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[12:45:54] <electrofelix> wondering if anyone familiar with tuning gerrit/jvm would know why starting up Gerrit on a 16 core with 128G of memory takes ~56 seconds, while the same on a 4 core (slower speed as well) with 24G of memory takes ~13 seconds even when setting '-Xmx8g and -Xms8g' for both.
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[17:54:59] <zaro> electrofelix: interesting, is it consistently slower?
[17:55:48] <paladox> We had that problem too on wikimedia's gerrit server, turns out it was the server that was the problem. Maybe the server is going faulty?
[17:58:44] <electrofelix> zaro: yep, consistently slower
[17:59:09] <electrofelix> paladox: this seems to be an outlier process as I can run many other VM's and containers on this workstation without an issue
[17:59:13] <zaro> any errors in logs?
[17:59:21] <paladox> Oh
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[17:59:58] <paladox> What did you set as your heap?
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[18:01:22] <electrofelix> paladox: JAVA_OPTIONS="-Xmx8g -Xms2g"
[18:01:31] <paladox> Oh.
[18:01:45] <electrofelix> zaro: none, and I'm unsure what I can turn up to see what is going on
[18:02:17] <electrofelix> I've tried enabling -verbose:gc and it didn't execute during the time the console was showing nothing from gerrit
[18:02:59] <electrofelix> I could see the verbose out at other times, but the app seemed to go into a loop for anywhere from 50 to 200 seconds
[18:03:22] <paladox> What version of gerrit are you running?
[18:03:22] <electrofelix> even -verbose:class went quiet during this period suggesting nothing was running
[18:03:31] <electrofelix> 2.13.5
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[18:04:19] <paladox> Hmm, it takes a few secs on wikimedias cobalt server for gerrit to start with 28gb of heap.
[18:04:35] <paladox> it also has a 3.0ghz cpu.
[18:04:47] <paladox> What did you set in your gerrit.config?
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[18:05:10] <paladox> One of the configs could be slowing it down.
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[18:57:39] <electrofelix> paladox: sorry meetings there for a while. doesn't explain why it's not slowing down on the other system
[18:57:47] <electrofelix> but I'll dig out the config anyway
[18:57:51] <paladox> ok
[18:57:53] <paladox> thanks
[19:11:13] <electrofelix> paladox: https://gist.github.com/electrofelix/ee8d4a6d77ce4c66a1b97856c1e6ebca
[19:11:46] <electrofelix> since these are test container environments driven by the same config using docker-compose, there really is nothing between them
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[19:13:10] <paladox> Im wondering could it be the h2 database.
[19:13:35] <paladox> see wikimedias version
[19:13:35] <paladox> https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/production/modules/gerrit/templates/gerrit.config.erb
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[19:20:42] <electrofelix> paladox: any ideas on how to get some debug out from it on why the h2 instance it creates is very slow? I've also added more detailed logs to the gist with the full timeline from the containers I'm running without the additional docker timestamps I used earlier for the basici timeline
[19:21:47] <paladox> Nope, i've never used h2. We use mysql however and it can take up to 2+ mins on my testing instance with 8gb of ram but on prod it is a few secs.
[19:22:18] <electrofelix> note that as soon as the daemon is ready and responding to rest requests, we create a custom admin user and password, which is what the add-gerrit-user.sh script running the container is waiting for
[19:22:51] <electrofelix> also these are created pristine each time, and the h2 DB is supposed to be pretty lightweight without the normal guarentees of a real db
[19:26:08] <electrofelix> paladox: hmm, the reindexing operation is about the same for both so I would have thought that would suggest whether the creation of the file based db is slow on one
[19:26:39] <paladox> Oh, could it be the disk (storage)?
[19:26:46] <paladox> Is the disk speed fast?
[19:27:12] <paladox> is there any difference between your other instance and this one in regards to disk speeds?
[19:27:54] <electrofelix> was just thinking that and going to run a quick dd under the /var/lib/docker path on each (it's an mount point in each case)
[19:28:23] <electrofelix> what is odd though that non of the other containers appear to be suffering in this manner, but maybe this is the only one I noticed
[19:30:06] <paladox> oh
[19:30:36] <electrofelix> so 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/lib/docker/testfile bs=1G count=1 oflag=direct'
[19:31:06] <electrofelix> machine with quick gerrit startup: 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 11.4055 s, 94.1 MB/s
[19:31:06] <electrofelix> machine with very slow gerrit startup: 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 2.59705 s, 413 MB/s
[19:31:14] <electrofelix> the slow one is using an ssd
[19:31:18] * electrofelix cries
[19:32:06] <paladox> oh
[19:32:40] <paladox> So the slow one copied data fast.
[19:32:55] <electrofelix> yep
[19:33:09] <paladox> Is there any difference between both the instances that could explain the slow gerrit startup.
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[19:35:00] <electrofelix> I can't see anything, granted I've build the image separately on both machines because it's purely a test/development environment, but I've disabled cache in both cases to ensure I've gotten the most up to date base image and retrieved everything pristine
[19:36:28] <paladox> On my mac which has 16gb and has a 2.5ghz cpu with turbo boost to 3.1ghz it starts up within the few secs
[19:36:38] <paladox> i also have flash storage.
[19:36:45] <paladox> (ssd)
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[19:37:29] <paladox> Is turbo boost avilable on your instances?
[19:38:21] <electrofelix> thinking power management keeping the cpu slower?
[19:39:52] <paladox> It might
[19:40:05] <paladox> we did have cpu problems on our other server lead.
[19:42:34] <electrofelix> hmm, just spotted my problem machine is efi
[19:43:18] <paladox> Oh
[19:51:10] <paladox> i guess efi is slowing it down?
[19:52:42] <electrofelix> maybe, the only other difference is that the quick one is my desktop and the one having a slow gerrit container startup is my second system that I ssh'ed into, but is also connected to the domain, so I'm wondering if there is some weirdness in how it's configured
[19:53:10] <paladox> oh
[20:05:01] <electrofelix> clearly gremins
[20:05:08] <electrofelix> s/gremins/gremlins/
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