January 3, 2005 
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January 3, 2005 [00:07:10] *** Begasus has quit IRC[00:10:19] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[00:11:10] *** thaflo has quit IRC[00:11:27] *** Leo42 has quit IRC[00:13:38] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[00:16:46] *** fyysik has quit IRC[00:17:26] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[00:19:35] *** Methe has quit IRC[00:20:57] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[00:28:48] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/ (12 files in 2 dirs):[00:28:48] <CIA-5> Added a simple RTF translator.[00:28:48] <CIA-5> It only supports colors and bold fonts beside plain ASCII text, but it's a[00:28:48] <CIA-5> start.[00:28:48] <CIA-5> The RTF* class hierarchy should get a cleanup, though (and will soon).[00:28:49] <CIA-5> You'll need Haiku's StyledEdit to make use of this translator.[00:31:11] <mumu25> he's back on track[00:32:16] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:32:17] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[00:36:21] *** TLF has joined #haiku[00:38:17] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[00:39:25] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:57:17] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[00:57:17] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[00:57:27] <fyysik> !seen korli[00:57:31] <fyysik> hmm[00:59:01] * fyysik found that Driver section in BeBook is too laconic[00:59:37] <slaad> Heh.[01:04:53] *** Koki has quit IRC[01:09:59] *** BGA has joined #haiku[01:09:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[01:10:35] <dr_evil> hello BGA[01:10:55] <@BGA> Hey"[01:11:02] * BGA is back from vacations.[01:11:26] <[Beta]> hey BGA.[01:12:03] <dr_evil> great, what did you do, where did you stay?[01:13:05] *** MikeW has quit IRC[01:13:12] <dr_evil> an 03 00:13:12 <dr_evil> a lot happened, http://haiku-os.org/ http://mad-scientist-entertainment.org/ and http://beunited.org/ are all offline ;)[01:16:08] <@BGA> dr_evil: I went with 7 friends to my father's place... I took more than 1000 pictures![01:16:15] <@BGA> Should put them online soon. :)[01:16:23] <@BGA> It was great and I even got a new gf. ;)[01:16:56] <fyysik> hm. nice idea. New Year with New gf![01:18:27] * dr_evil has an appointment at the eye specialist at 10:15, and it's already 1:20[01:19:18] <dr_evil> vision (not the IRC app) is slowly improving[01:24:12] <ShackaN> improving?[01:24:31] <dr_evil> yes[01:24:37] <ShackaN> if this is the case, why are you visiting a specialist?[01:24:47] <dr_evil> after PRK[01:25:02] <ShackaN> I thought people call the doctor when things start to go bad..[01:25:05] <ShackaN> PRK ?[01:25:09] <dr_evil> because of PRK side effets[01:25:22] <dr_evil> ask google[01:25:26] <ShackaN> what's that ?[01:25:28] <ShackaN> mm, ok[01:25:44] <ShackaN> is it maybe laser eye surgery ?[01:26:11] <ShackaN> uh, yeah, google confirmes[01:26:54] *** liquidboy has joined #haiku[01:27:01] <ShackaN> dr_evil, does it hurt ?[01:27:25] <[Beta]> sounds like it should[01:27:38] <ShackaN> that's why I'm asking..[01:27:40] <[Beta]> polishing your cornea[01:27:48] <ShackaN> I do know[01:27:50] <[Beta]> maybe we can call him riddick?[01:27:57] <ShackaN> LOOOOL[01:28:32] <[Beta]> sadly i'm needing some work on my left eye, its losing focus[01:28:49] <dr_evil> oh yes it hurts very much on the first day[01:28:50] <ShackaN> sadly I'm myope on both eyes :P[01:29:46] <ShackaN> dr_evil, can i ask you why did you undergo eye surgery ?[01:30:05] <dr_evil> wanted to finally get rid of glasses[01:31:04] *** liquidboy has quit IRC[01:34:28] <ShackaN> me too, but I'm afraid of lasers[01:36:32] <DaaT> was going to have that surgery last year but ended up not doing it, maybe this year[01:36:55] <DaaT> last year=2003, sorry[01:38:34] *** fyysik has quit IRC[01:40:01] <dr_evil> good info http://www.eyemdlink.com/EyeProcedure.asp?EyeProcedureID=7[01:41:55] <DaaT> so lasik is better than prk it seems[01:44:30] <dr_evil> my cornea was too thin for Lasik[01:45:05] <dr_evil> with Lasik they make a cut into the cornea, wich has it's own risk and may destabilize the eye[01:46:01] <DaaT> true true[01:46:02] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[01:47:11] <dr_evil> this Lasik "flap" also never really adnates again, it's basically adhesion with a few cells that merge. can be opened agaon without cutting after more than 2 years[01:47:40] <dr_evil> so PRK isn't that bad, as PRK has no "flap" :)[01:48:12] <DaaT> mmmmmmmmm... and more safe too it seems, though it has the risk of scarring[01:48:18] <DaaT> slower recuperation though[01:48:40] <DaaT> there's never a perfect method... darn[01:54:57] *** fyysik has quit IRC[01:57:00] *** kma has quit IRC[01:57:05] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[01:59:41] <slaad> See people, this is why Gattaca was a good idea ;)[02:01:43] <dr_evil> lol[02:01:44] <[Beta]> lol[02:08:25] *** TLF has quit IRC[02:10:50] <slaad> Well, I mean, it wouldn't solve anything for us poor sods, but you know...[02:12:42] *** DaaT has quit IRC[02:17:25] <[Beta]> it'd be a good thing for our children..[02:21:43] <dr_evil> no, for some other children, certainly not for ours[02:27:09] * dr_evil added some stuff to his DVB-T driver, but right now the interrupt handler s crashing and needs work[02:27:28] <dr_evil> and tuning doesn't seem to work, too[02:37:02] <dr_evil> hmm, tuning, reminds me of "Dark City", great movie[02:38:05] <mmadia> agreed dr_evil :][02:40:05] *** mene has joined #haiku[02:50:17] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:52:42] <dr_evil> First, there was darkness. Then came the Strangers.[02:53:48] *** BGA has quit IRC[03:02:13] *** AndrewBachmann has joined #haiku[03:02:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o AndrewBachmann[03:03:41] <@AndrewBachmann> anybody here got a recent beos laptop - centrino chipset?[03:03:48] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h):[03:03:48] <CIA-5> Refactored the code: put everything in the RTF namespace, separated group[03:03:48] <CIA-5> functions from the former RTFElement (now RTF::Element).[03:03:48] <CIA-5> Put the parsing basics into a separate class RTF::Parser (used to be in[03:03:48] <CIA-5> the static RTFHeader::Parse()).[03:03:48] <CIA-5> RTF::Header is now always correctly set to RTF::TEXT_DESTINATION.[03:03:50] <CIA-5> Some minor other related changes.[03:04:09] <@AndrewBachmann> cool[03:04:57] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTFTranslator.cpp RTFTranslator.h convert.cpp convert.h): Mostly adapted to the refactored RTF classes hierarchy.[03:05:12] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann I think that stippy(ie?) has a centrino[03:05:15] *** ablyss has quit IRC[03:05:25] <dr_evil> hello AndrewBachmann![03:05:33] <@AndrewBachmann> hello happy new year dr_evil[03:05:53] <dr_evil> I made much progress on my DVB-T driver today, however, the interrupt handler crashes, and it still doesn't tune channels[03:06:13] <dr_evil> happy new near for you, too[03:06:33] <@AndrewBachmann> I found a cool laptop but... vesa? :-([03:06:42] <@AndrewBachmann> it's the intel extreme graphics 2[03:06:54] <@AndrewBachmann> 855GME chipset[03:07:02] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[03:10:45] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann did you already ask voidref or mmu_man if that will be supported by YT?[03:11:18] <@AndrewBachmann> voidref said "it will probably work" but it didn't seem to go with the pro boot CD[03:11:29] <@AndrewBachmann> I don't have a zeta install[03:11:34] <@AndrewBachmann> was planning to try phos[03:14:01] <dr_evil> AndrewBachmann the 855G graphics chipset is completely different from the 810 and 815 graphics chipset[03:14:22] <dr_evil> the board itself may work, vith vesa graphics[03:14:41] <dr_evil> and I can give you the chipset docu for the graphics chipset[03:15:45] <dr_evil> I don't know if zeta has support for that graphics chipset, but YT should not[03:15:50] <dr_evil> shoud NOW[03:15:52] <dr_evil> KNOW[03:15:55] <dr_evil> damn[03:16:09] <dr_evil> YT should know this[03:16:15] <dr_evil> going to sleep now[03:17:36] <@AndrewBachmann> ok thanks[03:17:51] <@AndrewBachmann> it's unfortunate that I don't have much time to experiment[03:18:04] <dr_evil> snooze(216E8) now or soemthing like that...[03:18:42] <dr_evil> tomorrow is a business day, call them ;)[03:19:59] *** Zenton has quit IRC[03:21:22] <dr_evil> bye...[03:21:32] <@AndrewBachmann> g'night[03:29:09] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[03:38:17] *** fyysik has quit IRC[04:14:23] *** brennanOS has joined #haiku[04:17:45] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[04:20:12] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[04:20:12] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[04:42:23] *** voidref has quit IRC[04:43:12] *** ShackaN has quit IRC[04:48:05] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[04:49:17] *** NathanW has quit IRC[04:51:50] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[05:59:45] *** ConneX- has quit IRC[06:22:41] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[06:33:21] *** kma has joined #haiku[06:43:37] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[06:48:37] *** brennanOS has quit IRC[06:52:43] *** mene has quit IRC[07:25:52] *** ConneX has quit IRC[07:59:53] *** Koki has joined #haiku[08:26:20] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[08:48:27] *** lizdeika has quit IRC[08:50:22] *** Koki has quit IRC[08:50:34] *** Koki has joined #haiku[08:50:45] *** Koki has quit IRC[08:52:50] *** Koki has joined #haiku[09:01:23] *** kma has quit IRC[09:02:32] *** lizdeika has joined #haiku[09:25:48] *** emwe has joined #haiku[09:29:06] *** sl44d has joined #haiku[09:33:31] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h): (log message trimmed)[09:33:31] <CIA-5> The parser now uses a BBufferIO stream to speed things up.[09:33:31] <CIA-5> Text::Parse() now converts bigger chunks at once.[09:33:31] <CIA-5> Default RTF element destination is visible in text now, only known[09:33:31] <CIA-5> other destinations are marked that way (using a lookup table).[09:33:32] <CIA-5> Added virtual method IsDefinitionDelimiter() to Element to make[09:33:34] <CIA-5> definition iterating nicer.[09:34:36] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/RTFTranslator.h: We're not really yet version 1.0.0 :)[09:39:00] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/convert.cpp:[09:39:00] <CIA-5> Extended support of RTF features. Ie. the conversion/group context is now[09:39:00] <CIA-5> maintained, and should work more or less correctly.[09:39:00] <CIA-5> Monospaced fonts can now be chosen (the font table is partially parsed),[09:39:00] <CIA-5> italics works, and many other things.[09:43:22] *** slaad has quit IRC[09:43:23] *** sl44d is now known as slaad[09:55:09] *** Koki has quit IRC[10:00:02] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[10:44:23] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[10:46:38] *** markjan has left #haiku[10:52:51] *** emwe has quit IRC[11:00:23] *** slaad has quit IRC[11:05:03] *** BGA has joined #haiku[11:05:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[11:08:10] *** voidref has joined #haiku[11:08:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref[11:11:00] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/ (RTF.cpp RTF.h):[11:11:00] <CIA-5> Added a simple RTF::Worker class that can be subclassed in order to work[11:11:00] <CIA-5> with the RTF document step by step.[11:13:45] <CIA-5> axeld * current/src/add-ons/translators/rtftranslator/convert.cpp:[11:13:45] <CIA-5> No longer uses the RTF::Iterator to process the document; it now subclasses[11:13:45] <CIA-5> the RTF::Worker for this task (TextOutput).[11:13:45] <CIA-5> Cleaned the sources a bit, TextOutput now also contains the functionality[11:13:45] <CIA-5> of the former AppServerConnection class.[11:34:55] *** [Beta] has quit IRC[12:24:17] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[12:24:34] *** fyysik has quit IRC[12:27:09] *** lizdeika has quit IRC[12:28:19] *** lizdeika has joined #haiku[12:34:27] *** JBurton has joined #haiku[12:34:29] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuBar.cpp): Now menuitems are highlighted correctly, and submenus open, at least.[12:34:32] <JBurton> hi[12:34:44] <[Beta]> hey.[12:36:56] <JBurton> heya [Beta][12:41:37] *** Methe has joined #haiku[12:42:37] <Fanskapet> woho now i got my new laptop :)[12:42:45] <Fanskapet> maybe i should try BeOS on it now :)[12:45:20] * Methe jumps on mahlzeit's shoulders, grabs his head with his feets, jumps back and smashes his head on the ground. Tekken style[12:45:54] <Fanskapet> :)[12:45:55] * mahlzeit is looking at pictures of jessica biel[12:46:17] <Methe> who is she ?[12:46:33] <Methe> Fanskapet: go check @ beOs laptops website if supported[12:46:48] <Fanskapet> mine isn't listed there[12:46:53] <Fanskapet> Acer Ferrari 3200[12:47:45] <Master199> biel ? texas chainsaw massacre *g* ?[12:47:51] <@mahlzeit> yep[12:47:59] <Master199> ahhh , hehe[12:48:01] <Methe> url ? :D[12:48:05] <[Beta]> shes cute[12:48:23] <Fanskapet> hehe.. there's a sound of a ferrari on a race that races by when starting windows :)[12:48:24] <Fanskapet> lame :)[12:48:38] <Master199> lol :-D[12:48:49] <Fanskapet> but the machine seems to be real nice.[12:49:08] <Fanskapet> and it sure looks good :)[12:49:34] <Fanskapet> i guess that i will have to install atleast a 64bit linux on it :)[12:50:04] <Master199> laptop with an AMD64 ?[12:50:04] *** ShackaN has joined #haiku[12:50:11] <Fanskapet> Master199, yep[12:50:18] <Master199> cool[12:51:16] <Fanskapet> Master199, http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=658[12:51:54] <@mahlzeit> Methe: http://celeb-babes.blogspot.com/2004/12/jessica-biel.html[12:51:59] <@mahlzeit> :-)[12:52:43] <Methe> huhu[12:52:48] <Methe> but so american-ish[12:52:56] <Methe> (and so lame pic)[12:53:04] <Fanskapet> but i sure hope that i did the right thing buying this.... i mostly bought it for the radeon 9700.. im pretty clueless about how the preformance in laptop gfx card is.[12:53:21] <Fanskapet> but this card should be good from what i've seen on the internet..[12:53:29] <Master199> hmm K8T800 chipset[12:53:54] <Fanskapet> is it bad or?[12:54:52] <Master199> nope the chipset is okay, but wasnt there problems with beos ?[12:55:56] <Fanskapet> dunno[12:59:55] <Fanskapet> but i will probably find out when i try to boot Be :)[13:00:28] <Fanskapet> hmm.. but now i need to find out a way to creat bootable cd's with partitionmagic[13:00:37] <Fanskapet> never done this.... can't be that difficult with nero though :)[13:00:42] <Fanskapet> point 'n click :)[13:04:16] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku[13:10:20] <@mahlzeit> bah, i didn't win the lottery :-([13:12:38] *** illissius_ has joined #haiku[13:12:42] <Begasus> same here mahlzeit :([13:12:42] <JBurton> mahlzeit aaah bad[13:12:48] <JBurton> well I didn't even play[13:12:59] <@mahlzeit> actually i won 15 euros, but i wanted 20 million![13:13:18] <Methe> :)[13:13:22] <Methe> actually[13:13:25] <Methe> with a friend[13:13:37] <Methe> we stated that u need 4millions Euros[13:13:41] <Methe> to live like a prince[13:13:43] <Methe> and your kid[13:13:46] <Methe> and kid of your kid[13:13:54] <Methe> until next economical break[13:14:02] <Methe> take 4millions[13:14:03] <JBurton> eheh[13:14:05] <Methe> put them in bank[13:14:12] <Methe> an 03 12:14:12 <Methe> an account blocked[13:14:17] <Methe> meaning u can't touch anything of it[13:14:24] <JBurton> so you live just with interests[13:14:29] <Methe> exactly[13:14:30] <Methe> u get[13:14:36] <Methe> if I remember our calcul correctly[13:14:39] <@mahlzeit> my kids can go work for their own damn money![13:15:02] <Methe> sthing like 15000Euros per month[13:15:06] <Methe> with only inbterest[13:17:02] <JBurton> hmmm not bad Methe[13:17:03] <JBurton> mahlzeit eheheh[13:17:09] <JBurton> right :)[13:18:10] <Methe> like Bill Gates[13:18:15] <Methe> he> he said his kid wouldnt get much[13:18:20] <Methe> he> he has to work 4 it[13:18:36] <Methe> but he's at least sure to never end up on the street[13:19:10] <@mahlzeit> unless haiku becomes successful :-)[13:20:36] <[Beta]> or Uuu :p[13:20:42] *** illissius[sleep] has quit IRC[13:21:16] <Methe> mahlzeit: yeah but even if it does, I guess with the money Bill has, his son will have the time to end it's life before ruining his dad[13:21:31] <@mahlzeit> money can go quickly[13:22:18] <@mahlzeit> usually kids of millionaires spend all the parent's money :-)[13:24:00] *** lemon has joined #haiku[13:24:03] <lemon> hello[13:24:19] <@mahlzeit> hi lemon[13:24:30] <lemon> is there any way to sync with haiku sources and build it ?[13:24:30] <Methe> hello lemon[13:24:38] <Methe> well mahlzeit tehre's millionaires and there's bill gates[13:24:52] <@mahlzeit> http://home.tiscali.nl/mahlzeit/gettingstarted.html <-- look here lemon[13:25:29] <Methe> mahlzeit@I binded it[13:25:33] <@mahlzeit> Methe: people of bill gates's level have fallen too, but i agree that he isn't the average millionaire ;-)[13:26:57] <lemon> how is haiku openbeos and newos kernels are related ?[13:28:02] <Methe> openbeos equal haiku[13:28:10] <Methe> openbeos is old Haiku's name[13:28:21] <Methe> and Haiku's kernel is forked from newOS kernel[13:28:32] <Methe> was forked 1year ago[13:28:40] *** dos4 has joined #haiku[13:28:40] <Methe> am I right mahlzeit about the date ?[13:28:53] <@mahlzeit> it> i think it's longer ago[13:30:10] <JBurton> yeah[13:30:11] <lemon> does openbeos managment give attention to haiku/ppc ?[13:30:19] <JBurton> like 2 and a half years ago[13:30:32] <JBurton> or 2[13:30:36] <[Beta]> 2:30:36 <[Beta]> 2 years, 5 months[13:30:37] <JBurton> anyway, more than 1[13:30:38] <JBurton> :P[13:30:54] <[Beta]> hmm - who is ejakowatz ?[13:31:16] <dos4> he doesn't do much [Beta][13:31:26] <dos4> why do you ask?[13:31:38] <JBurton> he's Erik Jaesler[13:31:45] <[Beta]> just names in the cvs logs that I dont reckonize.[13:31:55] <JBurton> he does no longer work on haiku[13:32:10] <[Beta]> shame[13:32:41] <JBurton> dos4 [Beta]'s just a PalmSource lawyer. He's writing down the names of all haiku's contributors to sue them[13:32:57] <[Beta]> lol, and i've got a good case too![13:33:53] <JBurton> :=)[13:34:04] <[Beta]> for r1, and on, I presume we'll have a HaikuBook of our own?[13:35:08] <JBurton> [Beta] hmmm can't remember the plan[13:35:11] <JBurton> I guess, though[13:35:24] <JBurton> I'm sure mahlzeit knows better[13:35:33] * [Beta] pokes mahlzeit[13:35:45] <@mahlzeit> hmm[13:35:56] * Methe pokes [Beta] for poking mahlzeit[13:36:26] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[13:36:43] <[Beta]> its a very cool year to be in.[13:36:56] <[Beta]> MMV[13:37:35] <[Beta]> i'm just interesting in QAing the book - thats all[13:37:50] <@mahlzeit> we discussed the haikubook several times[13:38:07] <Teknomancer> haikubook .. is that haiku's BeBook API ?[13:38:28] <@mahlzeit> looking through my email archives, it seems we decided to rewrite the bebook for r1[13:39:02] <@mahlzeit> Teknomancer: no, it's the bebook but rewritten for haiku[13:39:05] <[Beta]> well, the public api wont change Teknomancer. just get extended. at least for r1[13:39:26] <Teknomancer> ok[13:39:32] <Teknomancer> if it wont change[13:39:37] <Teknomancer> why does it need to be rewritten ?[13:39:44] <[Beta]> copyright I guess[13:39:48] <@mahlzeit> because we don't own the copyright[13:39:51] <[Beta]> plus its hideous html[13:39:55] * [Beta] cackles[13:40:20] <@mahlzeit> and because we need our own docs for r2 anyway, so r1 is a good foundation there too[13:40:37] *** BGA has quit IRC[13:40:56] <Methe> that's tricky[13:41:05] <Methe> to rewrite something without copying[13:41:11] <Methe> because bebook is c00lto read so[13:41:11] <Teknomancer> BeBook is superb HTML[13:41:12] <lemon> people, i see that kernel for now is not replaceable[13:41:16] <[Beta]> very, because alot of it they covered.. plagarism is going to be :s[13:41:38] <[Beta]> no, it really isnt Tekno. not semantic at all.[13:42:15] <Methe> who is doing haikuBook atm ??[13:42:26] <@mahlzeit> jeff biss[13:42:33] <@mahlzeit> but he's slowly getting started[13:42:34] <Methe> :o[13:42:41] <Methe> ah k[13:42:45] <[Beta]> Teknomancer: <br>[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <FONT face=helvetica><b>Allocation:</b></font> Constructor only[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <br>[13:42:45] <[Beta]> <FONT face=helvetica><b>Summary:</b></font> [13:42:45] <[Beta]> <A HREF="NetAddress.summary.html"><i>more...</i></A>[13:42:50] * [Beta] hurls[13:43:03] <Teknomancer> bah, its flawless to read.[13:43:08] <Methe> what's the point [Beta] ?[13:43:08] <[Beta]> are we using anything for it mahlzeit, docbook or anything ?[13:43:12] <Teknomancer> who cares if they use <BR> ?[13:43:14] <@mahlzeit> yeah docbook[13:43:26] <[Beta]> because if its in a better format, we can do more with it[13:43:40] <[Beta]> bebookfs ?[13:44:00] <Methe> if I remember correctly it exists a script or sthing that makes a beBook out of XML pages[13:44:13] <Methe> if it's not doxygen it's homemade by a friend[13:44:15] <[Beta]> piss-easy pdf generation, support for visual impairment, accessiblity.[13:44:18] <Methe> cant remember[13:44:52] <Methe> [Beta]: HTML is lighter[13:45:09] <[Beta]> ? erm, i'm recommending it[13:45:14] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[13:45:15] <[Beta]> xHTML to be precise[13:46:55] <Teknomancer> is using const char *const kHello = "xx", *const kHey = "cc"; a good way to store STRING constants in Header files ??[13:47:52] * Methe likes #DEFINE for string constants :)[13:48:17] <[Beta]> Methe: http://www.david-reid.com/cynic/index.php?p=38 that ?[13:48:41] <Methe> nope [Beta][13:48:45] <Teknomancer> Methe but using const char* const isn't incorrect or anything right ?[13:48:49] <Methe> but intreesting[13:49:13] <Methe> const char *const is a contant pointer on a constant string[13:49:31] <Teknomancer> yes i know.[13:49:38] <@mahlzeit> Teknomancer: wouldn't that cause a duplicate symbol error when you include the .h in more than one .cpp file?[13:49:43] <Teknomancer> is it all right to use those instead of #DEFINE[13:49:48] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit nope[13:49:55] <Methe> mahlzeit: yeah was just gonna say it too :)[13:49:55] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit been using it all the time.[13:50:09] <Methe> so[13:50:12] <Methe> if u like it[13:50:14] <Methe> and it works[13:50:20] <Methe> where's the problem ?[13:50:21] <@mahlzeit> personally, i think it's ugly :-)[13:50:21] <Methe> :x[13:50:27] * Methe too[13:50:54] <Teknomancer> mahlzeit so just const char * ?[13:51:06] <@mahlzeit> nah, #define :-)[13:51:20] <@mahlzeit> but you should use whatever makes you feel happy[13:51:27] * Methe pets mahlzeit[13:51:31] <Methe> true too[13:51:49] <JBurton> Teknomancer or static const char * const[13:51:50] <JBurton> :)[13:51:59] * Methe slaps JBurton. u lamer[13:52:01] *** BGA has joined #haiku[13:52:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[13:52:19] <[Beta]> heh[13:52:28] <Methe> argh I had a question for JBurton[13:52:39] <Methe> I'll assk tonight[13:52:44] <Methe> got to go to school[13:52:49] <Methe> grrrrrr english course[13:53:10] <JBurton> Methe hmmm tonight ?[13:53:15] <JBurton> as when ?[13:53:20] <Methe> 4PM ?[13:53:24] <Methe> fine 2 u ?[13:53:31] <Methe> but I can ask another day lol[13:53:33] <JBurton> if we are in the same timezone, yes[13:53:40] <Methe> JBurton lol where are u[13:53:43] <Methe> in italia[13:53:43] <JBurton> Italia[13:53:45] <JBurton> yes[13:53:50] <Methe> I'm in France[13:53:52] <JBurton> ah ok[13:53:57] <Methe> and have always been :x[13:53:58] <JBurton> I'll be here[13:53:59] <JBurton> :P[13:54:04] <Methe> c u then[13:54:08] <Methe> hf every1[13:54:22] * Methe hihi @ IRC-stylish suxing typo[13:55:27] *** Methe has quit IRC[13:56:55] <Teknomancer> ok thanks all[14:00:48] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[14:00:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[14:06:26] <JBurton> hi mmu_man[14:06:41] <@mmu_man> plop[14:06:46] <Teknomancer> ;-P[14:19:45] *** SirMik has joined #haiku[14:21:59] <Teknomancer> SirMik.[14:22:04] <SirMik> ah hi :)[14:22:23] <Teknomancer> welcome :-)[14:22:29] <Begasus> plop[14:22:47] <SirMik> Teknomancer: thnx[14:22:59] <SirMik> Teknomancer like Beshare better :)[14:23:56] <Teknomancer> hehe :-)[14:30:48] *** SirMik has quit IRC[14:31:04] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[14:31:08] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[14:33:16] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuBar.cpp MenuItem.cpp): implemented B_ITEMS_IN_MATRIX layout correctly. Small cleanups all around.[14:35:56] <JBurton> obligatory screenshots:[14:35:58] <JBurton> http://burton666.neoni.net/menu_selection.jpg[14:36:04] <JBurton> http://burton666.neoni.net/menu_in_matrix.jpg[14:36:24] <JBurton> it's not perfect, mind you[14:38:06] <dos4> progress is good[14:38:54] <JBurton> yeah[14:39:16] <dos4> hi mmu_man are you here?[14:39:22] *** dos4 is now known as Dr_Evil[14:39:44] <JBurton> ha, so you were "disguised", Dr_Evil :P[14:40:13] <Dr_Evil> I wasn't hiding[14:40:16] <Begasus> well you know he's Evil <bg>[14:40:48] <JBurton> Dr_Evil well yeah, I just didnt' know you were ... er, you were you[14:40:49] <@mmu_man> plop do[14:40:53] <@mmu_man> plop Dr_Evil[14:41:02] <@mmu_man> btw, fixed a nasty one in dosfs[14:41:14] <Dr_Evil> uhh, great[14:41:15] <@mmu_man> returning an error btu leaving *len !=0[14:41:18] *** BGA has quit IRC[14:41:36] <Dr_Evil> mmu_man can you please send me a traceroute to ftp.overhagen.de ?[14:41:37] <@mmu_man> I was wondering why grep was eating up the ram =)[14:41:51] <@mmu_man> sutre[14:42:02] *** mmu_man sets mode: +o Dr_Evil[14:49:41] <@mmu_man> no wonder why dosfs is sooo slow[14:49:52] <@mmu_man> there is a single big volume lock[14:50:06] <JBurton> hmmm great[14:50:25] <@mmu_man> let's fix that :)[14:52:17] <JBurton> go![14:52:27] <JBurton> gooo![14:52:28] <JBurton> gooooooo![14:55:38] <JBurton> mmu_man add some random locks around[14:55:43] <JBurton> that will make it faster :)[14:56:06] <@mmu_man> first a multi-reader single-writer lock on the FAT[14:56:14] <@mmu_man> and maybe node locking[14:56:25] <@mmu_man> that should help :)[14:58:49] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku[15:00:51] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone know if this 4in1 device is any good?[15:01:03] <Fanskapet> or is it just crap?[15:01:15] <JBurton> hmmmm windows Fanskapet ?[15:01:22] <Fanskapet> ahh no[15:01:32] <JBurton> ah sorry[15:01:36] <Fanskapet> I have a device called 4in1 instead of an ordinary floppy on my new laptop[15:01:37] <JBurton> I read "4in1 driver"[15:01:40] <JBurton> :P[15:01:43] <JBurton> no idea[15:01:51] <Fanskapet> looks like a memorycard[15:01:53] <Fanskapet> hmm okey.[15:02:09] <JBurton> I'm broken[15:02:16] <JBurton> (by Pantera)[15:02:18] <JBurton> ^_^[15:02:39] <Fanskapet> ahh. great.. even windows didn't support all my hardware as standard :) i wonder how much BeOS will support.. *shrugs*[15:03:33] <@mmu_man> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134685&cid=11243879 [ahhh, google...][15:04:17] *** BGA has joined #haiku[15:04:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[15:05:55] <@mmu_man> plop![15:08:14] <JBurton> hi BGA[15:10:14] *** BGA has quit IRC[15:38:08] <JBurton> brb coffee[15:41:39] *** M199 has joined #haiku[15:48:27] *** Konrad has quit IRC[15:49:20] <@AndrewBachmann> mmu_man do you know about centrino laptop video + beos[15:49:30] <@AndrewBachmann> it's Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (855GME chipset)[15:49:58] <JBurton> hey AndrewBachmann[15:51:40] <@mmu_man> hmm no[15:51:59] <@AndrewBachmann> I wonder if I can use the 810 driver[15:52:16] <@AndrewBachmann> if I change the card code[15:52:32] <JBurton> AndrewBachmann, the driver haxor[15:52:34] <JBurton> :P[15:53:31] <@AndrewBachmann> :-P[15:53:35] <@AndrewBachmann> ok anyway gtg[15:53:47] <JBurton> bye AndrewBachmann[15:56:33] *** Master199 has quit IRC[15:57:38] <@Dr_Evil> AndrewBachmann YOU CAN'T USE THE 810 DRIVER FOR 855G GRAPHICS[15:59:28] *** Methe has joined #haiku[15:59:44] <JBurton> wb Methe[15:59:55] <Methe> ahah[15:59:59] <Methe> I was sure of that[15:59:59] <@Dr_Evil> AndrewBachmann I have both datasheets, and they really have nothing in common[16:00:12] <Methe> that u'd jump on me. =][16:00:16] <JBurton> Methe :)[16:00:52] <Methe> 2sec :][16:01:00] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[16:01:19] *** RageMax has quit IRC[16:03:53] <Methe> JBurton I saw your checkin of Menu[16:04:01] *** brennanos has joined #haiku[16:04:17] <Methe> where u stated u had'nt done a drawing[16:04:22] <Methe> like menubar == 2[16:04:56] * Methe goes into CVS[16:05:39] <JBurton> yes, I remember[16:05:43] <JBurton> it was BSeparatorItem[16:05:49] <JBurton> not menubar[16:05:50] <JBurton> IIRC[16:06:25] <JBurton> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/open-beos/current/src/kits/interface/SeparatorItem.cpp?rev=1.2&view=log[16:06:41] <Methe> indeed[16:06:50] <Methe> have gone through BeBook[16:06:56] <JBurton> yes ?[16:07:02] <Methe> and have't seen a blasted example of how style 2 should look like[16:07:13] <JBurton> well, open your "Menu" pref app[16:07:26] * Methe autoslop. Im fkn too dumb[16:07:30] <JBurton> ^________^[16:07:56] *** gipfex has joined #haiku[16:07:57] <Methe> then I'll try to code it for you :]][16:08:06] <Methe> Just got to understand the little funcs u're calling[16:08:19] <JBurton> ok :P[16:08:45] <Methe> where are there defined: tint_colr & ui_color ?[16:09:13] <JBurton> InterfaceDefs.h, IIRC[16:09:14] <@Dr_Evil> GraphicsDefs.h or InterfaceDefs.h perhaps[16:09:17] <JBurton> or GraphicsDefs :)[16:09:24] <Methe> thx[16:09:28] <Methe> gonna look taht up[16:09:55] <Methe> It'll take 3 more times than if u guys did it directly but well. If it can spare you time ..... :]][16:10:47] <JBurton> well, I'm simply not going to do it :P[16:10:53] <Methe> ah[16:10:56] <JBurton> I hate doing those things :)))[16:11:01] <Methe> then if I can. I'll gladly sent it to you :][16:11:05] <JBurton> ok thanks[16:11:08] <JBurton> :)[16:11:19] <Methe> no pb. For once that my poor skill & knowledge can be any help[16:12:08] <JBurton> ahah you shouldn't understimate yourself like that[16:12:24] <Methe> well, maybe i'm not[16:13:27] <JBurton> btw... I guess you want to be able to test our BMenu*** implementatio, right ?[16:13:30] <JBurton> implementation[16:14:17] <Methe> well. I was planning to simply test the drawing code[16:14:21] <Methe> for simplicity[16:14:35] <JBurton> ok, it's better[16:14:37] <JBurton> right[16:14:40] <JBurton> good idea[16:14:47] <Methe> :][16:15:44] <Methe> where are the *.h in the tree lol ?[16:15:59] <JBurton> "/current/headers[16:27:33] <CIA-5> mmu_man * current/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/ (dosfs.h file.c): report error correctly (*len = 0) when read()ing a dir; some comments; don't tell BEOS:TYPE changed for folders since they don't have it.[16:29:15] <@mmu_man> ahh :)[16:31:53] <JBurton> hah, mmu_man the C haxor[16:31:53] <JBurton> :P[16:31:59] <@mmu_man> bbl[16:32:00] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:32:49] *** Koki has joined #haiku[16:33:35] <JBurton> hi Koki[16:34:18] <Konrad> Hello JBurton, nice work on the menus[16:34:54] <Koki> hello JBurton[16:34:59] <Koki> bon jorno[16:38:28] <JBurton> Konrad oh, thanks :P[16:38:40] <JBurton> buona sera, Koki, it's already evening here :P[16:42:47] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:42:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[16:42:59] *** gipfex has left #haiku[16:53:21] *** illissius_ has quit IRC[16:53:28] *** illissius_ has joined #haiku[16:54:56] <Koki> JBurton, aqui en California sono 8:00AM[16:57:48] * Koki is idle: breakfast[16:58:18] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:00:49] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:01:09] *** lechu_mys has joined #haiku[17:01:18] <lechu_mys> hellp[17:01:21] <lechu_mys> hello ;][17:01:49] <lemon> hello[17:02:20] <lechu_mys> do you know anything how is GUI status ?[17:05:01] <lechu_mys> :|[17:05:17] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/src/kits/interface/ (Menu.cpp MenuWindow.cpp): Added some todo items, cleanups. Removed the frame parameter from BMenuWindow as it's not needed.[17:05:50] <lechu_mys> uh ..[17:05:50] *** emwe has quit IRC[17:05:58] <CIA-5> jackburton * current/headers/private/interface/MenuWindow.h: Removed the frame parameter from BMenuWindow[17:06:03] <lechu_mys> i wrote some letters to Hiku[17:06:09] <lechu_mys> Haiku[17:06:14] <lechu_mys> but no answer :|[17:06:23] <JBurton> hmmm to which address ?[17:06:30] <lechu_mys> i dont remember :|[17:06:33] <JBurton> heh[17:06:38] <lechu_mys> eh[17:06:43] <JBurton> well, I'm sure it wasn't haiku at haiku dot org :P[17:06:45] <@Dr_Evil> which address?[17:06:58] <lechu_mys> i think i can help with making graphics[17:07:24] <lechu_mys> eh .. i dont remember .. sorry :|[17:07:55] <lechu_mys> i can make some icons .. and others :>[17:08:02] <lechu_mys> it they need any help ..[17:09:19] <lechu_mys> so ? :>[17:09:38] <@Dr_Evil> well, I would like to say: write an email[17:09:44] <lechu_mys> ;][17:10:07] <lechu_mys> hih[17:10:59] <lechu_mys> mmm .. Dr_Evil .. i think i know you ;][17:11:29] <lechu_mys> via .. ICQ or .. other instant ..[17:12:26] <lechu_mys> uh .. i remember :)[17:12:39] *** M199 has quit IRC[17:12:52] <lechu_mys> i think it was ICQ[17:13:19] <lechu_mys> and you send me some your Zeta Wallpapers[17:13:24] <lechu_mys> ;][17:14:16] <lechu_mys> sorry but haiku-os.org dont work[17:14:26] <JBurton> er, I know[17:14:29] <lechu_mys> can you give me an email ?[17:14:44] <JBurton> er, of who ?[17:14:47] <JBurton> mine ?[17:14:51] <lechu_mys> eee[17:14:52] <lechu_mys> no[17:15:01] <lechu_mys> an 03 16:15:01 <lechu_mys> an email to haiku ;][17:15:04] <lechu_mys> i dont know ;][17:15:13] <JBurton> heh[17:15:17] <lechu_mys> sorry .. ;][17:15:26] <@Dr_Evil> mphipps1 at rochester dot rr.c[17:15:26] <@Dr_Evil> om[17:15:41] <@Dr_Evil> well, use mphipps1 at rochester dot rr.com[17:15:44] <lechu_mys> Dr Evil[17:15:50] <lechu_mys> ok ok[17:16:03] <JBurton> that's the most official mail to haiku you can get[17:16:13] <lechu_mys> ok[17:16:15] <lechu_mys> thanks[17:16:30] <lechu_mys> need any help ?[17:16:50] <lechu_mys> because i remember ... Dr Evil could make graphics[17:17:17] <lechu_mys> i still have some on my hdd ;][17:17:17] *** lemon has quit IRC[17:18:13] * Dr_Evil isn't into graphics[17:18:25] <lechu_mys> eh .. sorry[17:18:45] <lechu_mys> i dont know how i can say it in english ;][17:18:58] <lechu_mys> after new year .. i'm still :|[17:20:12] <lechu_mys> eh .. ok whatever ;][17:20:25] <lechu_mys> i'll write an email ;][17:20:41] <lechu_mys> and i want to help .. ;][17:22:25] *** lechu_mys has quit IRC[17:22:49] *** lechu_mys has joined #haiku[17:22:53] <lechu_mys> ok[17:22:56] <lechu_mys> i must go[17:23:28] <lechu_mys> big thnx and bigger sorry for everything ;][17:24:58] *** Konrad has quit IRC[17:25:42] <lechu_mys> eh .. ok ;][17:25:45] <lechu_mys> bye ;][17:25:51] <lechu_mys> =))[17:25:55] *** lechu_mys has quit IRC[17:28:39] *** solicit has joined #haiku[17:36:55] *** frankps has joined #haiku[17:41:33] *** badonaway has quit IRC[17:46:42] <JBurton> bye all[17:46:58] *** JBurton has quit IRC[17:49:05] *** 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tqh[20:18:52] <tqh> hey[20:19:46] * tic is testing the vnc server from within windows[20:23:11] * tqh should probably install it to be able to do some FF building while at work.[20:23:29] <Konrad> Thats an good idea tqh[20:23:40] <tic> yeah. it's atble, but not yet very fast[20:27:58] <tqh> Unfortunatly I don't have much spare time at work.[20:29:51] *** thaflo has joined #haiku[20:32:37] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[20:34:33] *** thaflo has quit IRC[20:38:46] <fyysik> tqh, i met weird situation with gcc 2.953. It really produces Mozilla which cannot be executed under netserver, while starts ok under BONE[20:39:16] <fyysik> inspite i'm building it under netserver[20:42:23] <tqh> I read it, sounds like missing library to me.[20:42:25] *** voidref has quit IRC[20:43:15] <tqh> From terminal it never reports what library is missing but launching from deskbar does.[20:43:28] <fyysik> it isn't. at least it don't complain about missing symbol, which usually happens in case of missing library[20:43:31] <AnEvilYak> tqh: terminal will report in syslog[20:43:43] <fyysik> it just says "cannot execute binary"[20:43:47] <tqh> hmm[20:44:28] <tqh> Oh, it says 'sh: ./firefox-bin: Missing library'[20:44:38] <tic> so double click itc.[20:44:41] <tic> and you'll see it in Tracker.[20:44:48] <tqh> fyysik: That seems very weird[20:44:50] <tic> mm, sweet sweet svorak again.[20:44:59] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[20:45:22] <tqh> tic, nah, I just had to see what it says when libraries are missing and launching from Terminal.[20:46:14] *** voidref has joined #haiku[20:46:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref[20:46:57] <tqh> hmm, well I have no clue about what it can be then.[20:47:43] *** Lebuzzer has joined #haiku[20:50:31] *** ConneX has quit IRC[20:59:48] *** voidref has quit IRC[20:59:58] * fyysik changed his userpict in LJ - enjoy - http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/24160346/134134[21:00:41] <Fanskapet> agh.! BeOS did not work well on my laptop :/ can't even start the Zeta installation :/[21:00:43] <Fanskapet> well well[21:02:10] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:03:04] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[21:03:50] <tic> fan: patch?[21:04:21] <Fanskapet> tic, patch?[21:04:31] <Fanskapet> can't patch it when not even the installation works :)[21:04:43] <Fanskapet> maybe a patched R5 could work.. but the Zeta issue seems a bit strange[21:08:00] *** voidref has joined #haiku[21:08:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o voidref[21:08:23] <tic> get a patched R5 and install[21:08:26] <tic> then install zeta, and patch it.[21:10:19] *** illissius[food] is now known as illissius[21:10:27] <tqh> fyysik Nice[21:15:25] *** RageMax has quit IRC[21:16:11] *** Lebuzzer has quit IRC[21:27:28] *** RageMax has joined #haiku[21:27:34] *** BGA has joined #haiku[21:27:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[21:27:43] <NathanW> hey BGA[21:27:55] <dos4> oh hey NathanW![21:28:38] <NathanW> hi dos4[21:29:31] <fyysik> what happened with Dr_Evil's site?[21:29:35] <@BGA> NathanW![21:29:37] <dos4> oops, need new nick[21:29:42] *** dos4 is now known as Dr_Evil[21:29:52] <Dr_Evil> fyysik will reappear in a few days[21:29:53] <fyysik> mad-scientist i mean[21:30:03] <fyysik> changing hoster?[21:30:09] <Dr_Evil> I just need to configure that new dedicated linux server box[21:30:11] *** Bernd has joined #haiku[21:30:16] <Dr_Evil> don't know how to do that yet[21:30:27] <Dr_Evil> and DNS changes will need 24 hours to propagate[21:30:32] <Bernd> hi[21:30:39] <Dr_Evil> fyysik yes, changing hoster[21:30:43] <Bernd> happy new year to all[21:30:50] <Bernd> NathanW are you here?[21:30:56] <NathanW> hi Bernd[21:31:32] <fyysik> Is Oliver Tappe visiting this channel sometimes?[21:31:37] *** Lebuzzer has joined #haiku[21:31:48] *** Lebuzzer has quit IRC[21:31:49] <Dr_Evil> fyysik not that I know[21:32:28] <@mmu_man> the linker[21:32:34] <@mmu_man> EBADWIN[21:32:40] <fyysik> ?[21:32:48] <Dr_Evil> lol[21:35:24] *** Bernd has quit IRC[21:36:22] <NathanW> Does anyone know if axeld's working on an HTML text translator too?[21:36:42] <NathanW> It would be nice for BeMail...[21:37:19] <NathanW> And I don't want to duplicate work[21:38:00] *** Bernd has joined #haiku[21:38:50] <tqh> He probably is as he seems to be working on everything :P[21:38:57] <NathanW> haha[21:39:53] *** Potn has quit IRC[21:41:35] *** flameshadow has joined #haiku[21:41:47] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[21:42:04] * fyysik wish to be some open source sponsoring foundation supervisor, to provide some donation to axeld. Like EUR 10 000 to let him work at haiku 2-3 months full time:)[21:42:23] <NathanW> heh - yeah[21:42:56] *** Lebuzzer has joined #haiku[21:43:11] <@mmu_man> let's buy him some coke and crackers[21:43:15] <@mmu_man> and pizzas[21:43:19] <@mmu_man> all he needs[21:43:21] <Bernd> haha[21:43:24] <@mmu_man> ni the basement[21:43:35] <Bernd> i remember when mmu_man was in Mannheim in the office[21:43:40] <Bernd> he worked for around 26 hours[21:43:41] <fyysik> actually open source software should follow science financing model - development and research grants for projects[21:43:42] <DaaT> why cokes and crackers? Just coke[21:43:48] <Bernd> then his had knocked down to the keyboard[21:43:52] <Bernd> and he slept around 2 hours[21:44:03] <Bernd> then his had lifted up as nothing would have been happend[21:44:04] <@mmu_man> Bernd didn"t you sign an NDA ???[21:44:07] <@mmu_man> :p[21:44:09] <Bernd> and he started to code again *LOL[21:44:13] <Bernd> it was SO funny !!![21:44:24] <Bernd> i think he didnt knwo that he had a "shutdown"[21:44:42] <fyysik> rather suspend/hybernate[21:44:57] <Bernd> yeah[21:45:03] <fyysik> probably he started from same point[21:45:08] <Bernd> to bad that we made no video :)[21:45:11] <Bernd> he DID![21:45:17] <@mmu_man> that's the problem with APM, the BIOS does it behind your back[21:45:20] <@mmu_man> :p[21:45:23] <tqh> I think the cpu was processing some heavy task :)[21:45:32] <Bernd> haha[21:47:05] <fyysik> reboot. trying to crate report for Oliver[21:47:08] *** fyysik has quit IRC[21:47:17] <DaaT> mmu_man, btw, make APM work with my laptop :)[21:47:27] <DaaT> you have... 28 hours to do it, with 2 of sleep included[21:47:32] <@mmu_man> DaaT well apm does work[21:47:38] <@mmu_man> but you must stay in vesa mode :)[21:47:59] <Dr_Evil> SMM - system management mode[21:48:00] <DaaT> eeewww[21:48:13] *** tic has quit IRC[21:48:36] *** m_eiman has quit IRC[21:49:30] *** tic has joined #haiku[21:50:22] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[21:57:08] *** fyysik has quit IRC[21:58:12] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[21:58:13] *** Konrad has quit IRC[21:58:15] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[21:58:28] <fyysik> !ChanServ news[21:58:43] <fyysik> !seen fyysik[21:58:51] <Bernd> watch a mirror :)[21:58:55] <fyysik> !ChanServ seen fyysik[21:59:15] <fyysik> eghm, and what for that nick registration is?[22:00:47] *** fyysik has quit IRC[22:02:35] * tqh wonders if he found himself[22:02:57] <tic> huh?[22:02:58] <tic> :)[22:03:30] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[22:08:03] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: /cs[22:08:11] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: /cs help for chanserv commands[22:08:18] <DaaT> counter-strike![22:09:10] <fyysik> btw, this is boring. No server tells me everytime that fyysik is not me, and asking for identification. So wondering, how to remove my nick from registration:([22:09:21] <fyysik> s/No/Now[22:10:13] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: that's because it matches against hostmask[22:10:37] <AnEvilYak> fyysik: try /ns set secure on[22:10:52] <AnEvilYak> and set kill on[22:13:46] <fyysik> NickServ- Kill Protection is disabled on this network[22:14:53] *** ahwayakchih has joined #haiku[22:14:56] <ahwayakchih> hih> hi all[22:15:13] <ahwayakchih> fyysik have You tried to run it from Tracker (to get missing symbol name :)[22:15:14] <ahwayakchih> ?[22:16:37] *** LupusMic1aelis has joined #haiku[22:17:50] <fyysik> don't worok, and tells something similar, like not executable or such[22:18:52] <ahwayakchih> hmm.. that's strange[22:19:09] <ahwayakchih> ok, can You tell me exact error message?[22:19:22] <ahwayakchih> does it mention missing symbol?[22:19:31] <fyysik> no, it don't as i said[22:19:34] <fyysik> wait a minute[22:20:07] <fyysik> should reboot to netserver. Under bone it starts[22:20:22] <ahwayakchih> hmm[22:20:27] *** fyysik has quit IRC[22:20:35] <@mmu_man> cvs diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5 src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/dosfs.c[22:20:45] * mmu_man slaps NathanW for putting non-R5 includes there[22:20:59] <tic> heh.[22:22:00] *** thaflo has joined #haiku[22:22:49] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[22:23:07] <fyysik> damn, obviously i should kill that stupid registration[22:23:15] <ahwayakchih> :)[22:23:49] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - at morning[22:24:00] <fyysik> currently it is built with 2.9[22:24:13] <ahwayakchih> :)[22:24:13] <fyysik> so cleaning, configuring, makeing[22:24:15] <ahwayakchih> ok[22:24:46] <ahwayakchih> one thing: i was getting "not executable" type error when i first tried new binutils with 2.x gcc - maybe You have something wrongly installed?[22:25:07] *** thaflo has quit IRC[22:25:10] *** thaflo has joined #haiku[22:25:14] <Bernd> thaflo?[22:25:18] <Bernd> zurück aus dem Büro?[22:25:30] *** brennanOS has joined #haiku[22:25:34] <thaflo> ja :-[22:25:34] <ahwayakchih> (i also was getting that error with 3.x - binutils needs to be patched for BeOS to not generate one symbol - Oliver Tappe found it)[22:25:41] <thaflo> :-)[22:25:44] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - but why it starts under bone? and why VLC don't suffer from that problem?[22:26:12] <ahwayakchih> fyysik hmm, You're right, maybe it's not that type of rerror :)[22:26:36] <fyysik> it seems don't link some bootstrap code[22:26:53] <ahwayakchih> fyysik yep, it may be - maybe it's linked as shared library?[22:26:59] <fyysik> like some main() parts[22:27:09] <thaflo> Freu mich schon auf morgen, ich nehm mal meine Gitarre mit[22:27:11] <ahwayakchih> right[22:27:13] <@mmu_man> hmm actually -r1.3 -r 1.4 is the interesting one[22:27:28] <ahwayakchih> fyysik does it work with default specs file?[22:28:01] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - with default specs it don't build under netserver at all, as you explained yourself to me:)[22:28:03] *** LupusMichaelis has quit IRC[22:28:04] <ahwayakchih> (ie. compiled and linked uing default specs, not ".r5" one)[22:28:24] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ah, right :) but maybe try to just add -lnet to specs file?[22:28:33] <thaflo> Bernd, wenn ich bloß das Büro morgen noch finde... hab mich heimwärts ein wenig verfahren[22:28:41] <ahwayakchih> (to default one)[22:28:43] <fyysik> and when i manually forced to use libnet with default specs, it behaved in same way[22:28:52] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ah :([22:28:58] <fyysik> cannot execute[22:29:18] <fyysik> maybe there is something about default stack size?[22:29:19] <Bernd> thaflo *LOL[22:29:28] <fyysik> is there such definition in specs?[22:29:41] <ahwayakchih> fyysik hmm AFAIK no[22:31:58] <ahwayakchih> fyysik was "makefile" (or whatever is used for mozilla" changed lately? maybe someone changed something and broke r5 build?[22:32:04] <ahwayakchih> (r5 netserver)[22:33:06] <Bernd> good night all[22:33:17] <fyysik> no, i as i tried it with very different sources, one from begining of 2004, second from end[22:33:45] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - and again, it builds[22:33:52] *** Bernd has quit IRC[22:34:01] <fyysik> and if it is built with 2.9 - it starts nicely[22:34:51] <fyysik> also that crash under Dano/Zeta[22:35:09] <fyysik> it happens only if built with gcc 2.953[22:35:27] *** Bryan_W has joined #haiku[22:35:31] <fyysik> works fine with R5+bone7a[22:35:48] <ahwayakchih> fyysik that's really strange :([22:35:52] <fyysik> ik> i mean 1.7a version currently at bebits[22:37:21] <ahwayakchih> fyysik try to get exact error message, maybe that will help something. also have You tried that syslog thing Oliver mentioned?[22:37:38] <fyysik> ahwayakchih - at morning[22:37:40] *** frankps has left #haiku[22:37:42] <ahwayakchih> fyysik ok[22:37:45] <fyysik> no such version here at moment[22:37:49] <fyysik> which i can to try[22:38:08] <fyysik> as i rebuilt it with 2.9 for testing and publishing[22:39:38] <fyysik> bbl[22:40:04] <ahwayakchih> fyysik looks like default and r5 specs are different only at one line, only by "-lnet" so i guess it's not specs file thing...[22:40:05] *** fyysik has quit IRC[22:40:35] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:42:01] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[22:42:32] *** Konrad has quit IRC[22:42:34] *** Konrad77 has joined #haiku[22:44:09] <Dr_Evil> -lnet is an error and should be removed[22:44:47] <ahwayakchih> Dr_Evil from where? specs file? yes You're right :)[22:46:39] *** illissius is now known as illissius[away][22:47:21] <Dr_Evil> yes[22:48:39] *** Lebuzzer has quit IRC[22:50:16] *** liquidboy has joined #haiku[22:50:51] <ahwayakchih> Dr_Evil thing is fyysik (and others) probably wants to work on actual code and not on stupid makefiles/configure/whatever hell. That's why it's easier to just use -lnet in specs :)[22:51:54] <mmadia> liquidboy: plfiorini is in #mockup if you want to ask him about it[22:51:57] <ahwayakchih> config files can be patched properly later[22:52:15] <ahwayakchih> (or first if it's too much work to workaround them ;)[22:52:19] <liquidboy> mmadia: i didnt ask a question...[22:52:27] <liquidboy> did you mean someone else?[22:52:56] <mmadia> liquidboy: no, you. a few days ago we were talking about #mockup and you had some questions that i couldnt answer[22:53:23] <liquidboy> aaahhh[22:53:34] <liquidboy> now that i remember, i can[22:53:39] <liquidboy> t exactly remember what they were[22:53:41] <liquidboy> :P[22:54:06] <ahwayakchih> good night everyone[22:54:11] *** ahwayakchih has quit IRC[22:57:40] *** slaad has joined #haiku[22:59:08] <liquidboy> iquidboy> i think plfiorini is away or something[22:59:13] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[23:01:55] *** thaflo has quit IRC[23:03:56] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[23:09:01] *** Greyhawk_Dragon has quit IRC[23:10:35] *** Sg_Henry has joined #haiku[23:10:40] <Sg_Henry> hi[23:10:53] <slaad> 'lo[23:10:59] <Begasus> ho[23:11:56] <DaaT> bork[23:11:56] <DaaT> :P[23:12:55] <Begasus> hi DaaT ;)[23:16:02] <DaaT> hey Begasus[23:22:18] *** liquidboy has left #haiku[23:23:50] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[23:23:58] <fyysik> dropped registration[23:27:10] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[23:27:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[23:38:01] <CIA-5> mmu_man * current/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/dos/ (encodings.cpp file.c mime_table.c):[23:38:01] <CIA-5> because uni_str is incremented in utf8_to_u_hostendian() UNICODE is moved inside[23:38:01] <CIA-5> the loop in _utf8_to_sjis_bendian() to avoid crashing. (it points to a single[23:38:01] <CIA-5> unicode char!!) (other option is to not increment uni_str, but it's kept for[23:38:01] <CIA-5> consistency).[23:38:02] <CIA-5> some cosmetic changes[23:38:12] <tic> go mmu_man![23:39:11] <fyysik> mmu_man - did you add ability to set dosfs encoding in kernel/drivers/settings ?[23:39:31] <fyysik> that's quite essential[23:41:16] * Dr_Evil opens a beer. *plop*[23:41:34] *** thies has quit IRC[23:43:04] <ConneX> fyysik, sorry to bother you, but i hope you can answear why my Firefox outputs Signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg. (application/x-vnd.Mozilla,application/x-vnd.Firefox) when it wont start?[23:43:41] *** thies has joined #haiku[23:44:22] <Dr_Evil> ConneX thats because the signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg[23:44:33] <Dr_Evil> BApplication constructor[23:45:17] <ConneX> hmm[23:45:18] <ConneX> yea[23:46:54] <slaad> The resource signature overrides the constructor, doesn't it?[23:50:25] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:50:47] <fyysik> ConneX - old thing, must be fixed in new build[23:51:32] * tic wants a new 'puter[23:51:56] <ConneX> fyysik, its quite old.. trying to update it :)[23:52:08] <fyysik> no sense[23:52:16] <fyysik> no proper FF build at moment[23:52:34] <fyysik> look if you find some better working at bezilla blog[23:52:42] <@mmu_man> fyysik not yet[23:53:01] <fyysik> LoLL from France made two or 3 working newer builds[23:54:54] <slaad> Me too tic, me too.[23:55:03] <slaad> I need to buy a case to set up an IM Kit server.[23:57:56] <tic> aha.[23:58:15] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:58:18] <tic> got myself a geforce fx5700 today, and the TFTs hooked up to it.[23:58:29] <tic> So I'm kinda looking at a single-fan Dothan system.[23:58:38] <tic> oh well. should be sleeping, taking care of my wrist instead of typing.[23:58:41] <tic> night!