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[00:04:44] <pyCube> hmm.. wtf does 'assertAlmostEqual' and 'assertNotAlmostEqual' mean (its a unittest method)
[00:04:47] <pyCube> heheh
[00:05:01] <pyCube> i am sure they make sense somehow, but it sounds funny
[00:05:57] <JonathanThompson> Delta Airlines, where the only thing constant is change!
[00:08:12] <oco> pyCube : maybe to compare floating point values
[00:08:41] <CIA-20> oruizdorantes * r30767 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/h2/h2generic/ (h2generic.c h2generic.h h2transactions.c h2upper.c): Style cleanup(or not making it worse), fix some statistics(Monni)
[00:18:15] <pyCube> oco, seems so.. "Fail if the two objects are unequal as determined by their
[00:18:15] <pyCube> difference rounded to the given number of decimal places
[00:18:15] <pyCube> (default 7) and comparing to zero."
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[00:30:52] <stpere> meh.. maybe if you want people to join teamhaiku, you should like.. display the join this team link somewhere? :)
[00:32:13] <stpere> for seti@home I mean
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[00:33:41] <satellitehelf> wasting resources with seti ;P
[00:33:49] <stpere> well ok
[00:33:51] <satellitehelf> start a folding@home team
[00:33:54] <stpere> then delete the team..
[00:34:03] <stpere> :)
[00:34:32] <stpere> I just find it silly to have that team, with no way to join
[00:34:47] <stpere> is that an invite only team?
[00:35:06] <stpere> ok, I liost enough time on this :)
[00:38:38] <stpere> I should start a distributed project with this goal : compute how to effeciently save energy
[00:38:46] <stpere> the conclusion will be "stop this project"
[00:39:25] <pyCube> heh.. compute how many penguins/polar bears are dying as a ersult of said distributed computing project
[00:42:04] <oco> pyCube : some are usefull like the new HCMD project
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[01:49:21] <BePhantom_> crap :P
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[01:52:44] <stpere> oh noes :P
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[01:54:18] <Haiku_> re crap
[01:54:26] * Haiku_ is bephantom
[01:54:38] <Haiku_> cant make xchat open my channel list
[01:55:09] <Haiku_> i tried #haiku, #haiku-es and i just join haiku
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[01:55:37] <BePhantom_> does anyone here use xchat?
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[01:56:50] <Haiku_> yesss i did it
[01:57:10] <Haiku_> i had to add them without spaces, for instance #haiku,#haiku-es
[01:57:22] <Haiku_> will login with my nickname now :)
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[01:59:00] <BePhantom> test
[01:59:07] <BePhantom> ok :)
[02:00:12] <JonathanThompson> FAIL!
[02:02:40] <BePhantom> JonathanThompson, could you write my nickname?
[02:03:42] <BePhantom> or anyone
[02:03:56] <mmadia> my nickname
[02:04:07] <mmadia> how's that BePhantom ?
[02:04:11] <BePhantom> :P
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[02:04:18] <BePhantom> thanks matt, it works :)
[02:06:33] <gordonjcp> evening
[02:06:45] <gordonjcp> BePhantom: hello
[02:06:55] <gordonjcp> BePhantom: have enough people highlighted your nick yet>
[02:07:28] <stpere> BePhantom: of it course it does
[02:07:48] <BePhantom> haha ok, enough :D my sound alert is driving me crazy
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[02:08:00] <stpere> in 2009, you would expect every IRC client to support nick highlighting?
[02:08:12] <mmadia> BePhantom have you ever tried InfoPopper
[02:08:16] <stpere> BePhantom: then turn it off :P
[02:08:22] <BePhantom> shit lol
[02:08:31] <BePhantom> infopopper what's that?
[02:08:39] <stpere> BePhantom: it's..
[02:08:43] <stpere> ok, I stop :)
[02:08:49] <BePhantom> infopooper? :P
[02:09:24] <BePhantom> but im in beos/haiku now
[02:09:34] <mmadia> it *is* for haiku.
[02:09:38] <BePhantom> sorry, i meant im *not*
[02:10:17] <BePhantom> does it work in xchat?
[02:10:36] <mmadia> no, Vision supports it.
[02:10:55] <mmadia> hopefully tomorrow i'll get around to finishing the optionalpackage for it.
[02:12:27] <BePhantom> what does it do?
[02:12:50] <mmadia> it pops up a small dialog with ..... information
[02:14:00] <BePhantom> like jaunty notification box?
[02:16:20] <BePhantom> yes, like notification box, that's pretty sweet matt
[02:16:34] <mmadia> there's plugins for IMKit, mail_daemon, and SoundPlay too
[02:17:19] <BePhantom> awesome, that's what i was going to say, if it could be used as email alert
[02:19:19] <BePhantom> it's really awesome, thanks for this app mmadia
[02:19:41] <mmadia> thank slaad, plfiorini and others.. they maintain it :)
[02:20:55] <BePhantom> is it included in haiku image?
[02:21:21] <mmadia> nope.
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[03:12:01] <Disreali_> evening
[03:15:03] <mmadia> howdy
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[03:27:10] <Disreali_> mmadia, does the beunited cvs still work?
[03:27:36] <mmadia> no idea actually. all i know is that haiku-inc picked up the domain a while back.
[03:28:20] <Disreali_> hmm
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[03:28:40] <Disreali_> I was hoping to get the source for dockbert
[03:28:58] <Disreali_> will check beshare
[03:29:53] <Disreali_> bummer
[03:37:29] <Disreali_> mmadia, you still here?
[03:37:42] <mmadia> yup.
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[03:38:54] <umccullough_w> i thought someone mirrored the entire beunited CVS at some point before it died
[03:38:59] <Disreali_> I started looking at the mozilla code and was wondering if it might be a god idea to register a 'Bezilla' source repo online.
[03:39:30] <Disreali_> It would allow us to use some sort of source controll
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[03:40:18] <Disreali_> umccullough_w, thanks
[03:40:27] <mmadia> there isn't much i'm doing with the source these days.
[03:40:53] <umccullough_w> yeah, not sure there's a huge future for firefox on haiku at this point :(
[03:41:34] <umccullough_w> it seems mozilla is pretty much in love with the big-three platforms these days
[03:41:37] <AlienSoldier> i absolutely hate firefox, only use it because it render "internet" well for me
[03:41:37] <mmadia> iirc, aldeck and jprostko were considering working on it a little bit.
[03:42:05] <umccullough_w> on windows, i use chrome these days
[03:42:33] <mmadia> on windows, i use blinds and screens. it really helps to keep windows bug free :P
[03:42:49] <AlienSoldier> at least, when i did read chrome "comic" it feeled logic, the way firefox run is borked
[03:42:55] <AlienSoldier> *felt
[03:43:16] <umccullough_w> chrome is blazingly fast
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[03:49:10] <Disreali_> has anyone seen Tracker crash when moving files via right-click 'moveto'?
[03:49:41] <Disreali_> trying to decypher trac tickets
[03:51:35] <umccullough_w> heading home, ttyl
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[03:58:56] <BePhantom> brb
[03:59:00] <BePhantom> like if anyone cares :P
[03:59:08] <Disreali_> bye
[03:59:17] <BePhantom> i'm rebooting
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[03:59:35] <Disreali_> grr! why is dev.haiku so borked
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[04:02:01] <Disreali_> wb BePhantom
[04:02:13] <mmadia> what's wrong with it?
[04:02:21] <BePhantom> Disreali, thanks :)
[04:02:34] <mmadia> hi my nickname!
[04:02:56] <BePhantom> hi mr madia :)
[04:03:12] <Disreali_> mmadia, besides being very slow, I keep getting proxy erros when searching for bug tickets
[04:04:42] <BePhantom> ill reboot again :D
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[04:10:09] <Disreali_> BePhantom, how did you get xchat to beep when your nick is typed? I have not figured that out yet.
[04:10:51] <BePhantom> in preferences
[04:11:05] <BePhantom> then "alerts"
[04:11:56] <BePhantom> make sure "Make a beep sound on" is selected under "Highlighted message"
[04:12:54] <Disreali_> oh... you put your own nick in the field ot the bottom?
[04:13:10] <BePhantom> no
[04:13:15] <BePhantom> there's no need
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[04:13:44] <BePhantom> after you selected make a beep sound on, under highlighted message go to Sound
[04:13:57] <Disreali> ok
[04:14:02] <BePhantom> in Event select Beep
[04:14:15] <BePhantom> then browse for a wav sound
[04:14:27] <BePhantom> you can find some in /usr/share/sounds/
[04:15:04] <Disreali> cool. thanks
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[04:15:21] <BePhantom> does it work?
[04:15:25] <BePhantom> Disreali
[04:17:04] <Disreali> sorry, i was afk
[04:17:24] <Disreali_> dirreali
[04:17:31] <Disreali_> disreali
[04:17:50] <Disreali_> \o/
[04:17:51] <BePhantom> Disreali_
[04:18:12] <BePhantom> does it?
[04:18:28] <Disreali_> cool, now I just need sounds on my haiku partition
[04:18:37] <Disreali_> yes, thqanks
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[04:18:58] <BePhantom> cool :) I also made it beep everytime i get a private message
[04:19:12] <Disreali_> cool
[04:19:23] <Disreali_> i have to be off.
[04:19:28] <Disreali_> thanks again
[04:19:31] <Disreali_> bye
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[04:19:38] <BePhantom> no problem :)
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[08:29:25] <Zenja> Morning/Afternoon/Evening
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[08:50:45] <Begasus> moin
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[09:50:01] <gordonjcp> morning
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[11:34:30] <Tekn0Mac> morning all
[11:35:09] <Tekn0Mac> anyone know how to start sshd on haiku? (says sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path)
[11:35:49] <Rakhun> /usr/sbin/sshd (I guess not that's the correct path though, "which ssh" should tell you)
[11:35:56] <Tekn0Mac> never mind found it
[11:36:03] <Tekn0Mac> ah yes
[11:36:07] <Tekn0Mac> thanks :)
[11:36:25] <Tekn0Mac> hmm i don't suppose I can do _anything_ with a BeIDE .proj file from Haiku
[11:36:35] <Tekn0Mac> from=inside
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[11:53:40] <Tekn0Mac> is the haiku makefile engine same as the usual makefile? i.e. BeOS generic makefile?
[11:53:50] <Tekn0Mac> can i use this
[11:53:52] <Tekn0Mac> as the base ?
[11:54:06] <Tekn0Mac> i'm going to try compile Beezer on Haiku.. so converting BeIDE projects to makefiles
[11:54:13] <PulkoMandy> yes it is, but we tend to use jamfiles instead on haiku
[11:54:16] <Tekn0Mac> or rather manually reconstructing the entire makefile tree
[11:54:19] <PulkoMandy> and there is a jamfile engine too :)
[11:54:31] <Tekn0Mac> okay so jamfiles are recommended?
[11:54:36] <Tekn0Mac> hm
[11:54:52] <Tekn0Mac> i'd like to keep it both beos and haiku compatible, (using #ifdef HAIKU in the code where necessary)
[11:54:58] <Tekn0Mac> so not sure if jamfile would be good
[11:55:51] <Tekn0Mac> maybe i'll start with makefiles, once i open source beezer, people can probably contribute jamfiles if it gets to that point
[11:56:25] <PulkoMandy> well, i don't think jam is installed under beos so yes in this case makefiles is fine
[11:57:32] <Tekn0Mac> okay so i need a makefile template to copy into my haiku vm
[11:57:37] <Tekn0Mac> hmm, any _official_ one for Haiku?
[12:02:30] <Tekn0Mac> okay using the generic beos makefile,
[12:05:27] <PulkoMandy> i'm not sure, i think someone rewrote the makefile engine for haiku
[12:08:53] <Tekn0Mac> yes but did the basic syntax change? don't think so.
[12:09:01] <VinDuv> The "BeOS Generic Makefile" works fine here with the Haiku makefile-engine
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[12:24:57] <Tekn0Mac> VinDuv thanks :)
[12:25:03] <Tekn0Mac> hmm Haiku has no "file" command
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[12:27:13] <Tekn0Mac> i get a "cc1plus: obsolete option -I use -iquote instead" ... seems makefile engine is using -I to pass include directories...
[12:27:19] <Tekn0Mac> (warning)
[12:27:53] <Rakhun> it's the makefile that does that, not make, make only follows instructions
[12:28:46] <Tekn0Mac> yes right
[12:29:41] <Tekn0Mac> but makefile engine passes LOCAL_INCLUDE_PATHS with a "-I" which is now deprecated i suppose
[12:29:57] <Tekn0Mac> it compiles & links file, just want to get rid of all warnings
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[12:32:44] <VinDuv> Tekn0Mac: Are you using gcc4 ? I don't have this warning with gcc2...
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[12:35:25] <Tekn0Mac> VinDuv hmm let me check
[12:35:28] <Tekn0Mac> DaaT !!
[12:35:46] <Tekn0Mac> VinDuv yes 4.3.3
[12:35:49] <Tekn0Mac> VinDuv it's the default
[12:35:57] <Tekn0Mac> with the haiku vmdk i downloaded (14 may)
[12:36:12] <DaaT> Tekn0Mac! :)
[12:36:18] <DaaT> how are you doing?
[12:36:22] <Tekn0Mac> :) go0d
[12:36:35] <Tekn0Mac> trying to compile beezer on haiku, just for fun :P
[12:37:44] <DaaT> beezer... that name rings a bell...
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[12:45:05] <DaaT> hey plfiorini
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[12:57:22] <leszek> hi
[12:57:34] <DaaT> hi
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[13:04:22] <Tekn0Mac> hmm
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[13:06:39] <szczur> hi
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[13:26:47] <CIA-20> stippi * r30768 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/ (13 files in 2 dirs):
[13:26:47] <CIA-20> * I didn't like so much how the "Remove and Move into Trash" feature was
[13:26:47] <CIA-20> implemented. It didn't reuse existing code and didn't integrate well. No
[13:26:47] <CIA-20> Undo/Redo except via Tracker, but not in the Playlist... some bugs as well
[13:26:47] <CIA-20> (Remove had same shortcut as Randomize, Didn't maintain current playback item
[13:26:47] <CIA-20> if last entry was removed)
[13:26:52] <CIA-20> * I need to reenable the main window short cut though. This is only temporary.
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[13:44:56] <Hugen> hi all
[13:47:30] <szczur> hi HeTo
[13:47:41] <szczur> damned tab completion
[13:47:44] <szczur> hi Hugen
[13:48:11] <Hugen> hi szczur
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[16:04:38] <pfoetchen> Service Kit is cool ;)
[16:04:51] * pfoetchen loves Last.fm ;)
[16:04:52] <mmadia> :)
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[16:33:00] <Hugen> re
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[16:37:12] * tqh cheers mmadia
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[16:58:40] <Barrett666> the haiku's network stack was ported from freebsd or not?
[16:58:58] <noisetonepause> not the latest one, i don't think
[16:59:06] <noisetonepause> there's a freebsd compatibility layer for drivers, though
[16:59:18] <tqh> exactly
[16:59:19] <noisetonepause> so drivers can be ported from freebsd with relative ease.
[16:59:34] <vjacob> why is the network stack being ported from freebsd instead of netbsd or linux, is the features/code from freebsd advantageous ?
[16:59:46] <tqh> it's not ported
[17:00:12] <Barrett666> good
[17:00:24] <Barrett666> ziomatto, giusto
[17:00:26] <Barrett666> per rispondere
[17:00:29] <Barrett666> ops
[17:00:33] <Barrett666> i'm sorry
[17:00:37] <tqh> it's a bit more object oriented than other platforms afaik
[17:00:54] <vjacob> hmm
[17:01:04] <noisetonepause> isn't the freebsd networking stack designated as the IETF reference implementation for IPv6, though?
[17:01:07] <noisetonepause> (because it's so good)
[17:01:33] <tqh> dunno, but wouldn't surprise me.
[17:02:29] <noisetonepause> sadly, free is a bit behind on drivers compared to net/open afaik
[17:02:33] <ziomatto> a newbie question. was the network stack written from scratch or taken from bone or other operating systems ?
[17:02:43] <noisetonepause> from scratch.
[17:03:00] <noisetonepause> at least once
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[18:20:37] <CIA-20> bga * r30769 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp: - Set the CD:do_lookup attribute correctly.
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[19:41:40] <AlienSoldier> wolfram alpha is not bad (if a bit empty as a database)
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[20:11:48] * pfoetchen just started his Indigo 2 ;)
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[20:41:04] <stpere> afternoon all
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[20:55:36] <mmu_man> WTF is makeinfo in debian 5.0 ??
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[21:11:44] <PulkoMandy> mmu_man, looking at the manpages it's the "compiler" that makes .info files from texinfo source
[21:11:47] <PulkoMandy> i don't use it :)
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[21:13:25] <mmu_man> h it's in texinfo
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[21:13:49] <mmu_man> PulkoMandy I was asking where it was :p
[21:14:04] <PulkoMandy> "WTF" is not really clear :)
[21:14:17] <SirShane> Hi guys, does anyone know if anyone has done any work to port the Haiku kernel to user-space?
[21:14:49] <mmu_man> not really, ppl asked but I don't see any use
[21:15:16] <SirShane> hehe, it's not about how useful it is, man. It's about how cool it is. ;)
[21:16:06] <SirShane> But really I was considering the possibility of porting Haiku to something like LLVM.
[21:17:11] <SirShane> By looking briefly at the kernel source, I got the impression it might be possible... Something similar was done for Linux.
[21:17:23] <SirShane> And if someone could port Linux to LLVM, I'm sure Haiku could be as well. :P
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[21:43:50] <mmu_man> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory
[21:43:52] <mmu_man> !?
[21:45:01] <mmu_man> hmm
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[21:58:19] <CIA-20> axeld * r30770 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/legacy_drivers.cpp: * Applied a patch by Rene that fixes bug #3856.
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[21:59:34] <gl00bel> BOO!
[21:59:59] <geist> <sigh>
[22:00:07] <gl00bel> hey, dude, you're here too, aye?
[22:00:09] <geist> are you only going to be happy when i completely leave freenode?
[22:00:11] <gl00bel> oh well
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[22:00:27] <geist> that's the troll that i was talking about. completely destroyed #osdev
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[22:07:22] <CIA-20> axeld * r30771 /haiku/trunk/data/develop/ (makefile makefile-engine):
[22:07:22] <CIA-20> * Applied patch by Siarzhuk Zharski that adds support for .rdef files to the
[22:07:22] <CIA-20> makefile-engine. Thanks!
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[22:07:39] <gl00bel> it's not destroy
[22:07:43] <gl00bel> you left - channel lives on
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[22:08:32] <geist> he loves reading logs too
[22:08:42] <geist> please dont bring your shit here, be satisfied you won
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[22:13:16] <gl00bel> i'll think about it
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[22:15:23] <expensivelesbian> #osdev, yikes, that must be a brainbox convention
[22:15:34] <gordonjcp> heh
[22:15:38] <expensivelesbian> well, a jar full of smart cookies I guess
[22:16:14] <expensivelesbian> no disrespect to #haiku ... (think I got away with that)
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[22:28:32] <vyr> anybody uses
[22:29:30] <vyr> Anybody uses Webdav protocol in Haiku community?, is it missed/would it be appreciated to have some? or already exists?
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[22:46:32] <gordonjcp> vyr: probably not a bad idea
[22:47:59] <vyr> I just know GMX( 1GB free:P ) and something from apple using that,
[22:48:25] <vyr> hmm at least not many people here using that
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[22:56:13] <adamk> Anyone else getting "...failed Archive generated/objects/haiku/x86/release/kits/interface/libcolumnlistview.a ..." when trying to build Haiku recently?
[22:56:28] <adamk> gcc 2.95, buiding on Haiku
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[23:00:19] <mmadia> i'll update and build now, adamk.
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[23:06:46] <leszek> hi
[23:06:54] <CIA-20> axeld * r30772 /haiku/trunk/src/ (bin/desklink/VolumeControl.cpp kits/interface/View.cpp):
[23:06:54] <CIA-20> * The Be API requires that options and mask is 0 to remove a mask using
[23:06:54] <CIA-20> BView::SetEventMask(). This fixes bug #3928.
[23:06:54] <CIA-20> * And while the app_server handled that correctly, BView actually did not, and
[23:06:54] <CIA-20> stored the wrong value.
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[23:25:33] <CIA-20> axeld * r30773 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/vfs.cpp:
[23:25:33] <CIA-20> * The covered vnode release was never put when it already was a mount point
[23:25:33] <CIA-20> during fs_mount(). This fixes bug #3934.
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[23:38:52] <CIA-20> bga * r30774 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/disk_device_manager/KDiskDeviceManager.cpp:
[23:38:52] <CIA-20> inserted media. This fixes ticket #3921.
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[23:42:01] <umccullough> adamk, mine built this morning just fine
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[23:42:17] <umccullough> adamk, probably you need to run svn stat to make sure you have no local changes
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[23:42:34] <umccullough> and then rm generated/objects/haiku/x86/release/kits/interface/* just to be sure
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[23:57:56] <adamk> svn stat shows nothing... I'll remove those files, but shouldn't 'jam -qa' do something similar?