May 21, 2009 
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May 21, 2009 [00:00:32] *** awpeter has quit IRC[00:03:04] <oxygene> no, just a bug in my local tree. phew :)[00:03:21] <dr_evil> messing with PCI? why that?[00:03:23] <oxygene> the resource allocator and everything related to it is among the nastiest parts of coreboot[00:03:25] <mmadia> it's the developers' fault!~~~!!![00:03:39] <oxygene> dr_evil: local coreboot tree[00:07:20] <dr_evil> you trying to boot hiku usung coreboot bios?[00:08:10] <oxygene> yes[00:11:28] *** szczur has joined #haiku[00:12:08] <szczur> hi[00:17:31] <Verdant_Machine> coreboot looks scary[00:17:40] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[00:20:45] <oxygene> scary?[00:22:08] <mmadia> hello szczur[00:22:16] <Verdant_Machine> WARNING: This will overwrite your current BIOS! Make sure you know what you're doing! You should have a way to revert back to the original BIOS in case anything goes wrong.[00:22:20] <Verdant_Machine> scary[00:22:59] <dr_evil> yes, if you have just a single board, it is[00:23:59] <oxygene> sockets for flash chips and an external flasher (or flash chip emulator, which is more convenient)[00:24:04] <dr_evil> coreboot has a nice new tool, http://www.coreboot.org/Flashrom but i havent tried anything yet[00:24:14] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[00:25:10] <oxygene> dr_evil: if the haiku userland has access to inb/outb and friends, porting it should be quite simple[00:26:06] <dr_evil> userland hasn't, but you can just pass this through with a simple driver[00:26:33] <oxygene> ah, like we do on OSX[00:28:01] * dr_evil has worked with BDI2000[00:29:13] <dr_evil> writing AMD flash with BDM debug interface[00:29:45] <oxygene> no jtag here.. http://www.coreboot.org/Artecgroup_programmable_LPC_dongle is pretty much the only exotic tool I use (though I'll need some SPI flash device soonish)[00:30:54] <dr_evil> also with EBDI-Lite[00:31:02] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[00:31:42] * dr_evil likes this stuff, but doesn't have time for it[00:36:18] <Verdant_Machine> been awhile since I seriously damaged a computer. I will put coreboot on my list of things to screw up.[00:37:02] <oxygene> my current problem is that we default to sharing ata/sata on ata-legacy - haiku doesn't seem to like that. anyway, no more time for playing for now..[00:39:07] <gordonjcp> Verdant_Machine: I recently bricked an Avaya 4602 in spectacular fashion, to the extent that I may need to buy another to pull an image off with JTAG[00:40:51] *** ulterior_modem_ has quit IRC[00:41:48] *** szczur has quit IRC[00:42:27] *** ThomasShirley has quit IRC[00:48:52] <Verdant_Machine> Yes I will have to practice backing up, installing, and restoring on a low value board[00:49:08] <Verdant_Machine> got a few in mind[00:51:49] <BePhantom> mmadia, I got some cool news :)[00:52:01] <mmadia> ..?[00:57:20] *** redblue has joined #haiku[01:00:33] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[01:03:23] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[01:03:42] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[01:05:51] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[01:07:31] <CIA-20> zooey * r30807 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/team.cpp:[01:07:31] <CIA-20> * when forking a team, not only the signal mask, but also the sig_actions[01:07:31] <CIA-20> and the signal stack must be copied into the new thread (at least that's[01:07:31] <CIA-20> what I could make of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 regarding the expected behaviour[01:07:31] <CIA-20> of fork)[01:07:32] <CIA-20> This brings down the failures of the rsync test suite from 24 to 18 ...[01:09:41] *** olta_away has quit IRC[01:13:21] *** koo51 has joined #haiku[01:14:36] *** redblue is now known as redb1ue[01:17:15] *** Karurosu has joined #haiku[01:18:53] *** koo5 has quit IRC[01:22:22] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[01:25:04] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[01:25:21] *** Karurosu_ has quit IRC[01:29:49] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[01:41:56] <Verdant_Machine> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly[01:41:56] <Verdant_Machine> svn update[01:41:56] <Verdant_Machine> U src/system/kernel/team.cpp[01:41:56] <Verdant_Machine> A src/documentation/docbook-xsl/RELEASE-NOTES.html[01:42:06] <Verdant_Machine> Interesting quark of subversion[01:47:51] <BePhantom> is this real? http://haiku-os.it/immagini/news/hidget.jpg or is it photoshoped?[01:52:09] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[01:54:34] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[01:56:01] *** oco has quit IRC[02:02:36] <BePhantom> stpere_, here and/or there?[02:03:37] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:05:01] <Verdant_Machine> what is the current size of Hiaku's source tree?[02:06:38] <mmadia> that depends, Verdant_Machine is that with or without buildtools?[02:06:49] <Verdant_Machine> without[02:06:57] <mmadia> less than a 1gb[02:07:03] <Verdant_Machine> ok cool[02:07:19] <Verdant_Machine> all most done then[02:07:30] <mmadia> though, on disk is larger, due to block size discrepency[02:08:03] <Verdant_Machine> yeah, I just wanted a ball park[02:08:22] <Verdant_Machine> if you said something like 4gigs I would have just gone to bed early today LOL[02:08:51] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[02:11:04] <AlienSoldier> i have an interesting question. Is the rate of new haiku develloper is growing faster than for pre BeOS 4.5 in it's time?[02:11:19] <BePhantom> mmadia, should i submit a ticket with that typo?[02:12:34] * pyCube plays with epydoc[02:14:48] <mmadia> BePhantom sure. want to include a patch?[02:15:10] <BePhantom> mmadia, i dont know how to do that[02:15:16] <BePhantom> the patch thing[02:15:26] <mmadia> edit and save the file.[02:15:45] <mmadia> then from /path/haiku (the top-level of your local haiku source tree),[02:16:16] <mmadia> run svn diff /path/to/file_or_directory > ~/Desktop/filename-typo.patch[02:16:43] <mmadia> that'll create a patch and place it on your Desktop[02:17:03] <BePhantom> wait, i'll install vbox[02:17:45] <BePhantom> and i'll try there[02:19:14] <Verdant_Machine> cool, I will have to remember that[02:22:49] *** djiin has quit IRC[02:26:45] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[02:31:52] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[02:31:55] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[02:31:58] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:40:19] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[02:44:24] *** surrounder has quit IRC[02:47:50] <BePhantom> haiku wont boot on my athlon x2 desktop[02:47:52] <BePhantom> :P[02:53:37] <BePhantom> mmadia, do i need internet to do the svn thing?[02:54:33] <BePhantom> haiku wont recognise any network adapter[02:55:13] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30808 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/ (20 files):[02:55:13] <CIA-20> * Moved most code of the heavy elf.cpp into several smaller source files.[02:55:13] <CIA-20> * Some style cleanup.[03:04:46] <mmadia> BePhantom , no, svn diff works using the .svn folders[03:06:05] <BePhantom> mmadia, you told me i have to edit and save a file, which one?[03:06:18] <mmadia> the one that has the typo in it.[03:06:48] <BePhantom> the thing is that i dont know where is[03:07:26] <pyCube> why is lamb (as food) so good?[03:09:28] <mmadia> BePhantom , you colud try a source search: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source for the offending word[03:10:18] <stpere_> pyCube: because it's a baby[03:10:44] <BePhantom> mmadia, awesome[03:10:49] <BePhantom> found it[03:13:55] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[03:14:05] <BePhantom> mmadia, can i download the file from that page in ubuntu and edit it?[03:14:29] <mmadia> you may need to preform a svn checkout of just that file.[03:16:53] *** halfhelf has joined #haiku[03:18:05] <BePhantom> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1117724/StatusView.cpp-typo.patch :P[03:21:14] <mmadia> yeah, that didnt work as expected.[03:21:38] <BePhantom> :)[03:21:40] <halfhelf> hi[03:21:47] <mmadia> hey josh[03:22:10] <BePhantom> i'll tell stpere_ to fix it, it's kind of hard to do[03:22:15] <pyCube> hello helf|laptop[03:22:36] <halfhelf> i dont remember anythiung past the dentist about to give me the iv sedative to knock me out and then puking about 1.5 hours later at home[03:22:55] <halfhelf> apparently only losing a bit over an hour of memory is pretty good[03:23:12] <halfhelf> freaking jaw is sore[03:23:16] <pyCube> heh[03:23:31] <halfhelf> not as bad as i thought it would be tho[03:23:36] <halfhelf> had 5 teeth yanked[03:24:22] <halfhelf> i liked my dentist, tho :)[03:25:39] <mmadia> 5?[03:28:13] <halfhelf> all for wisdoms and a really bad molar in the back[03:28:20] <halfhelf> four[03:33:09] <pyCube> hmm.. well i didnt see a dentist, but I did fix teh outside door latch on the passenger side of my car[03:33:11] <pyCube> hehe[03:33:23] <pyCube> first time its worked since i bought it[03:33:37] <halfhelf> nice[03:33:41] <halfhelf> :)[03:34:05] <pyCube> an amazingly simple stupid piece of plastic needed replacing[03:34:31] <halfhelf> its usually something minor :)[03:42:37] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[03:45:43] *** RandomInsano has joined #haiku[03:53:56] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:59:46] *** fcr_ is now known as fcr[04:04:09] *** Master199 has quit IRC[04:10:46] *** stpere_ is now known as stpere[04:14:05] *** stpere is now known as stpere_[04:14:51] *** stpere_ is now known as stpere[04:17:21] *** geist has joined #haiku[04:17:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[04:17:59] *** stpere is now known as stpere_[04:18:13] *** stpere_ is now known as stpere[04:23:02] <stpere> sorry about that noise[04:23:10] <Verdant_Machine> hmmm the build seems to be going without a hitch. another bad omen[04:23:51] <stpere> night[04:23:56] <Verdant_Machine> If a third thing works the first time for me today I may think about buying life insurance[04:23:57] <Verdant_Machine> gn[04:24:09] *** fcr_ has joined #haiku[04:24:32] *** Geoz has quit IRC[04:25:54] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[04:26:12] *** fcr has quit IRC[04:26:22] *** fcr_ is now known as fcr[04:26:59] *** halfhelf has quit IRC[04:35:07] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[04:38:10] <pyCube_> d[04:40:34] *** Geoz has quit IRC[04:48:52] * JonathanThompson poits pyCube_[04:54:15] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[04:54:39] * AlienSoldier wonder if JonathanThompson have a disco poit leather coat[04:54:54] * JonathanThompson gets out his repoit performance dancing coat[04:56:20] <pyCube_> hi JonathanThompson[05:00:13] *** redb1ue has quit IRC[05:08:07] *** redblue has joined #haiku[05:09:42] <JonathanThompson> Hi pyCube_[05:10:13] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[05:10:49] <pyCube_> JonathanThompson: how've ya been?[05:10:57] <JonathanThompson> stressed![05:11:53] * JonathanThompson thinks perhaps he's understating his reality[05:11:57] <pyCube_> dont stress out about it.. if you do, you now have the problem that is causing stress AND stress to deal with.. heh[05:12:07] <JonathanThompson> Such words of wisdom :P[05:12:25] <JonathanThompson> "You think you have a problem before? You stress out, now you have TWO problems!"[05:12:31] <pyCube_> exactly[05:12:53] <JonathanThompson> Attempting to liquidate what I reasonably can, due to my dire financial/living arrangement reality.[05:13:10] <pyCube_> eesh..that sucks[05:13:12] <JonathanThompson> At least that'll make it easier to move into another smaller place, which will cost less, too.[05:13:15] <pyCube_> sorry to hear[05:13:31] <JonathanThompson> I do have a short-term "solution" until I get back on my feet, or get paid back, or something...[05:13:57] <JonathanThompson> (But far from ideal: sharing a 1 bedroom apartment with another guy from church, who offered, but is less than enthused about the situation: I can't blame him myself)[05:14:25] <JonathanThompson> Means most of my stuff will be in storage for some unknown amount of time, of course.[05:15:28] <JonathanThompson> Here's the thing: I figure with the way reality is currently, and is likely to be in the next 5 years, it'd be wise for me to arrange it such that I can fit completely within an efficiency apartment, and live off of only what I get paid via unemployment.[05:15:54] <JonathanThompson> I'm thinking the next 5 years or so there will be some weird gyrations of inflation/deflation/stagflation and employment instability.[05:16:24] <JonathanThompson> I'd wager you'd better stick where you're at: entertainment never seems to die, if they do it right, though individual projects die.[05:18:06] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson, what's your religion?[05:18:16] <BePhantom> you said a guy from church[05:18:20] <JonathanThompson> Towards that end, I've been figuring out the details for modular furniture that'd make it extremely easy to live entirely within the furniture as permanent/moving storage, as well as functional for sleeping/eating/living on.[05:18:31] <JonathanThompson> LDS, BePhantom: AKA Mormon.[05:18:35] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[05:18:53] <BePhantom> oh i see, my best friend is mormon too[05:18:58] <JonathanThompson> Doesn't mean that everyone wants to be/have roommates :D[05:19:10] * JonathanThompson only wants a roommate that he marries, personally[05:19:21] <JonathanThompson> Female roommate ;)[05:20:04] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[05:20:10] <BePhantom> you may want to add "hot"[05:20:23] <JonathanThompson> That's a good attribute, yes :D[05:20:32] <umccullough> and horny[05:20:33] * JonathanThompson wants a fit wife[05:21:12] <BePhantom> female roomate non smoker non ugly[05:21:29] <JonathanThompson> Well, if she's a good church member, she'll at least be a non-smoker :)[05:21:43] <JonathanThompson> (If not, I have zero interest whatsoever: she'd kill me with the smoke)[05:22:05] <BePhantom> :D[05:22:57] <pyCube_> a number of my close friends throughout highschool were mormons.. and every one of them ended up excommunicated[05:23:09] <JonathanThompson> It happens...[05:23:14] <JonathanThompson> Were they into drugs?[05:23:18] <JonathanThompson> (That happens, too)[05:23:23] <pyCube_> some, but not all[05:23:28] <JonathanThompson> That's one of many possibilities.[05:23:34] <umccullough> into girls? (literally?)[05:23:38] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson, did you go on mission?[05:23:39] <pyCube_> that too[05:23:47] <JonathanThompson> I have not done that, BePhantom.[05:23:51] <JonathanThompson> I may later in life, though.[05:24:04] <JonathanThompson> Well, being too into girls is another way that's possible :)[05:24:04] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson, ok :)[05:24:09] <JonathanThompson> (outside of marriage)[05:24:30] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson, you could be sent abroad ;)[05:24:33] <pyCube_> JonathanThompson: one friend went to japan on a mission.. ended up married[05:24:36] <pyCube_> hehe[05:24:41] * JonathanThompson hopes BePhantom sends him a good broad[05:24:48] <umccullough> after my mormon friends got back from their missions, they and I sort of drifted apart :P[05:24:49] <JonathanThompson> That's known to happen, too :D[05:25:10] <pyCube_> but he shouldnt have gotten to go to japan..its where he wanted to go.. mostly to get married i think.. hehe[05:25:28] <pyCube_> help to have high ranking fam members[05:25:30] <pyCube_> helps[05:25:30] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:25:33] <JonathanThompson> It's hard to say at times why one location is chosen over another :)[05:25:50] <BePhantom> many american mormons come here to my country,[05:25:54] <JonathanThompson> Actually, I don't think that has as much to do with things as you'd think, pyCube_ :)[05:25:58] <BePhantom> i met a few[05:26:20] <pyCube_> JonathanThompson: what about being llowed back in post excommunication ?[05:26:24] <pyCube_> allowed[05:26:34] <JonathanThompson> Now, if your friend already had been speaking/reading/writing Japanese, that has some influence.[05:27:03] <JonathanThompson> You can definitely get back as a member after being excommunicated, but there's a definite process involved, pyCube_.[05:27:11] <pyCube_> i see[05:27:23] <JonathanThompson> (And just because someone is excommunicated doesn't mean they're prevented from going to church)[05:27:28] <pyCube_> anyway.. it was interesting having mormon friends[05:27:45] <umccullough> ditto[05:28:01] <JonathanThompson> There are certain things that if they are caught doing, they wouldn't be allowed back in the right situation: the catholic church would be wise to have followed such a policy.[05:28:11] <pyCube_> and they all had trampolines...without exception[05:28:23] * JonathanThompson laughs[05:28:27] <umccullough> aw, mine didn't :([05:28:31] <BePhantom> my best friend is mormon, he went on a mission and he came back but he's still the same, although he kind of doing following his own beliefs and not the church[05:28:34] * JonathanThompson never had one[05:28:45] <BePhantom> remove "doing":)[05:28:47] * JonathanThompson feels deprived[05:28:50] <umccullough> my mormon friend families did always have a van though[05:29:03] * JonathanThompson nods[05:29:09] <pyCube_> hehe[05:29:36] <JonathanThompson> Stationwagons were more common when I was growing up, at least that's what my family generally had ;)[05:29:42] <pyCube_> and in boy scouts[05:29:57] <umccullough> yup[05:30:10] <umccullough> they drug me along to plenty of boy scout events :D[05:30:22] <JonathanThompson> That sounds about right, umccullough :D[05:31:06] <JonathanThompson> I reduced my printer's price down to $400 from $500, and some idiot asked if I'd be willing to take $150 for it...[05:31:22] <umccullough> ebay?[05:31:28] <pyCube_> i got one "drunk" in 8th grade.. took the label off a bottle of koala springs seltzery drink and told him it was a wine cooler.. one swig and he was paranoid the rest of the day[05:31:33] <JonathanThompson> A full-color, full-duplex networkable PostScript laser printer made for an office duty.[05:31:38] <JonathanThompson> Craig's List.[05:32:04] <JonathanThompson> I thought of responding something less than rude, but then thought perhaps I should just ignore them.[05:32:22] <umccullough> probalby best to ignore :/[05:32:28] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[05:32:30] <JonathanThompson> Someone else wanted to trade me software for an unopened, new hard drive at less than half original price.[05:32:41] <JonathanThompson> Yeah: don't give them out my email address to pester me with ;)[05:33:20] * JonathanThompson needs to leave to do something before something closes... hopefully not already too late[05:33:42] * umccullough goes to google his mormon friends to see what they've been up to[05:35:00] * BePhantom goes somewhere so he wont be left out[05:35:42] *** TheNerd_WK has joined #haiku[05:36:21] <BePhantom> pyCube_ you evil :D[05:36:26] <pyCube_> ?[05:36:30] <pyCube_> heh[05:37:38] <BePhantom> boy scouts are not that common here[05:38:42] <pyCube_> i was really excited by the idea.. i had it in my mind that it was about stuff like survival skills and useful knowledge.. then i joined and found it was cheesey arts and crafts at some persons house.. f--k that[05:40:13] <BePhantom> haha[05:40:20] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[05:41:16] <umccullough> oh wow[05:41:26] <umccullough> interesting to see what old friends are up to :)[05:41:44] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[05:41:50] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[05:45:04] <geist> pyCube_: and a bunch of bible stuff[05:45:08] <BePhantom> is synaptics touchpad driver disabled in haiku?[05:45:19] <BePhantom> because it wont work :([05:45:38] <BePhantom> or there's no support at all?[05:45:44] <pyCube_> yeah[05:45:54] <pyCube_> @ geist[05:45:56] <pyCube_> heh[05:46:33] <geist> that's why i never actually got eagle scout[05:46:48] <geist> to do your eagle scout project, it was generally assumed youd do something nice for your local church[05:48:03] <pyCube_> i never got past boys scouts.. got wolf, and started amassing arrows and badges and whatever the hell it was..wasnt old enough to progress, so i quit[05:49:13] <geist> ah cub scouts[05:50:10] <pyCube_> right.. cub scouts[05:50:49] <BePhantom> such a ripoff :D[05:51:01] <BePhantom> and you have to pay to become a member right?[05:51:03] <BePhantom> :P[05:51:14] <geist> well, now that much really[05:51:24] <geist> the whole thing is a nonprofit[05:51:42] *** TheNerd has quit IRC[05:51:56] * umccullough has his cubscout uniform still![05:52:03] <pyCube_> i dont like the whole "good citizenship" thing[05:52:05] <umccullough> i made it to webelos[05:52:23] <geist> we be losers[05:52:27] <geist> tha's what it means, you know[05:52:29] <pyCube_> i didnt want social BS, i wanted survival skills ..hehe[05:52:33] <umccullough> ah, good to know![05:53:04] <umccullough> it was about that time when i realized most of the kids in cub scouts weren't the kind of people i wanted to hang out with :/[05:53:24] <umccullough> so i never progressed into boy scouts much, other than hanging out with my two mormon friends on occasion[05:53:50] <umccullough> beleive it or not, my cubscout uniform came in handy for a scavenger hunt a few years back[05:54:00] <pyCube_> i found taking off into the hills with my pellet gun to be a muchbetter use of time[05:54:22] <umccullough> i found sitting in front of a computer with little direct social contact was much more enjoyable[05:54:53] <umccullough> although, i did plenty of backcountry hiking alone as well ;)[05:55:05] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[05:55:07] <pyCube_> my time was pretty well divided between those two activities. hehe[05:55:17] <umccullough> my mom probably would have had a heart attack if she knew how far i used to travel backwoods[05:55:44] <umccullough> used to hike/ride up the hill to town - about 15 miles away and a 1000ft elevation climb[05:55:45] <pyCube_> yeah.. hehe.. my mom was pretty good about knowing to just not ask..[05:56:30] <pyCube_> as long as i showed up by dinner...[05:56:36] <umccullough> yup[05:56:45] <umccullough> or called from a friends house ;)[05:56:49] <pyCube_> right[05:56:53] <pyCube_> hehe[05:58:25] <umccullough> goddamn rap chop stuck in my head now[05:59:19] * umccullough shares the love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA[06:01:43] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:02:58] <geist> that's pretty great[06:03:19] <umccullough> check the jam wow[06:04:07] * BePhantom agrees with geist[06:05:09] <pyCube_> hehe[06:09:17] *** Penix has joined #haiku[06:19:22] <BePhantom> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/texas_constructs_u_s_border_wall :D[06:20:14] <umccullough> just now? i would have thought they did that years ago[06:21:23] <BePhantom> it's the onion, they make fake news[06:21:31] <umccullough> i know[06:21:47] <umccullough> my brother-in-law moved to texas not long ago[06:21:55] <BePhantom> http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Texas-wall-map-redo.jpg haha[06:24:49] <BePhantom> umccullough, is he happy there? :P[06:25:19] <pyCube_> i lived in texas for a while when i was young.. like 3-4 years old[06:26:56] <pyCube_> and i drove through it twice back in 98.. heh[06:27:17] * JonathanThompson is back[06:27:19] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[06:28:43] *** surround1r has quit IRC[06:29:42] * BePhantom hides from 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Patch by scottmc: updated p7zip package. Thanks a lot![11:55:46] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[11:56:37] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[11:56:44] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:56:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[11:56:46] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[11:57:56] *** rennj has joined #haiku[12:03:13] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[12:04:59] *** tqh has quit IRC[12:13:09] *** korli has joined #haiku[12:13:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[12:15:51] *** warpdesign has quit IRC[12:23:28] <Teknomancer> morning[12:27:16] <gordonjcp> morning[12:29:54] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[12:33:29] *** idefix_dommel has left #haiku[12:37:17] <CIA-20> korli * r30810 /haiku/vendor/mesa/current/src/ (21 files in 5 dirs): updating mesa vendor with version 7.4.2[12:37:50] <CIA-20> korli * r30811 /haiku/vendor/mesa/7.4.2/: tagging Mesa 7.4.2[12:38:14] *** essiene has joined #haiku[13:00:33] <CIA-20> axeld * r30812 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/ (Jamfile chkbfs/):[13:00:33] <CIA-20> * Removed the outdated chkbfs command. The "checkfs" command has replaced[13:00:33] <CIA-20> this one.[13:06:06] <CIA-20> korli * r30813 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/opengl/mesa/ (21 files in 5 dirs): updated mesa to 7.4.2[13:14:34] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:20:04] *** TheNerd_WK is now known as TheNerd[13:36:30] *** MainRo has joined #haiku[13:36:33] *** Love4Asses has joined #haiku[13:36:36] <Love4Asses> hoy[13:43:41] <Ingenu> may I suggest you find a better nickname ?[13:44:44] *** Love4Asses is now known as gr00ber[13:45:18] *** arigayas is now known as arigayas_away[13:45:32] <gr00ber> Ingenu, why?[13:45:41] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[13:46:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:46:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:50:55] *** leszek has joined #haiku[13:51:07] *** leszek has quit IRC[13:52:05] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[13:52:05] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:02:36] <CIA-20> stippi * r30814 /haiku/trunk/src/data/etc/keymaps/Colemak.keymap:[14:02:36] <CIA-20> Patch by Geert Hendrickx: Implemented a Colemak keymap. See <http://colemak.com>[14:02:36] <CIA-20> for more information. Thanks a lot![14:05:53] *** tqh has joined #haiku[14:13:59] *** Barrett666_ has joined #haiku[14:20:50] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[14:28:42] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:32:05] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[14:32:42] *** awpeter has quit IRC[14:32:49] *** VinDuv|away is now known as VinDuv[14:43:38] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[14:45:50] *** surround1r has quit IRC[14:51:39] <CIA-20> korli * r30816 /haiku/vendor/coreutils/7.4/: tagging coreutils-7.4[14:56:42] *** oco has quit IRC[14:57:58] <CIA-20> korli * r30815 /haiku/vendor/coreutils/current/ (812 files in 7 dirs): updating coreutils vendor with version 7.4 (with c99-to-c89.diff patch)[15:02:23] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[15:05:55] *** essiene_ has joined #haiku[15:06:13] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[15:06:27] *** tqh has joined #haiku[15:06:31] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[15:08:00] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[15:09:11] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30817 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Removed unused elf_version_info::hidden field.[15:12:12] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[15:12:45] *** tqh has quit IRC[15:12:50] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[15:15:04] *** tqh has joined #haiku[15:16:44] *** leszek has joined #haiku[15:16:59] *** essiene_ has quit IRC[15:17:31] *** essiene_ has joined #haiku[15:18:14] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:20:38] <leszek> hi[15:20:53] *** essiene has quit IRC[15:21:38] *** essiene_ has quit IRC[15:21:53] *** essiene has joined #haiku[15:26:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:26:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:29:00] *** vbmithr_ has joined #haiku[15:29:07] *** vbmithr_ has quit IRC[15:29:27] *** MrSunshine__ has quit IRC[15:32:21] *** korli has quit IRC[15:42:10] *** xcasexwrka has quit IRC[15:48:40] <Verdant_Machine> ok dumb question about svn. If I have files in my working copy not tracked by svn and I want to purge them how would I do that?[15:49:41] <oxygene> "svn st |grep "^?" |cut -c4-" or so to get the list of files[15:49:52] *** leszek has quit IRC[15:50:10] *** leszek has joined #haiku[15:54:03] <Verdant_Machine> thankyou[15:54:31] *** lorenzo64 has joined #haiku[15:57:19] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[15:57:25] <Verdant_Machine> ah worked perfectly[15:57:43] <Verdant_Machine> not sure why I need verbose though[15:58:26] <Verdant_Machine> nope I didn't nm[16:04:36] *** VinDuv|away has quit IRC[16:05:54] <Verdant_Machine> I am trying to compile on a x86_64 arch[16:05:54] <Verdant_Machine> ./configure --use-32bit --build-cross-tools x86 ../buildtools/ <---- does that make sense or do I have to use gcc4 ???[16:06:28] <Verdant_Machine> x86_64 host I mean[16:07:03] *** VinDuv_ has joined #haiku[16:08:13] <mmadia> Verdant_Machine : http://www.haiku-os.org/node/2518/[16:08:36] <Verdant_Machine> thank you :)[16:08:48] <mmadia> as a disclaimer, that page is a work in progress.[16:09:00] <Verdant_Machine> no problem[16:14:38] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[16:16:08] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[16:16:28] *** VinDuv_ has quit IRC[16:16:56] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:18:41] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[16:24:05] <Verdant_Machine> does jam support parallel build like make ? or am I missing the concept of what jam does.[16:25:49] <mmadia> as in utilizing multiple cores to build faster?[16:26:00] <Verdant_Machine> yup[16:26:10] <Verdant_Machine> ok just like make then[16:26:19] <MindChild> I like -j32767[16:26:29] <Verdant_Machine> might result in compile errors but that seems to be rare[16:26:31] <Verdant_Machine> lol[16:26:34] <Verdant_Machine> more like -j8[16:26:36] <dwarfyperson> except that would melt your computer[16:26:38] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/node/2513[16:26:54] <dwarfyperson> not -j8[16:26:59] <dwarfyperson> although -j8 is a LOT[16:27:04] <MindChild> meh... its not that much[16:27:07] <dwarfyperson> unless you have a seven core computer[16:27:19] <Verdant_Machine> I have 4 cores[16:27:59] *** Geoz has quit IRC[16:28:11] <MindChild> no[16:28:20] <MindChild> honestly, -j8 worked best for me[16:28:28] <MindChild> on a single core[16:28:35] <Verdant_Machine> well the gain is not that much from -j5 but it makes a difference if you got a long compile but only if you have the ram to support it[16:29:18] <MindChild> There is no reason not to take all the gain you can. Especially when it is just a command line flag[16:29:47] <Verdant_Machine> well running out of ram just hammers the poor thing :)[16:29:48] <MindChild> Most of the length comes from disk IO and terminal output[16:29:56] <Verdant_Machine> yup[16:30:29] <Verdant_Machine> even at -j8 my cpu still waits for the HD every now and then[16:33:00] <Verdant_Machine> ...skipped <keymap>Canadian-French for lack of <build>keymap...[16:33:00] <Verdant_Machine> ...skipped 1594 target(s)...[16:33:00] <Verdant_Machine> hmmm I assume that is not normal :)[16:34:13] <Verdant_Machine> oh think I see the problem[16:34:18] <Verdant_Machine> stupid host[16:38:27] <Verdant_Machine> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory <----- bad computer LOL screw this 64bit crap I am building this in a virtual machine[16:38:32] <Verdant_Machine> :)[16:41:25] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[16:41:36] <Anarchos> where is betex.haiku-news.org gone ??[16:42:30] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[16:42:42] *** Geoz has left #haiku[16:43:00] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[16:48:05] <mmadia> haiku-news.org itself is gone.[16:52:49] <Anarchos> mmadia ok[16:53:13] <Anarchos> so there is no contact for betex?[16:53:40] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[16:54:03] <mmadia> possibly mmu_man[16:54:20] <mmadia> he'd be my best guess.[17:01:56] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30818 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):[17:01:56] <CIA-20> Added haiku_version_glue.o "glue code" containing the Haiku/ABI version[17:01:56] <CIA-20> symbols recently introduced. Until init_term_dyn.o is linked into kernel[17:01:56] <CIA-20> add-ons, too, we link with haiku_version_glue.o, so we have those symbols[17:01:56] <CIA-20> in kernel add-ons as well.[17:02:28] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:02:46] *** Barrett666_ has quit IRC[17:03:00] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30819 /haiku/trunk/src/system/glue/haiku_version_glue.c: Should have been part of r30818. 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Murdering performance[17:45:42] <gr00ber> of course[17:45:54] <gr00ber> look at the big fat lock[17:46:20] <Verdant_Machine> afternoon Begasus[17:46:33] <Begasus> hi Verdant_Machine[17:47:11] *** dchis has joined #haiku[17:50:32] <gr00ber> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9337595&st=palm+pre&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218087261903[17:50:38] <gr00ber> bawhwhahwhaha[17:51:11] <CIA-9> mmlr * r30821 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/input/usb_hid/ (9 files):[17:51:11] <CIA-9> * Integrate reports/items some more.[17:51:11] <CIA-9> * Reorganize how items are added to collections.[17:51:11] <CIA-9> * Make collections useful for enumeration through that.[17:51:11] <CIA-9> * Added printing out of collections, reports and report items for easier[17:51:12] <CIA-9> verification of report parsing.[17:53:05] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[17:56:11] *** geist has quit IRC[18:04:15] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[18:07:26] *** vision has joined #haiku[18:07:33] *** vision is now known as _-Caleb-_[18:10:02] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:11:38] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:23:17] <CIA-9> siarzhuk * r301 /haikuports/trunk/app-editors/vim/patches/vim-7.2.patch: - removed some BeOS era workarounds not rewuired by Haiku build.[18:26:55] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[18:27:21] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[18:28:04] *** surrounder has quit IRC[18:28:35] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[18:29:44] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[18:31:11] *** pyCube has quit IRC[18:34:24] *** daste has joined #haiku[18:34:39] *** Advant- has quit IRC[18:37:36] <clay_> whoa[18:37:40] <clay_> i didn't even know about haikuports[18:38:05] <mmadia> greetings clay_ . what about it?[18:38:10] *** Advant- has joined #Haiku[18:38:38] <clay_> so you fetch the ports tree, then beporter is the tool to build whatever is in the ports tree?[18:38:47] <mmadia> ideally yes.[18:38:51] <clay_> awesome[18:38:55] <mmadia> but BePorter needs some serious loving.[18:39:33] <mmadia> there's been some talk about forking BePorter as HaikuPorter and changing it's functionality.[18:39:56] <mmadia> also, not many ports have a .bep file to instruct BePorter[18:40:16] <clay_> whats on the short term list?[18:40:24] <clay_> just getting ports a .bep file?[18:40:54] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[18:41:06] <mmadia> modify HaikuPorter, to remove the automatic patch-file related stuff.[18:41:22] *** Begasus has quit IRC[18:41:28] <mmadia> eg, the user should specificy the patch file, how to apply it,[18:41:37] <mmadia> how to get the source code,[18:42:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:42:27] <mmadia> for example, HaikuPorter doesn't really support source versioning trees -- only tarballs.[18:43:17] <clay_> why wouldn't you want that to be automatic? is there a reason to make the user specify everything?[18:43:37] <mmadia> 1, HaikuPorter and .bep files are more for the developers.[18:43:58] <mmadia> the goal of HaikuPorts is to assist the developers doing the ports and to provide binary packages for the end user to download.[18:44:10] <clay_> ah[18:44:12] <mmadia> eg, we don't expect the user to build everythnig from source.[18:44:19] <clay_> so its not meant in the end to have the user building apps[18:44:33] <clay_> like portage/freebsd ports[18:44:34] <mmadia> but with many things involing Haiku and other FOSS systems, things are a work inprogress :)[18:44:57] <mmadia> from what i've been told yes, though i don't have 1st hand experience with those systems.[18:45:06] <clay_> is there talk about some sort of a package management for users?[18:46:09] <mmadia> by pkg management to mean something like aptget, pkg_add or an agreed-upon method for developers to create their distribution packages?[18:46:15] <clay_> yeah[18:46:21] <mmadia> which one? :)[18:46:29] <clay_> something like apt[18:46:35] <clay_> well[18:47:01] <clay_> yeah, apt.. because pkg_add you don't really need since you can install stuff normally[18:47:44] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:47:45] <mmadia> there might be another 3rd party site... blue technoids maybe? but right now it seems to be vaporware.[18:48:45] <clay_> anything besides going to a site like bebits?[18:48:55] <mmadia> http://www.bluetechnoids.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bpkg_spec[18:49:01] <mmadia> currently, no.[18:50:19] <mmadia> http://www.bluetechnoids.org/wiki/doku.php?do=index[18:50:24] <clay_> yeah, thats more of what i was thinking of[18:51:24] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[18:51:25] *** aljen has joined #haiku[18:51:38] <aljen> hey[18:52:32] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:53:34] *** korli has joined #haiku[18:53:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[18:55:48] <clay_> mmadia: has haikuporter already been forked?[18:56:07] <mmadia> i started an initial fork, which removed support for R5, Bone, and Zeta.[18:56:31] <clay_> is it up on the wiki somewhere?[18:56:52] <mmadia> information about it or the sources?[18:56:57] <clay_> both[18:57:23] <mmadia> there's some older (and possibly incorrect) information about BePorter...[18:57:40] <mmadia> source : http://ports.haiku-files.org/browser/beporter/trunk[18:57:55] <clay_> yeah, i'm on there[18:58:16] <mmadia> it's only 20KB and fairly easy to understand.[18:58:31] <clay_> but if you've already started haikuporter, i'd be interested in looking at that since I don't really care about R5/Bone/Zeta either[18:58:41] <mmadia> *nods*[18:58:50] <mmadia> they're in the same folder.[18:59:20] *** thotypous has quit IRC[18:59:22] <mmadia> lemme try and find the email thread...[19:01:55] <mmadia> here's the main archive : http://lists.ports.haiku-files.org/pipermail/haikuports-devs-ports.haiku-files.org/[19:01:57] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[19:02:03] <mmadia> http://lists.ports.haiku-files.org/pipermail/haikuports-devs-ports.haiku-files.org/2009-April/000387.html[19:02:09] <mmadia> http://lists.ports.haiku-files.org/pipermail/haikuports-devs-ports.haiku-files.org/2009-May/000469.html[19:02:15] <mmadia> those are the two more relevant threads.[19:02:16] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:02:48] <clay_> thanks[19:02:48] *** gr99ber has joined #haiku[19:04:09] *** Advant has joined #Haiku[19:13:05] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[19:14:09] *** Advant- has quit IRC[19:18:37] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:19:30] *** gr99ber is now known as gr00ber[19:23:37] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:23:47] *** daste has quit IRC[19:24:28] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[19:26:10] *** paul0 has quit IRC[19:26:23] *** urnenfeld has left #haiku[19:26:52] *** MrSunshine_ has quit IRC[19:30:02] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[19:31:55] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[19:39:22] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[19:43:26] *** geist_ is now known as geist[19:46:28] <pyCube> mm.. fig newton[19:48:03] <gordonjcp> Verdant_Machine: I don't have an smp machine[19:48:26] <geist> that's pretty delayed[19:51:53] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv|away[19:59:36] <Verdant_Machine> gordonjcp: np gordonjcp, I figured it out. Thanks anyway[20:00:23] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[20:00:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[20:00:43] *** VinDuv|away is now known as VinDuv[20:00:47] *** Svarthandske has joined #haiku[20:01:22] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[20:09:16] *** Vampyre has quit IRC[20:10:13] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[20:10:29] *** Vampyre has joined #haiku[20:13:20] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[20:17:45] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[20:20:52] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[20:22:14] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[20:26:21] *** Mixer has quit IRC[20:33:15] *** Barrett666_ has joined #haiku[20:39:07] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[20:40:38] *** Begasus has quit IRC[20:46:15] *** Barrett666_ is now known as ^Barrett^[20:46:17] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:46:33] *** ^Barrett^ is now known as Barrett^[20:47:14] *** Barrett^ is now known as Barrett`[20:48:06] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[20:55:11] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[20:59:34] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[21:06:52] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:10:45] *** lorenzo64 has joined #haiku[21:23:38] *** MainRo has quit IRC[21:23:48] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[21:29:55] *** rennj has quit IRC[21:32:48] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[21:34:09] <CIA-9> korli * r30822 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/Jamfile: TARGET_STATIC_LIBSUPC++ needs strcat on gcc4, get it before libruntime_loader.a[21:38:13] *** markos_ has quit IRC[21:39:11] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[21:47:08] <CIA-9> korli * r30823 /haiku/trunk/ (817 files in 10 dirs): merging coreutils-7.4 into trunk[21:50:05] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[21:51:56] *** rennj has joined #haiku[21:57:40] *** redblue has joined #haiku[21:58:08] *** mmu_laptop has quit IRC[22:01:06] *** redblue is now known as redb1ue[22:06:12] *** Barrett`_ has joined #haiku[22:07:16] *** Advant- has joined #Haiku[22:15:39] *** Advant has quit IRC[22:16:27] <Verdant_Machine> Can Haiku read any other file systems besides BeOS?[22:16:46] <HeTo> yes[22:16:50] <HeTo> FAT32 at least[22:17:00] <MrSunshine> reiserfs[22:17:06] <MrSunshine> iso9660[22:17:06] <Verdant_Machine> ah good[22:17:10] <MrSunshine> etc etc[22:17:25] <Verdant_Machine> how about good old ext2?[22:19:11] *** redb1ue has quit IRC[22:19:30] *** atomozero has quit IRC[22:19:38] *** atomozero_ has joined #haiku[22:20:49] *** Barrett` has quit IRC[22:21:27] <luroh> ext2-3 works too, not sure about ext4[22:22:06] <Verdant_Machine> ok that is all I need[22:26:47] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[22:26:47] *** surround1r has quit IRC[22:26:52] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[22:30:59] *** lorenzo64 has quit IRC[22:34:08] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[22:35:46] <Verdant_Machine> gah feel like a idiot.[22:35:46] <Verdant_Machine> mkfs -t ext2 /dev/disk/ata/0/slave/raw src_data[22:35:46] <Verdant_Machine> mkfs: Parameters validation failed. Check what you wrote[22:36:38] <Verdant_Machine> Not sure how partitions work in BeOS[22:38:56] <VinDuv> Verdant_Machine: mkfs is for creating new filesystems, and I don't think ext2 is supported...[22:39:08] <VinDuv> Verdant_Machine: You probably want "mount" ;)[22:39:47] <Verdant_Machine> no it mounted fine, I just wanted to know how to create ext2 from Haiku[22:40:21] <Verdant_Machine> but I can just wait until linux fully supports BeOS so it is no real problem[22:41:21] <CIA-9> bonefish * r30824 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/Jamfile: Reverted r30822, fixing the build.[22:41:59] *** ThomasShirley has joined #haiku[22:46:16] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[22:46:48] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[22:47:03] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[22:49:24] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[22:52:29] *** luroh has quit IRC[22:59:33] <kirilla> I'm seeing some weird stuff in Haiku r30806.[22:59:38] <kirilla> Doing "ls -R /dev/disk | more"[23:00:31] <kirilla> If the output fits in the height of the Terminal, it vanishes instantly, just flickering by once, and then the screen is equal to before issuing the command, plus the prompt one line down[23:01:37] <kirilla> if the output does not fit on screen, you get regular output from "more" (paged output), but when you reach the end, its all gone and you're back at the prompt with no trace of the output of the command you just ran[23:01:55] <kirilla> maybe that's some kind of feature[23:02:55] <HeTo> kirilla: less on most Linux distros does pretty much what you said, except when you reach the end, they still need the explicit q to exit[23:03:05] <HeTo> don't know what it does if you call it as more[23:03:44] <kirilla> HeTo: It's common that the output is cleaned up?[23:04:10] <kirilla> ah, I see[23:04:26] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:04:27] <kirilla> yeah, less works differently from more in Ubuntu[23:05:29] *** Darknessss has quit IRC[23:06:23] *** Svarthandske has quit IRC[23:06:50] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:19:23] <kirilla> Another issue I'm having is with a USB stick. Haiku fails to mount it properly, instead creating a symlink from /Haiku1 -> /boot/system/preferences/Media[23:19:27] <kirilla> How weird is that.'[23:27:41] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[23:40:33] *** kirilla has quit IRC[23:46:10] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[23:46:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[23:48:48] <expensivelesbian> kirilla how's your MIPS port going?[23:49:27] <mmadia> you gotta speak louder than that, he already logged out ;)[23:49:37] <expensivelesbian> heh[23:49:39] <expensivelesbian> dang![23:50:34] * JonathanThompson sends expensivelesbian on an austerity program and reduces him down to being merely a reasonably-pricedlesbian[23:50:38] *** korli has quit IRC[23:50:51] <expensivelesbian> well, x86, MIPS, ARM, M68k, PowerPC[23:51:00] <expensivelesbian> not bad, should they all come to fruition[23:51:22] <expensivelesbian> someone asked me about the name[23:51:37] <expensivelesbian> this time around, I said, "cos I ain't cheap, and I don't suck"[23:51:40] <gordonjcp> http://cobolscript.googlepages.com/cobolscript[23:51:43] <expensivelesbian> they weren't impressed[23:51:59] <gordonjcp> I... ye ghods[23:52:11] <gordonjcp> expensivelesbian: I just assumed you were an expensive lesbian[23:52:14] <gordonjcp> <shrug>[23:52:14] <expensivelesbian> that's not actually the origin of the name, I was probably just tired[23:52:16] <gordonjcp> takes all sorts[23:52:58] <andguent> expensivelesbian: in one of the channels i regularly lurk sometimes someone comes along with the name "shemale_magic"...now beat that![23:53:17] <expensivelesbian> gordonjcp well, JonathanThompson isn't actually "Jonathan Thompson", she's actually a lesbian. Not too cheap either[23:53:19] * JonathanThompson resorts to re-sorting the sorts of sorts that the sorts of sorts we sort out here would sort as a last resort as we last re-sort them[23:53:23] <expensivelesbian> odd how these things work out[23:53:45] <expensivelesbian> shemale_magic I like that[23:53:48] * JonathanThompson was unaware that he was a lesbian, or even female ;)[23:53:54] <expensivelesbian> it rolls off the tongue[23:54:06] <gordonjcp> does it?[23:54:08] <JonathanThompson> (Or other than male, period)[23:54:10] <gordonjcp> well, uh, you're the expert...[23:54:26] <expensivelesbian> I was thinking phonetically[23:54:32] <JonathanThompson> gordonjcp: just grease the tongue enough, it'll roll off with little tongue-resistance :D[23:54:45] <expensivelesbian> yeah, you could probably make an opera around it. It has lots of nice vowel sounds[23:54:46] <gordonjcp> one of my best friends from when I was just a tiny tiny geeklet is a lesbian[23:55:02] <gordonjcp> nice having a female friend that my gf isn't jealous of (much)[23:55:04] * JonathanThompson shrugs[23:55:09] <expensivelesbian> move to London, there's loads of them[23:56:10] <expensivelesbian> anyway, this is all quite offtopic[23:56:20] <gordonjcp> she has a small farm, and I was helping her with some stuff a while back[23:56:24] <expensivelesbian> unless there's a plan for a lesbian locale?[23:56:37] <gordonjcp> we were fuelling up a tractor, and she dropped the filler and got covered in it[23:56:54] <expensivelesbian> hang on, is this all some extended metaphor?[23:57:04] <gordonjcp> and I, bigmouth strikes again, I just had to say, "Well damn me, I've heard of diesel dykes before, but that..."[23:57:06] <expensivelesbian> "dropped the filler"[23:57:18] <expensivelesbian> heh[23:57:27] *** awpeter has quit IRC[23:57:31] <gordonjcp> got away with it, mostly because I'm 8" taller and thus have longer legs[23:57:37] <gordonjcp> so I'm quicker in the first 100 yards or so[23:57:41] *** aljen has quit IRC[23:57:57] <JonathanThompson> Quick off the Mark, but a Sally, perhaps a bit slower? :D