January 30, 2005 
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January 30, 2005 [00:04:35] *** Korli2 has joined #haiku[00:12:34] *** qwm has quit IRC[00:14:59] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[00:16:50] *** qwm has joined #haiku[00:23:10] *** Methe has quit IRC[00:32:00] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/kits/interface/Alert.cpp: Fixed button size and placement issues with the B_WIDTH_FROM_WIDEST mode, refactored code using OpenTracker style.[00:32:45] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[00:48:42] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[00:51:35] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[00:54:08] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[00:57:14] *** mwilber has quit IRC[00:58:55] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[01:03:53] *** __nitro__-OUT has quit IRC[01:03:58] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[01:06:10] *** qwm has quit IRC[01:09:44] *** qwm has joined #haiku[01:25:41] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[01:26:17] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku[01:34:04] *** Cramit has quit IRC[01:36:04] <jonaskirilla> anybody got a hint on what 'indent' options to use for Haiku code?[01:36:31] <jonaskirilla> the --help text doesn't spell out what they are[01:37:57] *** qwm_ has joined #haiku[01:37:58] <jonaskirilla> found this: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?indent[01:38:39] <[Beta]> http://www.opentracker.be/guidelines.html[01:38:45] <jonaskirilla> -kr is probably a good start[01:39:00] *** fyysik has quit IRC[01:39:12] <jonaskirilla> [Beta]: yeah I know[01:39:37] <[Beta]> oh, you wanted more help ?[01:39:40] <[Beta]> let me see[01:39:53] <jonaskirilla> looks like a tedious process of crossreferencing the man page and the style guide[01:40:11] <jonaskirilla> there are lots and lots of options[01:40:13] <[Beta]> true[01:40:26] <jonaskirilla> -i4[01:40:35] <jonaskirilla> I guess[01:41:44] <Procton> indent is C only, isn't it?[01:42:41] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[01:42:42] <jonaskirilla> oh right. :I[01:42:53] *** MikeW has quit IRC[01:42:56] <jonaskirilla> Procton: does it mess up C++`?[01:43:17] <Procton> probably, since it doesn't know what to do.[01:43:24] <Procton> but.. I've never tried.[01:43:41] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/private/kernel/util/DoublyLinkedList2.h: An alternative doubly linked list implementation which is far more complete and usable.[01:43:56] *** qwm has quit IRC[01:45:08] <jonaskirilla> K&R looks weird[01:45:38] <jonaskirilla> I prefer curly brackets at the same depth[01:45:54] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/tests/servers/registrar/ (message_deliverer_test.cpp Jamfile):[01:45:54] <CIA-6> Added a program testing the registrar's MessageDeliverer. Particularly[01:45:54] <CIA-6> with respect to whether the delivery still works when the port is full.[01:45:54] <CIA-6> It seems to do (now).[01:46:01] *** slaad has joined #haiku[01:46:29] <[Beta]> doesnt look like it does c++[01:48:32] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/Jamfile: Added kernel util header for DoublyLinkedList.[01:48:34] <jonaskirilla> well, it didn't complain, and the source does look different from the original[01:48:56] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/kits/app/Application.cpp: Made some debug output debug conditional.[01:48:58] <[Beta]> what'd break it, template code ? or something like that[01:49:34] <jonaskirilla> this is just simple C++ app.. single file shell util[01:50:09] <jonaskirilla> no templates or exceptions or much of anything, just one BApplication subclass[01:52:23] <jonaskirilla> man, who came up with these lame styles[01:52:41] <jonaskirilla> it's not like we have to save space anymore[01:55:02] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[01:55:24] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/ (MessageDeliverer.h MessageDeliverer.cpp): (log message trimmed)[01:55:24] <CIA-6> * Added per-port sanity limits. We limit the number and summed size of[01:55:24] <CIA-6> messages.[01:55:24] <CIA-6> * We now maintain a second message list per port, which is sorted by[01:55:24] <CIA-6> timeout time. Thus we can drop timed out messages as early as possible.[01:55:26] <CIA-6> * Fixed a bug which caused messages to disappear in the port list.[01:55:28] <CIA-6> * Now delete a port not only when an error occurred when delivering a[02:09:36] *** Korli2 has quit IRC[02:11:19] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[02:11:34] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC[02:11:58] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/private/kernel/MessagingServiceDefs.h: Removed obsolete struct.[02:12:33] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[02:15:23] *** qwm has joined #haiku[02:17:33] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/ (MessagingService.cpp MessagingService.h):[02:17:33] <CIA-6> * Added missing MessagingCommandHandler methods.[02:17:33] <CIA-6> * Added a class for handling "send message" commands and install by[02:17:33] <CIA-6> default. At least in theory messages issued by the kernel should now[02:17:33] <CIA-6> be delivered to the target. Still untested.[02:17:34] <CIA-6> * Added lock to protect the command handler map.[02:19:23] *** illissius has quit IRC[02:20:17] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[02:21:24] *** qwm_ has quit IRC[02:24:21] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[02:26:30] *** Procton has quit IRC[02:44:52] *** ConneX has quit IRC[02:45:50] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:47:12] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:51:08] *** oco has quit IRC[02:54:04] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/os/drivers/fs_interface.h:[02:54:04] <CIA-6> Proposal for a replacement of the notify_listener() and[02:54:04] <CIA-6> send_notification() interface, which I personally find quite ugly.[02:54:04] <CIA-6> Each notification type gets its own function, which makes very clear,[02:54:04] <CIA-6> which parameters are to be supplied. Also note the addition of the[02:54:04] <CIA-6> `name' parameter for the `entry removed' notification and `fromName'[02:54:06] <CIA-6> for `entry moved'.[03:13:37] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[03:29:37] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[03:34:30] *** Korli has quit IRC[03:36:28] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[03:39:03] *** shackan_ has quit IRC[03:39:35] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[03:47:11] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[03:50:59] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[03:55:21] *** oco has joined #haiku[04:11:20] *** oco has quit IRC[04:12:24] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[04:15:38] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[04:21:29] *** MikeW has quit IRC[04:26:50] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[04:34:17] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/kits/interface/Alert.cpp: Fixed horizontal button spacing issues and window size issues when in the B_OFFSET_SPACING mode.[04:51:00] *** tear_dr0p has quit IRC[04:53:24] *** lymon has quit IRC[05:16:35] *** ^majik^ has quit IRC[06:27:01] *** LupusMichaelis has quit IRC[06:30:32] *** khorben has quit IRC[06:38:03] <NathanW> Anyone here run net_server?[06:43:28] <CIA-6> nwhitehorn * current/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bumped MDR version number to 3.0.2.[06:43:35] <slaad> AVR[06:45:43] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/balert/ (AlertTest.cpp AlertTest.h): Initial check in for the BAlert tests.[06:46:25] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/InterfaceKitTestAddon.cpp: Added BAlert tests to Interface Kit tests.[06:47:14] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/Jamfile: Added BAlert tests to Jamfile[07:00:16] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:02:05] <CIA-6> nwhitehorn * current/src/servers/mail/ (HISTORY Jamfile LICENSE README install.sh): Changed credits to Haiku, separated out version history from readme, updated version history, and updated contact information.[07:04:01] <CIA-6> nwhitehorn * current/src/prefs/mail/ConfigWindow.cpp: Updated credits and contact information for Haiku[07:10:49] *** voidster has quit IRC[07:11:31] <CIA-6> nwhitehorn * current/src/servers/mail/install.sh: Fixed an error in the install script[07:25:58] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:39:54] *** illissius_ has joined #haiku[07:48:22] *** illissius- has quit IRC[08:31:44] *** RageMax has quit IRC[08:33:37] *** frankps has joined #haiku[08:33:45] <slaad> Jan 30 07:33:45 <slaad>[08:33:48] <slaad> Remoin.[08:53:04] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[08:53:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[08:59:38] *** voidref has quit IRC[09:09:02] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[09:15:29] *** Begasus has quit IRC[09:26:11] *** LupusMichaelis has joined #haiku[09:28:23] *** TLF has joined #haiku[10:05:35] <@mmu_man> ohh http://expert-zone.com/[10:11:01] <w-ber> ooo, nice[10:14:32] *** LupusMichaelis has quit IRC[10:18:39] *** znation has quit IRC[10:19:10] *** znation has joined #haiku[10:26:44] *** Sg_Henry has joined #haiku[10:44:50] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[11:03:11] *** frankps has quit IRC[11:03:26] *** Methe has joined #haiku[11:10:38] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku[11:16:38] <w-ber> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/01/29/2017244.shtml?tid=222&tid=176[11:18:02] <Methe> ahah[11:38:01] *** TLF has quit IRC[11:49:00] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku[11:55:06] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[11:58:41] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[12:16:07] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[12:16:07] *** Sg_Henry has quit IRC[12:16:54] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[12:24:49] *** thaflo has joined #haiku[12:28:37] *** frankps has joined #haiku[12:29:06] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:34:26] *** tqh has joined #haiku[12:36:27] *** Korli2 has joined #haiku[12:36:57] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[12:36:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[12:37:18] *** Korli2 is now known as Korli[12:37:32] *** Korli has quit IRC[12:37:38] *** Korli has joined #haiku[12:37:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[12:41:01] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[12:42:17] <CIA-6> phoudoin * current/src/add-ons/print/transports/hp_jetdirect/SetupWindow.cpp: The port BTextControl is now inited to default HP JetDirect protocol port number (9100).[13:02:02] <tqh> silence is coding[13:02:37] <Methe> so bless it[13:03:03] <@mahlzeit> silencio![13:03:48] <Methe> ahah[13:03:51] * Methe pets mahlzeit[13:04:06] <Methe> howdy ?[13:04:44] <@mahlzeit> tonight a car burned down in my street[13:04:57] <Methe> why did you do that ?[13:05:10] <@mahlzeit> testing my pyrokinetic powers[13:05:40] <Methe> so I guess it's now justified[13:06:39] <@mahlzeit> just like the ancients of mumu[13:06:51] <Methe> the> the what ?[13:07:08] <kr1stof> KLF![13:07:18] <@mahlzeit> http://lyrictracker.com/show.php?id=NjYyNjk=[13:07:31] <kr1stof> early ninetees[13:07:50] <@mahlzeit> yep[13:08:30] <kr1stof> Oh - I was wrong 1999? I could have sworn it´s from 1991[13:08:39] <Methe> ahah[13:08:41] <Methe> fun lyrics[13:08:48] <Methe> wonder what the dong looks like[13:09:25] <@mahlzeit> heh i see here 1987[13:09:41] <@mahlzeit> the tammy wynette is a remix, i think[13:11:50] * Methe listens to Radio404 - UNKLE - Rabbit In Your Headlights[13:13:22] <kr1stof> http://ebm-radio.mine.nu:8080[13:13:32] <Methe> :)[13:13:44] <Methe> omg[13:13:45] * kr1stof Sara Noxx "Summer never again"[13:13:54] <Methe> it's always dark in this stream[13:14:07] <kr1stof> And so is my soul ;-)[13:14:59] * Methe points the lamp to kr1stof. Plug It[13:15:10] <kr1stof> S.H.NA.R.P.H. "Gottes Furcht"[13:15:34] <Dr_Evil> np: Utz Utz Utz Utz Utz Utz Utz Utz Utz[13:15:37] <kr1stof> I eveb go to concerts and festivals like this.[13:15:52] <kr1stof> Dr_Evil exactly![13:16:50] * Methe listens to Radio404 - Ennio Morricone - Theme of "Inquierie on a citizen beyond suspect"[13:23:29] *** Sg_Henry has joined #haiku[13:24:21] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[13:25:14] *** khorben has joined #haiku[13:34:20] * mahlzeit listens to coco rosie[13:34:53] <Methe> :)[13:35:04] <@mahlzeit> you know them, Methe?[13:35:18] <Methe> that name echoes in my head[13:35:25] <Methe> but can't fix a song to it[13:35:30] <Methe> :)[13:35:35] <@mahlzeit> you should check out the song "jesus loves me", it's great ;-)[13:35:45] <Methe> k[13:44:38] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[13:49:08] *** AtomoZero has joined #haiku[13:53:58] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[14:00:51] *** znation has quit IRC[14:01:11] *** znation has joined #haiku[14:06:19] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku[14:06:29] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[14:10:34] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[14:17:46] <jonaskirilla> hey, is there another general BeOS development IRC channel or mailinglist?[14:17:49] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[14:18:13] <ConneX> jonaskirilla, maybe #beclan[14:18:37] <jonaskirilla> there's #bedev, but it appears to be ignored by the masses[14:18:45] <jonaskirilla> ConneX: thanks, I'll check it out[14:18:53] <ConneX> check their site as well[14:22:04] <jonaskirilla> ConneX: David Reid, cool[14:22:12] <jonaskirilla> How's his butter coming along?[14:23:48] <agentmumu> re[14:23:50] <ConneX> i dunno actually.. :)[14:24:00] <jonaskirilla> his #butter appears abandoned[14:24:25] <jonaskirilla> he's here somewhere, or his nick zathras is[14:24:32] <jonaskirilla> according to nickserv[14:24:58] <Dr_Evil> they are in #beclan[14:25:17] <jonaskirilla> oh right, there he is[14:25:29] <jonaskirilla> yeah, consolidate, smart move[14:26:04] <jonaskirilla> I had such an idea for kirilla way back, but it didn't turn into much[14:31:22] *** LupusMichaelis has joined #haiku[14:41:28] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[14:42:39] <fyysik> frankps - here?[14:47:27] *** ConneX has quit IRC[14:52:19] <@Korli> hey fyysik[14:52:37] <@Korli> do you use BSoundPlayer from haiku or a modified version ?[14:52:47] <@Korli> i> i mean in VLC[15:01:39] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC[15:04:12] *** slaad has quit IRC[15:09:38] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/kernel/core/fs/ (node_monitor.cpp Jamfile node_monitor.c): Renamed node_monitor.c to node_monitor.cpp and fixed implicit conversions from void*.[15:09:53] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[15:12:45] *** Begasus has quit IRC[15:17:14] *** illissius_ has quit IRC[15:17:33] *** illissius has joined #haiku[15:29:41] *** Korli has quit IRC[15:32:12] *** oco has joined #haiku[15:34:12] <fyysik> Korli - u use older one, bit modified. Lates Haiku one advertised by Marcus had problems incorporating in VLC code. I started to solve those trpubles, but then got those crashes again. I will revise it now[15:34:28] <fyysik> s/u use/i use/[15:35:33] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[15:36:02] *** Korli has joined #haiku[15:36:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[15:36:21] <fyysik> Korli - i use older version of BSoundPlayer, bit modified. Lates Haiku one advertised by Marcus had problems incorporating in VLC code. I started to solve those trpubles, but then got those crashes again. I will revise it now[15:37:48] *** voidref has joined #haiku[15:37:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref[15:39:03] <@Korli> fyysik ok thanks, i wasn't uptodate[15:39:47] <Dr_Evil> fyysik thanks for considering using of the new code, I put much work into it[15:40:06] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[15:41:24] *** Korli has quit IRC[15:41:26] <fyysik> Dr_Evil - i hope on your help when i start with it[15:42:01] * fyysik is busy today with pushing mozilla/FF locking patch through[15:44:03] *** Konrad has quit IRC[15:45:35] *** Korli has joined #haiku[15:45:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[15:48:47] *** naaina has joined #haiku[15:53:24] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[15:56:52] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[15:57:32] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[16:07:28] *** fyysik has quit IRC[16:08:10] *** DaaT has quit IRC[16:25:11] *** m_eiman is now known as m_cleaning[16:27:54] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[16:32:30] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[16:39:09] *** mwilber has quit IRC[16:41:00] <tic> Didn't it use to be an RTL8169 driver somewhere?[16:41:17] <Dr_Evil> yes i wrote one[16:41:23] <Dr_Evil> but its hidden on bebits[16:41:23] <tic> Right. Where is it now?[16:41:29] <Dr_Evil> hidden[16:41:35] <tic> So, not possible at all to get hold of it?[16:41:39] <w-ber> X marks the spot[16:41:42] <Dr_Evil> but its in haiku cvs[16:41:54] <tic> okay, good enough. ;) Does it support the 8110?[16:42:03] <Dr_Evil> should work[16:42:21] <Dr_Evil> but I need someone to test and confirm this[16:42:36] <tic> nice. There's a new Pentium M-board out, the Soltek, which uses the 8110 chipset. It's only US$183 compared to the DFI and AOpen who both cost ~US$250[16:42:36] <Dr_Evil> jam rtl8169[16:42:56] <tic> If the Soltek has a fixed PCI/AGP lock, I'm going to buy it next month or so.[16:43:42] <@Korli> tic have you a web link to this MB ?[16:43:46] <tic> yeah, sec..[16:43:53] <tic> or well, just look at my blog, latest posting. :)[16:43:57] <tic> http://mikael.jansson.be[16:44:12] <tic> dual gbit-lan etc.[16:44:43] <tic> I might actually buy two; one to replace my noisy P3-450-based server box. A Celeron M will be plenty fast and can be cooled passively without problem.[16:44:51] <@Korli> btw the DFI one was reviewed on hardward.fr[16:45:06] <tic> Yeah.[16:45:30] <tic> The DFI's fan is very noisy and it has no standard S478 mounting holes, which the AOpen has.[16:45:39] <tic> also, it seems the locks works better on the AOpen compared to the DFI.[16:46:13] <tic> there's a PCI-X slot on the DFI if you're into that. ;) Otherwise, I'd go for the AOpen. But now, I'm going to wait for the soltek.[16:46:31] <@Korli> they write that the locks don't work right with ATI cards[16:46:42] <tic> there's an interesting overclocking thread over at xtremesystems, search for "dothan overclocking thread" on google and you'll find it. I'm not really into overclocking and such normally, but you can clock a dothan system pretty much.[16:47:09] <tic> Korli, no, the problem is that the AGP bus isn't locked /at all/ on 33/66, but on 88/44, but the ATI cards (and never nVidias) are sensitive about the AGP bus speed.[16:48:12] <tic> I hope NewEgg will have the Solteks once they go into production.[16:49:02] <@Korli> you buy in usa from sweden ?[16:49:50] <tic> yeah well, I'm going to order it to a guy I know in the US, who will then send me the package to Sweden.[16:53:38] <@Korli> ok[16:54:24] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[17:06:20] <Dr_Evil> http://www.soltek.com.tw/soltek/html/2005/050105/050105.htm[17:06:56] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/Debug.h: Added WARNING macro.[17:08:45] <@Korli> Dr_Evil SATA wouldn't be supported on BeOS with this kind of MB[17:09:08] <Dr_Evil> no, sata drivers are not existent[17:09:31] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/private/kernel/util/AutoLock.h:[17:09:32] <CIA-6> Moved generic auto locking code out of[17:09:32] <CIA-6> <disk_device_manager/KDiskDeviceUtils.h> into <util/AutoLock.h>.[17:09:32] <CIA-6> Added instantiations for recursive locks (moved from vfs.cpp) and[17:09:32] <CIA-6> mutexes.[17:10:21] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/headers/private/kernel/disk_device_manager/KDiskDeviceUtils.h: Moved generic autolocking code to <util/AutoLock.h>.[17:11:12] * fyysik wish ti know if LBA 48 bit is supported in Haiku[17:12:09] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/ (headers/private/kernel/vfs.h src/kernel/core/fs/vfs.cpp):[17:12:09] <CIA-6> * Moved the autolocking code for recursive lockers to <util/AutoLock.h>.[17:12:09] <CIA-6> * Added resolve_mount_point_to_volume_root() version for external use[17:12:09] <CIA-6> (by the node monitor).[17:12:33] <tic> still, it has a regular PATA port.[17:12:37] <tic> or two[17:13:42] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[17:14:00] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/kernel/core/fs/node_monitor.cpp: Exemplarily implemented notify_entry_moved(). Untested.[17:15:03] <tic> Korli, if the SATA chipset is integrated properly in the mobo, no drivers are needed. the nForce3, for example, apparently doesn't need drivers.[17:16:10] <tic> Celeron M 340 @ 1.5 GHz: US$99, and a Soltek mATX: US$183. So somewhere around US$300 with a better cooler so one could run the system passively.[17:16:18] <tic> s/run/cool[17:16:39] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[17:17:03] <@Korli> tic when an external chip is installed as Promise ones it doesn't work out the box[17:17:25] <@Korli> AFAIK[17:17:32] <tic> Korli, correct. The DFIs _should_ work as it's integrated in the i6300 SB.[17:17:43] <tic> but then, the DFI has other disadvantages.[17:19:38] *** AtomoZero has quit IRC[17:24:01] *** lymon has joined #haiku[17:29:16] *** oco has quit IRC[17:47:55] <pres589> tic: wtf is a Celeron M 340?[17:48:10] <sys2> celeron mobile? :>[17:48:24] <pres589> no, is it a Dothan based CPU, or something else[17:48:43] <pres589> and Celeron Mobile != Celeron M[17:48:48] <pres589> that's 2 different products[17:49:13] <pres589> heh, at least 2 diferrent products, since Celeron has been a brand name for about 4000 years now[17:50:01] *** mmadia has quit IRC[17:50:17] <sys2> damn[17:50:22] <sys2> so jesus had a computer?[17:50:25] <pres589> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/info.htm#cm[17:50:29] <pres589> that was 2000 years ago[17:50:31] <sys2> no wounder he reached so far out in the world[17:50:34] <sys2> yeah[17:50:36] <pres589> so yeah, probably[17:50:38] <sys2> if it has been around 4000 years[17:53:20] <pres589> I'm curious how well these Celeron M's perform[17:53:33] <pres589> tic gets wood for stuff like Via C3's so they might be junk.[17:54:16] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[17:57:18] <tic> those celeron m:s perform like the banias.[17:57:23] <lymon> Celeron M is more efiicient in MHz that P4 architecture, its completle new[17:57:31] <tic> Dothan core (90 nm), but only 1M L2 cache.[17:57:42] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[17:57:44] <lymon> banias is a codename for one model of M product line[17:57:45] <pres589> which chips were the Banias?[17:57:47] <tic> So while the Celeron M isn't very fast, it's plenty enough to be a server, and specifically to replace my P3-450.[17:57:51] <tic> pres589, the old ones.[17:57:54] <pres589> ah[17:57:54] <pres589> ok[17:57:55] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[17:58:05] <tic> the current crop is called Dothan.[17:58:11] <lymon> Celeron M IS fast[17:58:13] <pres589> I know the Dothan stuff and I know it's decent[17:58:22] <tic> Banias: 130 nm, 1MB L2 cache. Dothan: 90 nm, 2M L2 cache.[17:58:26] <tic> yeah, it's not bad at all.[17:58:31] <tic> and you can really overclock it.[17:58:34] <pres589> There are some 90nm Celeron M's though[17:58:39] <lymon> Celeron M 1.8 GHz is not Celeron (P4 code) 1.8 GHz[17:58:47] <lymon> in performance[17:58:48] <tic> pres589, exactly. Like the Celeron M 340.[17:58:54] <pres589> 340 is 130[17:58:59] <tic> oh, it is?[17:59:03] <pres589> yes[17:59:04] <tic> I thought it was one of the never Dothan-based Celerons.[17:59:05] <pres589> again[17:59:11] <pres589> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/info.htm#cm[17:59:15] <pres589> lookit that you twink ;)[17:59:23] <pres589> 370 is 90nm[17:59:24] <tic> oh, didn't see that. just got back to the 'puter.[17:59:30] <tic> Ahh, okay.[17:59:34] <pres589> unacceptable! ;)[17:59:46] <tic> hehe. been doing math. statistics.[17:59:47] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[17:59:50] <pres589> ah[18:00:00] <pres589> I've physics to start on *soon*, but I need to eat first[18:00:04] <pres589> and put on clothes, I just got up[18:00:06] <tic> going to jump in the shower and continue with it for 30 mins or so, and then get on with my talk due tuesday.[18:00:07] <tic> haha[18:00:18] <pres589> ok[18:00:20] <tic> I got back from work 1.5 hours ago.[18:00:21] <tic> :][18:00:24] <pres589> Check you later :)[18:02:12] <tic> uhhh http://www.ninjashot.com/blog/[18:02:15] * tic away[18:04:33] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:05:05] *** adioanca has joined #haiku[18:07:31] *** adioanca has quit IRC[18:09:39] *** znation has quit IRC[18:10:42] *** znation has joined #haiku[18:11:19] *** lymon has quit IRC[18:11:21] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[18:15:26] *** Methe has quit IRC[18:17:20] <DaaT> hey petterhj[18:18:01] <petterhj> hi DaaT[18:18:12] <DaaT> how's it going?[18:18:35] <petterhj> fine fine thank you :) and you?[18:18:41] <DaaT> doing good thx[18:18:51] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[18:20:12] <petterhj> :)[18:23:34] <DaaT> going out, take care[18:23:38] *** DaaT has quit IRC[18:24:31] *** TLF has joined #haiku[18:27:45] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[18:27:55] *** BGA has joined #haiku[18:27:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[18:28:25] *** dipp has joined #haiku[18:29:00] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[18:29:11] *** ConneX has quit IRC[18:31:57] *** d0gmaz has joined #haiku[18:32:09] <d0gmaz> please someone help me, i use the ramlimiter bootfloppy to boot, that was my first problem but now it doesnt see my disklayout correct i have an 200gb hardisk 100gb[ntfs] 8gb[fat] <-- this one is for beos before the first 128gb 90gb[ntfs] but it doesnt show my partitions right what to do...?[18:41:39] *** m_cleaning is now known as m_eiman[19:00:50] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:00:59] *** Cramit has joined #haiku[19:01:15] *** mmadia is now known as mmadia_[19:05:02] *** m_eiman is now known as m_dinner[19:05:38] *** Methe has joined #haiku[19:06:41] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[19:06:42] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[19:07:05] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[19:07:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[19:09:22] *** mwilber has quit IRC[19:09:46] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[19:11:48] *** lordcoxis has joined #haiku[19:12:19] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[19:14:42] *** illissius has quit IRC[19:15:47] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[19:21:35] *** MikeW has quit IRC[19:21:45] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[19:23:09] *** illissius_ has joined #haiku[19:26:18] *** m_dinner is now known as m_eiman[19:32:08] *** illissius- has quit IRC[19:44:58] *** lordcoxis has quit IRC[19:44:58] *** Cramit has quit IRC[19:49:07] <CIA-6> bonefish * current/src/servers/registrar/MessagingService.cpp: Return B_NO_MEMORY, if the command handler could *not* be allocated. First tests indicate that the messaging service basically seems to be working. Didn't test yet, if that's still true, when an area is full.[19:51:22] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[20:06:07] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[20:09:05] *** znation has quit IRC[20:11:09] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[20:13:06] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:25:58] *** RageMax has joined #haiku[20:27:04] *** thies has joined #haiku[20:33:33] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[20:36:48] *** mmadia_ has quit IRC[20:37:38] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[20:37:48] *** fyysik has quit IRC[20:43:07] *** Begasus has quit IRC[20:43:32] <tic> Isn't AGG too slow for our purposes?[20:43:37] <d0gmaz> anyone knows a tutorial for the workaround with a system with more than 1024mb ram?[20:43:55] <tic> check out wiki.bebits.com[20:44:04] <tic> (or temporarily remove the ram stick....)[20:44:14] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[20:44:15] <tic> s/the/a[20:44:28] <d0gmaz> yeah but the zbeos on bebits is not working so i need to do it by hand[20:47:19] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[20:47:29] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[20:51:29] *** Koki has joined #haiku[20:52:04] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/balert/ (AlertTest.cpp AlertTest.h): Created structures to make it much easier to test BAlert's various options.[21:01:51] <d0gmaz> what kinda file is the zbeos is it extractable? can i add things?[21:06:46] *** thaflo_ has joined #haiku[21:06:46] *** thaflo has quit IRC[21:06:56] *** thaflo_ is now known as thaflo[21:07:20] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku[21:11:07] *** frankps has quit IRC[21:23:10] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[21:23:10] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[21:23:27] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[21:33:01] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[21:33:13] *** DaaT has quit IRC[21:41:36] *** M199 has quit IRC[21:41:37] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[21:49:50] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[21:57:02] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[21:57:24] <fyysik> Dr_Evil - what happened with your NIC drivers? cannot found it at bebits[21:58:40] <tic> fyysik, it's in the Haiku CVS tree.[21:59:53] <fyysik> i'm unsure if those weren't removed from haiku too[22:00:32] <tic> nah, I asked him just a couple of hours ago.[22:00:46] <d0gmaz> fyysik im gonna buy a smaller harddrive im get[22:01:00] <d0gmaz> ting tired of searching[22:01:11] <d0gmaz> pressed the enter by excident :P[22:01:33] *** dipp has quit IRC[22:03:23] *** TLF has quit IRC[22:09:27] <fyysik> can you give me URL? i wish too look more close which NIC chipsets are supported in Haiku at the moment[22:09:34] <Dr_Evil> they will return to bebits fyysik, and they will remain in haiku cvs, and can be found there[22:10:03] <Dr_Evil> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/open-beos/current/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/rtl8169/[22:11:43] <agentmumu> <pvah> when i got my cable modem.......i had to get rid of about 4 friends in order to manage my time[22:11:46] *** tic has quit IRC[22:12:25] *** illissius` has joined #haiku[22:14:44] <fyysik> thanks Dr_Evil - problem is that friends at mozilla.org use wmvare to run BeOS and support us. But wmvare has weird choice for NIC emulation - AMD PCNet/LANCE/NE2100 - so i searched for all NICs supported in BeOS to llok if some of them has 2100 support, but noticed that your work was disappeared[22:16:22] *** m_eiman has quit IRC[22:16:32] <fyysik> wmvare developers for some reason do think that it is most supported modern NIC for all possible OS-es, so i was surprised when didn't found one for BeOS[22:16:55] *** illissius_ has quit IRC[22:17:00] <fyysik> and not only modern - there is even PCNet for ISA[22:17:11] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[22:21:37] <CIA-6> mwilber * current/src/tests/kits/interface/balert/ (AlertTest.cpp AlertTest.h): Added more tests for single button Alerts and added tests for two and three button Alerts.[22:21:43] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[22:23:22] <d0gmaz> how far from done is the development for supporting bigger hardisks?[22:24:39] <thaflo> 20 km[22:24:49] <thaflo> :)[22:25:07] <@Korli> thaflo and we're walking[22:25:17] <d0gmaz> crawling[22:25:23] <@Korli> even[22:25:35] <thaflo> tappling[22:25:44] <d0gmaz> what's that?[22:25:56] <thaflo> no idea[22:25:57] <fyysik> but YT tells that they support big disks already[22:26:12] <thaflo> yes?[22:26:14] <@Korli> fyysik that's what i was about to write[22:26:25] <fyysik> ?[22:26:29] <@Korli> fyysik it isn't verified[22:26:34] <fyysik> ahh[22:28:39] <Konrad> Whats the limit? 120Gb?[22:29:11] <Konrad> Is it disks, or can I make smaller partitions, and it will work?[22:29:19] <d0gmaz> no[22:29:21] <fyysik> disk[22:29:26] <fyysik> 32 bit LBA limit[22:29:46] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[22:29:46] <Konrad> Oh IC[22:29:52] <@Korli> http://bugzilla.yellowtab.com/show_bug.cgi?id=407 ?[22:29:53] <Konrad> So 120Gb is the limit then[22:29:56] <fyysik> no problem with SCSI[22:30:14] <fyysik> or USB disks[22:30:43] <Konrad> Oh, so it can be fixed with the IDE replacement driver then?[22:30:49] <Konrad> If someone changes the drivers?[22:30:51] <Konrad> -s[22:31:45] <d0gmaz> so yt is currently not supporting bigger disks[22:32:16] <@Korli> d0gmaz it's supposed to be fixed[22:32:29] <Konrad> Korli for Haiku also?[22:32:47] <fyysik> yeah, when i last looked at code of IDE replacement in haiku, there were some initial outcommended 48 LB sentenses:)[22:33:27] <@Korli> not sure how well it works[22:33:53] <Konrad> Time to watch some tv.. night folks[22:33:54] *** Konrad has quit IRC[22:34:32] <d0gmaz> yt rc3 uses the idereplacement too wich is on bebits they put it in folder experimental[22:39:18] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[22:40:20] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[22:40:29] *** frankps has joined #haiku[22:41:41] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[22:43:01] *** slaad has joined #haiku[22:44:28] *** pres589 has quit IRC[22:51:48] *** petterhj has quit IRC[22:53:02] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:56:43] *** d0gmaz has quit IRC[22:57:50] *** mwilber has quit IRC[23:02:04] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[23:03:53] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[23:05:25] *** thaflo has quit IRC[23:07:15] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[23:27:10] *** Begasus has quit IRC[23:30:56] *** Korli has quit IRC[23:37:38] *** swer has joined #haiku[23:37:38] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:41:13] *** frankps has quit IRC[23:41:52] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[23:44:34] *** lymon has joined #haiku[23:45:21] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:45:21] *** naaina has quit IRC[23:45:53] *** dipp has joined #haiku[23:52:21] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[23:56:11] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[23:59:32] *** dipp has quit IRC