April 20, 2007 
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April 20, 2007 [00:02:04] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:02:12] <CIA-17> korli * r20761 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/media/DefaultManager.h: clean unused includes[00:03:25] *** korli has joined #haiku[00:03:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[00:03:44] *** doppelj has joined #haiku[00:04:10] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20762 /haiku/trunk/src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): moved tcptester to tests/.[00:05:42] *** rossmaartin has quit IRC[00:07:37] <CIA-17> korli * r20763 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/support/Beep.cpp: added a copyright[00:07:38] *** korli has quit IRC[00:08:41] *** korli has joined #haiku[00:08:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[00:08:56] *** doppelj has left #haiku[00:10:12] *** korli has quit IRC[00:13:39] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[00:13:59] *** kr1stof_ has left #haiku[00:26:28] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[00:27:12] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[00:28:17] *** tigerdog has quit IRC[00:29:46] <Grackle> Well that's interesting. I modified http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/haiku/haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/pci/arch/x86/pci_controller.c?rev=16086&view=markup so that it would choose mechanism 1 regardless of what the test returned. It recognized my PCI devices after that.[00:30:03] <Grackle> Still no network though.[00:30:33] <Grackle> This is on a machine with an nvidia chipset, I'm going to try it on the box with the sis chipset now.[00:33:29] <Grackle> Er, hm. Weirdness. Anyway, I'll look into it more after dinner.[00:33:59] *** rossmaartin has joined #haiku[00:36:27] *** TTRanger has joined #Haiku[00:38:23] *** rossmaartin has quit IRC[00:41:50] *** jevin has joined #haiku[00:42:35] *** jevin has quit IRC[00:42:47] *** jevin has joined #haiku[00:44:26] *** DaaT has quit IRC[00:46:12] *** pikapika has quit IRC[00:46:31] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[00:48:33] *** [Beta] has quit IRC[00:50:03] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[00:55:17] *** sarcas has quit IRC[00:56:44] *** phrizek has quit IRC[01:02:07] *** guildencrantz has quit IRC[01:04:56] *** oco has quit IRC[01:05:20] *** bobwhoops has joined #haiku[01:16:08] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[01:24:20] *** judgen has joined #haiku[01:24:33] <judgen> hello friends[01:24:41] <judgen> im kinda drunk[01:25:13] <judgen> ive almost stop smoking though[01:25:23] <NeonLicht> kinda? XDDD[01:25:39] <judgen> down to pne cig /6hours[01:25:43] <judgen> one[01:26:00] <judgen> before it was 1/h[01:26:36] <judgen> NeonLicht: are you new?[01:26:40] <judgen> NeonLicht: i dont quite remember that nick[01:27:38] <NeonLicht> well, I'm around irregularly for a couple of years; more regularly for a couple of months or so :)[01:28:09] <NeonLicht> is that new enough? XD[01:28:59] *** BGA has quit IRC[01:30:21] *** petterhj has quit IRC[01:33:08] *** phrizek has joined #haiku[01:33:09] <judgen> im an oldie so ill have to check my logs[01:33:20] <judgen> gimme a few secs[01:33:36] <judgen> btw , always gone by that nick?[01:34:16] <NeonLicht> I might have showed up as AMA (my initials) some times[01:34:29] <judgen> ok[01:34:53] <judgen> not very far ... have you used beshare?[01:35:05] *** whoopsbob has quit IRC[01:35:08] <NeonLicht> no, I haven't[01:35:31] <judgen> ok then a few years is adequate i must say[01:35:43] <judgen> how many do you guess (from start[01:35:46] <judgen> )[01:35:51] <judgen> =)[01:35:54] <NeonLicht> what?[01:36:24] <judgen> how many years on freenode do guess youve been online?[01:37:09] <judgen> including #openboes ofcourse[01:37:17] <judgen> openbeos i mean[01:37:29] <NeonLicht> I've connected a few times during lots of years, but I couldn't say, who cares?[01:37:43] <judgen> i think its fun[01:37:47] <judgen> sorry =([01:38:04] <NeonLicht> don't be sorry[01:38:08] <judgen> most people dont even remember[01:38:23] <NeonLicht> I mostly used Undernet during the 90s[01:38:28] <judgen> but i do (with help of logs[01:38:32] <NeonLicht> some times Dalnet also[01:38:47] <judgen> what channels on undernat[01:38:48] <judgen> ?[01:38:49] <NeonLicht> I usually hang on the IRC-Hispano now[01:39:32] <NeonLicht> and latelly on a few xhannels on freenode (where I was coming only from time to time before)[01:39:41] <NeonLicht> I don't keep logs of any channel[01:39:54] <judgen> cool, then you speak español i guess?[01:41:06] <NeonLicht> sure, I do, I am from Spain[01:43:40] <judgen> im crappy at spanish, ive only been able to learn Norweigan, English, Swedish,, Pijtmå Danish, Germanl. French and Dutch- Though the last three i only understan in speech and smi in weithing[01:45:09] <judgen> localetracker made it possible to (for the first time) to use an os in pijtmål[01:45:47] <judgen> id transöate anything for haiku for pijtmål[01:46:52] <judgen> hope the language truff is very xustomizavlw though as we use both sweish and icelandic letters[01:46:59] <judgen> stuff*[01:47:13] <judgen> and i ment customizable[01:47:55] <judgen> im forced to use a "ms soft keboard" and its a pin[01:47:58] <judgen> pain[01:48:35] <judgen> beeing drunk dont help the spelling =P[01:52:13] <judgen> Big UL! on me as i seem to be lone tonigth[01:56:55] *** jevin has quit IRC[01:59:02] <judgen> LOL im alone in thid channel[02:01:42] <[Beta]> nah :p[02:21:53] * _hugo grumbles[02:32:07] * CHodapp_ mumbles[02:34:49] *** Meanwhile has joined #haiku[02:35:04] * Meanwhile stumbles[02:35:21] * CHodapp_ crumbles?[02:36:25] <Meanwhile> almost[02:37:15] <Meanwhile> my floor is clean[02:50:43] *** judgen has quit IRC[02:55:35] <Meanwhile> to bed...[02:55:40] *** Meanwhile has left #haiku[02:58:06] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[03:21:02] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[03:22:12] <pyCube> damnit... playing with haiku makes me wanna write some prefs apps[03:24:09] <DeadYak> what's stopping you? :)[03:24:47] <pyCube> lack of proper python goodness[03:25:09] <DeadYak> umm[03:25:14] <DeadYak> what's wrong with Bethon?[03:25:23] <DeadYak> or does that not run on Haiku yet?[03:25:53] <pyCube> no idea, but bethon was sorta wonky, for lack of a better term[03:25:58] <DeadYak> oh[03:27:33] <pyCube> i really do think api bindings for python and such is a good investment of time[03:27:48] * _hugo wiggles[03:28:08] <pyCube> opens doors for silly stuff like prefs apps to more people.. let the deep code kniw-it-alls put their skills to better use[03:30:49] <kokito> _hugo, FWIW, Transmission (the bittorrent client) works nicely :)[03:30:56] <_hugo> kokito: thats very good to hear[03:31:00] <pyCube> but then, i am a firm believer in accessible code, not simply 'open' code[03:31:20] <kokito> the BONE version, btw, _hugo[03:31:38] <_hugo> i've been trying to improve TCP, specially to send data, there are still some rough edges, but its becoming better[03:32:29] <_hugo> kokito: anywho, thats for reporting :-) always good to know more apps are working[03:32:33] <_hugo> s/thats/thanks/[03:32:40] <kokito> _hugo, I had Haiku running for about 5 hours, running Beshare and ocasionally wget and transmission, and did not have any hicups[03:33:00] <kokito> so, _hugo, it's definitely getting better.[03:33:01] <_hugo> neat :-)[03:33:06] <_hugo> kokito: how much mem do you have?[03:33:16] <kokito> so, I should say, a BIG THANK YOU for your work :)[03:33:26] <_hugo> don't worry about it, glad it's getting better[03:33:33] <kokito> 512MB in vmware _hugo[03:33:59] <pyCube> heh.. kokito.. reminds me of a burrito place near my work.. they sell mondo sized, and mondito.. diminutive form of words that mean 'big' strike me as funny[03:34:48] <kokito> but even when running beshare, vision and transmission at the same time, memory usage is around 100MB, so I guess I could do OK with 256MB.[03:34:50] <pyCube> its big.. just in a small and cute way[03:35:12] <kokito> pyCube, kokito is diminutive for koki (which is my real nick, but it's already being used by someone else here)[03:35:23] <pyCube> right[03:36:14] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:36:24] <_hugo> kokito: yeah, i was asking because i've hit some bad stuff when transmitting a lot of data. but this was with 128Mb. the VM (or allocator) doesn't quite handle out of memory situations very nicely yet[03:36:57] <_hugo> anyway, it will be improved as well eventually[03:36:58] <pyCube> kokito: do you speak spanish?[03:37:58] <kokito> it's my mother tongue pyCube[03:38:14] <kokito> _hugo, yes, I am aware of the VM issues.[03:38:37] <pyCube> kokito: so is -ito a masculine diminutive signifier, or is it gender neutral?[03:39:47] <pyCube> my assumption is that there must be a feminine diminutive thingy[03:40:10] <_hugo> pyCube: the feminine should probably be -ita[03:40:16] <kokito> ito for male and ita for female gender[03:40:40] <kokito> so, pedro becomes pedrito and pepa becomes pepita[03:40:43] <pyCube> thought so.. just not able to conjure up any spanish -ita words off hand[03:41:33] *** Master199 has quit IRC[03:41:34] *** M199 is now known as Master199[03:42:58] <pyCube> i should just go and learn spanish.. been meaning to for years..[03:43:13] <pyCube> especially since i plan on ending up in central or south america at some point[03:44:14] <pyCube> s.america is becoming very very interesting in a socio-political way[03:44:51] <kokito> pyCube, that's a double-sworded statement :)[03:45:08] <pyCube> why's that?[03:47:33] <pyCube> with the recent elections in equador, he continent becomes even more interesting[03:48:34] <pyCube> i'd better watch it or i might end up on some fbi/cia no fly list[03:50:48] <pyCube> i do wish that the mexican elections would have gone a little differently...not unlike the last 2 elections here..[03:51:03] <_hugo> i need to upgrade to more memory, sometimes i wait up to a minute generating a image, sigh[03:51:09] <pyCube> wait.. i suppose i should be talking about haiku[03:55:26] *** umccullough_work has joined #haiku[03:58:39] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20764 /haiku/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): some internal reorganization of getsockopt()/setsockopt() handling. TCP is now able to fully use the application requested sender/receiver buffer sizes for improved performance.[03:58:55] <kokito> pyCube, because the topic surrounding the socio-political trends in south america can be quite controversial.[04:00:32] <pyCube> kokito: not to sane people :-p[04:01:29] <kokito> sanity is relative, pyCube :)[04:02:51] <pyCube> i suppose if i was heir to the united fruit company or some tin mine.. or if i was descendant of spanish aristocracy, then yeah.. i might be annoyed by the current trends[04:03:57] <pyCube> but as a person that believes in people rights and basic decency... things like Morales becoming leader of bolivia are music to my ears[04:04:01] *** Crumbs has joined #haiku[04:04:20] <pyCube> ...and i am not even bolivian.. hehe[04:06:43] <umccullough_work> _hugo, did you get any failing DHCP packet info yet?[04:06:51] <_hugo> umccullough_work: unfortunely now[04:06:52] <umccullough_work> if not, i'll try to get you something tonight[04:06:57] <_hugo> that would be nice[04:07:04] <umccullough_work> _hugo, ok :) I will then[04:07:52] <_hugo> umccullough_work: hopefully ill be around, but if not, feel free to leave it in a ticket or directly to my mail[04:08:03] <umccullough_work> yup, will do[04:08:40] <pyCube> ...and its really cool andean style guitar and panflute music that is in my ears[04:13:47] *** SunWuKung has joined #haiku[04:14:04] * _hugo wiggles[04:14:09] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20765 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): merged a bit more of functionality into DatagramSocket so we don't require a custom ReadData in the link protocol.[04:17:41] <CIA-17> bonefish * r20766 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/userlandfs/server/haiku_file_cache.cpp: Ouch! sleep() != snooze()[04:19:52] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[04:31:38] *** knoedel has joined #haiku[04:33:24] *** knoedel has quit IRC[04:35:32] *** umccullough_work has left #haiku[04:40:26] *** Crumbs has quit IRC[04:50:00] *** stargater_ has joined #haiku[04:52:04] *** DC1 has joined #haiku[05:04:05] *** Yez has joined #Haiku[05:04:37] *** stargater has quit IRC[05:05:29] *** MikeW has quit IRC[05:11:31] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[05:13:12] *** santagada has joined #haiku[05:16:45] *** jevin has joined #haiku[05:23:15] *** the_webers_inc has quit IRC[05:29:34] *** SunWuKung has quit IRC[05:30:16] *** santagada has quit IRC[05:33:27] <Yez> _hugo are you around?[05:34:02] <_hugo> yes[05:34:13] <Yez> I have a hub[05:34:22] <_hugo> ah cool[05:34:28] <Yez> talk to me![05:34:35] <_hugo> Yez: is your workstation windows or linux?[05:34:57] <Yez> windows[05:35:06] <_hugo> Yez: grab wireshark from www.wireshark.org please[05:35:57] <_hugo> meanwhile you can attach the haiku box to the hub, and then connect the hub's uplink port to the switch[05:36:02] <JonathanThompson> Hi guys.[05:36:12] <_hugo> hello JonathanThompson[05:36:25] <Yez> _hugo uh, switch == router?[05:36:30] * DeadYak pets JonathanThompson[05:36:37] <_hugo> Yez: your router probably has a switch inside, yes[05:36:38] * JonathanThompson puts a leash on DeadYak[05:36:39] <Yez> enough with the petting![05:36:44] <DeadYak> :/[05:36:47] <Yez> ok[05:36:50] <DeadYak> but I like petting[05:37:04] <JonathanThompson> He's a Yak![05:37:14] <JonathanThompson> He's into heavy petting, I'll bet...[05:37:49] <Yez> do I want to "Start WinPcap service NPF at startup"?[05:38:03] <_hugo> Yez: not really[05:38:11] <Yez> installing[05:38:12] <_hugo> i think :-)[05:38:26] <_hugo> i have messed with winpcap in windows in a while (years)[05:38:30] <_hugo> *haven't[05:42:52] <Yez> i will prolly lose connectivty for a sec, brb[05:49:43] <Yez> test[05:50:01] * JonathanThompson has to laugh at getting asigned to write a test utility to dump data and learn once it is running, that apparently the data being dumped is illegally defined according to specs :)[05:50:14] <_hugo> Yez: hey[05:50:33] <Yez> getting there[05:50:40] <_hugo> ok[05:51:16] <pyCube> JonathanThompson: that sounds scarily too familiar[05:51:22] <Yez> I have the router and the Haiku machine in the hub, I need to see what color this ethernet is then I can put it in the hub[05:51:46] <_hugo> Yez: color?[05:51:58] <_hugo> Yez: don't disconnect before i instruct you about wireshark[05:52:16] <Yez> most the ethernet cables I have in my switch are different colors[05:53:59] <Yez> uh, Wireshark is on this machine. should I not be connect to the Internet through the hub?[05:54:09] <Yez> on this machine?[05:54:34] <pyCube> "Why isnt the output of your parser of our non-standard, loosely at best defined data not entirely predictable?"[05:54:41] <_hugo> you should be able to connect to the internet thought the hub, yes[05:54:45] <pyCube> um, sans not[05:54:54] <pyCube> hehe.. forgot i had already negated things[05:55:04] <JonathanThompson> Not not, but not not not....[05:55:26] <pyCube> behold my powers of uninvisiblity![05:55:27] *** Yez has quit IRC[05:55:49] *** Yez has joined #Haiku[05:55:55] * JonathanThompson is awaiting a "Read error: 104 (Connection reset by beer))" to pop up[05:56:13] <Yez> ok _hugo, I am ready[05:56:37] <_hugo> Yez: ok, fire up wireshark, go to Capture->Options, pick your ethernet interface, and start the capture[05:56:42] <_hugo> then boot haiku[05:57:00] *** phrizek has quit IRC[05:57:08] <_hugo> after the boot and checking that dhcp in fact did not work, press stop in wireshark[05:57:19] <_hugo> then save the capture to a file[06:00:10] * JonathanThompson wonders when _hugo will implement a capture-tag-and-release program...[06:01:20] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: capture-tag-and-release?[06:01:25] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[06:01:46] <JonathanThompson> For nature preserves, they capture an animal, put a tag on it somewhere, and then release it.[06:01:59] * Anxiety captures, tags then releases JonathanThompson[06:02:20] * JonathanThompson runs away in a frenzied state of insanity, as opposed to the calmer, more normal state of insanity[06:02:46] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: ah[06:03:03] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: i completely missed the reference though[06:03:17] <JonathanThompson> :)[06:03:31] <JonathanThompson> Set your code lose :)[06:03:38] <JonathanThompson> Monitor it remotely, after it has been tagged.[06:03:41] <DeadYak> loose :P[06:03:47] <JonathanThompson> See how it breeds :)[06:03:53] <Anxiety> what kind of development enviroment do you guys have set up?[06:03:59] <JonathanThompson> Add an extra "o" that's been forgottne :)[06:04:02] <pyCube> yeah.. code doesnt like to breed in captivity[06:04:33] <JonathanThompson> An old dual p3-450 with 256 megs RAM, Anxiety :)[06:04:40] <JonathanThompson> Very modest by today's standards :P[06:04:40] <_hugo> it is loose, eheh. if i were to monitor remotely people would come after me with torches[06:04:57] <DeadYak> I think he meant in terms of software JT[06:05:00] <DeadYak> I might be wrong[06:05:14] * Anxiety nods at DeadYak[06:05:25] <JonathanThompson> That's when you stop them from getting too close by piling huge amounts of s'mores ingredients on them :)[06:05:25] <DeadYak> I used to just use Eddie here[06:05:39] <pyCube> eclipse and pydev here[06:05:40] <DeadYak> there isn't really a huge amount of choice in dev tools on BeOS[06:06:08] <pyCube> eddie was what i used in beos[06:06:14] <JonathanThompson> atm I'm just using BeIDE because it is bearable and keeps the cycle times for builds down.[06:06:24] <JonathanThompson> Not very powerful, granted...[06:06:34] <Anxiety> I wish I could develop in BeOS, wont run on my PC though :/[06:06:42] <DeadYak> pyCube: Eddie[06:06:43] <JonathanThompson> But until I have completed enough of what I have in mind, I'll stick with it.[06:06:48] <DeadYak> er Eddie's still arguably my favorite editor[06:06:53] <Anxiety> I suppose I could run it in a VM though[06:06:56] <DeadYak> though I like KDE's Kate a lot too[06:07:02] <JonathanThompson> Anxiety, run VPC 2004 or some other emulator.[06:07:19] <Anxiety> doesnt VPC have a problem with BeOS?[06:07:20] <JonathanThompson> Kate doesn't do a good job with indenting in certain ways, DeadYak.[06:07:24] <pyCube> latest versions of gedit is really nice[06:07:28] <JonathanThompson> I had no problem with it, Anxiety.[06:07:32] <Anxiety> if not, VPC 2007 is out for free now[06:07:34] <pyCube> are[06:07:35] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[06:07:41] <DeadYak> JT: I don't generally rely on auto-indent[06:07:57] <JonathanThompson> Well, manual indenting didn't work as desired, either.[06:08:06] <JonathanThompson> It wouldn't follow my instructions for doing it easily.[06:08:15] <pyCube> but pydev for eclipse is amazing..[06:08:17] <JonathanThompson> So at work atm I'm using kWrite, which seems to work better.[06:08:18] <DeadYak> how so?[06:08:21] * Anxiety goes off to look for his old BeOS 5 Pro CD[06:08:22] <pyCube> i absolutely love it[06:08:22] <DeadYak> I hate Eclipse[06:08:27] <pyCube> heh[06:08:34] <DeadYak> most bloated editor of all time[06:08:41] <DeadYak> very very slow[06:08:42] <Anxiety> and buggy[06:08:45] <JonathanThompson> DeadYak, it had its own idea as to whether or not it wanted to indent when I pressed tab, and what I wanted didn't seem to matter.[06:08:46] <Anxiety> at least in my experience[06:09:00] <pyCube> its super fast, in my experience[06:09:01] <DeadYak> an editor using 800 megs of RAM for 20 open files = not acceptable[06:09:10] <pyCube> and i have some huge projects going in it[06:09:16] <JonathanThompson> Most of the people at the office I work at use Visual Insight on Windows to edit their linux code.[06:09:52] <JonathanThompson> I may end up doing that, too, since it has autocompletion, class browser, etc. and appears to be quite stable.[06:10:09] <JonathanThompson> Best understanding I have is that KDevelop is a bugfest and horribly crash-prone.[06:10:55] <pyCube> i'll admit, eclipse likes ram.. once it has enough, it does really really well.. but i dunno about eclipse in other contexts than pydev..[06:11:04] <pyCube> and pydev is really well done[06:11:11] <DeadYak> I have yet to see a RAD/IDE type environment that didn't get sluggish as hell over time[06:11:16] <DeadYak> that's why I tend to just prefer using an editor[06:11:29] <DeadYak> rather than something that tries to be the kitchen sink[06:11:54] <DeadYak> pyCube: in my case it has phpEclipse and Subclipse installed[06:12:04] <DeadYak> but frankly even without those it's slow[06:12:35] <pyCube> i have a custom start script that allocates more ram to the vm.. made a WORLD of difference[06:12:49] <pyCube> f'ing java[06:12:54] <pyCube> heh[06:13:20] <DeadYak> I might need to do that then, I do often manage to blow it up with out of ram warnings too[06:13:32] <pyCube> subclipse is pretty slick too[06:13:35] <pyCube> i like it a lot[06:14:36] <Anxiety> I just want an tabbed edit window in the middle, a file browser on the side, and a command prompt at the bottom and I'm good to go[06:14:39] <pyCube> ./eclipse -vmargs -Xmx390M -XX:MaxPermSize=256M[06:14:43] <pyCube> thats what i use[06:15:26] <pyCube> it was basically unuable if i launch eclipse normally[06:15:30] <pyCube> unusable[06:18:51] <DeadYak> will try that tomorrow, thanks :)[06:19:22] <pyCube> hope it makes a difference[06:19:26] <pyCube> it did here[06:20:55] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[06:21:04] <pyCube> cause yeah, getting "out of ram" errors on modern machines, well stocked with ram, is maddening! harkens back to horrors of classic macos[06:23:28] <pyCube> i remember working at home on my windows box with 64megs ram.. running photoshop and quark xpress.. i'd go to work, sit at my mac running the same apps.. doing the same things, and run out of ram.. even though it had 180megs[06:23:52] <pyCube> i dont care what the explaination is.. thats just retarded[06:25:00] <_hugo> Yez: i've identified the problem[06:25:16] <Yez> cool[06:25:17] <_hugo> hopefully i can fix it today[06:25:39] <pyCube> DeadYak: my guess is that your problems start with a p, end with a p, and have an h in the middle :-p[06:25:46] <Yez> very cool, hopefully it is the same problem that umccollough is having[06:26:01] <DeadYak> pyCube: happens even when I'm working with Java code though[06:26:31] <pyCube> hehe[06:26:43] <pyCube> i'm just being silly[06:26:45] <DeadYak> :P[06:26:47] <DeadYak> I know[06:28:16] <_hugo> Yez: how long will you be available?[06:29:41] <Yez> how long do you think you need me?[06:29:48] <Yez> I am fading kinda fast[06:30:05] <Yez> but could probably hang in for another 30 minutes or so[06:30:40] <_hugo> not sure this will be fixed in 30 mins. no problem, you can re-test another time[06:31:01] <Yez> try your best and I will hang out[06:31:47] <pyCube> DeadYak: eclipse issues aside, how is phpEclipse as a php editor/ide?[06:32:24] <DeadYak> pyCube: it's ok, doesn't really add too much besides correct syntax highlighting though[06:32:31] <pyCube> ah[06:33:15] <pyCube> pydev has a lot of very nice/useful goodies..so it was worth the effort for me to wrestle eclipse[06:35:04] <pyCube> the last piece i really want to get is subversion integration with our issue/bug tracker[06:36:03] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[06:36:08] *** guma has joined #haiku[06:38:41] <pyCube> DeadYak: what do you do that , um, let's you use php?[06:39:20] <JonathanThompson> He tortures Python developers :P[06:39:26] <pyCube> hehe[06:40:12] <pyCube> "you must prefix vars with unnecessary symbols!!!"[06:40:57] * JonathanThompson throws @@ before a variable name just to piss off pyCube[06:41:13] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20767 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): retrieve the incoming interface on the domain_receive_adapter(). This should fix potential issues with packets addressed to the IP broadcast address, such as in with some DHCP implementations.[06:41:30] <_hugo> Yez: still available for a re-test?[06:41:34] <Yez> sure[06:41:54] <_hugo> Yez: you have to get this latest revision and rebuild though. so no problem if you can only do it another time[06:41:54] *** guma has quit IRC[06:41:59] <JonathanThompson> _hugo, how many hacks are you having to add for network things where they don't really follow the standard, but need to work?[06:42:09] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: too many[06:42:14] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: wasn't the case though[06:42:39] <JonathanThompson> Not this time, anyway :)[06:42:51] <pyCube> or so it appears[06:42:58] <_hugo> compatibility is hard.[06:43:05] <Yez> _hugo how do I get just updates from svn ?[06:43:19] <_hugo> Yez: in your source tree type "svn update"[06:43:37] <pyCube> or just svn up[06:43:46] <Yez> trying[06:43:48] * JonathanThompson hands pyCube a cold one[06:44:03] <pyCube> hehe[06:44:12] <_hugo> on that note, ill grab something to drink, bbiab[06:44:40] <Yez> _hugo[06:44:47] * JonathanThompson notes _hugo will achieve the ultimate compression ratio before fading into /dev/null by compressing himself into 1 bit[06:44:53] <_hugo> back[06:44:56] <_hugo> Yez: yes?[06:45:00] <Yez> once I get the updates, can I just build the network stuff?[06:45:15] <Yez> or should I build all of Haiku?[06:45:19] <_hugo> Yez: it depends. how are you installing?[06:45:30] <Yez> copy/paste ;-)[06:45:45] <_hugo> Yez: typing jam should rebuild only the necessary bits, i.e. those that were changed[06:45:48] <_hugo> or impact others[06:46:08] <_hugo> Yez: i would advise letting it build what it needs and re-copying. there are several dependencies[06:46:27] <_hugo> JonathanThompson: i was 1 bit[06:46:41] <_hugo> well, not 1 bit, one cell, cough[06:51:02] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[06:51:28] * JonathanThompson lobs a Haiku Hello at umccullough[06:51:32] <umccullough> so, somehow in the last 10 years I've failed to understand how PGP works...[06:51:52] <JonathanThompson> Pretty Good Problem...[06:51:55] <umccullough> when you give someone your public key, and they encrypt a message with it...[06:52:06] <umccullough> and you have to decrypt it, having the private key isn't enough?[06:52:12] <_hugo> it is[06:52:13] <JonathanThompson> It involves a lot of nasty math, umccullough :P[06:52:17] <umccullough> i also have to know the passphrase I used to create the key?[06:52:18] <_hugo> not need to know the math[06:52:27] <_hugo> umccullough: if the private key is encrypted[06:52:32] <_hugo> you need to know the passphrase used[06:52:38] <JonathanThompson> That's what pre-written code helps you with, true, _hugo.[06:52:39] <umccullough> oh ...that sucks[06:53:00] <umccullough> for some reason i thought i'd be able to remember the passphrase and I didn't[06:53:07] <_hugo> in fact, the private key is your "identity", there is no way to retrieve it back if you dont remember the passphrase[06:53:12] <_hugo> besides generating a new one that is[06:53:15] <umccullough> ok wait then...[06:53:27] <umccullough> i exported it to a .asc file which i burned to a cd[06:53:34] <umccullough> isn't that the unencrypted version?[06:53:40] <_hugo> that is ancii armored file[06:53:44] <_hugo> *an ascii[06:53:50] <_hugo> it is still encrypted[06:53:53] <umccullough> well shit[06:53:55] <_hugo> its just that the data is in base64[06:55:43] <umccullough> so now i'm gonna sit here and try to remember what passphrase i used :([06:56:18] <_hugo> sounds as a good plan :-)[06:57:01] *** weltschmerz has joined #haiku[07:00:10] <Yez> ok _hugo, if I do "jam haiku-image" like I did to build my image originally, will it only build the updates or will it build the whole thing?[07:00:42] <Yez> I think my generated image is still sitting in the generated directory[07:00:48] <_hugo> Yez: if you didnt run "jam clean" mwanwhile, it will build only what is required to be updated. in the end it will pick everything and build a new image[07:00:56] <_hugo> mwanwhile? eheh. meanwhile[07:01:28] <Yez> nope, I never ran "jam clean"[07:01:51] *** stargater_ is now known as stargater[07:02:43] <Yez> ...patience...[07:04:41] <umccullough> this is pointless - i'm gonna just create a new key and try again... jeez[07:04:49] <Yez> hehehehe[07:07:03] <umccullough> shit...and now GPG crashed[07:07:12] <Yez> pgp?[07:07:19] <umccullough> GnuPG[07:07:23] <Yez> ah[07:14:17] <umccullough> _hugo, is 20767 possibly going to fix my problem?[07:14:33] <Yez> nope, only mine. you are screwed![07:14:43] <_hugo> umccullough: hopefully will fix Yez's problem, i'm still not sure about the source of your problem[07:14:51] <umccullough> ok[07:15:29] <Yez> yer no fun _hugo[07:15:37] <_hugo> :-)[07:18:06] <geist> BEHOLD[07:18:22] <umccullough> B_HOLD?[07:18:33] <umccullough> hold what?[07:22:03] <geist> BEHOLD!![07:24:12] *** Irata has quit IRC[07:24:33] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[07:24:51] *** nonesuch_ has joined #haiku[07:28:58] <geist> darn, linux box is still screwed[07:29:06] <geist> time to take it apart and see what's busted[07:29:41] <Yez> _hugo[07:29:55] <geist> starting to think it's the root disk drive that crapped out[07:29:58] <_hugo> Yez: yeah?[07:29:59] <Yez> works fine now!!![07:30:05] <_hugo> Yez: nice[07:30:15] <Yez> yes, thank you[07:30:23] <_hugo> no problem, glad it works[07:31:05] <Yez> was it a "generic" kind of problem?[07:31:15] <Yez> think it may help umccullough and others?[07:31:19] <_hugo> Yez: it was not really dhcp specific, but dhcp was affected by it[07:31:26] <_hugo> it will help others, not sure about umccullough[07:31:31] <Yez> ok[07:32:23] <umccullough> i'm building a vmware image now[07:34:54] <_hugo> i will be around, so let me know umccullough[07:35:41] <Yez> night fellas[07:35:48] <_hugo> see you Yez[07:37:08] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:38:27] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[07:39:41] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:40:00] <Begasus> morning peeps[07:45:14] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[07:55:45] *** umccullough has quit IRC[07:56:00] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[07:56:21] *** DC1 has quit IRC[07:56:38] *** phrizek has joined #haiku[07:59:58] <umccullough> _hugo, 20767 works now[08:00:12] <_hugo> umccullough: ah :-)[08:00:21] <JonathanThompson> umccullough, your problem gone now?[08:00:28] <umccullough> looks like it[08:00:38] <umccullough> :)[08:00:51] <JonathanThompson> Time to restart Robin Hood :P[08:01:03] <Anxiety> later people[08:02:38] <umccullough> running[08:02:51] <umccullough> oh, i need to update the rev[08:04:32] <umccullough> i need to sleep[08:04:33] <umccullough> 'night[08:05:10] <_hugo> see you[08:07:17] *** umccullough has left #haiku[08:07:57] *** jevin has quit IRC[08:14:27] <JonathanThompson> Ah, the History Channel has a Modern Marvels episode on about the Mackinac bridge in MI.[08:18:33] *** MauriceK is now known as Maurice^doc[08:28:59] *** pyCube has quit IRC[08:35:35] *** Crumbs has joined #haiku[08:35:36] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[08:40:22] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[08:40:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[08:41:14] <Begasus> plop :)[08:41:29] * JonathanThompson sends a fizz fizz to Begasus[08:41:39] <Begasus> arived JonathanThompson ;)[08:41:46] <JonathanThompson> :)[08:41:47] <Begasus> still awake? ;)[08:41:53] <JonathanThompson> Of course :P[08:42:13] <JonathanThompson> Watching a "Modern Marvels" on the Mackinac bridge of Michigan.[08:42:20] <JonathanThompson> Monster of a bridge.[08:42:34] <JonathanThompson> Designed and built for some of the nastiest weather conditions anywhere.[08:42:45] <Begasus> you guys see it all 'big' ;)[08:43:13] <JonathanThompson> Well, between the UP and LP of Michigan (the narrowest point) is over 5 miles, and the bridge in total is longer than that.[08:43:51] <Begasus> and being used also? :p[08:43:58] <JonathanThompson> And there they have nasty storms with (have been measured) 117 mph winds, and the straits are often frozen ice.[08:44:10] <JonathanThompson> It is most certainly being used, constantly.[08:44:13] <Begasus> woot[08:44:19] <JonathanThompson> Since the 50's[08:44:51] <JonathanThompson> I remember sometime in the 80's a particularly strong gust of wind blew a woman in her Yugo off the bridge.[08:45:21] <Begasus> jikes ...[08:45:31] <Begasus> well with a car like that ... ;)[08:45:35] <JonathanThompson> :P[08:45:35] * Begasus ducks[08:46:01] <JonathanThompson> I think some still are on the road, but I bet most that may still exist haven't been driven much beyond to/from the shop :P[08:46:07] <Begasus> I thought you all drove big cars also <eg>[08:46:25] <JonathanThompson> Nope, not all.[08:46:48] <JonathanThompson> The building I'm working in now seems to have had the parking garage designed by someone smoking crack, however.[08:46:59] <JonathanThompson> Even my modest car is difficult to maneuver in it.[08:47:25] <JonathanThompson> They put the support posts almost exactly in the middle of the thing, with no real room for a turning radius.[08:47:51] <JonathanThompson> And only 3 car widths between each one, so you can't use that to your advantage.[08:48:06] <Begasus> :p[08:48:22] <JonathanThompson> I wonder if they were expecting people to only use motorcycles, or if they were trying to convince people to take the bus instead :P[08:48:26] <Begasus> so ... off to do some house work ;)[08:48:34] <Begasus> lol[08:48:39] <Begasus> cu peeps later ;)[08:48:40] <JonathanThompson> Such fun, eh? :P[08:48:56] <Begasus> JT g'night if I don't see you later ;)[08:49:10] <JonathanThompson> I should be asleep by the time you get back at the computer :)[08:49:14] <JonathanThompson> (I might not be)[08:49:15] * _hugo does the monkey[08:49:30] * JonathanThompson wonders what _hugo is referring to, exactly, and why he's doing it[08:49:34] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[08:49:49] <_hugo> it's raining[08:49:57] <_hugo> it seems like im in seattle[08:52:41] <JonathanThompson> It's dry here right now :P[08:53:17] <JonathanThompson> It doesn't often rain hard here, but during the rainy season, it's usually at least damp most of the time, often misting.[08:53:33] <JonathanThompson> Most of the time an umbrella is nothing more than a good way to go sailing :P[08:53:44] <JonathanThompson> (If the wind is even that strong)[08:53:59] <_hugo> doesn't sound too good[08:54:20] <JonathanThompson> Now if you go into the rain forest on the Olympic peninsula, that'll have a lot of rain during the rainy season.[08:54:52] <JonathanThompson> But most of the rest of the US that's not desert tends to have heavier rain storms than the Seattle area, and Seattle really doesn't get that much rain in terms of total rainfall.[08:55:04] <JonathanThompson> Michigan and Indiana get at least as much, if not more.[08:55:23] <_hugo> is Texas desert?[08:55:24] <JonathanThompson> But when they get rain, you may not be able to see the traffic light a block a way when it really pours.[08:55:25] <_hugo> eheh[08:55:28] <JonathanThompson> A lot of it is.[08:55:45] <_hugo> part of, not as a whole i think[08:55:56] <JonathanThompson> Part of Washington state is desert, too.[08:56:47] <JonathanThompson> When I ran the Lake Chelan half marathon fall 2005, I found it entertaining to watch salt crystals form on my arms :)[08:57:23] <_hugo> thats neat[08:57:30] <JonathanThompson> And if you want to know about desert, Las Vegas is an anomaly that it exists.[08:57:36] <_hugo> the washington state seems green and rocky[08:57:50] <JonathanThompson> It often rarely gets above single digit humidity.[08:58:04] <_hugo> well, lots of stuff to drink around, so no worries :-P[08:58:13] <JonathanThompson> Washington state has almost every climate/landscape except tropical, _hugo.[08:58:51] <JonathanThompson> And all within about a gas tank away from where I'm sitting.[08:59:48] <JonathanThompson> Skiing? Got it. Desert? Got it. Rain forest? Got it. Temperate area? Got it. Cold mountain areas? Got it. Area with little snow? Got it.[09:00:01] <JonathanThompson> Sea coast? Got it.[09:00:17] * JonathanThompson needs to spend more time exploring the state[09:00:27] <_hugo> well, it seems a bit too much to the north to me, eheh[09:00:28] <JonathanThompson> Coffee shop forests? Got that :P[09:00:52] <JonathanThompson> Being as close to the Pacific ocean keeps it from getting too hot or too cold for the most part, _hugo.[09:01:09] <JonathanThompson> It's much colder for extremes if you're farther inland.[09:01:17] <JonathanThompson> And also much hotter, besides.[09:01:31] <_hugo> right, i'm used to coastal temperatures[09:01:47] <_hugo> well, warm coastal, eheh[09:01:48] <JonathanThompson> Indiana and Michigan (as examples) are far more extreme in practice.[09:02:06] <JonathanThompson> So when people around here say it's cold, I just laugh.[09:02:46] <_hugo> new england seems the coldest to me, i'm not really familiar with the states further to the middle of the US[09:03:12] <JonathanThompson> Just like any large land mass, the farther inland you go, the more extreme the temperatures can get on either hot or cold.[09:03:44] <JonathanThompson> Except along parts of the coast, most of the land mass of Canada is a cold country.[09:03:57] *** kokito has quit IRC[09:04:04] <JonathanThompson> But even they can get some rather hot summers in the interior.[09:04:42] <_hugo> anyway, back to coding :-)[09:04:47] <JonathanThompson> For the most part, if you don't like snow, don't go to canada for most of the year :)[09:04:50] <JonathanThompson> Ok.[09:05:15] <_hugo> i'm more of a warmer temperatures person[09:05:24] <_hugo> like 25-28C[09:05:35] * JonathanThompson does mental temp conversion...[09:06:00] <JonathanThompson> Summer days rarely get much above 25C here.[09:06:12] <_hugo> 28C ~ 82F[09:06:21] <JonathanThompson> Yes, as I said.[09:06:26] <_hugo> 25C is nice[09:06:51] <_hugo> during the summer it gets up to 35-38C here[09:06:54] <JonathanThompson> In the midwest, summer days are often closer to about 32C for many days on end, with high humidity.[09:07:00] <_hugo> which is a bit too hot sometimes[09:07:09] <JonathanThompson> Humidity makes a big difference.[09:07:21] <JonathanThompson> The midwest often is >80% relative humidity.[09:07:23] <_hugo> we don't have much humidity[09:07:26] <_hugo> its mostly dry[09:07:35] <_hugo> well, not desert-like dryness[09:07:40] *** nonesuch_ has quit IRC[09:08:05] <JonathanThompson> I don't think in the summer in this part of Washington state that the humidity gets much above 40% most of the time.[09:08:16] <JonathanThompson> In the midwest, that's a mild day for humidity, and requires a drought.[09:08:37] <_hugo> i have no idea what is the humidity concentration around here[09:08:38] <_hugo> let me check[09:08:39] <JonathanThompson> Several months long, at least.[09:09:04] <JonathanThompson> If you have no idea, it probably is fairly low :)[09:09:32] <_hugo> right[09:09:45] <JonathanThompson> Right now it's 45 F here with 69% humidity, dew point at 36 F.[09:09:55] <_hugo> 45F? ouch[09:10:00] <JonathanThompson> If it gets much warmer, that humidity effectively falls quite a bit.[09:10:08] <JonathanThompson> That's nice running weather as far as I'm concerned :)[09:10:15] <JonathanThompson> With minimal t-shirt and shorts.[09:10:29] <_hugo> thats too cold for a tshirt[09:10:31] <_hugo> at least for me[09:10:37] <JonathanThompson> Mind you, running.[09:10:46] <_hugo> ah, running[09:10:57] <JonathanThompson> Even in those conditions, I'll be dripping sweat.[09:11:56] <JonathanThompson> If it gets wet at those temps, you do need something more on: water dissipates heat about 20 times more efficiently than air.[09:12:15] <JonathanThompson> And if it's falling, chances are it was colder than the ground air temperature :P[09:12:21] <_hugo> today is rainy so its not the best example, but where i am: http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/POXX0006.html[09:12:57] <_hugo> its not even summer and we'll be getting 24C highs during the week[09:12:58] <JonathanThompson> I currently live on Mercer Island, between Belllevue and Seattle, in the middle of Lake Washington.[09:13:05] *** phrizek has quit IRC[09:13:11] <_hugo> during the weekend that is[09:13:15] <JonathanThompson> If I were still back in Indianapolis, Indiana, that wouldn't be too odd.[09:13:27] <JonathanThompson> Then again, it may also be below freezing in the same week there :P[09:13:40] <_hugo> it never snows here[09:13:47] <_hugo> or anything freezes for that matter[09:13:55] <JonathanThompson> I've never lived in a place where it never snows.[09:14:08] <_hugo> i've never lived in a place where it snows, eheh[09:14:18] <JonathanThompson> I've seen it snow here, and where I'm at now, that's rare, but this has been a weird year.[09:14:38] <JonathanThompson> The Microsoft campus has a lot of good areas for doing donuts in cars :P[09:14:51] <_hugo> donuts in cars?[09:15:02] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:15:09] <JonathanThompson> If you've never lived where it snows, you'll have no understanding of that, I suspect.[09:15:19] *** rhu has quit IRC[09:15:24] <_hugo> ah, you mean donuts with cars?[09:15:26] <_hugo> in the snow[09:15:35] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[09:15:48] <_hugo> i was thinking of real donuts, i guess i'm hungry, eheh[09:16:51] <JonathanThompson> SeaMonkey was pushed over the edge with your link :P[09:17:18] <_hugo> yeah, i have no idea why but firefox gets trippy too[09:17:25] * _hugo blames yahoo[09:17:32] <JonathanThompson> Could be.[09:17:50] <JonathanThompson> Their email beta sucks on BeOS 5.03, and isn't much better elsewhere for timeout errors.[09:18:01] <_hugo> i'm a gmail user myself.[09:18:10] <_hugo> anyway, i was checking, 20% humidity tomorrow[09:18:33] <JonathanThompson> I don't think it usually gets that low here, and this is not the desert :P[09:18:38] <_hugo> it is probably much lower during the summer[09:18:55] <JonathanThompson> I seem to recall the race I saw salt crystals forming it was about 22% humidity in the area.[09:19:40] <_hugo> well, the only place where i've seen salt crystals is after doing to the beach in a hot day, eheh[09:19:46] <_hugo> after going[09:19:57] <JonathanThompson> Ah, wikipedia has a brief thing about car donuts, under the part "doughnuts and popular culture" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughnut[09:20:16] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[09:20:49] <_hugo> right, we refer to that as spinning around[09:20:57] <JonathanThompson> At least once in your life, you need to do that in the snow :)[09:21:21] <JonathanThompson> Preferably with a powerful rear-wheel drive car.[09:21:30] <JonathanThompson> (Front-wheel drive just isn't the same :( )[09:21:46] <_hugo> i don't really drive so :-)[09:22:02] <JonathanThompson> Most places in the US you'd have a hard time getting things done if you didn't.[09:22:09] <_hugo> yeah, i've heard[09:22:18] <_hugo> i go everywhere by foot in my city[09:22:34] *** Maurice^doc is now known as MauriceK[09:22:45] <JonathanThompson> When I moved to Washington, I deliberately moved into a downtown area where I could walk as much as possible to get things done.[09:22:47] <_hugo> sometimes it takes a bit, up to an hour, but its doable[09:23:10] <JonathanThompson> I won't tell you that you need to get a car :)[09:23:22] <JonathanThompson> If you really don't need to, you'll be healthier if you don't.[09:23:35] <JonathanThompson> They're also burdensome beasts to deal with overall.[09:23:41] <_hugo> well, i've considered it, but i have no need for it[09:24:03] <_hugo> i live within 15 mins of everything i need 95% of the time[09:24:17] <JonathanThompson> Is that on foot in 15 minutes?[09:24:20] <_hugo> yep[09:24:32] <JonathanThompson> You don't need a car most of the time, then :)[09:24:47] <JonathanThompson> I should say, you don't WANT a car, either.[09:24:58] <_hugo> i only need a car where i need to get somewhere within a certain (low) timeframe[09:24:58] <JonathanThompson> With such short trips, they're often more hassle than they're worth.[09:25:00] <_hugo> which is rare[09:25:11] <_hugo> *when i need[09:25:14] <JonathanThompson> Also when you need to move something larger than you can readily carry.[09:25:25] <_hugo> which is rare too, eheh[09:25:55] <_hugo> i always pick my apartments near to places where i can buy groceries and such[09:26:10] * JonathanThompson thinks _hugo is emulating him :P[09:26:34] <JonathanThompson> Since I moved to Washington, I've been within a few blocks of at least one grocery store.[09:26:48] <_hugo> yeah, thats nice[09:26:53] <JonathanThompson> I always laugh to myself when they ask if they can carry my groceries out to my car :P[09:26:58] <_hugo> i live right next to a big one now though, eheh[09:27:16] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[09:27:21] <_hugo> they ask you that? no one ever asks that kind of stuff around here :-)[09:27:21] <JonathanThompson> "Depends on whether you're willing to walk 4-5 blocks!" :)[09:27:42] <JonathanThompson> Well, this is for a higher-end grocery store.[09:27:54] <_hugo> still[09:28:01] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, a lot of places aren't like that.[09:28:27] <JonathanThompson> Other than them wanting tips, I can see no reasonable reason they'd pick me over someone else.[09:28:45] *** Jixt has joined #haiku[09:28:50] <_hugo> well, i guess that wouldn't work here as no one considers giving a tip to a grocery store[09:28:50] <_hugo> eheh[09:28:55] <JonathanThompson> Granted, I'm not perfectly healthy, but I can run for distances that'd leave most people in normal health/physiology gasping to stop.[09:28:56] <_hugo> well, to an employee that is[09:29:25] <_hugo> now that i think about it, we don't tip much :-)[09:29:30] <JonathanThompson> I know if I tipped well enough, they'd carry the groceries 5 blocks :P[09:29:47] <JonathanThompson> Frankly, they'd slow me down.[09:29:52] <_hugo> ahah[09:30:04] <JonathanThompson> I can maintain 4.5 mph walking readily enough.[09:30:33] <_hugo> ugh, middle age measures, let me think[09:30:39] <JonathanThompson> :P[09:30:43] <_hugo> thats 1 mile = 1.2km?[09:30:54] <JonathanThompson> 5K=3.11 miles.[09:31:03] <_hugo> ups[09:31:04] <JonathanThompson> I think 1.62.[09:31:05] <_hugo> 1.6[09:31:42] <_hugo> i wonder when you people will stop using imperial units[09:31:47] <JonathanThompson> Hills don't slow me down in my fast walks: it's a matter of coordination limitations :P[09:32:01] <_hugo> 4.5 mph sounds good[09:32:05] <JonathanThompson> When a foreign power takes over and punishes people for using them :P[09:32:46] <_hugo> nowadays only the metric system makes sense, the rest are relics[09:32:52] <JonathanThompson> Most people don't walk faster than 3 mph most of the time.[09:33:03] <JonathanThompson> Those people drive me nuts :P[09:33:10] <_hugo> i have no idea of how fast i walk[09:33:58] <JonathanThompson> I measured my speed in 2002-2003 during a 10K race where I had started out too fast, and decided to time myself between 2 mile marlers.[09:34:15] <_hugo> interesting[09:34:26] <JonathanThompson> I was a bit worn out, dehydrated, with around 28C and 80+% humidity, and still walked it at 4 mph recovering.[09:34:45] <_hugo> i assume thats good :-) (no idea)[09:35:00] *** 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here.[09:38:23] <_hugo> if the conditions get nasty you should stay at home, safe[09:38:40] <_hugo> preservation of life, basic human instinct[09:38:41] <JonathanThompson> About the worst I've seen it get here is around 100F last July, with relatively low humidity. That was a record for this area, period.[09:38:56] <JonathanThompson> It was low enough humidity it wasn't too bad.[09:39:10] <JonathanThompson> I've experienced 112F in Indiana with 80+ humidity.[09:39:26] <JonathanThompson> You walk outside, slowly, and in less than a minute you're drenched with sweat.[09:39:27] <_hugo> that sounds like tropical[09:39:45] <JonathanThompson> No nice jungle, though :)[09:39:53] <JonathanThompson> It isn't usually that hot there, but it can get that hot.[09:40:04] <JonathanThompson> 90+F on a summer day there is common.[09:40:06] <_hugo> jungles aren't nice, full of malaria carying mosquitos, eheh[09:40:12] <_hugo> carrying[09:40:52] <_hugo> i wonder if its called malaria in english[09:41:03] <JonathanThompson> It is.[09:41:06] <_hugo> ah, yes[09:41:10] <_hugo> i've had malaria, it isn't nice[09:41:33] <JonathanThompson> Michigan wasn't settled as soon as many eastern states, because it was very swampy with lots of that.[09:41:44] <JonathanThompson> They largely clear-cut a lot of the forests of Michigan, sadly.[09:42:14] <JonathanThompson> Even with as much swamp drained as was done, you can't go more than about 10K in a straight line in Michigan without running into a lake.[09:42:34] <JonathanThompson> (Well, on average)[09:42:41] <_hugo> :-)[09:42:47] <_hugo> well, now i really need to go, eheh[09:42:51] <_hugo> my editor is waiting[09:42:52] <JonathanThompson> Seeya![09:42:54] <JonathanThompson> :P[09:46:26] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[09:47:53] <geist> well, gonna leave my server running all night building the kernel in a loop[09:47:58] <geist> lets see if it goes boom[09:55:54] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:05:28] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[10:05:29] <Begasus> re[10:06:10] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[10:11:29] *** jiuda_D`arkness has joined #haiku[10:16:39] *** Jixt has quit IRC[10:18:05] *** weltschmerz has quit IRC[10:22:45] *** DebolazY has joined #haiku[10:32:44] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[10:38:47] *** DebolazX has quit IRC[10:41:30] <raph_ael> hello[10:42:00] <Begasus> hi[10:42:44] <MauriceK> does anybody of you know, wether haiku can build on a fat32 partition? jam works so it should not be a problem by the compiler. it's just that the configure script bails out as it claims not to be able to create an executable, which is.... wrong[10:45:33] <silverpower> you did build the appropriate build tools, right?[10:45:43] <silverpower> Or are you stuck on *that* part?[10:45:52] <MauriceK> yup[10:46:06] <MauriceK> i could build jam, but when i run configure it stops with above error message[10:46:22] <MauriceK> building on regular linux is no problem, but I'd like to have the files on a FAT32 partition[10:46:23] <silverpower> Ouch. dunno, then. But fat32 is rather... primitive... in terms of attributes.[10:46:39] <MauriceK> guess that's the reason... configure trying to test something special there[10:48:38] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[10:49:47] <CIA-17> wkornewald * r20768 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/AboutHaiku.cpp: Made our domain really obvious, so nobody is unhappy.[10:53:10] *** absabs has joined #haiku[10:55:16] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[11:11:07] *** myob has joined #haiku[11:14:26] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[11:22:06] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20769 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/tcp/ (BufferQueue.cpp TCPEndpoint.cpp TCPEndpoint.h):[11:22:06] <CIA-17> more TCP fixes, we should now be able to send large amounts of data through congestioned links.[11:22:06] <CIA-17> - fixed BufferQueue's RemoveUntil.[11:22:07] <CIA-17> - reset SND.NXT on third duplicate ACK (fast retransmit).[11:22:07] <CIA-17> - on retransmit reset SND.NXT to SND.UNA (it will be updated back when we get good ACKs).[11:22:10] <CIA-17> - fixed effective window calculation.[11:22:12] <CIA-17> - relaxed SWS checking a bit, don't send partial packets on retransmission as the window might have been reduced due to congestion.[11:23:23] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[11:25:40] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[11:27:33] *** MauriceK has quit IRC[11:32:31] *** MikeW has quit IRC[11:50:51] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[11:53:15] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[11:56:44] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[12:09:22] *** FiddleStix has quit IRC[12:09:54] *** noph has joined #haiku[12:10:14] <absabs> zjs[12:21:44] *** jiuda_D`arkness has quit IRC[12:21:54] *** Begas_ has joined #haiku[12:22:44] *** MikeW has quit IRC[12:24:19] *** Begasus has quit IRC[12:34:57] *** Pulko_Mandy has joined #haiku[12:38:04] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[12:40:33] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[12:42:31] <stargater> nice he add this into haiku blog :-) http://haiku-os.org/blog/mmlr/2007-04-20/using_the_haiku_usb_stack[12:43:22] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:00:06] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[13:05:51] *** stargater has quit IRC[13:08:51] *** noph has quit IRC[13:15:13] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[13:15:13] *** Pulko_Mandy has quit IRC[13:15:15] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[13:15:18] *** silverpower has quit IRC[13:15:18] *** MrSun has quit IRC[13:15:22] *** _Lucretia_ has quit IRC[13:16:17] *** bga has joined #haiku[13:16:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bga[13:17:02] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[13:17:02] *** Pulko_Mandy has joined #haiku[13:17:02] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[13:17:02] *** silverpower has joined #haiku[13:17:02] *** MrSun has joined #haiku[13:17:02] *** _Lucretia_ has joined #haiku[13:23:59] *** FiddleStix has joined #haiku[13:24:04] *** rhu has joined #haiku[13:49:23] *** noph has joined #haiku[13:49:50] <noph> someone who has managed to compile haiku using cygwin?[13:50:05] <noph> or have any suggestions of how to compile it in a windows envirionment?[13:52:50] <[Beta]> install linux :^)[13:53:06] <[Beta]> From everything i've heard, cygwin builds are impossible atm.[13:54:15] <noph> alright[13:54:29] <noph> well, downloading this ubuntu thingie now. :\[13:54:52] <[Beta]> You could try a VM-hosted linux to build with. BeOS is trickier to host, and would be slower building Haiku.[13:55:50] <noph> thats true, ill have a look at vmware.[14:01:31] *** santagada has joined #haiku[14:11:14] <noph> 30 day trial! :D[14:11:32] <noph> excellent[14:34:22] *** StylusEater_Work has joined #haiku[14:34:48] *** santagada has quit IRC[14:38:33] *** jsgotangco has joined #haiku[14:42:38] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[14:47:34] *** santagada has joined #haiku[14:48:24] *** surrounder has quit IRC[14:48:24] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[14:55:38] *** Begas_ is now known as Begasus_bbl[15:04:51] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[15:14:29] *** santagada has quit IRC[15:15:12] *** eNGIMa has quit IRC[15:18:22] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[15:19:42] *** santagada has joined #haiku[15:26:47] *** mphipps has joined #haiku[15:31:04] <mphipps> who's here?[15:33:23] *** santagada has quit IRC[15:33:48] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[15:34:24] *** fritte has quit IRC[15:39:09] <[Beta]> what's the panic mphipps ?[15:41:11] <myob> obviously none if he's said nowt else ;)[15:44:50] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[15:46:48] *** guildencrantz has joined #haiku[15:48:12] *** Sil2100 has joined #haiku[15:48:19] <Sil2100> Hi[15:48:41] <mphipps> hi[15:50:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[15:51:55] <jsgotangco> lol[15:52:03] <jsgotangco> (oh hi btw)[15:55:00] *** Sloar has joined #haiku[15:58:21] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[15:59:22] *** GreyGhost has joined #haiku[16:00:18] *** lorglas has quit IRC[16:03:56] *** GreyGhostNew has joined #haiku[16:04:43] *** GreyGhost has quit IRC[16:04:52] *** GreyGhostNew is now known as GreyGhost[16:06:35] * DeadYak prods mphipps[16:06:54] <mphipps> what am I getting prodded for now?[16:06:57] <mphipps> :-)[16:07:41] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[16:08:54] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[16:09:23] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[16:11:23] *** GreyGhost has quit IRC[16:11:39] <DeadYak> just because you're here :P[16:12:04] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[16:17:01] <mphipps> thanks![16:19:02] <TTRanger> mphipps Do you know if there is an IRC channel for BeOS Max?[16:19:02] <DeadYak> how've you been?[16:19:06] <TTRanger> Hi DeadYak[16:19:23] <DeadYak> hiya :)[16:21:14] <TTRanger> Anybody know where Vasper hangs out? Which IRC channel(s) ?[16:21:26] <DeadYak> I've seen him in here like once[16:21:28] <DeadYak> I think[16:24:36] <mphipps> no idea. Sorry.[16:24:37] <DeadYak> bbiab, heading to work[16:25:22] *** lorglas has quit IRC[16:28:47] *** mphipps has quit IRC[16:31:23] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[16:32:15] *** jevin has joined #haiku[16:42:04] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[16:43:45] <myob> haven't seen him on IRC/BeShare in years TTRanger[16:43:51] <myob> still need to talk to him about Maxlegality ;)[16:48:23] *** arikato has quit IRC[16:52:14] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[16:54:01] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[16:56:49] *** rossmaartin has joined #haiku[16:58:51] *** jsgotangco has quit IRC[16:59:32] *** emitrax has quit IRC[17:00:42] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:00:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[17:05:05] <rossmaartin> #whois Soli[17:05:10] <bga> mmu_man: GoogleFS seems not to be working.[17:05:26] <bga> Anyway, to easilly test the parser without running it as a filesystem?[17:05:29] <mmu_man> don't tell me your boss changed the html code again ?[17:05:36] <bga> mmu_man: Nope. i did![17:05:37] <bga> ;)[17:05:42] <mmu_man> tss[17:05:44] <bga> Ehehehehehhe...[17:05:50] <mmu_man> yes you can build the parser alone[17:05:51] <bga> So, any way to check the parser?[17:05:56] <mmu_man> IIRC you need to gcc it with another file[17:06:02] <bga> How? Remember I am under Linux.[17:06:17] <mmu_man> aw, I only ever built it in zeta[17:06:25] <mmu_man> let's see[17:08:01] <mmu_man> gcc -o parse_google_html parse_google_html.c string_utils.c[17:08:21] <mmu_man> when you use the fs it dumps a google.html in /tmp[17:08:26] <mmu_man> at least in debug mode[17:08:43] <bga> Ok, didn work in my version of Linux.[17:09:01] <bga> Millions of errors probably due to missing stuff...[17:09:06] <mmu_man> missing syms I guess[17:09:17] <bga> So, anyway, can you try to check it and see if you figure out why it is faliling?[17:09:28] <bga> The visible effect is that no bookmark files are generated.[17:09:42] <bga> mmu_man: Missing includes.[17:09:43] <mmu_man> [root@laptop /work/haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/googlefs]# ./parse_google_html </tmp/google.html[17:09:43] <mmu_man> googlefs: parse_html: sanity check...[17:09:44] <mmu_man> googlefs: parse_html: getting 50 results (1 to 50)[17:09:44] <bga> like OS.h[17:09:45] <mmu_man> googlefs: parse_html: parsing...[17:09:45] <mmu_man> error 0x00000000[17:09:46] <mmu_man> before = 0xa5a5a5a5:0xa5a5a5a5, after = 0x5a5a5a5a:0x5a5a5a5a[17:09:46] <mmu_man> before = 0xaaaa5555:0xaaaa5555, after = 0x5555aaaa:0x5555aaaa[17:10:00] <bga> And what that means? :P :)[17:10:01] <mmu_man> yes it reads the number of results but nothing more[17:10:07] <bga> There you go.[17:10:10] <mmu_man> that the html code changed once again[17:10:10] <bga> So fix it. :P :)[17:10:30] <mmu_man> at least I chose not to use the SOAP API :P[17:10:40] <mmu_man> wouldn't be fixable then =)[17:10:57] <bga> :P[17:11:18] <mmu_man> hmm[17:11:22] <mmu_man> xemacs /tmp/google.html[17:11:23] <mmu_man> :)[17:11:36] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[17:12:05] *** OliverRD has joined #haiku[17:12:12] <mmu_man> hey OliverRD :)[17:12:16] <mmu_man> long time no see[17:12:21] *** OliverRD is now known as urnenfeld[17:12:26] <urnenfeld> :) hey[17:12:34] <urnenfeld> how's life?[17:12:38] <bga> mmu_man: BTW, do you have any idea why net_server was removed again from the Bootscript?[17:12:48] <mmu_man> dunno[17:12:53] <mmu_man> was it really used ?[17:13:02] <bga> yes. It is responsible for handling DHCP.[17:13:05] <mmu_man> urnenfeld still not perfect[17:13:26] <mmu_man> maybe it is linked from /etc/net.d/ or something like in bone ?[17:13:30] <mmu_man> for inetd[17:14:14] <bga> mmu_man: Stop talking and fix googlefs! I want to demosntrate it here.[17:14:34] <bga> mmu_man: No, it is not. It is not being run at all.[17:14:44] <mmu_man> <div class=g> that's still here[17:15:10] <mmu_man> grrr[17:15:11] <mmu_man> #define G_BEGIN_URL "<div class=g><a class=l href=\""[17:15:31] <mmu_man> but it's now <div class=g><a href="..." class=l>[17:15:32] <mmu_man> stupid[17:16:10] <mmu_man> I hope it's always this and not once in a while[17:16:22] <mmu_man> else I'll have to dig it and learn how to write a real parser :D[17:17:56] *** procton has quit IRC[17:18:12] <mmu_man> ok seems to fix it[17:20:02] <mmu_man> svn is slow today[17:20:39] *** wildur has quit IRC[17:21:51] <mmu_man> svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: Connection closed unexpectedly[17:21:53] <mmu_man> grmbl[17:25:07] <mmu_man> done[17:25:10] <mmu_man> oh, CIA is gone[17:25:15] <mmu_man> bga :)[17:25:51] <mmu_man> CIA-17 hey shake your (silicon) body![17:26:15] <CIA-17> mmu_man * r20770 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/googlefs/parse_google_html.c:[17:26:15] <CIA-17> Fix (again) the tokens used to parse google's brain dead html code. Why are they swapping class and href in the <[17:26:15] <CIA-17> a/> tag anyway ???[17:26:32] <absabs> CIA back;)[17:27:41] *** MikeW has quit IRC[17:28:09] <mmu_man> hmm I use uint32, that's the main reason for OS.h bga[17:29:55] *** santagada has joined #haiku[17:31:04] *** absabs has quit IRC[17:37:10] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[17:38:09] *** knoedel has joined #haiku[17:38:11] *** guildencrantz has quit IRC[17:38:40] *** guildencrantz has joined #haiku[17:38:44] <mmu_man> bbl[17:38:50] <mmu_man> bga hope it works now[17:38:51] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:39:07] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[17:39:24] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[17:44:07] *** arikato has joined #haiku[17:46:48] *** knoedel has quit IRC[17:47:24] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[17:47:54] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[17:52:25] *** Sloar has quit IRC[17:54:51] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[17:58:49] <CIA-17> axeld * r20771 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/TermWindow.h: Header was not self-containing.[18:05:48] *** myob has 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usually disable net_server locally so i might have done it, but it seems i've never commited it[19:16:24] *** _konrad has joined #haiku[19:16:43] <SiCuTDeUx> bad _hugo[19:17:12] <SiCuTDeUx> uhh... is nice to feal my face again...[19:17:56] *** SprMa has quit IRC[19:19:17] *** Korli has joined #haiku[19:19:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[19:20:24] * SiCuTDeUx just comming back from the thooth voodoo specialist[19:24:13] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[19:29:55] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[19:35:26] *** BNickName has joined #haiku[19:37:11] *** BNickName has quit IRC[19:38:00] *** jevin has quit IRC[19:39:11] *** Begasus_bbl has quit IRC[19:39:25] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[19:43:04] *** urnenfeld has left #haiku[19:45:51] *** Korli has quit IRC[19:50:06] *** _konrad has quit IRC[20:06:57] *** rgb has joined #haiku[20:10:24] *** wkornewald has joined #haiku[20:15:39] *** Euver has quit IRC[20:19:28] <_hugo> hey wkornewald[20:20:45] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[20:32:37] <wkornewald> hi 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there's time though[21:33:31] <_hugo> *get to[21:37:25] <emitrax> I think I'll do everything next week[21:37:48] <emitrax> I hope they don't use paychecks this year[21:39:10] *** MikeW has quit IRC[21:43:22] *** jevin has joined #haiku[21:43:52] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[21:44:54] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[21:49:17] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[21:56:49] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[21:57:04] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[21:59:22] *** MrRagga has joined #haiku[22:09:59] *** Euver has joined #haiku[22:21:37] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:21:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[22:21:46] * DeadYak plops mmu_man[22:22:13] <mmu_man> documentary about Google on arte tonight[22:22:17] <mmu_man> then Gates & Jobs :)[22:22:21] <mmu_man> plop[22:22:33] <mmu_man> http://www.arte.tv/fr/70.html[22:23:11] <emitrax> quick question: what was the command to generate a vmware haiku image ?[22:23:16] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[22:24:49] <_hugo> emitrax: jam haiku-vmware-image[22:25:16] <emitrax> perfect thanks[22:25:19] <_hugo> np[22:25:48] <emitrax> how is it going with the tcp/ip stack ?[22:28:32] <_hugo> good i guess :-)[22:28:55] *** Minbari_work has joined #haiku[22:29:01] *** StylusEater_Work has left #haiku[22:30:01] <kokito> mmu_man, did they ever release the video of your Haiku presentation at NUMERICA?[22:30:34] <mmu_man> no, didn't get a reply[22:30:42] <mmu_man> I'll poke them[22:32:09] <petterhj> _hugo: is it just my setup, or does wget downloads (especially of big files) often stall?[22:37:46] *** echelog has joined #haiku[22:38:24] *** mazon has joined #haiku[22:39:15] <mmu_man> btw my current install (yesterday's build) reboots after loading the gfx driver[22:39:45] <mmu_man> or maybe i'ts teh debug usb stack[22:40:14] <mmu_man> hmm won't have time to serial debug[22:40:14] *** Minbari_work has quit IRC[22:40:14] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[22:50:35] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20775 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/tcp/ (TCPEndpoint.cpp tcp.cpp tcp.h): TCP: added SACK definitions and option processing.[22:52:47] *** Euver has quit IRC[23:04:34] *** MikeW has quit IRC[23:05:55] *** bga has quit IRC[23:06:13] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:09:53] *** Thom_Holwerda has joined #haiku[23:11:12] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:11:29] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[23:12:04] *** [1]rgb has quit IRC[23:13:55] *** JamesB192 has joined #haiku[23:17:46] *** siarzhuk has quit IRC[23:20:06] *** TLF has joined #haiku[23:24:09] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[23:35:10] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[23:35:54] *** TTRanger has joined #Haiku[23:36:24] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[23:40:35] *** TTRanger has joined #Haiku[23:40:56] *** Thom_Holwerda has quit IRC[23:41:26] <TTRanger> mmu_man[23:41:32] *** JamesB192 has joined #haiku[23:44:32] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:45:10] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[23:45:13] *** TTLauncher has joined #Haiku[23:45:36] <TTLauncher> mmu[23:45:39] <TTLauncher> mmu_man[23:47:11] <TTLauncher> mmu_man Do you have some sort of patch that is supposed to help BeOS to be able to handle faster processors, to help keep the clock from getting off?[23:48:13] *** TTLauncher has quit IRC[23:54:24] <mmu_man> yes[23:55:45] *** TTRanger has joined #Haiku[23:55:54] *** pikapika has joined #haiku[23:56:10] <TTRanger> mmu_man Sorry for popping in and out so much...was having a problem here. Did you answer already?[23:56:27] <mmu_man> [23:59] <mmu_man> yes[23:56:36] <mmu_man> hmm[23:56:47] <mmu_man> well the vmware patch can help maybe[23:56:47] <TTRanger> mmu_man Yes, you have such a patch?[23:56:53] <mmu_man> wasn't there one on bebits anyway ?[23:56:59] <pikapika> hello[23:57:01] <TTRanger> oh, maybe so[23:57:41] <TTRanger> Wow, new sound recorder over there!!!!!!!!![23:57:52] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[23:58:13] *** wildur has quit IRC[23:58:26] <TTRanger> mmu_man Which of these two first ones listed?[23:58:27] <TTRanger> http://www.bebits.com/search?search=clock+patch&x=-726&y=-182[23:58:37] *** jevin has quit IRC[23:59:58] *** emitrax has quit IRC