May 30, 2009 
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May 30, 2009 [00:00:25] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[00:00:25] *** ghane has joined #haiku[00:00:25] *** visari has joined #haiku[00:00:38] <AlienSoldier> oxygene stuf like a link with a similar pic, name if any, global identification[00:01:26] <AlienSoldier> something that can count how many face, color repartition contrast and the like, and find an equivalent on the web[00:07:50] *** nikla|away is now known as nikla[00:08:52] *** RHarmsen has quit IRC[00:16:12] *** korli has quit IRC[00:17:44] *** nibble is now known as nibble\sleep[00:30:24] *** redblue has joined #haiku[00:31:54] *** Megaf_ has quit IRC[00:36:24] *** nibble\sleep has quit IRC[00:38:10] *** wtracy has quit IRC[00:40:59] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[00:46:30] <AlienSoldier> disregard the question someone here gave me a great link[00:50:58] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[00:52:56] *** nikla has quit IRC[00:54:57] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[00:58:24] *** nibble has joined #haiku[01:03:58] *** megaf has quit IRC[01:04:35] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[01:07:19] <megaf> sorry, but, ive made 3 short videos of Haiku running on my EeePC and also a tutorial, if youd like to see, http://megafs.wordpress.com/ if you dont, ignore this please.[01:10:22] <luroh> megaf: i like it, it's a good thing[01:10:31] <rennj> propaganda[01:10:33] <luroh> there can't be too much Haiku[01:11:11] *** philcostin has quit IRC[01:12:23] *** megaf has quit IRC[01:14:24] *** aljen has quit IRC[01:16:42] *** judgen has joined #haiku[01:16:51] <judgen> Howdy[01:16:59] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[01:17:03] <judgen> my game is sloing to beta[01:17:16] <judgen> im drunk[01:17:33] <judgen> bute im simcear, my game is close to beta =)[01:18:09] <judgen> Oh well, whats up in haiku land this month[01:19:12] <judgen> Darn i cant spell at all today it seams[01:19:16] <judgen> seems[01:19:33] *** RandomInsano has joined #haiku[01:24:22] <stpere> judgen: hi[01:28:18] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[01:34:28] <megaf> wird, both BeOS and ZETA doesnt run on QEMU[01:34:50] <AlienSoldier> megaf got it on youtube also? there is only here i can get video in R5[01:35:33] *** cherrypa1 has quit IRC[01:37:57] <adamk> Zeta does here.[01:38:23] <megaf> adamk: in QEMU?[01:38:30] <adamk> megaf: Yep.[01:38:36] <megaf> Oo[01:38:44] <megaf> what about BeOS R5?[01:39:14] <megaf> hey, how to burn bin + cue?[01:39:58] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[01:40:03] <adamk> megaf: Never tried it.[01:49:30] <miqlas> megaf, open the cue in Your burning app (for example: nero)[01:49:41] <miqlas> It will make the dirty work for You.[01:51:14] <megaf> miqlas: arght, im not a windows user...[01:51:26] <megaf> are you?[01:52:46] <megaf> however, it wordked. :)[01:54:16] <miqlas> :)[01:54:45] <miqlas> there is nero for linux too.[01:55:06] <judgen> What are we discussing[01:56:28] <megaf> everything[01:56:30] <megaf> :)[01:56:53] <judgen> megaf neroflinux is just a familiar gui for dvd+rw and all the other free tools that they use[01:57:48] <megaf> i need an empy cd[01:57:50] <thotypous> k3b[01:58:27] <judgen> thotypous dont badmouth k3b[01:59:40] <judgen> im off.[01:59:52] <judgen> luv e yeah[01:59:56] <judgen> hahaha[02:00:04] <judgen> ql[02:00:11] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:00:43] <BePhantom> megaf[02:01:11] <thotypous> I will never badmouth k3b, it's the best CD app I have ever used[02:02:55] <BePhantom> haiku needs a cd burning app[02:02:58] <BePhantom> :)[02:03:42] <megaf> i has[02:04:03] <BePhantom> which one?[02:07:29] * BePhantom waits for megaf's answer :D[02:07:51] <megaf> Oo[02:07:54] <megaf> it has*[02:07:55] <thotypous> i has chezburger[02:08:10] <megaf> Oo[02:08:17] <megaf> not,[02:08:21] <BePhantom> megaf, what's the name of the app then?[02:08:24] <megaf> there are no cd burner app[02:08:36] <megaf> im making confusion with BeOS[02:08:40] <megaf> and ZETA[02:08:44] <dwarfyperson> yeah it does, the one BePhantom wrote[02:08:49] <dwarfyperson> :P[02:08:55] <megaf> kkkkkkkkkkkk[02:09:01] <megaf> kkkkkkkkk = heheheheh[02:09:07] <BePhantom> :D[02:09:31] <rennj> dd[02:09:38] <rennj> i use to do dvd on beos[02:09:47] <BePhantom> there's Helios but it's very old and is privative software[02:09:49] <rennj> dvd+rw-tools would have been nice[02:09:59] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[02:10:03] <rennj> cdtools was fine, but schilly had the keyfile crap[02:12:26] <BePhantom> well, it will eventually have one, releasing alpha, wifi support and fixing the most important bugs are the top priorities atm (i think)[02:12:31] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[02:12:59] <rennj> http://i31.tinypic.com/fc2lpv.jpg i was doing striped usb keychains[02:13:03] <rennj> hehe[02:13:09] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[02:13:09] <rennj> my dual amd box[02:13:32] <rennj> 5v line on tyan tiger atx connection fried[02:13:46] <BePhantom> I'm looking forward to mmadia's JoystickUtilizer app,i really want to play Super Mario with my gamepad :)[02:13:50] <rennj> known issue with those boards[02:13:59] <mmadia> my what?[02:14:13] <BePhantom> Joystick Utilizer[02:14:26] <mmadia> is that something from OSDrawer?[02:14:32] <BePhantom> yes[02:14:37] <mmadia> aaah[02:14:40] <BePhantom> :D[02:14:41] <BePhantom> http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/show/joystickutilizer[02:14:44] <mmadia> it's not actually my software..[02:15:09] <mmadia> a person, Werner Freytag originally wrote it. he gave me permission to re-license it as MIT and host it on OSDrawer.[02:15:34] <BePhantom> does it work in haiku?[02:15:53] *** wildur has quit IRC[02:17:17] <BePhantom> mmadia, sorry then, i thought you were the main developer :D my mistake[02:18:08] <mmadia> it hasn't been ported to haiku yet :/[02:18:29] <BePhantom> mario can wait :)[02:18:45] <stpere> evenin'g guys[02:18:54] <stpere> yes, I know, no ' in there[02:18:58] <stpere> :)[02:19:00] <BePhantom> i cant even make my gamepad work under ubuntu, that's crazy :D[02:19:08] <stpere> keep you ' out they always tell me[02:19:28] *** helf2 has joined #haiku[02:19:44] <BePhantom> bonsoir mr stpere[02:19:49] <helf2> yo BePhantom[02:19:50] <stpere> I'm happy, I found a mjor security breach in my client's website[02:19:54] <stpere> not done by me[02:20:04] <stpere> and my client is happy that I found it[02:20:12] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30912 /haiku/trunk/data/system/data/licenses/GNU LGPL v3: Patch by Matt Madia: Added GNU LGPL v3 license.[02:20:30] <BePhantom> stpere, is that security breach Windows Vista?[02:20:34] <BePhantom> :D[02:20:38] <stpere> no[02:20:47] <BePhantom> hallo helf2 :D how you doing mate?[02:20:52] <stpere> include $_GET["sec"].".php";[02:20:57] <stpere> without any check[02:21:02] <stpere> or something very similar[02:21:08] <stpere> I could load a remote PHP file[02:21:11] <helf2> good, you?[02:21:13] <stpere> from an other domain[02:21:25] <stpere> and get it run with full write access[02:21:39] <helf2> wow[02:21:42] <helf2> nice breach[02:21:58] <BePhantom> helf2, freezing but i'm ok, i think i'll survive :D[02:22:45] <stpere> that website was serving trojans[02:22:55] <stpere> and they wondered how it could end up there[02:22:59] <helf2> lol[02:23:31] <gordonjcp> evening[02:23:41] <stpere> hi gordon[02:23:55] <gordonjcp> stpere: heh, that's just PHP all over though ;-)[02:24:05] <stpere> :)[02:24:14] <gordonjcp> man, it's basically too hot to sleep[02:24:21] <stpere> well, you can replace the whole site with anything[02:24:24] <helf2> gordonjcp: where are you?[02:24:31] <gordonjcp> Scotland[02:24:36] <helf2> and its too hot??[02:24:37] <stpere> you have fopen and stuff[02:24:49] <BePhantom> gordonjcp, wanna trade places? it's damn freezing here :D[02:24:54] <gordonjcp> yeah, it's been >20C all day and even now it's 15C[02:25:00] <gordonjcp> 1:30am and it's 15C, ffs[02:25:01] <helf2> heh[02:25:05] <helf2> where in scotland are you?[02:25:18] <helf2> dude[02:25:20] <helf2> thats only 59f[02:25:24] <helf2> thats not hot! :P[02:25:25][02:25:28] <helf2> thats comfortable[02:25:43] <gordonjcp> helf2: currently Glasgow[02:25:44] <BePhantom> haha, you clearly don't know what *hot* is :D[02:25:50] <helf2> 15-25c is my comfort zone :)[02:26:18] <BePhantom> helf2, well, not 15 for me but 20/25 is nice :)[02:26:32] <helf2> well, anything from 0-30 is ok by me[02:26:42] <BePhantom> :P[02:27:03] <helf2> but its been like 30-35c here lately[02:27:04] <helf2> sucks[02:27:13] <gordonjcp> BePhantom: bear in mind I'm probably one of the most northerly people here[02:27:17] <helf2> 30c is pushing it for my liking[02:27:22] <gordonjcp> jees, if it got to 30C here I'd move[02:27:24][02:27:54] <BePhantom> gordonjcp, here we reach temperatures of 40 in summer[02:27:57] <helf2> gordonjcp: my prefer it to stay around 0-10c[02:28:06] <gordonjcp> helf2: yeah[02:28:10] <gordonjcp> BePhantom: screw that[02:28:11] <helf2> yeah, it hit 40+ here[02:28:37][02:28:45] <BePhantom> kinda cold actually[02:28:54] <helf2> our temp temps vary between -15c to 45c[02:28:58] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[02:29:33] <gordonjcp> helf2: where are you?[02:29:47] <helf2> gordonjcp: alabama, USA[02:29:52] <helf2> gordonjcp: northern alabama[02:30:10] <stpere> helf2: that doesn't make it less worse :P[02:30:11] <gordonjcp> cool[02:30:11] <stpere> jk[02:30:12] <helf2> between may-aug it can be bad[02:30:16] <helf2> ha[02:30:27] <helf2> the high temps dont bother me as much as the humidity levels do[02:30:28] <gordonjcp> that's quite some temperature swing[02:30:37] <gordonjcp> yeah, it's very humid here right now[02:30:50] <helf2> up until it gets to the "rainy season", the humidity stays between 15-35% which is nice.. right now its staying between 70-100%[02:30:52] *** glootech has quit IRC[02:30:59] <BePhantom> +1 for humidity sucks[02:31:00] <BePhantom> :D[02:31:05] <helf2> gordonjcp: this past winter it hit 4f, record low here[02:31:17] <helf2> and its already hit 90f and its 3 more months till the hottest month[02:31:32] <gordonjcp> I don't really have much of a handle on f scale[02:31:44] <BePhantom> me neither :D[02:31:56] * gordonjcp -> bed[02:32:06] <stpere> night![02:32:18] <stpere> count the sheeps :)[02:32:29] <BePhantom> night Scotsman![02:33:09] <helf2> night[02:33:35] *** scottmc has quit IRC[02:33:44] <BePhantom> i hate hot weather :D[02:33:47] <helf2> 4f = -15.5c, 90f = 32c[02:34:49] <BePhantom> tomorrow is the H day, the first haiku meeting in south america :)[02:35:02] <helf2> nice[02:35:19] <BePhantom> i think, at least is the first in my country :D[02:35:52] <BePhantom> we'll take pictures ;)[02:35:54] *** redblue has quit IRC[02:36:00] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30913 /haiku/trunk/configure:[02:36:00] <CIA-9> On Darwin/Mac OS X use diskutil to determine if the volume we configure on is a[02:36:00] <CIA-9> case-sensitive one. If not, print out a message and a link to the guide that[02:36:00] <CIA-9> describes how to set one up.[02:36:25] <helf2> cool :D[02:38:03] <rennj> http://www.erh.noaa.gov/cle/climate/eri/records/eritop10temp.html data[02:38:23] <BePhantom> helf2, you live on the countryside?[02:38:48] <helf2> kinda[02:38:58] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30914 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages:[02:38:58] <CIA-9> Patch by Scott McCreary: Repackaged flex and jam optional packages (fixed[02:38:58] <CIA-9> license location).[02:39:08] <helf2> smallish city. its sprawling with a smalldowntown and i live in the suburbs.. i guess you could call it[02:39:21] <helf2> i have 3.25 acres of land and im on county property, not city.[02:39:34] <helf2> thats 1.31 hectares[02:39:49] * gordonjcp has 10 acres a bit further north-west[02:40:00] <gordonjcp> I'd quite like to move up there, but the job situation isn't great[02:40:01] <BePhantom> gordonjcp, go back to sleep :D[02:40:01] <gordonjcp> that said[02:40:04] <gordonjcp> it's not great here[02:40:08] <helf2> heh[02:40:11] <helf2> i wish we had mroe laqnd[02:40:13] <helf2> *more land[02:41:49] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[02:41:59] <BePhantom> well, the only land i have is in a small flowerpot :D[02:42:08] <rennj> http://i34.tinypic.com/e5hcnc.jpg my little plot[02:42:36] <rennj> its cut off at the top left[02:42:47] <BePhantom> aerial shot ftw :)[02:43:02] <BePhantom> looks nice[02:43:04] <rennj> 900x4900[02:43:08] <rennj> 75acres[02:43:33] <rennj> 75 acres = 30 hectare[02:43:44] <rennj> almost mile long basically[02:44:07] <rennj> to bad its in canada and im in u.s.a[02:44:10] <rennj> heh[02:45:28] <BePhantom> sounds like a good excuse to settle in canada ;)[02:45:50] <helf2> nice rennj[02:45:55] <rennj> im going up this month[02:45:58] <rennj> get well put in[02:46:06] <rennj> i was up last year[02:46:29] <rennj> least i plan to go up[02:47:16] *** UiX has quit IRC[02:49:28] <rennj> i was tempted at the time on buying 200acres in maine for 80k[02:49:41] <rennj> canada was 70acres for 20k[02:49:44] <rennj> grr[02:49:46] <rennj> 75[02:49:50] <rennj> hehe[02:49:59] <rennj> taxes on woodlot is 50 bucks a year[02:50:25] <rennj> here in pa, taxes on 1/2 acre easly 4k a year[02:50:30] <helf2> ouch[02:50:32] <rennj> plus local school tax[02:50:36] <helf2> ouch[02:50:46] <helf2> our property tax is like $600/y[02:51:08] <umccullough> 4k/year for 1/2 acre sounds like where i live ;)[02:51:11] <rennj> 12k in boston for school tax my friend pays[02:51:15] <helf2> lol umccullough[02:51:19] <umccullough> and i'm not in city limits[02:51:30] <helf2> umccullough: im county surrounded on all sides by city[02:51:31] <helf2> its great[02:51:34] <helf2> we have no zoning rules[02:51:42] <umccullough> crazy[02:51:42] <helf2> i could have cattle on my plot if i wanted and a skyrise[02:51:45] <umccullough> grandfathered in?[02:52:08] <helf2> the city came through and ASKED if people wanted to be city when they annexed the area in the 1960s[02:52:13] <helf2> whoever owned this at the time refused[02:52:18] <helf2> i want to high five them[02:52:22] <umccullough> nice[02:52:34] <umccullough> do you have city water/sewer still?[02:52:35] <helf2> we have a well and everything :)[02:52:38] <helf2> nope[02:52:38] <umccullough> ah[02:52:42] <umccullough> guess that answers that ;)[02:52:50] <helf2> the city wants like $35k to put us on city water[02:52:55] <helf2> no joke[02:53:02] * umccullough would middle-finger them[02:53:23] <helf2> they'd have to cut through the road, run the piping, redo the road, then we have to pay a certain percentage of something for every year that we were ounty and not city[02:53:25] <helf2> its stupid[02:53:32] <helf2> so we told them to bugger off and redid the well[02:55:09] <helf2> bbl[03:02:27] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[03:03:28] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[03:07:35] *** nvmd has joined #haiku[03:08:17] *** nvmd has left #haiku[03:21:45] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[03:23:04] *** jprostko has quit IRC[03:23:36] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30915 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/ (OptionalPackageDependencies OptionalPackages):[03:23:36] <CIA-9> Patch by Scott McCreary: Added/updated optional packages for APR[-util],[03:23:36] <CIA-9> cdrecord, libiconv, libxml2, nano, neon, OpenSSH, python, sqlite, subversion.[03:23:45] <mmadia> hot damn![03:25:15] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[03:28:57] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[03:35:44] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[03:39:43] *** megaf has quit IRC[03:43:58] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[03:44:19] *** jprostko has quit IRC[03:49:15] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[03:51:27] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[03:52:33] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:52:37] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[03:54:01] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[03:56:18] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[03:56:54] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[04:01:24] *** megaf has quit IRC[04:03:41] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[04:04:41] *** Master199 has quit IRC[04:11:23] <mmadia> scottmc : how's the updates to "Notes" seem : http://www.haiku-os.org/node/2525 ?[04:11:33] *** redblue has joined #haiku[04:12:18] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[04:13:18] *** RandomInsano has quit IRC[04:17:50] *** helf2 has quit IRC[04:25:25] *** SiCuTDeUx__ has joined #haiku[04:35:59] <mmadia> oooh, can someone try doing an @alpha-raw of r30910 ?[04:38:29] <jprostko> what gcc version?[04:38:39] <mmadia> 2 :)[04:39:35] <mmadia> oh, nevermind...[04:39:46] <mmadia> ~> checkfs /haiku_obj/[04:39:46] <mmadia> checked 33860 nodes, 0 blocks not allocated, 0 blocks already set, 523417 blocks could be freed[04:40:12] <mmadia> once again, i love my partitioning scheme :D[04:41:47] <jprostko> i'll reboot after i write some emails and give it a go[04:42:01] <jprostko> why do you ask?[04:43:33] <mmadia> the build system was complaing to me -- out of space, read-only FS[04:43:41] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[04:43:47] <mmadia> but it seems my partition is toasted.[04:46:02] <jprostko> cross or native build?[04:46:31] <mmadia> i think this is a native build[04:47:01] <jprostko> okay, so it's not some kind of permissions issue with linux/bsd then[04:48:20] <mmadia> ah, i wasnt' sure if you were asking if this installation of haiku was built natively or crossed.[04:50:27] <jprostko> i meant the @alpha-raw one[04:50:37] <jprostko> thought you were on your bsd box, but wasn't sure[04:50:58] <mmadia> ssh'd into it.[04:51:14] <mmadia> but now i'm going to try updating teh ReleaseBuildProfiles from within Haiku.[04:51:17] *** hdanak has left #haiku[04:52:24] <mmadia> in r30875, ingo added a variable HAIKU_ADD_OPTIONAL_PACKAGES , which i want to try.[04:52:57] <jprostko> yeah, i didn't geat around to trying it[05:00:43] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[05:01:07] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[05:02:10] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[05:02:33] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[05:06:03] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[05:07:51] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[05:07:55] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[05:08:48] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[05:09:03] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[05:09:35] <MegafEee> Hi all[05:10:05] <mmadia> howdy[05:22:40] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:24:35] *** scottmc has quit IRC[05:35:38] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[05:39:21] *** thotypous has quit IRC[05:40:31] *** luroh has quit IRC[05:40:39] *** luroh has joined #haiku[05:48:13] *** senryu has joined #Haiku[05:50:00] *** senryu has joined #Haiku[06:11:35] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[06:11:44] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[06:20:19] *** senryu has joined #Haiku[06:23:36] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[06:29:51] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[06:30:54] <Carbamide> Good evening[06:35:43] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[06:37:08] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[06:39:11] *** Androo has joined #haiku[06:50:46] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[06:53:30] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[06:56:53] * JonathanThompson poits Carbamide[07:06:48] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[07:10:27] *** jprostko has quit IRC[07:20:23] *** paul0 has quit IRC[07:24:14] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[07:26:45] *** robink has joined #haiku[07:27:18] <robink> I'm unable to run the VMWare images in the VMWare Player. It complains that it can't find the .vmdk (which is in the same directory as the .vmx, and properly named), and when I point it to the .vmdk it says it still cannot find it.[07:27:29] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[07:32:09] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[07:40:33] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[07:44:41] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[07:45:00] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:57:06] *** cherrypa2 has quit IRC[08:07:52] *** scottmc has quit IRC[08:09:29] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[08:19:49] *** umccullough_aa1 has quit IRC[08:25:17] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[08:39:13] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[08:43:30] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[08:45:31] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[08:51:35] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[09:10:07] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[09:20:34] *** miqlas has quit IRC[09:20:38] *** nikla has joined #haiku[09:24:40] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[09:27:27] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[09:34:48] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[09:37:20] *** wildur has quit IRC[09:37:30] *** wildur_ has joined #Haiku[09:39:05] *** mmadia has quit IRC[09:39:30] *** glootech__ has joined #haiku[09:39:58] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[09:51:19] *** glootech_ has quit IRC[09:59:18] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[10:01:35] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[10:02:09] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[10:03:09] *** SprMa has left #haiku[10:04:42] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[10:11:46] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[10:21:52] *** tqh has joined #haiku[10:22:33] *** scottmc has quit IRC[10:22:35] *** VinDuv|away is now known as VinDuv[10:27:13] *** idefix_dommel has joined #haiku[10:28:16] *** redblue has quit IRC[10:35:10] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[10:39:42] *** korli has joined #haiku[10:39:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[10:41:12] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[10:41:17] <Hugen_> hi all[10:44:04] *** mattlacey_ has joined #haiku[10:48:47] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:49:56] *** Kernel86_ is now known as Kernel86[10:50:05] *** idefix_dommel has quit IRC[10:51:14] *** idefix_dommel has joined #haiku[10:51:26] *** idefix_dommel has left #haiku[10:53:00] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[10:56:01] *** mattlacey_ has quit IRC[10:58:25] *** redblue has joined #haiku[11:00:10] <CIA-9> stippi * r30916 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/ReleaseBuildProfiles:[11:00:10] <CIA-9> Applied patch by Matt Madia: Enlarge the image size from 400 to 500 MB, since[11:00:10] <CIA-9> the current optional packages require this much.[11:08:51] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[11:14:19] <CIA-9> stippi * r30917 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackageDependencies:[11:14:19] <CIA-9> Patch by Matt Madia: The DevelopmentBase optional package now[11:14:19] <CIA-9> depends on CDRecord for mkisofs, which is used for building the[11:14:19] <CIA-9> *-cd targets. Thanks![11:19:40] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[11:29:31] *** nikla has quit IRC[11:32:03] *** glootech__ has quit IRC[11:32:22] *** glootech__ has joined #haiku[11:32:34] *** nikla has joined #haiku[11:35:37] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[11:36:40] *** tqh has quit IRC[11:47:53] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[11:49:26] *** tqh has joined #haiku[11:52:24] *** glootech__ is now known as glootech[11:57:20] *** miqlas has quit IRC[12:08:11] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[12:11:16] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[12:11:19][12:11:23] <miqlas> Sorry..[12:24:43] *** nikla has quit IRC[12:30:55] <Hugen_> hi miqlas[12:31:27] <miqlas> Hello Hugen_![12:31:47] *** Hugen_ is now known as Hugen[12:35:44] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[12:36:39] <CIA-9> stippi * r30918 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/sudoku/SudokuView.cpp:[12:36:39] <CIA-9> Applied patch by Stef Busking: Adjust the current keyboard focus field along[12:36:39] <CIA-9> with the mouse, so that switching between using the keyboard and mouse is more[12:36:39] <CIA-9> fluent. Fixes ticket #3971.[12:37:12] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[12:39:39] *** aljen has joined #haiku[12:39:54] <aljen> hey[12:40:08] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[12:40:27] *** SprMa has left #haiku[12:41:01] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[12:41:04] <gr00ber> HEEEELLLOOO[12:44:10] <ziomatto> korli: hello. in fs.cpp:166 and String.cpp:2121,2133,2145 there are some "invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’"[12:50:19] *** tqh has quit IRC[12:54:50] <korli> ziomatto: which String.cpp[12:57:16] <ziomatto> korli: src/build/libbe/support/String.cpp[13:04:25] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[13:06:54] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[13:07:31] <CIA-9> korli * r30919 /haiku/trunk/src/build/ (libbe/support/String.cpp libroot/fs.cpp): fixed usage of char* when const char* is expected, reported by ziomatto[13:07:36] <korli> ziomatto: done[13:09:21] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[13:09:43] *** Tekn0Mac has joined #haiku[13:10:51] <Tekn0Mac> morning[13:10:52] <Tekn0Mac> all[13:11:22] * Tekn0Mac slaps Teknomancer about a bit with a trout large a lot bit.. .argh[13:11:26] <Tekn0Mac> :P[13:13:33] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[13:15:16] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[13:16:05] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[13:19:52] *** iMax_pp has joined #haiku[13:21:50] *** VinDuv|away is now known as VinDuv[13:25:20] *** tqh has joined #haiku[13:29:01] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[13:31:05] <ziomatto> korli: thank you.[13:33:14] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[13:33:25] *** gr00ber is now known as loober[13:34:31] <CIA-9> korli * r30920 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/View.cpp:[13:34:31] <CIA-9> * merged Frame and Hidden properties (set and get) (bug #3493).[13:34:31] <CIA-9> * changed Hidden set property to not check the current hidden state, as it's not exactly related.[13:40:18] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[13:41:59] <warpdesign> hi there ![13:42:06] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[13:50:17] *** TheNerd has quit IRC[13:56:52] <iMax_pp> Hi there.[13:57:20] <iMax_pp> Does anyone incur an issue when trying to open a file in Icon-O-Matic?[13:58:14] <iMax_pp> When opening ( or even appending ) a png, a jpg or even a svg, I get this error:[13:58:15] <iMax_pp> MessageImporter::Import() - error unflattening icon archive: Data is not a message.[13:59:44] <iMax_pp> So I'd like to know if the problem is mine, before filling a ticket in the bug tracker.[13:59:47] <loober> what is it with Haiku and the obsession for icons?[14:00:29] <iMax_pp> When you write an application it's something useful to have icons, such as in the toolbar...[14:01:21] <iMax_pp> And the haiku's way is to include them in ressource files ( so that they'll be included in the application ).[14:01:47] <loober> even the Haiku Tech talk on google is focus on the fucking icons[14:01:51] <loober> get the damn OS stable instead[14:01:53] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[14:06:20] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[14:07:12] <oxygene> loober: so people who don't have the knowledge to stabilize an OS, but have design skills should rather sit around and wait?[14:07:27] <loober> the project should refocus[14:08:02] <loober> it still won't run properly on my new smp machine[14:08:53] <adamk> And unless one of the developers can reproduce the problem, or you can debug it well enough for them to identify the problem, it may not work for a very long time.[14:09:07] <loober> correct[14:09:14] <adamk> I hardly think that has to do with the focus of the project.[14:09:17] *** Hugen has quit IRC[14:09:19] <loober> it has[14:09:24] <loober> it's fucking unstable[14:09:35] <adamk> For you, perhaps.[14:09:37] <loober> i have submitted the serial output more than once to core devs, but nobody cares[14:09:48] <loober> i even know what driver causes the bug on one machine[14:10:27] <iMax_pp> So feel free to correct this driver.[14:10:32] <loober> nope[14:14:52] <oxygene> why not?[14:17:17] <CIA-9> korli * r30921 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/coreutils/src/copy.c: copy attributes on symlinks (only testable with -P, --no-dereference), fixed bug #3539[14:17:45][14:18:01] <loober> it's the pcnet nic driver, by the way[14:18:07] <iMax_pp> If your problem isn't reproductible by other developers it won't be easy for them to correct it. That's why I suggest you to help them by contributing. (isn't it the purpose of the open-source?)[14:18:18] <loober> nah[14:18:44] <loober> 2 cups coconut milk[14:18:45] <loober> 3 cups pineapple juice[14:18:49] <loober> 2 cups crushed pineapple[14:18:52] <loober> 1/2 cup shredded coconut, sweetened[14:18:56] <loober> 1 cup rum, preferably golden[14:19:00] <loober> 1/2 cup sugar[14:19:02] *** Barrett` has joined #haiku[14:19:04] <loober> 1 teaspoon clear vanilla[14:19:08] <loober> Combine all ingredients in a large bowl. Blend in batches using a blender. Serve over ice.[14:19:15] <loober> there you go[14:19:16] <loober> CHEEEERS[14:19:52] *** loober is now known as gr00ber[14:20:06] <oxygene> gr00ber: please submit your support contract number[14:20:11] <oxygene> ;)[14:20:14] <gr00ber> okay[14:20:24] <gordonjcp> maybe haiku would run on your SMP machine if you weren't drinking a girly drink[14:20:24] <gr00ber> 10589137608912376458017946509148375490138723[14:20:34] <gr00ber> gordonjcp, faggot OS's requires faggot drinks[14:20:44] <gr00ber> hm, didn't help[14:20:47] * gr00ber sips some more[14:21:00] <gr00ber> w00t[14:21:02] <gr00ber> http://www.chinaontrade.com/iphone-4g-spare-parts-c-69.html[14:21:03] <oxygene> sorry, that support contract expired[14:21:07] <gr00ber> crap[14:21:13] <gr00ber> ich bin d00med[14:26:13] *** iMax_pp has quit IRC[14:30:19] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30922 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/network/dns/irs/lcl_sv.cpp:[14:30:19] <CIA-9> * Removed unused find_own_image().[14:30:19] <CIA-9> * sv_rewind(): Init the cookie to 0 before using it for get_next_image_info()[14:30:19] <CIA-9> iteration. This could cause the function not to find the libnetwork path and[14:30:19] <CIA-9> thus fail to open the "services" attribute. 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Otherwise we bypass the cache of the[16:36:21] <CIA-9> upper layer, degrading performance qutie a bit.[16:37:36] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[16:43:23] *** Travissimo_ has joined #haiku[16:44:00] <Travissimo_> Hullo, room[16:49:43] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[16:53:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:53:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[17:01:42] *** rotordotorklos has joined #haiku[17:06:59] *** rotordotorklos has quit IRC[17:10:41] *** Kernel86 has joined #Haiku[17:12:39] *** zizban has joined #haiku[17:14:40] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:21:20] *** Barrett`_ has joined #haiku[17:22:06] <philcostin> reading the BeBook, I can't seem to get my application to close when clicking the close button. I've implemented bool MyApplication::QuitRequested() {return true;} but it doesn't quit. Any ideas?[17:22:45] <philcostin> (Also tried posting a message to the window and telling that to quit first)[17:23:47] <HeTo> the main window's QuitRequested should call the application's QuitRequested method IIRC[17:24:09] <philcostin> Thanks HeTo, I'll check it out[17:24:14] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[17:33:37] *** Barrett` has quit IRC[17:40:52] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[17:57:32] <Travissimo_> generated/objects/linux/lib/libroot_build.so: undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'[17:57:40] <Travissimo_> What's up with this? Anybody?[17:57:50] *** Kernel86_ has joined #Haiku[17:59:36] *** nibble has quit IRC[17:59:47] *** nibble has joined #haiku[17:59:50] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[18:02:40] *** Travissimo_ has left #haiku[18:02:40] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[18:03:50] *** Kokito has quit IRC[18:07:30] *** lorenzo64 has joined #haiku[18:15:08] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:18:30] *** luroh has quit IRC[18:18:33] *** luroh has joined #haiku[18:18:40] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[18:22:28] <mmlr> philcostin: you want to add B_QUIT_ON_WINDOW_CLOSE to your window flags[18:22:54] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:22:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:23:14] <philcostin> mmlr: thanks, I logged into haiku-dev in the end and AnEvilYak suggested that too :)[18:23:27] <mmlr> ah, I see[18:23:41] <philcostin> just trying to add the menu bar to the window now :P[18:24:03] <mmlr> yeah, the interface kit has it's own share of pitfals[18:24:27] <philcostin> It's probably OK for someone that's already clued up on it[18:24:34] <philcostin> it looks very clean to me[18:24:39] <philcostin> just need some more practice[18:24:50] *** arigayas_Zzz has left #haiku[18:30:33] * philcostin is away: back later[18:33:16] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[18:35:06] *** mmlr_ has joined #haiku[18:35:16] *** mmlr has quit IRC[18:35:19] *** mmlr_ is now known as mmlr[18:36:39] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[18:37:02] *** Kernel86 has joined #Haiku[18:37:04] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[18:42:53] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[18:43:53] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[18:44:57] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[18:52:34] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[19:01:54] <CIA-9> stippi * r30926 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/sudoku/SudokuView.cpp:[19:01:54] <CIA-9> I messed up the patch from ticket #3971, because I thought I could simplify it.[19:01:54] <CIA-9> Sorry about that! This is now like in the original patch and fixes the ticket[19:01:54] <CIA-9> for real.[19:02:50] *** dwarfyperson has quit IRC[19:03:42] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[19:16:08] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:17:53] <mmu_man> pfoetchen how goes it ?[19:18:21] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30927 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/layers/write_overlay/write_overlay.cpp:[19:18:21] <CIA-9> Make reading the write_overlay more efficient. Instead of always reading the[19:18:21] <CIA-9> original file and then overwriting it with what we have in memory, just linearly[19:18:21] <CIA-9> fill the buffer, closing gaps between our buffers with original file content as[19:18:21] <CIA-9> needed.[19:18:58] *** zizban has quit IRC[19:19:24] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[19:24:11] <CIA-9> zooey * r30928 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp:[19:24:11] <CIA-9> Fixed bug in BTextView reported by Matt:[19:24:11] <CIA-9> * when selecting via mouse, the caret position now follows the direction of[19:24:11] <CIA-9> the selection - which is less surprising than not moving the caret at all[19:24:27] <mmu_man> [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] m68k: add partial Motorola 680x0 support[19:24:29] <mmu_man> w00t[19:25:38] <pfoetchen> mmu_man: did not do so much because there was some unexpected stuff to do for university... but I began reading on ARM-MMU stuff[19:26:00] *** mmadia has quit IRC[19:26:25] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:26:34] <mmu_man> do you have a diff for buildtools I could try ?[19:27:48] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:28:29] *** Svarthandske has joined #haiku[19:28:49] <mmu_man> do you check qemu-devel ?[19:29:05] <mmu_man> there are lots of arm changes there[19:29:25] <umccullough_aa1> reminds me...did you ever apply that patch that fixed gcc4 for m68k?[19:30:12] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[19:31:39] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[19:32:00] <pfoetchen> I will submit a new patch soon[19:37:23] <umccullough_aa1> pfoetchen, do you still have USE_GAS in the tm_defines for config.gcc ?[19:38:04] <umccullough_aa1> it seems to have been deprecated[19:39:36] <pfoetchen> I used that because I had some problem with gas but I don't think I still need them[19:39:56] *** stavrosLinux has joined #haiku[19:43:21] *** mmadia has quit IRC[19:44:50] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:49:23] *** mmlr_ has joined #haiku[19:49:24] *** mmlr has quit IRC[19:49:41] *** mmlr_ is now known as mmlr[19:51:16] *** stavrosLinux has left #haiku[20:00:12] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[20:02:38] <mmu_man> umccullough_aa1 which was it ?[20:05:01] <thotypous> pfoetchen: are you the ARM guy? :)[20:05:38] <geist> arm mmu isn't too bad[20:05:48] <geist> especially armv7 mmu[20:05:57] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[20:05:58] <thotypous> hi geist[20:06:00] <geist> it's about like x86, but with some nice things that x86 should do[20:06:01] <thotypous> plop mmu_man[20:07:10] <umccullough_aa1> mmu_man, it fixed the tm_defines in config.gccc[20:07:16] <umccullough_aa1> hang on, i'll find it[20:08:31] *** mmlr has quit IRC[20:09:38] <umccullough_aa1> mmu_man, here it is pasted from my email (so it wraps): http://haiku.pastebin.com/m2c2e6c08[20:09:51] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:11:07] * umccullough_aa1 has a duck sleeping on his stomach[20:11:34] <gr00ber> Hello mmadia,PuddingM,nn,tehdwarf,ziomatto,stefan,umccullo,AlexFors,raichoo,Kernel86,revol,ishmael,chatzill,expensiv,voodoo,barrett,pac,sys2,niklasla,asdf,cherrypi,glootech,arjen,543dba14 and Darkness[20:11:35] <gr00ber> And Teknoman,pfoetche,wildemar,aljen,HAIKU,ingenu,wildur,robink,andrew,Hai,u,jmayfiel,sicutdeu,darkness,nils,ghane,Bumphead,helf,realname,rkbm,umccullo,Administ,clay,jmayfiel,pybot,Jonathan,addos,orz,A,vant,jigoku_a,jigoku_a,gordonjc and alexbl[20:11:36] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[20:11:39] <gr00ber> And rrg,rennj,angel,beta,surround,ram,sandwich,droden,mixer,thebolt,greg,andguent,malmis,us,r,Katisu,Vampyre,geist,CIA,tic,patrick,me,lauri,mazon,andre,stpere,echelog,kth5,kallisti,stef,NeonLich,someone,root,blub,servi,es.,henkka,ross,cnuke and tommy[20:11:44] <gr00ber> i luv you all[20:11:46] <gr00ber> ta ta[20:11:54] *** gr00ber has left #haiku[20:12:03] <johndrinkwater> random[20:12:12] <umccullough_aa1> no, just a troll :)[20:12:23] *** Barrett`_ has quit IRC[20:12:53] *** Barrett`_ has joined #haiku[20:15:46] *** glootech has quit IRC[20:16:01] *** mmlr has joined #haiku[20:17:50] <geist> umccullough_aa1: took me a sec to realize you *hadn't* eaten the duck[20:18:02] * philcostin is back (gone 01:47:28)[20:18:02] <umccullough_aa1> heh[20:18:41] <umccullough_aa1> ftp://ftp.binarychicken.com/misc/duck_appreciation.jpg[20:19:16] *** Svarthandske has quit IRC[20:19:30] *** Androo has quit IRC[20:20:49] *** mmlr has quit IRC[20:21:35] <mmu_man> ugh, since when is NetPenguin the default for ftp: on my ZETA install ?[20:21:47] <mmu_man> hmm it probably overwrites the default app[20:21:51] <mmu_man> bad kid[20:23:13] <luroh> umccullough_aa1: hehe. your duck? your dell?[20:23:27] <umccullough_aa1> yup[20:23:31] <luroh> :)[20:23:39] <umccullough_aa1> it was running haiku at the time :/[20:24:14] <luroh> you installed Haiku on a duck?[20:24:24] <umccullough_aa1> hell, why not?[20:24:35] <mmadia> how many frames does Teapot get? :)[20:24:40] <umccullough_aa1> you can see the debug output there[20:25:02] <mmadia> or the output log?[20:25:27] <umccullough_aa1> duckoutput.log[20:25:32] <pfoetchen> thotypous: yep[20:26:11] <umccullough_aa1> he has been eating quite a few bugs...[20:26:11] *** Barrett`_ has quit IRC[20:26:38] *** Barrett` has joined #haiku[20:26:46] *** DC1 has joined #haiku[20:28:42] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30929 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/layers/write_overlay/write_overlay.cpp:[20:28:42] <CIA-9> * When removing entries properly call remove_vnode().[20:28:42] <CIA-9> * Move notifications around so they are sent at the right time.[20:28:42] <CIA-9> * Use notify_entry_moved() instead of generating a removal and creation[20:28:42] <CIA-9> notification.[20:28:43] <CIA-9> * Allow replacing entries.[20:28:47] <CIA-9> * Added a TODO regarding non-empty directories.[20:32:18] *** umccullough_aa1 has quit IRC[20:35:42] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[20:39:53] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[20:42:58] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[20:46:19] *** boardbot25 has quit IRC[20:54:58] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[20:56:23] *** odites has joined #haiku[20:57:58] *** dwarfyperson has quit IRC[21:06:56] *** nikla has quit IRC[21:21:15] *** DC1 has quit IRC[21:22:51] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30930 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/layers/write_overlay/write_overlay.cpp: We need to update the name and parent directory when renaming/moving.[21:24:48] <CIA-9> mmu_man * r30931 /buildtools/trunk/gcc/gcc/config.gcc: Remove USE_GAS as for other platforms since it's deprecated, as suggested by umccullough, please shout if it breaks anything.[21:26:12] <mmu_man> ok I need to send the list of ppl for the Haiku booth at RMLL right now...[21:28:00] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[21:52:55] <miqlas> Anybody tryed to build PHP under Haiku?[21:58:51] <pfoetchen> mmu_man: most probably I will be there[22:03:29] <miqlas> Apache and PHP on Haiku: http://tiltos.com/drupal/node/14[22:03:42] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[22:03:44] *** nikla has joined #haiku[22:04:02] <mmu_man> pfoetchen cool[22:07:19] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30932 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/layers/write_overlay/write_overlay.cpp: Removed just a bit too much in r30927.[22:19:56] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[22:20:06] <Carbamide> JonathanThompson: Mom finally passed away today.[22:20:17] <JonathanThompson> Sorry to hear that, Carbamide.[22:20:20] <Carbamide> She went peacefully and without pain. That's all I could ask for.[22:20:24] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[22:20:43] <JonathanThompson> True enough: you can't change mortality's restrictions.[22:20:45] <Carbamide> I keep updating you on the status because you talked to me the first night she was in the hospital. Thanks for being there.[22:20:58] <Carbamide> I really appreciate it.[22:21:12] <JonathanThompson> yw[22:24:04] * JonathanThompson marvels at the Kitchen Sink NSString class functionality[22:25:04] <miqlas> Latest DOSBox and some another ports for Haiku: http://tiltos.com/drupal/node/15[22:25:04] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[22:25:12] <gr00ber> bOOOm[22:25:17] <JonathanThompson> Ah, here comes mr. Abusive.[22:25:21] <gr00ber> aye[22:25:27] <gr00ber> sup jonny boy[22:25:50] <umccullough> nice, dosbox was something i messed with a while back and had troubles compiling[22:26:06] <umccullough> granted, i think it was going to require gcc4[22:26:29] <gr00ber> still marvelling at NSString i guess[22:27:10] *** paul0 has quit IRC[22:28:25] <miqlas> very preliminary hacks to compile wine on haiku, it compiles, but kernel panics (KDL) - http://cia.vc/stats/project/pingwinek/.message/79d0be[22:29:07] <oxygene> JonathanThompson: the amazing thing about the openstep classes is that they're so well integrated. adding URL handling to some generic string routine would be too much to ask (no-one knows what kind of url handler one uses), but with openstep, it's all one package[22:29:27] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, there's just all sorts of functionality there.[22:29:38] <gr00ber> '[22:29:42] *** arjen_ has quit IRC[22:29:45] <JonathanThompson> Sadly, I'm not sure for my purposes of other mobile phones that use Objective-C.[22:30:01] <geist> one of these days i'll hack more cocoa. i took a week class when i was at apple, and it seemed not completely insane[22:30:24] <JonathanThompson> So, I figure I'm best off in many cases in writing all GUI stuff for the iPhone in objective-C, but all back-end stuff in C++/C.[22:30:26] *** gr00ber is now known as pooper[22:31:30] <JonathanThompson> It'll take me a small amount of time to get more accustomed to the Objective-C syntax changes.[22:31:37] <pooper> ^[22:31:54] <geist> yeah, jam smalltalk into the middle of C[22:31:57] <geist> pretty whacky[22:32:01] *** nikla has quit IRC[22:32:17] <pooper> iPoop[22:33:29] *** mmlr has joined #haiku[22:33:32] <JonathanThompson> Then, throw C++ into it for a completely fun smorgasborg :D[22:33:37] <miqlas> http://files.tiltos.com/website/dosbox/tiltos-dosbox.png[22:33:48] <miqlas> http://files.tiltos.com/website/apache/tiltos-apache-php.png[22:33:50] <pooper> smorgasbord[22:34:07][22:34:09] <pooper> yummy[22:34:15] * JonathanThompson imagines a Borg Swedish Chef[22:34:18] <pooper> in da tummy[22:34:32] <pooper> no need to imagine[22:34:33] <pooper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo[22:35:06] <miqlas> http://www.haikuware.com/images/stories/news/05-09/helios.png[22:36:00] *** judgen has joined #haiku[22:36:24] *** elapse has joined #haiku[22:36:27] <JonathanThompson> Interface Builder and how you hook things up definitely requires a small amount of explanation to start.[22:36:49] <geist> yeah totally[22:36:50] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[22:36:54] <JonathanThompson> Without that key bit of explanation, all the drag-drop-connections don't make sense at all.[22:36:55] <geist> so much of it is done behind the scenes[22:37:07] <miqlas> Very nice : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3556682242_53d18a13ba_o.png[22:37:10] <geist> which, once you understand how the obj-c stuff works it starts to make sense[22:37:15] <geist> it's all dynamically bound[22:37:19] <miqlas> Google translate widget for Haiku[22:37:19] <JonathanThompson> Never would have guessed I'd need to drag something from a view control to the file owner.[22:37:23] <oxygene> might be interesting to port cocotron (cocotron.org) to haiku ;)[22:37:43] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[22:37:45] <JonathanThompson> At least, that's the explanation I've gotten in an iPhone development book.[22:38:03] *** rumtumtiger has joined #haiku[22:39:01] <pooper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZBzvTDhGU[22:39:17] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[22:39:21] <Hugen> re[22:39:55] <JonathanThompson> I'm going to go out on a limb of an Apple tree, geist, and state that my goal before the end of next Saturday is to have a custom iPhone-based puzzle/videogame developed that's functional (perhaps not quite ready for release yet, but functional, with sound and graphics).[22:40:16] <pooper> iMPuzzled?[22:40:16] <geist> rawr[22:40:21] <geist> you go JonathanThompson[22:40:28] <JonathanThompson> I need to![22:40:31] *** mmlr has quit IRC[22:40:52] <JonathanThompson> All in the process of being forced to move out of my current place into a small 1 bedroom place shared with some guy, and looking for work.[22:41:07] <pooper> 1 bedroom, two guys?[22:41:11] <pooper> yuk[22:41:19] <JonathanThompson> If I had already done that, I likely would have nailed an iPhone development contract for a small application this week.[22:41:36] <geist> sounds like a plan[22:41:49] <pooper> translated: "i don't give a fuck"[22:42:10] <JonathanThompson> I figure it this way: no assurances I'll sell anything on the AppStore, but being able to show something released will likely get me a job with someone that pays consistently, if nothing else.[22:42:19] <geist> dont forget to start some Pre hackery :)[22:42:20] *** mmlr has joined #haiku[22:42:22] <geist> shipping in a few days[22:42:34] <JonathanThompson> That requires money I absolutely do not have right now :([22:42:40] <pooper> Post Pre = iPhone[22:43:03] <JonathanThompson> Is there a Pre´ simulator/development kit available for free?[22:43:16] <geist> i think so, yeah[22:43:39] <geist> runs in qemu[22:44:25] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[22:44:31] * JonathanThompson wonders about the sanity of attempting to learn JavaScript, Pre´ SDK, iPhone/Cocoa/Objective-C and Python all in the same small time[22:44:32] *** judgen has quit IRC[22:44:40] <geist> yeah, head asplode[22:45:12] <JonathanThompson> Might as well throw Ruby into the mix for fun :D[22:45:29] <JonathanThompson> (And don't forget about Java and J2EE and the like)[22:46:17] <pooper> java? with oracle behind the weels[22:46:19] <pooper> hahahah[22:48:49] <thotypous> pfoetchen: your work isn't in the svn yet, is it?[22:49:04] <geist> i'd love to see it[22:49:09] * pooper shows it[22:49:22] <pfoetchen> thotypous: not yet[22:52:25] <pfoetchen> the patches I submitted to track once are not realy correct anymore but I will upload something new on tuesday[22:52:36] *** pfoetchen has 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* r30933 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp:[23:04:44] <CIA-9> * Instead of moving bounds-height during paging, we now determine the exact[23:04:44] <CIA-9> next position of the caret and only scroll the distance between the current[23:04:44] <CIA-9> and the next position. This fixes #3981[23:04:44] <CIA-9> * When paging upwards, we need to compensate for the fact that the caret[23:04:45] <CIA-9> position is always considered at the top of the line, as otherwise a[23:04:49] <CIA-9> page-up would pass one more line than a page-down[23:05:55] <miqlas> http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4484/mockupfinale.png[23:06:07] <Prodego_away> sexy[23:07:38] <miqlas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjM-kaZje0[23:07:47] <rumtumtiger> people really use note taking apps?[23:08:48] <rumtumtiger> nice video ;-)[23:10:47] *** elapse has quit IRC[23:11:39] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:12:00] *** Prodego_away is now known as waldemart[23:14:13] <waldemart> wow, Haiku has a pretty great audio subsystem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1WWpKEPdT4[23:15:25] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[23:19:24] <mmu_man> "virtualized" that doesn't mean anything[23:19:28] <mmu_man> virtualized on a cray ?[23:20:06] <mmu_man> waldemart what does it have to do with Haiku ?[23:20:16] <waldemart> absolutelly nothing[23:20:20] <waldemart> absolutely*[23:20:23] <waldemart> muwhawha[23:20:27] <mmu_man> ah :p[23:20:32] *** Bumphead has quit IRC[23:21:30] <HeTo> pretty neat though[23:21:40] <miqlas> http://www.beos.tarman.pl/grafika/screen_beos60_2.gif[23:21:47] <miqlas> http://www.beos.tarman.pl/grafika/screen_beos60_1.gif[23:22:00] * JonathanThompson boots up Haiku on his 4 bit calculator for fun[23:24:27] <mmu_man> miqlas yes that's old concept mockups that were attempted with the Dano controls look[23:24:34] *** waldemart has quit IRC[23:24:52] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[23:26:40] <AlienSoldier> rick ashsley buy BeOS from access, news at 6h[23:26:57] <umccullough> never gonna give it up![23:27:08] *** judgen has joined #haiku[23:27:45] <Tekn0Mac> hi AlienSoldier[23:27:56] <AlienSoldier> hi[23:30:18] *** hajjj has joined #haiku[23:30:22] <hajjj> hello[23:30:42] <hajjj> screen is garbled when i boot Haiku[23:30:47] <hajjj> how do i diagnose?[23:31:15] <AlienSoldier> what video card do you have?[23:31:33] <hajjj> nvidia[23:31:56] <Hugen> hi AlienSoldier[23:31:59] <hajjj> GTX 295[23:32:19] <hajjj> hope haiku didn't break it or something :([23:32:34] <Hugen> AlienSoldier: ...who buy BeOS? ;>[23:32:47] <AlienSoldier> last time i booted haiku on my nvidia it was garbled, i have not tried it again since, i now test on my PC with a g200[23:32:49] *** glootech__ has joined #haiku[23:32:57] <hajjj> :-([23:33:20] <Hugen> hi Glootech[23:33:23] <hajjj> this is why alternative OS's never works... can't keep up with the graphics game[23:33:23] <AlienSoldier> it was only in some bit depth that said[23:33:37] <hajjj> hm?[23:35:04] *** hajjj has quit IRC[23:35:05] <glootech__> hi Hugen[23:35:17] *** glootech__ is now known as glootech[23:37:20] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:37:25] <HeTo> K-Lined? wow[23:37:50] *** hajjj has joined #haiku[23:38:45] <hajjj> SO HAIKU BROKE MY VIDEO CARD. FUCK.[23:38:55] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:39:10] <Hugen> o.O[23:39:14] <hajjj> piece of shit[23:39:15] *** hajjj has left #haiku[23:40:01] <JonathanThompson> Neither do I believe that claim, nor do I feel any sympathy for it.[23:40:24] <stpere> I bet he will be back :P[23:40:34] <umccullough> he reads the logs[23:40:41] <stpere> yup[23:41:06] * JonathanThompson imagines a fortune teller based in a bathroom reading logs[23:42:30] <Tekn0Mac> log readers... lol[23:46:54] <JonathanThompson> "Your future looks flushed with cash!"[23:47:10] <JonathanThompson> "But, if you're not careful, it'll all go down the tubes!" <SWOOSH>[23:47:32] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[23:48:03] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[23:57:10] *** Androo has joined #haiku[23:57:54] *** glootech_ has quit IRC[23:58:01] *** Hugen has quit IRC[23:59:27] *** jprostko has joined #haiku