...[19:04:35] <marc_smi1h> does anyone know how to get TV-card based on bt8x8 working on Haiku?[19:05:04] <marc_smi1h> I can see some TV-apps on Haikuware, but none of them seem to detect my cards[19:05:32] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[19:08:58] <Anarchos> HeTo any idea ?[19:09:51] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:09:55] <HeTo> Anarchos: using autoconf? it leaves a more detailed log at the directory, in the file config.log or configure.log or similar[19:11:57] <Anarchos> ok gcc4 solves the problem in icu, but now i can't configure anymore at the root of TeXLive, kind of funny :)[19:12:46] <HeTo> maybe it has cached some values that aren't true anymore[19:13:10] <Anarchos> HeTo i will try autoconf[19:13:33] *** Mixer has quit IRC[19:13:49] <HeTo> autoconf is the tool that creates the configure script[19:14:04] <HeTo> unless they have written their own configure script by hand[19:14:20] <Anarchos> i don't think so cause there is a configure.in[19:14:31] <Anarchos> configure.ac sorry[19:15:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[19:17:40] *** acous has joined #haiku[19:17:40] <HeTo> if config.cache exists try removing it then re-running configure[19:19:17] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[19:21:13] <dru345> Duggan o/[19:22:33] <Anarchos> HeTo i found the problem : cc1 is of size 0[19:23:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[19:23:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[19:27:20] <Duggan> \o dru345[19:27:32] <dru345> mow go ok Duggan? :P[19:28:08] <Duggan> meh... it got hot quick and too longer than I expected[19:28:15] <Duggan> but it was alright[19:28:28] <helf> hi[19:28:34] <Duggan> hey helf[19:28:57] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[19:30:36] *** warpdesign has joined #haiku[19:31:50] *** Mixer has quit IRC[19:32:06] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[19:32:54] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[19:33:04] <StreaK|ON> hi all[19:33:21] <dru345> hi StreaK|ON[19:34:55] *** marc_smi1h has quit IRC[19:35:04] *** marc_smi1h has joined #haiku[19:35:22] *** marc_smi1h has quit IRC[19:35:39] *** Duggan has quit IRC[19:37:54] *** curlyman has quit IRC[19:38:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[19:42:37] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:46:43] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[19:47:04] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[19:51:29] *** Bookman has quit IRC[19:52:56] *** marc_smi1h has joined #haiku[19:54:10] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:55:53] *** marc_smith has quit IRC[19:56:42] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[20:01:00] *** warpdesign_ has joined #haiku[20:01:02] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[20:01:51] *** LoganA has quit IRC[20:02:56] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[20:03:57] *** LoganA has quit IRC[20:04:55] *** warpdesign has quit IRC[20:06:12] *** dru345haiku has joined #haiku[20:06:43] *** Mixer has quit IRC[20:07:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[20:11:42] *** ianj|A has quit IRC[20:13:10] *** ianj has quit IRC[20:13:19] *** Megaf has quit IRC[20:16:49] *** marc_smith has joined #haiku[20:17:25] *** Mixer has quit IRC[20:17:45] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[20:18:13] *** odites has quit IRC[20:23:45] *** Mixer has quit IRC[20:24:13] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[20:28:34] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[20:31:34] *** warpdesign_ has quit IRC[20:31:53] *** korli has joined #haiku[20:31:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[20:40:39] *** jvff has quit IRC[20:46:22] *** Mixer has quit IRC[20:46:49] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:00:56] *** l_n has joined #haiku[21:00:57] *** l_n has joined #haiku[21:01:00] *** Beyecixramd has joined #haiku[21:01:19] <l_n> 'ello.[21:01:30] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[21:02:06] <marc_smith> howdy[21:02:19] <helf> hi[21:06:49] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:07:11] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:07:44] *** iway has joined #haiku[21:07:49] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[21:07:55] *** iway has left #haiku[21:08:44] <michaelvo> someone with ticket rights could close ticket #3163? http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/3163[21:08:58] *** ianj_ has joined #haiku[21:09:08] <michaelvo> It's about Quake III[21:09:30] *** ianj_ is now known as ianj[21:10:49] *** l_n has quit IRC[21:14:42] *** MasterStarman has joined #haiku[21:17:37] <CIA-49> pulkomandy * r37462 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/shared/ (5 files): Patch by Jorma Karvonnen : localize BaseTranslator. Thanks ![21:19:25] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:19:31] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[21:19:45] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:20:25] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[21:25:45] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:27:31] *** Beyecixramd has quit IRC[21:31:50] *** l_n has joined #haiku[21:32:27] <l_n> stupid wifi dropped the link...[21:34:32] <l_n> Disreali: you around?[21:36:50] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[21:37:08] * dru345haiku hums quietly 'we be jammin'[21:37:34] <l_n> dru345haiku: you ever find those doom wads?[21:37:43] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:37:57] <dru345haiku> I didn't l_n[21:38:26] <l_n> damn. i was gonna ask if you wanted to play some altdeath games[21:39:14] <dru345haiku> got my own death games going at present - hacking on tracker code :P[21:40:27] <l_n> i've heard that is a slightly less than pleasant experience...[21:40:56] <dru345haiku> I say you heard right[21:41:43] <l_n> isn't tracker eventually going to be rewritten?[21:42:13] <dru345haiku> one day i'm sure it will. but that day isn't soon :P[21:42:17] <l_n> or am i misremembering what i've read...[21:43:07] <dru345haiku> no i'm sure it'll get a rewrite one day or, at least, refactored.[21:43:38] <l_n> it'd be nice to have a thumbnail view for images....[21:43:44] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:44:00] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:44:03] <l_n> if i knew more about c++/programming in general, i'd add it myself.. but, i don't know enough to do it..[21:44:04] <dru345haiku> yeah. would be. at present i'm just looking at fixing bugs.[21:44:25] <dru345haiku> i'd like to add things but, well, bugs first. :)[21:44:35] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[21:47:52] * Disreali has returned[21:47:57] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[21:48:03] *** korli has quit IRC[21:48:11] <Disreali> l_n; you rang?[21:48:19] <Anarchos> dru345haiku if i compile with gcc4 on a gcc2hybrid , is my cc1 file 0 size normal ?[21:48:40] *** Ziusudra has joined #haiku[21:48:50] <Disreali> michaelvo: Quake 3 works on haiku now?[21:49:50] <l_n> Disreali: yeah.. just wanting to play some doom and you're the only one here that i *know* has the right data files :)[21:50:01] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:50:03] <l_n> (except the danzig1 and danzig2 wads)[21:50:04] <dru345> Anarchos i don't compile with gcc4, someone else might know.[21:50:15] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:51:13] <Disreali> l_n; I update revs to r37440 and have not been able to get it to work. I probably forgot something[21:51:46] <Disreali> danzig wads? as in the singer Danzig?[21:52:04] <l_n> no.. some classic dm wads[21:52:18] <l_n> small maps.. what weapons are avail. depends on skill setting..[21:52:49] <l_n> they were some of the local favorites before quake came out and pushed doom2 to the wayside[21:53:53] <Disreali> I'll google them[21:54:40] <Disreali> fyi, Glen Danzig is to what I thought they refered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Danzig[21:54:55] <l_n> yeah.. i'm not sure why they named the wads danzig[21:55:33] <l_n> and remember you have to have a 4h build because of the sdl_mixer dependency[21:56:15] *** Mixer has quit IRC[21:56:28] <Anarchos> i am looking for someone using gcc4 on haiku[21:56:38] <l_n> for?[21:57:05] <Anarchos> l_n my cc1 file is of 0 size[21:57:19] <Anarchos> l_n i want to know if it is normal or not[21:57:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[21:58:27] <michaelvo> @Disreali Yes> please see at Haikuware.com now[21:58:30] <Disreali> DOH!!! sdl dependencies[21:59:28] <Disreali> michaelvo; I fould a Q3 source zip. not sure if will build on Haiku, but I plan to share it anyway[21:59:28] <l_n> the gcc4 cc1's on my system are 8MiB according to the query i just ran[22:00:28] <michaelvo> but Disreali, we already found Q3 sources.. and Haikubot already did gcc2 and gcc4 quake III port for Haiku[22:00:49] <Anarchos> l_n so mine is broken though i installed the R1/alpha2 ![22:00:55] <Disreali> non-programmer question, what is/are cc1?[22:01:07] <Disreali> michaelvo: sweat[22:02:13] <Anarchos> Disreali a part of the gcc compiler[22:02:21] <Disreali> thanks[22:02:55] <l_n> Anarchos: maybe.. try setgcc gcc4 and test it[22:03:50] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:04:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:06:32] <Anarchos> l_n that is what i did ! the gcc2 cc1 is 2M the gcc4 cc1 is 0[22:08:38] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[22:12:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:12:22] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:12:27] <Disreali> in case anyone whats to play doom http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?dir=levels/doom2/deathmatch/d-f/[22:13:23] <Hubert_> not now[22:13:31] <Disreali> :/[22:14:02] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[22:14:32] <Ziusudra> I'm fairly sure my other install is r1a2 and it's gcc4 cc1 files are 8M[22:14:57] <Anarchos> Ziusudra surely i miss something in my install[22:18:04] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[22:18:22] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:18:22] <Anarchos> l_n Ziusudra ok it is repaired :)[22:19:25] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:21:13] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[22:22:48] *** ambroff has quit IRC[22:24:27] <helf> man[22:24:32] <helf> I used to play Doom all the time[22:24:53] <helf> back when I had a 33.6 modem[22:24:56] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[22:25:05] * helf loved the Dwango level packs[22:26:38] <Disreali> I don't remember those[22:27:11] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[22:27:22] * Disreali digs around for his game archives cds[22:27:33] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:27:55] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:28:24] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[22:31:57] *** marc_smith has quit IRC[22:33:56] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:34:14] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:34:39] *** judgen has joined #haiku[22:34:57] * robert_ duels Disreali in Wolfenstein 3-D[22:34:58] <robert_> :p[22:35:40] <Disreali> I never played Wolfenstein3D.[22:35:57] *** largo has quit IRC[22:35:59] <robert_> heh[22:36:06] <Disreali> though, Return to Castle Wolfenstein was great[22:36:08] <robert_> there's a space in that. :p[22:36:19] <Disreali> meh[22:36:45] *** LoganA has joined #haiku[22:40:10] *** largo has joined #haiku[22:40:14] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:40:28] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:42:11] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[22:44:50] *** judgen has quit IRC[22:45:33] *** judgen has joined #haiku[22:46:24] <l_n> helf: chocolate doom is available on haikuware.com now :)[22:48:01] <helf> Rise of the Triad was a lot of fun[22:48:06] <helf> as well as Hexen and Heretic[22:50:01] <CIA-49> anevilyak * r37463 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/ (17 files in 17 dirs): Fix translator builds.[22:50:07] *** raichoo has quit IRC[22:50:31] *** Mixer has quit IRC[22:51:01] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[22:54:23] *** Xeon3D has quit IRC[22:55:39] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[22:57:40] *** acous has quit IRC[22:59:09] *** warpdesign has joined #haiku[22:59:58] *** nisstyre65 has joined #haiku[23:00:32] *** Ziusudra has quit IRC[23:05:07] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:05:33] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:06:04] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:06:44] <l_n> Disreali: you should go d/l DANZIG1.ZIP and DANZIG2.ZIP from doomwadstation so we can have some fun :)[23:06:55] *** luroh has joined #haiku[23:06:59] <Disreali> ok[23:07:04] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[23:07:21] <l_n> (and anyone else that would like to play)[23:07:49] *** Xeon3D[ZzZ] has joined #haiku[23:08:57] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[23:10:18] *** Xeon3D has joined #haiku[23:11:32] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:11:51] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:13:28] <Disreali> l_n; have the wads[23:13:36] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[23:14:34] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:14:40] <l_n> Disreali: i would rename them to all lowercase for convenience[23:15:09] <Disreali> already did[23:15:51] <Disreali> I seem to remember a app or script on bebits that would batch remane to lower case[23:17:37] <helf> http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/beware/Add-Ons/LowerCase.html[23:17:38] <l_n> okay.. add -file /path/to/danzig1.wad /path/to/danzig2.wad to your commandline[23:18:13] <helf> i have whatever the newest addon is that does the same thing on a cd somewhere[23:19:09] <l_n> Disreali: waiting for connection[23:20:00] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:20:21] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:21:54] *** elliottcable is now known as ec[23:24:07] *** kirilla has quit IRC[23:25:35] *** acous has joined #haiku[23:26:21] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:26:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:27:22] <tm512> l_n: weren't you the one porting odamex to haiku?[23:27:56] <l_n> i gave up and went to chocolate doom[23:27:58] <l_n> it works[23:28:05] <tm512> ok[23:28:08] <tm512> cool[23:28:13] <tm512> did it require mods?[23:28:31] <l_n> one edit[23:29:32] <tm512> tell me later, because i want to install haiku on something one of these days[23:31:03] *** Xeon3D[ZzZ] has quit IRC[23:31:08] <l_n> fraggle may add the change to the mainline code[23:33:20] <judgen> Anyone care to amuse me with a debate in politics... (i am running for state governorship in a few days.[23:33:44] <judgen> Can be in private if you want.[23:34:34] <judgen> 60'something days to be moreprecise..[23:34:57] <CIA-49> anevilyak * r37464 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/shared/BaseTranslator.cpp: Fix broken BaseTranslator code that was 100% guaranteed to crash any app making use of Translators.[23:34:59] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:35:35] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:36:11] <kallisti5> judgen: should nixen be impeached for watergate?[23:36:57] <judgen> Nixon was actually the best president to ever run america after the currency went fiat.[23:37:08] <kallisti5> judgen: no u are[23:37:19] <judgen> The US had awsome buying power and almost no unemployment[23:37:30] <kallisti5> judgen: thats what she said[23:37:42] <judgen> =D[23:37:43] * kallisti5 is the best debator evah[23:37:49] <judgen> truly[23:37:52] <kallisti5> sorry.. /me sucks at politics[23:38:04] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[23:38:15] <judgen> But you, as all others have an oppinion of Bush?[23:38:22] <judgen> More or less an asshole[23:38:24] <judgen> =D[23:38:31] <helf> hey judgen[23:38:55] *** Beyecixramd has joined #haiku[23:39:41] <judgen> hey helf[23:39:51] <kallisti5> Haiku has enough politic fights without goverment politics[23:39:59] <judgen> I am working on my debate skills for the election in september[23:40:09] <kallisti5> maybe pro's and cons on how to deal with trollers in the ML?[23:40:23] <kallisti5> or are you looking for just US policy?[23:40:41] <judgen> kallisti5: you can lie, i just need to work on my "see through the crap" skills[23:41:10] <judgen> Does the US have an alection too in september?[23:41:26] *** Trezker has joined #haiku[23:41:32] <helf> no, we have a popularity contest[23:41:33] <helf> big difference[23:41:34] <helf> :p[23:41:43] <judgen> No the governance of the states and the government is to be voted on in Sweden.[23:42:13] <michaelvo> because Sweden is a monarchy still?[23:43:00] <michaelvo> how you think about it? the entire world is republic, democratic, and your country is a monarchy?[23:43:45] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:43:46] <judgen> michaelvo: it is noinally an moarchy and the royal house steals 212m Pounds every tear from the tax payers. Buth they have NO power nuless the elections would turn out 50/50 exactly.[23:44:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:44:24] <judgen> wow wine+ beer and retarded... not a good combination[23:44:43] <judgen> hopefully i will be better tomorrow =P[23:44:47] <michaelvo> I think that is nothing to worry about, because sweden is a very developed nation[23:44:49] <Trezker> we do have parties that want to get rid of monarchy, but it's just little sidenote in their program that noone really wants to do anything about[23:44:49] <helf> doubtful[23:44:50] <helf> ;P[23:45:01] <judgen> helf: That is mean =D[23:45:07] <helf> meh, having a monarchy is pretty cool[23:45:07] <judgen> booohooo[23:45:12] <helf> throw back to the good old days ;)[23:45:15] <judgen> helf: wyhy?[23:45:35] <helf> im kidding[23:45:55] <michaelvo> @judgen, it's strange an royal family without power :D[23:46:05] <judgen> In england i can understand the monarchy as a garant for the basic laws.. (the us could need a constitution king)[23:46:08] <helf> its just for appearences[23:46:09] *** power_user has joined #haiku[23:46:23] <helf> or tradition[23:46:24] <helf> whatever[23:46:45] <judgen> michaelvo: they still get 0.01% of GDP of the 20th richest nation in the world.[23:47:21] <helf> 212m gbp isnt that much[23:47:21] <helf> :p[23:48:01] <judgen> helf: the US need someone to stand up for the constitution. As the Asses and the Elephants does not seem to care the slightest[23:48:07] <helf> true[23:48:21] <judgen> helf: Maybe it is B[23:48:25] * helf puts on his cape and gets his SWORD OF JUSTICE out[23:48:29] <judgen> i dont know anymore[23:48:29] <helf> I'll crusade![23:48:31] <helf> and then get shot[23:48:50] <Trezker> swedish parties have no respect for human rights either[23:48:55] <judgen> I wish the swedish people had the constitution -the gun laws[23:48:58] <Trezker> they don't even understand them[23:49:10] <judgen> Trezker: explain[23:49:17] <helf> I'm still amazaed how the fact the USA is one of the few countries with a blanket free speech clause[23:49:26] <Hodapp> the problem is, most of the people who want to stand up for the Constitution are also utter loonies[23:49:30] <helf> *at the fact[23:49:38] <helf> Hodapp, sadly[23:49:38] <helf> heh[23:49:45] <michaelvo> US federalism is very strange too . since each state can make criminal laws :D[23:49:47] <Trezker> Well, sweden has an organisation that spies on all communication crossing our borders[23:50:04] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:50:16] <judgen> helf: sweden has had free printing since even before the french revolution (since 1681)[23:50:19] <Trezker> they can gather any information and sell it to any nation[23:50:20] <helf> michaelvo, the USA was suposed to be a loosely joined group of states with a federal government with no where NEAR as much power as it has[23:50:35] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:50:37] *** power_user has quit IRC[23:50:37] <judgen> Trezker: I am working against that.[23:50:42] <Hodapp> helf: there's a lot of things that weren't supposed to happen that still did.[23:50:43] <helf> Trezker, the USA does that for all other countries :p[23:50:48] <Hodapp> like black people not being slaves.[23:50:59] <helf> ok?[23:51:03] <judgen> Trezker: I am against FRA in all ways[23:51:05] <helf> why drag slavery into this?[23:51:13] *** Xeon3D has quit IRC[23:51:25] <Hodapp> just saying, the intentions of the 1800s aren't always the best referenc.[23:51:31] <helf> heh[23:51:33] <judgen> WOW! what did i miss.. slavery?[23:51:35] <helf> true enough :)[23:51:47] <helf> human trafficking is still alive and well[23:51:57] *** Beyecixramd has quit IRC[23:52:05] <stpere> helf: yeah, it's a pain, always GO[23:52:06] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:52:07] <stpere> BO*[23:52:15] <helf> heh[23:52:17] <helf> ok, gotta run[23:52:18] <helf> later all[23:52:19] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[23:52:21] <stpere> later[23:52:50] <judgen> Hodapp: I would still like the reference to slavery in the constitution.. and no similarities does not count.[23:52:56] *** Disreali has quit IRC[23:53:06] <stpere> I always do that to conversations :P[23:53:14] <judgen> hehe[23:53:31] <l_n> ..you could play doom with disreali and i (when he comes back)[23:53:52] <Hodapp> judgen: I'm not talking about the text of the Constitution, I'm talking about the intentions and the interpretations of the time.[23:54:08] *** ec is now known as Voldemort[23:54:20] <judgen> There is not a Single reference to slavery in the american constitution.. You can insinuate all you want, but there isn not a written word that is not taken out of context.[23:54:25] *** luroh has joined #haiku[23:54:34] <judgen> =D[23:54:37] <Hodapp> judgen: Who here is claiming that there is?[23:54:56] *** Voldemort is now known as ec[23:54:59] *** ec is now known as elliottcable[23:55:02] <judgen> Hodapp: Sorry i am just making it clear... i am a bit drunk now.[23:56:18] *** Trezker has quit IRC[23:56:36] *** Mixer has quit IRC[23:56:37] <Hodapp> judgen: P.S. Amendment 13 of the Constitution does explicitly mention slavery[23:56:38] <judgen> Did you not pull slavery into the conversation? Even though i am trying to focus on modern issues for my election in september,[23:56:50] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[23:57:07] <judgen> Also an amedment is just that..[23:57:37] <Hodapp> judgen: It is still part of the Constitution.[23:57:39] <judgen> Hope you get a little angry with me..[23:57:45] <judgen> No it isnt[23:58:41] <judgen> The amendments can be altered by the SCOTUS but the constitution can NOT[23:58:42] *** Trezker has joined #haiku[23:58:50] <Hodapp> judgen: Yes. It is. The changes become a part of the Constitution.[23:59:01] <Hodapp> judgen: That is why they're called "amendments".