May 13, 2009 
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May 13, 2009 [00:00:50] *** Hugen has quit IRC[00:03:08] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[00:03:15] <gordonjcp> \m//[00:09:57] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[00:11:25] *** cps1966 has joined #haiku[00:15:34] <gordonjcp> well now[00:15:44] <gordonjcp> it seems I've got Django running on Haiku[00:19:23] <aurynn> sweet.[00:20:08] *** Gaap has quit IRC[00:20:33] <gordonjcp> aurynn: now a tabbed editor and Haiku can be my main laptop OS[00:21:11] <aurynn> gordonjcp, once something of the quality of TextMate gets to Haiku, it'll be an awesome netbook OS.[00:21:14] <aurynn> (and wifi, natch)[00:21:17] <gordonjcp> yeah[00:21:24] <gordonjcp> I didn't like textmate much, tbh[00:21:31] <markos_> wow, the new gcc4 images feel so much faster[00:21:35] <aurynn> I can't live without it[00:21:50] <gordonjcp> aurynn: possibly because I never really got used to OSX[00:22:00] <gordonjcp> it doesn't have plugins :-/[00:22:09] <gordonjcp> or, maybe it does, but mine don't work in it[00:22:50] <gordonjcp> FF3 and firebug would be pretty handy[00:23:07] <gordonjcp> I could live without HTML hacking and just concentrate on backend code though[00:24:05] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[00:25:15] <gordonjcp> just as a test, someone please try - http://pdp11.kicks-ass.net:8000[00:25:45] <HeTo> not found[00:25:53] <gordonjcp> cool[00:25:57] <gordonjcp> try /admin[00:26:07] <gordonjcp> (there aren't any views defined)[00:26:12] <gordonjcp> yup, you got admin[00:26:29] <gordonjcp> asdf and asdf, if you want to log in[00:27:14] <gordonjcp> it's a "scrap" install so feel free[00:27:15] *** yoritomo has quit IRC[00:28:44] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:31:42] *** Bumphead has quit IRC[00:40:42] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[00:40:49] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[00:42:41] *** Gaap has quit IRC[00:45:17] <CIA-20> bga * r30732 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp:[00:45:17] <CIA-20> "Audio CD" or CD Text obtained one.[00:45:32] <aljen> hey[00:45:33] *** yoritomo has joined #haiku[00:47:10] <BePhantom> hola aljen[00:47:30] <aljen> hey BePhantom :)[00:48:06] <BePhantom> hi, how's things in poland?[00:48:08] <BePhantom> :)[00:48:46] <CIA-20> dlmcpaul * r30733 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/media/MediaRoster.cpp: sigh[00:48:48] <aljen> good, i just came back from beer hehe :)[00:48:52] <aljen> raining :)[00:49:07] <aljen> and you ? :P[00:49:20] <HeTo> sigh?[00:49:24] <BePhantom> awesome hehe, which type of beer?[00:49:44] <aljen> lech :D[00:49:50] <aljen> best beer on the world :)[00:49:57] <BePhantom> im doing good, it's very cloudy here and will probably rain too :)[00:50:32] <BePhantom> do polish drink beer? i thought the national drink was vodka :P[00:50:36] <aljen> :)[00:50:55] <aljen> hehe vodka too, but i prefer beer, i hate vodka :)[00:51:24] <BePhantom> me too ;)[00:52:09] <BePhantom> i cant buy lech here :P i'll ask my grandfather to bring me a bottle in one of his trips to poland :D[00:53:02] <aljen> hehe, trust me, lech premium, 0.5l, green bottle, best beer you'll ever drink :D[00:53:16] <aljen> or grolsh and heineken, that same taste :)[00:53:37] <BePhantom> he has family in poland, he is argentinian but his mother is polish and his father WW2 british bomber pilot[00:54:01] <aljen> nice, where they live in poland ? :)[00:54:02] <sugar3> Lech... indeed:)[00:54:09] <BePhantom> i like heineken :)[00:54:21] <aljen> then you'll like lech too[00:54:31] <aljen> for me, all green botled beers are great :)[00:54:34] <sugar3> It's true[00:54:36] <mmu_laptop> indeed, our ministry of culture *did* tamper with wikipedia:[00:54:37] <mmu_laptop> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/143.126.11.222[00:54:42] <mmu_laptop> Name: proxy-valois.culture.fr[00:54:42] <mmu_laptop> Address: 143.126.11.222[00:54:48] <aljen> hey mmu_laptop :)[00:55:36] <CIA-20> zooey * r30734 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/keymap/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)[00:55:36] <CIA-20> * removed KeymapMessageFilter, as it is no longer needed[00:55:36] <CIA-20> * fixed a couple of issues with respect to internal/external naming of[00:55:36] <CIA-20> keymaps and the respective files, hopefully such that there's always one[00:55:36] <CIA-20> keymap active in the view: either one that has been selected or (Current)[00:55:36] <CIA-20> if any changes have been applied[00:55:38] <CIA-20> * replaced the dead-key-menubar with a menufield (thanks Axel, looking much[00:56:06] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:57:19] <BePhantom> aljen, i dont remember where in poland, but i'll ask him[00:57:28] * BePhantom texts his grandfather[00:57:35] <BePhantom> :D[00:57:51] <aljen> :P[00:58:48] <BePhantom> heineken is good, i also like warsteiner[00:59:12] <aljen> didn't drink that, i think it's not available in polandd ;[01:00:01] <BePhantom> his family is from warsaw and wroclaw[01:00:28] <pfoetchen> I love Schlenkerla Rauchbier but you have to like that taste ;)[01:00:40] <BePhantom> he just told me :D[01:01:12] <gordonjcp> presumably warsteiner is better over there than it is here[01:01:36] <BePhantom> i hate budweiser :P[01:01:37] <aljen> ahh warsaw, too far from here, szczecin[01:04:20] <BePhantom> i wonder how people can drink that :P[01:04:35] <aljen> BePhantom: drink what ? budweiser ?[01:04:44] <aljen> i wonder too :D[01:05:45] <gordonjcp> you know that in the UK the Advertising Standards Agency made them pull their "Fresh Beer Tastes Better" advert?[01:06:07] *** yoritomo has quit IRC[01:06:07] <aljen> nope[01:06:08] <BePhantom> yes budweiser, it's terrible. Americans water down their beer :P[01:06:40] <tehdwarf> budweiser isn't a good example of american beer[01:06:56] <gordonjcp> aljen: basically since it's demonstrably not true that "fresh beer tastes better" because beer tastes better after it's matured for a while, the advert wasn't even close to factually correct[01:06:58] <tehdwarf> if you're ever in california go hunting for Pyramid Brewery[01:07:00] <gordonjcp> *yoink*[01:07:02] <tehdwarf> that's good american beer[01:07:22] <aljen> gordonjcp: beer tastes better if its frozen :D[01:07:40] <BePhantom> bud motto: "the great american lager" :D[01:07:50] <gordonjcp> tehdwarf: I live in Scotland, we have about 50 fairly mainstream breweries in a country the size of Alabama[01:07:55] <tehdwarf> yeah, well, it used to be "king of beers"[01:07:56] <tehdwarf> go figure[01:07:57] <aljen> tehdwarf: all beer outside poland sucks, that beer have 1/7 % of alkohol then in poland[01:08:17] <gordonjcp> aljen: which is strange, because none of the Poles over here can hold their drink at all[01:08:20] <gordonjcp> ;-)[01:08:24] <tehdwarf> considering most beer has anywhere between 5 and 12 % alcohol[01:08:31] <gordonjcp> tehdwarf: uhm, no[01:08:32] <tehdwarf> that means polish beer is stronger than vodka[01:08:33] <aljen> gordonjcp: they mutated ;D[01:08:46] <awpeter> lol, we even beer with 11%-12% beer, but it tastes like cheap wine :P[01:08:51] <awpeter> we even got*[01:08:56] <gordonjcp> tehdwarf: most beer has between about 3.2 and 8% ABV[01:09:03] <aljen> nope, vodka is 45-50%, polish `spiritus` is 95-99%[01:09:05] <gordonjcp> awpeter: probably because you need a wine yeast to brew it[01:09:07] <awpeter> 12% alkochol* xD[01:09:07] <tehdwarf> I'll have none of this logic![01:09:10] <aljen> and lech beer is ~8[01:09:23] <glootech> lech strong[01:09:27] <glootech> lech pils is about 5%[01:09:29] <gordonjcp> awpeter: beer yeast dies above about 8-9% ABV[01:09:37] <tehdwarf> <aljen> nope, vodka is 45-50%, polish `spiritus` is 95-99% << at that point you're just drinking everclear[01:09:39] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[01:09:40] <aljen> i prefer premium over stron[01:09:52] <BePhantom> does lech make black beer?[01:09:52] <tehdwarf> and don't hold me to this, but I thought anything with an alcohol content above 95 combusted[01:09:56] <glootech> oh, yeah, premium, but premium is also 5% I think[01:10:08] <gordonjcp> tehdwarf: 99% is basically tape head cleaning fluid[01:10:30] <aljen> BePhantom: dunno, i live in szczecin, poznan is the center of lech, they had more kind of it[01:11:18] <aljen> tehdwarf: i drink 95% spiritus, washed with water in 1-3 may hehe[01:11:18] * gordonjcp has just finished bottling 25 litres or so of 4.5% beer[01:11:22] <aljen> it's brain killer[01:11:37] <aljen> you wash it 50/50[01:11:53] <aljen> s/wash/washy sorry for my english ;P[01:12:32] <tehdwarf> wikipedia proves it[01:12:37] <dr_evil> chinese "local" beer is awful[01:12:45] <tehdwarf> it's physically impossible to distill past 95.6% alcohol[01:13:01] <tehdwarf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol)[01:13:08] <aljen> tehdwarf: i've got a few mates which can drink plain `spiritus` 95%[01:13:23] <aljen> but polish and russian ppl have that in genes i think ;P[01:13:26] <dr_evil> but Tsingtao beer rulz[01:13:30] *** pulkomandy_ has quit IRC[01:14:13] <BePhantom> here our national beer (Quilmes) is 4.9% for lager and around 6% for black beer[01:16:03] <dr_evil> chinese local beer was supposed to have around 3%, tsingtao was around 4.7% if I remember correctly[01:16:06] <aljen> i remember i readed somewhere (some kind of encyclopedia about max concentration of alkohol in promiles in blood) it was 3-5promiles with adnotation that it doesn't concern polish & russian ppl (10-12promiles)[01:16:16] <kirilla> anyone have the BeZilla app signature handy?[01:16:27] <kirilla> the one from the binary that gets included in Haiku[01:17:10] <mmadia> application/x-vnd.Mozilla-Firefox[01:17:34] <mmadia> when renaming the binary to BeZillaBrowers, i didn't want to change the APP_SIG[01:17:46] <kirilla> thanks mmadia[01:19:05] <mmadia> hrmm... would it be possible to somehow have a setting, where a user could insert the app_sig of their default browser?[01:19:34] <kirilla> (I plan to set the BeZilla as the pref app of the HTTP and HTTPS url types, for now, so people have a better out-of-the-box experience.. constant reinstalls and all)[01:19:37] *** Geoz has quit IRC[01:19:43] <mmadia> this way individual applications wouldn't be hardcoded to a particular app?[01:19:49] <kirilla> mmadia: oh there is ![01:19:59] <kirilla> the URL mime types[01:20:24] <mmadia> would that be system wide or just for the url handler?[01:21:19] <kirilla> any application can launch, say, a HTTP link with the users browser of choice, if the user knows how to set the HTTP url type's preferred application[01:21:49] <mmadia> ah :)[01:21:56] <kirilla> it's system wide, but kind of hidden away in FileTypes, and applications can do what they please[01:22:25] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[01:22:47] <kirilla> but the BUrl class I'm working on will provide application with a little incentiment to not hardcode apps[01:23:28] <kirilla> well, its Francois' code originally, from the urlwrapper command[01:25:46] <awpeter> night ;)[01:25:52] *** awpeter has quit IRC[01:26:12] *** redblue has joined #haiku[01:30:23] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[01:30:49] <CIA-20> kirilla * r30735 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/application/ (16 files): Setting default preferred applications: bezilla for http(s), Mail for mailto: and urlwrapper for the others.[01:31:59] *** redblue has quit IRC[01:32:17] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[01:33:00] <BePhantom> lots of activity today :)[01:33:22] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[01:33:31] <BePhantom> hello mmadia :)[01:33:40] <mmadia> howdy[01:33:58] <BePhantom> you keep posting new interviews, cool ;)[01:34:16] <gordonjcp> is there a manual for the mail client?[01:34:32] <mmadia> well, i post links to the interviews ;)[01:34:50] *** kirilla has quit IRC[01:35:45] <BePhantom> it's a very exciting time for haiku, lot's of projects going on[01:35:47] <mmadia> there should be a total of 14 interviews.[01:35:50] *** adamk has quit IRC[01:36:06] <BePhantom> i hope at least half of them will be completed[01:36:33] <mmadia> well, i meant there will be 13~15, i might've missed or added one too many.[01:36:42] *** ntaylor has quit IRC[01:37:23] * BePhantom wants to be interviewed :P[01:39:09] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:39:50] <BePhantom> there are a bunch of new videos showing haiku on youtube[01:39:57] <BePhantom> there's even a review made by a girl[01:40:24] <mmadia> if you want, write up an article about them :)[01:41:00] <BePhantom> nah, is not that important :P[01:41:25] <BePhantom> lemme find it[01:41:34] <gordonjcp> files in ~/config/settings/kernel/drivers - I want to fiddle with the nvidia driver, does the file that I copy from the source tree stay named "nvidia.settings" ?[01:41:49] <BePhantom> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeuTT1MM6Z0[01:41:50] <BePhantom> :)[01:41:53] <mmadia> if they were recently made, it'd be interesting... it shows how random people are interested in Haiku.[01:41:53] *** redblue has joined #haiku[01:42:26] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[01:47:07] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[01:47:19] <HeTo> the Haiku revision is pretty ancient on that, even though the video is recent[01:47:39] <HeTo> r19350, with a kernel compiled on nov 21 2006[01:49:19] <HeTo> I wonder if she ever ran Haiku, all the screenshots at least seem not to be taken by her[01:51:50] <BePhantom> mmadia, did you see the video?[01:53:01] <mmadia> not yet, it's downloaded and waiting.[01:53:15] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[02:03:18] <CIA-20> bga * r30736 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[02:06:21] <CIA-20> bga * r30737 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp: - Added bitrate attribute to audio files.[02:07:30] <CIA-20> bga * r30738 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp: - Ops... Fix compilation.[02:11:56] *** oco has quit IRC[02:12:28] <gordonjcp> can anyone confirm where an nvidia.settings file should go?[02:15:22] *** redblue has quit IRC[02:18:24] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[02:18:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[02:19:00] *** jprostko has quit IRC[02:22:15] *** mmu_laptop has quit IRC[02:22:19] *** scottmc has quit IRC[02:38:58] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[02:39:32] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[02:39:55] *** sugar3 has quit IRC[02:43:47] *** Bumphead has joined #haiku[02:46:08] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:46:58] *** redblue has joined #haiku[03:00:33] *** knottnhupfer has quit IRC[03:03:10] <CIA-20> kirilla * r30739 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):[03:03:10] <CIA-20> Hopefully fixed indentation in BUrl header. Made data members in BUrl private.[03:03:10] <CIA-20> Added some class methods. Adapted urlwrapper to use the BUrl class. Removed a[03:03:10] <CIA-20> few obvious comments and some code that was defined away. 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No intentional changes to the core[03:03:10] <CIA-20> functionality of urlwrapper.[03:16:32] *** fcr has joined #haiku[03:19:33] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[03:24:14] *** redblue has quit IRC[03:24:33] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[03:24:49] <pyCube_> yep[03:26:02] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[03:35:57] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[03:40:43] *** gireesh has joined #haiku[03:46:35] *** fran has joined #haiku[03:46:51] *** fcr has quit IRC[03:47:01] *** fran is now known as fcr[03:53:17] *** M199 has joined #haiku[04:02:45] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[04:02:50] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[04:03:41] *** Master199 has quit IRC[04:20:50] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[04:21:46] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:23:23] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[04:32:25] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[04:33:01] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:33:41] *** scanty` has joined #haiku[04:37:05] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[04:37:05] <BePhantom> *now the time has comeeee*[04:37:06] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[04:37:25] <stpere> night[04:37:32] *** stpere is now known as stpere|zzz[04:37:38] <BePhantom> europe rulz :)[04:37:45] <BePhantom> night stpere|zzz[04:37:59] *** rcjsuen__ has joined #haiku[04:39:14] *** jprostko has quit IRC[04:45:27] *** scanty has quit IRC[04:45:34] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[04:46:27] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[04:49:23] *** jonathanbthompso has joined #Haiku[04:50:50] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[04:51:15] *** jonathanbthompso is now known as JonathanThompson[04:53:37] *** scanty` has quit IRC[04:53:56] *** rcjsuen_ has quit IRC[04:55:59] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[05:01:19] *** scanty has joined #haiku[05:09:36] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[05:24:06] *** fran has joined #haiku[05:26:18] *** fcr has quit IRC[05:26:26] *** fran is now known as fcr[05:31:16] *** fran has joined #haiku[05:36:04] *** gireesh has quit IRC[05:36:26] *** fcr has quit IRC[05:36:30] *** fran is now known as fcr[05:37:56] *** rcjsuen__ has quit IRC[05:37:56] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[05:41:03] *** pyCube__ has joined #haiku[05:42:34] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[06:04:23] * jprostko is idle: napping with the doggers[06:12:16] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[06:14:02] <Carbamide> Good evening[06:15:17] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[06:24:11] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[06:31:14] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[06:37:27] *** Rakhun has quit IRC[06:47:24] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[06:47:50] *** pyCube__ has quit IRC[07:03:50] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[07:09:54] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[07:10:20] <DrHouse_Compaq> can someone help me with somthing :) im trying to port libxml to Haiku using Jam and i am getting this error during linking http://pastebin.com/m2428e5bd[07:14:27] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[07:14:29] <DrHouse_Compaq> heres the JAM file if needed http://pastebin.com/m5702ebc6[07:18:16] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:23:36] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[07:41:53] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[08:04:51] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[08:12:11] *** aguent has quit IRC[08:19:09] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[08:26:42] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[08:50:10] *** aurynn has quit IRC[08:51:28] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[08:55:52] *** fcr has quit IRC[08:59:36] *** andguent has joined #haiku[09:03:13] <BePhantom> dropbox is awesome, just installed it[09:03:34] <BePhantom> cant believe i didnt see it before, it's so useful[09:10:22] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[09:18:56] *** redblue has joined #haiku[09:36:29] *** awpeter has quit IRC[09:41:39] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:43:46] <CIA-20> axeld * r30740 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/shared/AutoLocker.h:[09:43:46] <CIA-20> * Added operator=().[09:43:46] <CIA-20> * Style cleanup.[09:47:51] <Teknomancer> morning[09:47:54] <CIA-20> axeld * r30741 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/ (cdda.cpp kernel_interface.cpp):[09:47:54] <CIA-20> * Fixed some naming inconsistencies/typos.[09:47:54] <CIA-20> * Some cleanup.[09:51:58] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:56:24] <CIA-20> axeld * r30742 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp: * Even more cleanup.[09:58:23] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[10:00:42] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[10:00:45] *** expensivelesbia1 has joined #haiku[10:00:49] *** expensivelesbia1 has quit IRC[10:10:53] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[10:23:34] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[10:32:37] *** andguent is now known as andg|afk[10:32:48] *** andg|afk is now known as andguent[10:46:20] <gordonjcp> morning[10:47:37] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:52:31] *** nibble has quit IRC[10:55:55] <CIA-20> axeld * r30743 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/ (ShutdownProcess.cpp ShutdownProcess.h): * Style cleanup, added missing copyrights.[10:57:10] *** jprostko has quit IRC[11:10:51] <CIA-20> axeld * r30744 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/ShutdownProcess.cpp:[11:10:51] <CIA-20> * Make the shutdown request no longer prevent apps from being launched. 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Crappy behaviour.[16:35:06] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30746 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/BeBuild.h:[16:35:06] <CIA-20> * Changed the layout of the Haiku version and ABI constants to allow for[16:35:06] <CIA-20> more inbetween versions.[16:35:06] <CIA-20> * Added constants for legacy versions.[16:40:44] *** Karurosu has quit IRC[16:41:04] *** Karurosu has joined #haiku[16:41:42] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30747 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[16:41:42] <CIA-20> Removed the gcc_version from the runtime loader's image_t. Instead we always[16:41:42] <CIA-20> determine (or guess) Haiku version and ABI and use those for compatibility[16:41:42] <CIA-20> decisions.[16:43:16] <CIA-20> axeld * r30748 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/shared/AutoLocker.h:[16:43:16] <CIA-20> * Removed operator=(otherLocker) again. Didn't really make sense this way,[16:43:16] <CIA-20> as Stippi correctly pointed out.[16:49:38] *** diffz has joined #haiku[16:50:13] *** aurynn has joined #haiku[16:50:50] *** diffz is now known as diffz_[16:51:00] <diffz_> hi there :)[16:51:32] <CIA-20> bga * r30749 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp:[16:51:32] <CIA-20> Marco Nelissen: The bitrate of an audio CD is 44100*4*8 (well, the bitrate of[16:51:32] <CIA-20> the "files" is, the actual bitrate of the CD is higher because of error[16:51:32] <CIA-20> correction).[16:52:19] <diffz_> finally running beos on my laptop :) without vmware or stuff[16:52:28] <diffz_> I mean haiku[16:53:59] <umccullough> i was gonna say...[16:54:56] <diffz_> :P[17:00:38] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[17:01:47] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[17:02:01] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[17:08:42] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[17:22:56] <CIA-20> bonefish * r30750 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs):[17:22:56] <CIA-20> Symbol resolution functions in the kernel: Removed the unused parameter[17:22:56] <CIA-20> allowing optional prepending of a string to the symbol names.[17:25:55] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[17:29:16] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[17:32:36] *** diffz_ has quit IRC[17:33:11] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[17:33:12] <Hugen_> hey[17:35:01] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[17:39:03] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:44:12] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[17:47:20] *** Karurosu has quit IRC[17:49:21] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[17:51:56] *** luroh has joined #haiku[17:54:02] <CIA-20> zooey * r30751 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/keymap/ (KeyboardLayoutView.cpp KeyboardLayoutView.h): * fixed coding style issues[18:00:34] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:07:22] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[18:10:29] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[18:14:37] *** nibble_ has quit IRC[18:32:23] *** procton has joined #haiku[18:32:30] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[18:36:11] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[18:41:08] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:41:35] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:43:07] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:48:38] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[18:48:42] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[18:49:54] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[19:00:23] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[19:00:25] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[19:00:27] <Hugen> re[19:01:41] *** wtracy has joined #haiku[19:08:45] *** wtracy has quit IRC[19:09:25] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:10:15] *** cps1966 has quit IRC[19:11:10] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:11:37] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[19:16:07] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[19:19:33] *** kirilla has quit IRC[19:26:24] *** Rakhun has joined #haiku[19:35:16] *** Hugen has quit IRC[19:39:00] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:39:44] *** pyCube__ has joined #haiku[19:41:08] *** aguent has joined #haiku[19:42:54] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:43:30] *** koo5 has quit IRC[19:45:42] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:47:14] *** senryu has joined #Haiku[19:48:38] *** andguent has quit IRC[19:52:02] *** senryu has quit IRC[19:52:48] *** judgen_ has quit IRC[19:55:03] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[20:00:19] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[20:01:31] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[20:01:38] *** Karurosu has joined #haiku[20:01:54] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[20:02:41] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[20:06:55] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[20:11:49] *** redblue has joined #haiku[20:12:12] <CIA-20> humdingerb * r30752 /haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installing.html:[20:12:12] <CIA-20> Once more removed installation.html just[20:12:12] <CIA-20> to re-add it afterwards...[20:12:54] <CIA-20> humdingerb * r30753 /haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installation.html: Added installation.html once more. Sorry for all the mess...[20:13:04] *** aguent has quit IRC[20:23:46] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[20:27:32] *** adamk has quit IRC[20:28:06] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[20:28:09] <Hugen_> re[20:28:14] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[20:28:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[20:31:45] <Hugen_> dev.haiku-os.org failed?[20:31:49] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[20:31:50] <Hugen_> sic[20:32:30] <Hugen_> jak zrobiłem diagnoze ciekawą to się dev na serwerze rozpruł :/[20:32:47] <Hugen_> ups, sorry[20:33:04] <Hugen_> not this channel :D[20:33:30] <Hugen_> ooo working again :)[20:33:43] <Hugen_> o.O[20:33:46] <Hugen_> :D[20:34:58] <Carbamide> O<[20:35:04] <Carbamide> (it's a duck!)[20:35:37] *** ghane has joined #haiku[20:37:12] *** rcjsuen has left #haiku[20:39:07] <pyCube> eggs-ackitily[20:39:39] <pyCube> so logically...[20:44:21] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[20:45:32] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[20:45:36] <prOSy> hi[20:47:35] *** Mixerr is now known as Mixer[20:47:49] *** Mixer is now known as Mixerr[20:51:11] *** mmadia has quit IRC[20:53:22] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[20:55:01] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[20:56:57] *** atomozero has quit IRC[20:59:06] <CIA-20> rudolfc * r30754 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/nvidia/driver.c: re-enabled ID 0x0141, Geforce FX 6600, since the card is confirmed working OK by me. If someone encounters trouble, contact me.[21:04:25] <MrSunshine_> nice to see that rudolf is back a bit =)[21:04:27] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[21:05:04] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[21:05:09] *** jprostko has left #haiku[21:05:37] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[21:06:45] <kirilla> yeah :)[21:07:46] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[21:13:47] *** Svarthandske has joined #haiku[21:17:39] *** atomozero has quit IRC[21:18:32] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[21:20:12] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[21:24:09] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:29:58] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[21:30:27] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[21:31:31] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[21:31:34] <Hugen_> re[21:31:56] *** Barrett666_ has joined #haiku[21:34:06] <Carbamide> When I was in like 4th grade, we went to the local university for a field trip. It was Earth Day. There was this guy there that did a "rap".[21:34:14] <Carbamide> It went "Re Re Recycle Re Re Recycle"[21:34:20] <stpere> ouch[21:34:29] <Carbamide> Everytime you say that, Hugen, I think of that.[21:34:38] *** Barrett666_ has quit IRC[21:34:55] *** Barrett666_ has joined #haiku[21:34:56] <stpere> the worse part, is it often stop at re :) then hours later, an other re[21:35:02] <stpere> hehe[21:35:21] <Carbamide> :-)[21:35:41] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[21:36:53] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[21:37:20] <Hugen_> Carbamide: o.O[21:39:04] <stpere> hi Hugen_[21:39:06] <stpere> :)[21:39:12] *** adamk has joined #haiku[21:39:23] <Hugen_> I will not be every time told hi[21:39:27] <Hugen_> hi stpere[21:39:59] <Carbamide> Hi Hugen_![21:40:00] <Carbamide> :-)[21:40:13] <Hugen_> you do not know what "re" this means, where you live?[21:40:16] <Hugen_> :P[21:40:20] <Hugen_> he he he[21:40:30] <Carbamide> Oh, I know what it means, I'm just reminicing[21:40:31] <Hugen_> hey Carbamide[21:41:03] <Carbamide> O<[21:41:29] <Hugen_> ha ha ha very funny[21:41:33] <Hugen_> :P[21:42:20] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[21:42:53] <Hugen_> brb[21:42:58] <Hugen_> I have to explain it too?[21:43:00] <Hugen_> ;>[21:43:04] <Hugen_> hi Begasus[21:43:20] <Begasus> hi Hugen_ ! ;)[21:43:28] <Begasus> evening peeps[21:44:06] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[21:46:09] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[21:48:25] <Hugen_> Begasus: I have proposals...[21:48:36] <Hugen_> http://ja2.dragonriders.de/[21:48:52] <Hugen_> http://www.wormux.org/wiki/en/index.php[21:48:54] <Hugen_> ;)[21:49:45] <Hugen_> smooooooking[21:49:48] <Hugen_> :D[21:49:58] <Begasus> added to my list Hugen_ thnx !;)[21:50:25] <Hugen_> no problem ;)[21:50:45] <Begasus> still quit busy lately and game porting has been slow in the last weeks[21:50:55] <Begasus> hope to catch up on the next weekend[21:51:51] <Hugen_> I keep thumbs[21:52:33] <Begasus> ;)[21:52:54] <Begasus> could be that with gcc4 we can have better luck on some games[21:53:18] <Begasus> although acceleration probly will be a prob still .. haven't checked recent changes[21:55:29] <CIA-20> kirilla * r30755 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/text/x-url: Adding mime for Internet Explorer shortcuts[21:56:41] *** mmadia has quit IRC[21:57:30] <Hugen_> I am afraid, with SDL on Haiku something limps[21:58:23] *** paul0 has quit IRC[21:58:31] <Begasus> how's that?[21:59:51] <kirilla> limps?[22:00:42] <Hugen_> many games SDL, which run break open[22:01:17] <Hugen_> maybe this is problem Haiku gcc4 hybrid and SDL gcc2[22:01:31] <Begasus> ah .. that I don't use ;)[22:01:35] <Hugen_> but I don't thnik so[22:01:46] <Begasus> or gcc2 or gcc4 ... no hybrid here ;)[22:02:32] <Begasus> there's already scummvm for gcc4 ;)[22:02:44] <Begasus> still need to make a gcc4 lib package though ...[22:03:08] <Hugen_> http://zeta-games.com/forum/2d-arcade/129-powermanga.html[22:04:01] <Begasus> Failed to get gcc version for /boot/common/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.2[22:04:10] <Begasus> that should give you a clue I think ;)[22:04:38] <Hugen_> on example[22:05:00] <Hugen_> I use libs from TiltOS repsitory[22:06:06] <Begasus> they should be ok for haiku ... but I don't know how they react on the hybrid builds[22:06:57] <Begasus> also ... most games that I compile have the prefix /boot/apps/Games .... sometimes that can be a problem too if you extract to somewhere else[22:07:02] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[22:07:36] <Hugen_> I fear certain paranoia, apps for Haiku gcc2 will not want to run on Haiku gcc4 etc[22:07:47] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[22:07:57] <Begasus> yep .. you'll get a libstdc++ error for those[22:08:00] <Begasus> hi BePhantom[22:08:44] <BePhantom> hi Begasus :)[22:09:14] <Begasus> I need a bigger hd for the laptop ;)[22:09:15] *** sprma has joined #haiku[22:09:19] <BePhantom> how it's going?[22:09:26] <BePhantom> me too :P[22:09:31] <Begasus> maybe I could write out a donation page :P[22:09:33] <Begasus> hehe[22:09:41] <Begasus> fine here thnx[22:09:50] <Begasus> how are things over there?[22:10:31] <BePhantom> it's rather cold here but I'll survive :D[22:10:45] <Hugen_> brb[22:10:47] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[22:11:02] <PulkoMandy> Begasus, we're still waiting for a working build of grafx2 :D[22:11:51] <Begasus> whoops ;)[22:12:34] <Begasus> in Haiku it should be fairly easy to build (but that will only work on Haiku and not the other BeOS's anymore then)[22:13:12] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[22:13:51] <Hugen_> re[22:13:54] <Begasus> wb[22:13:55] <Hugen_> ...load[22:13:58] <BePhantom> Begasus, you used to be in beshare right?[22:14:08] <Begasus> yep BePhantom ... the old days ;)[22:14:16] <BePhantom> i remember you Begasus :)[22:14:24] <Begasus> same here ;)[22:14:49] <Begasus> hope the memory is not all bad :P[22:15:02] <BePhantom> there are a bunch of old beshare users here[22:15:08] <BePhantom> i wonder if anyone still uses it[22:15:47] <Begasus> yeah sometimes you can find some peeps lurking there[22:15:59] <Begasus> there's even a haiku version floating around somewhere[22:16:10] <BePhantom> neat[22:16:36] <Begasus> and if not ... I still have a working unizone around also ;)[22:17:26] * atomozero love InfoPopper[22:18:12] <Begasus> ;)[22:18:26] * BePhantom is watching Manchester Utd.[22:18:33] <Begasus> haven't checked it in Haiku yet .. but I loved it back then also[22:18:52] <Begasus> just installed ubuntu server in virtualbox under debian ...[22:18:54] <Begasus> ;)[22:19:08] <BePhantom> Begasus, you were from the netherlands right?[22:19:14] <BePhantom> or was it belgium?[22:19:25] <Begasus> Belgium[22:19:49] <BePhantom> ah yes :)[22:19:51] *** scanty has joined #haiku[22:20:09] <BePhantom> goooal[22:20:12] <Begasus> there another dino ;)[22:20:13] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[22:20:15] <Begasus> hi scanty ![22:20:18] <BePhantom> tevez :)[22:20:26] <scanty> hello Begasus how are you?[22:20:33] <Begasus> fine here thnx ;)[22:20:36] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[22:20:47] <scanty> that's good to hear[22:20:51] <Begasus> thnx ;)[22:20:57] <Begasus> how's things over there?[22:20:58] <BePhantom> Manchester will trade Tevez and he just saved the match :P[22:21:00] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:21:06] <Begasus> lol[22:21:12] <scanty> doing all right, thanks[22:21:21] <Begasus> nice ;)[22:21:34] <BePhantom> noone likes football here so i'll just shut up :)[22:22:12] <Begasus> :P[22:22:44] <Begasus> http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/35311/2668263830103680478S600x600Q85.jpg (that's my new hobby) ;)[22:24:06] *** sprma has quit IRC[22:24:14] <scanty> nice dog.[22:24:25] <BePhantom> beautiful[22:24:29] <BePhantom> i had one of those[22:24:49] <BePhantom> he was light brown tho[22:24:51] *** redblue has quit IRC[22:26:27] <Begasus> thnx ;)[22:26:48] <BePhantom> i had to give him away because he was destroying my backyard and he constantly tried to kill me cat[22:27:16] <Begasus> http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/1497/2377378210103680478S600x600Q85.jpg[22:27:26] <Begasus> those are the three we have atm[22:27:32] <Begasus> rofl[22:27:43] <Begasus> typicly BePhantom ;)[22:27:55] <Begasus> our yard is one put after the other ;)[22:27:57] <BePhantom> yup, mine was like the one above, a bit lighter tho[22:28:11] <Begasus> yep she's quite brown[22:28:12] *** sprma has joined #haiku[22:29:26] <BePhantom> huskys are very hyperactive dogs, you need a lot of space and patience :D[22:30:20] <Begasus> they all live in the house here[22:30:36] <BePhantom> my gosh :P[22:30:39] <Begasus> but they need lots of space for them to be able to let them run ;)[22:30:47] <BePhantom> you're crazy[22:30:48] <Begasus> nah it works pretty well[22:31:00] <Begasus> backyard is about 8 acre[22:31:21] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[22:31:25] <Begasus> well ... one has to be a litle crazy ;)[22:31:36] <Begasus> but still healthy crazy :P[22:32:22] <BePhantom> that's a pretty big garden :D[22:32:39] <AlienSoldier> real crazy and husky would do well also, for exemple you could feed them with killed prostitute :)[22:34:01] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[22:35:00] <Begasus> they love a peace of raw meat AlienSoldier ;)[22:35:11] * pyCube buys his first ever master brake cylinder[22:35:36] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:35:57] *** aljen has joined #haiku[22:36:02] <aljen> hey[22:36:26] <Begasus> 'lo aljen[22:36:36] <BePhantom> i have a very big old dog, he is a mixture of breeds :P[22:37:03] <BePhantom> he is so good to people (unfortunately) :P[22:37:08] <Begasus> oldest dog in the house is a small mixed breed also (10yrs)[22:37:33] <Begasus> planning our first litter by the end of this year or early next year[22:37:51] *** atomozero has quit IRC[22:37:55] <BePhantom> aljen, today i talked to my grandfather, he told me he knows your city, and he told me there's a football them there, pogon or something[22:38:04] <BePhantom> team*[22:39:07] *** prOSy has quit IRC[22:39:11] <BePhantom> ok, im out to do some pendrive shopping, be back in a bit[22:39:16] <BePhantom> hope kingstons are good[22:40:01] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[22:41:45] <aljen> BePhantom: yeah, pogon szczecin but i'm now a big fan of football;P[22:41:57] <Begasus> there .. closing for the day ...[22:42:02] <Begasus> nice talking to you all[22:42:03] <aljen> i'm not hehe[22:42:06] <Begasus> cya next ;)[22:42:23] *** markos_ has quit IRC[22:43:11] *** Begasus has quit IRC[22:50:01] *** RHarmsen has quit IRC[22:50:51] *** procton has quit IRC[22:55:14] <PulkoMandy> +++[22:55:18] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:56:24] *** Tekn0 has joined #haiku[22:58:42] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[23:00:58] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:09:54] *** sprma has quit IRC[23:15:55] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:16:40] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[23:17:16] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:18:23] *** M199 is now known as Master199[23:18:38] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[23:20:28] <pfoetchen> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5682470737.html[23:21:00] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[23:22:15] <mmadia> what about it? :)[23:23:22] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:23:32] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[23:24:21] <BePhantom> does anyone know where can i check if my new kingston pendrive is original?[23:25:36] <BePhantom> i remember there was a page in kingston where you entered the serial number or something and it would tell you whether it is original or not[23:26:14] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[23:27:56] <BePhantom> oh here it is http://www.kingston.com/asia/verify/ but it wont open[23:30:10] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[23:36:45] *** zaunpfahl has left #haiku[23:42:56] <BePhantom> The flash memory product you inquired was already registered by another user, so it may not be authentic Kingston memory product[23:42:57] <BePhantom> shit[23:47:02] *** kirilla has quit IRC[23:47:35] *** Barrett666_ has quit IRC[23:47:57] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[23:48:37] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:49:38] *** satellitehelf has joined #haiku[23:50:00] <Tekn0> satellitehelf[23:50:03] <mmu_laptop> or it might just be legit second hand ?[23:50:05] <satellitehelf> hi[23:50:07] <Tekn0> hi[23:50:29] <mmu_laptop> or maybe some registered a fake one first :)[23:50:37] <mmu_laptop> this does not mean a thing[23:51:37] <satellitehelf> hi mmu_laptop[23:54:00] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku