May 10, 2009 
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May 10, 2009 [00:06:05] *** miqlas has quit IRC[00:08:44] *** sugar3 has quit IRC[00:11:12] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[00:11:14] <Hugen_> re[00:16:23] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[00:19:05] *** octagon_ has quit IRC[00:26:04] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[00:31:44] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[00:32:42] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:33:22] *** yoritomo has quit IRC[00:36:19] <leszek> gn8[00:36:29] *** leszek has quit IRC[00:41:36] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[00:46:19] <CIA-15> stpere * r30687 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (TermWindow.cpp TermWindow.h):[00:46:19] <CIA-15> This adds a Text Size menu to increase/decrease the size of the font.[00:46:19] <CIA-15> This follows the enhancement suggestion #3203.[00:48:49] <gordonjcp> aww dammit, I just svn up'ed and started a build[00:48:58] <gordonjcp> :-p[00:49:02] * gordonjcp -> bed[00:49:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:49:47] <stpere> gordonjcp: sorry :)[00:50:04] <stpere> it's just a minor enhancement, no bugfix[00:50:16] * BePhantom pokes stpere[00:50:20] <stpere> hey[00:50:24] <BePhantom> :D[00:50:46] <BePhantom> comment ca va?[00:50:49] <BePhantom> :)[00:50:51] <stpere> bien bien :)[00:51:14] <BePhantom> you've been tweaking the source a bit i see :)[00:52:12] <stpere> well, I didn't commit anything really major yet :)[00:52:25] <stpere> mostly small bugfixes[00:52:38] <BePhantom> still, it's very important[00:53:01] <stpere> yes, it remove that burden from "core devs"[00:53:24] <stpere> and it keeps the testers motivated to report those small bugs[00:53:26] <stpere> :)[00:54:36] <BePhantom> brb, nature calls :D[00:55:15] <stpere> I often find tickets unanswered that are 5 months old[00:56:43] <mmadia> removing the burden from core devs is one of the best things that can be done.[00:57:02] <stpere> yes[00:57:07] <stpere> totally agree[00:57:32] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[00:57:50] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[00:57:54] <stpere> hi miqlas[00:58:00] <miqlas> Hello![00:58:02] <stpere> how is the weather in hungary?[00:58:15] <miqlas> Last day i was have an work interview.[00:58:23] <miqlas> It was very hard for me.[00:58:32] <stpere> oh.. did it went well?[00:59:03] <miqlas> I weaked up at 6'o'clock AM, and i come back today at 6:30 AM.[00:59:26] <stpere> where was your interview?[00:59:38] <miqlas> It was crazy! It was an evil.[01:00:20] <miqlas> In a small city, Torokszentmiklos. there is a CLAAS company, it makes agriculture machines.[01:00:48] <miqlas> CATIA test on AIX, ahh. i never used AIX before.[01:01:23] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[01:01:43] <miqlas> And an interview, if i know correctly it calls "stress-test". Very hard.[01:02:02] <stpere> ah yes, I see[01:02:13] <stpere> they asked you to do more it was possible to do in that time?[01:02:20] <stpere> just to see how you would react?[01:02:29] <miqlas> Yes.[01:03:20] <miqlas> I was need draw an combine (machine), draw an tractor[01:04:00] <miqlas> It was a torture for me :)[01:04:14] <miqlas> Bu i'm live[01:04:49] <stpere> :)[01:06:32] *** wtracy has joined #haiku[01:07:46] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:08:47] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[01:13:37] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[01:16:30] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[01:16:34] <Hugen_> re[01:16:36] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[01:18:01] <BePhantom> my lord thats very long name for a city :P[01:18:24] *** kirilla has quit IRC[01:18:42] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[01:23:59] <stpere> BePhantom: haha :)[01:24:16] <stpere> it's often called simply "there"[01:24:23] <stpere> as in : I'm going there[01:24:25] <stpere> :P[01:24:33] <BePhantom> it's a tong twister :)[01:24:52] <BePhantom> tongue*[01:33:35] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:37:40] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[01:40:03] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[01:44:24] <CIA-15> stpere * r30688 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/activitymonitor/ActivityWindow.cpp: When adding a new view in Activity Monitor, make sure the new view use the same refresh interval as the already existing views, to avoid having different refresh intervals active in the monitor.[01:44:50] *** andguent has quit IRC[01:46:01] <mmadia> how many is that so far, stpere?[01:46:34] <stpere> how many tickets?[01:46:43] <mmadia> *nods*[01:46:47] <stpere> that one doesn't count, it wasn't recorded :)[01:47:23] <mmadia> still a bug.[01:47:29] <stpere> that makes 3[01:47:34] <stpere> for today[01:47:39] <mmadia> nice[01:47:47] <stpere> one more ticket closed as duplicate[01:48:46] <BePhantom> 3 steps closer to alpha ;)[01:49:03] <stpere> hehe[01:49:39] <stpere> last weekend, 70% of tickets were closed (for R1)[01:49:44] <stpere> now it's 71[01:49:46] *** euank has joined #haiku[01:49:47] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[01:50:10] *** paul0 has quit IRC[01:50:23] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[01:50:26] <mmadia> R1?[01:50:42] <stpere> I mean, not counting those tagged for R1/A1[01:50:45] <BePhantom> does the cpu stepping app really works?[01:51:16] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[01:51:36] <BePhantom> by work i dont mean to open, i mean really work :D[01:51:43] <mmadia> haven't tried :)[01:52:35] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[01:53:07] <BePhantom> i hope there will be some kind of unified pref pannel[01:53:11] <BePhantom> panel*[01:53:29] <mmadia> there is, /boot/home/config/be/Preferences :P[01:54:20] *** wtracy has quit IRC[01:55:31] <BePhantom> is that an app?[01:55:46] <BePhantom> or some kind of script file?[01:56:00] <AnEvilYak> no, it's a folder full of symlinks[01:56:18] <bbjimmy> That is the folder with links to all the prefs applets[01:56:39] *** wildur has quit IRC[01:56:50] <BePhantom> i see, it would be nice you have one preference panel with all those applets[01:56:52] <mmadia> :D[01:56:54] *** ThomasShirley has joined #haiku[01:57:17] <AnEvilYak> BePhantom: I really don't see what having it as one ginormous app improves[01:57:19] <bbjimmy> I like the current way of doing things[01:57:31] <BePhantom> some kind of *cough* control panel *cough*[01:58:02] <AnEvilYak> again, that improves what?[01:58:24] <Disreali> haiku is not zeta[01:59:07] <Disreali> I could not stand that all-in-one pref app they had[01:59:24] <BePhantom> AnEvilYak, imo it makes easier to have things more organized[01:59:36] <AnEvilYak> how?[01:59:53] <aljen> BePhantom: i was working on that http://hitomi.pl/haiku/gui/preferences.png but my i forgot to add app, only had patch with those applets as plugins[01:59:57] <AnEvilYak> I don't see what difference it makes that they're all in one app[02:00:03] <BePhantom> everything in one screen[02:00:03] <bbjimmy> <BePhantom> things are organized now.[02:00:06] <Carbamide> I like how MacOSX does it, but I don't have reasoning behind my preference[02:00:09] <aljen> s/but my/after migration/[02:00:32] <BePhantom> aljen, that looks neat[02:00:45] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[02:01:25] <aljen> only apperance plugin was working, rest was WIP[02:01:40] <aljen> http://hitomi.pl/haiku/gui/preferences2.png[02:01:47] <aljen> that's apperance[02:02:03] <mmadia> I find that Haiku's GUI apps are very close to the unix philosophy : do 1 function, do it well, and do it in away that other apps can use it.[02:02:40] <euank> but unlink unix (linux) have one single that does all[02:02:45] <euank> *unlike[02:03:10] <mmadia> euank : iirc, the unix philosophy was geared towards CLI apps.[02:03:23] <euank> of course[02:08:50] *** ThomasShirley has quit IRC[02:11:49] <BePhantom> my comments always heat up things a bit here :P[02:12:23] <BePhantom> one of these days i'll get punched :P[02:15:36] *** thotypous has quit IRC[02:15:56] <bbjimmy> hard to punch through the net ... come to my dojo[02:15:57] *** baron has joined #haiku[02:16:04] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[02:16:05] *** baron has quit IRC[02:16:05] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[02:16:52] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[02:16:55] <adamk_> EVening all. I'm trying to hit the Apply button of the Screen preferences with hey. I have this command 'hey Screen set Value of View "ApplyButton" of Window "Screen" to FALSE'[02:17:03] <adamk_> But I get "error 0x 0" in response[02:17:22] <adamk_> "ApplyButton" is definitely the internal name. Any ideas?[02:19:56] <Disreali> aljen, That pref organizer looks really cool.[02:22:59] <aljen> Disreali: thanks, finishing it is on my todo list hehe :)[02:28:50] <BePhantom> does jmicron still support haiku sata implementation?[02:32:44] <stpere> hi adamk_[02:35:50] <dr_evil> BePhantom i hope so, they sent me hardware[02:36:53] <stpere> it seems Screen doesn't handle that message[02:36:53] * BePhantom wishes someone would sent him hardware for free[02:36:55] <BePhantom> :D[02:37:03] <BePhantom> send*[02:37:03] <stpere> start Screen in a terminal[02:37:13] <stpere> and in an other terminal, re-run your hey[02:37:13] <BePhantom> that's awesome dr_evil[02:37:31] <stpere> you will see that the message couldn't be understood[02:38:52] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[02:38:52] <AnEvilYak> adamk_: normally you'd have to traverse the hierarchy to get to it[02:39:06] <AnEvilYak> adamk_: i.e. of View "ApplyButton" of View "Parent_Of_ApplyButton", etc.[02:39:07] <dr_evil> we,, it just means more unpaid work, goiod nigt[02:39:11] <AnEvilYak> night dr_evil[02:40:10] <dr_evil> typos area sure sign of..[02:40:20] <AnEvilYak> too much to drink? :)[02:40:23] <stpere> night Marcus[02:40:23] <AnEvilYak> or not enough sleep?[02:40:40] <dr_evil> hehe, night ;)[02:41:20] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:45:25] *** redb1ue has quit IRC[02:48:26] *** nibble has joined #haiku[02:48:37] <adamk_> AnEvilYak: Well, even 'hey Screen set Value of View 8 of View 1 of View 0 of Window "Screen" to TRUE' gives the same error.[02:50:19] <adamk_> I just tried it after launch Screen from a terminal. Screen actually gives me some output when I run that command:[02:50:24] <adamk_> http://pastebin.com/m7cd82432[02:50:54] <adamk_> Time to revisit this in the morning.[02:53:23] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[02:53:37] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[02:58:19] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[03:01:13] *** nibble has quit IRC[03:04:48] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:21:31] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[03:21:34] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[03:23:25] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:30:07] *** euank has left #haiku[03:30:38] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[03:32:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:39:28] *** oco has quit IRC[03:40:03] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[04:01:18] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[04:05:34] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[04:18:49] *** Gaap has quit IRC[04:18:54] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[04:21:52] *** MichaelDev has quit IRC[04:27:53] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[04:33:00] *** Disreali has quit IRC[04:35:31] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[04:43:22] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[04:45:29] *** Matias_ has joined #haiku[04:45:46] *** thotypous has quit IRC[04:47:36] *** Matias_ has quit IRC[04:48:16] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[04:58:33] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[05:07:54] *** MichaelDev has joined #haiku[05:18:05] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[05:22:20] <mmu_man> Christine is Watching you![05:24:39] <stpere> me?[05:24:44] <stpere> >.>[05:25:18] * mmadia42 pokes stpere in the eyes ..\\,[05:25:35] <stpere> ouch[05:25:35] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[05:25:58] <mmadia42> now you can't see christine! :P[05:25:59] <stpere> one last bug then sleepy :)[05:28:38] * JonathanThompson plants a bed bug on stpere to sleep with him[05:29:05] <JonathanThompson> Better hope the bed bug doesn't byte![05:31:21] <ulterior_modem> hello[05:31:28] * JonathanThompson poits ulterior_modem[05:31:44] <ulterior_modem> Has anyone crosscompiled haiku on solaris before? :P[05:32:06] <JonathanThompson> I've not heard/read any mention of anyone being crazy enough to try :P[05:32:15] <mmadia42> ulterior_modem : lemme dig up a link.[05:32:19] * JonathanThompson notes he wonders if ulterior_modem is crazy enough to try[05:33:03] <ulterior_modem> Considering what my server is now. :P[05:33:04] <mmadia42> ulterior_modem : this is the most i know : http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Building-Haiku-on-Solaris,2[05:33:37] <ulterior_modem> http://680x0.com/~wthww/info.php[05:33:46] <mmadia42> if you make any progress on that , *please* let me know... i'm updating much of the documentation on the website.[05:35:39] <ulterior_modem> kay[05:36:57] <ulterior_modem> I wonder if you could build it with sunpro[05:37:25] <ulterior_modem> I'll just do it with gcc, totally not worth it with sunpro, haha[05:39:58] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[05:57:32] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[06:01:48] <CIA-15> stpere * r30689 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/ListView.cpp:[06:01:48] <CIA-15> Make ScrollToSelection() use "Contains" rather than an "Intersects" to determine if it should scroll.[06:01:48] <CIA-15> This make the end key work (trigger the scroll) if the last item is overlapping the bottom boundary.[06:01:48] <CIA-15> This fixes bug #1820.[06:01:55] <stpere> here you go :)[06:09:32] <stpere> so, nighty night[06:10:29] <mmadia42> \o/[06:10:30] *** luroh has quit IRC[06:10:39] *** luroh has joined #haiku[06:10:51] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[06:14:23] *** thotypous has quit IRC[06:21:55] *** mattlacey_ has joined #haiku[06:22:29] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[06:38:33] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[06:58:23] *** paul0 has quit IRC[07:06:51] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[07:08:00] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[07:30:37] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[07:34:00] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[07:40:36] *** fa11en1 has joined #haiku[07:42:19] *** fa11en1 has quit IRC[08:27:58] *** andguent has joined #haiku[08:28:00] *** Geoz has quit IRC[08:28:07] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[08:28:16] *** JT_ has joined #haiku[08:42:51] *** hugen_ has joined #haiku[08:42:59] <hugen_> re[08:48:31] *** sprma has joined #haiku[08:57:10] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[08:57:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[08:59:26] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[09:12:25] *** hugen_ has quit IRC[09:12:46] <mmu_man> http://revolf.free.fr/qdn/albaneye/albaneye.html[09:13:31] *** procton has joined #haiku[09:14:21] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:17:04] *** UiX has quit IRC[09:23:15] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[09:24:55] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:30:12] *** sprma has quit IRC[09:40:39] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[09:49:36] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[09:50:27] *** redb1ue has joined #haiku[09:51:33] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[09:56:23] *** hugen_ has joined #haiku[09:56:25] <hugen_> re[10:03:31] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[10:18:21] *** procton has quit IRC[10:23:12] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[10:26:54] *** procton has joined #haiku[10:27:26] *** MichaelDev has left #haiku[10:28:00] *** procton has quit IRC[10:34:27] *** stippi has joined #haiku[10:34:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:35:04] *** stippi has quit IRC[10:38:44] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[10:39:42] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[10:51:04] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[10:51:44] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[10:52:26] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[10:52:38] <philcostin> Is someone in Haiku now that can test this ticket also? http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2273 I can't reproduce it any more... it might have been fixed[10:53:03] <philcostin> be aware that if it hasn't been fixed, you will need to restart[10:57:46] <CIA-15> stippi * r30690 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/disk_systems/intel/ (ExtendedPartitionAddOn.cpp PartitionMapAddOn.cpp): Added optional tracing facilities.[10:59:40] <CIA-15> stippi * r30691 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/partitioning_systems/intel/PartitionLocker.cpp: Whitespace cleanup.[11:02:10] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[11:02:56] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[11:04:47] <CIA-15> stippi * r30692 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/private/disk_scanner/ src/add-ons/disk_scanner/):[11:04:47] <CIA-15> Removed this old code left-overs. I've looked through everything and AFAIKT,[11:04:47] <CIA-15> every code has been moved to and adopted in the new Disk Device API backend.[11:05:45][11:07:11] <DrHouse_Compaq> lol[11:07:52] <MrSunshine_> i dont even get it what put that thought into your head to start with =)[11:07:55] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[11:10:15] <CIA-15> stippi * r30693 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/storage/disk_device/ (DiskDevice.cpp Partition.cpp PartitionDelegate.cpp): Added tracing facilities and more tracing in some error code paths.[11:11:10] <CIA-15> stippi * r30694 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/busses/Jamfile: Fixed indentation[11:15:55] *** UiX has joined #haiku[11:16:50] *** gzed has joined #haiku[11:20:05] <CIA-15> stippi * r30695 /haiku/trunk/ (8 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)[11:20:05] <CIA-15> * Change the drivers that use the ATA stack (ata_adapter) to publish[11:20:05] <CIA-15> themselves in busses/ata instead of busses/ide.[11:20:05] <CIA-15> * Re-introduce Francois change to install these drivers in busses/ata[11:20:05] <CIA-15> when building with HAIKU_ATA_STACK = 1.[11:20:06] <CIA-15> * Adopted the device manager to look for drivers in busses/ata[11:20:08] <CIA-15> additionally to busses/ide.[11:20:38] <philcostin> MrSunshine_: :)[11:21:26] <philcostin> the error is, it should mess up the Team Monitor[11:21:28] <philcostin> http://dev.haiku-os.org/attachment/ticket/2273/team_monitor.png[11:21:30] <philcostin> like that[11:22:23] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[11:22:49] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[11:23:00] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[11:29:26] *** gzed has quit IRC[11:33:44] *** ThomasShirley has joined #haiku[11:36:13] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[11:39:55] <luroh> philcostin: no, i can't repeat it either[11:40:47] <luroh> i remember reproduing it a long time ago, but now i can't even launch runtime loader by double clicking it[11:41:41] <luroh> now i'm getting 'Could not open runtime_loader...'[11:42:21] *** Monotheist has joined #haiku[11:43:06] *** ThomasShirley has quit IRC[11:44:23] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[11:44:59] *** stippi has joined #haiku[11:44:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[11:46:10] <stippi> Is there anyone here who installs Haiku onto a partition from Ubuntu 9.04?[11:46:22] <luroh> stippi: yes[11:46:41] <luroh> but there seems to be a bug in udev[11:46:56] <stippi> sudo chmod o+rw /dev/sda5 doesn't seem to work anymore? Do you have any idea?[11:47:09] <luroh> resetting the permissions on the partition that you attempt to build to[11:47:13] <luroh> exactly[11:47:32] <stippi> do you know how to work around this?[11:47:45] <luroh> what i did was to create a 'disk' group and added myself to it[11:47:45] <stippi> I mean, other than "sudo jam ..."[11:47:55] <luroh> sort of dangerous though :/[11:48:00] <stippi> what tool did you use for that?[11:48:45] <luroh> i used the 'Users and Groups' GUI tool from the System menu[11:49:02] <stippi> ok, I'll try that right now[11:49:48] <luroh> ok let me know if that works for you, i'd like to report this bug to their bug tracker[11:50:57] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[11:51:42] <stippi> ok, what do you mean by "you created a disks group"?[11:52:01] <luroh> hold on, i'm booting that machine right now[11:52:04] <stippi> I see a lot of existing groups and I can also give myself more permissions.[11:52:09] <stippi> cool, thanks![11:52:52] <dr_evil> hi stippi[11:52:56] <stippi> hi dr_evil![11:53:33] <stippi> dr_evil: I talked to mmlr on the phone...[11:53:48] <luroh> ok, first 'Unlock', then 'Manage Groups', 'Add Group'[11:53:55] <stippi> I offered to change all the busses/ata drivers and ata_adapter to replace all those IDE with ATA[11:54:03] <luroh> 'Group name:' should be disk[11:54:21] <luroh> make yourself a member of that group and press 'OK'[11:54:48] <stippi> got it that far[11:54:57] <luroh> then i think you need to log out and back in again[11:55:07] <stippi> dr_evil: Were you going to do any work on ATA today?[11:55:11] <dr_evil> stippi good. I'm mostly busy with other stuff than developing during the next week[11:55:21] <dr_evil> no, I'm not.[11:55:26] <stippi> but it's Sunday today! :-D[11:55:54][11:56:08] <stippi> oh, ok[11:56:19] <dr_evil> dont know how to say that in english ;)[11:56:49] <dr_evil> and i'm assigned to the night shift for the next two nights :([11:57:07] <stippi> luroh: It still doesn't work, what else do I need to do?[11:57:16] <stippi> luroh: Or do I need to logout from the Terminal?[11:57:34] <luroh> you have to log out completely[11:57:41] <stippi> oh, ok[11:57:51] <stippi> and it just works because the name is "disk"?[11:58:27] <stippi> do I even need to sudo chmod the devices anymore then?[11:58:42] <luroh> no, you shouldn't have to chmod anymore[11:58:51] <luroh> that's the problem with this "workaround"[11:59:29] <luroh> you now have the rights to destroy every partition on your system without any questions asked :>[12:00:03] <stippi> luroh that's ok[12:00:25] <dr_evil> sudo adduser yourname disk[12:00:27] <dr_evil> does the same[12:00:47] *** joltz has quit IRC[12:01:02] <stippi> luroh: the disk group had 1001 as ID, is that ok? I didn't change any other setting besides the name[12:01:09] <luroh> correct[12:01:21] <luroh> it has the same ID here as well[12:03:51] <stippi> rebooted the machine and now everything works! Great! Thanks a lot![12:04:02] <luroh> ah, thanks for the note[12:04:11] <luroh> i'll try to report this[12:09:00] *** Plnt has left #haiku[12:09:04] *** Plnt has joined #haiku[12:11:40] *** sprma has joined #haiku[12:12:41] <philcostin> luroh: thanks for trying out that bug[12:13:04] <luroh> np[12:17:27] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[12:24:53] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[12:27:53] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[12:30:16] *** mattlacey_ has quit IRC[12:47:18] *** procton has joined #haiku[12:53:09] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[12:54:45] *** sprma has quit IRC[12:59:26] *** Monotheist has quit IRC[12:59:35] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:00:01] *** awpeter has joined #haiku[13:04:32] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[13:04:37] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[13:06:56] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[13:08:05] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[13:18:52] <CIA-15> stippi * r30696 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/deskcalc/CalcWindow.cpp: Fixed small coding style violations.[13:22:11] *** tqh has joined #haiku[13:23:32] <CIA-15> stippi * r30697 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/deskcalc/CalcView.cpp:[13:23:32] <CIA-15> * Repurposed the calculator icon. The icon only shows when the keypad is hidden,[13:23:32] <CIA-15> so someone using it to trigger evaluation is highly unlikely, since he can[13:23:32] <CIA-15> just press return/enter. But when DeskCalc is embedded into the Desktop, it[13:23:32] <CIA-15> is convenient to clear the text view. 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encountered when working on the[15:07:09] <CIA-15> Keymap preflet:[15:07:09] <CIA-15> * obscure the cursor only if the textview has the focus[15:07:09] <CIA-15> * initiate a drag not only if the cursor has moved to another index, but also[15:07:10] <CIA-15> when the cursor has moved more than three pixels, since otherwise it was[15:07:14] <CIA-15> impossible to drag the first character to the left or top of the view[15:07:17] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[15:18:03] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[15:20:47] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[15:28:21] *** brechtm has joined #haiku[15:39:57] <Carbamide_> Good morning[15:41:05] *** Carbamide_ is now known as Carbamide[15:43:26] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[15:43:50] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[15:45:21] <CIA-15> zooey * r30699 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/keymap/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)[15:45:21] <CIA-15> * dead keys can now be enabled/disabled via middle mouse button[15:45:21] <CIA-15> * fDragKey must be reset in MouseUp() as 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;)[19:32:58] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[19:33:29][19:34:07] <mmu_man> pfoetchen I found a german thing alike: http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/?title=Online_Demo[19:35:18] *** kirilla has quit IRC[19:35:19] *** dwarfyperson has quit IRC[19:40:54] *** aguent has joined #haiku[19:41:16] <umccullough> why do people use stupid quit messages[19:41:48] <Hugen_> he he[19:42:00] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[19:42:05] <umccullough> :)[19:42:12] <stpere> :D[19:42:47] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[19:42:56] <umccullough> heh[19:45:46] *** andguent has quit IRC[19:45:59] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[19:51:13] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[19:56:12] *** wildur has quit IRC[19:56:18] *** wildur_ has joined #Haiku[20:01:58] <expensivelesbian> if my various USB devices are not showing up in the mount selections within Haiku, what is the most likely reason for this? This is a Haiku, fresh image, about a week old.[20:02:33] <expensivelesbian> I'm not aware of how complete/incomplete the USB stack is currently, so my apologies if this is raking over old ground[20:08:34] *** thotypous has quit IRC[20:11:37] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[20:19:06] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[20:23:11] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[20:24:19] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[20:24:22] <Hugen_> re[20:30:46] <Carbamide> Hello there![20:34:54] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[20:36:53] <mmu_man> pfoetchen http://www.drobe.co.uk/article.php?id=2512[20:40:34] <luroh> Hugen: that was your 10th 're' today[20:41:02] <luroh> would you be ok with not re-ing?[20:44:51] *** rotordotorklos has joined #haiku[20:46:33] *** philcostin has left #haiku[20:48:09] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[20:48:53] <pfoetchen> mmu_man they have quite some interresting stuff on it http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/Cortex-A8+port[20:49:34] *** andre is now known as AndrevS[20:49:39] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[20:55:50] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[20:55:52] <Hugen_> re[20:57:36] *** rotordotorklos has quit IRC[20:58:12] <luroh> much obliged[21:03:40] *** yoritomo has joined #haiku[21:06:04] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[21:14:50] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[21:27:00] *** sprma has joined #haiku[21:28:29] <expensivelesbian> my US chum had a mate called Todd[21:28:40] <expensivelesbian> his nickname for him was "re"[21:28:58] <expensivelesbian> reTodd ~= "retard"[21:29:04] <expensivelesbian> US humour I guess[21:30:13] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[21:34:46] <luroh> expensivelesbian: i want to see if i can repeat that usb stick problem you mentioned earlier[21:35:08] <luroh> but my build machine is just giving me lockups so far...[21:39:08] <expensivelesbian> luroh, it's not USB sticks specifically, just some USB HDs I have attache[21:39:10] <expensivelesbian> ...d[21:39:42] *** lordheavy has joined #haiku[21:39:55] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[21:40:07] <expensivelesbian> I noticed they didn't show up as options to mount. It's not "OMG" important, but I'd be interested if this is a common thing with USB still, or if I have something exotic on my hands[21:40:41] *** UiX has quit IRC[21:40:42] *** lordheavy has left #haiku[21:40:56] <luroh> oh i see. yes, that'd be interesting to know[21:42:49] *** zaunpfahl has quit IRC[21:42:57] *** szczur has joined #haiku[21:43:13] <luroh> expensivelesbian: do you know what file system(s) are used on those HDs?[21:43:30] <expensivelesbian> FAT32 I think...[21:43:47] <expensivelesbian> good point though, I will check again. Hehe, schoolboy errors, classic[21:48:17] *** markos_ has quit IRC[21:48:56] *** glootech has quit IRC[21:49:38] *** [r4] has quit IRC[21:53:48] *** sprma has quit IRC[21:55:59] <luroh> expensivelesbian: fwiw, i can't seem to repeat it with any of the two FAT32 usb sticks that i have[21:56:23] <luroh> unfortunately, i don't have any usb HD laying around[21:56:32] <luroh> this is r30700 btw[21:56:49] *** glootech has joined #haiku[21:59:43] <expensivelesbian> well, that's a bit embarrassing, they're both NTFS. Ha ha, sorry, I thought at least one of them was Fat32. But that was probably the drive I wiped for Haiku. Derrr....[22:00:10] <luroh> ah :)[22:01:04] <luroh> i think there is an NTFS driver, but i'm not sure it works[22:03:06] <expensivelesbian> yeah, it's based on the same NTFS-3g that's in my Ubuntu[22:03:31] <expensivelesbian> don't worry, I'll be shifting all over to something else soon. Which should end the headache. Thanks though[22:04:41] <Carbamide> Are there any X implementations for haiku?[22:04:52] <Carbamide> X windows system, I mean[22:05:09] <aurynn> truly, the best point-defeation system devised.[22:05:14] <HeTo> there's some old X server for BeOS, not sure if that works with Haiku[22:05:34] <HeTo> but I don't know what you'd do with that[22:05:57] <Carbamide> Well, I'm wondering because I'd like to get wine running (for iTunes, yes, I like iTunes)[22:06:21] <Carbamide> I'm in Ubuntu right now, and iTunes 7.3 runs quite nicely under wine[22:06:22] <HeTo> getting Wine to run requires more than just X11[22:06:31] <HeTo> although I'm not sure how far miqlas got with it[22:06:34] <Carbamide> Oh yeah? I'm not familiar with the specifics[22:06:39] <expensivelesbian> iTunes runs like a wounded dog for me, under WINE[22:06:59] <Carbamide> expensivelesbian: iTunes 8 blows chunks under wine. The latest version that runs decently is 7.3[22:07:01] <expensivelesbian> of course, I only try iTunes as I know they make life had for WINE devs[22:07:15] <expensivelesbian> it's like an acid test[22:07:22] <HeTo> anyway, just find a light-weight music player and use Tracker for management :-P[22:07:34] <miqlas> HeTo, no, it did'nt works.[22:07:39] <expensivelesbian> or build your own, like I did...[22:07:50] <miqlas> I can't compile the process management part of wine.[22:12:01] <Hugen_> cze szczur[22:12:11] <szczur> hi Hugen_[22:13:07] *** nibble has joined #haiku[22:16:34] <gordonjcp> evening[22:17:02] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[22:18:24] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:26:48] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[22:27:16] *** nibble has quit IRC[22:27:53] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[22:29:36] <gordonjcp> is there a minimum spec for Haiku?[22:31:43] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[22:32:51] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[22:35:15] <HeTo> yes, Pentium[22:36:01] <HeTo> (and probably there's some minimum amount of RAM you have to have, and around 100 MB hard drive space)[22:36:32] <PulkoMandy> you need a mouse, a keyboard and a video card :)[22:37:05] <HeTo> oh yeah, and the video card had better be VESA 2.0-compatible (or is it more than that?)[22:38:36] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[22:38:48] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:40:13] *** Geoz has quit IRC[22:45:58] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[22:46:13] <HeTo> and I've just deduced that 73 megabytes of RAM is enough to get to the desktop without swap, although the terminal doesn't show up then[22:47:37] <HeTo> with r30148, which is admittedly rather old[22:48:15] *** aguent has quit IRC[22:48:29] <HeTo> so 96 MB could be made the absolute minimum RAM requirement for a current pre-alpha development snapshot[22:49:21] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[22:49:44] <expensivelesbian> gee, 96MB of RAM[22:50:17] <HeTo> yes that's more than the official minimum RAM requirement for Windows XP :-/[22:50:23] <expensivelesbian> hehe[22:50:28] <rennj> heh 76MB and r30629 comes up but no deskbar[22:50:44] <expensivelesbian> I think I'm running WinXP on a POS laptop, with the min reqs[22:50:50] <expensivelesbian> it's painful, to say the least[22:50:51] *** glootech has quit IRC[22:51:10] <HeTo> min reqs, so it's a Pentium 233 MHz with 64 MB of RAM?[22:51:25] <expensivelesbian> I'd set the min-RAM limit higher, just to give yourselves to breathing room[22:51:28] *** Fainto has quit IRC[22:51:57] <expensivelesbian> err, some breathing room[22:52:32] <HeTo> wait, XP requires sound card and a speaker or headphones?[22:52:44] <HeTo> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865[22:53:02] <rennj> ahh 84MB ram and r30629 is good[22:53:23] *** glootech has joined #haiku[22:54:30] *** glootech has quit IRC[22:54:49] <HeTo> it's kinda funny, XP requires 1.5 GB of hard drive space, but Vista recommends you to have 1 GB of RAM alone[22:55:10] <expensivelesbian> well, there was a huge gap of time between them[22:55:31] *** glootech has joined #haiku[22:56:28] <expensivelesbian> since XP came out, people are ripping and downloading movies and whatnot. It's not a massive leap to think that software would have to increase in complexity, size, "bloat" however you want to call it, to cope.[22:57:14] <expensivelesbian> I dunno, people want/expect to be able to do *a lot* with their machines, "out of the box"[22:57:27] <expensivelesbian> maybe not Haiku's market, but it exists[23:03:21] <PulkoMandy> +++[23:03:22] *** glootech has quit IRC[23:03:26] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:03:43] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** glootech has joined #haiku[23:05:47] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:05:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:06:55] *** Fainto has joined #haiku[23:08:25] *** sugar3 has joined #haiku[23:10:20] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[23:17:31] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[23:20:33] *** prOSy has quit IRC[23:21:07] *** yoritomo_ has joined #haiku[23:23:43] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[23:26:00] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[23:26:12] *** DrHouse_Compaq has quit IRC[23:26:19] *** yoritomo has quit IRC[23:30:51] <CIA-20> kirilla * r30701 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/stylededit/ (4 files):[23:30:51] <CIA-20> Make StyledEdit check its open windows before launching a new one for an[23:30:51] <CIA-20> entry_ref. Simplify the application class somewhat by removing DispatchMessage()[23:30:51] <CIA-20> and replacing the custom made ArgvReceivedEx() with a standard ArgvReceived().[23:30:51] <CIA-20> Rely on BPath to take care of paths relative to the current working directory -[23:30:51] <CIA-20> don't do it manually.[23:31:11] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[23:35:09] *** DrHouse_Compaq has joined #haiku[23:35:12] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:35:53] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[23:41:47] *** glootech has quit IRC[23:42:55] *** euzao has joined #haiku[23:42:58] <euzao> hello[23:43:06] <euzao> how is Haiku?[23:43:07] <gordonjcp> hello[23:43:33] <euzao> been very quiet those days...[23:43:41] *** glootech has joined #haiku[23:43:47] <euzao> nothing new on haiku-os... what about alpha?[23:43:56] <stpere> hi euzao[23:44:11] <stpere> steady progress is being made on that front[23:44:24] <stpere> IIRC, there are 13 tickets to fix before release[23:44:26] <kirilla> could be that the mentors are busy with the google summer of code[23:44:38] <stpere> but more could be added[23:44:44] <kirilla> getting the new students up to speed[23:44:47] <stpere> that's to be taken with a grain of salt :)[23:45:03] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[23:45:31] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[23:45:50] <kirilla> the attribute and write overlay filesystems for the new live CD need some work before an alpha CD can be released[23:45:57] * JonathanThompson hands stpere a grain or two, so he's got a backup in case the first one somehow ends up errrantly on a pretzel[23:45:57] <euzao> hehe[23:46:14] <stpere> JonathanThompson: :)[23:46:15] <euzao> live CD would be awesome[23:46:20] <euzao> ressurrection of BeOS[23:46:25] <euzao> would be an explosion, sincerely[23:46:35] <kirilla> there's no locking implemented in those two yet, so the do crash easily[23:46:37] <euzao> everybody who used BeOS before would try it[23:47:09] <HeTo> IMO a live cd that runs a desktop session isn't needed for alpha[23:47:13] <kirilla> euzao: the live CD works again now - it was missing for a while - but it's not ready for release just yet[23:47:23] <stpere> considering that there were like hundreds of thousand of download of R5 PE, that would be great :)[23:47:32] <HeTo> but one that can be installed from would be nice[23:48:03] <kirilla> HeTo: true, but it would be a bit embarrassing not having one now that everyone does.[23:48:21] <expensivelesbian> I used to think a CD install was vital for myself, but the dd approach isn't too bad, if you're happy with the CLI[23:48:30] <HeTo> well it's an alpha, it's not supposed to be finished and everything that everyone else is[23:48:30] <expensivelesbian> not for everyone, I admit[23:48:43] <gordonjcp> expensivelesbian: hardly any cli involved, tbh[23:48:52] <expensivelesbian> on the dd, no[23:48:53] <gordonjcp> and it's pretty much a "cookbook" method[23:48:59] <expensivelesbian> other than the CLI itself ;-)[23:49:02] <gordonjcp> "type this command, then type this command"[23:49:23] <kirilla> people won't really care what we call the alpha.. they're going to compare it to Ubuntu 9.04, Vista and MacOS X anyway.[23:49:25] <HeTo> gordonjcp: well you need to know what the device for your usb memory stick is[23:49:27] <expensivelesbian> well, actually, no, it wasn't[23:49:33] <kirilla> except a few smart people[23:49:40] <gordonjcp> HeTo: well yeah[23:49:46] <expensivelesbian> I had to compile makebootabletiny or something[23:49:54] <expensivelesbian> which wasn't pleasant[23:49:55] <gordonjcp> expensivelesbian: oh, okay, yes I had to do that too[23:49:59] <gordonjcp> really?[23:50:04] <expensivelesbian> it complained[23:50:08] <gordonjcp> what about?[23:50:19] <expensivelesbian> which at first, put me off, but it worked anyway[23:50:35] <expensivelesbian> I'd have to compile it again to find out[23:51:06] <gordonjcp> two warnings about formats?[23:51:13] <expensivelesbian> I don't remember[23:51:20] <gordonjcp> makebootabletiny.c:50: warning: format ‘%x’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 2 has type ‘long int’[23:51:30] <expensivelesbian> yes, that rings a bell[23:52:14] <expensivelesbian> I think it was that error, but I'd have to recompile to be sure.[23:52:38] <expensivelesbian> I'm 90% sure it was that error, now you've recanted it[23:53:04] <gordonjcp> is the author in here?[23:54:21] *** franxico has joined #haiku[23:55:06] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[23:55:59] <gordonjcp> bah, expensivelesbian left[23:56:04] <gordonjcp> I have a fix for makebootabletiny[23:56:52] <HeTo> I'm not the original author, but I made the BeOS port[23:58:14] <gordonjcp> okay[23:58:32] <gordonjcp> hang on and I'll blog it