February 21, 2017 
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to 'ReviewDb'?[18:53:54] <dborowitz> electrofelix: you can do it via options, but you have to run the RebuildNoteDb program, which has a tendency to bitrot[18:54:34] <dborowitz> one feature that RebuildNoteDb doesn't yet have is the ability to set all changes to use NoteDb as their primary (only) storage location. so even if you set all the config options, changes will still be treating ReviewDb as the source of truth (and writes go to both places)[18:54:35] <electrofelix> have a greenfield installation and considering this for it, is RebuildNoteDb required then?[18:54:46] <dborowitz> ah, no, for an empty site, both the things I just said do not apply[18:55:57] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:56:29] <electrofelix> so for a greenfield all review information will be in the git repos and the remaining data in the DB is user preferrences only? just wondering if going this route simplifies or complicates DR ;-)[18:56:39] <dborowitz> correct[18:57:14] <dborowitz> well, ReviewDb data is various user-related data, but preferences specifically are stored in git already[18:57:29] <dborowitz> (at master, regardless of whether or not you set options to turn on NoteDb for changes)[18:58:03] <dborowitz> for data recovery, yeah, one of the goals of NoteDb is to simplify things by only requiring one backup system instead of two[18:58:08] <dborowitz> but today since there is still a DB, it's basically a wash[18:58:11] *** sbeller_ <sbeller_!quassel@nat/google/x-pesogyedvdlynymu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:58:26] <dborowitz> personally, I think you are ok to start a new installation from master with NoteDb fully enabled[18:58:28] *** sbeller <sbeller!quassel@nat/google/x-zwvilbrgwigifvbr> has joined #gerrit[18:58:28] <electrofelix> So while might still need the DB data backed up, there is no longer the consistency issue?[18:58:48] <dborowitz> well, your backups are as consistent as you can snapshot a git repository[18:58:49] <electrofelix> master only? so not available in 2.13?[18:59:00] <dborowitz> not 2.13, correct[18:59:52] <electrofelix> ah, yes, but previously if we backed up the git repos via replication, and also backed up the DB with a sql dump, would have to reconcile that restoring the DB from a dump may be missing some change/review information[19:00:39] <dborowitz> yeah, what I'm saying is, you potentially have a similar issue with git replication[19:00:41] <electrofelix> and that appeared to require some delete operations to bring things back into a clear working order when trying to upload patches where a patchset exists in git but got lost from db[19:01:17] <dborowitz> you are likely to have *fewer* issues than with mixed db/git backups, but naive git replication is not guaranteed to give you a consistent state[19:01:28] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #gerrit[19:02:29] <electrofelix> that's good to know, is there an issue ticket that goes into a little more detail on where the inconsistencies can occur?[19:02:51] <dborowitz> no, but feel free to file one and cc me[19:03:00] <electrofelix> ;-)[19:06:01] <electrofelix> one last question for now, using ldap auth, but would like to allow users to generate a http password via the UI should they wish to do some scripted accounts via the REST api but avoid needing to store/enter their ldap (corporate) password[19:06:09] <electrofelix> seems this only works if I set auth.gitbasicauth to false[19:06:30] <dborowitz> (sorry, not my area of expertise)[19:06:47] <electrofelix> no worries, I'll ping the google group[19:12:12] *** jrnieder <jrnieder!~jrn@104.132.0.80> has joined #gerrit[19:30:58] *** lqi <lqi!~lqi@qt/lqi> has joined #gerrit[19:31:33] *** lqi <lqi!~lqi@qt/lqi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:32:08] *** lqi <lqi!~lqi@qt/lqi> has joined #gerrit[19:34:04] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 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