April 10, 2007 
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April 10, 2007 [00:00:26] *** axeld has joined #Haiku[00:00:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[00:00:45] <Jin> omg it'[00:00:47] <Jin> s axel[00:01:08] *** _stippi_ has joined #haiku[00:01:15] *** Korli has joined #haiku[00:01:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[00:01:22] *** Sloar has quit IRC[00:07:28] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[00:08:18] *** shackan has quit IRC[00:10:41] <geist> sup axel[00:12:17] <axeld> Hi geist![00:12:57] <axeld> geist: just returned from all the family I visited in the past few days[00:19:55] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[00:20:49] *** jevin has quit IRC[00:24:28] *** b3w has joined #haiku[00:24:46] *** wkornewald has joined #haiku[00:25:13] *** wkornewald has quit IRC[00:29:17] <CIA-17> axeld * r20626 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/raw/ (RAW.cpp RAW.h RAWTranslator.cpp): Now puts the EXIF data verbatim into the message passed to Translate().[00:33:42] *** pikapika has quit IRC[00:34:58] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:36:05] *** oco has quit IRC[00:36:22] *** b3w__ has joined #haiku[00:40:40] *** b3w_ has quit IRC[00:42:51] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[00:50:14] *** b3w has quit IRC[00:51:07] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[00:51:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[00:51:26] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20627 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/tcp/EndpointManager.cpp: Set proper address on BindToEphemeral().[00:51:28] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20628 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): added 'netcat', which is particularly helpful debugging TCP.[00:51:53] * mphipps pets _hugo_[00:51:55] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20629 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/ (5 files in 2 dirs):[00:51:55] <CIA-17> A couple more TCP fixes.[00:51:55] <CIA-17> - ipv4_bind() was broken when binding to addresses not INADDR_ANY, as it wasn't copying the address to the socket, fixed.[00:51:55] <CIA-17> - fixed a small issue in TCP's BindToEphemeral where the correct address might not have been bound to the socket.[00:51:56] <CIA-17> - some assorted TCP wait lists fixes.[00:51:58] <CIA-17> - fixed TCP's Connect() over the loopback interface, we might already be ESTABLISHED after _SendQueue() returns.[00:52:01] <CIA-17> - fixed the amount of time we wait in TCP's Accept().[00:52:53] <MYOB> mphipps working out a lot better than the last networking student, eh :P[00:53:02] * mphipps troutslaps Cian[00:53:40] <_hugo> :-)[00:53:49] <_hugo> i have to leave for a bit, see you guys later[00:55:44] <MYOB> mphipps well, its true. Andrew didn't, erm, do much...[00:59:46] *** guildencrantz has quit IRC[00:59:51] <Sikosis> nice work _hugo[01:07:57] *** Korli has quit IRC[01:15:16] *** MYOB has quit IRC[01:16:35] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[01:18:57] <_stippi_> _hugo: you rock[01:19:02] <_stippi_> good night[01:19:13] *** _stippi_ has quit IRC[01:19:54] *** mphipps has left #haiku[01:22:51] <MikeW> a flying visit?[01:23:05] *** shackan has joined #haiku[01:29:05] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:32:05] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[01:36:16] *** b3w has joined #haiku[01:41:36] *** aldeck has quit IRC[01:42:27] <kokito> Sikosis! axeld![01:42:36] <Sikosis> hey kokito[01:43:57] <axeld> Hi kokito![01:44:06] <kokito> howdy guys :)[01:52:17] *** b3w__ has quit IRC[01:54:55] *** JamesB192 has joined #haiku[02:03:03] *** Mike2K has joined #haiku[02:09:50] *** sarcas has quit IRC[02:14:33] <CIA-17> axeld * r20630 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/raw/ (RAW.cpp RAW.h RAWTranslator.cpp ReadHelper.h): Now adds a fake TIFF header to the exported EXIF data so that the used endian of the data is known.[02:19:19] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:25:20] *** MikeW has quit IRC[02:30:10] <axeld> night[02:30:13] *** axeld has quit IRC[02:30:18] *** skoe has joined #haiku[02:30:26] <skoe> G'Day :D[02:30:39] <stargater> nice = http://www.biffuz.it/misc/atomocad_on_haiku.png[02:30:45] <stargater> re[02:31:01] <jali> Why is that using Win32 icons?[02:32:12] <_hugo> back[02:33:59] <stargater> jali, ka ask the developer , but i think beos/haiku have no developers icons[02:34:40] <jali> So haiku is in need of artists?[02:36:50] <stargater> ka[02:41:11] <[Katisu]> jali, icons are being made in a special format to a particular style[02:41:34] * JamesB192 thinks he knows someone who could do a good job with the icons. link coming RSN.[02:41:49] <[Katisu]> it takes quite a bit of learning[02:42:16] <[Katisu]> stippi is currently in charge of the icons[02:46:41] <JamesB192> nvm, I lost the link and I can't find it again.[02:49:03] *** Hoern has quit IRC[02:49:29] *** jspiros_ has quit IRC[02:56:04] *** jspiros has joined #haiku[02:57:37] <stargater> anyone used a ipw2100 driver in haiku ?[03:00:14] <stargater> _hugo, hi, do you work GSOC, what is your haiku job = network stack ?[03:03:25] <_hugo> stargater: the GSoC student list is not out yet[03:03:38] <_hugo> i did apply to work in the network stack, yes[03:03:46] <stargater> ah ok thx[03:18:14] *** Mike2K is now known as MikeW[03:21:03] * _hugo needs a faster disk[03:27:46] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:37:03] *** skoe has quit IRC[03:37:47] * stargater need better c/c++ skils[03:40:51] *** M_199 has quit IRC[03:42:10] <stargater> n8[03:42:13] *** stargater has quit IRC[03:44:58] <kokito> ola _hugo, tudo bem?[03:46:44] <_hugo> :-)[03:46:56] <_hugo> kokito: brasileiro?[03:47:12] <kokito> _hugo, no, argentino :)[03:47:18] <_hugo> eheh[03:47:32] <kokito> surprised?[03:47:35] <_hugo> well, you would pass by portuguese[03:47:45] *** Issac-S has joined #haiku[03:47:50] <_hugo> from your first sentence that is[03:47:52] <_hugo> :-)[03:48:02] <kokito> LOL. those are the only two words that I know.[03:48:12] <kokito> oh, one more: garota![03:48:19] <_hugo> well played then[03:48:48] <_hugo> garota is a term used in brazil, not as much in Portugal[03:48:49] <_hugo> :-)[03:48:59] <Jin> hmm[03:49:06] <Jin> I was working in BeIDE[03:49:39] <Jin> and this isn't the first time it's happened, it has also happened in Vision too, but when I type it types out in random symbols instead of letter, is there some sort of keystroke I'm hitting to cause that?[03:50:48] <kokito> Jin, I think the default keymap is Intl English; could it be that you are hitting some of the accent deadkeys?[03:51:51] <Jin> I'm not sure? it's doing it in beIDE right now[03:52:19] <Jin> example, I tried typing #include, but what I got was #[03:54:50] <kokito> hmmm... what happens when you copy the text to, say, StyledEdit?[03:55:30] <Jin> shows up the same way in StyledEdit as it does in BeIDE[04:06:27] <MikeW> Where is BGA when I need him?[04:06:41] <MikeW> grrrr[04:07:06] <MikeW> I just upgraded to google apps premiere edition in the hope I'd be able to import my gmail emails into my new google apps emails, I still can't[04:07:17] <MikeW> jeez, google really needs an account migrator thinggy[04:07:53] <MikeW> You are currently using 0 MB (0%) of your 10240 MB[04:19:52] *** absabs has joined #haiku[04:36:43] *** b3w_ has joined #haiku[04:39:11] *** Issac-S has quit IRC[04:40:45] *** arachnist has quit IRC[04:41:43] *** b3w__ has joined #haiku[04:46:52] <Jin> yay I made my first be app :)[04:47:07] <Jin> I bow down to the Be API right now compared to Windows :P[04:48:14] *** guma has joined #haiku[04:51:29] *** b3w has quit IRC[04:55:44] *** b3w_ has quit IRC[04:57:43] <Jin> oh yeah, is there any way to "alt+tab" between apps, so to speak, and is there a shortcut to minimize windows?[05:06:41] *** FuriousGeorge has joined #haiku[05:06:46] <FuriousGeorge> hey all[05:08:02] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[05:08:07] <surrounder> heya FuriousGeorge[05:10:34] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[05:12:34] *** shackan has quit IRC[05:20:33] <kokito> Jin, I am not aware of any shortcut to minimize windows[05:20:34] <Jin> um[05:20:43] <Jin> tracker crashed :S[05:20:46] <Jin> can I reopen it somehow?[05:20:58] <kokito> yes[05:21:12] <kokito> alt-ctrl-del > Restart desktop[05:21:36] <Jin> yeah I just saw that hehe[05:32:07] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[05:32:41] <Jin> is there a way to set the deskbar so it auto-hides when not in focus?[05:32:54] <Jin> lol sorry about all the noob questions, this is my 3rd serious day of using beos[05:34:39] <kokito> Jin, I don't think you can hide the deskbar[05:34:59] <Jin> I thought I heard discussion on that being possible[05:35:01] <Jin> or was that haiku?[05:35:27] <kokito> hmmm...[05:44:33] <Jin> and now that I think of it[05:44:40] <Jin> are there any decent IM clients for beos?[05:49:23] <Jin> particularily for MSN[05:49:32] <Jin> BeMSN keeps crashing on me[05:49:37] *** _hugo has quit IRC[05:51:14] <kokito> are you on BeOS or Haiku Jin?[05:51:55] <Jin> beos[05:52:12] <kokito> have you tried the imkit?[05:52:29] <PORDO> anyone know how i can get the results of the icon set election?[05:52:32] <PORDO> i'm desperate for them.[05:53:54] <Jin> PORDO, it should be in haiku's archived news, if memory serves me right[05:54:03] <Jin> and kokito, the IM kit? how will that help me?[05:54:04] *** guma has quit IRC[05:54:05] <kokito> Jin: http://www.bebits.com/app/3914[05:54:35] <kokito> it includes clients for MSN, ICQ, AIM, etc.[05:54:59] <kokito> never used it in BeOS, but in Zeta it run ok.[05:57:37] *** b3w has joined #haiku[05:57:54] <Jin> interesting[05:57:54] <Jin> thanks[05:57:56] <Jin> :D[06:00:37] <kokito> Jin, I remember it was tricky to get it to work (you need the "Support libs" on the same page); but it did work nicely, and it uses the People icons to show the online/offline status, which is cool. :)[06:01:23] <kokito> PORDO, send an email to the Haiku mailing list; you are more likely to get a reply from the Haiku admins that way.[06:13:39] *** b3w__ has quit IRC[06:14:22] *** kb7sqi has joined #haiku[06:15:02] <PORDO> i have done that.[06:15:05] <PORDO> no response. :([06:15:28] <PORDO> jin i mean the actual ballots.[06:15:39] <PORDO> every single voter's scores for all the icon sets.[06:16:23] <Jin> aah[06:16:26] <PORDO> Jin you are using "BeOS"?[06:16:28] <PORDO> or haiku?[06:16:43] <Jin> BeOS[06:16:44] <PORDO> how the heck could you be using beos on modern hardware? i haven't used it in about 5 years.[06:21:01] *** MikeW has quit IRC[06:22:17] <kokito> PORDO, the admins would have that data (if it still exists), and they are not usually here.[06:24:05] <PORDO> cool.[06:24:16] <PORDO> well, i've emailed them...so i'll see what comes of it.[06:24:43] <kokito> PORDO, you may want to wait a couple of days and resend the message if you still get no reply. :)[06:29:01] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[06:30:28] <kokito> wb umccullough[06:30:33] <umccullough> thx kokito[06:30:52] <umccullough> just trying to catch up ... apparently some emergencies at work today that I (conveniently) missed :D[06:31:35] <umccullough> hrm, echelog no worky[06:32:33] <geist> meep[06:39:52] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[06:43:46] *** absabs has left #haiku[06:55:53] *** stargater has joined #haiku[07:00:23] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[07:02:12] <geist> hmm, guess I need to respond to the scheduler mail[07:02:23] <geist> someone actually wrote back saying 'are you sure the kernel guys saw it?'[07:04:06] <stargater> moin[07:07:26] <umccullough> geist, oh yeah, i was gonna ask you about that and forgot ;)[07:08:49] *** Jin has quit IRC[07:11:37] *** jeremy_c has joined #haiku[07:12:45] <jeremy_c> Trying for the first time in Parallels. Any tricks? I setup for 256mb, Windows, Windows 98, the latest test image, 120mb resize. The boot image appears then blue screen with mouse cursor, but nothing after that. Cannot move cursor either.[07:13:01] *** _hugo has joined #haiku[07:13:11] <_hugo> plonk[07:13:28] <geist> _hugo: merg[07:13:37] <_hugo> borg![07:13:41] * _hugo assimilates[07:14:45] <_hugo> geist: ill trade your g5 for tea[07:14:48] <umccullough> jeremy_c, serial debug?[07:15:38] <jeremy_c> hm. by first time I mean first time ever trying Haiku. Maybe I should try it tomorrow. Just figured it would be something quick to see before calling it a night.[07:16:10] <jeremy_c> I used BeOS v4 and 5. When they quit, I quit using it.[07:16:35] <umccullough> jeremy_c, parallels should have a way to output serial output to a text file - that will help determine where it hangs[07:17:13] <stargater> scotty beam me up[07:17:26] * geist beams stargater into a rock[07:17:51] * _hugo beams everyone to the restaurant in the end of galaxy[07:18:16] * _hugo sighs[07:18:19] <_hugo> my disk is slow[07:18:52] <_hugo> wish i had plenty of memory to make a ramdisk and still all my sources and objects there :-)[07:18:58] <stargater> oh[07:18:58] <_hugo> and stick even[07:19:53] <geist> mo memory ftw[07:20:31] <_hugo> i would be happy with a decent disk in this machine eheh (mac mini, dual core)[07:20:42] <geist> chuck norris doesn't need a fast hard drive[07:20:43] <_hugo> crunches fast, starves too fast[07:21:06] <geist> how much ram does it have?[07:21:09] <jeremy_c> hm, I'll work with it. I got a serial out. I disabled Network (seemed to be hanging there), but also disabled bluetooth. It booted.[07:21:13] <_hugo> 1.25G now[07:21:14] <jeremy_c> and I am in now.[07:21:21] <geist> jeremy_c: excellent[07:21:34] <_hugo> jeremy_c: its not the networks fault![07:21:46] * _hugo ducks[07:22:06] <jeremy_c> oh, I disabled sound... well, let me enable network and see if it hangs. hold on.[07:22:23] <_hugo> jeremy_c: nah, im joking. i think the nic parallel uses is not well supported yet[07:22:28] <kokito> _hugo > http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1149[07:22:49] <stargater> moin kokito[07:23:01] <_hugo> yes! beshare is almost running here kokito[07:23:12] <_hugo> only one commit to go after the one im going to do now[07:23:24] <geist> yeah, dont turn on networking[07:23:25] <kokito> cool![07:23:30] <geist> this guy has been totally screwing it up lately[07:23:34] <jeremy_c> ne2000 pci ethernet card found - 00:0c:fc:22:0b:e5 ... Interrupts installed at a ... etherpci: control: ETHER_INIT ... etherpci: control: GET_ADDR ... register_domain(4, link) ... dead[07:23:46] <kokito> hey stargater[07:23:54] <_hugo> its not my fault the nic doesnt cooperate :-P[07:24:00] <umccullough> jeremy_c, that driver is... kinda crappy ;)[07:24:22] <umccullough> _hugo, is it due to the driver changes that were made recently?[07:24:33] <_hugo> umccullough: i dont know of any changes in that area[07:24:43] <umccullough> etherpci was NOT one of the ones I saw change... but many of the others did[07:24:48] <kokito> I was also trying BeGet, and it starts, but it complains that it cannot find wget :([07:24:53] <_hugo> the only recent changes are concerning media status[07:25:13] <_hugo> umccullough: yep, but nothing related to transmit or receive[07:25:24] <umccullough> ah - but I thought I saw some of the hooks get shifted around[07:25:35] <umccullough> i guess that doesn't matter[07:25:36] <stargater> good network stack and bad driver , thats is a mainstream hell :-) /*joke[07:25:46] <_hugo> nothing that could affect the driver (famous last words)[07:25:52] <geist> _hugo: dont you try to hide it. you kow you been messin it up[07:25:53] <umccullough> heh[07:25:59] <_hugo> geist: its a secret[07:26:05] <geist> to everybody[07:26:12] <_hugo> even to me <:-)[07:26:31] <TheDave> moin[07:26:36] * umccullough considers for a second that _hugo could be an anti-Haiku terrorist out to destroy the project[07:26:53] * _hugo pets his imaginary cat[07:27:06] <TheDave> hmm, is icon-o-matic farked atm?[07:27:13] <TheDave> refuses to build here[07:27:45] <_hugo> TheDave: update please[07:27:46] <umccullough> i think stephan checked in another change to fix the build, no?[07:28:06] <TheDave> _hugo: done that already[07:28:18] <_hugo> TheDave: should be ok then[07:28:33] <umccullough> doesn't qemu also use ne2000 emulation? and thus it can also be used to test etherpci driver?[07:28:44] <_hugo> if it does, i can give it a go[07:28:57] <umccullough> i believe it does...[07:29:10] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20631 /haiku/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):[07:29:10] <CIA-17> Fixed some more TCP issues.[07:29:10] <CIA-17> - Properly flag sockets using non-blocking connects() when in SYN SENT.[07:29:10] <CIA-17> - and when in LISTEN, we should use the socket's connection queue size.[07:29:24] * _hugo checks qemu[07:29:31] <geist> there you go. he's busticating it[07:29:32] <umccullough> The QEMU PC System emulator simulates the following peripherals:[07:29:33] <umccullough> * i440FX host PCI bridge and PIIX3 PCI to ISA bridge[07:29:33] <umccullough> * Cirrus CLGD 5446 PCI VGA card or dummy VGA card with Bochs VESA extensions (hardware level, including all non standard modes).[07:29:33] <umccullough> * PS/2 mouse and keyboard[07:29:33] <umccullough> * 2 PCI IDE interfaces with hard disk and CD-ROM support[07:29:34] <umccullough> * Floppy disk[07:29:37] <umccullough> * NE2000 PCI network adapters[07:29:38] <umccullough> * Serial ports[07:29:40] <umccullough> * Creative SoundBlaster 16 sound card[07:29:43] <umccullough> * ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370 sound card[07:29:58] * _hugo adds the original SYN to the network stack[07:30:16] <_hugo> umccullough: ah, cool[07:30:21] <geist> you refilling the stack with SYNs eh?[07:30:31] <_hugo> SYNs and apples[07:30:42] <_hugo> preparing for the winter[07:31:28] <Teknomancer> hm, is there an Apple office in india i wonder :))[07:31:31] <TheDave> yay, i can finally start looking into the graphics :D[07:31:50] <umccullough> mm... i have an SMC card that purports to be ne2k[07:32:14] <jeremy_c> So, how does one go about developing apps in Haiku? user apps? I'm a developer by trade and heart[07:32:18] <_hugo> we have to fix this 'pages still have mappins' VM bug :-)[07:32:23] <geist> i have a ne2k somewhere around here[07:32:24] * _hugo points at geist[07:32:27] * umccullough isn't sure purports was the right word[07:32:30] <geist> oh? what's the bug?[07:32:44] <geist> got an easy way to reproduce? I'm up for trying to fix it[07:32:59] <_hugo> geist: some recent file caching patch (i think) randomly borks the VM here. its pretty random though[07:33:10] <geist> ick[07:33:19] <TheDave> i can usually repro it by just starting haiku in qemu on this machine[07:33:21] <_hugo> i get it mostly when booting a VM[07:33:22] <geist> how does it manifest iself?[07:33:36] <_hugo> i would say around once every 20 or 30 runs[07:33:41] <_hugo> so its hard to catch :-)[07:33:51] <umccullough> jeremy_c, development for R5 is pretty much the key[07:33:59] <umccullough> as in BeOS R5[07:33:59] <geist> does it blow up, or it is pretty obvious?[07:34:00] <TheDave> it's nearly every boot for me, like 9 times out of 10[07:34:10] <_hugo> geist: goes to KDL[07:34:19] <jeremy_c> umccullough: development *in* R5 then copied?[07:34:22] <_hugo> umccullough: etherpci is working here in qemu[07:34:31] <_hugo> even obtains an address from the DHCP server[07:34:36] <umccullough> jeremy_c, that's one way, yes - since Haiku is mostly source AND binary compatible[07:34:44] <_hugo> so im guessing its some quirk with parallels' implementation[07:35:04] <umccullough> jeremy_c, currently to build for haiku directly, one generally has to use the haiku build system...[07:35:05] <stargater> not a bad idear :-) http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1109[07:35:06] * jeremy_c no longer has any R4 or R5 stuff.[07:35:20] <geist> if the driver hangs, i'd look for any potential infinite loop in the driver code[07:35:30] <geist> might be hitting that (waiting for a chip reset, etc)[07:35:34] <jeremy_c> Does R5 even work on a Pentium4? I think that was one problem I had.[07:35:45] <umccullough> jeremy_c, many successfully use BeOS Max[07:35:59] <umccullough> pentium 4 aren't a problem - AMD Athlons are - and require a kernel patch/hack[07:36:10] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[07:36:18] <Begasus> morning peeps[07:36:32] <Begasus> jeremy_c! nice to see you back in the scene ;)[07:36:36] <umccullough> evenings Begasus[07:36:45] <_hugo> geist: well, only if its in the interrupt handler[07:36:49] <_hugo> i will have a look[07:37:06] <Begasus> hya umccullough[07:37:14] <stargater> hi Begasus[07:37:16] <geist> _hugo: that too[07:37:30] <geist> though a lot of times these drivers have those 'spin while a flag isn't set' kind of logic all over the place[07:37:39] <geist> and those are the kind sof things you can trip over with 'weird' hardware[07:37:49] <_hugo> geist: yep. most of those loops have a maximum iteration count though. at least in this driver[07:37:56] <geist> an gppd[07:37:59] <geist> ah good even[07:38:50] <_hugo> hm, this driver is a bit different from the rest[07:39:18] <jeremy_c> huh. BeOS Max is one I actually can install on my pc?[07:39:39] <umccullough> _hugo, that etherpci driver is almost a direct port of the original be sample code version I believe[07:39:46] <_hugo> i see[07:40:05] <umccullough> jeremy_c, yes - it's a rehash of R5 PE with an installer[07:40:16] <jeremy_c> cool. thanks.[07:40:20] <umccullough> linky?[07:40:37] <umccullough> http://www.beosmax.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page[07:40:42] <_hugo> who had parallels'? was it jeremy_c?[07:40:50] <jeremy_c> _hugo: yes[07:40:59] <_hugo> does parallels' have a serial output?[07:41:10] <jeremy_c> _hugo: yes. It'll go to a tcp port or file[07:41:23] <_hugo> jeremy_c: the image you tested, did you compile it yourself?[07:41:34] <jeremy_c> _hugo: no, latest download[07:41:38] <_hugo> ah[07:41:46] <_hugo> there is some debug stuff we can enable in the driver[07:42:11] <_hugo> would be nice to get some info from the interrupt handler[07:42:20] <jeremy_c> To get serial port info, you click Add... (add new device), then serial port, then it asks log to file or tcp? choose and be done.[07:42:59] <_hugo> i have parallels, but i currently only have a devel machine (and its the same which has macosx) so it would be hard for me to test[07:43:28] <geist> you could, say, run parallels on the dev machine[07:43:53] <_hugo> geist: then i cant compile :^)[07:44:01] <geist> whyso not?[07:44:18] <umccullough> no dual-boot-y?[07:44:27] <_hugo> well, i could, but i would have to reboot to linux. and thats a terrible turnaround[07:44:38] <geist> or you could boot into linux on parallels :)[07:44:51] * jeremy_c is going to split for now, too tired. thanks for the help.[07:45:01] <_hugo> geist: ugh :-P[07:45:24] <geist> guess you dont have it set up that way[07:45:25] <umccullough> 1.25gb memory...[07:45:44] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[07:45:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[07:45:49] <stargater> moin mmu_man[07:45:50] <_hugo> ill try to test it soon[07:45:57] <_hugo> have an image ready and just get the serial output[07:46:03] <_hugo> but its a pain to make changes though[07:46:06] <_hugo> and quickly test[07:46:13] <mmu_man> plop[07:46:19] <geist> but that reminds me, I haven't booted into my linux install on parallels on my MBP i a while[07:46:51] <Teknomancer> going to try and write a patricia trie algo :)[07:46:54] <Teknomancer> bbl[07:47:51] <_hugo> mmu_man: you are up early[07:48:10] <mmu_man> expected visitor ...[07:48:15] <_hugo> eheh[07:48:18] <mmu_man> and I need to clean the flat :D[07:48:26] <_hugo> painful day i see[07:49:29] <umccullough> so.. _hugo did you say something about BeShare?[07:49:30] <stargater> a CAD app for haiku :-) http://www.atomocad.com/[07:49:59] <_hugo> umccullough: its almost running here. im just finishing implementing something that is missing from net_buffer and it should work[07:50:01] <umccullough> stargater, lol[07:50:22] <umccullough> _hugo, that will get headlines ;)[07:50:40] <umccullough> at least in the beos community - possibly on osnews[07:51:12] <_hugo> early deadlines arent good i think. people will feel the urge to test it and then bump into KDL "page still has mappings"[07:51:18] <mmu_man> _hugo I see we have netcat :)[07:51:21] <stargater> and syllable becames a CAD too http://syllable.org/story.php?id=260[07:51:21] <_hugo> headlines even[07:51:34] <mmu_man> ported that long ago... (well it wasn't much work IIRC anyway)[07:51:39] <_hugo> mmu_man: yeah, feel free to change it though. i just grabbed a version from somewhere and compiled it[07:51:55] <mmu_man> I just had to change one or two lines for BONE IIRC[07:52:07] <mmu_man> at that time it didn't have a configure script even[07:52:12] <umccullough> _hugo, it'll happen anyway... Haiku needs to just expect it now[07:52:18] <_hugo> i had to remove a missing #include which we dont have and it worked out of the box i think[07:52:29] <_hugo> mmu_man: this one didnt either[07:53:06] <mmu_man> remind me to port my tun/tap driver :)[07:53:18] <_hugo> umccullough: im all for publicity when most of the known bugs are fixed. because people will find new ones, eheh[07:53:23] <_hugo> mmu_man: do it![07:53:59] <umccullough> _hugo, the cork just ain't going back in the bottle any more[07:54:09] <_hugo> plonk[07:54:14] <umccullough> blame geist[07:54:19] * _hugo blames geist[07:54:27] * geist blames himself[07:54:32] * _hugo pets geist[07:54:33] <geist> so, what did I do?[07:54:59] <umccullough> geist, you should blame your previous employer for discouraging your pariticipation in fixing kernel issues ;)[07:55:17] <_hugo> Apple?[07:55:25] <umccullough> now you've said it![07:55:51] <_hugo> geist: Apple discouraged your participation?[07:56:16] <geist> pretty much, yeah[07:56:32] <_hugo> that sucks[07:56:37] <_hugo> was it your manager?[07:56:41] <_hugo> or did you ask?[07:56:48] <geist> they didn't specifically say it, but you're really not supposed to do stuff that pseudo competes with the company[07:56:57] <_hugo> ah[07:57:01] <geist> but that's fine, I didn't have any time to work on anything anyway[07:57:08] <mmu_man> http://www.bebits.com/devprofile/5907 pff :))[07:57:24] <geist> and I didn't really feel comfortable doing haiku stuff on the side *anyway* given what I was doing at work[07:57:40] <_hugo> i see[07:57:41] <geist> so that i didn't pollute the project[07:57:46] <_hugo> yeah makes sense[07:57:49] <umccullough> mmu_man, who moderates bebits these days? seems like nobody seems to care any more[07:57:57] <mmu_man> hmm "Think Different" (tm)[07:58:16] <mmu_man> does this mean that their devs aren't allowed to Think Different than the Different Apple use ?[07:58:24] <umccullough> "[07:58:25] <umccullough> AVI MPEG Video Converter works on Windows operating system only. It does not work on non-windows system like MAC, OS2, Linux, Unix, and so on.[07:58:25] <_hugo> mmu_man: you are too critical, eheh[07:58:36] <mmu_man> oh forgot the smiley :D[07:58:45] <_hugo> mmu_man: this isnt the 80s anymore[07:58:46] <_hugo> :-)[07:58:50] <mmu_man> _hugo not at all, you should see when I am :)[07:59:25] <_hugo> vi![08:00:38] <mmu_man> XEmacs \o/[08:00:56] <mmu_man> seems noone is liking my BMenuBar-based toolbar :-([08:01:04] <_hugo> eheh[08:04:54] <umccullough> _hugo, what linux distro you run again?[08:05:07] <_hugo> umccullough: ubuntu currently[08:05:13] <umccullough> k, just curious[08:05:30] <_hugo> but its starting to be silly, so i might go back to debian[08:06:02] * _hugo curses at /usr/bin/command-not-found[08:06:06] *** absabs has joined #haiku[08:10:52] <stargater> hmm beos looks sometimes as windows98 http://www.video-converter.net/images/main.gif[08:11:04] <mmu_man> bbl[08:11:23] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[08:11:28] *** mmu_man has quit 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dog[08:23:38] * geist disables SMP and see if that works any better[08:24:05] <geist> oh heh, wait it didn't actually update the partition. that was an old build :)[08:24:23] <_hugo> eheh[08:24:44] <geist> it's a new install of linux I'm using to install the partition, and I hadn't set the pers to let me write to /dev/hda3[08:27:21] <geist> okay, it still fails, but with something more interesting[08:55:38] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[09:00:53] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[09:02:18] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[09:30:31] *** kokito has quit IRC[09:34:28] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[09:38:10] <_hugo> im connected to beshare :>[09:38:13] <_hugo> in haiku that is[09:38:41] <Teknomancer> _hugo cool[09:44:25] *** nielx__ has joined #haiku[09:44:28] *** nielx__ is now known as nielx[09:55:13] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[09:56:51] * umccullough goes to add BeShare to his haiku build in anticipation[09:58:27] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[10:00:53] <_hugo> umccullough: i still havent commited[10:00:55] <_hugo> the stuff[10:01:12] <_hugo> still fixing an issue[10:01:44] <umccullough> i know[10:01:55] <umccullough> i mean, i know you haven't committed ;)[10:02:09] <umccullough> code that is[10:02:10] <umccullough> :P[10:02:12] <_hugo> eheh[10:02:50] <umccullough> i guess all i need to run beshare is the one binary?[10:02:59] <_hugo> BeShare.x86[10:03:14] <_hugo> not sure it needs any of the stuff inside[10:03:41] <umccullough> yeah, i think it runs all by itself :)[10:07:54] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[10:09:06] <umccullough> hmm... i should go to sleep - have a 4 hour drive tomorrow morning, and i gotta wake up in 5 hours[10:09:13] <umccullough> or 6 if I sleep in a bit ;)[10:09:48] <nielx> oh please, stop whining :-)[10:09:52] <nielx> I had a two hour drive[10:09:55] <nielx> 10 hour workday[10:10:01] <nielx> and two hour drive back yesterday[10:10:04] <nielx> on two hours of sleep[10:10:15] <nielx> and in the evening I went out for drinks[10:12:08] <umccullough> :)[10:12:45] <umccullough> sounds like my weekend - except replace work with gambling/drinking[10:13:52] <umccullough> the tricky part of my 4 hour drive tomorrow will be the 3 kids in the car[10:14:49] <nielx> ah, I have not created/imported those creatures[10:14:52] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[10:15:09] <umccullough> they add a new level of "enjoyment" to road trips[10:16:52] *** Proctop has joined #haiku[10:16:54] <umccullough> and it will also be a nice reminder of the last time we traveled the same route with all the kids in the car[10:17:13] <nielx> you should drug them[10:17:14] <umccullough> when we witnessed a head-on collision that killed two elderly people in the lane next to us[10:17:21] <nielx> ah, that's bad[10:18:07] <umccullough> yeah, the one specific route we take has a history of bad accidents - 8 died in that week on the same stretch of road last year[10:18:17] <nielx> hmmm, badly designed road?[10:18:21] <umccullough> yes[10:18:46] *** mazon is now 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things[10:21:39] <umccullough> got it... interesting[10:21:42] <Teknomancer> what are those?[10:21:43] <Teknomancer> :P[10:21:44] <umccullough> that would never fly here in the US[10:21:49] <_hugo> ah, the joy of downloading stuff from beshare[10:22:08] <umccullough> which binky are you?[10:22:14] <nielx> also, on smaller country roads they removed all road markings, which make the road look smaller and makes people more careful when overtaking other vehicles[10:22:53] <nielx> Teknomancer: yield sign?[10:23:12] <_hugo> umccullough: able to see me?[10:23:18] <umccullough> _hugo, yep[10:23:33] <umccullough> although, i have to switch to my R5 box as it's a different machine on my KVM[10:23:40] <Teknomancer> nielx yeah even if it were there its just a sign to be ignored :)[10:23:43] <nielx> see http://www.gratistheorie.nl/auto/verkeersborden/voorrang/pb06.htm[10:23:46] <nielx> it's not one to be ignored[10:23:47] <_hugo> ill commit this stuff in a bit. i just need to clean it up a bit[10:23:49] <Teknomancer> i saw those saw tooth and diamond signs in Belgium[10:23:54] <Teknomancer> nielx here it is :P[10:24:24] <umccullough> _hugo, you were able to see my replies right?[10:24:36] *** arikato has quit IRC[10:24:37] <nielx> The whole array of 'priority' signs in Holland are here: http://proto.thinkquest.nl/~klb019/B-Borden.htm[10:24:42] <_hugo> hm, not really. so maybe something is broken :-)[10:24:48] <umccullough> ew :([10:24:48] <_hugo> im still downloading my file though[10:24:55] <umccullough> ok[10:25:04] <_hugo> umccullough: did you get "this one"?[10:25:20] <umccullough> i'll try again when the d/l is done then ;)[10:25:20] <umccullough> yes[10:25:57] <_hugo> umccullough: do you get my pings?[10:25:59] <umccullough> _hugo, you see my pong?[10:26:00] <nielx> to paint a complete picture, in case of the yield sign, you will find these markings on the road: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haaientanden_(verkeer)[10:26:05] <nielx> that's the traffic lesson for today :-)[10:26:09] <umccullough> _hugo, i guess that's a no :([10:26:10] <_hugo> umccullough: nope. will you be around in 1 min?[10:26:15] <umccullough> yeah[10:26:26] <umccullough> _hugo, i sent you a private message also[10:26:53] <_hugo> lets try it in a bit[10:26:56] <_hugo> let me just connect[10:27:17] <umccullough> ok, let me know and i'll switch over[10:27:40] <_hugo> umccullough: now please[10:28:01] <umccullough> get that one?[10:28:04] <_hugo> yep[10:28:09] <umccullough> ok[10:28:20] <_hugo> i have a log of the previous trial, ill check for problems[10:30:11] <umccullough> ok, definitely time for bed now[10:30:13] <_hugo> :-)[10:30:14] <_hugo> night[10:30:28] <umccullough> 'night[10:30:31] *** umccullough has left #haiku[10:34:43] <Teknomancer> can someone tell me where "atomic_add" is implemented in Haiku ?[10:37:45] <Ingenu> not me[10:38:31] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[10:43:23] <nielx> I've been looking for it as well :-)[10:44:52] <Teknomancer> somewhere in the kernel but where[10:44:57] <Teknomancer> wanna see the asm code :P[10:46:15] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[10:46:48] <raph_ael> hello[10:46:58] <_hugo> Teknomancer: in x86 the atomic_add is probably something like "lock; addl"[10:47:35] <Teknomancer> _hugo yeah i know just wanted to see the full func... just seeing some lock;xchgl and wondered about atomic_add[10:51:06] <_hugo> Teknomancer: well[10:51:15] <_hugo> src/system/libroot/os/arch/x86/atomic.S[10:51:19] <_hugo> would be the place to look at[10:51:43] <Teknomancer> _hugo ok thanks[10:51:46] <_hugo> no problem[10:52:41] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:54:13] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[10:54:58] <_hugo> i think it would be nice to have inline versions though. although im not sure if gcc 2.95 inlines asm()s[10:56:59] *** nielx has quit IRC[10:59:52] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:59:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[11:00:07] *** b3w_ has joined #haiku[11:01:29] *** mmadia has quit IRC[11:10:18] <Teknomancer> 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Right now a little window just pops up saying,[14:54:37] <TTRanger> <window id="main-window"[14:54:38] <TTRanger> ^ <menu id="helpMenu"[15:02:55] *** doppeljot has left #haiku[15:05:15] <mmu_man> plop[15:05:51] <miqlas> glug[15:06:53] <TTRanger> hi mmu_man[15:06:58] <TTRanger> mmu_man feeling any better?[15:08:26] <mmu_man> dunno, sorry[15:08:47][15:12:19] *** arikato has quit IRC[15:32:07] *** guma has quit IRC[15:35:17] <CIA-17> axeld * r20634 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/raw/ (RAW.cpp RAWTranslator.cpp):[15:35:17] <CIA-17> * Now keeps the orientation as defined in EXIF, instead of converting it to something[15:35:17] <CIA-17> handy for computation.[15:35:17] <CIA-17> * The translator now passes the EXIF orientation to the thumbnail translation using[15:35:17] <CIA-17> a special field "exif:orientation".[15:35:58] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[15:36:53] <CIA-17> axeld * r20635 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/jpeg/JPEGTranslator.cpp:[15:36:53] <CIA-17> * Now honours the orientation as specified in the EXIF tags; not very well tested, so[15:36:53] <CIA-17> it might happen that some rotations don't come out as expected...[15:36:53] <CIA-17> * This orientation can be overridden with a special "exif:orientation" setting passed[15:36:53] <CIA-17> via the ioExtension message.[15:37:12] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[15:37:58] *** Ramshankar has joined #haiku[15:40:52] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[15:41:34] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:42:03] *** NeonLicht has quit IRC[15:43:38] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[15:48:24] *** jeremy_c has joined #haiku[15:50:44] *** arikato has joined #haiku[15:51:04] <Ramshankar> hey jeremy_c[15:51:18] <jeremy_c> Ramshankar: gm[15:51:42] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[15:53:39] *** NeonLicht has joined #haiku[15:55:17] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[15:57:55] *** Ramshankar is now known as Teknomancer[15:58:13] *** guildencrantz has joined #haiku[16:10:00] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[16:11:32] <CIA-17> jackburton * r20636 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/opengl/GLView.cpp:[16:11:32] <CIA-17> Implemented BGLView::DirectConnected(). I don't know if it works, since[16:11:32] <CIA-17> the gldirect_mode test app crashes at startup (also before this commit).[16:11:32] <CIA-17> Style changes.[16:11:59] *** GreyGhost has joined #haiku[16:26:27] *** netpositive_ has joined #haiku[16:30:29] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[16:41:57] *** netpositive has quit IRC[16:43:13] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[16:43:49] *** petterhj has quit IRC[16:44:01] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[16:56:46] *** kokito has joined #haiku[17:01:23] <CIA-17> axeld * r20637 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/network/telnetd/telnetd.c: Fixed build (IP_TOS is defined now).[17:01:45] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[17:10:09] *** chaotic has joined #haiku[17:11:01] <chaotic> @ sikosis: great work your "Happy Easter Edition"[17:12:23] *** jeremy_c has quit IRC[17:12:48] *** GreyGhost has quit IRC[17:12:55] *** Begasus has quit IRC[17:13:37] <miqlas> "Happy Easter Edition"? Where can i found this?[17:13:47] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:14:36] <netpositive_> haikupodcast.com[17:14:55] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[17:15:10] *** jeremy_c has joined #haiku[17:15:35] *** Proctop has quit IRC[17:16:22] <chaotic> @ miqlas: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/627[17:16:33] <miqlas> thx![17:19:51] <chaotic> @ sikosis: is it possible to increase the diskspace in haiku vmware-image ???[17:27:20] * kokito agrees with chaotic's request[17:33:03] *** Sil2100 has joined #haiku[17:34:23] <_hugo> you can build a bigger image[17:34:42] <_hugo> HAIKU_IMAGE_SIZE=200 jam -q haiku-vmware-image[17:34:58] <_hugo> for 200M[17:37:31] *** cyrus82 has joined #haiku[17:38:31] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[17:40:17] <chaotic> @ _hugo: with which tool I can do that[17:41:01] <_hugo> chaotic: you need to build the source yourself[17:41:29] *** wkornewald has joined #haiku[17:41:50] *** wkornewald has quit IRC[17:42:28] *** guma has joined #haiku[17:45:50] <chaotic> @ _hugo: sorry, i am not a programer, i have only a vmware-image with 115 MB of diskspace[17:46:35] <_hugo> chaotic: you dont have to be a program to compile haiku's source. you just need to follow instructions[17:46:36] <Begasus> install native ;)[17:46:38] <_hugo> programmer even[17:47:00] <Begasus> hi kokito ;)[17:47:14] <kokito> howdy Begasus[17:47:33] <Begasus> how's things over there?[17:47:47] <kokito> quiet Begasus :)[17:48:00] *** wkornewald has joined #haiku[17:48:41] <Begasus> ;)[17:48:59] * kokito hides...[17:51:29] *** guma has quit IRC[17:55:00] *** Pulko_Mandy has quit IRC[17:55:34] *** Pulko_Mandy has joined #haiku[18:01:06] <DeadYak> random curiosity, why does the SoC page still say no projects have been assigned?[18:01:27] <kokito> DeadYak, because they have not been assigned :)[18:01:29] <kokito> yet[18:01:40] <DeadYak> but I thought haiku-os.org said 7 students had been assigned[18:02:07] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[18:02:16] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[18:02:25] <kokito> DeadYak, that's a "preliminary" assignment[18:02:28] <DeadYak> ah[18:02:29] <wkornewald> DeadYak: that was preliminary (maybe I should have emphasized this). we'll probably even try to get 8 students, but maybe we only get 6[18:02:30] <kokito> not final[18:02:42] <Sil2100> DeadYak: I think it says 'student slots'[18:02:46] <wkornewald> hi kokito[18:02:51] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:02:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:02:52] <kokito> howdy wkornewald :)[18:02:57] <wkornewald> hi mmu_man[18:03:01] <DeadYak> ok, I misunderstood the post[18:03:02] <wkornewald> please check your mail :)[18:03:08] <kokito> wkornewald, there you have your man > mmu_man[18:03:36] <wkornewald> mmu_man: when did you apply as a mentor? I didn't see you before today[18:03:45] <mmu_man> today :)[18:05:29] <wkornewald> whew :)[18:05:44] <wkornewald> mmu_man: did you want to be a backup mentor or would you be intersted in mentoring a kernel task?[18:06:47] <mmu_man> not sure yet[18:08:22] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[18:08:52] <wkornewald> mmu_man: there is not much time to decide, though[18:10:33] <mmu_man> well, I'm not so sure yet, backup first, but if you really need someone to fill a slot[18:10:50] <wkornewald> mmu_man: we'd just like to try to get 8 slots :)[18:11:07] <mmu_man> go for it then[18:11:14] <wkornewald> maybe Axel can do that job...[18:11:36] <mmu_man> how many spare clones do we have ?[18:11:57] <wkornewald> spare clones? hmm, three, I think :)[18:14:12] * mmu_man -> Impersonate(axeld);[18:14:33] <mmu_man> there you go, 4 now :)[18:14:37] <DeadYak> haha[18:20:34] *** MauriceK has joined #haiku[18:20:39] *** procton has quit IRC[18:20:41] <CIA-17> stippi * r20638 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/AboutHaiku.cpp: added Hugo Santos to the list of developers[18:20:42] <wkornewald> mmu_man: you need to click on the "I'm willing to mentor" button. I can't just assign you[18:20:48] <_hugo> oh![18:20:59] * _hugo blushes[18:21:02] <wkornewald> _hugo: congratulations! :)[18:21:11] <_hugo> thank you. that was unexpected[18:21:40] <wkornewald> _hugo: you've done enough work to be on that list and you'll hopefully do even more ;)[18:21:51] <_hugo> wkornewald: thanks! that's the plan[18:22:22] <wkornewald> _hugo: how does the client authenticate at the mobile agent?[18:22:29] <wkornewald> :)[18:22:44] <wkornewald> via IPsec? do I need a password, then?[18:22:45] <_hugo> wkornewald: thats where the funny bits turn hard. IPSec + IKE[18:23:09] <wkornewald> IKE...never heard of that[18:23:27] <_hugo> Internet Key Exchange. it is a set of protocols to establish Security Associations[18:23:29] <_hugo> between hosts[18:23:52] <_hugo> the RFC mandates that the mobile host should be able to setup IPSec manually (so yeah, static password or certificate)[18:24:03] <_hugo> but it also defines the interaction with IKE[18:24:32] <_hugo> btw, BeShare is working here in Haiku. downloading works too[18:25:11] <wkornewald> _hugo: cool![18:25:28] <wkornewald> then, commit and close your first ticket :)[18:25:42] <_hugo> for some reason the muscle server resets connections a lot (and we still don't react completely well to that) so sometimes it doesnt fully connect at first[18:26:04] <_hugo> wkornewald: will do, just cleaning up some stuff up and doing some more tests with additional tcp apps[18:26:08] <_hugo> to be sure nothing broke[18:26:33] <wkornewald> mmu_man: if you want to mentor, could you please apply for that student, then (via the web app)?[18:26:41] <mmu_man> re[18:27:10] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:27:49] <wkornewald> _hugo: what kind of certificates are supported? anything? even CardSpace?[18:28:31] <_hugo> wkornewald: well, in static configuration the certification only provides de keying data to the actual encryption ESP makes[18:28:39] <_hugo> the certificate even[18:28:48] <wkornewald> mmu_man: btw, please don't vote for anything in the web app. the votes must stay as they are because otherwise we might lose a project which we already assigned[18:28:58] <mmu_man> wkornewald ok[18:29:01] *** karijes has left #haiku[18:29:07] <mmu_man> so I need to choose[18:29:11] * mmu_man doesn't like choices[18:29:14] <mmu_man> :D[18:29:16] <_hugo> IKE is a bit more complex. it has several phases of negotiation[18:29:27] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[18:29:37] <wkornewald> mmu_man: no choice: just pick the precache or nothing :)[18:29:49] <mmu_man> ah ok[18:29:53] <mmu_man> much better then =)[18:30:18] <_hugo> our 'seq' is broken[18:30:23] <_hugo> weird[18:30:37] <mmu_man> so mentoring is not that easy :)[18:30:42] <wkornewald> _hugo: OK, that will help me get the preflet design worked out[18:30:44] <mmu_man> fine, I need motivation[18:30:45] <wkornewald> thanks[18:30:58] <wkornewald> mmu_man: well, you don't have to do it. ;)[18:30:58] <_hugo> wkornewald: cool :-)[18:31:27] <mmu_man> but I need to :)[18:31:30] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[18:31:31] <DeadYak> IKE?[18:31:41] <wkornewald> mmu_man: no, just force Axel to clone himself another time[18:31:42] <_hugo> DeadYak: internet key exchange[18:31:43] <wkornewald> ;)[18:31:49] <DeadYak> _hugo: ah[18:32:00] <mmu_man> DRM Error: licence count = 0[18:32:50] <kokito> _hugo, BeShare working? :P[18:33:03] <mmu_man> wkornewald can I still leave a comment with Eval = N/A ?[18:33:04] <wkornewald> _hugo: that's just preparation, I won't code it[18:33:06] *** karijes has joined #haiku[18:33:23] * wkornewald fears dentists :)[18:33:40] <_hugo> kokito: yep, ill make the commit in a bit[18:33:45] <wkornewald> mmu_man: what does that mean? are the applications closed?[18:33:51] <_hugo> wkornewald: sounds good anyway[18:33:59] <wkornewald> mmu_man: yes, comments are possible[18:34:04] <kokito> _hugo, cool![18:34:08] <mmu_man> just to answer questions[18:34:18] <mmu_man> ok let's mentor first[18:34:28] <mmu_man> (ownership requested)[18:34:29] <wkornewald> mmu_man: I thought the DRM error came from GSoC :)[18:34:47] <kokito> wkornewald: deadline extended...[18:34:48] <wkornewald> mmu_man: thanks! you're assigned, now :)[18:34:52] <mmu_man> I hope they are against DRM at google :)))[18:34:58] <mmu_man> w00t :)[18:35:02] <_hugo> deadline extended? eheh. its always the same with SoC[18:35:04] <wkornewald> kokito: again? :)[18:35:09] <kokito> sorry, no, my mistake![18:35:16] <wkornewald> hehe[18:35:18] <_hugo> :-)[18:35:25] <kokito> wkornewald, deadline NOT extended.[18:35:28] <wkornewald> April 1st is over, man ;)[18:35:33] * kokito should drink some coffee[18:36:03] <_hugo> kokito: bring me some[18:36:19][18:36:23] <kokito> _hugo, like espresso? :P[18:36:29] <mmu_man> hmm still under the "might not" line though[18:36:35] <_hugo> kokito: i do :-)[18:36:40] <wkornewald> mmu_man: but it's not very likely that we actually get that slot[18:36:53] <wkornewald> mmu_man: yes, that's because we got 7 preliminary slots[18:37:11] <_hugo> *sigh* we need to fix this page caching bug :-) i keep hitting it[18:37:33] <wkornewald> _hugo: which bug?[18:37:37] <kokito> _hugo, the Luposian bug?[18:37:40] <_hugo> "page still has mappings"[18:37:40] <kokito> :P[18:37:44] *** Kernel86 has joined #Haiku[18:38:09] <wkornewald> _hugo: hmm, another hint? :)[18:38:14] <_hugo> i get it like once every 20 runs[18:38:33] <_hugo> wkornewald: thats about it. i get to KDL with "page still has mappings". related with the page cache[18:39:24] <wkornewald> can't help here :([18:39:44] <_hugo> after im done with some of this TCP stuff (and possibly some ARP stuff next), i might have a look at it[18:39:50] <_hugo> but its hard to catch[18:40:51] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[18:40:56] <wkornewald> hmm, I guess you'll never get to IPv6 :)[18:40:57] *** rcjsuen_ is now known as rcjsuen[18:41:04] <_hugo> wkornewald: i will![18:41:12] <wkornewald> hehe[18:41:27] <_hugo> wkornewald: but only further along, may possibly[18:41:52] <_hugo> i could have started it already, but i think its better to fix these issues that affect most people right now[18:42:10] <wkornewald> May 28 is the official coding start, anyway[18:42:24] <wkornewald> you have plenty of time[18:42:33] <_hugo> :-)[18:44:21] <mmu_man> I hope Haiku's file cache will be better than Linux'[18:44:38] <DeadYak> does linux's file cache suck or something?[18:44:40] <mmu_man> stupid box locks up while waiting for the disk to spin up :)[18:44:49] <mmu_man> music cutting[18:45:10] <DeadYak> ah.[18:45:19] <DeadYak> is that a file caching or a priority issue?[18:45:47] <mmu_man> hmm, now, measuring device average spin up time, that could be something useful to calculate teh buffer low watermark[18:46:12] <mmu_man> well, Haiku doesn't spin drives down yet though :D[18:46:34] <mmu_man> DeadYak no, it's really the mpeg player starving while the IDE drive locks up the bus[18:46:40] <DeadYak> ah.[18:46:56] <mmu_man> also because it's on the same bus as the boot drive[18:48:10] <mmu_man> where teh swap is[18:48:13] <mmu_man> could be it[18:48:14] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20639 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[18:48:14] <CIA-17> even more TCP fixage.[18:48:14] <CIA-17> - don't try to remove spawned sockets from Endpoints hashtable.[18:48:14] <CIA-17> - return B_WOULD_BLOCK (EAGAIN) when we time out in acquire_sem().[18:48:14] <CIA-17> - use B_RELEASE_IF_WAITING_ONLY in the TCP WaitList.[18:48:14] <CIA-17> - fixed a off by one issue in ReadData() which could result in more than needed iterations (and waiting).[18:48:19] <CIA-17> - implemented prepending new buffers to a net_buffer.[18:48:19] <mmu_man> I'll try to change it[18:51:00] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[18:51:12] <CIA-17> laplace * r20640 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/AboutHaiku.cpp: Added Hartmut Reh to list of contributors. He contributed to the printing sub-system with ideas, implementations and testing.[18:51:36] <kokito> _hugo, is this the one that fixes the BeShare crash?[18:52:26] <_hugo> kokito: should be[18:52:49] <wkornewald> _hugo: btw, it would be nice if you could always mention the ticket (#123) you fixed in the commit message[18:52:50] <_hugo> if it doesnt connect completely at first, i.e. doesnt receive list of members. just disconnect and re-connect[18:53:20] <kokito> _hugo, ok. will test later and report on http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1149[18:53:27] <_hugo> kokito: thank you[18:53:31] <_hugo> wkornewald: ok, will do that[18:53:38] <kokito> no, thank you!! :)[18:53:38] <wkornewald> thanks![18:54:39] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[18:56:41] *** JamesB192 has joined #haiku[18:57:28] <mmu_man> /dev/brain: 14446746742347654 neurons allocated that should not be. Fixing...[18:57:39] <DeadYak> hahaha.[18:58:13] *** Pulko_Mandy has quit IRC[19:00:44] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20641 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/stack/net_buffer.cpp: eat header space in each iteration in prepend_size().[19:01:20] *** _hugo2 has joined #haiku[19:03:19] <_hugo2> haiku is comfy[19:04:02] *** cyrus82 has quit IRC[19:07:37] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:10:34] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[19:10:56] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[19:11:00] *** _hugo2 has quit IRC[19:11:02] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:11:11] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[19:16:14] *** Euver has joined #haiku[19:17:45] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[19:19:38] <kokito> _hugo, comfy?[19:20:12] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[19:20:16] <_hugo> eheh, was just testing vision[19:21:10] <kokito> _hugo, vision works (or at least, it used to); the only problem that I had when I tried it, was that it would not save the setting upon exit.[19:21:32] <wkornewald> bye![19:21:36] <_hugo> kokito: yeah, was just testing whether any of the changes i did to TCP had affected it[19:21:39] <_hugo> wkornewald: see you[19:21:39] *** wkornewald has quit IRC[19:23:08] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[19:26:17] *** b3w_ has quit IRC[19:28:20] <_hugo> something is still not right though. sometimes a checksum is wrong, hm.[19:29:25] <mmu_man> so, what's this thing with the build...[19:29:40] <mmu_man> Unknown suffix on <src!add-ons!accelerants!intel_extreme>accelerants - see UserObject rule in Jamfile(5).[19:29:48] <mmu_man> looks like I4m the only one ?[19:30:10] <_hugo> i dont have that issue[19:32:29] <mmu_man> hmm[19:32:35] <mmu_man> ./configure again maybe[19:34:00] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[19:34:42] <kokito> emitrax[19:36:49] <emitrax> hi kokito[19:37:25] <kokito> emitrax, did you get the reply sent to you (about your application)?[19:38:27] <emitrax> kokito: I haven't checked my email all day. I'm doing it now.[19:41:47] <emitrax> kokito: just got an email from jorge...[19:42:21] <kokito> emitrax, that's me. :)[19:55:43] *** pikapika has joined #haiku[19:56:29] <pikapika> hello[19:56:44] <gr00ber> yo dude[19:58:36] <pikapika> :)[20:10:16] *** Leszek has joined #haiku[20:10:46] <Leszek> hi[20:27:59] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20642 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/ (protocols/tcp/TCPEndpoint.cpp stack/net_buffer.cpp): update buffer size when prepending buffers.[20:28:10] *** pikapika has quit IRC[20:28:53] *** pikapika has joined #haiku[20:30:17] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[20:32:10] *** XXXGauronXXX has joined #haiku[20:34:38] *** leszek_ has joined #haiku[20:34:44] *** leszek_ has quit IRC[20:35:02] *** Begasus_bbl has quit IRC[20:35:03] *** Begasus is now known as Begasus_bbl[20:36:59] *** Euver has quit IRC[20:37:41] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[20:37:59] *** MrRagga has joined #haiku[20:40:54] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[20:41:41] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:41:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[20:45:16] *** jpd has joined #haiku[20:47:36] *** XXXGauronXXX2 has joined #haiku[20:47:59] *** netpositive__ has joined #haiku[20:48:34] *** Leszek has quit IRC[20:52:47] *** netpositive_ has quit IRC[20:53:42] *** XXXGauronXXX has quit IRC[20:56:09] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[20:58:35] *** XXXGauronXXX2 has quit IRC[21:03:53] *** zl0minus has joined #haiku[21:04:39] <CIA-17> hugosantos * r20643 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed add_tcp_header() as it wasn't considering the possibility that prepending data would not result in a contiguous buffer. This would result in wrong checksums for apparent no reason.[21:04:49] <_hugo> uff! that took a bit to fix[21:06:57] <mmu_man> plop[21:06:58] <mmu_man> dr_evil :)[21:08:22] *** Sarcas has joined #haiku[21:09:16] *** chaotic has left #haiku[21:09:50] *** TurkBUG has joined #haiku[21:13:51] *** Stamrogh has joined #haiku[21:15:44] *** jpd has quit IRC[21:19:38] *** Begasus has quit IRC[21:20:24] *** MrRagga has quit IRC[21:22:23] *** zl0minus has quit IRC[21:24:22] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[21:26:17] <kokito> _hugo, testing BeShare on 20641, and it does not crash anymore. :)[21:27:00] <kokito> _hugo, however, while beshare seems to connect, I don't see any users or files.[21:27:31] *** kr1stof_ has joined #haiku[21:27:37] <_hugo> kokito: please try 20643[21:27:53] <_hugo> there was a nasty checksum error still around which i fixed in 20643[21:28:08] <kokito> _hugo, okidoki :)[21:28:11] *** wildur has quit IRC[21:29:46] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[21:32:32] <_hugo> damn lasagna, looked bigger.[21:33:29] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[21:35:02] * mmu_man searches for Weird Al Yankovic's Lasagna mp3[21:36:04] <mmu_man> ah it's in the "Even Worse" album :)[21:42:20] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[21:42:51] * dr_evil should really start a diet[21:43:11] *** Sarcas has quit IRC[21:44:14] * MikeW munches on a bowl of cornflakes[21:44:35] <MikeW> mmmm[21:45:19] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[21:53:18] *** Korli has joined #haiku[21:53:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[21:54:28] <mmu_man> plop Korli :)[21:54:38] <Korli> hey mmu_man[21:57:04] *** wildur has quit IRC[21:57:07] <Korli> mmu_man I dunno why we didn't include you before today, sorry :)[22:00:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[22:00:30] <mmu_man> probably because I only registered today :)[22:00:34] <SiCuTDeUx> hi guys![22:00:38] <mmu_man> wasn't here this week end[22:00:39] <SiCuTDeUx> anyone using beosmax?[22:01:03] <SiCuTDeUx> i need to know is it has cardbus support[22:01:14] <mmu_man> don't think so[22:01:24] <Korli> mmu_man were you at Arles' feria ?[22:01:26] <SiCuTDeUx> oh...[22:01:36] <mmu_man> IIRC Ithamar worked on cardbus in Zeta once[22:01:40] <mmu_man> Korli no[22:02:00] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[22:02:20] <SiCuTDeUx> Zeta is pirate software now! :P[22:02:40] <mmu_man> SiCuTDeUx if you say so[22:02:45] * mmu_man waits and see[22:02:59] <SiCuTDeUx> if Access says so! not me! :P[22:03:05] <SiCuTDeUx> i only wish that code was mine[22:03:14] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[22:03:30] *** genkie has joined #haiku[22:03:32] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[22:03:48] <mmu_man> http://www.shengzhiqidao.org Korli :)[22:04:53] <Korli> Camargue then :)[22:05:09] <mmu_man> yep[22:07:55] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[22:09:33] *** TTRanger has quit IRC[22:10:19] *** TTRanger has joined #Haiku[22:11:39] *** stargater has joined #haiku[22:13:49] *** Jin has joined #Haiku[22:14:29] *** netpositive__ has quit IRC[22:14:44] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[22:16:26] <Jin> hmm[22:16:37] <Jin> what program can I use to extract this disk into an .iso image?[22:17:37] <mmu_man> under linux mount -o loop[22:17:48] *** emitrax has quit IRC[22:17:48] *** procton has joined #haiku[22:18:07] <mmu_man> under BeOS, mkdir /iso; sync; mount -t iso9660 /full/path/to/image.iso /iso[22:18:17] *** arikato has quit IRC[22:18:27] <mmu_man> under win... Start->Shutdown->Reboot :)[22:18:55] <PulkoMandy> daemon tools...[22:19:08] *** arikato has joined #haiku[22:19:27] <PulkoMandy> but then you will be unable to launch any game because it's detected as "pirate software"[22:20:12] *** ekdahl has joined #haiku[22:20:50] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:21:11] <stargater> hi[22:21:51] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[22:23:38] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:25:49] <Jin> for beos, yes[22:27:15] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[22:28:38] *** PORDO has joined #haiku[22:31:24] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[22:38:04] *** ekdahl has left #haiku[22:40:00] *** Hoern has joined #Haiku[22:42:03] <Jin> what mmu_man said didn't work, I just want to basically rip this CD into an ISO image, anyone else?[22:44:52] *** sarcas has quit IRC[22:45:57] *** Leszek has joined #haiku[22:46:23] <Leszek> re[22:46:51] <Korli> Jin you could use dd[22:47:08] <Jin> I've never used dd before, how and what is it exactly?[22:47:33] <Korli> Jin it copies the disk as is[22:49:32] <Korli> try : dd if=/path/to/your/cd of=/boot/home/image.iso[22:50:51] <kokito> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner"[22:51:08] <kokito> Korli!![22:51:13] <Korli> hey kokito[22:52:03] <Korli> kokito this sentence is not that representative of our society :)[22:52:19] <Jin> says the path to the CD is a directory?[22:52:52] <kokito> Korli, you would have to define what "our society" means first. :P[22:53:08] <Leszek> Jin: you have to type in the source path to your cd device[22:53:22] <Jin> OH[22:53:23] <Jin> um[22:53:24] <Jin> um[22:53:30] * Jin doesn't know what it is :/[22:54:11] <Leszek> the path is /dev/hdd on linux on haiku i think /dev/disk/ide/1/1/0[22:54:35] <Leszek> but you have to edit it to your hardware specific[22:55:05] <Leszek> that means hda is for example hardidks 1 partition 1[22:55:31] <Leszek> sry hardidsk 1 master ;)=[22:56:08] *** StylusEater_Work has left #haiku[22:56:12] <Leszek> Jin: do you understand ?[22:56:20] <Jin> I think so....[22:56:26] *** SamuelGZ has joined #haiku[22:56:29] <Leszek> cool ;)[22:59:04] <Jin> /dev/disk/ide/ata/0/master/0_0, 0_1, and 0_3[23:00:50] <Leszek> ah :)[23:01:32] <Jin> got it[23:01:37] <Jin> those were my hard drive partitions[23:01:47] <Leszek> yeah[23:02:15] <Jin> what I Was looking for was /dev/disk/ide/atapi/1/slave/0/0_0[23:02:37] <Leszek> :)[23:02:42] *** gr00ber has joined #haiku[23:03:06] <genkie> ich hab auch mit stippi gechattet[23:03:08] <Jin> why are the device strings so confusing, anyway :/[23:03:21][23:03:31] <genkie> sorry wrong channel[23:03:32] *** BuildFactory has quit IRC[23:03:39] <Leszek> lol[23:04:04] <Leszek> Jin: it should be easier than in linux i think[23:04:29] <Leszek> but is somehow complicated if you never got in touch with it[23:05:17] <Korli> Jin I think you should use the raw device instead of 0_0[23:05:18] <Jin> I'm used to linux device strings[23:05:29] <Jin> what's the difference?[23:05:44] <Jin> what's with the different 0_1 and 1_0 and such anyway?[23:05:49] <Jin> are those the tracks on the disk?[23:05:54] <Korli> yes[23:06:07] <Jin> aah that makes sense then[23:06:08] <Korli> raw is the device with all tracks[23:06:33] <Leszek> :)[23:06:37] <Jin> since it IS the max CD I'm copying (lost the images in a crash I talked about last weekend)[23:08:25] <Jin> hmm wth[23:08:33] <Jin> I thought max came with gcc 2.95.3...[23:10:07] * Jin downloads[23:10:14] *** BuildFactory has joined #haiku[23:11:05] *** genkie has quit IRC[23:11:45] *** jevin has joined #haiku[23:12:14] <CIA-17> axeld * r20644 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/raw/ (RAW.cpp RAW.h RAWTranslator.cpp RAWTranslator.h): Implemented a progress monitor - I'll implement support for this in ShowImage next.[23:16:43] <Korli> bye[23:17:36] *** Korli has quit IRC[23:18:23] *** oco has quit IRC[23:20:10] <Leszek> gn8@all[23:20:15] *** Leszek has quit IRC[23:21:37] <CIA-17> axeld * r20645 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/network/libnetapi/NetEndpoint.cpp: Fixed several issues pointed out by Olivier "Methe" Milla.[23:23:25] <Ingenu> night[23:23:31] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:25:09] <kokito> _hugo, are you actually able to connect to the servers with BeShare, chat and download files?[23:38:00] *** JamesB192 has joined #haiku[23:38:25] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[23:39:04] <PulkoMandy> +++[23:39:12] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:39:13] *** MikeW has quit IRC[23:41:44] *** meianoite has joined #haiku[23:44:03] *** meianoite is now known as meianoite|TV[23:45:40] *** TurkBUG has quit IRC[23:50:43] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[23:51:20] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[23:53:54] <CIA-17> korli * r20646 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/ac97/auich/ (ac97.c auich.c multi.c): (log message trimmed)[23:53:54] <CIA-17> Applied patch from thq (bug #1146). Thanks a lot! I tested this change on Haiku.[23:53:54] <CIA-17> Avoids noise on shutdown because the amplifier is left on after shutdown, the amplifier is also turned on directly after init. The patch changes this to be the last thing to be turned on, and the first to be turned off.[23:53:55] <CIA-17> The creation of controls had an of by 1 error where the last control was skipped.[23:53:56] <CIA-17> Also made the controls more UI friendly so that the 'boost mic +20dB' is a part[23:53:58] <CIA-17> of the mic control instead of its own tab, and the AC97 mixer tab is changed to[23:54:00] <CIA-17> be the first one as it is probably more used than the 'Record' tab, which now is[23:57:13] *** kr1stof_ has left #haiku