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[06:45:20] <umccullough> runs well on my Radeon 9250 AGP
[06:45:31] <umccullough> steven_h, you should try it :)
[06:45:50] <umccullough> a screenshot of sysinfo output would be good
[06:45:54] <steven_h> mission accepted.
[06:46:08] <umccullough> Haiku runs on a Via C3 pretty decent
[06:46:46] <steven_h> What flavour? I'll try BeOS MAX v3.1 and then R5 Personal/Pro?
[06:47:05] <tigerdog> I wonder if it would run on this: http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS5406613325.html
[06:47:05] <umccullough> hm...not sure how well beos supports non-intel x86 :P
[06:47:05] <tigerdog> using this CPU:http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863_9864,00.html
[06:47:05] <tigerdog> If I read this correctly the Geode is x86 compatible.
[06:47:40] <umccullough> IIRC, it's not completely x86 compatible
[06:47:44] <steven_h> just... ugly.
[06:48:46] <tigerdog> well, there is that...
[06:48:59] <geist> haha, luposian is chiming in on the 'why vista uses up all your ram' topic on osnews
[06:49:02] <geist> completely clueless
[06:49:13] <umccullough> really?
[06:49:15] * umccullough goes to read
[06:49:26] <umccullough> because it's copying files?
[06:50:09] <steven_h> back later...
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[06:50:26] <umccullough> geist, you should add a tweak that causes Haiku to use up all available RAM
[06:50:31] <geist> done!
[06:50:34] <umccullough> lol
[06:50:42] <geist> like, you can't use the ram for anything else
[06:50:55] <geist> therefore it uses it all up
[06:51:27] <umccullough> of course, if you have some bad ram, you'd find out a lot quicker that way ;)
[06:51:30] <geist> anyway, on page three someone named 'butters' basically sums it up (first couple of paragraphs at least)
[06:51:47] <geist> umccullough: heh. though actually on newos (and thus haiuku) there's a thread that slowly zeros out ram
[06:51:51] <geist> so it'll find it eventually
[06:51:51] <umccullough> page 3? - i have mine set to show 30 comments per page :D
[06:52:05] <umccullough> awesome
[06:52:06] <geist> luposian is comment 31
[06:57:51] <umccullough> wow, butters has an amazingly good osnews score considering how many comments he's posted
[06:58:27] <geist> he seems to have  clue
[06:58:34] <umccullough> mine's only 2.38 ;)
[06:58:53] <geist> i think i may have posted a handful of times
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[07:05:40] <umccullough> http://www.osnews.com/user.php?uid=1512
[07:05:50] <umccullough> ;)
[07:06:10] <umccullough> osnews doesn't make it easy to search for users
[07:06:31] <geist> looking at all of luposian's crazy rants would be a fun evening
[07:06:38] <umccullough> lol
[07:07:00] <umccullough> hell, grab 'em all, and run them through one of those BS-generators
[07:07:10] <umccullough> i bet what you get out looks a lot like what went in
[07:11:29] <geist> hrm. some of the new vm stuff broke the build.
[07:11:30] <geist> oh I see. new vm stuff + DEBUG
[07:11:57] <umccullough> you got the cc on that bug i filed right?
[07:12:16] <geist> yeah, no idea what that is
[07:12:22] <umccullough> :(
[07:12:41] <umccullough> phoudoin said that set_signals() is the first place in the radeon.accelerant where area_mapping is used
[07:13:28] <umccullough> [14:00] <phoudoin> I'll bet it's related to area mapping, as set_signals is the first function to actually access it when the radeon.accelerant is inited
[07:13:39] <geist> oh crap. I see a big issue
[07:13:51] <geist> wtf, everyone stopped using vm_map_physical_memory
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[07:14:22] <umccullough> everyone being axel?
[07:14:45] <geist> oh, phew. they wrapped it with map_physical_memory
[07:14:54] <geist> so it was just the smp code that was busticated
[07:15:08] <umccullough> :)
[07:15:11] <geist> it was using 'create_area' to map in the local apics, instead of map_physical_memory
[07:15:30] <geist> there's no way anyone tested with smp on in the last checkin. it blows up immediately
[07:15:52] <umccullough> i think axel devs on his single-proc laptop a lot ;)
[07:16:24] <SiCuTDeUx> who is bonefish?
[07:16:27] <SiCuTDeUx> axel?
[07:16:38] <umccullough> bonefish == ingo
[07:17:09] <SiCuTDeUx> ok
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[07:17:23] <umccullough> he's been committing userlandfs stuff like crazy
[07:17:38] <SiCuTDeUx> yeah..
[07:17:54] <SiCuTDeUx> he is another one that doesn't sleep
[07:18:14] <SiCuTDeUx> that's three counting us umccullough
[07:18:15] <umccullough> actually, he goes through spurts
[07:18:32] <SiCuTDeUx> jue mar  1 02:18:30 VET 2007
[07:18:38] <umccullough> yeah, speaking of which...
[07:18:41] <SiCuTDeUx> i just have a warm wath...
[07:18:48] <SiCuTDeUx> *bath
[07:18:51] <umccullough> lol
[07:19:11] <SiCuTDeUx> so, i'm going to be up for the next 3 hours at least
[07:22:37] <umccullough> so, since Zeta is shipped with an updated port of Abiword, we should see those changes committed to the Abiword trunk i hope...
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[07:23:26] <steven_h> ...crap... no blank CDs
[07:23:27] <SiCuTDeUx> long time without seeing abiword svn
[07:24:30] <SiCuTDeUx> i consider abiwords code a little bit messy
[07:24:48] <umccullough> i had thought they cleaned a bunch of it up in the 2.x branch
[07:25:04] <SiCuTDeUx> just like the code of wordpress (actually wordpress combination of PHP + JavaScript and HTML is hell)
[07:25:28] <SiCuTDeUx> it's a disaster really
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[07:26:20] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough: i got a new pc today...
[07:26:35] <SiCuTDeUx> well it's not new... it's and old new pc...
[07:26:44] <umccullough> i like old machines :)
[07:26:45] <Begasus> g'morning peeps
[07:27:00] <umccullough> hi Begasus
[07:27:03] <SiCuTDeUx> PIII, 667 mhz and 128 mb ram, with an 80 gigs HD :P
[07:27:09] <umccullough> Begasus, do you know the status of the zeta Abiword port?
[07:27:18] <SiCuTDeUx> a gift from a friend...
[07:27:23] <umccullough> SiCuTDeUx, sounds like a reasonable beos/haiku machine :D
[07:27:27] <SiCuTDeUx> yeah :D
[07:27:32] <umccullough> except, needs more ram
[07:27:39] <Begasus> I know they still are working on it ... don't know how far they are atm though
[07:27:40] <umccullough> at least 256 to build haiku from within r5
[07:27:50] <umccullough> Begasus, ah - wasn't sure if it was released yet
[07:27:51] <SiCuTDeUx> i was planning to uset as svn + web server
[07:28:02] <Begasus> not yet no umccullough
[07:28:06] <SiCuTDeUx> *use it
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[07:29:40] <SiCuTDeUx> i like to see that port
[07:30:04] <Begasus> umccullough do you have network running in Haiku?
[07:30:05] <umccullough> same here - hoping that it could be adapted to beos/haiku easily
[07:30:07] <SiCuTDeUx> long time without programming on c++ or BeOS api
[07:30:10] <umccullough> Begasus, sure!
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[07:30:18] <CIA-22> geist * r20265 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch/x86/arch_smp.c:
[07:30:18] <CIA-22> the recent vm change uncovered a long standing latent pseudo-bug where the local
[07:30:18] <CIA-22> and ioapic memory window were mapped into kernel space via create_area(), not
[07:30:18] <CIA-22> map_physical_memory() like it should be. create_area() used to work fine, but
[07:30:18] <CIA-22> now it's a big more picky about mapping memory it can't get a vm_page to (like
[07:30:19] <CIA-22> stuff outside the range of RAM).
[07:30:24] <umccullough> Begasus, for me, rtl8139 works
[07:30:36] <Begasus> strange ... downloaded the latest build yesterday and cp'd it over to the other volume
[07:30:45] <Begasus> yes also rtl8139 here
[07:30:47] <umccullough> Begasus, did you configure it?
[07:31:00] <Begasus> with ifconfig and route add yes
[07:31:09] <umccullough> and create resolv.conf?
[07:31:16] <umccullough> can you ping your router?
[07:31:20] <Begasus> ah not sure about that ...
[07:31:28] <Begasus> nope couldn't ping the router
[07:31:31] <umccullough> hrm
[07:31:40] <umccullough> that's ... bad
[07:31:53] <Begasus> but I think I still have the resolv file from a previous attempt
[07:32:05] <umccullough> resolv.conf only helps with DNS
[07:32:05] <Begasus> so I know it worked ...
[07:32:19] <umccullough> if you have DHCP, you probably don't have to ifconfig
[07:32:35] <umccullough> but you probably will have to make sure resolv.conf is there, and add a route
[07:32:42] <Begasus> it works through dhcp already?
[07:32:43] <umccullough> at least, I do
[07:32:56] <umccullough> Begasus, yes - net_server does a DHCP lookup and gets an IP
[07:33:05] <umccullough> without doing anything else, run ifconfig and see if it got an IP
[07:33:21] <Begasus> will have to take a look later
[07:33:29] <Begasus> wanted to try Firefox and Vision ;)
[07:33:33] <umccullough> then run route and make sure it has a route to use your router
[07:33:41] <umccullough> Firefox will crash (or not start at all)
[07:33:44] <umccullough> Vision should work :D
[07:33:51] <umccullough> Net+ works I think
[07:33:53] <Begasus> I got it up yesterday ...
[07:34:00] <Begasus> Firefox that is ...
[07:34:04] <umccullough> really.... which version?
[07:34:09] <Begasus> latest
[07:34:12] <umccullough> BONE?
[07:34:13] <umccullough> R5?
[07:34:18] <Begasus> R5
[07:34:22] <umccullough> hrmph
[07:34:25] <umccullough> crashes for me :(
[07:34:45] <Begasus> do you have the settings folder also?
[07:34:50] <umccullough> well.... no
[07:35:01] <umccullough> i created it with a profiles.ini - but no actual profile there
[07:35:03] <Begasus> I cp'd the one from my ZETA install over first ;)
[07:35:13] <umccullough> i was wondering if that was part of my problem actualy
[07:35:24] <umccullough> damn, tigerdog left
[07:35:30] <Begasus> iirc the problem with Vision was the same
[07:35:41] <geist> well, crud. the core 2 is locking up again
[07:35:44] <umccullough> Vision allows you to configure everything actually
[07:35:45] <geist> i thought i had this solved
[07:35:46] <umccullough> just won't save
[07:36:08] <umccullough> geist, you suck (j/k)
[07:36:10] <Begasus> using the settings from within ZETA also ... so that should work
[07:36:24] <Begasus> back to square one geist ;)
[07:36:25] <umccullough> Begasus, i don't think it successfully reads them from disk
[07:36:46] <geist> boy I wish i had an nmi card at this point
[07:36:49] <umccullough> almost like the BMessage::Unflatten() is busted
[07:36:49] <Begasus> as far as I can see it uses the settings umccullough
[07:36:50] <geist> the machien just locks up
[07:37:14] <geist> and since it's timing related, dumping to the serial port changes things
[07:37:15] <umccullough> geist, aren't those super-expensive?
[07:37:29] <geist> not with ISA. you could stuff a screwdriver in the slot
[07:39:49] <umccullough> Begasus, i'll try that with my R5 Visions settings sometime :)
[07:40:06] <umccullough> maybe it reads the Zeta BMessage properly only
[07:40:23] <umccullough> i think they flatten differently IIRC
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[07:49:38] <eNGIMa> afternoon all
[07:49:47] <umccullough> lol, almost 11PM here
[07:49:52] <umccullough> hi eNGIMa
[07:50:03] <eNGIMa> only just got home from work
[07:52:46] <eNGIMa> hmm, i think i _finally_ have this webserver/site up now ...
[07:54:19] <Begasus> re
[07:55:30] <umccullough> ugh, i never finished recovering my server HD :(
[07:55:37] <umccullough> guess i'll do that this weekend
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[07:55:55] <geist> oooh, getting pretty close to narrowing this one down
[07:56:11] <SiCuTDeUx> eNGIMa: showme
[07:56:33] <eNGIMa> SiCuTDeUx, using IE6?
[07:56:39] <umccullough> D:
[07:56:46] <umccullough> nobody uses IE6 ;)
[07:56:48] <SiCuTDeUx> eNGIMa: noup...
[07:57:01] <eNGIMa> umccullough, that's what i'm hoping, 'cos i dont have access to it to test ;)
[07:57:22] <umccullough> eNGIMa, i have it one one of my machines if you want me to check
[07:57:40] <umccullough> *on
[07:57:57] <eNGIMa> umccullough, i'm using position:fixed, so i'm pretty sure it's gonna look shocking on it
[07:58:04] <umccullough> eNGIMa, you know there is a standalone ie6 installer right?
[07:58:36] <umccullough> http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
[07:59:13] * eNGIMa considers stealing his wife's laptop for testing ...
[08:00:36] <Begasus> jikes .. ;)
[08:06:44] <SiCuTDeUx> time to crash in bed
[08:06:59] <SiCuTDeUx> night!
[08:11:32] <geist> hmm, okay. so I'm starting to kind of figure this out
[08:11:43] <geist> looks like there's some problem delivering inter cpu interrupts on these cores
[08:11:52] <geist> might be something different about the local apic
[08:12:42] <geist> it's been years since i looked at that
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[08:14:31] <Begasus> plop
[08:16:18] <mmu_man> plop
[08:20:09] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20266 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (PrefDlg.cpp PrefDlg.h):
[08:20:09] <CIA-22> Patch by Vasilis Kaoutsis:
[08:20:09] <CIA-22> * Style issues.
[08:20:09] <CIA-22> * Renamed CenteredRect to _CenteredRect
[08:20:09] <CIA-22> since is private and removed the static keyword.
[08:20:10] <CIA-22> * Corrected copyright dates.
[08:20:11] <CIA-22> Thank you!
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[08:35:18] <[Katisu]> geist, could it be related to how they implement hyperthreading?
[08:35:56] <[Katisu]> seem to remember Axel mentioning something in his blog about inter cpu interrupts
[08:36:10] <[Katisu]> when trying to support hyperthreading
[08:37:59] <geist> yeah, but these aren't hyperthreaded
[08:38:16] <geist> but anyway, I think i found the bug. i just added it
[08:40:56] <[Katisu]> yeah, but they might have changed the architecture because of it
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[08:42:04] <[Katisu]> but I'll digress since I'm no expert
[08:45:56] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20267 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/interface/picture/PictureTest.cpp:
[08:45:59] <CIA-22> Flatten and Unflatten the BPicture before showing it. The picture
[08:46:01] <CIA-22> doesn't show up, that means something is still broken in Flatten() or
[08:46:04] <CIA-22> Unflatten()
[08:48:36] <mmu_man> seems svn can import from other depots automagically... wonder if it must be from the same server or an arbitrary one
[08:48:40] <mmu_man> (thinking about ffmpeg)
[08:49:45] <CIA-22> geist * r20268 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch/x86/arch_smp.c: the last smp change wasn't quite it. This time, make sure it maps the right physical page.
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[08:55:06] <mmu_man> suppose that'd answer it
[08:55:07] <mmu_man> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch07s03.html
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[08:59:24] <mmu_man> bbl
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[09:09:30] <CIA-22> geist * r20269 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[09:09:30] <CIA-22> this seems to solve the 'lock up on bootup on core 2' problem.
[09:09:30] <CIA-22> Basically, there was a pretty subtle race between the cpus in main where if the
[09:09:30] <CIA-22> main cpu released the AP cpus and then before the AP cpus had a chance to run
[09:09:30] <CIA-22> the boot cpu started creating the main thread (which causes smp ici messages to
[09:09:31] <CIA-22> be created) the system would livelock, where the boot cpu waited forever for the
[09:09:32] <CIA-22> AP cpu to acknowledge the ICI (for a TLB flush when creating the kernel stack).
[09:10:21] <geist> and now i sleep
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[09:13:23] <Begasus> re
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[09:29:39] <JBurton> hi all
[09:31:02] <JBurton> hi all
[09:31:05] <JBurton> lol
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[09:47:07] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20270 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/interface/picture/PictureTest.cpp:
[09:47:07] <CIA-22> Unflattening the picture was obviously failing because we didn't rewind
[09:47:07] <CIA-22> the stream after Flattening. Now Unflattening works, but the picture
[09:47:07] <CIA-22> seems to be empty
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[10:00:53] <CIA-22> axeld * r20271 /haiku/trunk/ (32 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[10:00:53] <CIA-22> First of a set of patches by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:00:53] <CIA-22>  * Headers updated
[10:00:53] <CIA-22>  * PLL errata workarounds
[10:00:53] <CIA-22>  * Radeon asic type overhaul (consolidated)
[10:00:54] <CIA-22>  * Device IDs Updated.
[10:00:56] <CIA-22>  * support for X-series devices with legacy bios type
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[10:05:14] <CIA-22> axeld * r20272 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[10:05:14] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:05:14] <CIA-22> * New "ATOM" BIOS Support for radeons X-series
[10:05:14] <CIA-22> * This also removes scanning for the BIOS signature for other cards
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[10:06:55] <stargater> moin
[10:07:02] <steven_h> ...bleh... BeOS Max doesn't like SATA or >128gb ?
[10:07:30] <steven_h> ...but it is booting on my Transmeta Crusoe in full colour... just wrong resolution
[10:07:35] <stargater> beos doesn't like SATA
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[10:13:22] <Ingenu> neither big disks
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[10:14:30] * steven_h realises the power-button on his keyboard works
[10:14:45] <stargater> hehe
[10:14:52] <steven_h> Ok, If I need to add a certain mode for the ATI driver....
[10:14:56] <steven_h> namely 1280x600...
[10:15:08] <steven_h> is the source in the Haiku tree?
[10:15:19] <steven_h> and can I then use that on Haiku AND BeOS Max?
[10:15:20] <Ingenu> I wouldn't think so
[10:15:22] <stargater> steven_h, fom ATI driver ?
[10:15:25] <Ingenu> would
[10:15:27] <Ingenu> tss
[10:15:38] <stargater> tss yes
[10:15:57] <steven_h> tss?
[10:17:35] <Ingenu> it's a sound you make with your mouth, when blowing air through your teeth
[10:17:47] <Ingenu> meaning that something went wrong or you made a mistake
[10:17:48] <steven_h> I expected as much...
[10:18:07] <steven_h> but you may have been referring to something related to an ati driver...
[10:18:14] <steven_h> ok, so there's one in there.. /me starts searching
[10:18:27] <Ingenu> yeah I meant that it's in Haiku tree but said the opposite
[10:18:44] <steven_h> argh.. and my planex ether pcmcia card.
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[10:23:57] <jiuda2> hi JBurton
[10:23:59] <jiuda2> hi all
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[10:26:12] <raph_ael> hello
[10:28:29] <CIA-22> axeld * r20273 /haiku/trunk/ (17 files in 3 dirs):
[10:28:29] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:28:29] <CIA-22> * option for PIO engine instead of DMA (for dodgy X700s)
[10:28:29] <CIA-22> * misc RAM config changes inline with x.org codebase
[10:33:09] <CIA-22> axeld * r20274 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[10:33:09] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:33:09] <CIA-22> * Kernel settings configuration added
[10:35:26] <CIA-22> axeld * r20275 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[10:35:26] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:35:26] <CIA-22> Monitor Routing rework
[10:35:26] <CIA-22>  * mostly to fix my issues with dual monitors VGA + DVI which didn't work! ;)
[10:38:14] <CIA-22> axeld * r20276 /haiku/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
[10:38:14] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:38:14] <CIA-22> * Laptop LCD Backlight rework + powermanagement
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[10:40:11] <skoe> G'Day
[10:41:39] <CIA-22> axeld * r20277 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[10:41:39] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:41:39] <CIA-22> Sync overlay with x.org
[10:43:35] <CIA-22> axeld * r20278 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[10:43:35] <CIA-22> Patch by Euan Kirkhope:
[10:43:35] <CIA-22> * VIP FIFO functions for Rage Theater200 support
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[10:55:10] <steven_h> Guys, how do I tell wha gfx driver is in use?
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[10:58:52] <rams_ch> hi :)
[11:00:48] <eNGIMa> evening rams_ch
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[11:03:16] <skoe> steven_h: Try 'ls /dev/graphics'
[11:03:22] <skoe> I'm not sure of the right way :-/
[11:03:40] <skoe> And hi @ rams_ch, eNGIMa, stargater
[11:03:56] * eNGIMa tips hat to skoe
[11:04:06] * skoe isn't wearing a hat :(
[11:04:39] <eNGIMa> hmm, neither am i ... we have a conundrum.
[11:06:12] <steven_h> 'mobility'... interesting... i wish i had the source down to grep
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[11:06:21] <steven_h> also, i need to add a dev/ven id to the ne2k driver..
[11:06:28] <stargater> skoe,  hi
[11:07:08] <skoe> You can do that with the R5 ne2k driver via a settings file
[11:08:19] <rams_ch> heyho :)
[11:09:04] <skoe> @steven_h i'll Private Message you.
[11:10:51] <skoe> Hmmm, i found another problem in Haiku's coding guidelines :-/
[11:13:15] <steven_h> argh... i dunno how to use PM in BitchX :/
[11:13:39] <skoe> Ok, well do you use ne2k + PCMCIA?
[11:13:52] <skoe> And is the R5 or Haiku Version?
[11:14:46] <rams_ch> with /msg :)
[11:15:34] <rams_ch> empty coffee.. AGAIN!
[11:15:57] <steven_h> BeOS MAX v3.1 fresh install
[11:16:18] <steven_h> Planex tnw-3602 ... supposedly ne2k
[11:16:31] <skoe> Then copy /boot/home/config/settings/kernel/drivers/pcmcia.default to pcmcia
[11:16:39] <rams_ch> hey is there any way do get my ati x700 working under beos?
[11:17:09] <rams_ch> if yes, i could finally install beos again
[11:19:03] <steven_h> aight.. i need to find the strings... it doesn't seem to be in listdev
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[11:25:58] <steven_h> is there a pcmcia log anywhere?
[11:26:17] <skoe> Not that i know of.
[11:26:50] <steven_h> it can see the internal wifi in devices, but no the pcmciacard
[11:27:22] <skoe> You need to prod around in here until you find someone that really knows :-/
[11:28:58] <skoe> Sorry but i have to go...Bed time you know :)
[11:29:22] <skoe> I'll either be back in 2 hours (After finding i cannot sleep), or 9 hours (Finding i can sleep)...
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[11:33:24] <steven_h> ...intersting... i have to press the power button on the laptop to get the keyboard/mouse to work
[11:34:03] <Ingenu> weirdo
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[11:36:53] <JBurton> acpi issues?
[11:46:31] <steven_h> blaaaah... device_watcher doesn't even flinch when i add/remove pcmcia card
[11:47:06] <steven_h> ...nor usb key
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[11:55:59] <stargater> cu
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[12:02:22] <steven_h> will continue this tomorrow...
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[14:09:44] <CIA-22> axeld * r20279 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm.cpp:
[14:09:44] <CIA-22> * The KDL commands cache/cache_ref will now also print the type of the cache.
[14:09:44] <CIA-22> * Made the output look a bit more like that of the other commands.
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[14:19:15] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20280 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/interface/picture/PictureTest.cpp:
[14:19:15] <CIA-22> Archive the 2 pictures to a message, in order to compare the data.
[14:19:15] <CIA-22> Currently Archiving the Unflattened picture doesn't work, and it hangs
[14:19:15] <CIA-22> inside assert_local_copy(), waiting for the app_server reply...
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[14:45:05] <CIA-22> axeld * r20281 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[14:45:05] <CIA-22> * vm_map_physical_memory() now sets the wiring/locking type of the area created
[14:45:05] <CIA-22>  to B_FULL_LOCK.
[14:45:05] <CIA-22> * vm_clone_area() now respects the source area's wiring and inherits it. This
[14:45:05] <CIA-22>  should fix bug #1055.
[14:45:06] <CIA-22> * vm_cache::type is now duplicated in vm_area::cache_type - this allows looking
[14:45:07] <CIA-22>  it up without having to lock a vm_cache_ref; this also solves a locking bug
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[14:53:00] <CIA-22> axeld * r20282 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm.cpp: Of course, we need to query the address space of the source area, not the one of the target.
[14:58:37] <CIA-22> axeld * r20283 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm.cpp: And of course, we shouldn't test newArea->cache_type before it was set...
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[15:39:15] <CIA-22> axeld * r20284 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm.cpp:
[15:39:15] <CIA-22> Implemented printing the stack trace in vm_page_fault() for PPC as well.
[15:39:15] <CIA-22> Not tested, though.
[15:47:15] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20285 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (ServerApp.cpp ServerPicture.cpp ServerPicture.h):
[15:47:15] <CIA-22> When creating a picture with data, the app_server was writing beyond the
[15:47:15] <CIA-22> allocated memory, without telling anyone. That was causing bad things to
[15:47:15] <CIA-22> happen. Flattening and unflattening BPictures now works, and
[15:47:15] <CIA-22> consequently, printing works too. Bug #1014 is fixed.
[15:54:00] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20286 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/interface/picture/PictureTest.cpp: Archiving the picture now works
[15:57:41] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20287 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Picture.cpp: Moved some functions around, some minor cleanups...
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[16:15:57] <TTRanger> Where have all the Portugese-speakers gone?  No Daat, no BGA lately!
[16:25:35] <mmu_man> no say
[16:25:47] <mmu_man> bga: [16:29] -NickServ-           Last Seen: 4 days (15h 38m 22s) ago
[16:25:58] <mmu_man> daat: [16:29] -NickServ-           Last Seen: 3 days (15h 3m 27s) ago
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[16:29:09] <TTRanger> mmu_man That's a good trick...how did you do that??
[16:29:22] <mmu_man>  /nickserv info bga
[16:29:28] <TTRanger> ahhh cool
[16:29:29] <mmu_man> or  /msg nickserv info bga
[16:29:36] <mmu_man> for registered nicks
[16:46:00] <CIA-22> jackburton * r20288 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Picture.cpp:
[16:46:00] <CIA-22> Removed commented code which implemented reading and writing of old
[16:46:00] <CIA-22> style BPicture data. If we need to support it, we can always resurrect
[16:46:00] <CIA-22> the code from the svn history.
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[18:18:50] <fleximus> Hello Haiku!
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[18:29:57] <mmu_man> plop
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[18:39:24] <miqlas> Hello!
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[19:05:49] <Leszek> hi
[19:06:58] <korli> ola
[19:07:05] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough, hi!
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[19:12:07] <CIA-22> korli * r20289 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Picture.cpp: fix gcc4 build
[19:17:25] <SiCuTDeUx> kokito kokito kokito
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[19:18:07] <kokito> SiCuTDeUx SiCuTDeUx SiCuTDeUx
[19:18:12] <SiCuTDeUx> :D
[19:18:25] <kokito> there is echo on the line
[19:18:45] <SiCuTDeUx> jejeje
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[19:21:59] <kokito> hello dr_evil
[19:22:04] <dr_evil> hi kokito
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[19:22:56] <mmu_man> plop plop plop
[19:23:17] <mmu_man> ok I started that info window let's at least get something showing
[19:23:42] <korli> hi kokito dr_evil mmu_man
[19:24:03] <kokito> hey korli
[19:24:17] <kokito> greetings from John Wayne airport ;-)
[19:24:46] <stargater> re
[19:26:01] <kokito> running low on battery...
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[19:29:42] <pikapika> hello
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[19:36:20] <Wildman> 
[19:38:03] <CIA-22> marcusoverhagen * r20290 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): removed unnecessary use of const_cast<> and (global) do_playback() function
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[19:41:16] <dr_evil> mmu_man will a delete [] (new BPoint[count]) call the default constructor/destructor count times?
[19:41:48] <mmu_man> you tell me :)
[19:42:06] <dr_evil> I think it will
[19:42:25] <dr_evil> doing a testcase...
[19:42:26] <mmu_man> wonder how it would know how many items in the table
[19:42:55] <dr_evil> the wonder of C++ ;)
[19:46:29] <dr_evil> mmu_man yes it does!
[19:46:42] <mmu_man> wow, wonder how it does it
[19:47:08] <mmu_man> well it appears as a table but probably is more like a vector to it
[19:47:10] <dr_evil> thats a standard feature
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[19:48:56] <mmu_man> hmm using BWindow::Lock() is nasty
[19:51:20] <mmu_man> hmm why doesn't MediaPlayer reply on hey get Frame
[19:51:44] <mmu_man> aw
[19:51:47] <DeadYak> get Frame of Window 0 ?
[19:51:52] <mmu_man> commented out default: in MessageReceived() !
[19:51:58] <DeadYak> whoops.
[19:52:12] <mmu_man> well it wasn't calling inherited anyway
[19:52:16] * mmu_man pets dr_evil
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[19:55:17] <dr_evil> mmu_man example at http://pastebin.ca/377410
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[19:55:53] <mmu_man> yeah
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[20:02:28] <dr_evil> does anyone know how BPicture can be tested? I saw a lot of optimizations, but I would like to test what i do
[20:03:35] <dr_evil> running the PictureTest from Demos will crash and trigger an internal gdb error
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[20:14:25] <CIA-22> marcusoverhagen * r20291 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ServerPicture.cpp: removed unnecessary use of const_cast
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[20:17:45] <dr_evil> hmm, now it works, must have been a compile problem
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[20:23:52] <MikeW> gmail is down for me
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[20:24:17] <MikeW> "oops, the sytem isn't responding, try again later", yadda yadda yadda
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[20:28:07] <Begasus> lo peeps
[20:28:11] <Gussoh> hello grul
[20:28:17] <grul> hello :)
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[21:04:53] <Stargater> re
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[21:19:25] <mmu_man> : undefined reference to `InfoListView::BInvoker virtual table'
[21:19:26] <mmu_man> WTF
[21:20:09] <mmu_man> oh :)
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[21:34:49] <mmu_man> hmm ListView ain't handy for that info window :-(
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[21:41:13] <dr_evil> I'm optimizing PicturePlayer...
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[21:52:35] <skoe> Mornin'
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[21:56:17] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[21:58:44] <skoe> lol
[22:01:48] <SiCuTDeUx> g'afternoon
[22:03:57] <skoe> Hi :)
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[22:26:46] <yonilevy> any web-admin around? this link: http://haikuhost.com/misc/haiku.vmx doesn't work (downloads page)
[22:27:13] <yonilevy> hi btw, i've just recently heard of haiku and am eager to try it out :)
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[22:29:55] <skoe> Hi yonilevy :), you'll find the Haiku Community is an Awesomly welcoming one.
[22:30:11] <skoe> You might have to send an E-Mail to the Mailing List in order to get an admin though...
[22:31:07] <steven_h> skoe, thanks for the help last night, seems I've got a bit of driver writing to do tho...
[22:31:20] <[Katisu]> Is this in downloads?
[22:31:42] <yonilevy> skoe, yeah i think i'll do that. the website hints of a good community, as it's designed with care for new comers :)
[22:31:47] <skoe> steven_h: Heh. NP.
[22:31:48] <[Katisu]> btw http://www.haikuhost.com/haiku.vmx
[22:32:01] <skoe> The websites still in progress, IIRC :)
[22:32:19] <yonilevy> [Katisu], thanks :) the link should be fixed though
[22:32:45] <steven_h> On the laptop, I have no USB/CD ... Can't get any files in :(
[22:33:03] <skoe> What laptop is it?
[22:33:09] <[Katisu]> Link is fixed
[22:33:14] <[Katisu]> thanks for point it out
[22:33:55] <steven_h> Fujitsu LOOX T5-53W   :D
[22:35:19] <skoe> Uh, brb Breakfast ;).
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[22:36:44] <steven_h> So I'm currently in a bind as to how to get this Laptop up-to-scratch for Development work... (Am downloading BeDeveloper Edition
[22:36:56] <steven_h> ... to see if that'll get me a stable platform with... peripherals)
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[22:40:08] <yonilevy> cool, haiku is running on my vmware :) i'm off to watch the google tech talk
[22:42:39] <skoe> @steven_h: So the ne2k driver didn't work?
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[22:43:54] <fleximus> anyone got an quite acual ppc build?
[22:43:59] <fleximus> actual
[22:44:09] <steven_h> Well, I couldn't see it even doing anything when i added/removed the card.
[22:44:13] <muuhBDXi> is haiku destop ready ?
[22:44:25] <steven_h> Logs, etc... were all blank... and listdev had nothing in it.
[22:44:26] <fleximus> wondering if it is something usable like the i386 build
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[22:45:00] <steven_h> I need to get into a full debug environment and check out what's going on... no idea how.
[22:45:18] <muuhBDXi> haiku was developed under google summer of code ?
[22:46:20] <muuhBDXi> i friend tells me that the NSA is the organization behind google is that true ?
[22:46:43] <skoe> muuhBDXi: Haiku is NOT desktop ready.
[22:47:07] <muuhBDXi> it isnt ?
[22:47:14] <muuhBDXi> why ?
[22:47:16] <skoe> steven_h: Does the laptop have Windows?
[22:47:29] <steven_h> Windows 98, yah.
[22:47:35] <skoe> muuhBDXi: Because it's pre/alpha quility. It's in the works, but theres only a small team.
[22:47:43] <skoe> Can you get the Dev ID and Vendor ID?
[22:48:07] <steven_h> Am at work (I believe we're on the same continent :P).. but I can google for it.
[22:48:22] <mmu_man> ..
[22:48:27] <skoe> Ah, well when you get home try adding the IDs to the file i told you earlier.
[22:48:35] <skoe> Are you in Australia? :P
[22:48:41] <steven_h> Canberra
[22:48:44] <muuhBDXi> will haiku put microdoft out of buissness ?
[22:48:47] <skoe> hehe
[22:48:55] <steven_h> I added the IDs... but there was nothing
[22:48:56] <skoe> muuhBDXi: No.
[22:49:02] <skoe> Dam :-/
[22:49:03] <muuhBDXi> it wont ?
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[22:49:09] <steven_h> I can't view logs, I can't see anything happening
[22:49:16] <steven_h> but... the card does light up entirely...
[22:49:24] <muuhBDXi> i love logs
[22:49:27] <skoe> muuhBDXi: Nothing, not Haiku, not Linux/UNIX/*BSD, or Apple will put Microsoft out of Business.
[22:49:39] <muuhBDXi> LOL
[22:49:51] <[Beta]> The EU might.
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[22:49:58] <[Beta]> </idle>
[22:49:59] <muuhBDXi> i bet the EU will
[22:50:04] <skoe> [Beta]: No, but they could do i fine job :P.
[22:50:04] <steven_h> vendor=0x14ea, dev=0xab08 is probably it.
[22:50:49] <[Beta]> what an ugly name for a card, Planex FNW-3602-TX CardBus Fast Ethernet
[22:50:56] * mmu_man raise the troll trout
[22:51:03] <steven_h> Maybe I should email to the List to work out exactly the best environment to get started.
[22:51:10] <[Beta]> anyone seen j_freeman ?
[22:51:11] <steven_h> [Beta], blame the Nihonjins!
[22:51:28] <steven_h> Came with the laptop when I imported it.
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[22:53:43] <steven_h> Also, there's a Mobility Driver on bebits, and it says 'Source Available' ... but not distributed with it...
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[22:55:18] <[Beta]> steven_h, you're wanting to write/port a driver ?
[22:55:50] <steven_h> For shits and giggles, I want to get that subnotebook fully supported.
[22:56:25] <steven_h> And so I'm trying to get a debug environment on it to work out why drivers that should work with my hardware aren't... but I have no idea where to start
[22:57:07] <steven_h> the CD-Rom is the funniest so far... everything I put in is "blank media", or so diskprobe says
[22:57:15] <steven_h> although it happily booted off it.
[22:57:34] <steven_h> makes me think i have to edit config.sys and type mscdex.exe
[22:58:47] <Ingenu> oh gods
[22:58:58] <Ingenu> aren't those crappy files a thing of the past noone will ever have to care about ?
[22:59:07] <[Beta]> try a linux livecd
[22:59:22] <JamesB192> I thought that MS said the deficient operating system was dead.
[23:00:08] <steven_h> [Beta], the hardware works perfectly fine... but if you mean to develop in, won't i run into disk space issues?
[23:00:48] * JamesB192 actually uses Gentoo Linux. (most of the time)
[23:01:17] <[Beta]> no, to avoid editing confis.sys; for beos development, you're best in BeOS for the time being. Linux building is supported, but I cant imagine its as much fun :)
[23:01:30] <[Katisu]> Planex FNW-3602-TX CardBus Fast Ethernet = ADMtek 985 chipset
[23:01:45] <steven_h> heh, sorry, that was a joke... It's just sad that the ATAPI isn't working properly.
[23:02:13] <JamesB192> Building under linux is fairly easy if you're using a 32 bit userland on x86.
[23:02:20] <[Katisu]> I started working on a ADMtek 983 driver, been too busy lately
[23:02:20] <steven_h> I have BeOS MAX v3.1 installed on it's own partition (using it's bootloader) and the CD-Drive fails to recognise anything I put into it when running
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[23:03:03] <[Beta]> steven_h, what do you need the CD ROM for ? :)
[23:03:24] <steven_h> Well, USB doesn't work, nor ethernet, nor do I have a floppy drive.
[23:03:36] <steven_h> so... burning CDs was going to be the initial way to get data into it.
[23:03:48] <steven_h> I suppose I can copy it all onto the windows parition... (Haiku Source, etc)
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[23:03:52] <steven_h> and then start building from there.
[23:04:03] <skoe> BeOS Should be able to mount the Windows Partition...
[23:04:04] <JamesB192> 64 bit userland on AMD64 breaks it, and I haven'ttested the 32 bit useland on AMD64. I also don't have any other hardware, unless someone can tell me how to buildit on a SunRay.
[23:04:18] <steven_h> skoe, yeah it does... I just realised that as an option.
[23:04:28] <skoe> :)
[23:04:44] <[Beta]> you cant build haiku under windows though.
[23:05:08] <steven_h> yah, copy onto windows partition (inside windows) reboot into MAX then compile and install to Haiku partition (then boot)
[23:05:25] <Ingenu> ah crap still didn't try BeOS R5 neither Zeta 1.21 on my Core 2 Duo
[23:05:28] <Ingenu> anyone did ?
[23:06:05] <steven_h> BeOS MAX booted to partition selection on my Core Duo... but didn't like SATA
[23:06:50] <steven_h> So I couldn't install... and didn't try Live CD
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[23:17:48] <skoe> steven_h: All BeOS CDs are Live CDs :)
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[23:20:34] <steven_h> Yah, but i hit 'install' when i tried it.
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[23:20:45] <steven_h> didn't bother to then reboot and try 'Live CD'
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[23:22:27] <skoe> And it brought up the installer?
[23:22:34] <skoe> Just hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, and hit restart desktop ;)
[23:22:45] <steven_h> So many tricks to learn.
[23:22:51] <skoe> Yep
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[23:32:10] <steven_h> yey.. BSD driver for my NIC... I imagine porting wont be easy...
[23:32:24] <steven_h> [Katisu], any chance I could learn from what you've done with the 983?
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[23:39:32] <[Katisu]> steven_h, probably not at the moment
[23:40:11] <[Katisu]> best thing is too look at the drivers in SVN like the sis900
[23:47:19] <Ingenu> night
[23:48:54] <skoe> night Ingenu
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