May 26, 2009 
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May 26, 2009 [00:00:15] <clay_> is it possible to self update an install through source? or do you have to re-install an image every build?[00:02:34] <BePhantom> mmadia, i cant get much information from the link you provided since you and rob start a pissing contest :D[00:04:34] <mmadia> which link is that?[00:05:04] <BePhantom> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/Pathrelocatable-software-and-assigns,4[00:06:04] <mmadia> thanks... i almost forgot about that.[00:06:43] <luroh> clay_: don't know if this is what you're looking for, but you can 'jam -q @disk update-all'[00:07:21] <luroh> you can't update a running installation (yet) though[00:07:42] <mmadia> though you cannot do that from within Haiku. Eg, Haiku doesn't have an "upgrade" ability.[00:07:59] <BePhantom> but it's normal mmadia, i read the dev list on a daily basis and almost all topics go offtopic :D[00:08:59] <V_Machine> Off with their heads![00:09:12] *** Barrett` has quit IRC[00:15:09] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:17:28] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:17:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[00:23:08] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[00:25:14] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:30:10] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:31:56] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[00:32:13] *** glootech has quit IRC[00:34:16] <BePhantom> is "The Pretender" a good show?[00:38:29] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[00:38:43] <AlienSoldier> i think i watched one once, it was ok[00:39:16] <mmadia> did you pretend to enjoy it? :P[00:40:16] <AlienSoldier> nope :) i say it's above average[00:41:18] <BePhantom> from reading the plot it's looks like quantum leap[00:41:30] <BePhantom> a guy impersonating other people[00:42:39] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[00:44:19] <AlienSoldier> it rate 8/10 on imdb[00:45:38] <BePhantom> oh, next Wednesday UEFA Champions League final[00:45:51] <BePhantom> awesome, i'm so looking forward to this match :)[00:46:29] <AlienSoldier> next show i might start is the reboot of full metal achimist[00:46:45] <AlienSoldier> *alchimist[00:47:21] <BePhantom> reboot = remake?[00:48:29] *** glootech has joined #haiku[00:48:42] <BePhantom> watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqGXk8G5Z1Q[00:48:48] <BePhantom> V, remake[00:49:51] <AlienSoldier> i liked the original, even if it ran for too long. i even kind of liked the c64 game :)[00:50:19] *** evdubs has quit IRC[00:50:33] <BePhantom> yeah, the original was really good[00:52:27] <V_Machine> Oh I will definitely keep a eye out for that[00:53:13] * BePhantom is watching some pretty funny videos on youtube[00:54:55] <AlienSoldier> they need to make a joke about destroying the mothership with a Mac somewere[00:55:02] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[00:56:40] *** glootech_ has quit IRC[00:59:00] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[00:59:16] *** nvmd has joined #haiku[00:59:34] *** nvmd has left #haiku[01:02:07] *** awpeter has quit IRC[01:02:14] <BePhantom> this one is pretty good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clwhm1dRu6c haha[01:03:26] *** evdubs has quit IRC[01:06:34] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[01:07:34] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[01:07:59] *** SprMa has left #haiku[01:09:12] *** pfoetche1 has joined #haiku[01:18:45] *** evdubs has quit IRC[01:20:23] <miqlas> http://boly.hu/~miqlas/galeria/albums/haiku/screen4.png[01:24:34] <BePhantom> what would that be?[01:25:16] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[01:26:41] <Kokito> robinhood web server running in Haiku, BePhantom[01:26:50] <Kokito> right miqlas ?[01:27:04] <miqlas> Yes.[01:27:09] <miqlas> Good old picture.[01:28:24] <BePhantom> nice :)[01:28:51] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:29:27] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:30:08] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30854 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[01:30:08] <CIA-9> The 'extern "C"' was missing for the C function replacement of the Version()[01:30:08] <CIA-9> method. Rather reintroduced the method (private) instead.[01:30:31] <dr_evil> hmm[01:30:35] <dr_evil> any recommendation of a good SF book?[01:30:51] <dwarfyperson> earth ship and star song by ethan shedley, if you can find a copy[01:30:58] <dwarfyperson> out of print afaik[01:31:01] <mmu_man> Nicolas Sarkozy and Net neutrality demise[01:31:07] <mmu_man> oh wait, that's not SF[01:31:13] <mmu_man> it's actually happenning here[01:31:15] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[01:32:28] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:32:42] <dr_evil> 25 eur at amazon :/[01:34:48] <miqlas> This is my Haiku gallery (old pictures, i know..): http://boly.hu/~miqlas/galeria/index.php?album=haiku[01:35:46] <BePhantom> dr_evil, mmm, Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep is good[01:36:09] <BePhantom> I also like A Maze of Death[01:36:22] <BePhantom> both of Philip K Dick[01:36:27] <Kokito> dr_evil, Farenheit 451[01:36:45] <BePhantom> Fahrenheit is good too, Ray Bradbury[01:37:03] <BePhantom> The Time Machine by H.G. Wells, is a classic... you should check it[01:37:43] <geist> sirens of titan[01:37:51] <geist> one of my faves[01:38:03] <geist> as is slaughterhouse five[01:40:26] <BePhantom> I never read it but The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams seems to be a very fun book to read[01:42:06] <dr_evil> I liked this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Out_of_Joint[01:42:23] <BePhantom> Philip K Dick[01:42:33] <dr_evil> yes[01:42:53] <BePhantom> I never read that one[01:43:47] <BePhantom> if you can buy a Philip K Dick short story collection[01:43:49] <dr_evil> the only one of the author that i have[01:43:55] <BePhantom> those are really fun to read[01:44:26] <thebolt> i'd recommend hyperion series (4 books) and ilium+olympos (all 6 books by Dan Simmons)[01:46:55] <dr_evil> sirens of titan, unbelieveable 210 EUR[01:47:54] <BePhantom> dr_evil, where you lookin at?[01:48:02] <dr_evil> at amazon, or 4 eur at ebay[01:48:22] <BePhantom> amazon where?[01:48:28] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30855 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Style cleanup.[01:48:47] <dr_evil> .de[01:50:00] *** oco has quit IRC[01:50:18] <BePhantom> dr_evil, look for a pkd short story collection[01:50:22] <BePhantom> those are really great[01:52:53] <BePhantom> this is very cheap dr_evil http://www.amazon.de/Beyond-Lies-Wub-Collected-Stories/dp/1857988795/ref=sr_1_1/278-7708298-7315940?ie=UTF8&s=books-intl-de&qid=1243295632&sr=1-1[01:53:06] <BePhantom> 9,60 euros[01:53:32] <miqlas> Haiku Wi-Fi support - Revision 31: wifi-stack compiles, now[01:53:43] <miqlas> Haiku Wi-Fi support - Revision 30: enhancing freebsd-compatibility layer for the wireless stack[01:53:47] <miqlas> :)[01:53:55] <miqlas> http://dev.osdrawer.net/repositories/revision/93?rev=31[01:54:11] *** pfoetche1 has quit IRC[01:57:44] <dr_evil> thanks, will have a look at the various suggestions[01:59:00] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30856 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/translation/ (TranslatorRoster.cpp TranslatorRosterPrivate.h): Yummy, more style cleanup.[02:01:33] <BePhantom> miqlas, is that good? :D[02:02:08] <miqlas> I think, this is a good news for everybody, who have laptop with WiFi nic.[02:02:47] <mmadia> just to note, compiling doesn't translate to working : )[02:03:12] <BePhantom> dr_evil, those pkd collections are great specially if you don't have much time to read, you finish a short story in no time[02:03:12] <miqlas> Yes, i know, this is only a first stair to the heaven :)[02:03:19] <BePhantom> and are cheap dr_evil :)[02:03:52] <mmadia> s/cheap/financially_restricted[02:04:48] <mmadia> or whatever i meant :)[02:05:55] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[02:07:58] <Megaf> thotypous: big dog (cachorrão)[02:11:27] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30857 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/translation/TranslatorRoster.cpp: Removed BeOS support.[02:26:53] *** surrounder has quit IRC[02:27:20] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[02:32:22] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[02:35:10] * dr_evil ordered Wag the dog (DVD)[02:44:03] *** evdubs has quit IRC[02:44:45] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[02:45:01] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[02:46:42] <Megaf> Hi folks, im trying to install HaikuOS here in my laptop via an usb drive and installer, the installer is working pretty well, but its not installing the boot manager. I have no idea what is going on. Can you help me please?[02:46:48] *** surrounder has quit IRC[02:47:16] <mmadia> Megaf : `bootman` needs to be run manually.[02:47:48] <Megaf> where? how?[02:47:55] <BePhantom> when[02:47:56] <BePhantom> :D[02:48:05] <mmadia> `Installer` only writes the bootsector -- which is good, as it allows the partition to be chainloaded from another partition manager -- such as grub, xosl, bootman.[02:48:05] <Megaf> on a terminal?[02:48:08] <BePhantom> which[02:48:08] <BePhantom> :D[02:48:11] <mmadia> yes, on terminal.[02:48:17] <Megaf> right[02:48:24] <Megaf> starting up usb drive[02:48:31] <mmadia> just to note, currently, `bootman` only supports a single drive.[02:48:40] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson in da house?[02:48:47] <mmadia> so, if you've more than one hard drive, you'll need to use a different partition manager.[02:49:27] <Megaf> mmadia: i want only one...[02:49:49] <Megaf> the partition table of the first disk s not compatible with boot manager[02:49:56] <Megaf> arght[02:50:10] * Megaf is getting angry[02:50:37] * BePhantom fears Megaf will turn into the Hulk[02:53:16] <Megaf> why bootman is not working??[02:54:23] <mmadia> Megaf : if i remember correctly, bootman might need about 1~2mb of free space at the beginning of the drive.[02:54:40] <Megaf> 2 KB[02:55:00] <Megaf> but Haiku's drivesetup doesnt support this[02:55:48] <Megaf> unbelievable, i need another OS to install setup my hard drive and install Haiku, worse then windows[02:55:59] * Megaf is angry[02:56:37] <mmadia> Megaf , lemme digup some pages that might be useful.[02:56:40] <dr_evil> 3am, time to sleep[02:56:46] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:56:49] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[02:56:54] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/node/2509[02:57:14] <mmadia> that details downloading and booting Ranish Partition Manager.[02:57:34] <Megaf> mmadia: im angry cuz i was the really first one to run Haiku without problems on a Asus EeePC[02:57:42] <Megaf> and now is not working anymore[02:57:51] <Megaf> i did that several months ago[02:58:11] <Megaf> i think one year and a half[02:58:31] <Megaf> thotypous does know i was the first one[02:58:53] <thotypous> yes[02:58:56] <thotypous> in fact he was[02:59:32] <mmadia> *nods* i'm still gonna try to help either way ;)[02:59:57] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30858 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/os/kernel/OS.h src/system/kernel/system_info.cpp):[02:59:57] <CIA-9> Added system_info::abi field. It contains the system's ABI version, which[02:59:57] <CIA-9> might be different from that of the caller (on hybrid builds).[03:01:14] *** redblue has joined #haiku[03:02:20] *** evdubs has quit IRC[03:02:38] <mmadia> Megaf : so will there be any other OS's on that pc?[03:02:53] <Megaf> mmadia: nope[03:03:09] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30859 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/translation/ (TranslatorRoster.cpp TranslatorRosterPrivate.h):[03:03:09] <CIA-9> Added awareness for running with a non-native ABI (hybrid build). In this case[03:03:09] <CIA-9> we test for a respective subdirectory for any translators path added and use[03:03:09] <CIA-9> that instead, if existing.[03:04:08] <mmadia> Megaf : excellent. can i suggest how to partition the drive? :)[03:04:22] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30860 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/AlternativeGCCArchive:[03:04:22] <CIA-9> Added translators to the alternative gcc archive (the non-native part of the[03:04:22] <CIA-9> hybrid build). Fixes #3952.[03:04:23] <Megaf> mmadia: please[03:04:40] <BePhantom> from live usb?[03:04:50] <Megaf> im in the partitioner right now[03:04:53] <Megaf> Linux...[03:05:10] <Megaf> BePhantom: yep, but is Linux :)[03:05:33] <Megaf> ive made two live usbs, one is Linux and another is Haiku[03:05:48] <Kokito> good night folks[03:05:58] <Megaf> good night[03:06:05] <mmadia> Megaf : 3 partitions. the first two are for the actual installations of Haiku.[03:06:19] *** Kokito has quit IRC[03:06:23] <mmadia> the 3rd is to keep important files, backups, shared data, etc. on it.[03:06:36] <BePhantom> 3rd for pr0n :)[03:06:49] <Megaf> mmadia: now the disk is empty[03:09:16] <Megaf> mmadia: does Haiku support Ext3?[03:09:57] <Megaf> BePhantom: jejeejejje[03:10:14] <Megaf> BePhantom: my Eee will be only a Haiku show case[03:10:18] <mmadia> eeehh.. i'm not sure about that.[03:10:30] <Megaf> right, no problem[03:10:40] <Megaf> Mandriva does support BeOS FS[03:10:42] <BePhantom> i could check that ext3 thing[03:10:47] <BePhantom> if you have a minute[03:10:54] <Megaf> sure[03:11:13] <BePhantom> ok, i'll be back in a min, will check that[03:11:27] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[03:15:53] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[03:16:11] <BePhantom> Megaf, yes, it can mount ext3[03:16:15] <BePhantom> read only tho[03:16:36] <BePhantom> but it shows as ext2, weird[03:17:19] <BePhantom> that must be a bug[03:19:15] <Megaf> right[03:19:17] <Megaf> thanks[03:20:01] <Megaf> thotypous: why dont you put CIA-9 in #Haiku-Br?[03:20:38] <thotypous> I don't know how to do that.. you can do[03:20:42] <thotypous> I'm sleepy[03:20:45] <thotypous> good night[03:20:50] <Megaf> me too[03:20:56] <Megaf> good night thotypous[03:21:00] <BePhantom> could anyone check if their haiku mounts ext3 file system as ex2?[03:21:14] <mmadia> thotypous, is "Canal em Português de IRC" correct grammar and spelling ?[03:21:26] <Megaf> mmadia: nope[03:21:42] <mmadia> *for a description of #haiku-br[03:22:14] <thotypous> mmadia: "Canal de IRC em Português" is more readable, but your description is correct also[03:22:31] <thotypous> good night[03:22:46] <Megaf> mmadia: our topic is Brazilian community of haiku developers[03:23:03] <thotypous> Brazilian community of Haiku users and developers[03:23:04] <Megaf> mmadia: our topic is Brazilian community of developers and users of Haiku[03:23:11] <thotypous> currently only one developer - BGA :P[03:23:21] <mmadia> ok, i was looking to edit : http://www.haiku-os.org/community/irc[03:24:54] <Megaf> mmadia: put Canal IRC em português.[03:25:14] <Megaf> is better[03:26:55] <Megaf> mmadia: i just got Haiku running on my EeePC[03:26:57] <Megaf> :)[03:27:03] <BePhantom> i think that "de" is missing there :)[03:27:09] <Megaf> booman had worked now[03:27:29] <thotypous> good night all (that time I'm really going :P)[03:27:48] <Megaf> thotypous: ehhehe, cya[03:27:54] <Megaf> sleep well[03:28:59] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[03:29:15] <BePhantom> is "Canal do..." correct?[03:29:29] <BePhantom> or is it "de"?[03:29:53] <mmadia> i think it's "du"[03:29:58] <mmadia> is in "idunno" :P[03:30:41] <BePhantom> :D my portuguese is very limited that's why I'm asking[03:30:41] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[03:31:22] <Megaf> #haiku-br[03:31:22] <Megaf> Canal IRC em Português[03:31:35] <Megaf> this is the best way[03:31:54] <BePhantom> roger that[03:31:55] <BePhantom> :)[03:32:19] <mmadia> updated. thanks :)[03:33:06] <MegafEee> Haiku rocks[03:33:15] <MegafEee> it needs a better installer...[03:35:36] *** thotypous has quit IRC[03:37:21] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[03:39:06] <BePhantom> i should test ext3 a bit more, i think i hit a bug[03:39:40] <mmadia> BePhantom , just make sure you test it on a spare partition :)[03:40:05] <BePhantom> i don't have one :P[03:40:09] <BePhantom> any ideas?[03:40:26] <BePhantom> maybe i should mount a linux cd?[03:40:38] <BePhantom> with ext3 file system[03:40:41] <mmadia> sounds good.[03:41:01] <BePhantom> wait, does linux cd have ext3 partition?[03:41:53] <umccullough> iso[03:42:52] <umccullough> better would be a usb stick[03:42:56] <BePhantom> i could try with a pendrive[03:42:57] <Megaf> BePhantom: nope[03:42:59] <umccullough> yep[03:43:12] <Megaf> BePhantom: what do you want to do?[03:43:16] <BePhantom> but i only have 2 usb ports[03:43:47] <BePhantom> i use one port for haiku, and the second for usb mouse (synaptics touchpad won't work)[03:45:14] <BePhantom> V_Machine, here?[03:45:45] <Megaf> http://megaf.is-a-geek.com/[03:45:49] <Megaf> running on Haiku :)[03:46:15] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[03:46:28] <Megaf> BePhantom: here my ouchpad works well[03:46:33] <Megaf> alo paul0[03:46:39] <Megaf> paul0: #Haiku-Br[03:46:40][03:51:53] <BePhantom> brb i'll boot haiku[03:51:57] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[03:52:15] *** Megaf is now known as Megaf_[03:52:46] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[03:52:55] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[03:53:11] *** Megaf is now known as MegafEee[03:53:24] *** Megaf_ is now known as Megaf[04:00:15] <MegafEee> what was the name of leaf menu in BeOS?[04:00:31] <mmadia> Deskbar[04:00:44] <mmadia> well, technically, BeOS doesn't have a leaf menu :P[04:01:15] <MegafEee> :)[04:01:42] <MegafEee> [23:01] [MegafEee VERSION response]: Vision-0.9.7-H-090423 : Haiku/r30847 (1x630MHz) : http://vision.sourceforge.net[04:02:19] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[04:03:30] <BePhantom> mmadia here?[04:03:37] *** Bumphead has quit IRC[04:03:39] <mmadia> yup.[04:04:00] <BePhantom> could you help me see if this is a bug or expected behaviour?[04:04:04] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[04:04:17] <BePhantom> i'll show you two pictures[04:04:33] *** evdubs has quit IRC[04:04:39] <BePhantom> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1117724/Pantallazo-3.png[04:05:05] <BePhantom> check the terminal, ex3 partition[04:05:09] <BePhantom> ext3*[04:05:21] <BePhantom> sda5[04:05:33] <BePhantom> now, haiku: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1117724/25052009081.jpg[04:06:25] <BePhantom> ext2[04:06:32] <mmadia> the only thing that i can think of ....[04:06:48] <mmadia> is that the ext2 and ext3 filesystems may use the same driver.[04:07:05] <mmadia> even if they do, it should be able to somehow differentiate between the two.[04:07:35] <BePhantom> should i open a ticket?[04:07:53] * MegafEee is idle: film[04:08:15] <BePhantom> or maybe someone else here can check an ext3 partition under haiku[04:08:23] <BePhantom> to see if he/she has the same results[04:08:28] <BePhantom> umccullough maybe?[04:08:55] <mmadia> for this, i'd safe it's safe to assume it's reproducible.[04:10:57] <BePhantom> should i open a ticket?[04:11:19] <mmadia> yes, but check if one exists first.[04:18:21] <BePhantom> I'm checking, there are tickets like this one http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2483[04:18:28] <BePhantom> where they mention ext2[04:19:12] <BePhantom> but i don't understand quite well[04:23:02] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[04:25:09] <mmadia> BePhantom : http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1097[04:25:40] <mmadia> it seems the Ext3 partition is being treated as Ext2 by haiku.[04:26:19] <BePhantom> mmadia, thanks. Then it's an expected behaviour[04:28:51] <BePhantom> brb i'll check another thing[04:28:55] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[04:34:27] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[04:36:59] <BePhantom> weird: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1117724/25052009082.jpg[04:37:10] <BePhantom> same happens with some png[04:37:25] <BePhantom> sorry, i couldnt rotate the picture :D[04:39:44] <mmadia> you should ask the mailing list about that..[04:40:19] <mmadia> i'm really not sure what the desired behavior is.[04:40:57] <BePhantom> ok, I'll send an email. Do I need to be subscribed?[04:41:43] <mmadia> most likely.[04:41:44] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[04:43:51] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[04:45:06] <BePhantom> haiku-development at freelists dot org is the email address?[04:45:28] <BePhantom> I just subscribed[04:45:57] <mmadia> or haiku at freelists dot org[04:46:41] <mmadia> to be honest, i'm really not sure what the "ideal" mailing list for asking about possible bugs would be. :|[04:46:56] <BePhantom> i just subscribed to the dev list lol[04:47:45] <BePhantom> well, i'll try the dev[04:48:03] <BePhantom> hope you guys are nice to me :D[04:48:35] <mmadia> i can be a real anal prick on the mailing lists :)[04:49:02] <mmadia> i'll send out private emails pointing people to haiku's mailing list etiquette page, especially if they send attachments.[04:55:48] <clay_> is python installed on the haiku images from the website?[04:56:18] <BePhantom> mmadia, which image hosting site should i use? i want to send the image too[04:56:25] <BePhantom> my preferred is imageshack[04:56:26] <mmadia> clay_ no. scottmc is working on getting python to a point where it'll be listed as an optional package though,[04:56:54] <mmadia> BePhantom : imageshack is ok.[04:56:57] <BePhantom> ok[04:57:39] <clay_> mmadia: is there a way to get it on there? I downloaded the source, patched it from the diff file in haikuports, but when i run make its looking for an existing interpreter?[04:58:13] <mmadia> iirc, python needs a pre-existing installation of itself to compile. :\[04:58:40] <mmadia> check here http://www.haiku-ports.de/packages/dev-lang/python[04:59:56] <clay_> hah[05:00:12] <clay_> i'll give that a shot[05:00:17] <clay_> thankyou sir[05:02:35] <BePhantom> mmadia, email sent[05:02:39] * BePhantom hides :D[05:03:31] <V_Machine> peep[05:05:14] <BePhantom> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/PNG-and-JPG-as-executables :D[05:12:28] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[05:16:15] *** scanty has quit IRC[05:20:41] *** paul0 has quit IRC[05:27:34] *** scanty has joined #haiku[05:36:06] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[05:39:09] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[05:39:37] *** Guest87800 has joined #haiku[06:00:46] *** Megaf has quit IRC[06:01:18] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[06:13:46] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[06:13:54] <Hugen> hi[06:26:39] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[06:30:11] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:30:52] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[06:33:09] *** surround2r has joined #haiku[06:36:55] *** Hugen has quit IRC[06:40:46] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[06:42:34] * V_Machine stuck rechecking out all of the source. :( all day and still chugging away..... Man should I just tar it up and throw it up on a torrent or something so other need not suffer?[06:43:38] *** surround1r has quit IRC[06:46:06] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[06:46:06] *** surrounder has quit IRC[07:05:29] *** Elledan has joined #haiku[07:20:43] *** hackkitten has quit IRC[07:20:44] *** Maya-sama has quit IRC[07:20:54] *** hackkitten has joined #haiku[07:22:28] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[07:22:29] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[07:33:38] <scottmc> clay_ if you are looking for python binary to can get it here: http://www.haiku-ports.de/packages/dev-lang/python/[07:33:54] <scottmc> then unzip to /boot[07:40:14] *** umccullough_aa1 has quit IRC[07:47:00] <clay_> scottmc: got it going, thanks![07:52:26] *** Bumphead has joined #haiku[07:59:13] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[08:03:35] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:17:07] *** Elledan is now known as Maya-sama[08:26:23] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:27:09] *** scottmc has quit IRC[08:40:49] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[09:01:19] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[09:06:07] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[09:10:44] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[09:11:41] *** RHarmsen has joined #haiku[09:13:06] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[09:19:40] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[09:20:32] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[09:22:26] *** glootech has quit IRC[09:29:26] *** Megaf has quit IRC[09:34:30] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[09:34:47] *** SprMa has left #haiku[09:36:24] *** dwarfyperson has quit IRC[09:36:50] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[09:41:47] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[10:14:54] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[10:22:45] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[10:27:33] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[10:27:57] *** V_Machine has left #Haiku[10:27:58] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:43:46] *** surround2r has quit IRC[11:01:55] *** Karurosu has quit IRC[12:02:00] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:02:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[12:03:10] <CIA-9> zooey * r309 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/rsync/rsync-3.0.6-haiku.patch:[12:03:10] <CIA-9> * adjusted Makefile.in to use the libz.so provided by haiku instead of[12:03:10] <CIA-9> compiling the respective sources it into rsync[12:06:41] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[12:16:16] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[12:16:16] *** Teknomancer has left #haiku[12:16:20] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[12:22:46] *** smooki has joined #haiku[12:23:29] <smooki> hi[12:24:31] <Maya-sama> hi[12:26:50] <smooki> I'd downloaded lastest vmdk (vmware image) of haiku but when I click on the associated .vmx file vmware allways says it can't find the vmdk, even If I then select if from file selection dialog box ... any help ?[12:28:35] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[12:30:28] *** SprMa has left #haiku[12:43:42] <CIA-9> zooey * r310 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/rsync/rsync-3.0.6-haiku.patch: * fixed whitespace issue in last version of patch[12:47:49] <smooki> ++[12:48:11] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[13:19:09] <CIA-9> zooey * r30861 /haiku/trunk/headers/posix/libio.h:[13:19:09] <CIA-9> closing #3481:[13:19:09] <CIA-9> * applied a patch suggested by kaliber that seems to fix the issue for good,[13:19:09] <CIA-9> thanks![13:36:20] <CIA-9> zooey * r30862 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages: * added optional package for rsync[13:37:49] *** jps42 has joined #haiku[13:38:28] <jps42> hello[13:40:55] *** nibble has quit IRC[13:42:04] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:42:16] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:42:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:43:24] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[13:43:57] *** yoritomo has joined #haiku[13:44:52] *** yoritomo has left #haiku[13:45:06] *** stippi has joined #haiku[13:45:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[13:46:29] <stippi> Hi all, I know this isn't really appropriate for this channel, but does someone here feel like helping me fix a GRUB installation which I screwed up by messing with the partition layout?[13:54:28] *** nibble has joined #haiku[13:56:41] <smooki> should I take the gcc4 image ?[13:57:12] <jps42> I did[13:57:22] <smooki> for vmware player ?[13:57:28] <stippi> smooki: If it's very recent, like from later than last night, then it has a fix for GCC2 apps not being able to use image translators.[13:57:54] <stippi> So you can use WonderBrush properly, for example.[13:58:16] <smooki> cannot ?[13:58:23] <smooki> oh[13:58:25] <smooki> ok[13:58:53] <smooki> so it should be ok with gcc4 now?[13:59:13] <smooki> haiku-pre-alpha-gcc4-r30853-vm.zip ?[14:01:25] *** arigayas has joined #haiku[14:10:35] <jps42> silly question, but what timezones are people from? I'm in Oz - 10pm[14:10:45] <smooki> +1[14:10:58] <smooki> 14pm[14:11:19] <smooki> 2pm for english[14:11:19] <stippi> smooki: No, 30860 is the one that has the alternative GCC Translators.[14:11:28] <smooki> ok[14:11:42] <stippi> ok guys, see you later![14:11:46] *** stippi has quit IRC[14:11:47] <jps42> cheers..[14:11:48] <smooki> maybe easiest for me to try with gcc2 then :D[14:15:43] *** Barrett` has joined #haiku[14:18:04] *** arigayas_away has quit IRC[14:21:47] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30863 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/BeBuild.h: Patch by Scott McCreary: Replaced C++ by C comments.[14:26:52] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[14:27:18] *** surrounder has quit IRC[14:36:46] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[14:37:09] <jps42> night all....[14:37:21] *** jps42 has quit IRC[14:38:30] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[14:38:44] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[14:45:51] *** arigayas is now known as arigayas_Zzz[14:46:28] *** Svarthandske has joined #haiku[14:47:51] *** dos4 has joined #haiku[14:47:51] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[14:49:24] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[14:50:18] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:03:23] <helf|laptop> hi[15:03:31] <mmadia> morning[15:03:45] <helf|laptop> hi matt[15:04:09] <mmadia> how's the 5 holes doing today?[15:04:34] <helf|laptop> ok[15:04:39] <helf|laptop> took my last painkiller this morning[15:04:41] * helf|laptop sniffs[15:04:56] <helf|laptop> havent had any issues :)[15:04:58] <helf|laptop> amazingly enough[15:05:06] <helf|laptop> other than insanely bad breathe[15:07:06] <mmadia> the pain pills won't help with that :P[15:07:40] <helf|laptop> other than being super loopy the day after, this hasnt been all that badive had to be careful with what i eat[15:08:10] <smooki> well I don't understand, I dl the vmware zip file, extract, then I click on vmx file, and it says the vmdk file is not there.... someone can help please ?[15:08:36] <helf|laptop> you need to get the vmk file[15:09:13] <smooki> oh, where ?[15:10:07] <smooki> sorry I see it now ^^[15:10:56] <smooki> well in fact no[15:12:20] <HeTo> smooki: did you extract the zip file to the same directory as the vmx file?[15:12:25] <smooki> yes[15:12:56] <smooki> the zip contains both vmx and vmdk files[15:13:02] <smooki> so there are at the same place[15:13:54] <mmadia> smooki edit the vmdk file and check if it matches the filename of the haiku image file.[15:14:02] <smooki> allready tried[15:14:05] <mmadia> i've seen a few reports about them not being in sync.[15:14:23] <smooki> and from vmplayer when I browser to the file it deosn't work neither[15:17:18] <smooki> 'File not found: haiku-alpha-gcc4.vmdk'[15:17:22] *** franxico has joined #haiku[15:17:48] <smooki> :'([15:18:40] <franxico> don't cry, smooki, life is beautiful[15:19:46] <smooki> well I would like to test my favorite os[15:20:03] <smooki> but life is beautiful I agree[15:20:39] <franxico> Haiku doesn't boot here neither :([15:21:15] <franxico> USB hid bug it think[15:21:21] <franxico> *I think[15:22:10] <smooki> well see you in several months :([15:22:29] *** smooki has left #haiku[15:33:46] <mmadia> franxico does a ticket exist for your boot issue?[15:34:12] <franxico> yes, let me find it[15:36:14] *** dos4 has quit IRC[15:36:44] <franxico> mmadia, i think this is the one http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2253[15:37:02] <franxico> i have a wireless mouse/keyb from Logitech[15:37:42] <franxico> Haiku hangs at the rocket phase[15:37:47] <Blub\0> mmadia: thx for the msg, I deleted my other account already :)[15:38:20] <Blub\0> mmadia: I kept the one withw hich I had already made a ticket - which is weird because it means that I *did* have an email address there before ...[15:38:24] <mmadia> just checking franxico :)[15:38:59] <mmadia> Blub\0 : yeah, i recognized a few accounts as ones that posted tickets at some point.[15:39:37] <franxico> tried first booting from a pen drive and last week tried from real hardware (Vostro 410 Intel Quad)[15:39:55] <Blub\0> does the system send "keep alive" verification emails? :P[15:40:04] <Blub\0> maybe I missed it :P[15:40:26] <franxico> built in KUbuntu GCC2[15:42:53] <mmadia> Blub\0 , not that i know of.[15:43:30] <mmadia> seeing the large amount of users with out a mailing address raised personal concern.[16:12:40] <franxico> mmadia, I know it's selfish, but that bug is critical for me ;)[16:14:57] <mmadia> franxico : ask mmlr what can be done to assist[16:16:17] <franxico> i'll try :)[16:19:28] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[16:19:47] *** surround1r has quit IRC[16:23:13] *** cherrypai has joined #haiku[16:36:42] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[16:44:58] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[16:48:36] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[17:01:11] *** sjg has joined #haiku[17:01:11] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[17:01:17] <sjg> hi[17:01:17] *** johndrin1water has quit IRC[17:01:29] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[17:01:39] <sjg> are there any freenode channels where people are nice[17:01:51] <oxygene> sjg: #ocdfvgbhnjmkk might be[17:01:57] *** johndrinkwater is now known as Guest48541[17:03:00] <sjg> ok[17:03:14] <sjg> is that cuz nobody goes there[17:04:01] <sjg> I've been on irc since 93 and its changed a lot since then[17:04:38] <sjg> not that I haven't changed either and my perception of it[17:04:47] *** Barrett` has quit IRC[17:08:23] <CIA-9> zooey * r30864 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/os/parsedate.cpp:[17:08:23] <CIA-9> * squashed a TODO in parsedate() about missing timezones - now both textual[17:08:23] <CIA-9> (3-letter) and numerical timezones (e.g. -0700) are supported[17:08:23] <CIA-9> This means that the workaround in mail_util.cpp of the mail kit could be[17:08:23] <CIA-9> removed, but since I do not know if that should still support other versions[17:08:25] <CIA-9> of BeOS, I have chosen to leave it alone.[17:09:28] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:11:38] <miqlas> Can sombody tell me what it means the "vanilla" in this sentence: "Pretty much a vanilla AMD Athlon 64 system, the kind you would see on 10's of millions of desktops around the world."[17:12:19] <miqlas> I read this word lot of times, but i don't know what it means. I readed it on an Hackintosh page, now on the Haiku mailing list...[17:12:37] <mmadia> vanilla = plain, standard[17:12:42] <miqlas> oh...[17:12:52] <miqlas> Now i understand :)[17:12:56] <miqlas> Thanks, mmadia.[17:13:08] <mmadia> like a vanilla sunday --- nothing but vanilla ice cream :)[17:13:54] <mmadia> err.. Sundae[17:15:05] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[17:15:11] *** sjg has quit IRC[17:15:20] *** SprMa has left #haiku[17:19:14] <CIA-9> zooey * r30865 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/libroot/os/ParseDateTest.cpp: * added a couple more test dates that contain timezones[17:20:16] <CIA-9> zooey * r30866 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/libroot/os/DriverSettingsTest.cpp: * fixed gcc4-build of DriverSettingsTest[17:25:50] *** Barrett` has joined #haiku[17:26:56] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[17:34:04] *** luroh has joined #haiku[17:34:59] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[17:41:34] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[17:44:31] *** dos4 has joined #haiku[17:49:09] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[18:05:33] *** nikla has joined #haiku[18:12:14] *** nikla has quit IRC[18:14:20] *** Guest48541 is now known as johndrinkwater[18:15:51] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[18:24:36] <franxico> 17:04] <sjg> are there any freenode channels where people are nice[18:24:58] <franxico> we are nice, aren't we?[18:25:04] <franxico> damn it![18:25:08] <franxico> :)[18:26:07] <ln-> sure we are, and we'll kick anyone who dares to disagree![18:29:28] <franxico> now you're talking![18:31:51] <MegafEee> ping?[18:33:02] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[18:37:53] <umccullough> hitachi 1TB drive for $75 and free shipping[18:38:32] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[18:39:46] <mmadia> that 24" monitor looks nice ;)[18:40:04] <umccullough> eh, it's only 1080[18:40:13] <umccullough> i'll keep my 1920x1200 ;)[18:42:27] *** wtracy has joined #haiku[18:42:42] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[18:49:09] *** pyCube has quit IRC[19:04:17] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[19:04:20] <Hugen> hi[19:04:47] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:05:41] *** Hugen has quit IRC[19:07:03] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[19:07:59] <miqlas> Hello.[19:09:01] <miqlas> Can somebody help to me. My nativ language is Hungarian, and i never learned english. Now i found an interresting text, but it conatins "w/" and i don't understand this. It means with? Or without? Please, help to me...[19:09:20] <mmadia> w/ = with , w/o = without[19:09:47] <miqlas> Oh. Thanks mmadia! You always so helpful :)[19:10:09] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[19:10:10] <mmadia> "last night, i stayed home w/diarrhea" ;)[19:10:11] <gr00ber> BOOO![19:10:20] <gr00ber> who's diarrhea?[19:10:30] <stpere> hehe[19:10:58] <stpere> that's too much details ;-)[19:11:11] <mmadia> it's only an example :D[19:11:14] <miqlas> diarrhea? I know only gonorrhea.... :D[19:15:14] <gr00ber> miqlas, me too. She's a real bitch.[19:21:15] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[19:23:51] <MegafEee> hi all, i have an empy hard disk, and id like to install haiku on it. But i cant boot from usb drive[19:24:06] <MegafEee> there are Linux installed in another hard drive[19:24:11] <MegafEee> so, i can use dd[19:24:13] <umccullough> use linux to build haiku to your partition[19:24:16] <MegafEee> now, how?[19:24:24] <MegafEee> build[19:24:30] <umccullough> or dd it...if you so desire[19:24:31] *** brechtm has joined #haiku[19:24:36] <MegafEee> can i use the pre-alpha image instead?[19:24:51] <umccullough> there are tons of how-to's floating around[19:26:44] *** databridge has joined #haiku[19:27:15] <brechtm> hi[19:27:48] <MegafEee> hey[19:31:31] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[19:33:21] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:43:59] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:48:52] *** wtracy has quit IRC[19:53:49] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[19:54:23] *** gr00ber has left #haiku[20:04:17] *** glootech_ is now known as glootech[20:04:34] *** databridge has quit IRC[20:07:25] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[20:08:10] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[20:13:59] <miqlas> Haiku Wi-Fi support - Revision 32: added further wifi-stack components - http://dev.osdrawer.net/repositories/revision/93?rev=32[20:15:06] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[20:15:27] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[20:16:57] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[20:17:56] *** bittin` has joined #haiku[20:20:40] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[20:25:31] *** redblue has joined #haiku[20:27:59] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[20:29:36] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[20:31:17] <CIA-9> rudolfc * r30867 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/ (nv_acc_dma.c nv_general.c):[20:33:07] <HeTo> no commit message? bad rudolfc[20:35:09] *** UiX has joined #haiku[20:35:10] <HeTo> and of course it'll take ages before that shows in trac (not[20:35:49] <HeTo> that I'll reallly care, just interested in what got changed)[20:35:55] <luroh> HeTo: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/haiku-commits/2009-May/016946.html[20:36:43] <CIA-9> zooey * r311 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/rsync/rsync-3.0.6-haiku.patch:[20:36:43] <CIA-9> * reworked patch such that -H (hard-link support) is no longer filtered out[20:36:43] <CIA-9> thanks to Ingo for the note[20:42:56] <oxygene> reminds me that I still have some pci ids here to add to the nvidia driver[20:43:12] *** Svarthandske has quit IRC[20:43:12] <CIA-9> rudolfc * r30868 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/UPDATE.html:[20:43:12] <CIA-9> modified GPU Ptimer programming which according to nouveau should fix LVDS panel[20:43:12] <CIA-9> programming in some cases. Bumped version to 0.91. If this update brings[20:43:12] <CIA-9> trouble, let me know... Sorry about the empty commit message before btw.[20:43:41] <miqlas> Thanks, rudolfc![20:45:30] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[20:47:59] *** boardbot25 has quit IRC[20:49:14] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[20:49:15] *** Megaf is now known as MegafEee[20:49:22] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[20:50:50] *** nibble has quit IRC[20:53:21] *** nibble has joined #haiku[20:53:40] * helf|laptop is finally upgrading[20:53:49] <helf|laptop> amd x2 BE[20:53:58] <helf|laptop> since i can do this entire upgrade for like $150[20:53:59] <helf|laptop> :)[20:57:28] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[20:58:19] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[20:58:28] <pyCube> hi[21:00:01] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[21:01:58] <helf|laptop> hi[21:21:26] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[21:21:51] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[21:23:11] <mmadia> _-Caleb-_ are you able to create tickets on dev.haiku-os.org ?[21:23:23] <_-Caleb-_> yes[21:23:38] <mmadia> interesting. i noticed your account has no email address specified.[21:24:03] <mmadia> just wanted to make sure :)[21:24:33] <_-Caleb-_> lol[21:24:43] <_-Caleb-_> one second i look this[21:24:46] *** jprostko has left #haiku[21:24:48] *** korli has joined #haiku[21:24:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[21:26:32] <_-Caleb-_> mmadia I have already introduced the mail and the full name but I have 2 bugs reported smooth[21:28:52] <CIA-9> brecht * r312 /portlogplugin/trunk/portlog/common.py:[21:28:52] <CIA-9> Added quick-n-dirty bep generation module.[21:28:52] <CIA-9> Initial code for configuration panels.[21:28:52] <CIA-9> Various small fixes.[21:28:59] *** nibble has quit IRC[21:36:50] *** nibble has joined #haiku[21:37:57] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[21:38:12] <CIA-9> brecht * r313 /portlogplugin/trunk/portlog/ (7 files in 2 dirs):[21:38:12] <CIA-9> Oops. These files too![21:38:12] <CIA-9> Also adds a sources URL field for the port version.[21:39:44] <pyCube> ooo![21:40:04] * pyCube finds a nice farmhouse in the country for rent[21:42:25] <helf|laptop> be nice[21:46:13] <pyCube> oh man.. i want it[21:48:19] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:49:23] *** oco has joined #haiku[21:50:03] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[21:51:39] <korli> anyone has 3dmix at hand ? is it downloadble ?[21:51:46] <mmadia> greetings philcostin . are you able to post tickets at dev.haiku-os.org ?[21:52:00] <mmadia> korli - as in R5's?[21:52:46] <korli> mmadia: yes, is it a sample application ?[21:53:09] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[21:54:50] <mmadia> no. at least i don't see it listed under the /boot/optional/sample-code folder.[21:55:16] <mmadia> i'd image the binary is available int the PE image for linux : http://bebits.com/app/2680[21:56:55] <philcostin> hi mmadia, I'll take a look[21:58:16] * JonathanThompson poits mmadia[21:58:29] <mmadia> hi JonathanThompson[21:58:40] <philcostin> mmadia: I think so, yes. I have the New Ticket button in trac[21:59:13] <mmadia> ok. i noticed your account has no email address attached to it philcostin[21:59:33] <philcostin> ah, I thought I had added one... hmm... I'll check that out[21:59:48] <mmadia> since in the past there's been issues of people not being able to obtain ticket creation permissions, i figured sending out an email would be useful[22:00:10] <philcostin> I'm sure I had set it because I have been receiving emails[22:00:10] <HeTo> 3dmix is indeed part of R5, I have it on my desktop computer[22:00:30] <philcostin> the box is blank, however.[22:00:48] <philcostin> ah..[22:00:58] <philcostin> mmadia I have a notice in a green box appeared[22:01:08] <philcostin> Notice: <acct_mgr.web_ui.MessageWrapper object at 0xb73cb3cc>[22:01:27] <philcostin> That appeared when entering my email address[22:01:41] <philcostin> (well, when pressing save changes)[22:01:45] * mmadia scratches head.[22:02:18] <philcostin> maybe the mails I was receiving are strictly from drupal and not trac...[22:02:31] <philcostin> they are forum related after all[22:03:55] <mmadia> on the [haiku] mailing list, i sent instructions for fixing the Trac account... i *think* they're accurate :)[22:04:28] <philcostin> heh... mmadia: when I click preferences, I now have a yellow error box with "Warning: <acct_mgr.web_ui.MessageWrapper object at 0xb71dfa2c>"[22:04:46] <philcostin> although it appears the email address has remained there[22:06:55] <philcostin> mmadia: I got a mail with an email validation URL[22:06:59] <philcostin> seemed to work OK[22:07:29] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[22:08:21] <mmadia> nice! :)[22:08:25] <philcostin> :P[22:08:49] * philcostin signs up to the mailing list.[22:10:35] *** clay_ has quit IRC[22:11:12] *** DrHouse_Compaq is now known as DrHouse[Away][22:11:24] *** DrHouse[Away] is now known as DrHouse_Away[22:12:17] *** DrHouse_Away is now known as DrHouse[Away][22:12:33] *** nibble has quit IRC[22:12:50] *** DrHouse[Away] is now known as DrHouse_Compaq[22:14:03] *** V_Machine has joined #haiku[22:14:44] *** nibble has joined #haiku[22:15:31] *** franxico has quit IRC[22:17:55] *** oco has quit IRC[22:26:28] *** Hodapp has quit IRC[22:26:28] *** Hodapp_ has joined #haiku[22:27:14] <MegafEee> hi folks, i had just installed haiku in my harddrive[22:27:26] <MegafEee> but i dont know how to install grub on it[22:28:01] <HeTo> well why do you want to install GRUB?[22:28:12] <MegafEee> or how to configure my linux grub to boot that hard drive[22:28:46] <MegafEee> linux is in hda5, windows hda1[22:28:52] <MegafEee> haiku sda[22:29:01] <mmadia> MegafEee : try running Installer, iirc, stippi included instructions for Grub in the first window[22:29:14] <helf|laptop> matt[22:29:19] <helf|laptop> you use amd systems, right?[22:29:30] <HeTo> hmm if GRUB and Haiku are on different hard drives it might not work[22:29:53] <HeTo> at least if Haiku's hard drive isn't seen as (hd0) to GRUB[22:30:12] <MegafEee> maybe it will be hd1,0?[22:30:28] <HeTo> GRUB apparently fails to pass the drive number in some register, since the same partition boot sector works with BeOS bootman[22:30:32] <mmadia> josh yes.[22:30:50] <HeTo> or at least that's what I think happens[22:30:53] <mmadia> and you really gotta use my nickname... i'm not sure how many messages i've missed , helf|laptop[22:31:35] <HeTo> and if it's on whole disk (not on a partition), that would be (hd1)[22:31:55] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[22:32:04] <HeTo> of course, the exact numbering depends on your BIOS and its settings[22:32:41] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[22:32:41] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[22:32:44] <helf|laptop> oh yeah, sorry[22:33:16] <helf|laptop> think an upgrade to an athlon x2 would be decent?[22:33:25] <helf|laptop> the latestbrisbane ones.. 2.9ghz dualcore[22:33:37] <mmadia> helf|laptop what's the starting cpu?[22:33:44] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[22:33:56] <helf|laptop> my trusty tualatin 1.4 :P[22:34:02] <mmadia> hell yes :)[22:34:06] <helf|laptop> i figured i might as well not go all out[22:34:09] <helf|laptop> and just do an upgrade like that[22:34:13] <helf|laptop> its cheaper[22:34:41] <mmadia> faster cpu, more L1&L2 cache, better system bus, incredibly faster ram,[22:34:51] <mmadia> a single cpu = one heatsource[22:35:14] <miqlas> Is the Haiku Code Drive 2009 join time closed now?[22:35:20] <CIA-9> korli * r30869 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/opengl/mesa_software_renderer/MesaSoftwareRenderer.cpp: don't try to allocate an empty BBitmap[22:35:30] <miqlas> Can somebody join now? Or it is closed?[22:35:34] <mmadia> miqlas : yes, it was a closed selection process this year.[22:35:39] <miqlas> Okay.[22:35:41] <miqlas> Thanks.[22:35:56] <mmadia> in the initial article, i mentioned why it was closed.[22:36:26] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[22:36:29] <gr00ber> BOOM[22:36:33] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[22:37:03] <helf|laptop> mmadia, yeah, figured so. the board im getting seems to be really upgradeable too[22:37:10] <philcostin> mmadia: just found your trac email instructions on the mailing list but it seems I already did that heh.. thanks for the hint anyway :P[22:37:32] <helf|laptop> an x2 5600 is like $50[22:37:33] <helf|laptop> :)[22:38:26] <mmadia> areyou going to go for the 45w processors? :)[22:39:27] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[22:40:36] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[22:42:34] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[22:43:11] <philcostin> wow I didn't see this earlier: http://www.osnews.com/comments/21562[22:43:18] <philcostin> nice going :)[22:44:20] <helf|laptop> i was going to get the fastest stock one i could[22:44:22] <helf|laptop> the 65 watters[22:44:30] <helf|laptop> but i might get a slower one[22:44:35] <mmadia> 45w --- ~1/3 power consumption :)[22:44:46] <helf|laptop> true :)[22:44:50] <helf|laptop> easier on the board too[22:45:08] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[22:45:39] <mmadia> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255[22:45:50] <mmadia> there might even be a slightly faster 45w cpu[22:46:40] <helf|laptop> oh wow, $56...[22:46:57] <helf|laptop> hm[22:47:01] <mmadia> this is the board and ram i picked up for it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130187 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269[22:47:13] <mmadia> $36! after MIR for 4gb ram![22:47:18] <MegafEee> HeTo, grub is booting up haiku[22:47:21] <MegafEee> but...[22:47:26] <MegafEee> i got a panic[22:47:44] <helf|laptop> heh[22:47:46] <MegafEee> could not wirte back block 124 (device timeout)[22:47:51] <helf|laptop> board been stable?[22:47:52] <MegafEee> write*[22:47:58] <helf|laptop> allows for future phenom upgrade which is nice[22:48:17] <mmadia> helf|laptop : i haven't been using it as much as i planned too..[22:48:22] <helf|laptop> oh[22:48:37] <HeTo> MegafEee: tried continue?[22:48:45] <mmadia> this was supposed to be one of the boxes for Bitten -- continuous integration of Haiku -- but that feel through the ice like a 4ton anchor :([22:48:51] <MegafEee> HeTo, no keyboard[22:49:05] <MegafEee> neither mouse[22:49:16] <helf|laptop> im watching an ASRock 939dual-vsta on ebay right now for $15 .. it has an adapter for AM2 chips and itll let me keep my agp cards so i wont have to buy a new video card[22:49:20] <helf|laptop> and itll handle 8gb ram[22:49:33] <mmadia> that has onboard ;)[22:49:48] <helf|laptop> a 6100[22:49:48] <helf|laptop> ew[22:49:49] <helf|laptop> :P[22:50:02] <mmadia> it works well enough for Haiku :D[22:50:07] <helf|laptop> im not using haiku :D[22:50:29] <mmadia> therein lays the problem :P[22:50:32] <V_Machine> yes my AMD Phenom 9950 Quad-Core Processor was only $80[22:50:47] <V_Machine> cpu power is cheap :)[22:50:47] *** miqlas has left #haiku[22:50:49] <helf|laptop> BE?[22:52:18] <helf|laptop> yeah, much as i want the latest and greatest, i dont need it and AMD parts are uber chea[22:52:19] <helf|laptop> p[22:52:20] <MegafEee> HeTo, i do not understand[22:52:30] <MegafEee> i rebooted and now is working[22:53:03] <HeTo> MegafEee: what is it that you're running Haiku from?[22:53:48] *** redj has joined #haiku[22:54:00] <helf|laptop> its kinda sad, my little sisters athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.6ghz beats/matches my granddads p4 672 @ 4ghz in pretty much every benchmark but memory bandwidth...[22:54:27] <HeTo> MegafEee: USB stick or a SATA drive or what?[22:55:08] <redj> hey, I'm porting some code to Haiku and I wonder if anyone could shed some light on _wmkdir not being found by ld? a google search (haiku+_wmkdir) doesn't turn up much at all.[22:56:24] *** mmlr has joined #haiku[22:56:40] <helf|laptop> bye all[22:56:44] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[22:56:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[22:56:51] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[22:56:54] <mmadia> march of the mm's![22:57:23] <gr00ber> BOOM[22:57:31] <redj> Teknomancer: hi there! I found that fs_set by looking at the Haiku source code like you mentionned, thanks. I actually got whole libraries to compile on Haiku.[22:57:41] <mmadia> what are you trying to port redj ?[22:57:43] <V_Machine> helf|laptop: Yes very sad, I got away from Pentium as soon as I got a taste of a P4 system in a laptop and my old sempron was kick its a$$ at a slight slower clock rate in compiles.[22:57:54] <V_Machine> kicking[22:57:58] <redj> Ecere SDK, anybody heard of it?[22:58:33] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[22:58:52] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[22:58:56] <Anarchos> mmadia i am trying to compile TeXLive for myself, but on a true beos for now :)[22:59:00] <mmadia> not before now.[22:59:01] <MegafEee> HeTo, sata[22:59:15] <MegafEee> and now im having problems to configure network...[22:59:24] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[22:59:30] <MegafEee> it gets the right ip address and gateway from dhcp[22:59:35] <MegafEee> but wrong dns server[22:59:42] <HeTo> MegafEee: and it's a hard drive, right, and not some possibly slow, cheap SSD?[22:59:50] <mmadia> it's possible that haiku doesn't provide a _wmkdir[23:00:00] <redj> Ecere is a cross-platform SDK with it's very own very cool language called eC (a superset of c with oop). porting it to Haiku is just my latest pet project, I do hope it'll get some interest at some point[23:00:01] <MegafEee> and nothing happens when i set up and click apply[23:00:12] <MegafEee> HeTo, is a desktop, normal hard disk[23:00:13] <MegafEee> sata I[23:00:17] *** RHarmsen has quit IRC[23:00:18] <MegafEee> working nicely[23:00:21] <redj> I'm also going to port it to as many other platforms as I can :D[23:00:55] *** SprMa has left #haiku[23:00:57] <Anarchos> redj it remembers me i didn't compile OCaml for haiku :)[23:01:10] <redj> Anarchos: hehe :)[23:01:22] <redj> mmadia: I think I read somewhere that Haiku has built-in UTF-something, is that right?[23:01:35] <redj> is it UTF-8 or UTF-16[23:01:36] <redj> ?[23:01:50] <mmlr> 8[23:02:13] <MegafEee> HeTo, when i edit resolv.conf and save i got error saving[23:02:17] <MegafEee> resolv.conf[23:02:20] <redj> mmlr: thanks for the short answer :)[23:02:26] <MegafEee> general system error[23:02:27] <mmlr> hehe[23:02:39] <mmlr> there's not much more to tell about it[23:02:46] <redj> indeed[23:02:49] <HeTo> MegafEee: sorry, don't know much about Haiku networking[23:02:53] <mmlr> it's used for basically all native strings[23:03:01] <redj> that's very good[23:03:01] <mmlr> in the guis and such[23:03:11] <redj> 8 is also the choice in ecere[23:03:15] <MegafEee> HeTo, my system is in read only[23:03:17] <HeTo> it's always worked for me when I've needed it[23:03:18] <MegafEee> fuck[23:03:30] <MegafEee> folks, haiku is in read only, why?[23:03:35] <redj> mmlr: in the fs as well?[23:03:53] <mmlr> in bfs as well, yes[23:04:01] <redj> cool[23:04:18] <redj> Haiku is cool[23:04:18] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[23:04:36] <MegafEee> mmu_laptop, haiku is in read only here, why?[23:05:30] <Anarchos> redj haiku is a poem by conception and by itself :)[23:06:02] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[23:06:08] <MegafEee> hey BePhantom[23:06:16] <MegafEee> i dont know what is going on here[23:06:20] <MegafEee> is in read only[23:06:27] <mmadia> MegafEee : please reduce the amount of times you ask the same question.[23:06:29][23:06:32] <mmu_laptop> MegafEee check the syslog, likely there is a BFS corruption[23:06:45] <BePhantom> i don't understand :D[23:06:52] <BePhantom> what happened? :P[23:06:55] <redj> what do mose people use as IDE when developing software in BeOS/Haiku? just text editor + compiler toolchain/[23:06:57] <redj> ?*[23:07:02] <mmlr> if the boot volume is read only you won't be able to see that in the syslog[23:07:09] <mmadia> redj : yes, typically Pe[23:07:22] <mmlr> as the syslog can't be written anymore[23:07:30] <mmlr> you can read it from the syslog output in kdl though[23:07:32] <redj> mmlr: yeah, I've been using it a bit, it's nice[23:07:33] <mmu_laptop> righto...[23:07:48] <mmu_laptop> or serial debug output[23:08:04] <mmu_laptop> redj yeah Pe works fine[23:08:06] <mmu_laptop> or vim[23:08:17] <mmadia> no! nano! *nudge* *joke*[23:08:19] <Anarchos> mmadia i use vim :)[23:08:24] <gr00ber> BOOM![23:08:43] <redj> I'm not a vim fan so far but that may be just because I don't know how to use it[23:08:57] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[23:08:58] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[23:09:09] <gr00ber> miqlas, welcome santafe[23:09:15] <gr00ber> miqlas, stop bugging me on PM[23:09:45] <Anarchos> redj "./vimtutor" :)[23:10:03] <HeTo> MegafEee: at which icon did it KDL the first time?[23:10:21] <MegafEee> im not sure[23:10:31] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[23:10:37] <MegafEee> but i think i know why is in read only[23:10:42] <MegafEee> ill try to fiz now[23:11:04] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[23:11:04] <MegafEee> fix[23:11:28] <redj> Anarchos: hehe, thanks[23:11:54] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[23:11:55] <Anarchos> redj and there is a gui to vim on beos[23:12:15] * redj likes GUIs[23:12:25] <redj> Anarchos: where? what's it called?[23:14:48] <Anarchos> redj "gvim" like "graphical vim", you can sureley find it on bebits[23:15:55] <HeTo> gvim still doesn't mean you don't have to learn a few basic commands[23:15:56] <redj> ok, cool. I have yet to install any application. I've only installed libld so far to help me compile. it was easy enough.[23:16:05] <HeTo> I think gvim is also part of Haiku currently[23:16:40] <redj> HeTo: I should learn vim first probably but I might not do that right away, Pe works fine so far[23:17:49] <Anarchos> redj vim is hard to begin. It took me several months[23:18:27] <tqh> redj, _wmkdir seems to be a windows function, so you probably need to find its declaration in some header in the code you are porting.[23:19:15] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:21:00] *** mmu_laptop has quit IRC[23:21:04] *** nibble has quit IRC[23:22:05] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[23:22:27] *** SprMa has left #haiku[23:22:44] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:28:20] <redj> what's the #if defined(__unix__) for haiku? __haiku__?[23:28:23] <redj> beos?[23:28:40] <miqlas> __HAIKU__[23:28:51] <miqlas> If i know correctly.[23:29:20] <MrSunshine_> aye its __HAIKU__[23:31:43] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[23:31:52] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[23:31:54] <CIA-9> zooey * r30870 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/ipv4/ipv4.cpp:[23:31:54] <CIA-9> * Fixed incorrect use of IN_MULTICAST in ipv4: the macro must be invoked[23:31:54] <CIA-9> on an address in host-byte-order, not network-byte-order.[23:31:54] <CIA-9> Basically this caused failure for all IP-traffic to any IP-address[23:31:54] <CIA-9> where the last byte & 0xF0 == 0xe0.[23:31:56] <CIA-9> Now we can surf www.pcre.org again ;-)[23:35:40] <CIA-9> korli * r30871 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/bc/bc/Jamfile: Fixed #1896 by using directly pregenerated bc.c and scan.c instead of bc.y and scan.l[23:36:19] *** philcostin has quit IRC[23:39:01] *** korli has quit IRC[23:42:56] *** korli has joined #haiku[23:42:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[23:47:35] *** korli has quit IRC[23:50:39] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[23:52:42] *** redblue has quit IRC[23:53:12] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku