May 3, 2009 
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May 3, 2009 [00:01:05] <mmu_man> /ns info julun[00:01:05] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[00:01:08] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[00:01:16] <mmu_man> [00:03] -NickServ- Last seen : Apr 30 14:47:29 2009 (2 days, 07:15:53 ago)[00:02:18] <stpere> thanks :)[00:02:25] *** Karurosu_ has joined #haiku[00:02:41] <stippi> stpere: IIRC, he said he would be busy...[00:02:50] <stippi> anyways, good night, guys![00:02:54] <stpere> night[00:02:56] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:03:09] <mmu_man> plop stpere[00:03:15] <mmu_man> plop stippi[00:03:18] <mmu_man> eh[00:03:22] <stpere> :)[00:03:53] <gzed> damn can't get it to boot on my system :([00:10:01] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[00:10:41] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[00:15:09] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[00:16:05] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[00:18:40] *** Karurosu has quit IRC[00:20:48] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[00:22:17] <mmadia42> what's failing, gzed ?[00:22:29] <gzed> I dd'ed the image directly on a partition and ran makebootable on it[00:22:47] <mmadia42> makebootable from what OS?[00:22:54] <gzed> linux[00:23:02] <mmadia42> linux doesn't have makebootable.[00:23:08] <gzed> shure it has[00:23:17] <mmadia42> o.O ?[00:23:49] <mmadia42> i thougth linux needed makebootabletiny[00:23:51] <Hugen_> yep[00:24:03] <gzed> that's what I used[00:24:03] <Hugen_> but don't work for me[00:24:13] <mmadia42> makebootable != makebootabletiny[00:24:26] <gzed> it does the same thing?[00:24:33] <mmadia42> it's not the same program.[00:24:45] <mmadia42> is firefox and internet explorer the same thing? :P[00:24:49] <HeTo> Linux does have makebootable, in the Haiku build tree[00:24:53] <gzed> look at the source?[00:25:16] <gzed> I am getting svn right now and compare[00:25:49] <HeTo> and they are very different programs, makebootable installs a whole boot sector whereas makebootabletiny just edits a few bytes in an existing boot sector[00:25:50] <gzed> but it's supposed to do the same thing without having makebootable's dependencies[00:26:20] <HeTo> (or in fact, makebootable installs both of the two boot sectors)[00:26:20] <mmadia42> it's still not the same program.[00:26:33] <Hugen_> http://drchaosproductions.com/go.php/Oi8vc3Rl/ZmFuc2No/cmFtbS5u/ZXQvZGV2/L21ha2Vi/b290YWJs/ZXRpbnkv/bWFrZWJv/b3RhYmxl/dGlueS5j/b61/[00:27:07] <Hugen_> sorry[00:27:10] <Hugen_> http://stefanschramm.net/dev/makebootabletiny/makebootabletiny.c[00:27:27] <Hugen_> makebootable for Linux[00:27:34] <Hugen_> bu suxx[00:28:11] <gzed> anyway checking out svn[00:28:53] <gzed> I'll go the full route and install from there[00:30:58] <gzed> the only box I can try it is a core2duo 2gb ram sata (intel ICH7) system (asus p5gc-mx1333 mobo)...[00:31:08] <gzed> try it on[00:31:32] <gzed> what kind of bios settings do you reccomend?[00:32:19] <gzed> I already enabled "legacy mode" for the sata controller[00:32:30] <leszek> gn8@all[00:32:40] *** leszek has quit IRC[00:32:58] <gzed> maybe disable acpi and pnp os as well?[00:33:41] <mmadia42> nah. keep them on. acpi's needed for certain functions, like detecting multiple cores, iirc.[00:35:40] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[00:35:53] <gzed> can use both cpus to build with jam?[00:36:14] <mmadia42> -qj2[00:36:23] <gzed> thx[00:36:26] <mmadia42> or -j#[00:36:36] <gzed> that will get it to build much fatser[00:37:00] <gzed> just finished checking out... whish me good luck![00:37:16] <mmadia42> the -q is always good to have, as it'll make jam quit when it hits an error.[00:37:39] <gzed> thanks for the hint[00:38:02] <mmadia42> sure thing :)[00:38:35] <mmadia42> bbiab[00:38:37] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[00:44:52] *** kirilla has quit IRC[00:52:21] *** Rakhun|away is now known as Rakhun[00:53:54] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:56:03] <CIA-15> stpere * r30593 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/screenshot/ (5 files): Cosmetic change for the border around the screenshot preview, as suggested in #3367.[01:08:59] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[01:09:15] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[01:11:16] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[01:16:07] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[01:16:28] <expensivelesbian> heh, is st pere on some fix-a-load-of-tickets quest?[01:16:31] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[01:16:50] <expensivelesbian> which is good, of course, don't get me wrong[01:16:51] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[01:22:06] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[01:26:24] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[01:27:10] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:31:21] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[01:41:08] *** cnuke has quit IRC[01:41:08] *** ntaylor has quit IRC[01:41:08] *** stpere has quit IRC[01:41:49] <CIA-15> stpere * r30594 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/fonts/MainWindow.cpp:[01:41:49] <CIA-15> As suggested in ticket #3717, I commented out the tabView in fonts preflet. I added a BBox with fancy borders to group the controls[01:41:49] <CIA-15> together, as I didn't like the view.[01:42:09] *** ntaylor has joined #haiku[01:42:19] *** stpere has joined #haiku[01:42:27] *** cnuke has joined #haiku[01:43:13] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[01:47:37] *** aguent has joined #haiku[01:49:44] *** aguent has quit IRC[01:50:05] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[01:50:10] <MaggieMay> hello[01:50:13] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[01:50:25] <MaggieMay> i am having problems with the videos working[01:50:31] <MaggieMay> it keeps asking for plug ins[01:50:40] <MaggieMay> i have many plug ins downloaded[01:50:52] <MaggieMay> many sites do work[01:51:06] *** aguent has joined #haiku[01:51:13] <mmadia42> is this with MediaPlayer or BeZillaBrowser?[01:51:25] <MaggieMay> mozilla/firefox[01:51:44] <MaggieMay> vista[01:51:45] <mmadia42> it's possible those sites are using something other that flash as a wrapper for the video.[01:52:01] <MaggieMay> how does a person find out[01:52:14] <mmadia42> wait... is this on Haiku or Vista?[01:52:18] <MaggieMay> vista[01:52:21] <stpere> hmm[01:52:46] <mmu_man> just how did you get here anyway ???[01:52:56] <MaggieMay> mozilla has it[01:53:01] <MaggieMay> as an addon[01:53:04] <MaggieMay> add on[01:53:07] <mmadia42> how'd you get to this channel?[01:53:22] <MaggieMay> when i come on it takes me here[01:53:28] <MaggieMay> am i on the wrong channel[01:53:30] <stpere> really?[01:53:32] <MaggieMay> should i go to vista[01:53:43] <MaggieMay> is there a vista channel[01:53:46] <mmu_man> well this is not a microsoft support channel :P[01:53:48] <MaggieMay> or is it linux[01:53:55] <stpere> maybe some extension developer is using haiku :)[01:54:01] <MaggieMay> so then why does mozilla offer this[01:54:11] <mmadia42> yes. why indeed.[01:54:22] <mmu_man> what did you click on ?[01:54:28] <mmadia42> this is who we are : http://www.haiku-os.org[01:54:33] <MaggieMay> is there a plug on that works for everything[01:56:24] <MaggieMay> would i be stopping things from working if i have too many plugs in downloaded[01:56:25] <BePhantom> mmadia42, dont mind MaggieMay[01:56:26] *** pgr2 has quit IRC[01:56:33] <BePhantom> he is always spamming[01:56:56] <MaggieMay> I'm sorry[01:57:12] <BePhantom> he should be banned imo[01:57:22] <MaggieMay> so i shouldn't be on this channel because you are a different server[01:57:49] <mmadia42> no, we are something completely different than Vista.[01:57:51] <MaggieMay> you are a different firewall[01:58:03] <MaggieMay> different securtiy systemn[01:58:42] <MaggieMay> any ideas about plug ins before i leave[01:58:50] <MaggieMay> any kind of simple help[01:58:56] <MaggieMay> that i could use and try[01:59:05] <mmu_man> try http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx[01:59:18] <MaggieMay> thank-you[01:59:32] <mmu_man> aw they changed their homepage...[02:00:06] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[02:00:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[02:00:18] <dr_evil> re[02:00:21] <mmu_man> plop[02:00:24] <MaggieMay> heart you[02:00:41] <mmu_man> "experience this in silverlight" ROTFL...[02:00:58] <cps1966> =-O[02:01:03] <mmu_man> http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/ "Microsoft Silverlight may not be supported on this browser or operating system. "[02:01:05] <mmu_man> ROTFL...[02:01:14] <mmu_man> "Light Up the Web"[02:01:15] <mmu_man> pfff[02:01:19] <dr_evil> just got back, went to sauna with 4 girlfriends[02:01:19] <mmu_man> this is *not* the Web[02:01:24] <mmu_man> can't we sue them ?[02:01:54] * dr_evil feels a loss of geekness[02:04:43] <mmu_man> indeed, that's 4 too many for a geek :P[02:08:32] <dr_evil> I should either go to bed or build another haiku image[02:08:56] <aguent> dr_evil: go to bed[02:09:57] *** UiX has joined #haiku[02:11:38] *** redblue has joined #haiku[02:15:10] <dr_evil> yeah, postponing that for 9 hours[02:15:30] <stpere> good evening Marcus[02:16:20] <dr_evil> hi[02:17:47] <BePhantom> dr_evil, go to the sauna again[02:18:04] <dr_evil> but they closed[02:19:55] <mmu_man> n8[02:19:56] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:20:06] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[02:20:31] <Kokito> hello folks[02:20:43] * dr_evil is watching some VNV Nation at youtube[02:21:05] *** MaggieMay has quit IRC[02:21:35] <Kokito> man, barcelona beat real madrid 6 - 2[02:22:04] <dr_evil> VNV Nation will also be at WGT 2009, great![02:25:39] * Disreali is idle: BRB[02:38:58] <gzed> hmm, running linux32 /bin/bash on my x86_64 host before the build, but jam is failing on me :([02:39:10] <gzed> the toolchain seems to build fine[02:41:10] <dr_evil> you have to build jam from the buildtools and use that one#[02:41:32] <gzed> already did[02:41:32] <mmadia42> it might be the use-32bit detection in configure..[02:41:36] <gzed> yeah[02:41:44] <mmadia42> it seems to mis-fire when linux32 is used.[02:41:50] <gzed> can't find the use-32-bits flag thingie on the sie anymore[02:41:53] <mmadia42> i'm whipping up a patch for you to test.[02:42:16] <gzed> mmadia42: thanks, you're very helpfull[02:42:20] <gzed> :)[02:42:49] <mmadia42> http://haiku.pastebin.com/m21c49b23[02:43:03] <gzed> I'll give it a shot right nw[02:43:14] <mmadia42> after applying that you'll need to re-run configure --use-32bit (or whatever that option is)[02:44:21] <gzed> k[02:47:30] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[02:49:52] *** Kokito has quit IRC[02:50:03] *** dos4 has joined #haiku[02:50:25] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:50:26] *** dos4 is now known as dr_evil[02:57:36] *** thebolt|away is now known as thebolt[02:58:28] <CIA-15> stpere * r30595 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/pulse/PulseApp.cpp:[02:58:28] <CIA-15> Pulse couldn't work in mini-mode since it was reverting to normal mode in every cases except when successfully launched in deskbar[02:58:28] <CIA-15> mode.[02:58:28] <CIA-15> That was the cause of bug #3384.[03:04:02] *** paul0 has quit IRC[03:11:02] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[03:11:03] *** Master199 has quit IRC[03:11:17] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:11:37] *** oco has quit IRC[03:12:42] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[03:20:57] <CIA-15> stpere * r30596 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/ScrollBar.cpp:[03:20:57] <CIA-15> There was an "off by one" error in the routine used to detect if a click was inside the arrow buttons.[03:20:57] <CIA-15> Reported by mmadia in ticket #3611. Thanks![03:25:19] *** koo5 has quit IRC[03:30:00] <mmadia42> gzed ?[03:30:11] <gzed> building...[03:30:16] <gzed> and rebuilding...[03:30:45] <gzed> heh, I guess I can't have a gcc2 haiku built on a 64 bit host[03:31:00] <gzed> going for a gcc4 haiku build[03:31:05] <mmadia42> why not?[03:31:23] <gzed> http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2009-01-31/haiku_finally_gets_a_native_gcc4_full_story_inside[03:31:39] <gzed> that's a comment there highliting this[03:31:51] <gzed> is the dude right?[03:31:58] <mmadia42> which dude?[03:32:35] <gzed> nickos commenting the story on the link a gave[03:32:35] <stpere> if his nick is stpere, he's probably wrong :P[03:32:52] <mmadia42> don't worry what nickos said.[03:32:56] <gzed> oh[03:32:59] <gzed> lol[03:33:01] *** dagray has joined #Haiku[03:33:23] <gzed> finished building the toolchain[03:33:31] <mmadia42> unless a recent checkin broke gcc2, there should be no reason why you woludn't be able to build it.[03:33:38] <gzed> it's a gcc4 one now though[03:33:56] <gzed> ok let me try this again[03:34:19] <gzed> I'll post on progress and steps I take[03:35:39] <gzed> restarted the toolchain build with "./configure --build-cross-tools ../buildtools/"[03:36:07] <mmadia42> real quick, are you using the same generated folder?[03:36:21] <gzed> yep[03:36:28] <gzed> isn't it doing some cleaning?[03:36:34] <gzed> ops I guess not[03:36:50] <gzed> going to wipe it myself[03:37:06] <mmadia42> read the bit about "Non-standard output directories:" in configure --help`[03:37:07] <gzed> rm -rf generated/*[03:37:34] <mmadia42> that'll allow you to keep a gcc4 object directory and a gcc2 object directory.[03:39:02] <dagray> Hey[03:39:04] <dagray> hows it going?[03:40:25] <mmadia42> hi.[03:40:42] <dagray> I can't think of any haikus[03:41:04] <dagray> well not really[03:42:32] <mmadia42> http://www.haiku-os.org[03:42:32] <mmadia42> fingers type away[03:42:33] <mmadia42> not at poetry, but at[03:42:33] <mmadia42> haiku oh es dot org[03:42:52] <dagray> :)[03:42:54] <dagray> nice[03:44:02] <dagray> I just kinda stumbled on the channel not having much of an idea what it was about -[03:44:08] <dagray> but it looks like an awesome project[03:44:23] <dagray> BeOs had a pretty solid design[03:49:22] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[03:49:39] *** dagray has left #Haiku[03:51:52] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[04:00:26] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[04:01:20] *** scottmc has joined #haiku[04:02:06] <gzed> ...failed Link generated/objects/linux/lib/libroot_build.so ...[04:02:51] <gzed> it's trying to link in the 64 bit version of lubsupc++...[04:03:11] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[04:03:19] <gzed> linker missing the "-m32" flag?[04:15:06] <HaiColon> Finally.. It was much easier to write my first Haiku/C++ app then to think of a name for it that's not already used by another app :p[04:16:23] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[04:17:14] <AnEvilYak> gzed: you'd most likely have an easier time trying to set things up under linux32[04:17:22] <AnEvilYak> we're really not all that primed for 64-bit right now in any manner[04:25:05] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[04:25:12] <MaggieMay> #vista[04:25:25] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[04:25:29] *** cps1966 has left #haiku[04:26:20] *** Disreali has quit IRC[04:26:32] *** MaggieMay has quit IRC[04:27:13] *** andguent_ has joined #haiku[04:29:46] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[04:32:40] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[04:42:45] *** aguent has quit IRC[04:45:09] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[04:56:50] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[04:58:01] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[05:07:45] *** megaf_ has joined #Haiku[05:08:45] *** megaf has quit IRC[05:09:17] *** megaf_ is now known as Megaf[05:18:41] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[05:21:09] <CIA-15> stpere * r30597 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (TermWindow.cpp TermWindow.h): (log message trimmed)[05:21:09] <CIA-15> Small tweaks regarding the scrollbars of terminal when used in fullscreen mode :[05:21:09] <CIA-15> * if there is only one tab open, no functional change[05:21:09] <CIA-15> * when there is two or more tabs open, display the scroll bar in the _ActiveTermView[05:21:09] <CIA-15> It simply didn't make sense to not display the scrollbars in the _ActiveTermView[05:21:13] <CIA-15> since it was already shown in the other tabs. On the other hand, I can[05:21:15] <CIA-15> understand not showing the scrollbar when there is no tabview visible, as it[05:26:15] *** libervisco has quit IRC[05:32:51] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[05:34:25] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[05:42:15] *** memenode has joined #haiku[05:45:12] *** libervisco has quit IRC[05:46:31] *** liberfiasco has quit IRC[05:51:55] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:19:18] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[06:20:51] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[06:29:23] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[06:31:18] *** memenode has quit IRC[06:33:42] *** skar1 has joined #haiku[06:34:21] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[06:38:18] *** scottmc has quit IRC[06:43:00] *** pyCube___ has joined #haiku[06:43:13] <pyCube___> hi[06:48:45] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[06:54:49] <skar1> hi[07:00:23] *** libervisco has quit IRC[07:02:29] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[07:03:57] *** MaggieMay has quit IRC[07:21:39] *** memenode has joined #haiku[07:25:36] *** redblue has quit IRC[07:32:06] *** pyCube___ has quit IRC[07:36:02] *** Advant- has joined #Haiku[07:36:02] *** Advant has quit IRC[07:38:19] *** Fainto has quit IRC[07:44:45] *** Megaf has quit IRC[07:50:46] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[07:50:47] *** liberfiasco has quit IRC[08:03:35] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[08:06:26] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[08:12:12] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[08:12:41] *** arigayas_away has quit IRC[08:16:21] *** arigayas has joined #haiku[08:17:32] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[08:18:08] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[08:24:24] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[08:32:28] *** Bumphead1 has joined #haiku[08:32:28] *** Bumphead has quit IRC[08:36:11] *** Geoz has quit IRC[08:38:02] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[08:39:04] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[08:42:03] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[08:44:12] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[08:51:39] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[08:53:34] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[09:01:00] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[09:05:49] *** memenode has quit IRC[09:08:04] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[09:08:09] <Hugen_> hi all[09:12:24] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[09:21:52] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[09:24:23] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:27:06] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[09:30:27] *** memenode has joined #haiku[09:36:26] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[09:37:58] <CIA-15> rudolfc * r30598 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added Andrea's card 01d7: G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300][09:39:55] *** liberfiasco has quit IRC[09:41:07] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[09:41:33] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[09:43:48] <skar1> bye bye[09:43:50] *** skar1 has left #haiku[09:49:47] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[09:49:47] *** expensivelesbia1 has joined #haiku[09:51:04] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[09:53:22] *** tombhad-AC has joined #haiku[09:56:33] *** expensivelesbia1 has quit IRC[10:02:16] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[10:04:22] *** stippi has joined #haiku[10:04:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:07:21] *** memenode has quit IRC[10:16:16] *** gzed has quit IRC[10:22:25] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:22:30] *** memenode has joined #haiku[10:23:56] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[10:25:29] *** liberfiasco has quit IRC[10:27:16] *** kr1stof has left #haiku[10:29:52] <CIA-15> stippi * r30599 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Patch by Shinta: The key code was misnamed. Thanks a lot![10:31:48] <expensivelesbian> ok...gonna get around to installing Haiku to a partition...we got any good docs on this procedure?[10:32:08] <expensivelesbian> I'm looking at luposian's on haiku-os[10:37:06] *** gzed has joined #haiku[10:46:48] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[10:47:43] *** gzed has left #haiku[10:59:42] *** tombhad-AC has quit IRC[11:02:46] *** ArcticFox has joined #haiku[11:06:22] <ArcticFox> Is there layout switcher in haiku?[11:07:55] <ArcticFox> http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090502/21504/s1xWDyr2dH.png it's not very comfortable to use keymap dialog to swith layouts (:[11:08:17] *** databridge has joined #haiku[11:09:14] <VinDuv> ArcticFox: There is an optional package IIRC[11:10:56] <VinDuv> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/dotmatrix4beos[11:12:48] <ArcticFox> Thanks. And is it possible to run haiku in 1280×800 resolution?[11:17:14] *** andguent_ has quit IRC[11:23:51] *** databridge has quit IRC[11:30:03] <CIA-15> stippi * r30600 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/ (13 files): (log message trimmed)[11:30:03] <CIA-15> First round of cleanup:[11:30:03] <CIA-15> * Renamed CopyEngine to WorkerThread, since it's used for other things than[11:30:03] <CIA-15> just copying.[11:30:03] <CIA-15> * Removed the code borrowed from Tracker.[11:30:03] <CIA-15> * Removed the InstallerCopyLoopControl, since the CopyEngine handles[11:30:05] <CIA-15> notifications and cancelling by itself now.[11:30:31] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[11:32:17] *** pgr has joined #haiku[11:32:35] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[11:32:38] <_-Caleb-_> hi[11:33:18] <CIA-15> stippi * r30601 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/ (6 files):[11:33:18] <CIA-15> Cleanup round 2:[11:33:18] <CIA-15> Renamed CopyEngine2 back to CopyEngine.[11:36:13] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[11:38:07] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[11:41:15] <atomozero> thx rudolf!! by by Vesa Mode!! :)[11:43:32] *** ArcticFox has left #haiku[11:47:10] *** atomozero has quit IRC[11:50:31] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[11:55:48] <CIA-15> stippi * r30602 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)[11:55:48] <CIA-15> * Refactored the way targets are collected before copy process begins, this[11:55:48] <CIA-15> way, the optional packages (if there would be any) can be collected as well[11:55:48] <CIA-15> before the actual process starts and the progress bar will reflect them[11:55:48] <CIA-15> correctly. Before this change, the progress bar would have reset itself for[11:55:48] <CIA-15> every optional package.[11:55:52] <CIA-15> * In one of my previous commits, I added the error, if there was any, to the[12:05:37] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[12:09:30] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[12:15:15] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[12:32:33] *** nibble has joined #haiku[12:34:44] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[12:37:47] <MrSunshine___> does ARM hold any improvements against x86 etc?[12:40:04] *** sprma has joined #haiku[12:42:16] <thebolt> a sane instruction set? ;)[12:42:23] <thebolt> (and lots of registers)[12:44:12] <Gaap> anyway to use an atheros wifi card in haiku?[12:46:56] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[12:50:26] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, no wifi stack yet[12:50:40] <MrSunshine___> work in progress tho :)[12:50:40] <Gaap> nvidia video driver?[12:50:48] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, for lower end cards .. not the newest ones[12:50:53] *** stippi has quit IRC[12:50:54] <Gaap> yea, lower[12:50:55] <MrSunshine___> but no 3d accel[12:51:04] <Gaap> any guide?[12:51:08] <kirilla> all in good time[12:51:20] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, just install and it will load itself if it supports your card? :)[12:51:35] <Gaap> :O[12:51:46] <Gaap> nice ^^[12:51:52] <Gaap> linux user gh[12:52:28] <MrSunshine___> haiku probes the hw and tries to load drivers while you boot, if it find a driver that has supported hardware in thecomputer it loads it automagicly :)[12:53:18] <kirilla> Gaap: currently there are a couple of other hoops you have to jump through, to get Haiku installed[12:53:19] <MrSunshine___> almost like linux with built in modules in the kernel :) but haiku dosnt have them builtin into the kernel :P[12:53:27] <kirilla> since Haiku is not yet actually released[12:54:07] <kirilla> there are only raw HD filesystem images and virtual machine images freely available[12:54:19] <Gaap> i installed a raw image on hd[12:54:24] <MrSunshine___> ye :/ that also, i do it by the build script, and write it directly to a partition, then i have 2 partitions, one for installing and one for using, so i boot the install partition, mount my user partition, remove the system directories etc, copy over the new ones and reboot :P[12:54:26] <kirilla> great :)[12:54:32] <Gaap> not necessary to optimize it?[12:54:43] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, optimize it ?[12:54:55] <Gaap> i don't know :p modify something?[12:54:58] <kirilla> Gaap: if it boots and works, then that's great![12:54:59] <Gaap> add programs?[12:55:05] <Gaap> ^^[12:55:14] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, dunno what follows the raw image that you can download[12:55:18] <kirilla> sure, just download stuff from www.bebits.com or www.haikuware.com[12:55:27] <Gaap> ^^ ty[12:55:44] <MrSunshine___> i do my images myself so i add all optional packages that comes with the scripts and then i download the rest if i need anything more :)[12:55:50] <kirilla> see what works.. Haiku is supposed to be backwards compatible with BeOS, so BeOS software should work.[12:56:00] <MrSunshine___> if you have gcc2 build[12:56:14] <MrSunshine___> aparently haiku-files has started to make gcc4 builds also[12:56:16] <kirilla> Not all BeOS software is all that great, compared to current Linux offerings, but that will change eventually.[12:56:49] <kirilla> We're just too busy with Haiku itself to bother with making those supergreat apps right now.[12:57:13] <MrSunshine___> Gaap, did you download raw image only or the pre-alpha imagE?[12:57:21] <MrSunshine___> aparently the pre-alpha contains devtools etc etc[12:57:27] <Gaap> pre-alpha[12:57:30] <MrSunshine___> ok :)[12:57:36] <MrSunshine___> then you should have browser etc also :)[12:57:44] <Gaap> yes :)[12:58:42] <MrSunshine___> time to get out of bed i guess .. now its 13:00 :P[12:58:48] <MrSunshine___> i slept over 12 hours tonight :)[12:58:54] <kirilla> heh[12:59:07] <MrSunshine___> cut ~25 cubic meters of wood yesterday .. kinda took the strenght out of me :P[13:00:21] <MrSunshine___> http://195.149.144.149/images/74/7444621674.jpg <- using one of those :)[13:00:24] <MrSunshine___> very good machines :)[13:01:30] <kirilla> MrSunshine__: oj, en svenne banan! :)[13:01:30] <kirilla> :))[13:01:41] *** essiene has joined #haiku[13:01:57] <Hugen_> bbl[13:02:03] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[13:02:08] <kirilla> förlåt det respektlösa uttrycket :))[13:03:23] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[13:03:37] <MrSunshine___> kirilla, aye :)[13:04:08] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[13:04:23] <kirilla> MrSunshine__: how far up north?[13:05:23] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[13:05:28] <MrSunshine___> dalarna[13:05:45] <Rakhun> kirilla: one more svenne banan here :)[13:06:00] <kirilla> Roligt![13:06:10] * kirilla bugar för Rakhun[13:06:53] <Rakhun> one that prefers english though :P (and I know it can be annoying to see people talking a strange language you don't understand, for the non-swedes that is)[13:07:26] *** brechtm has joined #haiku[13:08:13] <thebolt> (another one here ;)[13:08:38] <Rakhun> :)[13:08:41] <kirilla> well, I do too, for the most part, but its a bit sad to just give up in the face the dominant culture[13:09:08] <Rakhun> hm, I don't see it as giving up[13:10:23] <Rakhun> and of course it's not a whole culture, just a language :)[13:10:33] <kirilla> If you can't have a conversation about Haiku (or other things you care about) in Swedish, with few or no English expressions.. well.. we are losing our language, losing our way to express ourselves in our own cultural spehere[13:10:52] <kirilla> culture and language are intertwined[13:11:10] <Rakhun> sure[13:11:42] <Rakhun> I don't see much benefit in having our unique way of communicating however[13:13:02] *** brechtm has quit IRC[13:13:54] <Rakhun> single universal language :) (which could as well be swedish)[13:14:52] <kirilla> as an example, in a future all-English (or all-Chinese) world, knäckebröd, Stockholm and Dalarna would be opaque phrases, not having any discernable, intrinsic meaning.[13:15:48][13:15:49] <Rakhun> well, Stockholm and Dalarna are names, so they would remain[13:15:58] <MrSunshine___> use it when talking to kin :)[13:16:18] <kirilla> sure they would remain, but we'd lose touch with their intrinsic meaning (stock-holm)[13:16:32] <Rakhun> true[13:16:34] <kirilla> stuff like that[13:16:45] <Rakhun> not that I think people think about that much anyway[13:17:13] <kirilla> yeah, we take it for granted[13:17:35] <kirilla> we would be culturally poor without it[13:17:41] <kirilla> IMO[13:17:44] *** essiene_ has joined #haiku[13:17:47] <kirilla> so anyway :)) Haiku?[13:18:50] <kirilla> (btw, I may have a shaved head, but I'm no nationalist or anything like that)[13:19:02] <MrSunshine___> OMG NAZI![13:19:07] <MrSunshine___> ;)[13:19:09] <Rakhun> heh[13:20:41] <kirilla> I kinda wish I had a pair of boots and suspenders though. That'd be fun. :)[13:22:11] *** essiene_ has quit IRC[13:22:41] *** essiene_ has joined #haiku[13:23:24] *** essiene has quit IRC[13:23:36] *** essiene_ has quit IRC[13:24:40] *** essiene has joined #haiku[13:24:48] *** NeonLich1 is now known as NeonLicht[13:27:56] *** Monni has joined #Haiku[13:32:59] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[13:35:33] *** essiene_ has joined #haiku[13:38:13] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[13:39:07] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[13:44:38] <expensivelesbian> shaved head here also.[13:44:44] <expensivelesbian> no suspenders though[13:45:07] *** pgr2 has joined #haiku[13:48:04] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30603 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/audio/x-mdx: Adding mimetype for SHARP X68000 MDX (Music Data for mXdrv) Sound File[13:50:53] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[13:51:55] *** essiene has quit IRC[13:52:34] *** sprma has quit IRC[13:54:20] *** nibble has quit IRC[13:54:36] *** nibble has joined #haiku[13:57:50] *** kirilla has quit IRC[13:59:03] *** tqh has joined #haiku[13:59:47] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[14:02:16] *** pgr has quit IRC[14:05:14] *** andguent has joined #haiku[14:05:18] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:05:53] *** tqh has joined #haiku[14:06:46] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[14:08:15] *** thotypous has quit IRC[14:09:03] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[14:09:29] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[14:16:58] <CIA-15> bonefish * r30604 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/CopyEngine.cpp: Build fix.[14:19:10] *** memenode has quit IRC[14:19:44] *** oco has joined #haiku[14:23:32] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[14:23:39] *** liberfiasco has quit IRC[14:29:55] <CIA-15> bonefish * r30605 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm_cache.cpp:[14:29:55] <CIA-15> VMCache::Resize(): When shrinking the cache unmap the pages we're removing.[14:29:55] <CIA-15> Theoretically, not doing that could have caused still mapped pages to get[14:29:55] <CIA-15> into the free queue. 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Do I need it?[16:12:20] <PulkoMandy> yes[16:12:28] <Carbamide> Ok[16:18:26] *** UiX has quit IRC[16:22:11] <kirilla> There's a weird thing about the Volume replicant and the Media preferences[16:22:55] <kirilla> When dropped from the volume deskbar icon's popup to one[16:23:02] <kirilla> to one's desktop[16:23:18] <kirilla> It blocks the Media Preferences window from receving focus[16:23:55] <kirilla> put another way, if you have the volume replicant on your desktop, you can't use the Media prefs.[16:24:09] <kirilla> (at least that's what I'm seeing)[16:24:13] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[16:25:39] *** Disreali_away has quit IRC[16:25:49] <expensivelesbia1> hi. Is it possible to install an image to a partition?[16:26:19] <fcr> yes if you makebootable later[16:27:34] <expensivelesbia1> is there a specific app I need to use to "install" the image to a partition? Do I need to format the partion prior to this?[16:28:11] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[16:28:31] <fcr> just dd the image to the partition, and run the program makebootable to it[16:29:25] <fcr> the filesystem comes inside the image, so you won't need to format anything[16:29:54] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[16:30:42] * kirilla looks forward to cd images[16:30:45] <expensivelesbia1> ok, cool. Will try that. makebootable, do I need to download this from somewhere? I'm on Ubuntu[16:30:59] <kirilla> less hand-holding with cd images[16:31:48] <expensivelesbia1> kirilla, yeah, I was thinking of that. do we have ISOs available anywhere, or do you have to roll your own?[16:32:19] <kirilla> you can roll your own, but that entails checking out hakiu source and all that jazz.. a lot of work[16:32:33] <kirilla> not that I want to discourage anyone :)[16:32:34] <expensivelesbia1> I've checked out the source once...[16:32:40] <kirilla> jam -q haiku-cd[16:32:55] <expensivelesbia1> as I'm not a C++ hacker, or likely to be any time soon, it felt a bit like overkill[16:33:03] <kirilla> then simply burn the generated/haiku-cd.iso (or whatever its called) as a single track as usual[16:33:28] <kirilla> if you can build haiku, you can easily make a cd[16:33:37] <expensivelesbia1> this was a while back[16:33:45] <kirilla> but currently they don't seem to work right[16:34:06] <kirilla> at least I'm hitting a bug that crashes at late boot[16:34:25] *** Carbamide has 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Colin_Finck|afk[18:08:38] <luroh> mmadia: guess no obvious way to just restart the thing?[18:09:47] <mmadia> i feel as useless as an anvil being used as a life raft.[18:10:43] <luroh> hehe[18:11:53] <umccullough_lap> this seems to be the problem[18:11:56] <umccullough_lap> [Sun May 03 11:13:40 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] TracError: Database newer than Trac version[18:12:04] <umccullough_lap> so... restarting doesn't seem to help :)[18:12:26] *** expensivelesbia1 has quit IRC[18:13:54] <luroh> hmm, that reminds me, i have seen error messages like "please upgrade your installation" appearing lately[18:14:10] <luroh> just reloading the page made it go away[18:14:48] <mmadia> do you remember what day that was?[18:15:17] <luroh> sadly not, but it feels like it could have been a week ago or so[18:15:40] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[18:18:37] <mmadia> at least our Trac installation isn't the only one down : http://trac.edgewall.org/ :P[18:19:21] *** MainRo has joined 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device, if You want boot from it without external bootmanager[18:27:01] <miqlas> then /dev/sda[18:27:15] <expensivelesbian> I'll be booting via grub[18:27:33] <miqlas> then You can use Your command.[18:28:25] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[18:29:33] <helf|laptop> keep having weird glitches in ubuntu :P[18:30:57] <miqlas> expensivelesbian: , if You dd'ed the image, You can use the "sudo sync" command.[18:34:18] <expensivelesbian> cool it doesn't compile[18:35:08] <expensivelesbian> and compiling is out of my league currently. I'll just wait for the CD ISO download. or Alpha1. 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BFS partitions don't get the content type shown, so[19:32:49] <CIA-15> that it looks more like the reason why they are disabled if the content[19:32:50] <CIA-15> type is shown.[19:32:54] <CIA-15> * Small cleanups.[19:34:32] *** nibble has joined #haiku[19:38:13] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[19:41:21] *** cherrypai has quit IRC[19:41:49] *** oco has quit IRC[19:42:12] <CIA-15> stippi * r30612 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/ (InstallerWindow.cpp InstallerWindow.h):[19:42:12] <CIA-15> If no suitable partitions have been found, encourage the user to use the[19:42:12] <CIA-15> Setup Partitions button...[19:43:47] *** leszek has joined #haiku[19:44:04] <leszek> hi[19:44:25] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[19:44:28] <stpere> hi leszek[19:44:40] *** mmlr is now known as mmlr_eating[19:51:12] <CIA-15> stippi * r30613 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/installer/InstallerWindow.cpp:[19:51:12] <CIA-15> Tweak the "install done" message. If Deskbar is running, chances are quitting[19:51:12] <CIA-15> the Installer won't restart the computer.[19:53:16] *** atomozero has quit IRC[19:53:44] <CIA-15> axeld * r30614 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/bfs/Debug.cpp:[19:53:44] <CIA-15> * Replaced the Print() macro with a direct call to kprintf().[19:53:44] <CIA-15> * Before, it would incorrectly resolve to the __out() macro which was defined[19:53:44] <CIA-15> as dprintf() when compiled for the kernel -- this could deadlock KDL, though.[19:57:02] *** sprma has joined #haiku[20:03:13] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:05:38] *** [1]umccullough_l has joined #haiku[20:06:07] *** umccullough_lap has quit IRC[20:06:08] *** [1]umccullough_l is now known as umccullough_lap[20:06:37] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[20:09:51] *** stpere_zilla has joined #haiku[20:13:14] *** stpere_zilla has quit IRC[20:18:42] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[20:20:14] *** megaf has quit IRC[20:22:29] *** megaf has joined #Haiku[20:28:41] <expensivelesbian> hmm, ok, makebootable might have worked. Gonna reboot...[20:28:48] <expensivelesbian> chocs away[20:28:51] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[20:37:36] <helf|laptop> back[20:42:04] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[20:49:32] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[20:50:06] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[20:50:11] *** glootech has quit IRC[20:50:24] <expensivelesbian> cool beans. It works[20:50:38] <expensivelesbian> my NIC isn't supported however, so I'm back in Linux[20:50:51] *** Thom_Holwerda has left #haiku[20:51:08] <expensivelesbian> spotted a few nasty bugs for the brief time I was using Haiku. I'll see if they've been reported elsewhere[20:54:24] *** nibble has quit IRC[20:54:57] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[20:59:24] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[20:59:24] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[20:59:34] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[21:08:11] <expensivelesbian> actually, how silly, I just remembered, I'm on wireless. the NIC probably *is* supported, the wireless isn't. Well, one to explore[21:08:15] *** atomozero has quit IRC[21:10:50] *** glootech has joined #haiku[21:16:36] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[21:17:35] *** Disreali has quit IRC[21:28:35] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[21:34:42] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:37:33] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[21:46:45] <leszek> gn8[21:46:57] *** leszek has quit IRC[21:47:16] <ntaylor> Hey Haiku types, would you be able to tell me what version of bison you call compile gcc 2.9x with?[21:47:43] <mmadia> i'd check ports.haiku-files.org[21:47:46] <ntaylor> 2.4.1 on my Intel Mac fails to parse c-parse.y[21:47:51] *** evdubs has quit IRC[21:49:13] <ntaylor> interesting, 2.4.1 is also in haikuPorts[21:49:19] <ntaylor> hrm hrm.[21:52:43] <ntaylor> g[21:53:07] <ntaylor> Googling suggests that bison complaining "c-parse.y:1347.19-20: $$ for the midrule at $4 of `structsp' has no declared type" is an atypical build problem?[21:53:29] <ntaylor> or, should I just bite the bullet and compile with gcc4?[21:53:40] <mmadia> no idea actually.[21:54:08] <ntaylor> okay, I'll fiddle some more.[21:54:11] <ntaylor> thanks.[21:56:38] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[21:56:46] *** oco has joined #haiku[21:57:37] *** MrSunshine__ has quit IRC[21:58:02] *** MrSunshine__ has joined #haiku[22:02:09] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[22:03:06] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[22:09:07] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[22:10:53] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[22:11:18] *** MrSunshine_ has quit IRC[22:13:59] *** mmlr_eating has quit IRC[22:15:22] *** andguent has quit IRC[22:15:35] *** petterhj has quit IRC[22:17:33] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[22:18:10] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[22:19:49] *** geist is now known as geist_[22:20:03] *** geist_ is now known as geist[22:20:45] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:22:53] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:24:08] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30615 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/audio/ (11 files):[22:24:08] <CIA-15> MediaPlayer is set as the Preferred Application of the audio supertype. The[22:24:08] <CIA-15> subtype inherits the Preferred Application setting of its supertype and need not[22:24:08] <CIA-15> set a preferred application, unless another application is truly preferred. E.g.[22:24:08] <CIA-15> the MidiPlayer for midi files.[22:25:44] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[22:26:29] *** mmadia has quit IRC[22:27:25] <CIA-15> axeld * r30616 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/bfs/BPlusTree.cpp:[22:27:25] <CIA-15> * Fixed two bugs in BPlusTree::Remove(): it could update the tree iterators[22:27:25] <CIA-15> incorrectly in case of duplicates. And also, more importantly, it did not[22:27:25] <CIA-15> check if the entry to remove had the same value -- it would happily remove[22:27:25] <CIA-15> any entry with the same attribute content. This could only happen in the[22:27:25] <CIA-15> reindex case, though, and was the cause of bug #3854.[22:27:29] <CIA-15> * Minor cleanup.[22:31:25] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30617 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/video/ (mp4 mpeg quicktime x-matroska x-ms-asf x-msvideo): Subtypes inherit the Preferred Application setting of their supertype and need not set one unless they want or need a separate one.[22:31:28] <geist> amazing how long it takes to really tighten up a btree implementation[22:31:32] <geist> you can work on those for years[22:31:48] <geist> dbg actually skipped a lot of that and used a prexisting open source b+tree in the original bfs driver[22:31:58] <mmadia42> dbg?[22:32:04] <kirilla> dominic[22:32:07] <kirilla> giampaolo[22:32:08] <mmadia42> ah[22:32:10] <kirilla> aka dbg[22:32:24] <kirilla> gotta love that photo :))[22:32:25] <geist> he had to munge it a bit to work in the driver, but it was mostly already stable[22:33:32] <HeTo> doesn't Haiku use the same/some other ready b+tree implementation then?[22:33:45] <geist> no, i think axeld wrote it himself[22:36:29] *** andguent has joined #haiku[22:44:27] *** MainRo has quit IRC[22:46:22] *** brunobratwurst has joined #haiku[22:46:43] <brunobratwurst> hello all[22:47:01] <stpere> hi brunobratwurst[22:47:35] <brunobratwurst> I have a problem with the Intel HD Sound driver, at least I think it is this driver who prevents the usb-server to work.[22:48:02] <brunobratwurst> how to disable this driver?[22:49:25] <brunobratwurst> is it the "hda" driver in boot/system/driver/bin/ folder[22:49:31] <brunobratwurst> ?[22:49:57] *** redblue has joined #haiku[22:50:13] <brunobratwurst> Is ther a way to get more accurate driver info?[22:51:17] <brunobratwurst> I tried to install the OSS Sound driver but no change..[22:51:48] <brunobratwurst> how to disable the oss driver since there is no reason to keep it any longer...[22:52:02] <brunobratwurst> do I have to remove the files manually?[22:53:38] <umccullough> do not install oss and hda at the same time[22:53:41] <umccullough> you will hate yourself[22:54:13] <helf|laptop> hm[22:54:19] <helf|laptop> is the svn server not working?[22:54:43] <mmadia42> use http://[22:54:45] <helf|laptop> oh[22:54:48] <umccullough> woring for me[22:54:50] <umccullough> working[22:54:52] <umccullough> svn:// works too[22:55:01] <mmadia42> hrmm... what' sthe url you're using helf|laptop ?[22:55:34] <helf|laptop> the one on the site[22:55:39] <helf|laptop> working with sv://[22:55:40] <mmadia42> which site?[22:55:41] <helf|laptop> *svn[22:55:41] <umccullough> which///[22:55:45] <mmadia42> svn://svn.berlios.de/haiku/haiku/trunk[22:55:48] <umccullough> there are like 20 different ones on the site :)[22:55:51] <helf|laptop> svn checkout http://svn.berlios.de/haiku/haiku/trunk haiku[22:55:52] <helf|laptop> heh[22:55:59] <umccullough> worksforme[22:56:09] <helf|laptop> was giving me some 405 error[22:56:13] <umccullough> perhaps you're behind a firewall that doesn't allow non-http[22:56:16] <helf|laptop> but changing it to svn:// is working[22:56:21] <umccullough> oh yeah[22:56:26] <umccullough> that http:// path is absolutely wrong[22:56:40] <umccullough> should have been http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/haiku/trunk[22:56:45] <helf|laptop> decided id give it a try[22:56:54] <umccullough> svn:// uses the simpler path[22:56:58] <helf|laptop> oh[22:56:59] <umccullough> which page did you see that on?[22:57:03] <umccullough> we need to fix it[22:57:06] <helf|laptop> may want to get them to fix the site :)[22:57:08] <umccullough> probably the node/163 page?[22:57:17] <umccullough> helf|laptop, that's basically me[22:57:19] <helf|laptop> http://www.haiku-os.org/node/163[22:57:21] <helf|laptop> yeah[22:57:22] <umccullough> "them" == "me"[22:57:24] <helf|laptop> :P[22:57:25] *** brunobratwurst has quit IRC[22:57:41] <helf|laptop> haiku runs in virtualbox, right?[22:57:51] <umccullough> i just needed someone to remind me to fix that page[22:59:40] <aurynn> haiku runs in vbox here.[22:59:45] <helf|laptop> cool[22:59:53] <helf|laptop> ive never tried compiling it or anything before :P[23:00:21] <BePhantom> yes, haiku runs in virtualbox from what i remember :D[23:00:43] * helf|laptop twiddles thumbs while svn runs[23:00:49] <helf|laptop> how long does the initial checkout take? :[23:00:50] <helf|laptop> :P[23:00:57] <umccullough> how fast is your connection?[23:01:17] <helf|laptop> 8mbit[23:01:25] <umccullough> shouldn't take too long then...maybe 15-30 mins[23:01:31] <umccullough> or less[23:01:36] <helf|laptop> cool[23:01:45] <umccullough> depends on how the traffic between you and Germany is ;)[23:01:54] <geist> heh, i'm currently dragging berlios down, doing a git svn fetch of the buildtools dir[23:02:21] <geist> though it seems reasonably quick still[23:02:28] <umccullough> cool, maybe i'll do it too and we can really slow helf|laptop down[23:02:39] <geist> woot[23:02:49] * helf|laptop smacks umccullough[23:02:56] <geist> step1 of any decent svn repository is to immediately import it into git[23:03:05] <geist> oooh, berlios hosts git now[23:03:13] <umccullough> you can only do that with decent repos?[23:03:16] <umccullough> aw...[23:03:29] <BePhantom> yesterday i saw High School Musical 3 and I thought it sounds a lot like Haiku Musical :D[23:03:35] <geist> does perl run on haiku yet?[23:03:41] <umccullough> um[23:03:47] <umccullough> for > 1 year at least :)[23:03:53] <umccullough> haiku does build itself, afterall[23:03:56] <umccullough> which requires perl ;)[23:03:57] <geist> good, cause git is about half written in perl[23:04:06] <umccullough> yeah, there's a git package for haiku[23:04:07] <umccullough> but it sucks[23:04:19] <geist> what's wrong with the package?[23:04:20] <umccullough> missing some pieces too[23:04:25] <geist> ah[23:04:37] <geist> it should be somewhat faster on haiku, since it doesn't generate a ton of files like svn does[23:04:38] <umccullough> http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/23/2062382/packages/git-1.6.0-rc2-2008-08-08.zip[23:04:42] <geist> it's a lot more efficient with files[23:04:52] <umccullough> i also think it was zipped from /[23:04:55] <umccullough> instead of from /boot[23:05:21] <umccullough> probably needs to be refreshed - maybe i'll compile a newer version soon[23:05:30] <geist> i think it's pretty easy[23:05:39] <geist> just some C + a bunch of perl front ends[23:05:56] <umccullough> http://ports.haiku-files.org/wiki/dev-util/git[23:06:27] <helf|laptop> that was fast[23:06:32] <umccullough> done?[23:06:35] <helf|laptop> yeah[23:06:42] <umccullough> now you need the buildtools eh?[23:06:43] <umccullough> :)[23:06:53] * helf|laptop goes and checks the site[23:07:08] <umccullough> i fixed the paths, btw[23:07:19] * BePhantom is drinking mate[23:07:32] <umccullough> helf|laptop, what OS are you on?[23:07:53] <helf|laptop> ubuntu 9.04[23:07:58] <umccullough> oh, you're reading the wrong page then[23:08:01] <umccullough> did you see at the top?[23:08:10] <umccullough> "Please note this document mainly pertains to building Haiku under BeOS R5 and later."[23:08:22] <helf|laptop> oh crap[23:08:23] <helf|laptop> :P[23:08:29] <umccullough> the page you want is: http://www.haiku-os.org/node/1781[23:08:39] <umccullough> but at least, getting the source is the sameish[23:08:59] <helf|laptop> i saw "extra to /boot ..." right before you said that and figured something was up :P[23:09:36] <helf|laptop> *extract[23:09:41] <helf|laptop> storming pretty hard here[23:17:25] <BePhantom> stpere, you here?[23:18:27] <stpere> yup[23:20:44] <BePhantom> hi stpere :)[23:20:54] <stpere> hi :)[23:21:30] <BePhantom> just wanted to ask you if there are a any news as regards the release plan[23:21:36] <BePhantom> sorry to bother you :)[23:21:42] * JonathanThompson poits helf|laptop[23:22:10] <stpere> heh, I admit this has been low priority for me last week[23:22:31] <stpere> next week, tho, I will study some topics[23:22:35] <stpere> to keep the momentum[23:22:54] <BePhantom> oh ok, nothing new then :) or worth telling at least :D[23:24:55] * BePhantom is doing laundry[23:26:14] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30618 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/application/x-vnd.be-bookmark: (log message trimmed)[23:26:14] <CIA-15> Making urlwrapper the preferred application of NetPositive Bookmarks. They will[23:26:14] <CIA-15> be with us for some time - many application zip files include them - but[23:26:14] <CIA-15> NetPositive itself can't make it into Haiku. It's wrong to have a non-present[23:26:14] <CIA-15> application set as preferred. Sadly, changing this filetype's setting means[23:26:17] <CIA-15> little in practice, as the preferred application -attribute- is set on every[23:26:19] <CIA-15> bookmark file. Two solutions exist to make bookmarks work[23:30:22] <geist> geez, we have this troll on #osdev that has so much time on his hands he comes in as 3 or 4 different nicks at any time and holes conversations with himself for hours[23:30:29] <geist> even eventually worked his way up to op status[23:30:41] <geist> as one of the 3 or 4 ops that were aggressively kicking himself[23:30:47] <geist> like, geez man get a life[23:31:19] <stpere> lol[23:33:38] <geist> i was kind of hoping he'd just nuke the entire channel when he got to ops and save all of us the trouble of continuning the farce[23:33:46] <BePhantom> ops are usually jerks (sorry geist), most of them dont even know how to moderate a channel[23:33:49] <geist> but of course that'd kill his stage, so of course he doesn't[23:33:58] <geist> we usually are completely quiet on #osdev[23:34:11] <geist> it was only this recent attack by him that we even started using it[23:34:18] <umccullough> heh[23:34:21] <umccullough> what a doofus[23:34:26] <geist> the usual attack is to join and immmediately spam it with tons of stuff[23:34:35] <geist> until we kick him.. turns out he was kicking himself most of the time[23:34:53] <umccullough> making himself look more important?[23:35:37] <geist> yep[23:35:42] <geist> been going on for weeks now[23:35:44] *** glootech is now known as kapty[23:35:51] *** kapty is now known as glootech[23:35:53] <umccullough> btw, we did create a #haiku-dev a while back due to the traffic we were getting here from /. and the like[23:35:54] <geist> he finally got tired of it for some reason and uncovered himself[23:36:05] <BePhantom> geist, you should invite him here :D[23:36:11] * umccullough kicks BePhantom[23:36:29] <umccullough> if he really cared, he'd probably already be here :P[23:36:32] *** glootech is now known as kapty[23:36:41] <BePhantom> umccullough, lol we already have maggiemay (or something) biggest spambot this channel ever had[23:36:56] *** kapty is now known as Aidenn|E51[23:37:14] <mmadia42> #vista[23:37:19] <umccullough> D:[23:37:23] <mmadia42> #someOtherRandomIRCChannel[23:37:27] <geist> BePhantom: to be honest i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't already here. i half expected it to spill over to here, since he was going after other people's other channels too[23:37:41] <geist> but i set +i on my nick so in theory he can't tell[23:37:59] <umccullough> ah, yeah that's nice :)[23:38:07] <BePhantom> lets witch hunt :)[23:38:10] *** Aidenn|E51 is now known as skx`[23:38:22] * mmadia42 throws BePhantom in the lake to see if he floats[23:38:28] *** skx` is now known as glutek[23:38:40] <kirilla> someone around here surely is going banans[23:38:46] <BePhantom> lol[23:39:09] *** glutek is now known as glootech[23:39:37] <umccullough> sometimes i wonder if people forget they're idling in another channel as well ;)[23:39:49] <geist> yah[23:40:07] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[23:40:13] <stpere> mmadia42: but would a duck..[23:40:19] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:40:33] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:40:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:41:09] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[23:41:35] <umccullough> picked up another freebie computer yesterday :P[23:41:42] <umccullough> 'bout right for my kids... :)[23:41:49] <stpere> umccullough: nice[23:41:56] <umccullough> stpere, not really[23:41:59] <stpere> lol[23:42:00] *** procton has quit IRC[23:42:02] <umccullough> it's an old Dell PIII 800[23:42:14] *** procton has joined #haiku[23:42:17] <stpere> oh, well, it's not a bad Haiku machine[23:42:33] <umccullough> installing debian now, haiku shortly, just to see how it runs[23:43:07] <kirilla> I tried Haiku on vesa today - playing mp3 wasn't fun when moving windows around.[23:43:13] <umccullough> heh[23:43:19] <umccullough> with mediaplayer i assume?[23:43:25] <kirilla> on a 2GHz celeron, so it should have been okay[23:43:28] <umccullough> cuz vlc seems to play them much better[23:43:36] <kirilla> aye, MediaPlayer[23:43:54] <umccullough> our media kit seems to be a bit weak still[23:44:17] <kirilla> didn't seem to eat that much CPU.. moving windows though, through the roof[23:44:33] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[23:44:33] <umccullough> yeah, check the priority on those mediaplayer threads[23:45:00] <umccullough> doesn't help that the scheduler is dumb still[23:47:05] <umccullough> damnit[23:47:23] <umccullough> i hate when i mix up some epoxy and don't use a 1:1 ratio of hardener to resin[23:47:36] <umccullough> and it takes forever to set :P[23:47:47] <umccullough> or worse...never sets :([23:48:38] <kirilla> Interesting.. doing a query on "" (nothing) the results loading takes forever[23:48:42] <Disreali> yay! trac is working[23:48:44] *** [1]umccullough_l has joined #haiku[23:48:55] <umccullough> eh?[23:48:55] <kirilla> and more CPU time is spent in the app_server than in Tracker !![23:49:05] <geist> so building everything on a 64bit linux with the --use-32bit is known to work?[23:49:05] * umccullough looks hard at [1]umccullough_l[23:49:14] <geist> provided you build with gcc4, right?[23:49:43] <umccullough> i guess so :)[23:49:49] <mmadia42> geist linux32 will horribly destroy the x86_64 detection.[23:49:54] <umccullough> it checks uname now and sets the 32bit flag when you configure[23:50:03] <umccullough> yeah, don't use linux32 :P[23:50:04] <mmadia42> i've been meaning to push a patch to dev.haiku-os.org to remove it.[23:50:32] <BePhantom> how's the wifi stack going? i lost track of the development when haikuware was redesigned[23:51:04] <helf|laptop> ew, celerons[23:51:11] *** [2]umccullough_l has joined #haiku[23:51:20] <helf|laptop> 2ghz... 128kb at a time![23:51:37] *** umccullough_lap has quit IRC[23:51:40] *** [2]umccullough_l is now known as umccullough_lap[23:52:04] <kirilla> helf|laptop: that celeron is actually totally snappy with BeOS, and totally silent, as opposed to "real" P4s[23:52:19] <helf|laptop> :P[23:52:29] <helf|laptop> i guess beos makes better use of it than windows/lunix would[23:52:51] <helf|laptop> my bros pc was a 1.7 cel before i upgraded it and it was dog slow[23:53:06] <umccullough> my laptop is a celeron 2ghz[23:53:12] <geist> okay, so the --use-32bit thing wont work. what does work then?[23:53:20] <umccullough> geist, what's the problem now?[23:53:28] <geist> trying to build haiku on a 64bit linux box[23:53:38] <umccullough> you got the multilibs and stuff?[23:53:42] <geist> yep[23:54:20] <umccullough> and your generated/build/BuildConfig shows HAIKU_HOST_USE_32BIT = 1 ?[23:54:29] <geist> still building the toolchain[23:54:31] <kirilla> helf|laptop: I admitt decoding mkv (HD?) never worked[23:54:32] <umccullough> oh[23:54:42] <geist> that's what triggered it, i reimported buildtools as git, so i have to rebuild the toolchain[23:54:49] <umccullough> yeah[23:54:51] <geist> i had previously built it when my linux box was 32bit only[23:55:03] <umccullough> the --use-32bit thing works, but the flag is set now automatically if uname shows you're on a 64bit linux host[23:55:16] <geist> except it's horribly broken...[23:55:18] <umccullough> during the ./configure --build...[23:55:20] <umccullough> oh[23:55:29] <AnEvilYak> umccullough: yeah, except it gets confused by linux32 apparently[23:55:33] <umccullough> right[23:55:37] <umccullough> just don't use it under linux32[23:55:47] <umccullough> which should be fine unless you need to use gcc2 :/[23:56:03] <AnEvilYak> somehow I'm doubting geist cares about gcc2 :)[23:56:09] <umccullough> ditto :)[23:56:09] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[23:56:17] <geist> indeed[23:56:53] <AnEvilYak> especially since I'm guessing you're mainly doing this 'cause of the ARM port :)[23:56:58] <AnEvilYak> in which case gcc2 means jack[23:57:01] <umccullough> oooh[23:57:03] <umccullough> :)[23:57:16] *** MrSunshine___ has joined #haiku[23:57:28] <geist> yeah, that and i haven't run it in 6 months or so[23:57:37] <umccullough> geist, besides the beagleboard itself, what other bits are most useful for working with them[23:57:37] <AnEvilYak> ah[23:57:50] <geist> the new gumstix should be great[23:57:51] <umccullough> hardware wise[23:57:55] <geist> same cpu but it actually has ethernet[23:58:12] *** MrSunshine__ has quit IRC[23:58:54] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[23:59:40] <AnEvilYak> hm, who wrote our iso9660 add-on?