May 2, 2009 
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May 2, 2009 [00:02:27] <mmu_man> dr_evil if you have the IP you can add it to /etc/hosts[00:02:58] <kokito> hey, if the job is done, I would not mind :)[00:03:00] <dr_evil> I'm NOT looking for a workaround[00:04:31] <dr_evil> ok, the issue is, we no longer have /etc/resolv.conf path[00:09:04] *** nibble has quit IRC[00:10:18] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[00:10:45] <dr_evil> actually, we do have it in form of a symling[00:10:52] <dr_evil> but its now working[00:13:13] <dr_evil> the network config writes /etc/resolv.conf successfully. but DNS not working[00:13:28] <scanty> does haiku have a driver for nvidia cards?[00:14:00] <mmu_man> yes[00:14:10] <helf|laptop> has had iirc :)[00:14:13] <scanty> do you know if QuadroFX 370 is supported?[00:15:09] <scanty> hey helf|laptop ![00:16:00] <helf|laptop> :)[00:16:02] <helf|laptop> hi[00:16:05] <kokito> cu guys![00:16:16] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[00:16:20] *** kokito has left #haiku[00:16:33] <scanty> I want to install haiku to a native partition, but i'm not sure if my video card and resolution are supported.[00:17:09] <geist> if one of the nnvidia cards aren't going to work, it'll probably be the quadras[00:17:15] <helf|laptop> scanty, if its not, vesa works[00:17:18] <scanty> great.[00:17:29] <mmadia> and our vesa mode is teh shiznit[00:17:36] <helf|laptop> its FAAAAAAST[00:17:39] <luroh> yup, vesa is generally very fast on haiku[00:17:41] <helf|laptop> like a vw bug[00:17:55] <scanty> does VESA offer 1680x1050?[00:18:00] <aldeck> scanty, you could test booting from an usb flash drive[00:18:11] <aldeck> yep 1680x1050 here[00:18:17] <aldeck> vesa on a 8800gts[00:18:23] <scanty> aldeck, yes, mmadia told me that yesterday, i think i might try it[00:18:52] <aldeck> http://www.haiku-os.org/documents/user/how_to_get_haiku_booted[00:19:00] <scanty> is overlay supported in VESA?[00:19:06] <mmu_man> no[00:19:17] <scanty> how about BDirectWindow?[00:19:23] <aldeck> yes[00:19:37] <scanty> ok, that's a start....... I want to port my NES emulator.[00:19:47] <aldeck> nice :)[00:19:51] <mmadia> w00t[00:19:54] <stpere> :D[00:20:15] <scanty> all the code is ready, i just need to write a new makefile and it should be fine[00:20:22] <scanty> will try it this weekend for sure[00:20:29] <aldeck> go for it!![00:20:41] <scanty> I'm asking all these questions so i can waste as little time as possible[00:21:02] <scanty> everybody here has been really helpful :)[00:21:13] <mmadia> that's the goal :)[00:21:14] <stpere> we should make a adopt a dev program :)[00:21:40] <stpere> hehe, that's silly[00:21:41] <mmadia> for the price of a cup of coffee, you can supply the caffeine to another dev :P[00:21:46] <stpere> lol[00:22:07] <scanty> me votes for alcohol instead ^_^[00:22:19] <aldeck> when you're finished[00:22:28] *** vision has joined #haiku[00:22:41] *** vision is now known as liberhaiku[00:22:45] <mmadia> or work on autotools based software.[00:22:52] <aldeck> haha :)[00:22:55] <scanty> autotools are evil[00:22:58] <aldeck> not the first time i hear that[00:23:40] <scanty> is nasm ok under haiku, or only yasm?[00:24:07] <mmadia> iirc just yasm.[00:24:16] <liberhaiku> Hi :)[00:24:18] *** Fainto has quit IRC[00:24:18] <scanty> hopefully that won't be a problem[00:24:24] <stpere> but it's my understanding yasm can work just as nasm[00:24:28] <scanty> i have some nasm-based biltters for my emulator.[00:24:28] <stpere> or should[00:24:40] <stpere> am I right?[00:24:49] <aldeck> dunno[00:24:52] <scanty> the overlay blitter is in inline asm though[00:24:55] <aldeck> hi liberhaiku![00:24:58] <scanty> but VESA doesn't offer me overlay anyay[00:25:00] <scanty> anyway*[00:26:42] <liberhaiku> It's pretty cool I actually have internet connection under Haiku, a web browser and an IRC client.. that about covers like 25% of my life :D[00:27:04] <scanty> e1000 is supported in haiku right?[00:27:08] <aldeck> liberhaiku: what's missing then? :)[00:27:20] <aldeck> scanty: yes[00:27:30] <scanty> cool[00:27:32] *** oxocoffee has joined #haiku[00:27:40] <scanty> i think most of my hardware is supported then[00:27:48] <dr_evil> after 20 minutes, USB doesn't work anymore[00:28:28] <scanty> only thing not supported is my video card so far.[00:28:39] <scanty> not sure about sound, hopefullly it works, at least under OSSS[00:28:41] <scanty> OSS*[00:29:01] <aldeck> scanty, what sound chipset?[00:29:08] <scanty> hold on let me check[00:29:27] <scanty> realtek alc888[00:29:40] <scanty> linux reports either that or intel[00:29:44] <liberhaiku> aldec, well, lots probably, for one it's clearly not as stable or featureful as Linux :P I'm considering installing it on HD somehow though..[00:29:51] <liberhaiku> Can it read ext3 partitions?[00:30:00] <aldeck> yes[00:30:21] <liberhaiku> I wonder if it'd support my real hardware (this is in vbox now..)[00:31:14] <aldeck> try booting it from an usb flash drive, best way to find out :)[00:31:16] <scanty> are there gcc4 vmware images available anyplace?[00:31:24] <liberhaiku> oh[00:31:28] <aldeck> yes, just discovered that today[00:31:32] <mmadia> scanty : yes, haiku-files.org[00:31:48] <mmadia> i PM'd you the link when i found out a day or three ago[00:32:00] <scanty> mmadia, yeah you pm'ed me the raw images.[00:32:02] <scanty> found the gcc4 image[00:32:03] <scanty> thanks[00:32:04] <scanty> ![00:32:32] <scanty> ah 2.4MB/sec[00:32:33] <scanty> :)[00:32:44] <scanty> too bad all websites aren't this fast![00:32:44] <aldeck> scanty, note that those images are not officialy supported though[00:32:53] <scanty> ah[00:33:16] <aldeck> you might have some problems specific to the gcc4 build[00:33:28] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:33:30] <scanty> i know...... i need gcc4 for my NES emulator though[00:33:35] <scanty> sicne it's using boost libs[00:33:54] <aldeck> ok[00:34:22] <scanty> the last gcc4 image i tried crashed on make in VirtualBox[00:34:40] <aldeck> ah, that might be due to wbox though[00:34:43] <aldeck> vbox[00:34:47] <scanty> yeah it was[00:34:50] <scanty> triple fault in the recompiler[00:36:49] <aldeck> liberhaiku: check that guide for usb booting: http://www.haiku-os.org/documents/user/how_to_get_haiku_booted[00:36:53] <scanty> boots so far.[00:37:00] <scanty> let's see what happens when I do a make[00:38:48] <scanty> froze on wget.[00:38:48] <scanty> hmmm[00:39:06] <mmadia> yay for vbox![00:39:55] <libervisco> aldeck, I don't have an usb stick here, I'll try a full install, I can make a spare partition on my second drive :)[00:40:23] <libervisco> Would following this be fine? http://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/installing_haiku_to_a_partition_from_linux[00:40:36] <scanty> ok let's see if make crashes....[00:41:06] <scanty> yup[00:41:24] <aldeck> libervisco: building from source on linux?[00:41:40] <scanty> i guess i will have to try a native build[00:41:43] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[00:42:05] <libervisco> aldeck, well the idea is to install haiku on a real partition, if it's possible without building even better..[00:42:08] <aldeck> yeah scanty, stop messing with vbox :) try the real thing[00:42:15] <scanty> hehe okay[00:42:22] <scanty> i will try and install it to a usb drive later on[00:42:50] <aldeck> libervisco, then the easiest is running the installer from a usb key[00:43:23] <libervisco> hmm, ok maybe I could borrow it from my sister.. (lost my key :S)[00:43:25] <aldeck> but building isn't hard at all, nor time consuming if you got some descent hardware[00:43:39] <aldeck> *decent[00:43:48] <libervisco> oh.. well it is decent, Core2Duo E6320 and 3.5GB RAM..[00:44:07] <aldeck> pretty good[00:45:14] <mmadia> no, that's not good hardware. you need to dispose of it properly. my mailing address is ..... ;)[00:47:29] <aldeck> mmadia, got a link handy of the build guide from svn? it's the best imo, covers build profiles[00:47:36] *** glootech has joined #haiku[00:47:41] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:47:59] <libervisco> lol[00:49:04] <mmadia> http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/[00:50:22] <aldeck> http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/*checkout*/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installation/install-source-linux.html[00:51:06] <mmadia> http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installation/[00:51:20] <aldeck> ah you link is intersting never seen it that way[00:51:22] <mmadia> Browse HTTP is much faster :)[00:51:39] <aldeck> ah, i get it now[00:51:47] <mmadia> from here : http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=2556[00:52:42] <aldeck> ahhh, didn't notice there were different way of web browsing the repo[00:54:39] <dr_evil> syslog says: "usb uhci: host controller halted" and then mouse and keyboard cease working[00:55:00] <mmadia> dr_evil : could it be some sort of interrupt handling issue?[00:56:59] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[00:57:05] <dr_evil> don't know[00:57:39] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:57:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[00:59:35] <zaunpfahl> VESA @1680x1050 works? not here, doesn't show up in screen prefs, 945GT chipset :([01:00:03] <mmadia> this is the closest ticket i can think of, dr_evil : http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/3632[01:01:24] <aldeck> zaunpfahl: ah no luck then, you can see what your video bios reported in /var/log/syslog[01:01:59] <zaunpfahl> thanks, i'll take a look![01:02:11] <dr_evil> thats the error http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2481[01:02:38] <zaunpfahl> doesn't show up in linux either[01:02:47] <zaunpfahl> but can set with xrandr[01:03:00] <zaunpfahl> then it shows up in GNOME preflet[01:04:31] <aldeck> zaunpfahl, is this on a laptop?[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> xrandr -q[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1680[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> LVDS connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> 1024x768 60.0 + 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0[01:04:37] <zaunpfahl> 832x624 74.6[01:04:40] <zaunpfahl> 800x600 85.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2[01:04:41] <zaunpfahl> 640x480 85.0 72.8 75.0 59.9[01:04:43] <zaunpfahl> 720x400 85.0[01:04:45] <zaunpfahl> 640x400 85.1[01:04:47] <zaunpfahl> 640x350 85.1[01:04:50] <zaunpfahl> TMDS-1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 474mm x 296mm[01:04:51] <zaunpfahl> 1680x1050 59.9*+ 60.0[01:04:53] <zaunpfahl> 1280x1024 75.0 60.0[01:04:55] <zaunpfahl> 1440x900 59.9[01:04:57] <zaunpfahl> 1280x960 60.0[01:04:59] <zaunpfahl> 1152x864 75.0[01:05:01] <zaunpfahl> 1024x768 75.0 60.0[01:05:03] <zaunpfahl> 832x624 74.6[01:05:05] <zaunpfahl> 800x600 75.0 60.3 56.2[01:05:08] <zaunpfahl> 640x480 75.0 59.9[01:05:09] <zaunpfahl> 720x400 70.1[01:05:12] <zaunpfahl> TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)[01:05:14] <zaunpfahl> MoDT Desktop Abit il-90mv[01:05:39] <mmadia> zaunpfahl : by the way, there's http;//haiku.pastebin.com[01:05:54] <mmadia> please remember that next time before you paste ~20lines.[01:06:03] <zaunpfahl> sorrry...[01:07:35] <mmadia> live and learn :D[01:09:51] *** mmu_man changes topic to "Haiku: http://haiku-os.org | Tech Talk: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=236331448076587879 | IRC logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?haiku | Commits: http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenBeOS | Source search: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/ | http://haiku.ircboard.com/ | http://haiku.pastebin.com/"[01:10:16] <zaunpfahl> can i force a resolution xrandr style?[01:13:03] <helf|laptop> hey MindChild[01:13:11] <pyCube> hi[01:13:46] <zaunpfahl> guess haiku doesn't figure the custom HDMI chip on my mobo[01:14:07] <aurynn> are you surprisd by this?[01:14:23] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[01:14:42] <zaunpfahl> me? no![01:15:02] <mmu_man> if custom = proprietary without specs, likely yes :p[01:15:52] <helf|laptop> heh[01:16:02] <zaunpfahl> it's a HDMI to DVI cable[01:17:21] <zaunpfahl> probably haiku can[01:17:29] <zaunpfahl> 't do TMDS:[01:17:36] <zaunpfahl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_Minimized_Differential_Signaling[01:18:57] <aldeck> hdmi->dvi or dvi shouldn't make a difference, it's just a different connector afaik[01:19:13] <aldeck> hdmi works here[01:19:14] <zaunpfahl> haiku only sees the LVDS resolutions[01:20:15] *** oco has quit IRC[01:20:34] <aldeck> lvds = vga ?[01:20:58] <zaunpfahl> no idea what this stuff all means, frankly[01:21:27] <aldeck> hehe[01:21:29] <aurynn> lvds = low voltage differential signalling. digital video standard before DVI took over[01:21:54] <aurynn> most laptops internally use lvds, some old SGI gear does[01:22:15] <aldeck> ahh, zaunpfahl, is this a laptop?[01:22:22] <pyCube> oh.. i thought lvds was some utah church[01:22:46] <zaunpfahl> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/380[01:23:10] <zaunpfahl> SiliconImage Sil1390 HDMI chip[01:24:46] <aldeck> can't help really, you'll have better luck by filing a detailed ticket on the bugtracker[01:25:30] <zaunpfahl> waiting for the 945g intel extreme drive to be fixed anyway[01:25:44] <zaunpfahl> didn't know VESA could do that resolution[01:25:52] <aldeck> ah ok[01:26:07] <libervisco> hm I got this while getting buildtools svn: OPTIONS of 'http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/buildtools/trunk': could not connect to server (http://svn.berlios.de)[01:27:34] <zaunpfahl> do accelerants do their own mode detection?[01:27:47] <zaunpfahl> or is it the same code as with VESA?[01:28:15] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[01:29:05] <mmadia> iirc accelerants are disabled.[01:29:20] <mmadia> as vesa has actually proven to be faster on most newer hardware.[01:30:06] <zaunpfahl> ATI doesn't have 2D acceleration in current gen, I heard[01:30:17] <zaunpfahl> which it why it blows under XP now[01:30:49] <zaunpfahl> so I guess 2D acceleration is kinda dead now anyway[01:31:32] <luroh> libervisco: hmm, are you behind some proxy perhaps?[01:33:13] <libervisco> luroh, looks like it could have been a glitch, it works again..[01:33:24] <luroh> alrighty[01:41:29] *** koo5 has joined #haiku[01:45:22] *** zaunpfahl has left #haiku[01:46:17] *** xcasex has joined #haiku[01:47:06] *** Fainto has joined #haiku[01:50:48] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[01:51:15] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:02:19] *** aldeck has quit IRC[02:02:27] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[02:07:25] *** mib_gq130q has joined #haiku[02:07:44] *** mib_gq130q has quit IRC[02:07:52] *** jonathanbthompso has joined #Haiku[02:08:10] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[02:08:28] *** jonathanbthompso is now known as JonathanThompson[02:13:17] *** geist_ has joined #haiku[02:14:57] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[02:18:05] <zaunpfahl> what is the matter with Additional Video Mode in syslog?[02:18:11] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[02:18:42] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:18:49] <zaunpfahl> native screen resolution shows up there only[02:18:57] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[02:18:59] <helf|laptop> hi[02:19:02] <helf|laptop> storming :D[02:20:10] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:22:40] <zaunpfahl> KERN: Additional Video Mode:[02:22:49] <zaunpfahl> what is up with that?[02:23:25] <zaunpfahl> only place where native screen res shows[02:24:02] <helf|laptop> playing Clue :D[02:25:48] <luroh> zaunpfahl: you could probably check with tqh, he's been bashing away at that stuff lately[02:26:24] <zaunpfahl> thanks![02:26:36] <zaunpfahl> haiku will kill my seagate[02:26:43] <zaunpfahl> clack di clack[02:26:57] <zaunpfahl> ramp load manic[02:28:09] <zaunpfahl> can't set hd power management in haiku?[02:30:51] <CIA-15> mmadia * r290 /haikuports/trunk/www-client/mozilla-firefox/greyMenuSelection.patch: Seems this patch fell through the cracks. It replaces the hideous blue menu selected color with our standard grey.[02:33:24] <luroh> zaunpfahl: no such thing available yet, afaik[02:35:30] <zaunpfahl> hmm. at that rate my disk wouldn't last a year[02:35:59] <zaunpfahl> according to SMART stats[02:36:16] <luroh> ouch[02:36:53] <zaunpfahl> maybe USB stick is better option[02:37:27] <luroh> sounds like a good idea[02:37:39] <mmadia> eventually the usb stick will crap out.[02:37:56] <zaunpfahl> how long will it last?[02:37:56] *** redblue has quit IRC[02:37:57] <mmadia> swap file, temp files, syslog,[02:38:09] <zaunpfahl> not doing much in native haiku for now[02:40:48] *** redblue has joined #haiku[02:43:40] *** zaunpfahl has quit IRC[02:51:34] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:51:46] *** Karurosu has joined #haiku[02:51:51] <CIA-15> mmu_man * r30546 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/nfs/nfs_add_on.c: Fix missing NULLs corresponding to io() and cancel_io() hooks which made all other calls shifted... This should fix #3500 and #3832.[02:57:06] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[02:58:08] *** geist has left #haiku[03:06:51] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[03:07:02] <CIA-15> anevilyak * r30547 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/locale/Locale.h: gcc4 build fix.[03:10:22] <CIA-15> mmadia * r291 /haikuports/trunk/www-client/mozilla-firefox/TinnyTim.sh: This script will build and install the dependencies for Mozilla 1.8 branch.[03:12:06] *** Master199 has quit IRC[03:12:13] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[03:28:34] *** Cammy has quit IRC[03:31:05] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[03:35:53] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[03:40:34] *** thebolt|away is now known as thebolt[03:45:18] *** aldeck has quit IRC[03:52:53] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:54:49] <libervisco> hm I'm failing to install Haiku to a partition..[03:54:54] <CIA-15> mmadia * r292 /haikuports/trunk/www-client/mozilla-firefox/TinnyTim.sh: Updated script to automatically download a needed patch.[03:55:22] <libervisco> http://pastebin.com/m6879d817[03:55:51] <mmadia> how are you trying to install it?[03:56:07] <mmadia> ah ,from source.[03:56:28] <libervisco> when running sudo jam -q and having /dev and sdb1 set in build/jam/UserBuildConfig[03:56:42] <libervisco> on Ubuntu 9.04[03:57:38] <mmadia> which revision ? `svn info`[03:58:13] <libervisco> 30547[03:59:32] <mmadia> is this 64bit linux?[03:59:39] <libervisco> maybe I should try this.. http://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/boot_haiku_natively[03:59:40] <libervisco> yes[03:59:42] <mmadia> are you using linux32 to set the enviromnte[03:59:58] <mmadia> no... there's an issue[03:59:59] <libervisco> nope..[04:01:11] *** megaf is now known as pacman[04:01:45] <mmadia> ok... open up build/BuildConfig[04:02:28] <libervisco> you mean build/jam/BuildSetup? There's no build/BuildConfig..[04:02:29] <mmadia> it may be in haiku/generated/build/BuildConfig --- not sure.[04:03:06] <libervisco> yeah, it's there[04:03:17] <mmadia> HAIKU_HOST_USE_32BIT[04:03:23] <mmadia> what's the value of that ?[04:03:45] <libervisco> 1[04:04:42] <libervisco> HAIKU_HOST_USE_32BIT ?= "0" ;[04:04:51] <libervisco> er.. changed to 0[04:05:10] <libervisco> I mean now[04:05:13] <mmadia> try with that.[04:05:27] <mmadia> you may need to use linux32 though.[04:05:45] <libervisco> seems to work so far[04:06:29] <libervisco> ah and still ended with[04:06:30] <libervisco> http://pastebin.com/mf427ace[04:07:07] <libervisco> trying in linux32[04:07:13] <mmadia> keep it ?= "0" and try building from within ... :)[04:07:18] <libervisco> same..[04:07:27] <libervisco> from within?[04:07:33] <mmadia> linux32[04:07:47] <libervisco> just tried, same :S[04:08:17] <libervisco> http://pastebin.com/m7765e60a[04:08:30] <libervisco> skips sdb1[04:08:33] <mmadia> haiku at freelists dot org[04:09:46] <mmadia> can you try jam -aq from within linux32?[04:10:57] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[04:11:00] <mmadia> and set that variable ?= "1"[04:11:03] <libervisco> yeah, it "...skipped 3 target(s)..." again and updated 70[04:11:07] <libervisco> oh[04:12:45] <libervisco> still didn't work.. http://pastebin.com/m34a5828e[04:13:50] <mmadia> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh[04:14:13] <mmadia> send an email to the [haiku] ML[04:15:29] <mmadia> building on linux isn't my strong suit.[04:15:29] <stpere> I like how fixing one thing fixes an other :)[04:24:46] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[04:25:45] <MaggieMay> #charmer[04:26:36] *** pacman is now known as MegafEee[04:27:53] <MaggieMay> is there a list of places that are active tonight[04:27:55] <MaggieMay> thanks[04:28:32] <MaggieMay> #megan[04:30:08] *** MaggieMay has left #haiku[04:30:45] <stpere> meh[04:31:28] <libervisco> ok, sent, fwiw :)[04:31:43] <libervisco> I think I'm gonna try dd and makebootable..[04:34:17] <mmadia> libervisco : your failing to build properly.[04:34:22] <mmadia> at least that's what it looks like[04:35:45] <libervisco> I ran ./configure --use-32bit --build-cross-tools-gcc4 x86 ../buildtools/[04:36:01] <pyCube__> man.. one too many f'ing manhattans (drinks)[04:36:19] * pyCube__ got f'd up in accident[04:36:33] <pyCube__> on too[04:36:57] <mmadia> well.. i'm glad you're at least alive enough to tell us :)[04:36:58] <pyCube__> oh, and by one too many, i mean two[04:37:15] * pyCube__ is a total lightweight when it comes to liquor[04:37:23] <pyCube__> hehe[04:37:44] <mmadia> aah... thought you meant like a car-related accident :P[04:37:45] <libervisco> same here :)[04:37:51] <pyCube__> first one didnt phase me at all.. 2nd one knocked me silly[04:38:41] <pyCube__> mmadia: nah.. i meant i accidentally got liquored hehe[04:39:01] <pyCube__> but not "Jean Puke Liquored"[04:40:09] <pyCube__> good thing my wife picked me up from work today[04:40:19] <pyCube__> or i'd likely be spending the night there.. hehe[04:44:05] <cps1966> i like funny drunks[04:44:28] <pyCube__> heh[04:45:28] <pyCube__> of course as soon as i finished the second drinnk and realized i was hammered, i had to deal with a code emergency.. had to debug and fix some bug[04:45:33] <pyCube__> that was difficult[04:45:57] <pyCube__> took a lot of very scattered focus[04:45:59] <pyCube__> hehe[04:46:56] <cps1966> did you think someone conspired againist you[04:47:25] <pyCube__> no.. heh.. honestly, all i could think was, "man, i am way more f'd up than i expected"[04:47:27] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[04:49:12] <cps1966> who was mixing drinks[04:49:46] <pyCube__> i think it was people in the FX dept[04:50:06] <pyCube__> the whole reason for the liquor was to celebrate the FX dept moving into our hanger[04:50:29] <cps1966> hehe[04:50:55] <cps1966> so they wanted to greese you guys[04:51:18] <pyCube__> i think people just look for 'good' reason to get drunk at work[04:51:22] <pyCube__> reasons[04:51:37] <cps1966> yeah strees relief[04:51:53] <cps1966> stress[04:51:58] <pyCube__> all the good meetings have alcohol[04:52:06] <cps1966> haha[04:52:07] <pyCube__> one way to ensure people show up[04:52:49] <cps1966> bunch of alcohalics[04:52:56] <pyCube__> i got to experience my first sampling of good scotch a few weeks back due to a meeting.. heh[04:53:20] <pyCube__> well, i'd rather alter myself in other ways, but ya know.. laws and all[04:55:05] <pyCube__> but yeah.. meeting invites that end with "...bring a glass" are fun[04:55:36] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[04:55:59] <cps1966> ahh your just a cheap drunk[04:56:38] <mmadia> "cost-effecient"[04:56:44] <cps1966> yup[04:57:22] <cps1966> must be all that thc lingering[04:58:13] <pyCube__> ive just never been into alcohol.. so sampling all this stuff is fun[04:59:10] <cps1966> just avoid jack danials[04:59:11] <pyCube__> still wouldnt bother buying it myself.. hehe[04:59:12] *** plfiorini_ has quit IRC[05:00:14] <pyCube__> i would have never even thought of ordering a manhattan.. but now i know.. hehe[05:01:06] *** wavelet has joined #haiku[05:02:14] <cps1966> maybe they just waved the vermouth bottle over the wiskey[05:03:07] <pyCube__> i dunno..all i know is that i consumed a relatively small amount, it tasted mostly good, and it got me silly[05:03:23] <cps1966> hehe[05:05:57] <pyCube__> the good thing about not drinking much is that when i do, it doesnt take much to get me to the good part of being drunk[05:06:08] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[05:06:17] <pyCube__> then i stop, and dont really have much in the way of hangover[05:07:49] <pyCube__> thats the problem with alcohol... the good buzz doesnt last long at all, so it compels people to drink more.. which sucks in the long run[05:08:31] <cps1966> most drink to get totaled[05:08:46] <pyCube__> and the line between fun and puking to tough to discern[05:09:51] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:10:00] <pyCube__> i just find cannabis to be much more forgiving[05:10:49] <pyCube__> not to mention that state it puts you in is much more productive[05:11:16] <cps1966> i get very funny on it[05:11:41] <cps1966> but love to listen to music[05:12:07] <pyCube__> if i go long periods between joints, like a couple weeks, it gets me WAY crazy.. like back when i first tried it[05:12:55] <pyCube__> yeah.. thats what really turned me on to it.. music and taste[05:13:17] <pyCube__> my first flavor experience while stoned was a piece of dentyne gum[05:13:26] <pyCube__> seriously, it BLEW my mind[05:13:51] <pyCube__> i was confused.. couldnt figure out what kind of gum my friend had given me[05:14:06] <pyCube__> nobody warned me about the flavor enhancing properties[05:14:33] <Hodapp> you've watched the wizard of oz, right? but have you ever watched the wizard of oz... ON WEED?[05:14:48] <cps1966> never really did it without havinf=g a beer or two[05:14:53] <pyCube__> "this is the most amazing gum i have EVER had.. WTF ind of gum is thi?!"[05:15:00] <pyCube__> this[05:15:04] <Hodapp> kind[05:15:07] <pyCube__> hehe[05:15:08] <pyCube__> yeah[05:16:06] <pyCube__> dentyne and the beatles white album.. man.. those where the days[05:16:50] <cps1966> for sure[05:16:51] <pyCube__> i had a tape with abbey road on one side, dsotm on the other.. it got a LOT of play[05:17:05] <pyCube__> very complementary albums[05:17:20] <pyCube__> dsotm first, then abbey road[05:17:40] <pyCube__> after dark side, "here comes the sun..."[05:17:50] <pyCube__> hehe[05:20:14] <pyCube__> that period when i was first smoking, i had so much fun listening to all my favorite music with now found ears.[05:21:30] <pyCube__> anyway...[05:21:34] * pyCube__ drunk rambles[05:21:38] <cps1966> yeah it kills my constamt ringing in ears[05:22:10] <pyCube__> yeah. i have had tinnitus as long as i can remember[05:22:25] <pyCube__> ringing is as silent as i have ever known[05:22:41] <pyCube__> as far as i can remember anyway[05:23:05] <cps1966> me to used to beable to play songs just listening to them[05:23:39] <cps1966> the ringing killed that off[05:24:47] <pyCube__> i have all the weird shit.. left handed, color blind, tinnitus.. hehe[05:26:26] <cps1966> i always thought the ringing was normal like a thing to let you know you were alive[05:26:53] <pyCube__> me too.. i remember when i first realized that it wasnt 'normal'[05:27:03] <pyCube__> during a hearing test in school[05:28:05] <pyCube__> i mentioned the tones you hear underneath everything else, ya know.. hehe.. all totally like it was normal..[05:29:20] <cps1966> hey thats a medical condition[05:29:43] <cps1966> you could qualify for thc[05:34:13] <pyCube__> heh[05:34:40] <cps1966> dunno if they buy it in ohio though[05:35:06] <cps1966> cal is more liberal[05:35:44] <cps1966> we should kill all trepublicans[05:36:05] <pyCube__> yeah.. you can get a rx for just about anything[05:38:51] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[05:39:31] <pyCube__> the thing about cal, all the prime cannabis growing regions are smack in the middle of red cal[05:40:14] <cps1966> red ??[05:40:20] <pyCube__> and the line between liberal and conservative is very blurry in those areas[05:40:32] <pyCube__> red as in republican/conservative[05:40:45] <cps1966> oh[05:40:58] <cps1966> so they grow it[05:42:01] <pyCube__> well, there are a lot of people that if you dont know better, you'd assume are full on conservative rednecks[05:42:09] <pyCube__> and they pretty much are[05:42:31] <pyCube__> except that they are also very liberal.. heh[05:44:08] <pyCube__> northern california is not really at all like what most people think when they think of california[05:45:52] <cps1966> id move there but cant afford it on ssd[05:46:17] <pyCube__> there are a few regions that arent too bad cost wise[05:46:31] <pyCube__> certainly not here in the bay area though[05:47:07] <pyCube__> i cant think too much about the cost of living here or it really starts to piss me off[05:47:21] <pyCube__> it just so ridiculous[05:47:48] <JonathanThompson> How bad is it?[05:48:06] <pyCube__> bad enough that it made my daughter cry the other day[05:48:22] <cps1966> i pay 450 a month for 2 bed apt with heat[05:48:27] <JonathanThompson> I heard from one of my neighbors that one of the neighbors he saw moving out stated that the apartment management had wanted to raise the rent by $500/month from where they had it.[05:48:39] <pyCube__> our monthly rent as relative to learning about the annual income of people in some of the pporer places in the world[05:49:09] <JonathanThompson> If at the end of my current lease, there's anything remotely like that, I'll tear up the paper, laugh, and walk out of the office.[05:49:34] <pyCube__> i live in one of the cheaper regions.. north end of the north bay area.. i pay $1750/mo for a 3bd house[05:49:51] <pyCube__> which is really good fo rth ebay area[05:50:08] <cps1966> yeah about 650 here[05:50:57] <JonathanThompson> That'd be over a 25% rent increase for me if they did that.[05:51:05] <JonathanThompson> I moved for less increase at the last place.[05:51:32] <pyCube__> i have 3 kids and pets.. so my rent options get very limited in snooty areas like this[05:51:39] <JonathanThompson> That, and while I love this downtown area, it seems insane they'd think they could expect that, with all the overcapacity now present in this small area, let alone what's coming online in the upcoming months.[05:52:14] <JonathanThompson> There are (I think it is) 3 buildings coming online at least as large as this one, on the same street, all about the same time: it's going to be a bloodbath.[05:52:41] <fcr> pyCube: it is not that costly, there are some zones in my uruguay 3rd world, that are more expensive[05:52:58] <fcr> s/my //[05:54:13] <pyCube__> fcr: sure.. dont get me wrong, i know it could be much worse[05:54:15] <fcr> here it's hard to find a rent of a 3bd house of less than $800[05:54:15] <JonathanThompson> fcr: it's important to keep in proper perspective that cost is most usefully compared relative to income for that area.[05:54:50] <JonathanThompson> So, based on my statement: what's the likely income where you're at, fcr ?[05:55:05] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[05:55:07] <JonathanThompson> $800 for a 3 bd house around where I'm at would be a bargain.[05:55:18] <JonathanThompson> But the pay tends to be a bit more around here, too, to account for it.[05:56:13] <fcr> the monthly income mean here is about $1200 per family[05:56:36] <JonathanThompson> Ok, yes.... $800/month is way too much for the average family.[05:56:52] <AlienSoldier> $800 is about my municipal tax for my summer house and 1 square kilometer of land :)[05:56:56] <AlienSoldier> for a year[05:57:04] <cps1966> should be 35% of income[05:57:12] <JonathanThompson> At least where I'm at now, for an apartment, you're not able to qualify for anything that's more expensive than 1/3 of your gross monthly income.[05:57:31] <JonathanThompson> This is by Washington state law (pretty sure that's law)...[05:58:18] <fcr> I'm lucky because I can study in the university without working :)[05:58:28] <cps1966> for mortgage maybe[05:58:30] <AlienSoldier> as more work over the internet happen, this will wreck the whole balance of income vs rent[05:58:34] <JonathanThompson> That's paid for by the state for you, fcr ?[05:58:47] <fcr> JonathanThompson: indeed[05:58:58] <JonathanThompson> cps1966: that's what it is for apartments here, by law: no more than that %[05:59:15] <JonathanThompson> Scholarship you earned, or just how the government does things?[05:59:25] <pyCube__> JonathanThompson: the problem with that is that just allows the rents to always be 1/3 of the mean income.. kinda depressing when you are trying to better youre situation financially[05:59:33] <pyCube__> your[05:59:43] <JonathanThompson> Generally in the US, you can't expect a paid college education you don't pay for or earn a scholarship for.[05:59:55] <JonathanThompson> pyCube__: that's the maximum.[05:59:59] <fcr> JonathanThompson: the public university is free (gratis) here, and it's a good level[06:00:15] <JonathanThompson> I wonder what would happen in the US if the same thing existed...[06:00:32] <JonathanThompson> (I think the US could do much better if it were for educational level)[06:00:38] <AlienSoldier> JonathanThompson lot less of soldier in the army[06:00:39] <JonathanThompson> But, only for those that are truly interested in working.[06:00:59] <JonathanThompson> AlienSoldier: how is that connected? You mean the free education?[06:01:05] <AlienSoldier> yes[06:01:11] <JonathanThompson> (You need to be specific what you're responding to ;) )[06:01:39] <fcr> JonathanThompson: I think that everyone that studies is intererested in working[06:01:44] <AlienSoldier> i'm generally very specific :P[06:03:11] <AlienSoldier> fcr how free is the university? here it was cheap but it still costed me around 200$ by course[06:03:15] <AlienSoldier> *how[06:03:37] <AlienSoldier> i did not even make a typo the fist time :)[06:03:56] <fcr> AlienSoldier: 100% free for everyone, they even give a 30% discount for the bus' tickets[06:04:29] <pyCube__> being able to choose an educational path based on genuine interest as opposed to financial reasons would be a good thing, i would think\[06:04:31] <cps1966> so if you have to take bus its not free[06:05:01] <fcr> cps1966: well, you also need to pay the food you eat[06:05:05] <AlienSoldier> i should have done mine there :) after all i needed to learn english to be able to read my technical book, i could just have learned spanish[06:05:31] <pyCube__> a lot of people dont study what they are truly interested because theres no obvious way to turn it into a means to pay off the loans[06:05:36] <cps1966> so its not totally free then[06:06:13] <pyCube__> even more people get no higher education for no other reason than that its simply too expensive[06:07:42] <fcr> cps1966: yes, the bus would cost you about 25 dollars per month[06:08:29] <cps1966> so its still outa reach for many ppl[06:08:33] <AlienSoldier> when at uni i used a magical tiquet to not pay transport fee[06:09:03] <AlienSoldier> a 100$, they never got enough change for me and i passd free[06:09:27] <pyCube__> heh[06:09:45] <fcr> cps1966: there are scolarships for people that aren't able to afford those costs[06:10:25] <BePhantom> pyCube_ university is free here[06:10:43] <cps1966> fre as in beer[06:11:00] <pyCube__> BePhantom: yeah.. it tends to be in most of the 'civilized' world[06:11:02] <pyCube__> :-p[06:11:11] <BePhantom> you can become a lawyer without paying a fee[06:11:22] <BePhantom> or doctor, or engineer, etc[06:11:23] <wavelet> university is not free.. someone paid for it[06:11:35] <pyCube__> of course[06:11:40] <wavelet> nothing is free[06:11:42] <wavelet> after all[06:11:52] <cps1966> taxes pay for it[06:11:54] <fcr> cps1966: the main problem is that people need to work, and even take two jobs, then there's no time for study[06:12:20] <BePhantom> well, students dont pay in out public universities[06:12:23] <BePhantom> our*[06:12:56] <pyCube__> BePhantom: until later when they become tax payers[06:13:07] <pyCube__> its a nice arrangement[06:13:18] <AlienSoldier> ii got university all wrong, i worked at the same time, and when i finsihed i was having enough money to no longuer need to work :)[06:13:19] <BePhantom> well, if tax is put into education is not bad[06:13:44] <fcr> that's why emigration is a big problem here :S[06:14:29] <pyCube__> my taxes go to big corporations and dead middle eastern kids[06:15:06] <wavelet> my taxes go to corrupt politicians[06:15:35] <cps1966> well here they only get a small cut[06:15:36] <pyCube__> i dont mind taxes.. i mind them being blown on stupid shit[06:16:04] <wavelet> my taxes go to the Caiman Islands[06:16:05] <cps1966> yeah like clean coal[06:16:18] <AlienSoldier> wasting taxes is one ting, spending it on stuff that create more problem is the real problem.[06:16:33] <fcr> the taxes my parents pay goes to other countries paying for the interest of loans that corrupt politicians took year ago, and are still taking[06:16:46] <fcr> years*[06:16:49] <pyCube__> i kinda like the idea of free edu and health care... and roads that are smooth and tap water that wont kill me[06:17:07] <BePhantom> my tax goes into public health care, public high education and into the politician's pockets too :)[06:17:09] <AlienSoldier> interest is such a racket, one thing the coran got right... too bad they don't apply it[06:18:23] <AlienSoldier> Interest are like a memory leak, eventually you need to reboot the system[06:18:44] <cps1966> well all the money i paid in ss over the years for nedicare i still have to pay on top of that[06:18:52] <pyCube__> a large portion of "the system" needs a reboot[06:18:56] <cps1966> medicae[06:19:05] <cps1966> i give up[06:19:12] <pyCube__> heh[06:19:45] <BePhantom> medicare[06:19:48] <BePhantom> ;)[06:19:53] <cps1966> yeah[06:20:22] <fcr> At least I can learn japanese in my university, and I hope to be able to read haiku in japanese some day[06:20:26] <cps1966> costs like 140 a month and still have to pay 30% of bills[06:20:38] <pyCube__> the thing that cracks me up about democracy, at least as practiced in teh usa, is that when people elect assholes, they turn around an d bitch about said assholes and then say govt is the problem[06:21:10] <BePhantom> cps1966, healthcare in usa is crappy :P[06:21:17] <libervisco> the last paragraph here is pure klingon to me http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/mmlr/2009-02-08/makebootable_what_and_why_and_how_do_it_manually[06:21:31] <cps1966> i know i avoid doctors[06:22:44] <pyCube__> first time i ever had any health insurance was when i taught english in the czech rep.. had access to czech medical care.. hehe[06:23:10] <BePhantom> libervisco, looks like jibberish to me ;)[06:23:35] <libervisco> yeah :D[06:23:37] <fcr> libervisco: do you have the offset of the partition?[06:23:46] <libervisco> yeah 3f[06:24:00] <BePhantom> libervisco, you may want to try google translation tool for that one :D[06:24:00] <libervisco> or 63[06:24:08] <libervisco> lol[06:24:48] <fcr> then you have to write that offset as a 4byte unsigned integer in little endian at the offset 506 of the partition[06:24:52] <BePhantom> pyCube__ do you have health insurance now?[06:25:28] <BePhantom> or you just try to avoid getting sick? :D[06:25:42] <fcr> libervisco: what's the offset?[06:25:57] <libervisco> 63 or 3f (in hex)[06:26:00] <libervisco> 00x3f[06:26:10] <fcr> is it the first partition?[06:26:18] <libervisco> on that disk yes[06:27:03] <fcr> mmm, strange, an odd number..[06:27:13] <CIA-15> dlmcpaul * r30548 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/plugins/asf_reader/ (ASFFileReader.cpp ASFIndex.cpp asf_reader.cpp): Now plays 2 out of 3 files and that is good yes[06:27:37] <pyCube__> BePhantom: yeah.. i do.. i am pretty lucky. belong to a good union[06:27:55] <libervisco> fcr, I got it with cfdisk's print method..[06:29:03] <fcr> ok, then write an 0x3f at the byte 506 of the partition[06:29:20] *** umccullough_w has joined #haiku[06:29:44] <CIA-15> dlmcpaul * r30549 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/plugins/avcodec/avcodec.cpp: return LAST_BUFFER_ERROR when last buffer reached[06:29:45] <fcr> and zeros at the bytes 507, 508 and 509[06:30:25] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[06:30:40] <liberfiasco> sorry :S[06:30:43] <liberfiasco> here's a screenshot from cfdisk http://memeverse.com/misc/offset.png[06:30:50] *** liberhaiku has quit IRC[06:30:56] *** libervisco has quit IRC[06:31:04] *** liberfiasco is now known as libervisco[06:31:11] <fcr> liberfiasco: why don't you use this nice program?: http://stefanschramm.net/dev/makebootabletiny/makebootabletiny.c[06:31:46] <libervisco> How do I install it?[06:32:05] <fcr> gcc makebootabletiny.c -o makebootabletiny[06:32:57] <fcr> libervisco: if you read the first comment in that file, you'd see the instructions[06:33:11] <libervisco> oh[06:33:29] <libervisco> Thanks fcr[06:33:46] <fcr> yw[06:35:31] <libervisco> looks like it done it :)[06:36:00][06:36:18] <fcr> BePhantom: y eso que estoy aprendiendo japonés[06:36:24] <libervisco> gonna try booting into Haiku now :)[06:36:25] <CIA-15> dlmcpaul * r30550 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/HaikuImage: Add asf_reader to the image. Feedback welcome[06:36:27] <libervisco> bbiab[06:37:05] *** libervisco has quit IRC[06:37:22][06:37:30][06:38:46] <fcr> I know, but it's not easy to explain things I don't even fully understand[06:40:31] *** paul0 has quit IRC[06:40:35] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[06:41:47] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[06:42:06] <libervisco> It started booting and then froze..[06:42:11] <fcr> :([06:42:21] <libervisco> something of relevance I managed to notice is: "fatfs cannot mount, bad superblock"[06:43:51] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[06:46:40] <libervisco> hmm maybe if I change my BIOS settings...[06:46:45] <libervisco> bbiab[06:46:49] *** libervisco has quit IRC[06:48:53] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[06:48:59] <_-Caleb-_> hi all!!![06:49:36] <fcr> BePhantom: why don't you join #haiku-es also?[06:50:05] <BePhantom> fcr, I'm already there[06:52:22] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[06:55:12] <libervisco> it detects the CPU cores, passes APIC.. and last three lines are sent STARTUP, done trampolining, kernel entry at 80041a64[06:55:16] <libervisco> then it freezes[06:59:03] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[07:00:19] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[07:00:46] <MaggieMay> hello[07:06:32] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[07:08:53] <Maya-sama> hi MaggieMay[07:12:21] <BePhantom> i think MaggieMay is spambot[07:12:29] * Maya-sama nods[07:12:38] <Maya-sama> seem to recall something like that from yesterday, yeah[07:12:44] <Maya-sama> only then it didn't say 'hello' >.>[07:12:45] <Maya-sama> ^-^[07:12:46] <BePhantom> yes[07:14:30] * libervisco goes to try safe mode, disabling SATA etc..[07:14:33] *** libervisco has quit IRC[07:14:42] *** MaggieMay has quit IRC[07:28:15] *** Geoz has quit IRC[07:35:52] *** umccullough_w has quit IRC[07:36:31] <Disreali_> uhg can't sleep[07:37:59] * Maya-sama hands Disreali a small and a bigger hammer[07:38:00] <Maya-sama> ^-^[07:38:11] *** oxocoffee has quit IRC[07:38:45] <Disreali_> hammer?[07:39:48] <cps1966> knock yourself out[07:40:00] <Disreali_> doh![07:42:16] *** libervisco has joined #haiku[07:44:46] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[07:50:50] <libervisco> well.. strange stuff, when I enable AHCI in bios Haiku starts booting, freezes as usual and then seems like it's continuing to boot, and then just restarts the computer[07:53:18] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[08:04:36] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[08:14:15] *** absabs has joined #haiku[08:14:52] *** Fainto has quit IRC[08:16:57] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[08:17:01] <Kokito> hello folks[08:17:22] <Kokito> Haiku is now playing wmv media file nicely :)[08:21:43] <MrSunshine___> nice :)[08:21:53] <MrSunshine___> nativley or by vlc ?[08:23:40] <Kokito> natively[08:23:42] <Kokito> media player[08:24:02] <Kokito> thanks to David McPaul's recent committs[08:24:26] <expensivelesbian> how would Haiku handle playing embedded media files in web pages? Content which, traditionally, has been played via a QuickTime or WMP plugin?[08:24:32] <MrSunshine___> cool :)[08:24:57] <expensivelesbian> would Haiku have to go and write its own plugin, or is there some other way?[08:25:04] <MrSunshine___> i guess a firefox plugin would have to be written[08:25:06] <Kokito> no clue expensivelesbian[08:25:49] *** databridge has joined #haiku[08:26:54] <databridge> hello, does anyone know good sites for free downloading of ebooks?[08:27:07] <fcr> cuack[08:28:36] <HaiColon> expensivelesbian: maybe porting the firefox vlc plugin from linux would be possible[08:28:53] <HaiColon> databridge: feedbooks.com is neat[08:29:02] <databridge> ok thx[08:29:37] <MrSunshine___> HaiColon, prefereably we want a native plugin tho :)[08:29:42] <expensivelesbian> yes, perhaps. However that still leaves the issue of using VLC, as opposed to a native solution. And Firefox only. Which, I appreciate, is the default browser currently[08:30:17] <expensivelesbian> perhaps it's part of the scope of the WebKit GSOC project. Perhaps[08:30:18] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[08:30:30] <HaiColon> Native would be better of course and for that I don't think there is any way around writing a plugin from scratch. But porting the vlc plugin would be a start. Dunno how much work it takes to write a plugin from scratch compared to porting one :)[08:31:08] <MrSunshine___> porting one shouldnt be to hard imo ... as they cant be very bound to any specific platform .. hopefully :P[08:31:36] <MrSunshine___> never know with linux etc stuff, they claim its portable then its bound tightly to X :P[08:32:07] <HaiColon> Hmm, maybe they mean porting from one linux distro to another ;)[08:34:46] *** databridge has quit IRC[08:40:17] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:40:36] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[08:41:03] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[08:41:52] *** liberfiasco has joined #haiku[08:44:29] *** redblue has joined #haiku[08:45:20] *** Kokito has quit IRC[08:52:17] *** libervisco has quit IRC[08:53:06] *** liberfiasco is now known as libervisco[08:59:13] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:03:14] *** ulterior_modem has quit IRC[09:03:27] *** ulterior_modem has joined #Haiku[09:08:48] *** databridge has joined #haiku[09:12:06] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[09:18:46] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[09:22:54] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[09:26:10] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[09:28:16] *** VinDuv is now known as VinDuv_[09:28:43] *** VinDuv_ has left #haiku[09:29:52] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[09:30:23] *** wackymacs has quit IRC[09:32:20] *** databridge has quit IRC[09:39:47] *** pyCube__ has quit IRC[09:41:12] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[09:41:23] *** procton has joined #haiku[09:46:51] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[09:52:48] *** RudolfC has joined #haiku[09:53:36] <RudolfC> Hi there, good morning from Holland :-)[09:55:27] <RudolfC> is anyone here who can help me with modifying a jam file for the nvidia driver in haiku?[09:59:36] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[10:01:33] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[10:06:49] <Disreali> RudolfC, sorry. those who could help are most likely asleep[10:08:44] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[10:13:24] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[10:16:30] *** RudolfC has quit IRC[10:16:54] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[10:21:14] *** plfiorini_ has joined #haiku[10:32:31] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[10:58:57] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[11:02:19] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[11:06:45] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[11:16:31] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[11:22:55] *** El_Al has joined #haiku[11:23:50] <El_Al> hmmm....anyone help with the following output from jam -q :[11:24:11] <El_Al> ...failed C++ generated/objects/haiku/x86/release/kits/locale/DefaultCatalog.o ...[11:24:13] <El_Al> ...skipped liblocale.so for lack of <src!kits!locale>DefaultCatalog.o...[11:24:16] <El_Al> ...skipped <HaikuImage>haiku.image-copy-files-dummy-system/lib for lack of liblocale.so...[11:24:36] <CIA-15> zooey * r30551 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/HaikuImage:[11:24:36] <CIA-15> * reverted the part of 30545 that added the locale kit to the image,[11:24:36] <CIA-15> since it does not build with gcc4[11:25:31] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[11:25:38] <El_Al> meh! there you go! :)[11:26:00] <El_Al> thanks Zooey![11:27:11] *** expensivelesbian has quit IRC[11:27:48] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[11:27:58] *** expensivelesbian has left #haiku[11:30:38] *** plfiorini_ has quit IRC[11:32:50] <CIA-15> stippi * r30552 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/ (App_ArmyKnife App_BeVexed App_Generic_4):[11:32:50] <CIA-15> New icons from zuMi. Thanks a lot! (Scott sent me those, I still want to keep[11:32:51] <CIA-15> all Haiku vector icons ever made in this folder... :-)[11:32:51] <CIA-15> The new generic app icon looks pretty cool (Haiku colors) and could replace[11:32:51] <CIA-15> our current generic icon (broken link icon needs to be updated as well then),[11:32:51] <CIA-15> feedback welcome.[11:37:04] <Ingenu> tadam[11:55:46] <CIA-15> rudolfc * r30553 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/ (8 files in 3 dirs):[11:55:46] <CIA-15> added partial DDC/EDID support using the accelerants common staticlibrary. Only[11:55:46] <CIA-15> dumping config, monitor info to logfile. logfiles are welcome as the CRTC/DAC to[11:55:46] <CIA-15> I2Cport relationchip is not known by me yet. Bumped version to 0.89.[12:00:01] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[12:02:40] *** miqlas has quit IRC[12:05:14] <Ingenu> wow[12:05:20] <Ingenu> sexy new keymap app :)[12:05:22] * Ingenu likes[12:05:55] <CIA-15> stippi * r30554 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/App_ArmyKnife:[12:05:55] <CIA-15> * Tweaks to shapes to make 32x32 and especially 16x16 a lot crisper. Uses[12:05:55] <CIA-15> available space slightly better.[12:05:55] <CIA-15> * Gave every icon object a name.[12:08:30] <CIA-15> stippi * r30555 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/App_BeVexed: Shadow wasn't parallel with shape.[12:13:05] <CIA-15> rudolfc * r30556 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_i2c.c: EDID test: only check on wired buses.[12:17:25] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[12:18:04] <CIA-15> stippi * r30557 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/FloppyBootImage:[12:18:04] <CIA-15> Apply Francois changes to enabling the ATA stack via "HAIKU_ATA_STACK = 1 ;"[12:18:04] <CIA-15> in the UserBuildConfig to the FloppyBootImage as well.[12:18:29] *** expensivelesbian has joined #haiku[12:20:17] <Disreali_> wb expensivelesbian[12:21:43] <CIA-15> bonefish * r30558 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TabView.cpp:[12:21:43] <CIA-15> * BTabView::AddTab(): Call Select() only when already attached to the window.[12:21:43] <CIA-15> It's only necessary in this case and apparently there are applications that[12:21:43] <CIA-15> rely on Select() not being called before the tab is attached to the window.[12:21:43] <CIA-15> Fixes #3852.[12:21:43] <CIA-15> * Automatic white-space cleanup.[12:24:20] *** Disreali is now known as Disreali_away[12:26:57] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[12:34:52] <El_Al> Im getting an Access Denied Error trying to flashnul haiku.img to a usb stick. Anybody had this same problem?[12:35:27] <El_Al> ...with two separate usb sticks actually[12:37:27] <Rakhun> regular users typically don't have write access to device files, you might need root privileges[12:37:49] * Rakhun has no idea what system El_Al is on..[12:39:05] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[12:39:10] <El_Al> Raknun: thanks...using vista :( so using cmd with admin priviledges[12:39:33] <El_Al> Rakhun sorry[12:40:15] <Rakhun> no worries, I know nothing about vista though (and I don't want to know either)[12:41:35] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[12:41:51] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[12:42:14] <El_Al> hmmm....I've had an idea. I could do it all from my other (XP) machine. I seem to recall that I got a sucessful write from that machine not long ago...I will try that[12:47:00] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[13:00:24] *** El_Al has quit IRC[13:00:32] <CIA-15> stippi * r30559 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/Server_Bluetooth: Icon by Mark Erben, small tweaks by myself. Thanks a lot![13:00:50] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[13:02:18] <CIA-15> stippi * r30560 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp: Added Mark to list of contributors.[13:04:45] *** witukind has joined #haiku[13:06:28] *** stippi has joined #haiku[13:06:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[13:16:55] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[13:17:35] <CIA-15> stippi * r30561 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/ (Server_Bluetooth Server_Bluetooth_2): This was actually the second version of the Bluetooth server icon...[13:19:54] <CIA-15> stippi * r30562 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/ (Prefs_Bluetooth Server_Bluetooth):[13:19:54] <CIA-15> Added the icons which are the current Bluetooth server and prefs icons. Please[13:19:54] <CIA-15> always put new icons here first. Oliver, if you still have the original icons,[13:19:54] <CIA-15> with named paths and shapes and so on, please put them here and replace the[13:19:54] <CIA-15> ones I extracted from the binaries.[13:20:20] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[13:20:31] <Carbamide> Good morning[13:20:44] <Carbamide> So I've copied all of haiku onto a usb drive. What's the command to make it bootable?[13:20:53] <Carbamide> makebootable? Is there more to it than that?][13:22:54] <luroh> Carbamide: depends. if by "copied all of haiku" you mean dd'ed a haiku.image to the raw usb device, it should be bootable without having to do anything else[13:23:10] <Carbamide> No, that's not what I mean.[13:23:15] <luroh> ah[13:23:48] <Carbamide> While running haiku in a virtual machine, I formatted a usb drive to beos and copied the contents of the vmware image over.[13:24:00] <Carbamide> I've tried makebootable, but it doesn't seem to work correctly, or I'm usinmg it wrong[13:24:02] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[13:25:33] <luroh> i see. i've never dabbled with makebootable myself, sorry[13:26:23] <Carbamide> That's ok. I'm still googling. :-)[13:26:24] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[13:26:38] *** El_Al has joined #haiku[13:26:45] <luroh> people in this channel have been mentioning makebootabletiny, don't know if that's of any help[13:30:37] *** aldeck has joined #Haiku[13:33:11] *** Gaap has joined #haiku[13:34:40] *** El_Al has quit IRC[13:35:29] *** El_Al has joined #haiku[13:37:26] <El_Al> hmmm...So my Acer Aspire 5920 notebook (not netbook) Panics after the boot sequence but before the desktop. I get this error:[13:37:32] <kirilla> I've tried using makebootabletiny_beos and it failed :I[13:38:06] <kirilla> I also copied the first 512 bytes from a haiku.image to the physical partition, but still no good[13:38:11] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[13:38:29] <El_Al> Page fault, but interrupts were disabled. Touching Address 0xeadbf47 from eip 0x80040420[13:38:51] <El_Al> any ideas where I should go to try to resolve this?[13:39:15] <absabs> bt[13:39:51] <El_Al> absabs: been there but don't REALLY know what info I'm looking for ;)[13:40:28] <El_Al> I'm guessing there is some unsupported hardware in the machine[13:40:29] <absabs> type bt when KDLed[13:40:52] <absabs> IMHO, there's some kernel or driver bug[13:41:14] <El_Al> absabs: Am I just looking for the last few lines of the backtrace?[13:41:23] <absabs> yep[13:41:44] <absabs> that can be useful for find which caused the KDL[13:43:14] <El_Al> absabs: just booting the notebook again.... 10 secs![13:44:04] <El_Al> just waiting for kdl now[13:46:43] <El_Al> absabs: how far back through the backtrace. The last two lines are something to do with kernel thread entry and kernel thread exit[13:46:56] <VinDuv> El_Al: In the backtrace, you should probably see a line with "<kernel_x86>:int_bottom"[13:47:14] *** nibble has joined #haiku[13:47:29] <absabs> the more the better[13:48:08] <El_Al> should I paste it all here[13:48:11] <El_Al> ??[13:48:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[13:48:31] <dr_evil> good morning stippi[13:48:50] <luroh> El_Al: pastebin.com[13:49:20] *** helf has quit IRC[13:50:05] *** aldeck has quit IRC[13:50:05] <El_Al> luroh: ok, I'm going to need a fer mins to sort it out! :)[13:55:46] *** helf has joined #haiku[13:58:27] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[13:59:11] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[14:02:58] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[14:05:00] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[14:15:10] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[14:28:14] *** philcostin has left #haiku[14:28:51] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[14:29:29] <CIA-15> stippi * r30563 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ServerApp.cpp: Fixed warning.[14:41:29] *** redblue has quit IRC[14:41:48] *** El_Al has quit IRC[14:42:36] *** redblue has joined #haiku[14:42:57] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[14:44:29] *** oco has joined #haiku[15:00:00] *** sarmale has quit IRC[15:00:55] *** nibble has quit IRC[15:05:28] *** nibble has joined #haiku[15:06:55] *** oco_ has joined #haiku[15:11:18] *** tqh has joined #haiku[15:12:29] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[15:15:12] *** oco has quit IRC[15:15:33] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:15:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:17:14] *** nibble has quit IRC[15:18:13] <redblue> mmu_man =)[15:19:25] *** stippi has quit IRC[15:24:51] <CIA-15> zooey * r30564 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/locale/Jamfile: * catalogTestAddOn was missing from LocaleKitTests[15:26:25] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[15:27:09] *** aldeck has quit IRC[15:28:39] <mmu_man> plop[15:34:24] <CIA-15> mmlr * r30565 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/busses/usb/uhci.cpp: We are generally interested in those error bits so print them always.[15:42:02] *** _-Caleb-_ has joined #haiku[15:42:10] <CIA-15> zooey * r30566 /haiku/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs):[15:42:10] <CIA-15> * applied several fixes to make locale kit buildable with gcc4, too[15:42:10] <CIA-15> * actually, all those fixes were already contained in PulkoMandys patch,[15:42:10] <CIA-15> but I just missed that :-/[15:49:05] *** nibble has joined #haiku[15:59:22] *** nibble has quit IRC[16:01:51] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[16:01:59] *** nibble has joined #haiku[16:02:25] *** redblue has quit IRC[16:06:14] *** redblue has joined #haiku[16:10:35] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[16:15:47] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[16:17:08] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[16:18:14] <CIA-15> zooey * r30567 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/locale/DefaultCatalog.h: * removed codewarrior-specific compatibility cruft[16:18:31] *** Kishuu has joined #haiku[16:18:38] <Kishuu> hi[16:20:06] *** Kishuu has left #haiku[16:22:09] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[16:23:18] *** AnEvilYak has quit IRC[16:26:07] <CIA-15> zooey * r30568 /haiku/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):[16:26:07] <CIA-15> * followed advice by Rene to explicitly import the used std-classes instead[16:26:07] <CIA-15> of simply importing the whole namespace - thanks for proofreading![16:40:39] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[16:43:31] <CIA-15> anevilyak * r30569 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/plugins/asf_reader/ASFIndex.cpp: gcc4 build fix.[16:47:14] *** HaiColon has joined #haiku[16:47:36] *** Fainto has joined #haiku[16:50:28] <CIA-15> anevilyak * r30570 /haiku/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move using directives into the cpp files so they don't leak into apps making use of the locale kit.[16:54:30] *** HaiColon has quit IRC[16:56:16] <CIA-15> zooey * r30571 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/locale/DefaultCatalog.cpp:[16:56:16] <CIA-15> fix gcc2 build:[16:56:16] <CIA-15> * __gnu_cxx namespace is unknown to gcc2[16:58:20] <CIA-15> zooey * r30572 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/locale/DefaultCatalog.cpp:[16:58:20] <CIA-15> err, fix for my fix:[16:58:20] <CIA-15> * its __GNUC__, not __GCC__, tsk![17:02:35] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[17:05:37] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[17:09:14] *** kirilla has quit IRC[17:09:40] *** pgr has joined #haiku[17:14:40] *** wackymacs is now known as wackymacs-away[17:21:12] *** XDS2010 has joined #Haiku[17:21:41] <XDS2010> Is there a live USB version of Haiku ?[17:22:29] <HeTo> XDS2010: yes there is, just download one of the pre-alpha images and dd it to a raw usb stick[17:22:51] <HeTo> if you dd it to a partition you need to run makebootable(tiny) after dd'ing[17:24:10] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[17:32:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:37:18] *** mmadia has quit IRC[17:37:18] *** atomozero has quit IRC[17:37:24] <CIA-15> zooey * r30573 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/HaikuImage: * now that it builds for gcc4 and gcc2, added locale kit back to image[17:37:38] *** wackymacs-away is now known as wackymacs[17:38:33] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[17:38:57] <XDS2010> ty HeTo[17:38:59] <XDS2010> BBIAB[17:39:17] *** XDS2010 has quit IRC[17:39:22] <CIA-15> zooey * r30574 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/locale/collatorSpeed.cpp: * fixed one more gcc4 warning[17:45:27] *** nibble has quit IRC[17:49:19] *** kirilla has quit IRC[17:55:28] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[17:56:18] *** sprma has joined #haiku[17:59:26] <dr_evil> there is a lot of deadbeef in haiku lately[18:00:14] *** thebolt is now known as thebolt|away[18:01:48] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[18:01:54] <CIA-15> jackburton * r30575 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): get_device_hid() now has a 'size_t bufferLength' parameter, to avoid the risk of buffer overflow[18:05:47] *** pgr2 has joined #haiku[18:06:48] *** sprma has quit IRC[18:10:06] * mmu_man prefers chicken[18:14:12] <dr_evil> deadbeef is good[18:18:14] <mmu_man> vs livefeed[18:22:52] *** pgr has quit IRC[18:25:34] *** MaggieMay has joined #haiku[18:27:01] <MaggieMay> #irc[18:27:18] *** absabs has quit IRC[18:27:21] *** MaggieMay has quit IRC[18:29:51] *** koo5 has quit IRC[18:31:45] <MindChild> I like 0xDEADBEEF and 0xDEADDOOD[18:33:05] *** koo5 has joined #haiku[18:46:48] <Rakhun> 0xDEADD00D*[18:53:03] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[18:54:34] *** zaunpfahl has left #haiku[18:54:39] *** josh__ has joined #haiku[18:55:19] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[18:55:27] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[18:55:33] *** josh__ is now known as Carbamide[18:59:03] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:01:57] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:02:52] <stpere> morning[19:04:09] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[19:04:38] *** skar1 has joined #haiku[19:04:51] <stpere> hi Carlos[19:06:05] <skar1> hi[19:06:33] <skar1> photos of flisol http://picasaweb.google.com/las.travesias2/FLISOL2009MEDELLIN03#5330959058275419730[19:11:55] <zaunpfahl> haiku bootloader on USB stick doesn't see its OS partition: what is wrong? HD partition as image target works no problem[19:12:39] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:13:49] <mmadia> zaunpfahl did you dd it to the entire usb stick or to a partition on the usb stick?[19:14:06] <zaunpfahl> partition type eb[19:14:18] <zaunpfahl> linux compile target[19:14:26] <mmadia> it's easiest if you dd it the entire device.[19:14:43] <mmadia> this way the boot code doesnt need to be modified.[19:14:47] <mmadia> hi stpere[19:15:02] <zaunpfahl> with the HD partition it works[19:19:24] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[19:21:30] <CIA-15> mmu_man * r30576 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/urlwrapper.cpp: Actually no need to pass the NULL either...[19:23:14] *** wavelet has quit IRC[19:26:44] *** kirilla has quit IRC[19:28:58] <CIA-15> stippi * r30577 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/servers/app/benchmark/ (Benchmark.cpp DrawingModeToString.cpp): GCC4 build fixes.[19:29:35] *** Vorador has joined #haiku[19:32:39] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[19:34:28] *** oco_ has quit IRC[19:39:16] *** stippi has joined #haiku[19:39:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[19:39:48] <CIA-15> anevilyak * r30578 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/plugins/asf_reader/ASFIndex.cpp: If I owed Axel a beer for every style violation, I'd quite likely be bankrupt by now...[19:39:57] *** _-Caleb-_ has quit IRC[19:41:29] <CIA-15> axeld * r30579 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (Desktop.cpp ServerWindow.cpp):[19:41:29] <CIA-15> * The direct connection update in ServerWindow::{_Show()|_Hide()} is superfluous[19:41:29] <CIA-15> since Korli's change in r30440.[19:41:29] <CIA-15> * 80 character per line limit.[19:41:32] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[19:51:30] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:57:55] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[19:59:41] *** Vorador has quit IRC[20:01:21] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[20:03:49] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[20:04:28] *** scanty has quit IRC[20:04:53] *** Al2O3_ has joined #haiku[20:06:32] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[20:07:26] *** witukind has quit IRC[20:10:23] *** kokito_SFO has joined #haiku[20:10:36] <kokito_SFO> hello folks[20:10:40] <DaaT> kokito_SFO![20:10:48] <kokito_SFO> hey DaaT :)[20:10:56] <DaaT> tudo bem?[20:11:12] <kokito_SFO> tudo bem DaaT e voce?[20:11:32] <mmu_man> SFO = Software Flying Object ?[20:11:37] <mmu_man> :)[20:11:41] *** Al2O3_ has quit IRC[20:11:52] <kokito_SFO> no, San Francisco airport :)[20:11:53][20:11:55] <DaaT> e a familia?[20:12:00] <DaaT> O as in Airport? :P[20:12:12] <kokito_SFO> la familia OK, obrigado :)[20:12:18] <kokito_SFO> yes, I am at the airport DaaT[20:12:51] <DaaT> :)[20:13:10] <kokito_SFO> getting on a plane in a few[20:13:29] <DaaT> argentina? japan?[20:13:34] <kokito_SFO> ARG[20:14:14] <DaaT> nice[20:15:25] <kokito_SFO> ok, gotta go[20:15:31] <DaaT> have a safe flight[20:15:31] <kokito_SFO> see you all in a few days[20:15:39] <kokito_SFO> obrigado![20:15:41] <kokito_SFO> ciao![20:15:49] *** kokito_SFO has quit IRC[20:16:36] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[20:17:17] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[20:17:50] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30580 /buildtools/trunk/gcc/gcc/config/mips/haiku.h: Tweaks. Removing superflous config. Cleaner and closer to defaults, hopefully.[20:18:51] <stpere> Diver is a very valuable tester :)[20:19:03] <stpere> does he come to irc sometimes?[20:20:02] <kirilla> dunno[20:20:22] <kirilla> but my social memory is like that of a goldfish[20:20:33] <stpere> :)[20:23:25] <mmadia> aww.. .zipomatic is screwing up.[20:26:25] <mmadia> i'm trying to zip up a mozilla cvs source tree ~310mb and it randomly just dies.[20:26:27] *** warpdesign has joined #haiku[20:26:46] <warpdesign> hi[20:27:18] * DaaT gives CPR to zipomatic[20:28:10] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30581 /haiku/trunk/ (17 files in 15 dirs): Adding a few directories for mipsel.[20:28:30] <DaaT> hi warpdesign[20:28:39] <kirilla> mmadia: zipomatic or zip?[20:28:41] <warpdesign> what's new ? :)[20:28:48] <mmadia> zipomatic[20:29:02] <mmadia> i'm checkfs'ing the partition now.[20:29:03] <kirilla> hmm.. guess I'm to blame then.. possibly :)[20:29:15] <mmadia> this is in 30573[20:29:45] <kirilla> its been years though, since I touch zipomatic[20:30:29] <mmadia> zipomatic will pop up, will start compressing many of the files, i can see the temporary file growing, and then zipomatic exits and the temporary file just vanishes :/[20:30:34] <kirilla> (its barberpole is truly horrible)[20:30:54] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[20:31:00] <kirilla> mmadia: what happens if you invoke zip with the same arguments from the CLI?[20:31:13] <mmadia> once checkfs is done, i'll give that a whirl.[20:32:50] <PulkoMandy> +++[20:32:52] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[20:35:34] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[20:35:48] *** brunobratwurst has joined #haiku[20:36:05] <mmadia42> bah[20:36:19] <mmadia42> kdl when i hit 293100 nodes.[20:37:15] <DaaT> ouch[20:38:33] *** mmadia has quit IRC[20:39:19] <brunobratwurst> hi all[20:40:29] <warpdesign> hi[20:41:27] <mmadia42> is it possible to use a 2nd haiku machine for serial debugging? :)[20:43:27] <kirilla> mmadia42: I don't think the tty thingie is done yet[20:44:05] <kirilla> ie, even if you copied SerialConnect over it wouldn't be able to connect to your serial ports[20:44:19] <mmadia42> ok.. i'll just reboot.[20:44:49] <mmu_man> no[20:45:17] <mmadia42> no , as in don't reboot or can't serial debug, mmu_man ?[20:46:05] <mmu_man> no tty addon yet = no /dev/ports/*[20:51:21] <brunobratwurst> sc?[20:51:36] *** warpdesign has quit IRC[20:53:11] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[20:53:31] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[20:55:03] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[20:56:22] <mmu_man> brunobratwurst SerialConnect is a GUI client for parrot (BeOS' own minicom lookalike)[20:57:09] <CIA-15> zooey * r30582 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/locale/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * added number format tests to build of locale kit[20:58:03] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[20:58:08] *** skar1 has left #haiku[20:59:07] <CIA-15> zooey * r30583 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/add-ons/translators/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * fix gcc4 build of translator add-on tests[20:59:45] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:00:01] <CIA-15> zooey * r30584 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/translation/TranslatorRoster.cpp:[21:00:01] <CIA-15> * fix gcc4 warning[21:00:01] <CIA-15> * automatic whitespace cleanup[21:00:53] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30585 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/BuildSetup: Prepare mipsel for jamming. Adding mipsel target case, a simple boot platform and a -fno-pic setting for the kernel.[21:02:29] <CIA-15> zooey * r30586 /haiku/trunk/ (50 files in 5 dirs):[21:02:29] <CIA-15> * fix gcc4 build of cppunit library by explicitly spelling out std:: in[21:02:29] <CIA-15> the headers and importing the required classes in the implementation files[21:02:29] <CIA-15> * automatic whitespace cleanup[21:03:02] <CIA-15> kirilla * r30587 /haiku/trunk/headers/posix/ (setjmp.h signal.h): Adding mipsel arch.[21:04:37] *** scanty has joined #haiku[21:04:48] <brunobratwurst> thx[21:05:04] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:05:58] *** geist has joined #haiku[21:05:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[21:07:58] <AnEvilYak> hi geist[21:08:48] <geist> heya, just upgrading the kernel on my linux box[21:08:53] <geist> 2.6.28 aww yeah[21:09:01] <AnEvilYak> ahh[21:10:07] *** Al2O3_ has joined #haiku[21:10:25] <DaaT> anything exciting about it? :)[21:10:31] <geist> nope[21:10:34] <DaaT> yay![21:10:35] <geist> just > 2.6.27[21:10:38] <DaaT> eh[21:10:47] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[21:11:12] *** Geoz has quit IRC[21:11:40] <geist> also i just noticed that i wired the HD light on my atom box to the power pins[21:11:49] <AnEvilYak> oops[21:11:50] <geist> so lazy though, dont want to take it apart just for that[21:12:20] <kirilla> just don't let the smoke escape![21:12:44] <geist> looks like it. i keep thinking the HD is being nailed[21:13:15] <CIA-15> zooey * r30588 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/locale/Jamfile: * should be linked against target-c++-lib (as I'm told by Rene)[21:14:06] <DaaT> that Acer Revo looks nice[21:14:14] <DaaT> i think it's Revo[21:14:41] <DaaT> yeah, aspire revo[21:14:53] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[21:15:41] *** AnEvilYak has quit IRC[21:16:28] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #haiku[21:17:51] <mmadia> even after re-initializing the BFS partition, re-downloading the mozilla source tree, zip-o-matic still bails.[21:18:50] <Gaap> please, do you have a guide for install haiku to disc?[21:19:00] <mmadia> zip error: Out of memory (was adding files to zip file)[21:19:23] <Gaap> please, do you have a guide to install haiku to disc? (using linux)[21:19:23] <mmadia> that was with zip -r9y pleaseDontWork.zip mozilla/[21:20:07] <mmadia> Gaap : http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installation.html[21:20:15] <Gaap> thanks :)[21:21:22] *** Al2O3_ has quit IRC[21:21:29] *** Al2O3_ has joined #haiku[21:22:16] *** mmadia has quit IRC[21:24:02] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[21:25:23] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[21:25:42] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[21:26:46] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[21:27:43] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[21:28:48] *** rcjsuen_ has quit IRC[21:28:57] <mmadia42> happens in 30573, 30356, 30324[21:30:12] *** aguent has joined #haiku[21:31:08] *** brunobratwurst has quit IRC[21:32:07] * Disreali has returned[21:37:23] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[21:40:43] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[21:43:55] *** BrunoBratwurst has joined #haiku[21:45:00] *** Disreali has quit IRC[21:46:51] *** andguent has quit IRC[21:47:54] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[21:54:47] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[21:56:53] <Disreali> I'm using Installer to update my main haiku vmdisk. Do I need to to use the 'Write boot sector to Haikku' button?[21:57:13] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:00:57] *** Disreali has quit IRC[22:03:54] *** DaaT has quit IRC[22:04:35] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[22:04:46] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[22:05:04] <mmu_man> AnEvilYak what's those != "-9z99") ??[22:05:32] *** redblue has quit IRC[22:06:41] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[22:10:25] *** BrunoBratwurst has quit IRC[22:14:36] *** zaunpfahl has left #haiku[22:15:11] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[22:15:16] <Hugen_> hey[22:17:22] <CIA-15> oruizdorantes * r30589 /haiku/trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix spelling errors[22:19:22] *** aguent has quit IRC[22:19:32] *** leszek has joined #haiku[22:20:09] <leszek> hi[22:20:59] <kirilla> hi leszek and Hugen_[22:21:38] <Begasus> g'night peeps[22:21:49] <kirilla> good night Begasus[22:22:26] <mmu_man> aw bebook is wrong on be_app_messenger, it's not a ptr[22:22:31] *** Begasus has quit IRC[22:22:44] <CIA-15> stpere * r30590 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/stylededit/ (StyledEditWindow.cpp StyledEditWindow.h):[22:22:44] <CIA-15> StyledEdit didn't clear the marks on the Font Styles in the font menu.[22:22:44] <CIA-15> It resulted in several bogus checkmarks. (ticket #2984)[22:22:44] <CIA-15> Also, The last font was always checked by default. The error was that[22:22:44] <CIA-15> instead than Marking the "left align" item, it was checking that font because[22:22:45] <CIA-15> of the wrong variable used.[22:23:17] <kirilla> its sad that we can't edit the bebook[22:24:05] <kirilla> would be nice if access would give permission.. what have they got to loose, really[22:25:13] <HeTo> we can't even add footnotes?[22:25:20] <HeTo> or comments[22:25:37] <Hugen_> re[22:27:13] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:27:56] *** El_Al has joined #haiku[22:31:15] *** Gaap has quit IRC[22:33:01] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[22:36:05] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:36:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[22:43:08] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[22:43:09] *** adamk has quit IRC[22:46:44] *** adamk has joined #haiku[22:47:18] <mmu_man> ok now Vision handles #channelname as clickable links :)[22:47:51] *** zaunpfahl has joined #haiku[22:48:30] <zaunpfahl> can't get haiku to boot from USB stick :([22:48:40] <zaunpfahl> stuck at post screen...[22:49:10] <mmu_man> zaunpfahl how did you install it ?[22:49:22] <mmu_man> you *must* dump to the raw device, *not* the partition[22:49:29] <mmu_man> or else you must run makebootable on it[22:49:29] <zaunpfahl> according to your instructions[22:49:49] <mmu_man> ie. /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1[22:50:00] <zaunpfahl> /dev/sdb[22:50:04] <mmu_man> whichever[22:50:08] <mmu_man> should work then[22:50:57] <zaunpfahl> from where do I issue makebootable?[22:51:23] <mmu_man> if you used sdb you don't need it[22:52:30] *** gzed has joined #haiku[22:53:29] <zaunpfahl> well, my BIOS doesn't like the funky disk structure it creates, apparently[22:54:06] <zaunpfahl> fdisk shows three partitions of unknown types 79, 2e and 5f[22:54:08] <mmu_man> not funky it's just a raw fs[22:54:29] <mmu_man> looks like a broken bios...[22:54:30] <HeTo> well it is funky if the BIOS tries to read the partition table for whatever reason[22:54:37] <mmu_man> it shouldn't try to interpret it[22:55:03] <zaunpfahl> looks like it does :([22:56:01] <CIA-15> stippi * r30591 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (FontManager.cpp FontManager.h):[22:56:01] <CIA-15> * Small style cleanup and some comments added for clarity.[22:56:01] <CIA-15> * FontManager::GetFamily() removed second call to _FindFamily() with no[22:56:01] <CIA-15> action in between -- why would it suddenly work the second time?[22:56:09] <mmu_man> well then you'll need to install to a partition and run makebootable[22:58:02] <zaunpfahl> tried that before, but then haiku bootloader didn't see the OS[22:58:31] <zaunpfahl> found the haiku partition on HD only, which I deleted meanwhile[22:58:36] <HeTo> what makebootable did you run?[22:59:03] <zaunpfahl> o, didn't run makebootable[22:59:18] <zaunpfahl> but got to the haiku bootscreen anyway[23:00:03] <zaunpfahl> but nowhere to go from there[23:00:50] <HeTo> that's weird, are you sure you booted from the usb stick?[23:01:14] <zaunpfahl> sure, no haiku anywhere else[23:01:54] <zaunpfahl> all that works is the bootloader, then I'm stuck[23:02:28] <zaunpfahl> never had a problem with booting from HD partitions[23:07:07] <zaunpfahl> no point cursing Abit for the broken BIOS either - they have gone the way of the dodo[23:08:37] <Disreali> abit's gone? to bad[23:08:45] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[23:09:30] *** lazyking has joined #haiku[23:09:44] <zaunpfahl> gone :([23:11:08] *** lazyking has quit IRC[23:11:22] *** lazyking has joined #haiku[23:13:32] *** lazyking has quit IRC[23:20:05] *** atomozero has quit IRC[23:30:08] <CIA-15> stippi * r30592 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/FontManager.h:[23:30:08] <CIA-15> * Update header indentation[23:30:08] <CIA-15> * Unify pointer style, it was a mix before[23:48:15] *** Rakhun|away has joined #haiku[23:48:22] *** Rakhun has quit IRC[23:49:30] *** wackymacs has quit IRC[23:55:15] *** zaunpfahl has quit IRC[23:56:39] *** Al2O3_ has quit IRC[23:56:57] <stpere> anyone got news of julun?[23:57:17] *** Ingenu has quit IRC