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[00:00:11] <cantelope> https://cantelope.org/covid
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[00:01:35] <circuitbone> fear should not be spread.
[00:02:03] <circuitbone> https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-vaca/index.html
[00:02:31] <tjis> ha
[00:02:32] <circuitbone> If you want to reduce the death. You are going to have to sit tight.
[00:08:39] <LunarJetman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTsW30Ur0sg
[00:08:42] <circuitbone> Feel free to challenge your cognitive biases and go lick the bus handles for a facebook dare ;P
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[00:13:05] <notchris> the good news is
[00:13:10] <notchris> we get another episode of tiger king
[00:14:06] <circuitbone> Let's all go down to the amphitheatre in our best bed robes and watch it. oh wait...
[00:14:45] <Alex8532> Hi LJ
[00:15:15] <Alex8532> Hello to w0ndows and jpr4jzne too
[00:15:27] <Prestige> o/
[00:16:24] <jprajzne> hi Alex8532
[00:18:00] <carefish> HALLO FWENDS
[00:18:17] <Hail_Satan> sup dawg
[00:18:28] <Alex8532> Hello and goodbye carefish
[00:18:38] <Alex8532> About to go take a nap.
[00:19:26] <carefish> pfeh
[00:19:35] <carefish> i hope i'll get some good sleep tonight
[00:19:45] <carefish> 5 days in a row of really bad sleep is starting to mess with my head
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[00:38:40] <LunarJetman> hi Alex8532
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[00:52:37] <LunarJetman> I have almost finished removing SDL from neoGFX.
[00:59:18] <LunarJetman> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVCUR7sXsAEf7Qm?format=jpg&name=large
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[01:09:18] <circuitbone> can we see a gource of your repo LunarJetman ?
[01:11:04] <circuitbone> `gource --hide dirnames,filenames --seconds-per-day 0.1 --auto-skip-seconds 1 -1280x720 -o - | ffmpeg -y -r 60 -f image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i - -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 1 -threads 0 -bf 0 gource.mp4`
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[01:25:22] <circuitbone> https://artbreeder.com/i?k=a8b1741d00a60e5a0b40
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[01:32:34] <wondows> cool
[01:35:39] <circuitbone> They introduced a new breeder for portraits.
[01:36:07] <circuitbone> The gene editing sliders now have eyes open and closed. It seems they are heading to animate these as well at some stage.
[01:36:44] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: yes, why?
[01:37:13] <LunarJetman> oh
[01:37:15] <LunarJetman> gource
[01:37:19] <LunarJetman> what the hell is gource
[01:37:44] <circuitbone> Make one for your project and youtube it.
[01:37:51] <LunarJetman> what is it?
[01:38:04] <wondows> gource :D
[01:38:11] <wondows> I guess he means source
[01:38:26] <circuitbone> `gource --hide dirnames,filenames --seconds-per-day 0.1 --auto-skip-seconds 1 -1280x720 -o - | ffmpeg -y -r 60 -f image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i - -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 1 -threads 0 -bf 0 gource.mp4`
[01:38:31] <LunarJetman> what is gource?
[01:38:49] <wondows> oh it's actually a thing
[01:38:52] <circuitbone> It will create an animation of your work in a visual tree.
[01:39:03] <LunarJetman> example video?
[01:39:16] <circuitbone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJxlKD2bjk
[01:40:13] <wondows> wut
[01:40:20] <wondows> that's trippy
[01:40:23] <circuitbone> https://youtu.be/MkJxlKD2bjk?t=297
[01:44:45] <circuitbone> Imagine this as a 3d construct in VR wondows
[01:45:45] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: I ran it but it is very slow
[01:45:50] <LunarJetman> so I cancelled it
[01:45:55] <circuitbone> Wait for the video
[01:46:05] <circuitbone> youtube it after
[01:46:07] <LunarJetman> wait? it was VERY slow
[01:46:23] <LunarJetman> I would have to wait a LONG TIME
[01:46:47] <circuitbone> Anyway. It is an interesting way to project your work that everyone can understand how much work is involved.
[01:46:57] <LunarJetman> why is it so slow?
[01:47:17] <circuitbone> Its taking shots of your repo and compiling a video
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[01:47:27] <LunarJetman> yeah but why is it so slow?
[01:47:44] <circuitbone> Who knows it is fast here. What sort of box are you on?
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[01:48:13] <LunarJetman> I was running it on my vps displaying it on my X server running on my Windows 10 box
[01:48:14] <circuitbone> shrink the resolution and the frame rate if you want a smaller one.
[01:49:16] <LunarJetman> I suppose I could try it on my fedora vm
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[01:49:39] <LunarJetman> but tomorrow; it is getting late.
[01:49:53] <circuitbone> all good
[01:50:25] <LunarJetman> so once I get keyboard working I have successfully removed SDL from neoGFX \o/
[01:51:13] <LunarJetman> windows, opengl contexts, mouse, clipboard all working, keyboard almost working
[01:55:11] <wondows> did you copy paste the SDL input code?
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[02:04:05] <Hail_Satan> ho lee shit
[02:11:32] <LunarJetman> wondows: I copied some of it then refactored/simplified it and also wrote some from scratch
[02:14:14] <wondows> nice
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[03:13:18] <LunarJetman> gource of neoGFX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dMmp9pSa-4&feature=youtu.be
[03:13:52] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: ^
[03:16:18] <circuitbone> Yeah that was good, Look at all that work.
[03:16:21] <Prestige> LunarJetman: is this all cross platform?
[03:16:45] <Prestige> oh it is
[03:17:15] <LunarJetman> it will be
[03:17:41] <LunarJetman> now that I have removed SDL I have removed all SDL's cross platforminess so I have a bit of work to get other platforms working
[03:19:11] <Prestige> ah cool. I see summer 2020 is your ETA for linux opengl support, how's that goal looking?
[03:19:21] <Prestige> Once it's ready I may start taking time to learn c++
[03:19:38] <LunarJetman> it will be ready when it is done :D
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[03:48:24] <pulse> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=facDr2lTAUM
[03:56:29] <circuitbone> I watched the Norway / New Zealand and the Australian one, its like background zen sounds.
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[05:05:11] <Prestige> why can't I use have a browser that doesn't crap itself
[05:05:18] <Prestige> s/use/just
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[05:17:06] * chrisf frowns at 110GB game patch
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[05:23:10] <Alex8532> Hi
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[05:24:40] <Prestige> Sup Alex8532
[05:25:09] <Alex8532> Prestige: Hey. I have to pull an all-nighter. Hopefully, this will not take more than 2 hours.
[05:25:34] <Prestige> more work things?
[05:27:02] <Alex8532> Yeah
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[06:48:12] <Alex8532> Data migrations suck
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[07:44:47] <brainzap> msuc
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[14:49:17] <markand> hi
[14:49:43] <markand> I'm trying to design a 2d game grid where players will move through it to fight other ones
[14:50:21] <markand> if I draw a simple grid with squares it looks like you have a looking camera "from top"
[14:51:12] <markand> I don't know how to draw that grid so it looks like you're looking at the players from the floor rather than "from the sky"
[14:51:52] <DarkUranium> markand, what do you mean by "from the floor"?
[14:51:57] <DarkUranium> You mean for a side view?
[14:52:10] <DarkUranium> Can you show an example?
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[14:52:17] <markand> yes, sure
[14:52:19] <markand> just a sec
[14:52:36] <markand> oh wait, it looks like someone already did
[14:52:37] <markand> http://i.imgur.com/NJsAnCj.png
[14:52:47] <markand> this has orthogonal squares but looks "okay"
[14:53:41] <DarkUranium> That's a form of a oblique projection.
[14:53:41] <markand> I need to find some tilesets to make prototypes of my game
[14:54:07] <DarkUranium> What do you mean by "orthogonal squares"? What are you *trying* to make?
[14:54:14] <DarkUranium> And, hm.
[14:54:20] <DarkUranium> Some RPG maker tilesets could help?
[14:55:36] <markand> a kind of tactical game where players move through the grid to fight others, just a sec
[14:55:50] <markand> http://markand.fr/static/battle.png
[14:56:04] <markand> this is the grid where players will move
[14:56:17] <markand> the blue at the top will be pure decoration (like sky, forest, sea)
[14:56:19] <DarkUranium> Yes, but ... you said there's a problem with it having orthogonal squares.
[14:56:24] <DarkUranium> What are *non*-orthogonal squares?
[14:56:35] <markand> the grid and the white part will be the place where they move
[14:56:48] <DarkUranium> (FWIW: I'm personally a fan of hexes, but I'm not gonna tell you how to make your game!)
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[14:57:44] <markand> I'm not finding an image, let me draw it by hand quickly :P
[15:05:18] <markand> http://markand.fr/static/grid.jpg
[15:05:33] <markand> so the grid on the right let give you a impression of depth
[15:05:43] <markand> like this: https://vuejsexamples.com/simple-math-to-convert-simple-2d-game-view-to-a-perspective-3d-view/
[15:05:58] <DarkUranium> 403 forbidden
[15:06:05] <markand> oops
[15:06:16] <markand> should be okay now
[15:06:28] <DarkUranium> Oh. You mean perspective.
[15:06:44] <DarkUranium> The way to do perspective is usually to simply render in it :P
[15:07:08] <DarkUranium> That last link of yours basically explains what you want anyways.
[15:07:09] <markand> the problem is that you have to do lots of complex calculation to detect the coordinates (e.g. the mouse)
[15:07:13] <DarkUranium> (for "fake" perspective)
[15:07:27] <markand> the simple grid is easier to develop :P
[15:07:30] <DarkUranium> Nah, not really. Once you have the perspective matrix, you can use it for that.
[15:07:46] <DarkUranium> (it, or its inverse --- depending)
[15:08:39] <DarkUranium> Granted, there is some more complexity, but it only needs to be done once to work generally. There are also "cheaty" ways to do it (color-based picking).
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[15:12:24] <DarkUranium> hi brainzap
[15:12:34] <brainzap> hello people
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[15:26:21] <SdSnatcher> morning
[15:26:41] <DarkUranium> o/
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[15:30:28] <brainzap> good day pulse, I was just thinking of you
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[15:32:03] <pulse> hello zap of brain type
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[15:34:15] <warweasle> Hello.
[15:34:38] <pulse> ola weasle of the war
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[15:36:56] <carefish> just got back from gp, nothing seemingly wrong with my lungs but still should not overexert myself. the heart stabby thing, if that keeps up for 2 more weeks i have to come back to gp to get a referral to hospital
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[16:02:04] <Inside> Hey guys~ question! I'm trying to write a factory simulation program where you can drag & drop processes onto a canvas, define the process through a menu (run times, etc), and then connect the processes with lines. I'm looking at either C# or Python because they have good event simulation libraries.
[16:02:27] <Inside> What combo of libraries for UI + canvas drawing would be the way to go?
[16:02:46] <jprajzne> Inside: look at flow-based programming
[16:02:51] <jprajzne> and tools/libs
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[16:03:39] <Inside> Ah - I'm using either sim.py or SimSharp for the simulation - I've got some command line simulations running already
[16:03:43] <Inside> I just don't know how to visualize them
[16:05:16] <Inside> Although NoFlo does look neat - I'll have to dig more into that too
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[16:06:45] <warweasle> pulse: Unleash the Weasels of War!
[16:07:06] <warweasle> Rivers will flow red with the blood of the unbelievers!
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[16:12:49] <brainzap> warweasle whats your status
[16:13:32] <warweasle> brainzap: I'm good. Still not a zombie or whatever people are afraid of.
[16:13:58] <Inside> you got the 'rona?
[16:14:07] <warweasle> I don't drink beer.
[16:14:11] <Inside> :P
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[16:41:26] <brainzap> valoran is wizards with guns? tom was on to something
[16:45:30] <DarkUranium> brainzap, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Magitek
[16:45:41] <DarkUranium> A common theme in Final Fantasy games, for example.
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[16:51:55] <brainzap> and in that cyberpunk universe I guess
[16:56:02] <DarkUranium> I think that's more "sufficiently advanced technology" than "magic+technology"
[16:56:21] <DarkUranium> Eberron (page's main picture) is a great example of magiteck.
[16:56:23] <DarkUranium> magitek*
[16:56:43] <DarkUranium> It's what happens when you got pretty good technology ... but also availability of fire elementals as a power source.
[16:58:03] <pulse> magic considered unsafe
[17:01:36] <brainzap> is three coffees a day too much?
[17:01:49] <pulse> yes
[17:02:51] <pulse> you should listen to wim hof and get high on your own supply
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[17:09:10] <brainzap> ah pulse why you do this, I need your mental support here
[17:11:53] <pulse> i envision a future where you walk into an office and instead of people drinking coffee they hyperventilate using the wim hof method
[17:12:12] <pulse> it will only look weird the first week in
[17:13:02] <brainzap> what office?
[17:13:12] <pulse> as the added bonus heating will become obsolete
[17:13:17] <pulse> everyone will just work in freezing cold
[17:13:22] <pulse> *the* office
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[17:36:03] <brainzap> hmm interesting some websites just provide woff2 fonts for now
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[18:15:28] <pulse> https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/fv415p/weird_train/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
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[18:22:10] <Hail_Satan> https://i.imgur.com/fWVQ8aG.jpg
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[18:45:51] <brainzap> Imagine people paying 1000$ to play your VR game
[18:46:24] <pulse> imagine people not playing all the obscure DOS titles instead
[18:46:48] <Prestige> It's 72 degrees outisde, I am baffled
[18:46:53] <Prestige> I never got a winter
[18:48:08] <pulse> 72 degrees, are you on mercury
[18:48:32] <brainzap> when I was young we had snow
[18:51:05] <Prestige> pulse: 72 degrees in the weird american way to measure temperature
[18:51:16] <pulse> ah
[18:51:27] <Prestige> 22.2 celsius
[18:51:32] <pulse> the arbitrary weirdo scale
[18:51:35] <Prestige> exactly
[18:51:46] <Prestige> We need a math bot in here
[18:52:02] <Prestige> Because pulling up a terminal to do that was too much work
[18:52:05] <pulse> as soon as a channel gets a bot, that's when everyone starts abusing it
[18:52:12] <pulse> ban all bots
[18:52:24] <Prestige> Alex8532: they're onto us
[18:52:49] <Alex8532> LOL
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[19:02:53] <Donitzo> yikes
[19:03:00] <wondows> a chat bot with AI would be cool
[19:03:01] <Donitzo> feedback noise in my bose qc20 ear
[19:03:11] <Donitzo> that would damage my hearing if I didn't pull it out
[19:03:45] <Donitzo> so what is the latest leading edge in-ear ANC headphones?
[19:03:54] <Donitzo> under 400 or so euro
[19:04:01] <zicada> a chat bit with AI that is interesting is VERY hard to make
[19:04:12] <Donitzo> I know, I'm doing it
[19:04:13] <zicada> you'd want to make it teachable somehow
[19:04:17] <Donitzo> I made an expert system instead
[19:04:20] <zicada> but what is teaching
[19:04:30] <zicada> it does not have a human brain
[19:04:31] <Donitzo> there are tons of packages for it on github
[19:04:43] <zicada> but people will treat it as though it does
[19:04:44] <Donitzo> some people for example used reddit replies to train a chatbot
[19:05:01] <Donitzo> but that's not real intelligence, just pattern matching
[19:05:03] <aindilis> I have some experience with AI chatbots, the research kind
[19:05:12] <zicada> unfortunately if you just have a simple model and people treat it like a human brain, they turn into dicks :D
[19:05:20] <wondows> isn't intelligence pattern matching?
[19:05:25] <zicada> may or may not be related to real social behavior :D
[19:05:29] <Donitzo> is the chinese room real intelligence?
[19:05:50] <aindilis> a friend of mine is writing one with a very serious basis
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[19:06:07] <Donitzo> I've argued that real intelligence doesn't start with a chatbot
[19:06:09] <Donitzo> language comes later
[19:06:13] <zicada> Donitzo: the chinese room is a thought experiment
[19:06:18] <wondows> I think natural intelligence is just artificial intelligence on steroids
[19:06:21] <Donitzo> it's a very practical experiment
[19:06:23] <pulse> AI: supposedly good
[19:06:24] <Donitzo> with a very real answer
[19:06:24] <wondows> it's simply more massive
[19:06:28] <aindilis> language is AI-complete though
[19:06:28] <pulse> NPC in brand new game: gets stuck on rock
[19:06:35] <zicada> its a very precise expriment too
[19:06:46] <gamelaw> Funny to watch the press mesmorized by these multi-decade old zombie simulators re-labeled as virus simulators.
[19:06:49] <aindilis> and with all the natural language on the internet, it's a very fruitful domain to release an AI for
[19:07:06] <wondows> it's simply a system that got so complex that it looks self aware
[19:07:11] <Donitzo> anyway. An AI would probably have to start with having some pre-defined goals
[19:07:13] <Donitzo> and ability to learn
[19:07:18] <aindilis> Here is the semantic parser: https://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/projects/E2C.txt
[19:07:20] <Donitzo> what is the goal of just making a chatbot
[19:07:23] <pulse> wondows, so a p-zombie
[19:07:30] <zicada> heheh
[19:07:49] <Donitzo> I mean, without evolutionary pressure, why would an AI form at all
[19:07:57] <gamelaw> Just don't pawn of a nereualnet system as Machine Learning - there's WAY too much of that going around.
[19:09:20] <aindilis> Donitzo: my friend's chatbot is for implementing an inner monologue for an AGI
[19:09:24] <zicada> you create your pressure in the program though
[19:09:25] <Prestige> am I the only one here that consistently fails the new captchas where they have you pick images of things?
[19:09:29] <zicada> its part of the model
[19:09:51] <zicada> you generate a model in which there is sufficient pressure and so son
[19:09:55] <zicada> cause-effect
[19:09:59] <pulse> Prestige, i just click them in a L-pattern and it works 60% of the time
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[19:10:23] <zicada> somebody is overthinking something
[19:10:24] <Donitzo> yes
[19:10:27] <pulse> AI will never work because humans are magic
[19:10:41] <Donitzo> Now how do you define the pressure leading to the forming of a general intelligence?
[19:10:43] <pulse> simple observation that solves all philosophical problems
[19:10:56] <Donitzo> how do you define a fitness function/goal
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[19:10:58] <zicada> pulse: hah, maybe it will only work by virtue of humans being magic
[19:11:06] <zicada> can you prove that wrong ?
[19:11:07] <aindilis> zicada: nice
[19:11:09] <pulse> well, i don't know if magic is transitive
[19:11:14] <wondows> pulse it's all chemistry
[19:11:22] <Donitzo> so is computers
[19:11:30] <pulse> wondows, so you trust chemicals to tell you they are chemicals
[19:11:30] <Prestige> Technically it's all physics
[19:11:33] <pulse> ^_^
[19:11:34] <zicada> yeah what even is magic
[19:11:36] <wondows> life is chemistry
[19:11:39] <aindilis> A - ai cannot work because the human mind is infinite. B - if the human mind is infinite, it can invent an ai
[19:11:41] <Donitzo> technically all chemistry is physics
[19:11:43] <Donitzo> and all physics is math
[19:11:44] <Prestige> ^
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[19:11:47] <Donitzo> so mathematicians rule all
[19:11:47] <pulse> i disagree with all that's being said
[19:11:51] <pulse> life is clearly an illusion
[19:12:14] <wondows> do you believe in god or some shit
[19:12:25] <pulse> not really
[19:12:36] <Donitzo> would be nice is it existed
[19:12:37] <pulse> i believe in an omnipresent field - a force, one could say
[19:12:43] <Donitzo> but I'm more hoping we will be able to create a god
[19:12:49] <Donitzo> once we build a machine so smart to break reality
[19:12:49] <aindilis> math is really useful imho for ai. you can think of problem solving as "theorem proving."
[19:13:11] <pulse> math is useful for math stuff, it's utterly useless for human stuff
[19:13:23] <Donitzo> excuse me, I was counting pies
[19:13:24] <pulse> if you've got stomach pain math can't help you can it
[19:13:31] <wondows> pythagoras theorem is useful
[19:13:33] <aindilis> au contraire
[19:14:41] <wondows> all the high school and college math they say is useless... I use it on a daily basis
[19:14:49] <aindilis> (I'm writing a life planner that uses theorem proving to solve problems including stomach pain)
[19:15:15] <pulse> i'm not denying math usefulness but it has it's own domain of usefulness
[19:15:26] <pulse> aindilis, what about a broken heart, can math calculate that? ;)
[19:15:30] <aindilis> yup
[19:15:33] <pulse> oh dear
[19:15:47] <aindilis> think logic, like defeasible, nonmonotonic, default, doxastic, deontic, epistemic, paraconsistent, etc. all the logic involved in commonsense reasoning
[19:15:53] <pulse> blah, blah blah
[19:16:03] <pulse> once you have a broken heart all that words become as meaningless as snow in june
[19:16:08] <Donitzo> math can ultimately calculate everything
[19:16:15] <aindilis> calculemus
[19:16:15] <Donitzo> except *grumble*
[19:16:19] <Donitzo> those damn quantum physicists
[19:16:19] <pulse> that's just plain wrong too xD
[19:16:23] <Donitzo> ruining all the fun
[19:16:24] <Donitzo> assholes
[19:16:59] <pulse> science for all it's worth is very good at answering very complex, nuanced, detailed questions
[19:17:04] <pulse> but completely fails at answering the simplest possible questions
[19:17:09] <pulse> no math can help you there
[19:17:17] <pulse> hence, thousands of years of philosophy
[19:17:32] <aindilis> argument clinic
[19:17:36] <wondows> what's a broken heart?
[19:17:54] <pulse> wondows, generally happens after a relationship breakup
[19:18:03] <Donitzo> a withdrawal symptom in the brain
[19:18:07] <aindilis> wondows: unrequited love, death, etc
[19:18:07] <pulse> lol
[19:18:09] <pulse> you guys are so material
[19:18:11] <Donitzo> usually happening after the high of a relationship wears off
[19:18:16] <pulse> yeah, that's what it is
[19:18:17] <pulse> xD
[19:18:27] <pulse> totally not a subjective experience with all sorts of richness
[19:18:31] <pulse> nah let's demote it to a chemical interplay
[19:18:32] <brainzap> I can not defeat the Battle net captcha WTF
[19:18:43] <aindilis> pulse: strawman
[19:18:43] <Donitzo> relationships have a very real psysical effect on the brain
[19:18:49] <Donitzo> like the high of drugs
[19:18:49] <Hail_Satan> oxytocin comes from relationships
[19:19:00] <pulse> aindilis, more like a difference in philosophy
[19:19:03] <Hail_Satan> thats why my friends and I hug
[19:19:05] <brainzap> endolphins come from working out
[19:19:20] <wondows> becoming a rational being fixes a broken heart
[19:19:24] <pulse> yeah, right
[19:19:27] <pulse> lol
[19:19:33] <pulse> things you hear on internet
[19:19:52] <aindilis> the logic of emotions: https://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/emotions/
[19:19:54] <wondows> emotions are stupid
[19:20:01] <pulse> maybe but they're there
[19:20:12] <pulse> sometimes they're way stonger than your feeble rational thinking machinery
[19:20:24] <aindilis> false dichotomy
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[19:20:33] <pulse> aindilis, no, a difference in philosophy
[19:20:33] <wondows> to me the very definition of stupidity is choosing emotion over reason
[19:20:44] <pulse> aindilis, i find physicialism naive and broken
[19:20:45] <Donitzo> in a way it's kinda pointless to analyze the very emotions of humans
[19:20:50] <pulse> bad line of reasoning
[19:20:56] <Donitzo> once we start seeing us as nothing but meat machines, things lose its magic
[19:20:59] <aindilis> I'm not arguing for physicalism :)
[19:21:01] <pulse> which somehow managed to infect all of modern civilization
[19:21:21] <Donitzo> I've seen a lot of pessemistic radical atheists arguing that everything is pointless and we are just waiting to die
[19:21:27] <Donitzo> that's really going too far
[19:21:27] <Donitzo> imo
[19:21:33] <aindilis> anyway, someone said, when I appear the party dies, I don't want to continue that trend, I want to do something fun
[19:21:39] <wondows> everytime someone does something stupid you can come to the conclusion that they let emotion take over reason
[19:21:49] <gamelaw> Quote of the Day: The people who write the code also get to write the bugs!
[19:21:58] <pulse> wondows, but you can claim the opposite too. many great discoveries, inventions etc. are due to emotion too
[19:22:06] <pulse> it's what makes us human
[19:22:09] <pulse> otherwise we'd be robots
[19:22:29] <pulse> the fact that you have a drive as a human being is literally why you keep on living
[19:22:38] <Prestige> gamelaw: it's secretly how programmers keep themselves employed
[19:22:40] <pulse> a robot would just accept the overburdening nihilism and commit sudoku
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