May 25, 2009 
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May 25, 2009 [00:00:45] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[00:04:19] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30845 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/BuildSetup: Patch by Eric Petit: Fixed the library path for the build tools on Darwin.[00:06:17] *** paul0 has quit IRC[00:10:25] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30846 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/unix/UnixEndpoint.cpp:[00:10:25] <CIA-9> Patch by Eric Petit: A read select() should not block when there's not data[00:10:25] <CIA-9> available anymore and the remote end has been write-shut-down. Fixes #3536.[00:13:47] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:17:51] *** arigaya__ is now known as arigayas_away[00:22:05] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[00:30:09] *** wildur_ has quit IRC[00:33:12] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:33:41] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30847 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/coreutils/src/ls.c:[00:33:41] <CIA-9> * Reverted r30843.[00:33:41] <CIA-9> * Don't call abmon_init() when HAVE_NL_LANGINFO is not defined. It would[00:33:41] <CIA-9> always fail.[00:34:28] *** korli has joined #haiku[00:34:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[00:34:47] *** brechtm has quit IRC[00:37:23] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:38:47] *** nikla has quit IRC[00:39:25] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:48:33] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:52:45] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[00:57:13] *** redblue has joined #haiku[01:08:09] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[01:08:16] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30848 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/elf.cpp:[01:08:16] <CIA-9> Invalidate the elfHeader variable when the image struct is deleted on error, as[01:08:16] <CIA-9> they share the same pointer. Should fix bug #3955.[01:12:16] <CIA-9> korli * r30849 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): wakeup() means wake any waiting threads, so we use the relevant flags. this gives a reliable dv receive stream here.[01:13:37] *** miqlas_ has joined #haiku[01:16:34] *** korli has quit IRC[01:17:39] *** cherrypai has quit IRC[01:23:08] *** ThomasShirley has quit IRC[01:25:23] *** miqlas has quit IRC[01:30:01] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[01:44:00] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[01:59:24] *** luroh has quit IRC[02:04:38] *** hdanak has left #haiku[02:14:33] *** fcr has joined #haiku[02:14:37] *** redblue has quit IRC[02:27:21] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[02:29:27] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:30:24] *** surround1r has quit IRC[02:32:22] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[02:40:25] *** miqlas_ has quit IRC[02:42:40] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[02:43:55] *** surrounder has quit IRC[02:45:52] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[02:46:05] *** miqlas has quit IRC[02:47:16] *** helf has joined #haiku[02:48:11] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[02:48:39] <helf> hi[02:51:45] <MindChild> hoy[02:52:25] <helf> hey MindChild[02:52:29] <helf> still up for an IRIS[02:52:31] <helf> ?[02:52:39] <MindChild> I am[02:53:13] <helf> would you be able to meet halfway for a trade or ?[02:53:19] <MindChild> Left 4 Dead is so good[02:53:29] <MindChild> Well, Im willing, but it depends on my car situation[02:53:34] <MindChild> my current vehicle wont last 50 miles[02:53:41] <MindChild> but, Im hoping to get a new one real soon[02:53:42] <helf> uh oh, whats up wiht it?[02:53:50] <MindChild> It has 260k miles on it[02:53:52] <MindChild> thats what[02:53:53] <helf> i just had a transmission rebuild, so im good[02:53:54] <MindChild> heh[02:53:56] <helf> ah, heh[02:54:14] <MindChild> $1500 and I got 180k miles out of it[02:54:21] <helf> my transmission disintegrated last week[02:54:38] <helf> ive put 25k on my van so far and i only paid $1 for it ^_^[02:56:03] <MindChild> Well, other than the tires and breaks and the random not starting, now the car has developed this I-dont-care-what-gear-you-are-in-I-am-going-to-downshift-at-random-times syndrome[02:56:14] <helf> manual?[02:56:30] <helf> or automatic?[02:56:53] <MindChild> automatic[02:56:57] <MindChild> 98 chevy lumina[02:57:02] <MindChild> hands down best car I ever owned[02:57:08] <helf> i bet you could get that fixed for not much[02:57:17] <helf> sounds like the bands or something are going out[02:57:18] <MindChild> my next one will be the same... hopefully driven by an old lady only to the store and back[02:57:33] <helf> is that all thats wrong with your current one?[02:57:34] <MindChild> Well, the frame is literally rusting away[02:57:37] <MindChild> I need something else[02:57:37] <helf> oh ok[02:57:45] <helf> yeah, old lady cars rock[02:57:55] <helf> my grandmothers last two were that way and are like brand new.[02:58:01] <helf> garage kept with few miles for cheap :)[02:58:36] <helf> i still need that ram.. you know, whenever.. ;)[02:58:43] <helf> crap. gimme your shipping addy[02:58:44] *** miqlas has quit IRC[02:58:48] <helf> forgot your solaris media got sent back[03:03:15] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[03:04:25] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[03:06:49] *** miqlas has quit IRC[03:08:04] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[03:14:27] *** redblue has joined #haiku[03:18:48] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30850 /haiku/trunk/build/ (5 files in 2 dirs):[03:18:48] <CIA-9> Changed the way the zip archive with the alternative gcc libraries is built.[03:18:48] <CIA-9> Now that's done like building the network boot archive, which gives us a lot[03:18:48] <CIA-9> more flexibility for defining its contents.[03:37:21] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[03:48:52] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[03:54:26] <helf> hi Kokito[03:55:05] <Kokito> hi helf[03:58:54] <BePhantom> hello my friend helf :)[04:00:10] <helf> hi BePhantom , hows it in... argentina ?[04:02:09] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:03:24] <BePhantom> hi helf everything is fine here, how's everything in the good ol' usa?[04:04:20] <helf> good good, we have shown some more uncivilized cavemen the wonders of democracy via 50cal bullets again today ^_^[04:07:45] <BePhantom> really? where? what happened?[04:09:28] <helf> j/[04:09:31] <helf> *j/k[04:11:50] <BePhantom> :D[04:11:52] <BePhantom> hehe[04:15:10] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[04:43:46] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[04:44:49] <helf> holy crap[04:44:54] <helf> when did DDR400 get so expensive?[04:47:35] <BePhantom> im seriously considering buying an old pc to use it as a file download box[04:47:58] <BePhantom> i could get a p3[04:51:34] <helf> get a motherboard thatll handle tualatins[04:51:38] <helf> you can get them for dirt now[04:51:53] <BePhantom> tualatins?[04:51:55] <BePhantom> what's that?[04:52:40] <helf> the best model pentium 3[04:53:42] <BePhantom> there's a dual pentium 3 550mhz[04:53:43] <BePhantom> http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-53757235-_JM[04:54:10] <BePhantom> it's an ibm server, looks nice[04:56:08] <helf> $350?!?![04:56:10] <helf> good lord[04:56:40] <qoreQ> i had a model 500[04:56:45] <helf> netfinity's are good[04:56:51] <DraX> you can build a cheap pc with current hardware for 350[04:56:57] <DraX> pretty easily[04:57:00] <helf> yeah[04:57:08] <helf> you can build a quadcore machine for that[04:57:16] <helf> or atleast a good dualcore[04:57:20] <qoreQ> yeah[04:57:29] <DraX> there are advantages to that, likeyou can stick sata drives in it[04:57:32] <BePhantom> helf, 350$ is 92 dollars[04:57:34] <DraX> like 4 2tb drives[04:57:35] <helf> oh[04:57:42] <helf> forgot that wasnt usd[04:57:42] <helf> heh[04:57:49] <helf> 2tb drives are expensive[04:57:58] <helf> 92bucks isnt so bad :)[04:59:53] <BePhantom> helf, what about a sempron?[04:59:58] <BePhantom> http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-52904140-pc-amd-sempron-le-1250-geforce-6100-1gb-ddr2-gabinete-_JM[05:00:06] <BePhantom> that one doesnt look that bad[05:00:37] <BePhantom> it doesnt come with HD tho :P[05:01:33] <helf> what is that, $50 usd?[05:01:43] <BePhantom> that's in dollars[05:02:01] <BePhantom> U$S 154.99[05:02:09] <helf> oh[05:02:53] <BePhantom> is expensive for you isnt it?[05:03:40] <helf> yeah, a bit[05:03:52] *** Kokito has quit IRC[05:05:56] <BePhantom> im affraid that if i buy an old cheap used computer i'll eventually spend more money (and time) fixing it's hardware, you never now it's condition until you start using it[05:06:41] <helf> true[05:06:49] <BePhantom> i thought that i should buy a new one but cheap, no core 2 or anything like that[05:06:56] <helf> plus i have no idea what "good prices" are for Argentina[05:07:14] <BePhantom> computer hardware is expensive here unfortunately[05:07:17] <helf> how much are amd athlon 64s there?[05:07:34] <AlienSoldier> don't fear to ask for free computer around, it's surprising how much good pc are dumped[05:07:35] <BePhantom> X2?[05:07:49] <BePhantom> athlon x2?[05:07:50] <helf> yeah[05:07:58] <helf> yeah to AlienSoldier[05:08:06] <helf> how much are X2s there?[05:09:00] <BePhantom> 300 dollars, without monitor and everything onboard[05:09:02] <AlienSoldier> i guess it's possible to get dual core for free now (P4 have been free for a while)[05:11:31] <BePhantom> how much does it cost there helf?[05:11:47] <BePhantom> a basic X2[05:11:55] <BePhantom> with video onboard[05:13:17] <helf> no idea[05:13:50] <BePhantom> i bet it must be around 100, 150[05:14:48] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[05:14:59] <BePhantom> there are a couple of athom[05:15:02] <BePhantom> atom[05:18:32] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[05:20:41] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:21:36] <BePhantom> my sister has an old 486 dx4 100mhz, i dont know if it works i should check it sometime this week[05:24:48] <helf> sorry, gotta run.[05:24:52] *** helf has quit IRC[05:29:28] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[05:45:27] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[05:47:41] *** fcr has quit IRC[05:48:00] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[05:59:31] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[06:04:35] *** evdubs has quit IRC[06:08:05] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[06:14:55] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[06:15:20] <Carbamide> Good evening[06:26:43] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[06:27:52] *** surround1r has quit IRC[06:43:41] *** El_Kitten is now known as Maya-sama[06:45:33] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[06:52:36] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[06:55:29] *** hdanak_ has joined #haiku[06:58:40] *** hdanak_ has left #haiku[07:26:56] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[07:27:05] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[07:33:56] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[07:51:11] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[07:57:05] * ulterior_modem fades into the black[08:02:28] *** miqlas has quit IRC[08:05:10] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[08:14:33] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[08:16:42] *** nikla has joined #haiku[08:18:59] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[08:46:56] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[09:02:50] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[09:17:45] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[09:19:41] *** nikla is now known as nikla|away[09:25:24] *** nikla|away is now known as nikla[09:27:37] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[09:31:53] *** redblue has quit IRC[09:34:30] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[09:37:16] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[09:42:09] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[09:42:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[09:45:31] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[09:48:08] *** salvatore_ has joined #haiku[09:56:09] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[09:56:54] *** redblue has joined #haiku[10:04:17] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[10:07:53] *** ThomasShirley has joined #haiku[10:13:17] *** salvatore_ has quit IRC[10:26:52] *** surrounder has quit IRC[10:32:07] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[10:41:02] *** nikla is now known as nikla|away[10:41:02] *** nikla|away is now known as nikla[10:41:35] <Teknomancer> mornign[10:43:02] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[10:56:21] *** redjOnHaiku has joined #haiku[11:00:45] <redjOnHaiku> Hi!, I'm trying to port some code to Haiku, does anyone know about DualPipe stuff and if it applies to Haiku? -- http://pastebin.com/m4a709060[11:02:01] <Teknomancer> redjOnHaiku: hmm for piping you might want to see the Haiku sources for "BCommandPipe" class[11:02:32] <redjOnHaiku> oh, good hint Teknomancer, thanks![11:02:55] <redjOnHaiku> Haiku is nice, how many users would you say it has?[11:03:07] <redjOnHaiku> developers I should say[11:03:24] <Teknomancer> the main developers are still very few[11:03:42] <Teknomancer> probably 15-20 at most[11:04:02] <Teknomancer> redjOnHaiku: you can check the commit timeline though[11:04:25] <redjOnHaiku> again, spot on, thanks![11:05:04] <redjOnHaiku> I hope this little project of mine goes well, I might drop by from time to time.[11:05:20] <redjOnHaiku> btw, what do you do on the project Teknomancer?[11:06:30] <Teknomancer> redjOnHaiku: to haiku directly i didn't contribute much, just a couple of classes, but i used to write beos software[11:07:26] <redjOnHaiku> I need to read up on BeOS history... i.e. how many users did they have back then...[11:07:48] <Teknomancer> i wrote the commandpipe class btw ;)[11:07:58] <redjOnHaiku> hehe, cool[11:08:17] *** ThomasShirley has quit IRC[11:08:18] <Teknomancer> redjOnHaiku: lots of info on the web on beos/haiku[11:08:22] <redjOnHaiku> I'll have a look...[11:08:27] <redjOnHaiku> indeed[11:08:47] <redjOnHaiku> thank Teknomancer, ttyl[11:09:07] <redjOnHaiku> thanks*[11:10:21] *** Svarthandske has joined #haiku[11:10:27] *** redjOnHaiku has left #haiku[11:42:07] *** nikla has quit IRC[12:06:13] *** ThomasShirley has joined #haiku[12:06:18] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[12:06:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[12:11:25] *** nikla has joined #haiku[12:12:21] *** nikla is now known as nikla|away[12:12:25] *** nikla|away is now known as nikla[12:27:49] *** rennj has quit IRC[12:28:43] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[12:38:06] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[12:40:38] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[12:41:48] *** glootech has quit IRC[12:42:11] 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it[15:49:15] <mmadia42> fixed :)[15:54:16] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[16:00:55] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30851 /haiku/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)[16:00:55] <CIA-9> * {BEntry,BNode}::GetStat() were still passing the BeOS struct stat size to[16:00:55] <CIA-9> the syscall. Anything beyond st_mtim was therefore not filled in. Fixes[16:00:55] <CIA-9> the incorrectly shown creation times in Tracker.[16:00:55] <CIA-9> * The BStatable::GetStat() solution was not sufficient yet. We still have to[16:00:58] <CIA-9> provide the old GetStat() symbol for BNode and BEntry, since those could be[16:01:00] <CIA-9> used by old applications/libraries. We also still have to implement the old[16:04:11] *** nikla has quit IRC[16:06:25] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[16:07:34] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[16:09:22] *** markos_ has quit IRC[16:18:54] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[16:23:55] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[16:24:32] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[16:26:02] *** nikla has joined #haiku[16:38:33] *** nikla has quit IRC[16:43:16] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[16:49:36] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[16:50:25] *** cherrypai has joined #haiku[16:50:41] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[16:57:10] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[16:57:22] *** Svarthandske has quit IRC[16:57:34] <mmadia42> PulkoMandy , do you build Haiku within Haiku?[16:58:25] <PulkoMandy> no, my network card isn't supported, and i'm using wifi most of the time... so I prefer to use linux[17:03:27] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[17:24:12] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[17:24:52] *** SprMa has left #haiku[17:25:30] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:29:06] <V_Machine> how is Haiku with pcmcia (cardbus) and athros ethernet?[17:30:14] <V_Machine> Going to stop by the computer grave yard :)[17:30:29] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[17:30:38] <mmadia42> iirc, haiku doesn't support pcmcia at all.[17:30:46] *** SprMa has left #haiku[17:31:51] <V_Machine> good to know :)[17:31:53] <V_Machine> ty[17:32:34] <V_Machine> hmmm any usb ether adapters then ??[17:37:04] <V_Machine> well I am off c ya[17:43:38] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[17:45:04] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[17:46:45] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[17:53:46] *** nikla has joined #haiku[17:54:53] *** luroh has joined #haiku[18:06:23] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[18:07:52] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[18:09:39] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[18:10:53] *** paul0 has quit IRC[18:10:58] <umccullough_aa1> Newegg is running a special this afternoon to pick up an MSI GeForce 9800GT for $72.99 ($52.99 after rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127406[18:11:03] <umccullough_aa1> worth it?[18:12:23] <umccullough_aa1> 112 stream processors in that one....[18:12:32] <umccullough_aa1> boy, that would boost my distributed computing a bit :)[18:15:44] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[18:16:58] <mmadia42> the heatsink looks a bit wimpy[18:18:26] <umccullough_aa1> eh, don't care[18:18:50] <umccullough_aa1> it'll either go in my dell at work, or my machine here which has two 120mm fans in the case[18:19:00] *** nikla is now known as nikla|away[18:19:34] <umccullough_aa1> i think i'll go for it :)[18:20:07] <umccullough_aa1> and i think i will put it in the machine at work afterall[18:21:21] *** nikla|away is now known as nikla[18:26:41] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[18:28:35] *** umccullough_aa1 has quit IRC[18:40:21] *** awpeter has quit IRC[18:42:48] *** surround2r has quit IRC[18:46:29] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[18:49:43] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[18:50:58] *** thotypous has quit IRC[19:07:10] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[19:08:49] *** _-Caleb-_ 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exactly how bad the brain damage is.[20:03:10] <Carbamide> The EEG tech didn't show up today, like it was planned.[20:03:13] <gordonjcp> Carbamide: tell you what[20:03:26] <Carbamide> yeah?[20:03:30] <gordonjcp> having been in a similar situation, start by assuming "pretty bad"[20:03:35] <gordonjcp> and work back from that[20:03:49] <Carbamide> To be honest, I don't have a lot of hope.[20:03:51] <luroh> V_Machine: there are some dc clients that use the gpu for the calculations rather than the cpu[20:03:57] <gordonjcp> sounds a bit morbid, but then anything else you find out is a nice surprise[20:04:16] <luroh> gpus are apparently better suited for crunching some algos[20:04:18] <V_Machine> really, I did not know that[20:04:32] <luroh> like, an order of magnitude better[20:08:13] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[20:08:46] *** UiX has joined #haiku[20:15:51] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[20:18:32] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[20:19:58] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[20:20:26] *** 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working ok on haiku[21:01:35] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[21:02:02] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[21:02:06] *** luroh has quit IRC[21:02:45] *** luroh has joined #haiku[21:07:25] *** VinDuv|away is now known as VinDuv[21:07:45] *** nibble has joined #haiku[21:08:03] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[21:08:52] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[21:12:30] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[21:23:31] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[21:23:46] <expensivelesbian> hello[21:24:30] <expensivelesbian> I've just been reading a discussion on the Haiku-dev mailing list, about including InfoPopper into the OS, as a default offered option.[21:24:49] <mmadia42> yup. :)[21:25:12] <expensivelesbian> Cool beans, but is im_kit up for likewise consideration, subject to Axel's proviso for refactored, consistent API naming?[21:25:24] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[21:25:31] <mmadia42> im_kit is nowhere yet ready for inclusion.[21:25:40] <mmadia42> in comparison to infopopper.[21:26:15] <expensivelesbian> I don't consider myself an IM junkie, but since BeOS was at it's prime, it's something I'd consider a fairly essential part of the modern OS "experience"[21:26:16] <mmadia42> though, that'd still be an interesting question for the mailing list :D[21:26:30] <expensivelesbian> well, yes. Last time I installed im_kit to BeOS it was...not much fun[21:26:34] <expensivelesbian> to say the least[21:26:45] <expensivelesbian> cool when it worked, but getting there. Yikes.[21:26:52] <mmadia42> tell me about it. i helped package the r618 and r62x releases :)[21:28:21] <expensivelesbian> I'll see about signing up for the mailing list and maybe posting the question. Doesn't seem like a very dev type question though. Perhaps just a mention on the forums would be enough to raise the topic[21:28:57] <mmadia42> it could be good for [haiku][21:30:16] <expensivelesbian> yeah, I think so also. 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