March 30, 2019 
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March 30, 2019 [00:00:28] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:05:55] <pulse> i expected an image of a cute dog[00:06:02] <pulse> i got long lines of C++ instead[00:06:22] <pulse> that's gotta break the 80 limit a few times over :D[00:06:35] <pulse> i kid[00:06:42] <mijowh> i was thinking the same thing[00:07:43] <[rg]> hello[00:07:47] <pulse> ahoy there[00:08:00] <[rg]> anyone familiar with java here?[00:08:05] <pulse> of course[00:08:14] <pulse> mostly everyone here is a certified java expert[00:08:30] <pulse> [rg], just ask :D[00:08:38] <mijowh> meh, im actually not that familiar with java[00:08:49] <[rg]> ok nice, i've been messing about trying to figure out tetris in java and so far I have a good idea[00:08:51] <pulse> mijowh, do a project in java[00:09:00] <pulse> it's good for the brain[00:09:03] <[rg]> trying to test movement now but nothing happens[00:09:05] <mijowh> could probably pick it up if i felt the inclination, its not like its that dif from other langs[00:09:11] <[rg]> mijowh: yeah thats why i am doing it[00:09:29] <[rg]> er, pulse^[00:09:30] <pulse> [rg], what framework for rendering?[00:09:34] <R2robot> libgdx?[00:09:34] <[rg]> awt[00:09:47] <R2robot> eww[00:09:49] <[rg]> oh, forgot to post code, one sec[00:10:06] <pulse> hmm i never used awt[00:10:32] <DarkUranium> LunarJetman, what's that again? Your language?[00:13:14] <[rg]> https://git.sr.ht/~ric_sc_gr/Tetris/tree/master/src/Tetris.java[00:13:25] <[rg]> revelant methods at :121[00:13:36] <[rg]> and :31[00:14:48] <pulse> [rg], i have no idea but maybe also try ##java[00:15:05] <pulse> [rg], is the key event code working?[00:15:14] <[rg]> ok, ill give them a look[00:15:31] *** freestyledork is now known as freefork_afk[00:15:37] <[rg]> i think so but ill try some debug[00:16:28] <pulse> [rg], why is your keyboard event code in your Piece class[00:16:29] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has joined #gamedev[00:16:33] <pulse> seems like an antipattern[00:16:51] <pulse> keyboard event should be on the outer layers of the game[00:18:10] <[rg]> keyboard event is very specific to piece, thats why I did that, but I could move it to canvas when I refactor[00:22:18] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:38d1:97a9:82a8:d583> has quit IRC (Quit: The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing)[00:23:29] *** _DB <_DB!68375605@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.55.86.5> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:25:18] *** unlimiter <unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.238.64> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[00:34:26] <[rg]> ah well, another time[00:34:32] <[rg]> have a good weekend dudes[00:34:38] *** [rg] <[rg]!~ricardo@67-204-254-48.eastlink.ca> has left #gamedev[00:35:51] *** streamline <streamline!uid333620@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssbfsbnifikqmdnr> has joined #gamedev[00:41:00] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[00:43:39] <LunarJetman> DarkUranium: universal compiler.[01:12:49] *** unlimiter <unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.238.64> has joined #gamedev[01:20:47] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has quit IRC (Quit: the cheetahmen ran off... and now ... the cheetahmen)[01:21:55] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:23:14] <LastTalon> I have pictures of dogs.[01:25:20] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:25:48] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has joined #gamedev[01:30:44] <DarkUranium> I have pictures of cats.[01:30:56] <LastTalon> I also have pictures of bunnies.[01:40:08] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has joined #gamedev[01:41:39] <baudejogos> I have pictures of my dick[01:41:46] * baudejogos wins[01:49:51] <LastTalon> You wish.[01:54:15] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:55:12] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has joined #gamedev[02:02:15] *** unlimiter <unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.238.64> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[02:10:09] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@cpe-98-145-151-187.natnow.res.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[02:10:53] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #gamedev[02:10:59] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@cpe-98-145-151-187.natnow.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:16:18] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:16:42] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #gamedev[02:17:20] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:20:04] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #gamedev[02:23:14] *** trit <trit!~trit@pool-100-36-33-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:42:06] *** refs <refs!~refs@dslb-178-005-233-031.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: refs)[02:49:40] *** CarlaoBazuca <CarlaoBazuca!istupy@nat/google/x-haxfvdkyzrzojttx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:56:05] *** Christofosho <Christofosho!~christofo@unaffiliated/christofosho> has joined #gamedev[02:56:34] <Christofosho> Does it matter whether I use rel or non-rel?[03:06:05] *** bildramer <bildramer!~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:07:08] *** bildramer <bildramer!~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9> has joined #gamedev[03:21:37] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[03:29:59] <Tylak> I found a Game Jam Tips document I create a while ago: https://pastebin.com/sJPHeCdX[03:32:31] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[03:33:57] *** Christofosho <Christofosho!~christofo@unaffiliated/christofosho> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:41:21] <mijowh> ive thought about doing gamejam[03:42:46] <R2robot> call me crazy, but I just don't get the appeal of game jams[03:42:57] <mijowh> havent cause its slightly intimidating in a way, having a deadline or other restrictions. theres a sense that "what if i cant make something good, or its not finished in time" so i havent tried[03:43:43] <R2robot> I think those deadlines and restrictions can sometimes foster creativity, but I don't need that kind of stress and anxiety. :D[03:44:30] <Tylak> I'm usually too busy to Game Jam. But when i get free time, it's a great exercise.[03:46:08] <myke> i used to do game jams but yeah it doesn't seem like a good use of time any more[03:46:12] <myke> everyone wants you to look at their game[03:46:20] <myke> better to just do a proof of concept outside of a game jam[03:47:37] <Tylak> hey myke[03:48:00] <Tylak> I've done about 20 proof of concepts for every 1 shipped game.[03:48:14] <Tylak> and proof of concept takes a long time[03:48:33] <R2robot> yeah, I have a few POCs sitting on my phone waiting to be further developed[03:49:54] <Tylak> hmmm thinking, that is 40, and I shipped 2. so yeah[03:50:10] <R2robot> the math checks out :D[03:50:15] <Tylak> heh[03:50:17] <R2robot> Tylak: what games have you shipped?[03:50:57] <Tylak> R2robot: http://tylakgamedev.blogspot.com/p/games_5.html[03:52:33] <R2robot> hmm[03:52:47] <R2robot> you said there were 2, but there are like 15 games here. :P[03:53:12] <Tylak> Only two in that list were my own games.[03:53:27] <Tylak> And I shipped some more that were, like edu-games, and other things[03:53:46] <Tylak> I should update it[03:56:09] <notchris> hmm[03:56:59] <Tylak> Martian Panic and Air Mail were my original games[03:57:39] <Tylak> crazy amount of effort in those, and I needed a dev company and publisher for them to get out[03:58:18] <Tylak> I've got another 3 or 5 games I personally want to complete before death[04:03:24] <Tylak> Titles are: Gnomes, Termination Sequence, My Star Landed, Death March, and Glitch Machine.[04:03:45] <Tylak> All of which I have posted here at some point in time.[04:04:21] <Tylak> Games take years of your life.[04:04:41] <mijowh> yep[04:04:55] <mijowh> ill make one. one of these days[04:05:03] <mijowh> good on you for actually shipping stuff[04:05:10] <Tylak> wish you luck^[04:05:42] <Tylak> thanks[04:06:20] <Tylak> Also Air Mail 2, which I took to a pre-alpha. But I need serious funds to make these things.[04:06:35] <myke> how far did you get on my star landed?[04:06:53] <Tylak> myke: full alpha, but never had final art for the alien.[04:07:11] <Tylak> it's playable on PS4, about 90 minutes to complete.[04:07:38] <Tylak> ran out of money, so back to contract dev[04:09:05] <Tylak> I have a pre-alpha trailer, lemme see if I can find it[04:11:35] *** [Relic] <[Relic]!~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:2476:8a1:b6:9617> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:12:31] <Tylak> omg I cannot navigate youtube anymore, I have 3 accounts[04:13:43] <mijowh> delete all three[04:15:44] <Tylak> I think I got it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQSTth3NzY&feature=youtu.be[04:18:05] <mijowh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHosLhPEN3k[04:19:48] <mijowh> that was like one of the 3 videos ive liked on youtube. 0 uploads. no subs. ive had an account since 2011[04:19:57] <mijowh> they know too much about me[04:23:55] *** perplexity <perplexity!~perplexed@unaffiliated/perplexity> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:37:36] <R2robot> why not make smaller games that are within your budget? :D[04:43:17] *** diwr <diwr!~diwr@unaffiliated/diwr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:57:58] <Tylak> R2robot: good advice. Difficult in practice.[04:59:57] <Tylak> I'll cite my own advice: "Think small.[04:59:58] <Tylak> Ambition is the double-edged sword of game development on projects of all sizes. If we weren't ambitious we would never make anything great. But ambition is also a project-killer, causing us to pursue dead ends and ultimately deliver an unfinished or inferior product. The most successful game jam games tend to do one thing, and do it really well."[05:03:30] *** LunarJetman <LunarJetman!LunarJetma@5ec16e1a.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[05:03:48] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:11:58] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:30:25] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[05:38:08] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[05:39:37] *** moongazer <moongazer!~moongazer@unaffiliated/moongazer> has joined #gamedev[05:41:27] <moongazer> Hi[05:41:46] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:42:09] <myke> that looks great tylak[05:52:47] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has joined #gamedev[05:53:23] <Tylak> thanks myke! I really want to finish this game ;)[05:58:01] *** realtime <realtime!~root@unaffiliated/realtime> has joined #gamedev[05:58:29] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:9dc4:9f51:1271:8d49> has joined #gamedev[06:29:16] *** rewind__ <rewind__!~rewind@2a01:e35:87d1:600:148d:587e:9ade:8c03> has joined #gamedev[06:32:33] *** rewind_ <rewind_!~rewind@2a01:e35:87d1:600:148d:587e:9ade:8c03> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[07:00:44] <rocky1138> Things go boom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79kbanSIFVc[07:13:56] <circuitbone> for too long[07:14:07] <circuitbone> nice however.[07:14:31] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:14:32] <Prestige> what's up everyone?[07:15:22] <Tylak> it's past my bed time[07:35:15] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[07:37:21] <R2robot> Nice boomage, rocky1138[08:06:42] *** Kelzorz <Kelzorz!~Kelzorz@162.104.220.155> has quit IRC (Quit: 0x80)[08:17:17] *** NiniGeo2 <NiniGeo2!~DragonGeo@47.157.89.138> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:17:30] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[08:28:11] *** NiniGeo2 <NiniGeo2!~DragonGeo@47.157.89.138> has joined #gamedev[08:42:19] *** pulse} <pulse}!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has joined #gamedev[09:00:11] <pulse}> i hate updates[09:00:15] <pulse}> every program i run[09:00:20] <pulse}> NEW VERSION AVAILABLE UPDATE NAO[09:00:41] <pulse}> this is why we can't have nice things[09:01:01] <Prestige> lol why don't u like updates tho pulse}[09:01:44] <pulse}> idk it irks me[09:01:59] <pulse}> gives me OCD[09:02:16] <Prestige> package managers are a godsend tbh[09:02:28] <pulse}> i guess[09:02:31] <pulse}> but they don't solve the other problem[09:02:41] <pulse}> program changes overnight[09:02:42] <pulse}> lol[09:03:30] <Prestige> ah like switching up UIs and shit?[09:03:33] <Prestige> that can get annoying[09:04:05] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[09:04:36] <pulse}> i think if i unplugged from internet it would boost my productivity by about 36%[09:05:05] <NiniGeo2> That's a good amount.[09:09:20] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[09:25:13] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@178.197.227.235> has joined #gamedev[09:33:00] *** skelic2 <skelic2!~momozor@unaffiliated/skelic2> has joined #gamedev[09:42:23] <brainzap> good morning beautiful EU developers[09:42:40] <pulse}> hello and good morning[09:45:18] <brainzap> oh hello sir, did you sleep well[09:46:39] <pulse}> somewhat[09:52:51] <brainzap> What are you up to today pulse}[09:52:59] <brainzap> btw I like your new mustache[09:53:06] <pulse}> the same thing i'm up to every day, pinky[09:53:12] <pulse}> dev games and game devs[09:53:15] <pulse}> brainzap, thanks[09:53:42] <pulse}> i'm trying to figure out if i want to add controller support to my game[09:54:34] <pulse}> a lot of weird code[09:54:40] <brainzap> If there is a turnkey solution[09:54:46] <brainzap> for like xbox controllers[09:55:03] <pulse}> you can map the steam controller to keyboard pretty easily[09:55:04] <pulse}> idk about xbox[09:55:18] <pulse}> hmm[09:57:55] *** BrahRah <BrahRah!~BrahRah@84.16.226.14> has joined #gamedev[10:03:27] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.126.110.21> has joined #gamedev[10:06:50] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:2dea:adad:d8bf:c65c> has joined #gamedev[10:13:59] *** shlomif <shlomif!~rindolf@77.126.11.172> has joined #gamedev[10:15:02] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.126.110.21> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:18:14] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@178.197.227.235> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[10:47:40] <Donitzo> "getTransform"[10:47:45] <Donitzo> Execuse me? wtf regpack[10:48:04] <Donitzo> how did setTransform turn into getTransform[10:50:24] <Donitzo> for (i in c) c[i[1]+[i[4]]] = i; c is a context2d. then setTransform is used by c[c.er](...)[10:50:31] <Donitzo> someone explain how that works[10:51:57] *** code_zombie <code_zombie!~code_zomb@2605:a601:aa1:da00:994e:a24f:9d89:be6f> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:55:26] <Donitzo> oh derp[10:55:34] <Donitzo> it's using two letters from the name[10:55:45] <Donitzo> sEtTRansform[10:55:54] <Donitzo> but chrome also has a gEtTRansform[10:56:13] <Donitzo> good job[10:57:52] <Donitzo> my idea of implementing a regex getter in the object prototype was better :P[11:03:33] *** adamsky <adamsky!~quassel@178235186216.unknown.vectranet.pl> has joined #gamedev[11:08:27] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@cpe-98-145-151-187.natnow.res.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[11:13:34] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@cpe-98-145-151-187.natnow.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[11:21:44] *** skelic2 <skelic2!~momozor@unaffiliated/skelic2> has quit IRC 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connection)[14:43:55] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #gamedev[14:47:22] *** rogerroger2019 <rogerroger2019!daddyshark@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/daddyshark2019> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:48:47] <Glasstree> Hi, I've just downloaded godot[14:49:03] <Glasstree> I downloaded it once before but didn't get around to doing anything with it[14:49:25] <Glasstree> Now I'm running this on Windows 10 and it seems as though there's a couple of problems[14:49:37] <Glasstree> The first problem is that it doesn't handle scaling[14:50:13] <Glasstree> I'm viewing this on a high resolution monitor, so the demo browsing page is too small[14:50:59] <Glasstree> The second problem is that demos don't download because the expected hash doesn't match what is retrieved: And empty hash[14:51:25] <Glasstree> An empty hash*[14:52:14] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:52:21] <Glasstree> It might be my antivirus software actually[14:57:56] <sebbu> bad AV change AV[15:00:50] <Glasstree> Yea now it works[15:01:16] <Glasstree> And the light theme makes it easier to see[15:04:35] *** blackpawn <blackpawn!blackpawn@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/blackpawn> has joined #gamedev[15:05:51] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:2dea:adad:d8bf:c65c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:08:55] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:10:53] <R2robot> there is also a #godotengine channel[15:20:08] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:91f3:9ec8:6684:f9a2> has joined #gamedev[15:29:57] <Glasstree> Thanks[15:51:03] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[16:11:00] *** LunarJetman <LunarJetman!LunarJetma@5ec16e1a.skybroadband.com> has joined #gamedev[16:12:54] <LunarJetman> Ambition is a good thing. I plan on destroying Qt, Unity and UE. I am making a universal compiler that can compile any programming language.[16:13:20] <LunarJetman> there is a fine line between ambition and crazyness though.[16:18:03] *** Glasstree <Glasstree!~Glasstree@cpc136882-bsfd10-2-0-cust495.5-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:19:27] <Donitzo> https://js1k.com/2019-x/demo/4253[16:19:49] <Donitzo> how did he manage to get all the pretty shapes[16:21:15] <LunarJetman> those sounds fx all sound a bit samey[16:24:57] <Donitzo> probably only used sinewaves[16:25:17] <Donitzo> some vibrato and a simple ADSR envelope or something like that[16:25:42] <Donitzo> oh wait, I think that's noise mixed in[16:25:48] <Donitzo> the bizarre sswwwssh sound[16:26:48] <Donitzo> I've submitted my fishy demo[16:27:48] <Donitzo> though it's pretty clear who the winner is already[16:27:55] <Donitzo> WARNING headphone users https://js1k.com/2019-x/demo/4128[16:29:07] <Donitzo> how the hell do you get that in 1 k[16:30:05] <LunarJetman> 1k isn't that much[16:30:10] <baudejogos> :)[16:30:12] <baudejogos> nice[16:30:21] <baudejogos> Amiga feelings[16:30:51] <LunarJetman> you could compress a fair amount of GLSL code down to 1k[16:33:18] <Donitzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqnZH7Pa3vo[16:34:17] *** [Relic] <[Relic]!~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:71b8:ee5b:8b17:15ff> has joined #gamedev[16:36:02] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has joined #gamedev[16:38:59] *** Buoy172 <Buoy172!~Buoy172@95.86.6.187> has joined #gamedev[16:40:00] <LunarJetman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjYQeMExIwk[16:41:19] <Donitzo> I prefer second reality[16:42:08] <Donitzo> you know, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nefmlQDmW2U[16:47:07] <brainzap> some of Donitzo jokes you only get when doing LSD[16:47:43] <Donitzo> I want to try LSD[16:47:51] <Donitzo> but I don't want to deal with drug dealers[16:51:58] <Donitzo> good, mouse died[16:52:14] <Donitzo> after I plugged in the charger[16:52:28] <baudejogos> that's what you deserve to pull this crappy drug talking here[16:58:16] <Donitzo> ah, there we go[16:58:19] <Donitzo> just had to plug it back in[17:05:01] <LunarJetman> drugs? I used to do ecstacy. bad move.[17:11:04] <brainzap> drugs? I used to do mobas[17:11:50] <Donitzo> I just do vanilla alcohol and caffeine[17:11:57] <Donitzo> like, not the flavour vanilla[17:12:03] <Donitzo> although vanilla flavoured alcohol is nice[17:15:26] <LunarJetman> these days I do prosecco, beer and gin.[17:15:49] <LunarJetman> and caffeine of course[17:15:50] <Donitzo> I used to like wine until I started counting calories[17:17:58] <LunarJetman> jaffa cakes and lion bars are my other two vices.[17:18:29] <brainzap> chocolate and white bread[17:18:52] <brainzap> alc and caf goes on the brain[17:20:52] <LunarJetman> oh my biggest caffeine vice is Pepsi Max.[17:21:23] <R2robot> https://opengameart.org/content/700-rpg-icons[17:22:35] <Donitzo> god damn love lion bars[17:22:44] <Donitzo> especially white lion[17:23:07] <Donitzo> pepsi doesn't have enough caffeine for my tastes[17:24:17] <LunarJetman> I used to drink a lot of Red Bull[17:24:28] <LunarJetman> usually with vodka[17:25:50] <Donitzo> you know what they say about caffeine and alcohol[17:25:53] <Donitzo> they make excellent drinks[17:25:59] <Donitzo> and something about heart attacks[17:26:22] <LunarJetman> everyone dies[17:26:56] <Donitzo> well, time to go seeding[17:27:00] <Donitzo> a bunch of plants[17:27:08] <Donitzo> I have this huge tower of pots[17:28:28] *** Kelzorz <Kelzorz!~Kelzorz@162.104.220.155> has joined #gamedev[17:30:03] *** Orion] <Orion]!~H0i@unaffiliated/orion/x-3970838> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:31:14] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has joined #gamedev[17:37:10] *** knops <knops!~yannick@ip-62-143-84-11.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:39:13] *** aly777 <aly777!~kes777@50-242-177-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:42:29] *** Buoy172 <Buoy172!~Buoy172@95.86.6.187> has quit IRC ()[18:01:51] *** Orion] <Orion]!~H0i@unaffiliated/orion/x-3970838> has joined #gamedev[18:48:19] *** shlomif <shlomif!~rindolf@77.127.95.222> has joined #gamedev[18:49:26] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.126.11.172> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:50:43] *** BlueProtoman <BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@2604:2000:1404:c1f7:78e4:c09a:3be7:ca2a> has joined #gamedev[18:51:59] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone suggest a simple HTTP-powered web service (ideally, one available as a pre-cooked Docker container) that'll collect and store any text my app sends to it? During the development process, I want to keep console output for my game around for a little while[19:05:03] *** shlomif is now known as rindolf[19:19:58] <brainzap> php can do that[19:26:37] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[19:35:57] *** _DB <_DB!6ccefbd9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.206.251.217> has joined #gamedev[19:39:23] *** adamsky <adamsky!~quassel@178235186244.unknown.vectranet.pl> has joined #gamedev[19:47:17] *** _DB <_DB!6ccefbd9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.206.251.217> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:54:41] <BlueProtoman> I'll look for log management software later. But for now...[19:54:46] <BlueProtoman> I'm seeking feedback and critique on a game I'm developing. I'd love to hear about how I can improve it, or on what you think I'm doing well. You can play it on Windows, macOS, or Linux. Any thoughts? https://bit.ly/2WBt4zz[19:56:51] <solidfox> BlueProtoman, we arent gonna fall for that[19:57:09] <BlueProtoman> solidfox: What do you mean?[19:57:26] <solidfox> thats obviously a virus[19:57:29] <BlueProtoman> Oh, I see. Yes, I can see how it would look sketchy.[19:57:37] <solidfox> ...[19:57:44] <BlueProtoman> How can I convince you it's not?[19:57:59] <solidfox> you can't.[19:58:01] <BlueProtoman> Here, I'll get a screenshot[19:58:24] <solidfox> that is 100% a virus, i'm not saying that tentatively[19:59:45] <BlueProtoman> This is the underlying link https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=kZNYj67ZyGkwctdB1ikrYaYzDnlquHTwzElV[20:00:09] <BlueProtoman> I'm not sure what else I can say, other than I stand by my claim of legitimacy.[20:00:53] <BlueProtoman> Someone in another channel is suggesting I host it on itch.io, would that be more acceptable?[20:07:29] <rindolf> solidfox: hi, sup?[20:07:50] *** skelic2 <skelic2!~momozor@unaffiliated/skelic2> has joined #gamedev[20:07:53] <skelic2> ls[20:08:15] <rindolf> skelic2: hi[20:12:50] <skelic2> hi[20:13:20] <solidfox> rindolf, not much[20:13:23] <rindolf> skelic2: sup?[20:13:46] <rindolf> solidfox: ah[20:13:48] *** _DB <_DB!6ccefbd9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.206.251.217> has joined #gamedev[20:16:44] <solidfox> rindolf, gtg, have a nice day[20:16:50] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:17:42] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has joined #gamedev[20:18:31] <skelic2> just visiting random irc rooms[20:20:58] *** skelic2 <skelic2!~momozor@unaffiliated/skelic2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:41:18] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:44:12] <brainzap> me too[20:44:39] <LunarJetman> all irc rooms and random[20:44:44] <LunarJetman> all irc rooms are random[20:45:52] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has joined #gamedev[20:52:43] <circuitbone> BlueProtoman: https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=kZNYj67ZyGkwctdB1ikrYaYzDnlquHTwzElV[20:52:53] <circuitbone> This looks safe[20:53:10] <circuitbone> https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/bd26ff822d4746c215a5ec254e370ff775af99cf4742a8bf411c5009ac680736/detection[20:53:43] <BlueProtoman> circuitbone: Here's a nicer-looking link. https://jessetg.itch.io/chromavaders[20:54:01] <BlueProtoman> Probably should've opened with that one instead[20:54:04] <circuitbone> Not at a desktop at the moment. Will check later.[20:54:18] <BlueProtoman> Okay. Not a problem.[20:56:30] <R2robot> RED FLAG[20:59:08] <brainzap> your macos export did not work[20:59:35] <R2robot> yes it did. trojan/virus[20:59:41] <R2robot> RIP[21:00:10] <brainzap> stop being puss R2robot[21:00:12] <brainzap> double click it[21:00:13] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: that chromavaders is a Unity game: 69 DLLs totalling 30MB. I am so going to destroy Unity.[21:00:20] <R2robot> ok, brb[21:00:26] <R2robot> going to prove muh manhood[21:00:33] <R2robot> annnnnd, i'm in fected[21:00:35] <R2robot> FML[21:00:38] <brainzap> hf reinstalling windows[21:00:48] <R2robot> i'm on mac :D[21:00:52] <baudejogos> even worse[21:01:00] <R2robot> you spelled better wrong[21:01:32] <baudejogos> mac is a lie[21:01:42] <baudejogos> good hardware, horrible OS[21:01:49] <BlueProtoman> LunarJetman: I'm as annoyed about it as you are. There are ways I can get the filesize down but I'm not focusing on that yet.[21:01:55] <circuitbone> Horrible hardware , good os[21:02:08] <brainzap> good hardware in 2016, good os in 2016[21:02:10] <LunarJetman> BlueProtoman: I'm not annoyed about it because I am going to destroy Unity.[21:02:14] <baudejogos> BSD is a good os. macos is something...bad[21:02:39] <baudejogos> you gonna erase unity from your hard drive?[21:02:53] <LunarJetman> I am going to put Unity out of business[21:02:54] <circuitbone> baudejogos: what is your most popular game title?[21:03:05] <R2robot> Rocket Butt[21:03:19] <baudejogos> circuitbone: Heroes of Might and Magic III[21:03:29] <circuitbone> You made that game?[21:03:32] <R2robot> lol[21:03:34] <baudejogos> I played it like hell[21:03:59] <LunarJetman> I am going to destroy Qt, Unity and UE.[21:04:32] <baudejogos> LunarJetman, the destroyed[21:04:35] <circuitbone> baudejogos: what game of yours can I play online now?[21:04:50] <baudejogos> circuitbone: do you have a machine running MS-DOS ?[21:05:05] <baudejogos> my only windows game I yet have to publish to steam[21:05:07] <BlueProtoman> LunarJetman: Have fun. Let me know when you're done.[21:05:09] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:05:13] <baudejogos> but I have a bunch of fun MS-DOS games[21:05:18] <baudejogos> and one win 3.11 game[21:05:43] <circuitbone> No online titles at the moment?[21:06:07] <baudejogos> none that I am aware of (unless some of my students published something that use my libs)[21:06:20] <baudejogos> circuitbone: there are some MS-DOS games in the net[21:06:35] <LunarJetman> students? lol.[21:06:48] <baudejogos> but online... I don't think so. I had a gameserver once, but I think they took it down[21:07:05] <baudejogos> my gameserver implemented 8 different games. it was online since 2000[21:07:26] <brainzap> nice, someone has to provide them[21:07:30] <LunarJetman> BlueProtoman: I am already 80% of the way to destroying Qt.[21:07:41] <baudejogos> he is charging a kamehameha[21:08:00] <brainzap> the last 20% is 80%[21:08:07] *** shlomif <shlomif!~rindolf@77.127.58.102> has joined #gamedev[21:08:10] <baudejogos> brainzap: story of my life[21:08:27] <brainzap> baudejogos: what are you doing these dasys?[21:08:43] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.127.95.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:08:58] * brainzap has a faulty apple keybboard and thats why he types multiple bbs sometimes[21:08:59] <baudejogos> brainzap: improving my dumb game engine. I am almost finishing a single level of the game[21:13:09] <R2robot> the last 10% is 90% :D[21:13:58] <R2robot> i finished the last of the code related tasks on my list this morning. \o/[21:14:21] <R2robot> now mostly just finalizing graphics. :([21:14:56] <brainzap> that is good progress[21:16:01] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #gamedev[21:25:37] <baudejogos> I am writing dumb code for a MVC pattern[21:28:34] <brainzap> MVC in 2019?[21:30:25] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[21:35:33] *** streamline <streamline!uid333620@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssbfsbnifikqmdnr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:37:33] <LunarJetman> brainzap: MVC as a general concept is still valid in 2019.[21:38:42] <LunarJetman> seperating model from presentation of model is a good thing[21:39:29] <brainzap> it depends on the spec[21:39:34] <LunarJetman> spec?[21:39:40] <brainzap> dont force solutions onto my problem please[21:39:48] <brainzap> my probblem forces solutions onto you[21:39:51] <LunarJetman> you are talking crap[21:40:06] <LunarJetman> or chatting shit[21:40:12] <LunarJetman> or bullshitting[21:40:16] <LunarJetman> pick one[21:40:39] <brainzap> I pick not doing MVC[21:40:48] <LunarJetman> then you are clueless.[21:41:01] <LastTalon> LunarJetman, what is your engine called?[21:41:12] <LunarJetman> neogfx[21:41:25] <LastTalon> Wasn't that your thing that was going to kill qt?[21:41:31] <LunarJetman> it will do yes[21:41:35] <LastTalon> It does botH/[21:42:02] <LunarJetman> neogfx will turn qt into dust.[21:42:18] <LastTalon> What if I don't need it to do both? Are there more lightweight versions?[21:42:22] <LastTalon> Or will there be rather?[21:42:34] <LunarJetman> both?[21:43:12] <LastTalon> A gui framework and a game framework.[21:43:38] <LunarJetman> by gui I assume you mean app[21:43:43] <LunarJetman> using widgets is entirely optional[21:44:13] <LastTalon> But is there a more lightweight version of the library so I don't need to include everything I'm not using?[21:44:27] <LunarJetman> you don't include things you are not using.[21:44:45] <LastTalon> Why does it feel like you're avoiding my question?[21:45:29] <LunarJetman> if you are asking if there are separate git repositories for what could considered vaguely disparate parts then the answer is no: there is only one git repository[21:45:58] <LastTalon> Mkay.[21:47:18] <LunarJetman> however neos is a separate repository[21:47:34] *** refs <refs!~refs@dslb-188-103-161-160.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #gamedev[21:47:55] <LunarJetman> as is neolib which contains the event stuff[21:56:06] <R2robot> This channel needs an enema[21:59:03] * brainzap removes R2robot datacube[21:59:23] <R2robot> I have been .. purged! :([21:59:38] <R2robot> i'm a pooplet[22:02:36] <LastTalon> Have fun with that.[22:03:49] <R2robot> https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-stars-like-rawvana-bonny-rebecca-and-stella-rae-change-diets[22:03:57] <R2robot> i'm SHOOK[22:06:27] <brainzap> everything is fake, sometimes even irc robots[22:10:36] <LastTalon> Get woke[22:13:32] *** SolderBlob1 <SolderBlob1!~SolderBlo@95.174.67.156> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:14:13] <LastTalon> "... more thin people would have survived 9/11 if fat people weren’t blocking the stairwells."[22:14:18] <LastTalon> Ahh yes.[22:15:56] <R2robot> "The threat of rising oceans could be stopped if we killed all whales... because displacement"[22:18:12] <brainzap> "My game engine will replace QT"[22:18:26] <R2robot> brainzap: LOL[22:19:22] <baudejogos> :D[22:19:25] <baudejogos> that was fun[22:19:29] <LunarJetman> my app/game engine will replace Qt.[22:20:58] <LunarJetman> and my universal compiler will cause a technological singularity.[22:21:33] *** jesse1010 <jesse1010!~user@68-113-87-53.static.leds.al.charter.com> has joined #gamedev[22:22:36] *** streamline <streamline!uid333620@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpklgegabmzyspin> has joined #gamedev[22:30:33] *** shlomif is now known as rindolf[22:35:24] *** Hoops <Hoops!~Hoops@ip153.ip-192-99-110.net> has joined #gamedev[22:48:07] <circuitbone> LunarJetman: Can we look at the repo now?[22:49:46] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: of my app/game engine or my universal compiler?[22:50:06] <circuitbone> yes[22:50:17] <circuitbone> either[22:50:32] <LunarJetman> https://github.com/i42output/neogfx[22:50:39] <circuitbone> cheers mate[22:50:49] <LunarJetman> it isn't finished tho[22:51:38] <circuitbone> I understand, just a curious look[22:52:34] <circuitbone> Do you have a physics engine at the moment in mind LunarJetman ?[22:53:37] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[22:53:54] *** adamsky <adamsky!~quassel@178235186244.unknown.vectranet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:01:15] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805])[23:01:48] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #gamedev[23:04:15] *** BrahRah <BrahRah!~BrahRah@84.16.226.14> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)[23:13:20] <LunarJetman> circuitbone: there will be a simple one that I wrote and I will also use Bullet.[23:20:31] *** pulse} <pulse}!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has quit IRC (Quit: the cheetahmen ran off... and now ... the cheetahmen)[23:20:32] <circuitbone> thanks mate.[23:22:22] <Prestige> What's up everyone?[23:22:23] *** BlueProtoman <BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@2604:2000:1404:c1f7:78e4:c09a:3be7:ca2a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:23:09] <R2robot> sup[23:23:22] <Prestige> working on my game engine again, hbu?[23:23:50] <NiniGeo2> Yay game engines :][23:27:08] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.127.58.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:28:13] *** BlueProtoman <BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@2604:2000:1404:c1f7:78e4:c09a:3be7:ca2a> has joined #gamedev[23:28:38] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[23:29:35] <R2robot> Prestige: nice.. working on graphics.. my least favorite thing =/[23:29:55] <Prestige> What lang are u working with again, C++?[23:30:25] <R2robot> me? No, Lua :D[23:30:47] <Prestige> oh haha, I heard that's really friendly to work with[23:30:58] <Prestige> my engine is typescript, so small user base I think[23:31:22] <R2robot> it is friendly. It's also a bit weird. :)[23:31:27] <LastTalon> But typescript is javascript, but better.[23:31:33] <LastTalon> :D[23:31:39] <R2robot> haha[23:32:02] <LastTalon> Lua is a bit weird, but its also the best.[23:32:08] <LastTalon> So that's okay then.[23:33:01] <LunarJetman> my engine is C++ but you will be able to script using any programming language.[23:33:19] <LastTalon> There are so many things I like about Lua, bu tit also has a certain je ne sais quoi about it.[23:33:24] <Prestige> oh that sounds pretty sweet LunarJetman[23:33:25] <R2robot> it took me about a year to come to terms with lua. lol sure it's easy, and fun, but it just didn't feel right to me for quite a while[23:33:43] <Prestige> Isn't lua 1 based with arrays? That threw me off so hard[23:33:48] <R2robot> yeah[23:33:50] <LastTalon> Sort of.[23:34:07] <aeth> LastTalon: Lua to me kind of feels like C. I want to do $foo and I know how to do $foo in a dozen different ways, but the way in Lua is so... basic.[23:34:08] <LastTalon> Like... no, but yes in the ways that if you're using it you probably should just start at 1.[23:34:36] <aeth> Rich standard libraries are fun.[23:34:41] <LastTalon> Its simple.[23:34:52] <R2robot> I'd rather just use perl for everything[23:34:54] <aeth> Simple languages mean verbose code.[23:35:00] <R2robot> RIP perl-sdl[23:35:03] <LunarJetman> with my engine you can use lua with 0-based arrays if you want[23:35:09] <R2robot> (it might still be alive somewhere)[23:35:20] <aeth> R2robot: have you tried Perl 6?[23:35:22] <LastTalon> Why is everyone so afraid to be verbose?[23:35:47] <aeth> LastTalon: because verbosity hides bugs.[23:35:55] <LastTalon> All programming languages are verbose.[23:36:07] <LastTalon> They use more text than you need to communicate the idea.[23:36:11] <R2robot> C FTW[23:36:14] <aeth> Not really. You don't need to resort to a for loop in many languages, but you do in C and Lua.[23:36:27] <aeth> Well, the programming 101 for loop[23:36:43] <Prestige> LunarJetman: how built up is your scripting system?[23:36:45] <LastTalon> You don't have to in Lua if you don't want to.[23:37:00] <LastTalon> You can build a function that does what you want.[23:37:06] <LunarJetman> Prestige: it is still a work in progress: https://neos.dev[23:37:32] <aeth> LastTalon: I was thinking more like this: https://github.com/luafun/luafun[23:37:34] <LastTalon> Name it _ so its really short and not verbose. :D[23:38:03] <LastTalon> aeth, I mean that's written in Lua, so what's your beef?[23:38:17] <Prestige> watching for releases LunarJetman :) sounds exciting[23:38:22] <aeth> It's for LuaJIT so I've never used it.[23:38:24] <LunarJetman> yes :)[23:39:21] <LastTalon> aeth, you don't have to use LuaJIT for it.[23:40:02] <aeth> LastTalon: I care about efficiency too much[23:40:13] <LastTalon> Then you probably should be interested in LuaJIT anyway.[23:40:32] <LastTalon> It basically doesn't matter what you're doing in Lua, JIT is going to provide some efficiency bonus.[23:41:27] <LastTalon> Anyway... Lua is pretty extensible.[23:42:40] <LastTalon> And being verbose isn't the end of the world. Writing out a += as = and + isn't going to kill you.[23:43:47] <DarkUranium> LastTalon, LuaJIT turned me into a newt![23:44:21] *** code_zombie <code_zombie!~code_zomb@2605:a601:aa1:da00:48d5:e99f:de59:4ca4> has joined #gamedev[23:44:24] <LastTalon> DarkUranium, it got better.[23:44:49] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:9dc4:9f51:1271:8d49> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:45:09] <LunarJetman> I will destroy LuaJIT with neos.[23:45:18] <LastTalon> Am I getting the reference correctly, or is it something else? :P[23:45:43] *** ZeroSystem <ZeroSystem!45f81b6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.248.27.107> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:45:56] <Prestige> LunarJetman: you'll probably need a lot of easy to read implementations to draw people into the project, once it's ready[23:46:11] <Prestige> I'd love to see it in action when the time comes[23:46:25] <LastTalon> LunarJetman, does neos do jit compiling?[23:46:32] <LunarJetman> it will do yes[23:46:36] <LastTalon> Neat.[23:47:14] <LastTalon> Why is everything neo? Is it cuz its The One?[23:47:28] <LunarJetman> it is as good a prefix as any[23:47:47] <LastTalon> Missssster anderson[23:47:48] *** mandeep <mandeep!~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:49:35] <LastTalon> So would human brains even make good computers?[23:49:48] <LastTalon> Like they're pretty slow actually.[23:50:02] <LastTalon> Maybe for parallel processing?[23:51:02] <LastTalon> Although humans are relatively low power...[23:52:25] <DarkUranium> LastTalon, they're not slow for visual processing and such.[23:52:34] <DarkUranium> And there are a few humans who can do math pretty much instantly.[23:52:36] <LastTalon> They do have some neat specialized bits.[23:52:58] <LastTalon> They have some neat calculus bits.[23:53:01] <DarkUranium> But yeah, not exactly fast at that. Probably an evolutionary artefact (fast arithmetic was not useful at all until relatively recently in evolution)[23:53:45] <LastTalon> Yeah, I'm thinking the draw to humans as computers is going to be the energy cost.[23:53:53] <LastTalon> You basically run at 100W.[23:54:19] <LastTalon> Although the conversion to the appropriate energy source is a prerequisite.[23:56:30] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #gamedev