April 24, 2007 
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April 24, 2007 [00:00:12] *** magnetron has joined #haiku[00:02:47] <_hugo> hello everyone[00:02:57] <DaaT> hi[00:03:00] *** MYOB has quit IRC[00:03:03] <dr_evil> hi _hugo[00:03:17] <_hugo> is berlios still down?[00:03:37] <mmu_man> it is, again[00:03:41] <mmu_man> was up an hour ago[00:03:46] <_hugo> oh[00:04:12] * DeadYak pets _hugo[00:04:30] <dr_evil> yes, it was up about for about 6 hours[00:04:59] <_hugo> i can update now[00:05:16] <mmu_man> src/add-ons/media/media-add-ons/dvb/DVBMediaNode.cpp:1142: warning: `bool needs_tuning' might be used uninitialized in this function[00:05:22] <CIA-17> korli * r20785 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/opengl/GLView.cpp: we need view bounds in the window coordinates, they can then be offset with the window bounds for clipping[00:05:32] <mmu_man> looks like it's not down for everyone[00:05:46] <mmu_man> or cia lags[00:05:54] <DeadYak> either that or that's one hell of a lagged commit message :P[00:06:18] <DeadYak> I'm betting on the latter since he asked about ConvertToParent hours ago[00:06:27] <Ingenu> night[00:06:37] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:06:58] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:08:33] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[00:08:38] <CIA-17> korli * r20786 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/opengl/GLRenderer.h: virtualized DirectConnected() and EnableDirectMode()[00:09:57] <korli> definitely working :)[00:11:32] <mmu_man> korli tu as la tv avec la freebox ?[00:11:42][00:11:56][00:12:10] <mmu_man> (en + j'ai pas la v5, ni de tv, donc pas de tnt)[00:12:53] *** santagada has joined #haiku[00:12:55] <korli> mmu_man: tu as un débit trop faible peut être[00:13:09] <mmu_man> non[00:13:16][00:13:21] <korli> tu peux essayer le ping sérénité peut être[00:13:24] <mmu_man> http://aduf.org/viewforum.php?f=21[00:13:39] <mmu_man> http://aduf.org/viewtopic.php?t=80246[00:13:43] <axeld> korli: which IRC app are you using?[00:14:57] <korli> axeld: Konversation[00:15:33] <korli> axeld: why ?[00:15:36] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20787 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/tcp/TCPEndpoint.cpp: transmit our timestamp in network order. Fixes a problem with sending data to Linux and BSD hosts which Travis helped debug. Also only update SRTT when data has been acknowledged.[00:15:54][00:16:00] <axeld> s[00:16:15] *** magnetron has quit IRC[00:16:26] <mmu_man> axeld it's UTF-8[00:16:48] <axeld> mmu_man: but why does it look broken in Vision?[00:16:51] <santagada> axeld: man haiku is not hard enough people have to speak in french on the irc channel[00:16:52] <santagada> :)[00:17:01] <axeld> santagada :-)[00:17:05] <mmu_man> axeld because Vision uses iso latin-1[00:17:20] <axeld> mmu_man: so that's no channel wide IRC setting?[00:17:22] <mmu_man> so it interprets teh bytes as separate latin chars[00:17:31] <santagada> vision is a latin-1 app?[00:17:36] <mmu_man> and it doesn't translate automatically[00:17:44] <axeld> mmu_man: mais c'est stupid[00:17:45] <mmu_man> santagada no but it's set to use latin1 by default[00:18:01] <mmu_man> axeld well it's the default setting, and there is no /channel setting I know[00:18:04] <santagada> oh ok, time to change that default to utf-8[00:18:12] <mmu_man> also, UTF-8 support in Vision was broken last I tried[00:18:17] <mmu_man> just didn't work at all :-([00:18:43] <axeld> mmu_man: blame DeadYak :-)[00:18:44] <mmu_man> plus I'm on some channel with latin-1 integrist ops :-(([00:18:47] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[00:18:50] * mmu_man blames DeadYak :)[00:19:32] <mmu_man> $ echo "sérénité" | hd[00:19:33] <mmu_man> 00000000 73 c3 83 c2 a9 72 c3 83 c2 a9 6e 69 74 c3 83 c2 s....r....nit...[00:19:34] <mmu_man> 00000010 a9 0a[00:19:46] <DeadYak> what did I do? :/[00:19:57] <DeadYak> mmu_man: I fixed that ages ago I thought[00:20:03] <santagada> vision seem much like x-chat[00:20:09] <mmu_man> ah, well didn't try recently[00:20:11] <korli> DeadYak: well tried :)[00:20:13] <CIA-17> axeld * r20788 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/cortex/ (6 files in 2 dirs):[00:20:13] <CIA-17> Some coding style updates by Vasilis Kaoutsis - one step after the other :-)[00:20:13] <CIA-17> Thanks![00:20:14] <DeadYak> mmu_man: that might've been in Zeta's rev[00:20:19] <mmu_man> probably[00:20:25] <DeadYak> it used to use UTF-16 for that[00:20:41] <mmu_man> yes I remember seeing stuff that looked like it[00:20:55] <mmu_man> the server didn't like it at all :)[00:21:35] <mmu_man> should check to see why my install keeps on rebooting but I'm asleep[00:21:39] <mmu_man> maybe tomorro[00:21:43] <mmu_man> n8[00:22:02] <santagada> if someone whant's to port a irc client to haiku, i suggest colloquy[00:22:17] * DaaT pets Vision[00:22:24] * mmu_man pets Vision[00:22:33] <mmu_man> I also ported rhapsody also[00:22:40] <CIA-17> axeld * r20789 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm.cpp: Don't allow creating areas with a size of 0 bytes, courtesy of Vasilis Kaoutsis.[00:22:42] <axeld> night mmu_man[00:22:50] <mmu_man> nice little curses client[00:23:19] <mmu_man> http://freshmeat.net/projects/rhapsody/[00:23:55] <CIA-17> axeld * r20790 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/raw/ (RAW.cpp RAW.h): "Ported" wavelet denoising code from dcraw - not tested, probably won't work yet.[00:25:32] <mmu_man> ok won't do any good tonight and dsl tv is broken again[00:25:34] <mmu_man> n8[00:25:35] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:36:01] <kokito> axeld![00:37:55] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[00:37:58] <axeld> Hi kokito![00:38:57] <kokito> hello axeld. learning French? :P[00:39:36] <axeld> kokito: years ago I did :-)[00:39:52] <axeld> kokito: for like 7 years in school[00:40:36] <kokito> oh, you must be a master in the language then. :P[00:42:25] <axeld> kokito: hehe :-))[00:42:41] *** bga has quit IRC[00:42:50] <axeld> kokito: never was, unfortunately, but I still like the language a lot[00:44:22] <kokito> never liked french for some reason; I find the pronunciation too difficult.[00:44:35] *** pikapika has quit IRC[00:45:14] <axeld> kokito: the pronounciation is almost the best part ;-)[00:46:33] <kokito> axeld: had to study French for two years in elementary school, but could never get the pronunciation right.[00:47:29] <_hugo> i had to learn 3 years of german, wasn't much of an help though, eheh[00:47:37] <korli> kokito: I bet you wouldn't like german also :)[00:49:13] <axeld> Language bashing :-)[00:49:38] <kokito> korli, don't know; learned a few expressions when I was there in 2005 (salat mit brot!), but it did not sound as phonetically difficult as french.[00:49:50] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:50:51] <DaaT> i'd like to learn german[00:51:03] <DaaT> I will, someday[00:52:35] *** oco has quit IRC[00:53:19] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:55:11] <Thom_Holwerda> night all[00:55:14] *** Thom_Holwerda has quit IRC[00:56:12] <MikeW> I did french for 7 years[00:56:26] <MikeW> that was up until 2 years ago[00:56:32] <MikeW> I can't speak any[00:57:07] *** rx_ has joined #haiku[00:58:39] *** rx_ has left #haiku[01:01:25] *** guildencrantz has quit IRC[01:04:59] <kokito> DaaT, ICO down?[01:05:36] <DaaT> it is?[01:05:57] *** whoopsbob has quit IRC[01:06:11] <DaaT> yep, it is[01:06:12] *** bobwhoops has joined #haiku[01:06:13] <DaaT> weir[01:06:14] <DaaT> d[01:06:18] <kokito> can't access from here...[01:06:27] <axeld> neither from here[01:06:35] <DaaT> ah ok[01:06:43] <DaaT> hosting company is doing some network maintenance[01:06:45] <kokito> FF keeps "Waiting for..."[01:06:53] <kokito> ah, ok.[01:08:42] *** santagada has left #haiku[01:10:47] *** fritte has quit IRC[01:17:19] *** korli has quit IRC[01:20:05] <DaaT> ok, it's back up[01:20:11] <DaaT> thx kokito and axeld[01:30:56] *** lumber has joined #haiku[01:31:55] <lumber> Hey guys, I just got Haiku OS installed in virtual and I must say it is impressive. Would it be practical to allocate a bit of harddrive space and install it on a harddisk just to watch development and whatnot?[01:32:30] <lumber> Or is it "not that easy" yet[01:36:51] <gotaku> It's not really ready yet.[01:45:09] <[Beta]> probably easier to play with it in the VM until its more stable. Then you'll have more fun.[02:00:42] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[02:00:53] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[02:01:14] *** Sloar has quit IRC[02:11:48] <kokito> de nada DaaT :)[02:15:22] *** jin has joined #haiku[02:25:47] <jin> hi?[02:34:04] *** ablyss has quit IRC[02:39:05] *** axeld has quit IRC[02:39:52] *** ul1984_ has quit IRC[02:40:40] *** MikeW has quit IRC[02:47:41] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[03:02:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[03:14:14] *** lumber has quit IRC[03:14:53] *** Witukind has joined #haiku[03:14:56] *** stargater has quit IRC[03:21:42] *** DaaT has quit IRC[03:25:52] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:37:48] *** Yez has quit IRC[03:38:44] *** Yez has joined #Haiku[03:40:11] *** Master199 has quit IRC[03:40:12] *** M199 is now known as Master199[03:42:09] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[03:46:13] *** [Nies] has joined #haiku[03:48:18] *** Nies has quit IRC[03:50:24] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[04:05:33] *** gravy has joined #Haiku[04:16:07] <joejaxx> JonathanThompson: are you around? :P[04:23:30] * jin pokes JonathanThompson with a long stick[04:30:13] *** meianoite has joined #haiku[04:30:18] * meianoite w00ts[04:30:39] <meianoite> anyone knows good tuning values for Xeons?[04:31:09] <meianoite> somehow I managed to make them execute the very same binary as a Duron 1600... albeit 3 times slower.[04:31:20] <meianoite> I mean, not the very same binary, but the very same code[04:32:44] <meianoite> fwiw, I'm using -O3 -finline-functions -ffast-math -funroll-loops -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer[04:36:49] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[04:37:04] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[04:37:05] <meianoite> and gcc version 3.3.4 (pre 3.3.5 20040809)[04:37:31] *** jin has quit IRC[04:40:25] *** Anxiety has joined #haiku[04:41:51] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[04:44:44] <joejaxx> umccullough: ! :)[04:45:16] <umccullough> hi joejaxx![04:45:51] <joejaxx> how have you been? :)[04:46:05] *** [Nies] has quit IRC[04:48:33] <umccullough> joejaxx, so so...[04:48:54] <umccullough> joejaxx, i'm getting ready to install ubuntu 7.04 on this machine...[04:48:56] <umccullough> ;)[04:49:05] * umccullough waits for fluxbuntu pitch[04:49:12] <joejaxx> :)[04:49:40] <joejaxx> :P[04:51:05] *** ChrisHJW has joined #haiku[04:51:39] <umccullough> i'm actually just burning the iso now[04:51:51] <joejaxx> nice[04:52:07] <umccullough> i put 6.10 on it last night before I realized 7.04 was out ![04:52:22] <joejaxx> :P[04:52:39] <joejaxx> i am actually running 7.10 alpha[04:52:48] <umccullough> anyhow, bbib[04:52:59] <joejaxx> alright[04:53:01] <joejaxx> :)[05:00:55] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[05:01:28] *** ChristianHJW has quit IRC[05:12:35] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[05:13:56] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[05:13:59] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[05:23:18] *** knoedel has joined #haiku[05:24:59] *** knoedel has quit IRC[05:25:07] <umccullough> ok, off to install[05:25:12] *** petterhj has quit IRC[05:25:53] *** umccullough has quit IRC[05:35:11] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[05:35:59] * SiCuTDeUx_Zz regreso.[05:36:00] *** SiCuTDeUx_Zz is now known as SiCuTDeUx_[05:36:50] *** SiCuTDeUx_ is now known as SiCuTDeUx[06:08:01] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[06:08:40] <SiCuTDeUx> kokito: www.haikudocs.org[06:13:57] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[06:26:41] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[06:32:07] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[06:32:31] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[06:39:36] <umccullough> ah, now i can finally start using linux i think..[06:42:13] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough: :O[06:42:26] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough: what did you do? back up?[06:44:04] <meianoite> hey umccullough[06:44:07] <meianoite> are we still game? :)[06:44:26] <umccullough> meianoite: yeah, i can boot back into windows even if you'd rather i did that[06:44:33] <meianoite> no need to[06:44:36] <meianoite> linux is fine[06:44:43] <umccullough> SiCuTDeUx: just trying to get linux on this box so I can ... avoid windows ;)[06:44:53] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough: nice[06:45:13] <meianoite> umccullough let me know what OS you're running and I'll set things up accordingly[06:45:22] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough: what about the pi client? only works for windows[06:45:40] <umccullough> meianoite: ubuntu 7.04 32bit[06:46:05] <meianoite> SiCuTDeUx I suspect WINE can handle that[06:46:06] <umccullough> SiCuTDeUx: i have so many machines ... it doesn't matter ;)[06:46:20] <meianoite> umccullough you're an environment hazzard ;)[06:46:21] <SiCuTDeUx> :P[06:46:26] <SiCuTDeUx> wine is not that good[06:46:27] <umccullough> piseg isn't on the top of my list anyway :D[06:46:48] <meianoite> SiCuTDeUx, I beg to differ. Wine is fantastic. both the beverage and the API emulator[06:46:58] <meianoite> :)[06:47:13] <umccullough> SiCuTDeUx: wine would probably suffice - the primary calculation logic is probably a tight asm loop anyway[06:47:23] <meianoite> anyway umccullough, you got your GCC toolchain ready there, right?[06:47:30] <umccullough> meianoite: nope[06:47:36] <meianoite> well, get some :)[06:47:42] <umccullough> if it's small, i can get it installed...[06:47:48] * umccullough goes to check[06:47:49] <meianoite> tuning to your particular machine is essential[06:48:05] <meianoite> all I need is GCC + CPP + make[06:50:14] <SiCuTDeUx> OMG my a/c its like a shower...[06:50:15] <SiCuTDeUx> lol[06:50:39] <umccullough> meianoite: looks like it'll be a little bit[06:50:40] <SiCuTDeUx> got to turn it off... to many drops hiting my laptop[06:50:45] <SiCuTDeUx> _thegoodone_[06:50:55] <umccullough> meianoite: i'm gonna just install what i need for haiku dev[06:51:11] <meianoite> unless I'm mistaken, you only need that as well[06:51:12] <meianoite> and jam[06:51:20] <meianoite> and g++, of course.[06:52:24] <umccullough> meianoite: i installed build-essentials, byacc, flex... and something else[06:52:34] <umccullough> forgot svn :([06:52:38] <meianoite> checklist:[06:52:48] <umccullough> need bison also[06:53:13] <meianoite> svn, cvs, gcc, cpp, g++, flex, bison, make[06:53:19] <meianoite> qemu might be a good idea as well[06:53:29] <umccullough> nah, i'll grab vmware[06:53:30] <_hugo> oh noes! let root kit[06:53:31] <umccullough> later[06:53:43] <meianoite> don't get jam, you'll have to use haiku's version anyway[06:53:58] <umccullough> meianoite: i know :)[06:54:27] <umccullough> meianoite: even if it's the first time i'm setting up a linux dev environment - setting up cygwin to build haiku was just as hard, and even worse[06:54:37] <umccullough> unfortunately in the end, it never worked right[06:54:48] <meianoite> _hugo, tens alguma ideia do motivo de um dual xeon HT a 2.8GHz rodar o mesmo diabo de codigo 4x mais lentamente que um ridiculo Duron 1600?[06:56:18] <umccullough> eh... a package failed?[06:56:29] <umccullough> do i need linux-libc-dev?[06:56:31] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[06:56:58] <_hugo> meianoite: bad cache usage?[06:57:14] <meianoite> could be, but I have no idea why[06:57:24] <_hugo> meianoite: how big are your structures?[06:57:29] <meianoite> like I mentioned before, here are the GCC flags I'm using:[06:58:29] <umccullough> o3?[06:58:36] <meianoite> the biggest one is a 40-element array of a structure comprising 4 integers[06:58:50] <_hugo> meianoite: are you using a lot of memory bandwidth?[06:58:53] <meianoite> O3. GCC 3.x[06:59:00] <_hugo> as in copying to/from memory a lot[06:59:08] <umccullough> i'll be gcc 4, btw[06:59:16] <meianoite> I use precisely ZERO memcpy-like instructions[06:59:25] <meianoite> =P[06:59:38] <meianoite> really, I have no idea what's going on.[06:59:57] <_hugo> what kind of access do you have on the array? thats 640 bytes, although i suspect the xeon to have 1024 byte cache lines[07:00:23] <meianoite> either Linux believes it's helping me by transfering the process among CPUs[07:00:28] <meianoite> it's a SMP[07:00:31] <meianoite> with HT enabled[07:00:51] <meianoite> and the access is kind of random...[07:01:06] <meianoite> but currently it's limited to 19 elements out of those 40[07:01:31] <meianoite> I'd be positively surprised if I end up being memory bound here[07:02:28] <meianoite> anyway _hugo, even when there's another array being accessed sequentially, it's *really* slower than the Duron[07:02:33] <meianoite> by a *wide* margin[07:03:30] <_hugo> i went checking on the xeons cache line length and its probably lower than the value i thought[07:03:37] <_hugo> anyway[07:04:02] <_hugo> meianoite: i think you have some kind of issue with memory access. i dont see the xeon being slower[07:04:12] <meianoite> me neither =P[07:04:30] <meianoite> let me try with -O2[07:04:35] <meianoite> it might be the compiler fucking up[07:05:31] <meianoite> is there any shell command to set affinity on SMP linux?[07:05:33] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[07:05:35] <meianoite> or must I really resort to some syscall?[07:06:30] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:06:41] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[07:08:35] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[07:09:20] *** kb7sqi_ has joined #haiku[07:12:33] <meianoite> _hugo, now I tried sched_setaffinity[07:12:53] <meianoite> did me no good =P[07:13:12] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[07:13:26] *** kb7sqi_ has quit IRC[07:13:45] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[07:16:14] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[07:21:18] *** Anxiety has quit IRC[07:21:53] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[07:23:20] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[07:24:40] <SiCuTDeUx> night[07:24:45] * SiCuTDeUx esta away: Ausente por ahora.[07:24:46] *** SiCuTDeUx is now known as SiCuTDeUx_Zz[07:26:03] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[07:26:03] *** meianoite is now known as meianoite|flipfl[07:26:12] *** meianoite|flipfl is now known as meian|flipfloppi[07:26:40] *** meian|flipfloppi is now known as meia|flipfloppin[07:29:01] *** kr1stof has left #haiku[07:48:47] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[07:57:32] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[08:02:06] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[08:09:24] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[08:10:01] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[08:20:36] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[08:22:51] *** ul1984 has joined #haiku[08:23:06] <JonathanThompson> Greetings, Begasus.[08:23:27] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[08:23:47] <Begasus> howdy JonathanThompson[08:24:23] * JonathanThompson grumbles at past apartment complex fraudulently claiming I owe them money and trying to extort it out of me with debt collectors[08:25:14] *** absabs has joined #haiku[08:25:19] <JonathanThompson> If I could get the biayatch that's been in charge of this charged with those charges, I'd be more than willing to pay all the court costs to do so.[08:25:45] <umccullough> bbib[08:25:48] *** umccullough has quit IRC[08:28:30] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[08:28:38] <JonathanThompson> Howdy, umccullough.[08:29:58] <Begasus> wb ;)[08:33:08] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[08:37:38] *** shackan has quit IRC[08:44:34] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[08:48:38] *** avkig has quit IRC[08:53:02] *** ChrisHJW has quit IRC[08:56:39] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[09:09:02] *** avkig has joined #haiku[09:13:42] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[09:15:16] *** steffen_f has joined #haiku[09:16:07] <steffen_f> hi all ..[09:16:40] <steffen_f> has anyone BeOS running on a actual Gigabyte board .. want to buy one ..[09:26:37] <pyCube> only imaginary gigabyte boards[09:38:10] <MYOB> yes, a GA71XE4.... Duron 950.... :P[09:38:49] *** [Nies] has joined #haiku[09:44:02] *** kokito has quit IRC[09:44:18] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[09:47:22] *** petterhj has quit IRC[09:48:08] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[09:51:15] *** Nies_ has joined #haiku[09:56:19] *** [Nies] has quit IRC[10:10:21] *** fritte has joined #haiku[10:12:17] *** M199 has joined #haiku[10:13:14] *** Euver has joined #haiku[10:19:25] *** Master199 has quit IRC[10:19:26] *** M199 is now known as Master199[10:23:01] *** Euver has quit IRC[10:30:27] *** mats has quit IRC[10:30:30] *** mats| has joined #haiku[10:41:28] <raph_ael> hello[10:47:29] <Ingenu> hi[10:52:05] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:52:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[10:55:33] <mmu_man> mphipps still here ?[10:56:14] <mmu_man> ah yes but not on any chan[11:10:42] *** Nies_ has quit IRC[11:17:53] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[11:33:11] *** absabs has quit IRC[12:01:06] *** gotaku has quit IRC[12:01:18] *** Begasus has quit IRC[12:02:28] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[12:05:03] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:12:06] *** bobwhoops has quit IRC[12:12:17] *** bobwhoops has joined #haiku[12:30:23] *** steffen_f has quit IRC[12:46:45] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[12:46:59] <Teknomancer> any SVN experts here ?[12:47:13] <DaaT> hey Teknomancer :)[12:47:20] <Teknomancer> hi DaaT[12:47:27] <Teknomancer> i just managed to get this somehow into "svn status"[12:47:28] <Teknomancer> ? makefile[12:47:31] <Teknomancer> M .[12:47:32] <Teknomancer>[12:47:33] <Teknomancer> :([12:47:57] <Teknomancer> i did $ svn propset svn:ignore *.mproj . ToIgnoreFile.mproj[12:48:00] <Teknomancer> or something :([12:48:16] <DaaT> and no go?[12:48:24] <Teknomancer> it has ignore "."[12:48:28] <Teknomancer> instead of "ToIgnoreFile.mproj"[12:48:54] <Teknomancer> ah svn revert . did it :)[12:49:00] <Teknomancer> now i just want to ignore one file :)[12:49:01] <DaaT> :)[12:54:44] <Begasus> maybe delete the file and checkout again Teknomancer?[12:54:45] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[12:55:01] <Begasus> ah nm ... you got it already ;)[12:55:03] <Teknomancer> Begasus hm, but if i delete and checkout i will need to AGAIN change it[12:55:05] <Teknomancer> :)[12:55:12] <Begasus> hehe[13:04:50] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20791 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/kernel/util/OpenHashTable.h: open addressing self-extending hash table implementation.[13:05:02] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20792 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/slab/ (. Jamfile Slab.cpp Slab.h): added a test Slab implementation to tests/ (including Depot management for SMP scalability). after a bit more of testing this will be added to the kernel (still without VM integration).[13:05:11] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20793 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/Jamfile: added test_slab to tests/system/kernel/Jamfile.[13:21:34] *** bga has joined #haiku[13:21:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bga[13:22:37] *** gotaku has joined #haiku[13:28:47] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[13:41:27] *** MYOB has quit IRC[13:44:25] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:44:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:47:28] <_hugo> meep.[13:52:00] <mmu_man> re[13:52:10] <mmu_man> pool was too crowded, will try later[13:55:30] <mmu_man> ok, let's see if it boots[13:55:31] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:59:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:59:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:59:37] <mmu_man> so, it boots again :)[14:09:35] <mmu_man> hey! no tomato on my laptop![14:09:42] <mmu_man> tshirt is ok but not laptop[14:09:51] <mmu_man> (ravioli)[14:10:54] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[14:14:58] <gravy> quick run it under cold water :p[14:15:36] <mmu_man> lol[14:16:19] <TTRanger> hi mmu_man[14:17:45] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[14:17:46] <mmu_man> plop TTRanger[14:18:17] <TTRanger> plop[14:18:25] *** rcjsuen_ is now known as rcjsuen[14:25:16] <mmu_man> TTRanger did steffen_f call you ?[14:26:02] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[14:28:54] *** gotaku has quit IRC[14:30:28] *** gotaku has joined #haiku[14:31:11] <gotaku> How do I add add a file to the image using a late-image-script?[14:33:35] *** StylusEater_Work has joined #haiku[14:37:23] <Ingenu_> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[14:37:32] <StylusEater_Work> heh?[14:37:35] <Ingenu_> video games programmers suck[14:37:41] <Ingenu_> public class[14:37:44] <Ingenu_> everything public[14:37:54] <Ingenu_> I mean why even bother writing it in C++ then ?[14:37:58] <StylusEater_Work> time to market is an awful force...[14:38:09] <Ingenu_> lack of skill it the real problem[14:38:31] <StylusEater_Work> then teach them sensai[14:38:32] <Ingenu_> people skilled don't suffer much from time to market, except in a little software architecture issues[14:39:05] <Ingenu_> it's not my job, I'm paid to get things done, not correcting the fucking lameness and lack of skills of the other programmers[14:39:22] * Ingenu_ angry[14:39:27] <Teknomancer> private inheritence ?[14:39:55] <Ingenu_> 'ending' class[14:40:02] <Ingenu_> not one up in the hierarchy[14:40:07] <Teknomancer> u mean capping a class from not being derived ?[14:40:12] <Ingenu_> even then it goes against encapsulation[14:40:37] <Ingenu_> that's the final class, the one used, derivating from others[14:40:48] <Teknomancer> yeah i know , so which one are u referring to ?[14:41:17] <Ingenu_> all in fact[14:41:45] <Ingenu_> there are some protected and private data, most likely added sometime between the 1st and 6th version of the game[14:41:54] <Ingenu_> (working on the 7th)[14:42:05] * StylusEater_Work wonders what game you're working on so I don't buy it... :-p[14:42:11] <Ingenu_> there's no sorting whatsoever[14:42:20] <StylusEater_Work> tehe[14:42:36] <Ingenu_> well if you wouldn't by a product based on the code quality, you wouldn't buy many things[14:42:50] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[14:42:58] <Ingenu_> you can skip all EA titles[14:43:08] <Teknomancer> Ingenu_ i dont quite understand what u wanted to have been done :)[14:43:13] * StylusEater_Work doesn't buy sweatshop...he means EA games[14:43:49] <Ingenu_> proper coding practice ?[14:43:56] <Ingenu_> public, protected, private sections[14:44:00] <Ingenu_> data encapsulation[14:44:17] <Ingenu_> nice interface, grouping functions (static, accessors, functions by them)[14:44:19] <StylusEater_Work> yes...those are all great things Igenu_[14:44:24] <Teknomancer> Ingenu_ oh the LOT ? :)[14:44:33] <Ingenu_> all the things that I ALWAYS do[14:44:47] <Teknomancer> well yes accessors that is one thing people ask[14:44:48] <Teknomancer> but why??[14:44:51] *** numbah has quit IRC[14:44:55] <Teknomancer> why not let them manipulate the variable directly[14:45:00] <Teknomancer> they're also lazy to write those functions[14:45:02] <Ingenu_> of course you only write accessors if you need them[14:45:23] <Ingenu_> you just don't write an accessor for every single embedded class data, otherwise you just break encapsulation[14:45:43] <mmu_man> anyone here has a UserBuildConfig that sets the keymap and enables syslog by default ?[14:45:50] * mmu_man lazy to try writing one[14:45:55] <Ingenu_> not me[14:45:58] <Teknomancer> if its like an interface than accessors are better[14:46:36] <Ingenu_> and some people are bright[14:46:37] <Ingenu_> NiPoint3 m_oPositionPoint;[14:46:50] <Ingenu_> I mean, how could I ever think that Position wouldn't be a point ?[14:47:13] <Ingenu_> shrug[14:48:47] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[14:48:50] <Ingenu_> my mind press me to just leave & quit this job like... right now[14:51:04] *** TTRanger has joined #haiku[14:55:21] *** numbah has joined #haiku[14:56:09] <StylusEater_Work> sorry you're having a rough go of it Ingenu_[14:57:16] *** AndrevS has joined #haiku[14:57:55] <Ingenu_> wonder when my ghost is gonna fade...[14:58:06] <[Beta]> cant you ghost it yourself?[14:58:56] <Ingenu_> I was refering to "Ingenu"[14:59:09] <Ingenu_> or Ingenu_[14:59:13] <Ingenu_> rather[14:59:17] <Ingenu_> instead[15:04:27] *** shackan has joined #haiku[15:07:49] *** DaaT has quit IRC[15:09:29] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:09:32] <Teknomancer> l8r all[15:09:39] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[15:09:46] <AndrevS> g2g too[15:09:54] *** AndrevS has quit IRC[15:10:26] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[15:10:30] <Begasus> re[15:16:14] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:16:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:16:39] *** NeonLich1 has joined #haiku[15:17:27] *** arikato has joined #haiku[15:17:53] <mmu_man> so...[15:18:21] <mmu_man> KERN: USB BusManager: error while setting device address[15:18:32] <mmu_man> that's when pluging a webcam in...[15:18:43] <_hugo> so don't plug it![15:18:58] <_hugo> the kernel is always right[15:19:05] <mmu_man> KERN: usb_ehci: pipe change 0 for pipe 0x90b0c5c0[15:19:05] <mmu_man> KERN: usb_ehci: pipe change 0 for pipe 0x90b0c640[15:19:19] <mmu_man> oh, at least it's not as silent as last time[15:20:35] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[15:20:55] <mmu_man> but the usb stack itself is not more verbose[15:21:01] <mmu_man> the DEBUG=1 didn't work[15:23:56] *** NeonLicht has quit IRC[15:25:12] <gotaku> Why isn't my late image script running...[15:27:25] <gotaku> Oh, it is :)[15:29:48] *** stargater has joined #haiku[15:29:51] <stargater> hi[15:32:05] <gotaku> hello[15:39:13] <stargater> http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/[15:42:54] <gotaku> stargater: Don't get your hopes up.[15:43:10] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[15:48:22] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[15:51:48] <stargater> :-)[15:51:56] <gotaku> What does : mean when used $cp uses it in a late image script?[15:53:31] <gotaku> Or rather, ${sPrefix} which is :[15:53:37] <stargater> ka[15:54:04] <stargater> bbl[15:55:59] *** rcjsuen_ is now known as rcjsuen[15:56:55] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[15:58:17] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[15:59:07] *** guildencrantz has joined #haiku[15:59:17] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[16:02:22] *** jiuda_D`arkness has joined #haiku[16:04:32] <CIA-17> axeld * r20794 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/devfs.cpp: Added a debugging command "devfs_node" to dump infos about the private devfs nodes for now.[16:14:15] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[16:14:50] <CIA-17> axeld * r20795 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/filetypes/AttributeWindow.cpp: Must check if the "Ok" button can be enabled after a "display as" type has been chosen.[16:16:17] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[16:16:26] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[16:19:30] *** rcjsuen_ is now known as rcjsuen[16:31:35] *** axeld 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:-)[17:03:05] <gotaku> Who haiku just rebooted on my while trying to compile HelloWorld[17:03:10] <gotaku> wow[17:03:39] *** Begasus has quit IRC[17:03:56] <[Beta]> gotaku, :)[17:04:30] <gotaku> What does sync do?[17:04:49] <[Beta]> writes all pending data to disk, iirc.[17:04:50] <gotaku> (After the reboot all the files I unzipped are gone)[17:04:56] <[Beta]> basically sync the cache to the fs[17:07:07] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:08:57] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[17:09:33] *** jspiros has quit IRC[17:18:55] *** stargater has quit IRC[17:21:41] <TTRanger> There are no images yet for Haiku yet, right? No way for someone like me to install/try it?[17:21:51] <TTRanger> Nothing on the web site that I can find...[17:23:08] *** meia|flipfloppin has quit IRC[17:24:01] <Ingenu_> not yet[17:24:08] <Ingenu_> well there's an unofficial release[17:24:12] <Ingenu_> didn't work on my pc[17:24:17] *** Begasus has quit IRC[17:24:21] <Ingenu_> that said latest ubuntu doesn't work on my pc either[17:24:30] <Ingenu_> only windows vista manage to work (maybe earlier versions too)[17:26:15] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:28:46] *** umccullough has left #haiku[17:35:08] <TTRanger> Ingenu_ My PC seems to be doing pretty well in the compatibility dept. I have ZETA on it and it runs fine. Am presently running BeOS Max and it's fine. And the other day, I installed a version of Linux on this one and it worked ok. But my goodness, that was my first look at Linux and it seems realy convoluted and obscure once you get past the pretty desktop.[17:37:28] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:41:13] <TTRanger> Ingenu_ If I wanted to try the unofficial release, how would I do it?[17:41:55] <Sil2100> You're looking for a pre-build image of Haiku?[17:41:56] <Ingenu_> I see[17:44:49] <TTRanger> I guess I'm asking for something I shouldn't, ok disregard, sorry.[17:46:15] <[Beta]> anyone happily used physfs in BeOS ?[17:46:48] <[Beta]> TTRanger, if you have vmware or qemu, you can easily download an image to use. Is that what you're looking for ?[17:47:56] <[Beta]> http://www.haikuhost.com/ for those.[17:53:01] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[17:53:09] <SiCuTDeUx> any news from bernd?, zeta? magnussoft?, access?[17:53:20] <Lelldorin1> hello all[17:53:22] <[Beta]> nope.[17:53:51] <SiCuTDeUx> they are so quiet...[17:53:56] <SiCuTDeUx> all of them...[17:54:03] <[Beta]> rightly so, Bernd has vanished.[17:58:29] *** ablyss has quit IRC[17:58:30] *** MauriceK has joined #haiku[17:58:50] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[17:59:27] *** ablyss has left #haiku[18:00:02] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[18:00:45] *** santagada has joined #haiku[18:06:10] <gotaku> How can I print messages to the serial port from a bash script?[18:07:50] <geist> is there a /dev/dprintf?[18:10:36] *** santagada has quit IRC[18:14:48] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20796 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/tcp/TCPEndpoint.cpp: fixed an issue where a TCP connection would fail if the first expected segment of data was lost. Reported by Axel.[18:15:10] <axeld> geist: yes there is[18:15:15] <axeld> Hi geist :-)[18:16:53] <geist> yo[18:21:25] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[18:22:41] *** MauriceK_ has joined #haiku[18:23:31] *** MauriceK_ has quit IRC[18:24:17] <gotaku> I wonder why my UserBootscript isn't running correctly...[18:24:24] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[18:28:15] <gotaku> axeld: What the process of trying to debug the kernel?[18:29:46] *** Thom_Holwerda has joined #haiku[18:31:32] *** MauriceK_ has joined #haiku[18:32:52] <axeld> gotaku: you mean if I make any progress?[18:33:49] <gotaku> axeld: I'm asking if you have a repeatable kernel bug, what is the process you go through to find out what's wrong.[18:35:00] *** Ingenu_ has quit IRC[18:35:42] <axeld> gotaku: that depends on the bug. Mostly I would try to add more debug output to see where the problem appears[18:38:17] *** santagada has joined #haiku[18:40:59] *** MauriceK has quit IRC[18:41:51] <gotaku> Can someone confirm for me that calling Terminal from a Userbootscript fails and now other Terminal will launch.[18:42:07] <gotaku> no other Terminal rather[18:43:27] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[18:43:44] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[18:44:52] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[18:47:02] <axeld> gotaku: looks very much like it[18:48:04] <axeld> gotaku: they both run, but neither of them gets to open a window[18:48:14] <axeld> gotaku: when you manually kill them, you can open new ones again[18:48:24] <axeld> gotaku: I open a bug report for it, thanks[18:48:46] <gotaku> Seems to be a lot of problems with the Terminal.[18:49:08] <gotaku> Or at least involving the Terminal.[18:50:10] <Begasus> axeld is the isseu with laptop keyboards been looked into?[18:50:27] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[18:50:28] <Begasus> howdy btw ;)[18:50:54] <axeld> Begasus: what issue?[18:52:24] <Begasus> that I can't use it ....[18:52:24] <Begasus> mailed to the mailinglist a while ago[18:52:51] <Begasus> need to hook up a usb keyboard to be do some typing[18:52:52] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[18:53:22] <axeld> Begasus: ah, I dunno, that's Marcus topic - do you also have opened a bug report for this?[18:54:42] <Begasus> not me .. .but I was under the impression that there already was a ticket for it ...[18:54:58] <axeld> there might, I dunno[18:55:21] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[18:55:48] <axeld> Begasus: if dr_evil shows up, you can best ask him about that[18:56:31] <Begasus> will check again later if the prob still is there ... if so I'll try to report it ;)[18:56:31] <Begasus> ah k thnx[18:56:56] *** Sloar has joined #haiku[18:58:52] *** gotaku has quit IRC[19:00:40] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[19:01:04] *** Sloar has quit IRC[19:01:47] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:04:21] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:08:23] *** Andre_Linux has joined #haiku[19:09:40] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[19:11:44] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[19:19:36] *** MikeW has quit IRC[19:21:14] *** santagada has left #haiku[19:25:05] <TTRanger> procton[19:27:07] *** kokito has joined #haiku[19:27:22] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:27:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[19:30:56] <DaaT> kokito! mmu_man![19:32:50] <Begasus> hi kokito ;)[19:33:04] <kokito> hey DaaT & Begasus[19:35:15] *** Euver has joined #haiku[19:35:44] <mmu_man> plop[19:36:00] *** stargater has joined #haiku[19:36:06] <stargater> re[19:36:25] <Andre_Linux> wb[19:36:43] <stargater> jop[19:37:56] <CIA-17> korli * r20797 /haiku/trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)[19:37:56] <CIA-17> GLView :[19:37:56] <CIA-17> window_bounds are now coordinates of the view on the screen (was the window before)[19:37:56] <CIA-17> this eases dramatically the drawing of the clip from the buffer[19:37:56] <CIA-17> now allocates m_clip_info whenever needed as some apps call EnableDirectMode() after DirectConnected(), ie GLTeapot.[19:37:56] <CIA-17> MesaSoftwareRenderer:[19:38:00] <CIA-17> implemented DirectConnected() support in Mesa Software Renderer[19:40:16] *** gotaku has joined #haiku[19:41:41] <Yez> CIA-17 will this help the AtomoCAD dev with the problems he mentioned on his website?[19:43:35] <Thom_Holwerda> i personally dont think CIA-17 will answer your question.[19:43:40] <Thom_Holwerda> just a hunch, though ;)[19:43:54] <Yez> kinda figured as much[19:45:30] <Begasus> hi Andre_Linux ;)[19:45:39] <Andre_Linux> hey Begasus[19:45:50] <Begasus> mv to the dark side? ;)[19:45:50] <Begasus> 'lo Thom_Holwerda[19:46:10] <Thom_Holwerda> 'navond Begasus[19:46:50] <Begasus> nog een landgenoot van je Thom_Holwerda ;)[19:47:10] <Thom_Holwerda> i actually knew that[19:47:11] <Begasus> maar het is wel een 'Limburger' :D[19:47:15] <Thom_Holwerda> oooh telt niet[19:47:16] <Thom_Holwerda> :P[19:47:34] <Thom_Holwerda> i love to tease my friends from limburg with that :D[19:47:50] <Begasus> stargater already downloaded the sources for PhotoGrabber?[19:48:19] <Andre_Linux> hey Thom_Holwerda[19:48:24] <Thom_Holwerda> hi[19:48:24] <stargater> Begasus: i dont now who, where the source are is[19:48:47] <stargater> CIA-17: is haiku ready for a Beta version ?[19:48:50] <Begasus> hehe[19:48:50] <Begasus> Limburg boven!!! :D[19:48:57] * stargater think CIA-17 is a ORACLE[19:49:00] <Andre_Linux> :)[19:49:10] <Begasus> over at osdrawer stargater[19:49:34] <stargater> mom i will look[19:50:30] <Begasus> but I checked earlier in R5 ... quiet a lot of errors atm ... Jixt will look at it though[19:50:42] <gotaku> Heh, in my daily search for reference to Haiku on Googles blog search I found this: http://lucky13.blogsavy.com/2007/04/24/haiku-insecurity/[19:50:42] <stargater> Begasus: ===> This Project Has Not Released Any Files[19:50:46] <gotaku> ;P[19:51:11] <stargater> Begasus: i think this is intern[19:51:27] <Begasus> lag is to high on this laptop to be heavy surfing ...[19:52:00] <stargater> Begasus: you are in OS?[19:52:11] <Begasus> sec stargater ...[19:53:05] <Begasus> ZETA stargater ...[19:53:24] <stargater> :([19:53:28] <Begasus> svn checkout svn://svn.osdrawer.net/svnroot/photograbber[19:53:58] <stargater> Thom_Holwerda: you are read this ? http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/[19:54:19] <Thom_Holwerda> stargater: can you spell S C A M[19:54:30] <Begasus> http://dev.osdrawer.net/scm/?group_id=25[19:54:30] <Begasus> that should be the link I think[19:54:36] <Thom_Holwerda> they ditched the caps and the nigerian banker[19:54:39] <Thom_Holwerda> but the concept is the same[19:55:19] <Thom_Holwerda> they promise the world[19:55:35] <Thom_Holwerda> but they do need 50usd (or something) for you to have access to that promised world[19:57:24] <stargater> :-)[19:57:47] <Yez> interesting, you have to have a login to write comments to Lucky13 but there is no place to register. Obviously, this poor guy can't see further than the nose on his face.[20:01:33] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:02:21] <DeadYak> I don't see it asking money any where[20:02:25] <DeadYak> mt[20:04:57] <DaaT> on the subject of asking for money :P anyone wants to buy a Fuji camera? I'm selling mine :)[20:07:15] <DeadYak> a Fuji camera shipped straight from Nigeria? :)[20:07:18] * DeadYak ducks[20:07:22] * DaaT slaps DeadYak[20:07:24] <DaaT> :)[20:07:29] <DaaT> from Cameroon![20:08:10] <Begasus> lol[20:10:56] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:13:20] *** rgb has joined #haiku[20:24:53] <kokito> mmu_man![20:25:01] <mmu_man> re[20:30:33] *** santagada has joined #haiku[20:30:47] <mmu_man> http://www.haiku-security.com rotfl[20:31:22] *** rgb has quit IRC[20:31:27] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[20:32:01] <[Beta]> mmu_man, that site's been around a while :P[20:32:25] <[Beta]> cant wait for the "installing SELinux on Haiku" article![20:32:53] <mmu_man> lol[20:34:50] <gotaku> How would you go about debugging page faults?[20:36:24] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[20:36:38] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:36:51] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[20:36:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[20:37:16] <dr_evil> good evening[20:37:21] <[Beta]> lo[20:37:47] <emitrax> hi[20:37:58] <shackan> mmadia, WTF ??[20:38:04] <shackan> errr, mmu_man[20:39:23] <gotaku> Wow I have 2MB of bfs general system errors in my serial port file.[20:39:38] <[Beta]> bfs hates you[20:39:56] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[20:40:19] <dr_evil> hi axeld[20:41:11] <Begasus> hi dr_evil[20:41:31] <Begasus> dr_evil ... did you see the post I made a while back about not being able to use the keyboard on the laptop in the mailinglist?[20:41:51] <Begasus> latest build I try'd had the same thing (last week)[20:41:52] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[20:42:35] <dr_evil> I can't repoduce this ps2 (partitially) not working problems at all. works fine here, someone else will have to debug this[20:43:03] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[20:43:05] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[20:43:21] <siarzhuk> what about ps2?[20:43:43] <dr_evil> i was talking to Begasus[20:43:46] <Begasus> k .. so it's known?[20:44:10] <Begasus> no need to file a bug report then ...[20:44:14] <dr_evil> I don't know if there is any open bug report[20:44:30] <Begasus> internal keyboard on the laptop refuses service siarzhuk[20:44:30] <Begasus> need to hook up a usb keyboard to type[20:44:41] <siarzhuk> i have the same[20:44:44] <siarzhuk> problem.[20:45:03] <siarzhuk> neither keyboard nor touchpad on ps2 bus working[20:45:15] <siarzhuk> external ps2 keyboard is also not functional.[20:45:23] <siarzhuk> but external ps mouse working.[20:45:26] <dr_evil> and please don't reopen any older bug reports, those bugs were fixed. file a new report if required[20:45:30] <Begasus> how could one find out/add one?[20:45:30] <Begasus> you too?[20:45:30] <Begasus> so I'm not alone ;)[20:45:48] <Begasus> native install siarzhuk?[20:45:49] <siarzhuk> AFAIR ticket 155 was about same problem[20:46:01] <siarzhuk> yes. build current tree[20:46:08] <dr_evil> stop fucking with ticket 155[20:46:30] <Begasus> thought there was some ticket mentioning it ...[20:46:33] <siarzhuk> I have the same problem about months[20:49:04] <dr_evil> so, in order to get this fixed (if possible) submit a new bug report, attach syslog data, then remove usb drivers/bus manager, and attach another syslog[20:49:34] <siarzhuk> should we to activate extra debuuging/logging options?[20:50:16] <dr_evil> probably, let me check[20:51:13] <siarzhuk> Begasus are you going to write the bug report about this?[20:51:46] <Begasus> if you are able you can go ahead siarzhuk ..[20:51:50] <dr_evil> http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/haiku/haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/ps2/ps2_common.h?rev=20357&view=markup[20:51:51] <Begasus> I'll back you up ;)[20:51:57] <dr_evil> change #if 0 into #if 1[20:52:15] <dr_evil> please make to independant bug reports[20:52:21] <Begasus> the nic in this laptop is a bit buggy too ...[20:52:28] <Begasus> two independent dr_evil?[20:52:56] <dr_evil> yes, because it's different hardware, should be easier that way[20:52:57] <siarzhuk> dr_evil OK.[20:53:31] <Begasus> k .. I'll try my best ;)[20:53:50] <Begasus> will download a rescent build to make sure it's not resolved in the meantime ...[20:54:47] <siarzhuk> dr_evil are there any lister for ps2 bus? I mean the thing like listdev for PCI/ISA.[20:55:12] <siarzhuk> I think it is a good idea to provide some info about my hardware[20:56:02] <Begasus> should we rebuild the ps2 driver also to check?[20:56:18] <Begasus> haven't done any Haiku builds since openbeos :))[20:57:09] <dr_evil> siarzhuk no there isn't[20:57:17] <dr_evil> Begasus only the bus manager[20:57:37] <Begasus> the one with the link you provided right?[20:58:06] <siarzhuk> Begasus does your laptop have the tocuhpad or something like it? does it work?[20:58:24] <Begasus> haven't checked the touchpad siarzhuk[20:58:33] <dr_evil> yes, just change that file and rebuild haiku[20:58:35] <Begasus> as I could use the mouse ... will check later also[20:59:03] <siarzhuk> do you use usb mouse? my ps2 external mouse works[20:59:10] <Begasus> usb mouse[21:01:20] *** tgzuiop has joined #haiku[21:02:15] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[21:02:16] *** tgzuiop is now known as dr_evil[21:02:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[21:02:59] <gotaku> How do you bring up the boot options menu?[21:03:22] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[21:03:25] <Begasus> hitting space on boot[21:03:42] <Begasus> that is if you have acces to your keyboard 0_o[21:03:50] <Begasus> ;)[21:03:59] <gotaku> Thanks.[21:04:25] <dr_evil> well, I do Begasus[21:04:35] *** Andre_Linux has quit IRC[21:04:47] <Begasus> on boot I still have acces to the keyboard ;)[21:04:53] <MikeW> Guys, does haiku parallelise items on startup?[21:05:01] <dr_evil> MikeW no[21:05:24] <Begasus> k ... checked out the ps2 busmanager ....[21:05:28] <MikeW> dr_evil: Will it?[21:05:42] <MikeW> I really hate the slowness of a linux boot. One thing starting at a time, slowly[21:05:57] <Begasus> now I need to find out how to compile the stuff ;)[21:06:21] <mmu_man> MikeW some stuff must be started before others, but most are launched asynchronously[21:06:44] <MikeW> snoozie snoozie :)[21:07:03] <MikeW> well launching async is good[21:07:12] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[21:07:23] <dr_evil> Begasus err well, I don't have time to help with that. create bug reports please[21:07:41] <Begasus> np .. I'll sort it out dr_evil[21:07:47] <Begasus> thnx for the help so far[21:09:06] <dr_evil> I can attach a modified bus manager to the bug report, if you can't compile it[21:09:08] <gotaku> Damn page faults...[21:09:16] *** Begas_ has joined #haiku[21:09:27] <dr_evil> I can attach a modified bus manager to the bug report, if you can't compile it[21:09:50] <gotaku> Why do these page faults happen at such random times?[21:09:58] <Begas_> plop[21:10:04] <Begas_> system is a bit low on recources atm it seems at the laptop[21:10:06] <Begas_> thnx for the help so far dr_evil[21:10:11] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[21:11:47] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[21:12:35] *** Begasus has quit IRC[21:12:54] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[21:13:34] *** FinnB has joined #haiku[21:20:40] *** pikapika has joined #haiku[21:21:07] *** ChrisHJW has joined #haiku[21:21:08] <dr_evil> how long is the time a snooze(1) (10) (50) would wait?[21:21:09] *** oco has quit IRC[21:22:34] <bga> dr_evil: ms?[21:22:45] <pikapika> hello[21:22:59] <dr_evil> hi bga[21:23:47] <dr_evil> well, basically I would like to know the delay that snooze(1) (1 usec) usually created[21:23:56] <dr_evil> also for 10 and 50 usec[21:24:21] <bga> Ah, no idea.[21:24:33] <bga> lots of overhead involved for really small values.[21:25:01] <dr_evil> yes I know[21:25:41] <axeld> Maybe we should change this, but right now, it would create a timer with that value, and will wait until that timer goes off[21:25:54] <axeld> when that happens, the thread will be put back into the run queue[21:26:15] <axeld> In that regard, it's similar to a thread_yield(), but with more overhead[21:26:33] <gotaku> Trying to unzip the devtools seems to pagefault 80% of the time :([21:26:58] <dr_evil> ok thanks so far axeld[21:27:01] <MYOB> under Haiku?[21:27:12] <gotaku> Yes.[21:27:14] <MYOB> if its happen on BeOS, you likely have very bad RAM[21:27:15] <dr_evil> btw, did you look into the crtl+c problem with the test driver write hook?[21:27:26] <axeld> gotaku: no one claims it's stable yet :-)[21:27:35] <dr_evil> gotaku do you have more than 256MB RAM?[21:27:58] <dr_evil> gotaku and is that on BeOS or haiku?[21:28:19] <gotaku> Haiku running in Vmware with 256MB of ram[21:28:21] <axeld> dr_evil: no, I forgot about that, will do that now[21:28:26] <MYOB> theres no way to install to HDD without BeOS/Zeta yet is there?[21:29:20] <kokito> axeld & dr_evil![21:29:29] <gotaku> MYOB I just used dd to copy the image to a partition.[21:29:39] <axeld> Hi kokito![21:30:02] <MYOB> somewhat hard when:[21:30:05] <axeld> MYOB: sure, it's just not that convenient :-)[21:30:06] <MYOB> the partition is bigger than the image[21:30:12] <MYOB> the machine is running Window[21:30:31] <MYOB> and you've not got a way of installing bootman[21:30:32] <axeld> ah, Windows :-)[21:30:35] <gotaku> The partition being larger then the image doesn't matter.[21:30:49] <MYOB> well, it does in the "not being able to use the full space" regard[21:31:37] <gotaku> Then use UserBuildConfig to make a larger one.[21:31:47] <gotaku> If you were running Linux...[21:32:02] <Begasus> siarzhuk .. could you mail me a compiled version for the busmanager if you can compile it ....[21:32:05] <MYOB> once it exceeds a certain size it becomes somewhat unweildy to move around[21:32:34] <Begasus> only downloading the source for the busmanager isn't enough to get the source to compile here ....[21:32:49] <gotaku> axeld: How do you debug a page fault problem like this?[21:33:07] <axeld> gotaku: like what?[21:33:24] <siarzhuk> Begasus currently building it. your e-mail?[21:33:35] <gotaku> axeld: Like the one I am getting.[21:33:46] <Begasus> begasus at gmail dot com siarzhuk[21:33:48] <axeld> gotaku: well, I have no idea which one you're getting :-)[21:33:51] <Begasus> thnx in advance ;)[21:34:13] <Begasus> should get a build system get up in the future ;)[21:35:22] <gotaku> axeld: Then let me rephrase... How do you debug page fault problems generally.[21:35:39] <MYOB> as far as I can tell Haiku can see the IDE drives on my laptop, whereas Haiku/Zeta can't[21:35:47] <MYOB> erm, BeOS/Zeta*[21:36:12] <dr_evil> axeld using the test driver to debug the free hook problem failed, even after adding a couple of additional stuff. going back to cx23882 on the slow machine :/[21:36:13] *** kr1stof_ has joined #haiku[21:38:33] <siarzhuk> Begasus have sent it[21:38:42] <JonathanThompson> .me notes it's good eating tacos with hot sauce hot enough to leave the skin around the outside of your mouth burning for several minutes after[21:39:38] *** MrRagga has joined #haiku[21:42:34] <Begasus> k thnx siarzhuk![21:43:45] *** tgzuiop has joined #haiku[21:45:35] <axeld> gotaku: find out where it happens (ie. via the "sc" command), find out why it happens[21:45:59] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[21:46:37] <DeadYak> JonathanThompson: yay for tacos of doom[21:46:38] <axeld> dr_evil: I can at least reproduce the CTRL-C problem with the test driver :-)[21:46:41] <kokito> urnenfeld!!![21:47:04] <tgzuiop> axeld well thats good )[21:47:26] * kokito is amazed at seeing 84 people here[21:47:41] <MYOB> kokito hasn't been like this since the /.'ing[21:47:44] <Begasus> arived siarzhuk thnx ;)[21:47:54] <MYOB> and a good, erm, 30 of the 100+ then were trolls, idiots, or trolling idiots ;)[21:48:02] <kokito> LOL[21:48:19] <Begasus> there's 2 of me in kokito .. so that's one less ;)[21:48:44] *** meianoite has joined #haiku[21:48:45] <gotaku> And 90% never talk.[21:48:53] <stargater> ho meianoite[21:48:54] <Begasus> hehe[21:49:19] <stargater> kokito: hai ku[21:49:45] <DaaT> Begasus IN kokito? eeewwwwwwwww[21:50:17] <DeadYak> ......[21:50:18] * Begasus slaps DaaT[21:50:20] <gotaku> I'm wondering if development went a little too fast in the early days...[21:50:23] <Begasus> you'll never learn ... :p[21:50:31] <DaaT> what? you wrote it!!![21:50:32] <DaaT> :)[21:50:37] * kokito is not sure what DaaT means, but it does not sound right[21:50:46] <Begasus> you twist it !![21:50:53] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[21:51:00] <Begasus> :p[21:51:02] <DaaT> i twisted nothing, my hands are in plain sight[21:51:18] *** rgb has joined #haiku[21:51:33] <Begasus> that's already enough for you ... <eg>[21:51:36] <Begasus> hi rgb[21:51:46] * DaaT whistles[21:51:53] <Begasus> still visiting I see ;)[21:52:08] <FinnB> Hi all. Back again with another question :-)[21:52:12] * Begasus tries to watch out what he writes ...[21:52:21] <DaaT> lol[21:52:22] <FinnB> Does anyone here have "flex" for R5 and can send it to me? Tried compiling it from source but didn't succeed (original src as well from local Haiku repository).[21:53:02] <meianoite> hey stargater[21:53:22] <gotaku> Getting Haiku to compile itself should be a major goal... but it doesn't seem to be :([21:54:27] <Begasus> so booting into Haiku[21:54:31] *** Begasus has quit IRC[21:55:20] *** siarzhuk has quit IRC[21:55:23] <bga> axeld: Accept it...[21:55:40] <bga> And that reminds me I have to send you the pictures from our US trip.[21:55:41] <axeld> bga: I did, but it doesn't start :-/[21:55:47] <axeld> bga: oh yes, please :-)[21:55:52] <tgzuiop> cx23882: driver open, success cookie 0x90b80320[21:56:08] <bga> axeld: I will just email it to you. Wait.[21:56:13] <tgzuiop> and after killing media_addon_server, I get[21:56:14] <tgzuiop> cx23882: driver close, cookie 0x90b80320[21:56:25] <tgzuiop> but no call to free hook[21:56:36] <axeld> tgzuiop: you have that hardware, too?[21:56:37] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[21:56:39] *** tgzuiop is now known as dr_evil[21:56:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[21:56:43] <bga> axeld: Sent. Check your email. :P[21:56:47] <axeld> dr_evil: ah, okay :-)[21:56:50] <dr_evil> nickchange :)[21:57:18] <dr_evil> axeld any idea how to debug that?[21:57:35] <axeld> bga: so you preferred to keep it local, right? :-)[21:58:03] <bga> axeld: Exactly! less headaches. ;)[21:58:31] <axeld> dr_evil: when I thought I could reproduce the problem, I dropped into the kernel debugger to see how many refs/open count that vnode had[21:58:46] <axeld> dr_evil: and the FD, too[21:58:51] <dr_evil> ok, I just removed usb bus manager & rebooting...[21:59:14] <dr_evil> axeld which commands?[21:59:28] <axeld> dr_evil: just find out which one the media_addon_server is (ie. 123), do a "io_context 123" to get the FDs[21:59:49] <CIA-17> stippi * r20798 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/audio.super: * created vector icon[21:59:55] <axeld> dr_evil: I also added a devfs_node command to get info from the devfs[22:00:43] <dr_evil> I noticed, but using that will require a major recompile[22:01:13] <axeld> dr_evil: just do a "jam update-install kernel_x86"[22:01:25] <axeld> dr_evil: that will only update the kernel[22:01:35] *** _urnenfeld has joined #haiku[22:01:55] <axeld> dr_evil: when you previously have a look at /dev/dvb/whatever and you know the inode number, that will be enough, too[22:01:56] <_urnenfeld> hi kokito[22:02:08] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[22:02:14] <kokito> hola colega :)[22:02:31] *** dane__ has joined #Haiku[22:02:43] <axeld> bga: she looks nice though :-)[22:02:58] <gotaku> Now I'm getting a "cannot execute binary file" when trying to run gcc... I was able to run it fine before I rebooted.[22:03:31] <dr_evil> axel dcc chat please[22:05:05] <axeld> dr_evil: I think I found the problem :-)[22:05:25] <axeld> dr_evil: "echo" doesn't let interrupt itself[22:05:39] <dr_evil> how is that possible?[22:05:57] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:06:00] <axeld> with signal()?[22:06:18] <axeld> It's probably a built-in shell command[22:06:33] <dr_evil> thats really ugly[22:06:35] *** oco2 has quit IRC[22:07:01] <axeld> dr_evil: when I use /bin/echo ... I can easily interrupt it[22:07:04] *** MYOB has quit IRC[22:07:09] <axeld> dr_evil: the kernel also delivers the signal[22:07:14] <dr_evil> ok[22:07:16] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[22:07:17] <axeld> dr_evil: it just seems to be ignored[22:07:18] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:07:39] <dr_evil> ok fine with me[22:08:03] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[22:09:27] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[22:10:58] *** _urnenfeld is now known as urnenfeld[22:13:11] *** ul1984_ has joined #haiku[22:13:19] <gotaku> Why does the perspective in some of the icons look slightly off?[22:16:02] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[22:23:06] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[22:23:36] *** ul1984 has quit IRC[22:26:29] <Begasus> re siarzhuk[22:26:33] <Begasus> and?[22:26:37] <Begasus> no luck here ....[22:27:29] <siarzhuk> doesn't load?[22:28:02] <Begasus> still can't use the keyboard[22:28:44] <Begasus> replaced the ps2 busmanager and then rebooted ...[22:29:16] <siarzhuk> ha-ha... it was just enabled extra debug output... you should attach the syslog with this info to your bug report[22:30:22] <Begasus> the syslog is attached to the bug report[22:30:30] <Begasus> actualy 2 files are ...[22:30:51] <Begasus> first from the normal boot and second with the busmanager you mailed me[22:31:35] <Begasus> well ... if nothing else they only need to check the second syslog then ;)[22:35:37] *** Witukind has quit IRC[22:36:15] *** Begas_ has quit IRC[22:36:51] <siarzhuk> But there is something strange on my system : I have activated syslog_debug_output in kernel settings but there is nothing in /var/log/syslog. Need to configure something else? Hm - this feature worked for me years long but today evening - no. :-)[22:37:15] <Begasus> did you set it to 'true'?[22:37:22] <Begasus> as it is default 'false'[22:38:05] *** MrRagga has quit IRC[22:38:21] <Begasus> syslog_debug_output true[22:38:37] <siarzhuk> of cource... ;-)[22:38:43] <Begasus> ;)[22:39:08] <Begasus> well ... I needed to change that so ... :)[22:39:21] <Begasus> could very easely be overlooked ...[22:39:58] *** siarzhuk has quit IRC[22:41:49] *** rgb has quit IRC[22:42:24] <FinnB> Does anyone here have "flex" for R5 and can send it to me? I tried to compile it from source but didn't succeed (original src as well from local Haiku repository).[22:42:41] <Begasus> not me FinnB[22:42:51] <Begasus> going down here ...[22:43:00] <Begasus> a litle bit off tv ...[22:43:12] <Begasus> cya'll[22:43:23] <FinnB> Hi Begasus; thanks.[22:43:40] <Begasus> np good luck ;)[22:44:54] *** StylusEater_Work has left #haiku[22:45:05] *** Begasus has quit IRC[22:45:22] *** ekdahl has left #haiku[22:48:24] *** Euver has quit IRC[22:49:54] *** the_webers_inc has joined #haiku[22:50:24] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:50:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[22:52:08] <mmadia> FinnB still need it ?[22:52:16] *** gotaku has quit IRC[22:53:18] <FinnB> mmadia: Yes. Transfer does not start as it seems? "Connecting to sender." Maybe firewall problem.[22:53:28] <mmadia> probably.[22:53:41] <FinnB> mmadia: Could you send it to "beos at bastiansen dot de"?[22:53:50] <FinnB> That would be nice.[22:54:01] <mmadia> sure. want the diffs and src archives too?[22:55:08] <FinnB> Yes, why not. I only need the binary, but it could be interesting :-) So you could send it all. Thanks :-)[22:56:14] *** bga has quit IRC[22:58:45] <mmadia> sent.[23:00:23] <CIA-17> jackburton * r20799 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Window.cpp:[23:00:23] <CIA-17> If there's a opened menu, the window should "eat" the B_MOUSE_DOWN[23:00:23] <CIA-17> message. This fixes bug #582 and now menus behave like on beos (or[23:00:23] <CIA-17> should, at least)[23:00:51] *** jspiros has joined #haiku[23:01:10] *** FinnB has quit IRC[23:04:09][23:04:12] <Ingenu> ![23:04:20] <mmadia> n8[23:04:36] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:06:55] *** emitrax has quit IRC[23:09:46] *** tgzuiop has joined #haiku[23:10:46] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[23:10:48] *** tgzuiop is now known as dr_evil[23:10:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[23:13:49] <mmu_man> tgzuiop, didn't know this layout =)[23:18:59] *** ajupiter has joined #haiku[23:20:11] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[23:23:46] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[23:24:48] <ajupiter> When i try to build Haiku should i be getting 800+ objects that error out of compiling?[23:25:17] <shackan> definitely not[23:26:40] <axeld> ajupiter: if you do a simple "jam" instead of a "jam haiku-image" or "jam install-haiku" this might happen, though[23:27:41] <ajupiter> i haven't tried haiku-image, but it happens with "jam" & "jam install-haiku"[23:28:14] <MYOB> yes, because they effectively don't work...[23:29:01] <MYOB> jam haiku.image shouldn't have any problenms[23:29:13] <axeld> ajupiter: so you're building from BeOS?[23:29:34] <ajupiter> yes, from R5[23:29:44] <axeld> ajupiter: a simple "jam" would build all targets, not just the ones needed for the image - don't do that[23:30:26] <ajupiter> okay.. would doing "jam" intially, have messed it up for a "jam install-haiku" afterwords?[23:30:42] <ajupiter> er... sorry, haiku-imge[23:30:47] *** pikapika has quit IRC[23:30:58] <axeld> ajupiter: no, it would just compile more than needed[23:32:28] *** JBurton has joined #haiku[23:32:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o JBurton[23:32:44] <JBurton> hi all[23:32:45] *** SiCuTDeUx_Zz has quit IRC[23:32:52] *** Thom_Holwerda has quit IRC[23:33:55] <axeld> Hi JBurton![23:34:02] <DaaT> hey JBurton[23:34:03] <axeld> JBurton: I see you fixed that bug :-)[23:34:06] <JBurton> hey axeld[23:34:13] <JBurton> yo DaaT[23:34:16] <JBurton> yeah finally, axeld[23:34:36] <JBurton> I think those changed you did the other day actually helped :)[23:35:09] <axeld> JBurton: which one?[23:35:21] <axeld> The GetMouse() button thing?[23:35:25] <JBurton> yeah[23:35:38] <CIA-17> phoudoin * r20800 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/opengl/glinfo/GLInfo.cpp: Added some more OpenGL info.[23:36:17] <JBurton> that one(s)[23:40:17] <JBurton> axeld: did you try to unzip a big file in haiku recently ?[23:40:35] <axeld> JBurton: no, should I?[23:40:43] <JBurton> yeah[23:40:45] <axeld> JBurton: I mean does it work now? ;-)[23:40:48] <JBurton> there's even a bug opened :P[23:40:49] <JBurton> no :P[23:40:53] <JBurton> it hangs after some time[23:41:01] <JBurton> it did KDL before, though :P[23:41:26] <CIA-17> marcusoverhagen * r20801 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/misc/test.c: reproduceable testcase for bug #1168[23:41:39] <CIA-17> stippi * r20802 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/sounds/Sounds.rdef: * improved icon[23:42:12] <MYOB> just had to nmap my network to find my print server :/[23:43:04] <axeld> JBurton: but that's the expected behaviour right now, so everything is fine ;-)[23:43:18] <dr_evil> MYOB my printserver is on 10.0.0.10 ;)[23:43:35] <MYOB> dr_evil mine was on .104 but I had to HW reset it[23:43:44] <MYOB> and then it reset back to DHCP....[23:43:49] <JBurton> axeld: eheh[23:44:08] <CIA-17> phoudoin * r20803 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/opengl/glinfo/GLInfo.cpp: Removed useless variable.[23:44:25] <MYOB> its also the other side of a Linksys wireless bridge from the machine I was scanning from so all I got was 3 IPs attached with Cisco-Linksys as vendor, had to try all three...[23:45:35] <MYOB> anyways, I found it and put it back[23:46:48] *** gotaku has joined #haiku[23:47:05] <CIA-17> marcusoverhagen * r20804 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dvb/cx23882/driver.c: fixed small memory leak, added debug output to close hook[23:47:15] <[Beta]> it feels like a monday :)[23:47:24] <JBurton> hey [Beta][23:47:35] <[Beta]> hey JBurton! how's it going ?[23:48:26] <gotaku> So many threading problems in Haiku :([23:48:32] <JBurton> [Beta]: not really well... I'm recovering from a ..er... renal colica (?)[23:49:23] <JBurton> [Beta]: I passed a really bad saturday morning at the hospital[23:51:33] <[Beta]> ouch JBurton, I feel for you :/[23:51:47] <DaaT> sorry to hear it JBurton[23:52:27] *** pyCube has quit IRC[23:52:32] <ajupiter> oooohh, i think i have the wrong gcc ver.. oops :P[23:53:00] <JBurton> they found stones in my kidneys... now I guess I should have them removed...[23:53:13] <[Beta]> would anyone know a reason for Jam ignoring the build config and not use the cross-tools ?[23:53:37] <[Beta]> JBurton, which I assume they'll make you pass in your urine, which can be hell :o[23:53:38] <JBurton> did you run configure without parameters AFTER building the cross-tools ?[23:53:45] <[Beta]> JBurton, nope :)[23:53:52] <JBurton> [Beta]: that's an option[23:54:05] <JBurton> [Beta]: the other option is using some sort of laser/ultrasound/whatever[23:54:10] <[Beta]> JBurton, myself, I would go for surgery. but i'm a coward.[23:54:12] <JBurton> I guess it depends on the doctor[23:54:16] <[Beta]> mhmm[23:54:19] <JBurton> [Beta]: eheh[23:54:38] <JBurton> I don't think they "open" you anymore for that kind of stuff[23:55:18] <[Beta]> probes instead :)[23:55:23] <JBurton> exactly[23:55:40] <JBurton> which is not cool anywat :P[23:55:41] <JBurton> anyway[23:56:01] <JBurton> oh well we'll see[23:56:13] <JBurton> I just hope I don't get a colica AGAIN[23:56:18] <[Beta]> well, good luck.[23:56:19] <JBurton> it hurts too much[23:56:21] <JBurton> :P[23:56:24] <JBurton> thanks[23:57:00] <JBurton> btw the doctor said: "27 years and kidney stones already: congratulations!"[23:57:20] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku[23:57:22] <DaaT> lol[23:57:47] <JBurton> yeah ... then he said: "the only thing I can do for you is remove one of your kidneys... are you ok with that?"[23:57:48] <jonaskirilla> Anybody know the uname of Zeta?[23:58:01] <JBurton> I was like "er..."[23:58:22] <DeadYak> jonaskirilla: I thought it was just Zeta but I might be wrong[23:58:26] <[Beta]> I hope you answered with nervous laughter :p[23:58:37] <CHodapp_> my brother had kidney stones at like 24[23:58:48] <JBurton> heh[23:59:00] <jonaskirilla> DeadYak: I can't test myself, so I'd like a definitive answer, but thanks anyway :)[23:59:07] <gotaku> At least you didn't pass any of them... or did you?[23:59:13] <[Beta]> anyone know if I can pass arch/plat to `make`[23:59:29] <JBurton> I didn't[23:59:37] <JBurton> anyway[23:59:42] <JBurton> I guess I'll get some rest now[23:59:43] <JBurton> bye all[23:59:47] <[Beta]> nn[23:59:55] *** JBurton has quit IRC