January 23, 2005 
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January 23, 2005 [00:00:14] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[00:00:18] <CIA-10> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/screen_savers/haiku/ScreenSaver.cpp: Made some coding style changes, no code changes.[00:01:16] <CIA-10> mmu_man * current/src/apps/bin/trash.cpp: add --restore option (acts as untrash)[00:10:58] *** konrad has quit IRC[00:11:26] <NathanW> haha[00:11:32] <NathanW> I haven't written it yet[00:11:55] <NathanW> But I have an Epson, so I was thinking about it[00:12:08] <NathanW> I managed to find the ESC/P2 specification[00:12:15] <fyysik> ik> i have it too[00:12:45] <NathanW> And it doesn't look bad, on that end anyway[00:12:53] <NathanW> And writing print driverse doesn't seem so bad either[00:12:59] <fyysik> ik> i even wrote driver for esc P 15 15 years ago - for RSX-11 OS:)[00:13:09] <NathanW> hahaha[00:15:28] <NathanW> now you just need to dig it up :)[00:15:34] <fyysik> ehh[00:15:49] <NathanW> Do you actually have an ESC P dot matrix printer[00:15:52] <NathanW> ?[00:15:58] <fyysik> i'm almost satisfied - two big deal in 2days[00:16:12] <fyysik> yup, i do[00:16:24] <NathanW> wow, cool[00:16:39] <NathanW> mmm -- tqh's new firefox build is nice[00:16:52] <CIA-10> adioanca * current/headers/private/app/ServerProtocol.h: Another 2 constants[00:17:21] <fyysik> NathanW - big basic patch for mozilla/FF and emuxki driver...[00:17:22] *** znation has quit IRC[00:17:45] <NathanW> nice[00:17:52] <NathanW> what did you do to the emuxki driver?[00:19:17] <fyysik> NathanW - there was occasional but permanent crash at all my PIII systems at startup, with SB Live 5.1![00:19:21] <fyysik> found the reason[00:19:38] <fyysik> so now can continue work on VLC surround sound[00:20:09] *** Jixt has quit IRC[00:20:13] <NathanW> ah, ok[00:20:14] <NathanW> nice[00:26:08] <CIA-10> adioanca * current/src/servers/app/server/ (Layer.cpp Layer.h RootLayer.cpp RootLayer.h WinBorder.cpp): Oups. Layer::MoveBy/ResizeBy() escaped me. :-) The actions they used to perform are now executed only by RootLayer's thread.[00:26:28] <NathanW> It looks like neat things are happening with the app_server[00:26:37] *** badonawy has joined #haiku[00:28:12] *** FastJack has quit IRC[00:28:12] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[00:28:12] *** trasnam has quit IRC[00:28:12] *** badonaway has quit IRC[00:28:12] *** matricks has quit IRC[00:28:12] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[00:30:01] <fyysik> AGG, darkwyrm, stippi, adi...[00:30:12] *** matricks has joined #haiku[00:34:25] *** NathanW has quit IRC[00:38:11] *** FastJack has joined #haiku[00:38:11] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[00:38:48] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[00:43:31] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC[00:43:52] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[00:44:06] *** FastJack_ has joined #haiku[00:47:08] *** FastJack has quit IRC[00:47:08] *** alphakiller has quit IRC[00:50:10] *** thies__ is now known as thies[00:55:53] <[Beta]> alcohol doesnt suit me[00:55:55] <[Beta]> nn[00:56:23] <fyysik> really?[00:56:24] *** alphakiller has joined #haiku[00:56:24] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode +n #haiku[00:56:59] <fyysik> ik> i don't drink at all, but today it helped me to fix long-standing bug:)[00:57:45] <[Beta]> I drink because its a staff party[00:57:56] <[Beta]> and I.. dont mind making fool of oneeself[00:59:10] * fyysik hate corporate parties[00:59:27] <@mmu_man> hmm utimes() in header but not in libroot[01:00:48] * fyysik worked for russian company, though, not in Russia, and since that hates drinking in general[01:07:47] *** SpacemanAfri has quit IRC[01:09:15] <[Beta]> it was a christmas "thankyou" party[01:09:27] <[Beta]> omg, i'm not going to be able to live it down[01:09:47] <[Beta]> i'm an.. arse-friendly drunkward. thats not a good thing[01:10:23] <fyysik> arse-friendly or girl-friendly?[01:10:23] <@Dr_Evil> then take a sleep[01:10:57] <fyysik> Dr_Evil - did you notice my message about emuxki fixing:)?[01:11:12] <@mmu_man> zzz[01:11:16] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:11:21] <[Beta]> Marcus - i'm gonna try.. just spewed up the drink :([01:11:29] <[Beta]> nn mmu[01:16:34] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[01:37:40] *** mphipps has joined #haiku[01:37:50] <mphipps> hey all[01:39:24] <mphipps> never before have so many said so little. :-)[01:39:43] <fyysik> mphipps - yeah, good trend of last weeks[01:39:52] <fyysik> even more peopla than at beshare[01:40:07] <fyysik> but all silent:)[01:40:18] <mphipps> do you happen to remember who did the midi softsynth for BeOS?[01:40:20] <fyysik> what means - working:)[01:40:36] <fyysik> BEA ?[01:40:47] <fyysik> can look in archives[01:41:31] <mphipps> which archives? The BeDevTalk ones?[01:41:34] <fyysik> BAR[01:41:43] <fyysik> BAE[01:41:56] <mphipps> ?[01:41:59] <fyysik> moment[01:42:24] <fyysik> ik> i just investigated that problem week ago[01:42:38] <fyysik> maybe it is even in mozilla history[01:43:07] <fyysik> technology was licensed from Beatnik[01:43:24] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[01:43:44] <fyysik> if you mean that synth's included in Be distros[01:43:55] <fyysik> same technology is used in Java Midi[01:44:01] <mphipps> Really?[01:44:04] <fyysik> yup[01:44:15] <mphipps> Yeah - I thought that maybe they could be convinced to release the code...[01:44:21] <fyysik> so if you get Java midy synth files, you can use it under BeOS[01:44:59] <Methe> mphipps! hi ![01:45:12] <mphipps> Hi methe![01:47:54] <fyysik> mphipps - where do you live in US? which city?[01:48:01] <mphipps> rochester ny[01:48:09] <mphipps> about 4 hours from NYC[01:48:26] <fyysik> will visit NYC from march till end of april[01:48:36] <mphipps> I read that. :-D[01:48:45] <fyysik> so wondering if next WalterCon is planned[01:48:58] <mphipps> sort of, but it won't be that early.[01:49:09] <fyysik> as i miss BeGeistert :)[01:49:35] <mphipps> probably around the beginning of August.[01:49:39] <fyysik> ahh[01:51:44] <mphipps> Probably in Los Vegas, but that is not definite.[01:52:52] <fyysik> cheapest place in US?:)[01:53:07] <mphipps> Pretty close, I think.[01:53:26] <mphipps> Every airport has a pretty direct connection.[01:56:30] * fyysik wish to try AmTrack[01:57:11] <@Dr_Evil> hi mphipps[01:57:20] <@Dr_Evil> did you meet Bernd?[01:57:59] <mphipps> dr_evil - that would be this coming weekend.[01:58:19] <@Dr_Evil> didnt know he ws in usa that long[01:58:37] <mphipps> AFAIK, we won't be here until this coming Wed.[01:59:51] <frankps> night all[01:59:53] *** frankps has quit IRC[02:15:03] <CIA-10> beveloper * current/src/prefs/media/Jamfile:[02:15:03] *** Tenzin has quit IRC[02:15:03] <CIA-10> It's no longer needed to link Media preferences against[02:15:03] <CIA-10> the Haiku libmedia.so, the R5 and Zeta libmedia.so is[02:15:03] <CIA-10> good enough. 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This keeps the system responsive if[15:36:37] <CIA-10> the DMA engine fails, which is way better than a complete hang. Adding this[15:36:37] <CIA-10> because it's not impossible to create a situation that stalls DMA: for instance[15:36:37] <CIA-10> if a video app writes (way) outside it's allocated overlay buffers.[15:37:06] *** Penix has joined #haiku[15:37:06] *** nano has joined #haiku[15:38:17] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:39:51] *** xeD has joined #haiku[15:40:09] *** xeD has quit IRC[15:41:19] *** ProctonW has joined #haiku[15:41:26] *** mwilber has quit IRC[15:49:12] <matricks> hey.. an undate on the webpage[15:49:31] * MikeW kicks unizone[15:49:36] <MikeW> piece of junk eating 100% of my cpu[15:49:50] <MikeW> or mabye that should be QT piece of junk eating 100% of my cpu?[15:52:41] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[15:55:58] *** hallin has joined #haiku[15:59:17] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[15:59:31] *** MikeW has quit IRC[16:00:28] *** Begasus has quit IRC[16:07:48] *** tqh has quit IRC[16:11:16] *** mmadia has quit IRC[16:20:03] *** z3r0_one has joined #haiku[16:27:00] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[16:34:29] *** jepel_tailweaver has joined #haiku[16:37:39] *** frankps has quit IRC[16:38:04] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[16:38:27] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[16:39:27] <CIA-10> darkwyrm * current/src/servers/app/server/ (RootLayer.cpp ServerWindow.cpp ViewDriver.cpp):[16:39:27] <CIA-10> messaging fixes to RootLayer and ViewDriver[16:39:27] <CIA-10> minor tweaks to ServerWindow[16:43:21] *** hallin has quit IRC[16:47:06] <CIA-10> mwilber * current/src/kits/interface/Button.cpp: Fixed focus line drawing to draw the white underline and to not draw the focus line if the window containing the button is not active.[16:50:46] *** Konrad77 has quit IRC[17:01:27] *** thek has joined #haiku[17:01:52] *** sigmund has joined #haiku[17:01:56] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[17:04:10] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[17:04:10] *** fyysik has quit IRC[17:04:10] *** gingerninja has quit IRC[17:04:10] *** CIA-10 has quit IRC[17:04:10] *** Procton has quit IRC[17:04:10] *** thek is 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(log message trimmed)[20:00:17] <CIA-8> Since last checkin version had no description:[20:00:17] <CIA-8> Huge amounts more debug output available[20:00:17] <CIA-8> Resolved several timing issues[20:00:17] <CIA-8> Fixed a major problem with sending mouse messages to the server when emulating the input server[20:00:17] <CIA-8> There are still stability issues with initial startup[20:00:19] <CIA-8> Still some drawing problems[20:04:58] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[20:05:10] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[20:05:10] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[20:05:10] *** geist has quit IRC[20:05:10] *** BeMonni has quit IRC[20:05:35] *** geist has joined #haiku[20:05:35] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:05:35] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[20:05:35] *** BeMonni has joined #haiku[20:05:35] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o geist[20:07:37] *** sys2 has quit IRC[20:09:22] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[20:12:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:13:33] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[20:13:33] *** BeMonni 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quit IRC[20:48:22] *** geist has quit IRC[20:48:22] *** GNUStep_Me has quit IRC[20:48:38] <jepel_tailweaver> fyysik: all of 50 people can't be bots, can they?[20:48:39] *** geist has joined #haiku[20:48:39] *** lymon has joined #haiku[20:48:39] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:48:39] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[20:48:39] *** BeMonni has joined #haiku[20:48:39] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o geist[20:50:15] <tqh> beep beep[20:51:12] <ShackaN> hi geist[20:51:29] <jepel_tailweaver> people are talking! amazing[20:51:50] <ShackaN> geist, do you know any books about os design ? ( apart from the tanenbaum )[20:54:09] *** BeMonni has quit IRC[20:54:09] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[20:54:09] *** lymon has quit IRC[20:54:09] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[20:54:09] *** geist has quit IRC[20:54:42] <CIA-8> bonefish * current/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)[20:54:42] <CIA-8> Added a service that will be responsible for sending messages from kernel[20:54:42] <CIA-8> to userland applications. A userland server (probably the registrar) will[20:54:42] <CIA-8> register as the server responsible for delivering the messages. The[20:54:42] <CIA-8> messages are passed to it via shared memory.[20:54:43] <CIA-8> The advantage over sending the messages directly will be, that they won't[20:54:45] <CIA-8> need to be dropped, if the receiver port is temporarily full.[20:55:07] <CIA-8> bonefish * current/src/kernel/Jamfile: Added the messaging service.[20:56:40] <CIA-8> bonefish * current/src/kernel/core/util/ (Jamfile kernel_cpp.cpp): Prevent a linker error. It complains about multiple definitions of nothrow.[20:58:17] *** lymon has joined #haiku[20:58:17] *** BeMonni has joined #haiku[20:58:19] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:58:57] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[21:03:10] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:08:34] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[21:08:53] *** geist has joined #haiku[21:22:35] *** m_eiman is now known as m_afk[21:22:37] *** Hoern2 has joined #haiku[21:29:35] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[21:31:07] *** Hoern has quit IRC[21:31:08] *** Hoern2 is now known as Hoern[21:31:19] *** hallin has joined #haiku[21:32:31] <tic> tja hallin[21:32:47] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[21:32:51] <tic> Oh, someone's being l33t... ;)[21:33:32] <ShackaN> what?[21:33:42] <tic> ctcp version hallin..[21:33:45] <geist> I'm 133t[21:33:51] <geist> I'm always 133t[21:33:51] <tic> yeah, you're l33t too, geist.[21:33:54] <geist> dont forget it[21:33:58] <ShackaN> geist! of course you are![21:34:01] * tic pets geist[21:34:09] * geist purrs[21:34:12] <ShackaN> lol[21:34:14] <ShackaN> geist, do you know any books about os design ? ( apart from the tanenbaum )[21:34:38] <geist> yeah, lets see[21:34:42] <geist> I have one by stallings[21:34:51] <geist> an 23 20:34:51 <geist> a bit more generic than the tanenbaum one[21:35:02] <geist> and I have a ton that cover a particular os[21:35:03] <hallin> hej tic[21:35:15] <geist> ie, the inside win2k book, the solaris kernel internals book, the new linux internals book[21:35:17] <ShackaN> uhm, ok[21:35:33] <ShackaN> I got the inside w2k already, it's awesome[21:35:34] <ShackaN> :)[21:35:53] <dipp> hallin: ? :)[21:36:00] <hallin> tic: I might change that message :)[21:36:05] <geist> the stallings book is called "operating systems: internals and design principles" by william stallings[21:36:10] <hallin> dipp: ? :D[21:36:20] <dipp> har inte sett dig här innan :D[21:36:25] <geist> it's not that great, but its worth reading[21:36:25] <dipp> blev förvånad ;)[21:36:29] <ShackaN> geist, yeah, luckily I could find it on p2p and it's on its way already :)[21:36:30] <geist> if you can find it at a library or something[21:36:38] <ShackaN> can't find the others, though... :([21:37:08] <geist> for fs stuff I'd recommend reading dbg's bfs book[21:37:16] <geist> whihc you can get all over the place[21:37:32] <ShackaN> geist, can't find such books in our libraries.. I might buy them on amazon but they're way expensive[21:37:36] <geist> it tells you basically how bfs and the beos fs layer works, which is a nice intro to those kinds of things[21:37:43] <ShackaN> uh niice[21:38:10] <ShackaN> "all over the place" means it's public ?[21:38:28] <geist> yeah, it's out of print and I think he had the pdf up on his website. lemme see if I can find it real quick[21:39:11] <ShackaN> I love google :)[21:39:13] <ShackaN> http://www.nobius.org/~dbg/practical-file-system-design.pdf[21:39:20] <ShackaN> is that it ?[21:39:26] <geist> yeah that one[21:39:51] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[21:40:00] <ShackaN> ok man, thanks[21:40:46] <ShackaN> I wish next month I'll have some spare time to read something and start this posix microkernel I've so long wanted to write[21:41:28] <ShackaN> I know I won't get anything useful, but I hope to learn something at least[21:41:50] <lymon> people, can i build haiku/src/kernel locally ?[21:42:50] <ShackaN> lymon, yes, (theoretically at least, since compilation always gave me troubles here on linux :)[21:43:15] <lymon> i know[21:44:02] *** transam117 has joined #haiku[21:44:02] <lymon> my question is how to resolve "don't know how to make ... " on autogenerated files: syscall_dispatcher.h syscall_numbers.h syscalls.S.inc[21:45:00] <lymon> from the sources root (whole tree) kernel is successfully builds up[21:45:10] <dr_evil> lymon compile jam from current/src/tools/jam and use that one[21:45:12] <ShackaN> I wish I knew, but I had to shred my local copy of the haiku cvs since I had no more space space on my hd :( sorry[21:47:11] *** Hoern has quit IRC[21:47:50] <lymon> dr_evil: great !! it works. but what the diff from ori jam ang custom from tools ?[21:48:13] <ShackaN> doctor, can I build haiku on my gcc 3.3.5 ?[21:48:47] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:49:24] <lymon> shackan, no you need beos customized gnupro, which is the latests 2.95.3[21:49:50] <lymon> shackan, you can just wait[21:50:00] <ShackaN> wait for what ?[21:50:14] <lymon> for new gnupro[21:50:44] <ShackaN> I'll wait then..[21:51:50] <lymon> shackan, anyway you will to have two versions of gnupro =)[21:53:00] <lymon> on> on linux ...[21:53:01] <CIA-8> rudolfc * current/src/add-ons/accelerants/nvidia/engine/nv_acc_dma.c: added fill_rect and fill_span functions (same). Not yet exported, not yet working either..[21:53:12] <lymon> or may be you shoul to try BeOS =)[21:53:50] <lymon> why you are building beos under linux ?[21:53:54] * fyysik uses two versions of gnupro in BeOS. 2.9 is much faster in compilation, 2.953 - just better[21:55:35] <tic> -can- you even build beos under linux?[21:56:06] <lymon> tic: he is trying =)[21:57:51] <CIA-8> rudolfc * current/headers/private/graphics/nvidia/nv_acc.h: added acc function defines for DMA, for fill_rect.[21:59:06] *** VirtualDarKness has joined #haiku[22:02:08] *** VirtualDarKness has left #haiku[22:02:23] <lymon> people, i have one more question, give me the trick to build /apps/bin/vim =)[22:02:33] *** VirtualDarKness has joined #haiku[22:06:07] *** VirtualDarKness has quit IRC[22:06:13] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:06:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[22:06:18] *** VirtualDarKness has joined #haiku[22:06:31] <DaaT> bork mmu_man[22:07:05] <@mmu_man> plop[22:08:46] <hallin> [Beta]: sorry for that message[22:09:06] <[Beta]> lol[22:09:36] <[Beta]> no need to apologise - just saw tics message & was interested :)[22:09:48] <hallin> changed now however[22:11:04] <[Beta]> Why hide client version ?[22:13:00] <hallin> well, because people tries to check it all the time[22:13:16] <hallin> in> i run irssi, for your knowledge :D[22:15:38] <[Beta]> not a bad client, though never used it myself.[22:15:57] *** thaflo has joined #haiku[22:19:35] * ShackaN is curious..[22:22:37] <tic> wonder if the DMA stuff in the nVidia driver works on a NV36 too[22:25:32] *** m_afk is now known as m_eiman[22:27:46] <dr_evil> fyysik I put updated audio mixer and media preferences on bebits[22:27:50] *** oco has quit IRC[22:31:04] <dipp> hnmm geist is your name Travis?[22:31:35] <geist> yes[22:32:07] <dipp> http://galaxy.osnews.com/comment.php?blog_id=165 Eugenia mentioned someone named Travis and the description sounded familiar :)[22:33:38] <lymon> dipp: look at NewOS.sf.net (Travis kernel) the Haiku is based on[22:34:29] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:35:10] <dipp> yeah I figured that afterwards[22:38:26] <lymon> people is my try to build open-beos/current/src/apps/bin/vim make sense ?[22:38:50] <fyysik> thanks for info dr_evil. will try it. still waiting for Korli to merge my emuxki fixes with CVS:)[22:39:51] <fyysik> dr_evil - but still one question remains[22:40:31] <fyysik> why i can changes output channel for soundcard if accessing haiku media preferences directly, but not from Deskbar volume replicant[22:41:09] <fyysik> and what was major bug fixed in mixer, is it in readme?[22:41:55] <dr_evil> don't know, and the major bug was a crash with 8 channel files, it's not in the readme[22:42:14] <fyysik> yeah, noticed that crash:)[22:42:53] <fyysik> though, some very early occasional mixer didn't crash when i implemented surround sound in VLC very first time[22:43:15] *** mmadia has quit IRC[22:47:46] <fyysik> installed, seems no problem yet[22:49:04] *** tic has quit IRC[22:49:39] *** tic has joined #haiku[22:50:05] <dr_evil> fyysik does media preferences report version 0.4 for the mixer?[22:50:52] <fyysik> yes, it do[22:51:01] <dr_evil> ok[22:52:05] <fyysik> wish to get multichannel aac music, to test if SoundPlaye really plays it multichannel with new decoder[22:52:16] *** illissius is now known as illissius[sleep][22:53:57] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:54:22] *** Begasus has quit IRC[22:58:05] *** thaflo has quit IRC[22:58:47] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku[22:59:19] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[23:00:15] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC[23:02:52] <fyysik> dr_evil - but maybe you know which app "sends" that volume replicant to deskbar?[23:05:45] <dr_evil> "desklink"[23:05:58] <dr_evil> we have a much better replacement in haiku tree, btw[23:06:01] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[23:06:12] <fyysik> will try to complie it[23:06:51] <dr_evil> "jam desklink" should do[23:07:04] <dr_evil> you need to replace the system file, and restart Deskbar[23:07:31] <fyysik> yeah, configuring root first[23:07:53] <fyysik> usually i just created *proj if needed some haiku component[23:10:34] <fyysik> ok. seems working[23:10:48] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[23:11:07] *** VirtualDarKness has quit IRC[23:18:44] *** m_eiman has quit IRC[23:24:41] *** frankps has joined #haiku[23:25:09] *** Lebuzzer has quit IRC[23:27:09] *** jonaskirilla has joined #haiku[23:32:04] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:37:56] *** jonaskirilla has quit IRC[23:38:50] <CIA-8> beveloper * current/src/add-ons/media/media-add-ons/mixer/AudioMixer.cpp: Bumped release number for bebits release, a few bugfixes had been done since release 0.2, including the name change from OpenBeOS to Haiku.[23:39:13] *** mwilber has joined #haiku[23:39:24] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[23:40:32] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:41:44] <CIA-8> mwilber * current/src/kits/interface/Button.cpp: Fixed "HButton" typos[23:41:46] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[23:41:52] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:43:07] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[23:43:13] *** ShackaN has quit IRC[23:44:14] *** gingerninja has joined #haiku[23:45:32] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has joined #haiku[23:46:40] *** slaad has joined #haiku[23:46:42] *** frankps has quit IRC[23:48:40] <lymon> people can i boot Haiku from my working R5 partition or better create dedicated ?[23:49:24] <Methe> whether u plug some Haiku parts into your R5[23:49:28] *** Korli has joined #haiku[23:49:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[23:49:34] <Methe> whether u create a partition to boot from kernel[23:49:46] <Methe> Haiku kernel[23:52:22] <lymon> i want to boot from kernel no any parts are interesting[23:52:31] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:52:35] <Methe> if u want to boot from kernel[23:52:42] <Methe> just know that by now it's not really usable[23:53:01] <Methe> you can do it. But you won't even have graphics stuffs[23:53:01] <lymon> the dmsg state is usable for me[23:53:09] <lymon> i know it[23:53:21] <Methe> ok[23:53:36] <Methe> But I'm not even sure of it's usability there[23:53:44] <Methe> anyway, nothing is better than a try[23:53:45] <Methe> :)[23:54:00] <lymon> i can write code and see kernel messages, its enough[23:54:29] <Methe> k[23:54:32] <Methe> enjoy then[23:56:19] <agentmumu> lymon: you need a dedicated partition[23:56:20] <lymon> i'm interesting if it possible to load kernel from existing partition (in real not in bochs)[23:56:34] <agentmumu> just create a new bfs partition[23:56:46] <agentmumu> mount it[23:56:52] <lymon> agentmumu: ok i see[23:56:53] <agentmumu> and run makehdimage /mountpoint[23:58:32] *** mwilber has quit IRC[23:59:04] <fyysik> Korli - long time no see. Waiting for you second day[23:59:26] <dr_evil> hi Korli