March 28, 2019 
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And even then, it's a PITA.[11:06:05] *** altctrlshift <altctrlshift!~norman@unaffiliated/altleftshift> has joined #gamedev[11:06:48] <togo> Whats PITA?[11:07:52] <NiniGeo2> Pain In The Arse[11:08:46] <altctrlshift> he peeps[11:08:50] <altctrlshift> hey even[11:09:12] <altctrlshift> im sure this is an old one[11:09:23] <altctrlshift> but i have a kick ass game idea[11:09:54] <altctrlshift> what would you recommend i do to gather a team and get funding[11:11:02] <DarkUranium> lol[11:11:28] <altctrlshift> hehe... heard this one before have you?[11:12:24] <DarkUranium> togo there was asking that literally minutes ago[11:13:17] <altctrlshift> i think it will be a hard road[11:13:26] <altctrlshift> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16LxEeZdfffhnL0KHvFNIE7NGqrAO26Xu8k4V46EhhCA/edit?usp=sharing[11:14:29] <altctrlshift> its a mech game idea[11:14:46] <togo> I think I shall find people for a Crowd Funding Campaign![11:14:48] <altctrlshift> totally different to anything thats out there though[11:15:01] <altctrlshift> whats your idea togo?[11:15:20] <togo> Guys please find out more via topic/link at #CVSWIKI[11:17:00] <brainzap2> altctrlshift: there is an RTS which uses time[11:17:20] <altctrlshift> whats an RTS?[11:18:39] <altctrlshift> real time strategy[11:18:40] *** DnzAtWrk <DnzAtWrk!~DnzAtWrk@mobile-access-6df024-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:18:42] <altctrlshift> okay[11:18:47] <altctrlshift> thank you google[11:19:52] *** freestyledork_ <freestyledork_!~freestyle@unaffiliated/freestyledork> has joined #gamedev[11:20:02] *** ZeroSystem <ZeroSystem!45f81b6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.248.27.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[11:21:03] <altctrlshift> im thinking that for nexus the players timespeed would be 1/1 and the speed of the sprite would speed up and slow down[11:23:08] *** freefork_afk <freefork_afk!~freestyle@unaffiliated/freestyledork> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:34:49] <brainzap2> but is it fun?[11:35:16] *** ondrej008 <ondrej008!uid311009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvvphdkjixandpbf> has joined #gamedev[11:35:23] *** mads- <mads-!~mfrstar@tenderloin.whatbox.ca> has joined #gamedev[11:36:40] <ondrej008> Say you have a maze that has cells that can be filled or not filled, and then a maze that has cells which have north, east, south, west walls. Are there any (dis)advantages between the two?[11:41:08] *** DnzAtWrk <DnzAtWrk!~DnzAtWrk@mobile-access-6df024-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #gamedev[11:47:02] *** bildramer1 <bildramer1!~bildramer@athedsl-361601.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Of course we scientists have our little secrets. For instance, the moon is in Spain. Another: stars aren't real. Also, cells are huge. One cell is roughly the size of a marble.)[11:53:50] *** arne82 <arne82!~arne82@ip1f10d138.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #gamedev[12:19:43] *** freestyledork_ is now known as freefork_afk[12:21:17] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:23:21] <DnzAtWrk> https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NCSM2450-DK1-Movidius-Neural-Compute/dp/B076751BN8[12:23:26] <DnzAtWrk> I'm a bit curious[12:23:47] <DnzAtWrk> how much could you get out of something like a RPI with one of these[12:23:52] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:95e3:c08f:de79:a550> has joined #gamedev[12:24:04] <brainzap2> pls duuuude, you get it for free on aws or google cloud[12:24:18] <DnzAtWrk> no, screw your fetischiation of online cloud services[12:24:27] <brainzap2> or if you already have a computer[12:24:32] <brainzap2> you could use it for it, we smart[12:26:19] <DnzAtWrk> what is even the difference between a GPU and that device[12:28:49] <DnzAtWrk> but seriously though. I'm honestly getting sick about my coworker always going "oh let's use a cloud service for that. oh let's use a cloud service for that. oh let's use a supercomputer for that"[12:29:04] <DnzAtWrk> I'm the kind of person who wants algorithms and simulations and whatever to be accessible to everyone[12:29:16] <DnzAtWrk> They shall run on a god damn laptop[12:30:33] <DnzAtWrk> if someone is going to take 10 days to run on 100 nodes you coded it wrong[12:30:36] <DnzAtWrk> something*[12:31:21] <DnzAtWrk> or you're running some annoying weather model :P[12:33:22] *** Bob- <Bob-!~Bob@76.202.115.164> has joined #gamedev[12:34:26] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:95e3:c08f:de79:a550> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:35:47] <DnzAtWrk> lol, raspberry pi + camera module + Movidius are commonly bought together[12:35:52] <DnzAtWrk> I wonder what they could be doing[12:37:31] <brainzap2> just stop it DnzAtWrk its waste of money and time[12:38:55] <DnzAtWrk> fun is never a waste[12:40:58] <brainzap2> my home is filled with all this stuff[12:41:12] <brainzap2> my tipp is to buy when you have a usecase[12:41:31] <DnzAtWrk> I don't have a use case for half the stuff I get[12:41:39] <DnzAtWrk> they're just fun to mess around with[12:42:02] <DnzAtWrk> you think making a 3d scanner or something like that actually has practical uses?[12:45:10] *** aly777 <aly777!~kes777@50-242-177-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #gamedev[12:47:12] <brainzap2> I need a mobile app idea[12:47:20] <ondrej008> ask your friends[12:47:34] <ondrej008> i'm sure they have a lot of *great* ideas[12:47:49] <brainzap2> eeh I jsut did[12:48:01] <brainzap2> DnzAtWrk: I can give you SSH access into my pi[12:48:04] <DnzAtWrk> use 3 terms which you need[12:48:11] <DnzAtWrk> in your app[12:48:45] <DnzAtWrk> naw, I stay out of strangers pis[13:00:19] <brainzap2> wanna learn something useful?[13:01:09] <brainzap2> git bisect start; git bisect good GOOD_COMMIT_HASH; git bisect bad BAD_COMMIT_HASH[13:04:51] <R2robot> what did we learn[13:05:42] <brainzap2> rtfm[13:06:38] <R2robot> sooo, you don't know. lol[13:07:24] <brainzap2> it checks out every commit until it founds the origin of the bug[13:08:08] <brainzap2> it saved me lots of hours[13:08:30] <brainzap2> just right now when the newest Xcode dropped support for Swift 3, and a plugin broke[13:17:33] *** DaScoot <DaScoot!~Scooter@24.153.33.9> has joined #gamedev[13:21:08] <DnzAtWrk> I have 18 pots for plants[13:21:12] <DnzAtWrk> in a tower[13:21:16] <DnzAtWrk> recommend some good plants[13:21:35] <DnzAtWrk> not sure if I want decoration or edibles yet[13:24:25] *** excalith is now known as excalith[afk][13:25:24] <brainzap2> DnzAtWrk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmn7tjSNyAA[13:25:50] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has joined #gamedev[13:28:10] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:31:00] <DnzAtWrk> too large[13:31:23] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:acdd:7812:140d:f667> has joined #gamedev[13:38:08] *** toothlessg <toothlessg!~toothless@rrcs-24-103-153-67.nys.biz.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[13:39:09] *** excalith[afk] is now known as excalith[14:01:37] *** atomekk <atomekk!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:01:40] *** atom32k <atom32k!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has joined #gamedev[14:03:17] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[14:03:33] *** Cahaan <Cahaan!~Cahaan@static.88-198-39-148.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:04:48] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has joined #gamedev[14:08:16] *** brainzap2 <brainzap2!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[14:08:39] *** Cahaan <Cahaan!~Cahaan@static.88-198-39-148.clients.your-server.de> has joined #gamedev[14:10:01] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[14:11:28] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[14:13:09] *** warweasle <warweasle!user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe26:d1db> has joined #gamedev[14:14:07] *** jacereda <jacereda!~user@52.red-2-139-153.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #gamedev[14:15:36] <jacereda> Hi. Is it possible to download a d3d12 texture to a properly aligned provided ram buffer without doing additional memcpy()s?[14:17:08] <warweasle> Hi[14:17:22] <R2robot> yo[14:17:38] <warweasle> I did an hour's work last night.[14:17:57] <warweasle> I'm still not happy with my animation however.[14:19:09] <DarkUranium> warweasle, that's still more than I did on my project(s)[14:19:39] <warweasle> https://youtu.be/2SjoNPnvNbQ[14:20:40] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[14:21:38] <R2robot> nice[14:21:45] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has joined #gamedev[14:21:59] <jlebrech> who's playing Satisfactory?[14:22:13] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[14:22:44] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:22:50] <warweasle> I'm going to be busy all day today and I'm not going to get a chance to gamdev. At all.[14:23:15] <R2robot> no bueno[14:23:58] <warweasle> I sort of have a date...[14:24:00] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[14:24:12] <R2robot> oh?[14:24:33] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:24:36] <R2robot> 'sort of'[14:24:56] *** excalith is now known as excalith[afk][14:25:02] <DaScoot> do they know about it[14:25:17] <warweasle> It *is* a date. I just don't normally like dating.[14:25:52] <warweasle> I like to think we are just hanging out.[14:25:57] <warweasle> Less pressur.[14:26:43] <R2robot> yeah, but ...[14:27:09] <R2robot> what if they're all excited about a date, and you're just like .. meh, let's just hang out?[14:27:11] <R2robot> :D[14:28:05] <R2robot> Also, you have NO business attempting to have a social life while trying to gamedev. :P[14:28:19] <DarkUranium> lol DaScoot[14:28:39] <DarkUranium> R2robot, I have plenty of a social life![14:28:46] <DarkUranium> I talk to my cat *all the time*![14:28:48] <warweasle> It's sort of rare that I actually enjoy most people's company. So I'm like "let's try it."[14:28:57] <warweasle> DarkUranium: Does your cat talk back?[14:28:59] <R2robot> DarkUranium: cats are whitelisted[14:29:00] <DarkUranium> No.[14:29:06] <R2robot> so it's ok[14:30:36] <warweasle> Anyway, all I have to do is get through work today. Then race home, take my son his grandmother's and race back. Oh, then shit-shower-shave.[14:31:05] <R2robot> ez[14:31:20] <R2robot> and good luck :)[14:34:58] *** excalith[afk] is now known as excalith[14:36:55] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[14:39:16] *** DnzAtWrk <DnzAtWrk!~DnzAtWrk@mobile-access-6df024-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:00:12] *** diwr <diwr!~diwr@unaffiliated/diwr> has joined #gamedev[15:01:14] *** grouse <grouse!~grouse@83-233-9-2.cust.bredband2.com> has joined #gamedev[15:01:44] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has joined #gamedev[15:05:12] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@c-73-16-120-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[15:06:37] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has joined #gamedev[15:08:30] <CarlaoBazuca> warweasle, the problem is when people's company is FORCED into you[15:08:45] <CarlaoBazuca> we want to keep quiet and doing some nice gamedev, but there is always someone annoying around[15:10:34] *** mr_lou <mr_lou!~misthalos@077213097222.dynamic.telenor.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:10:36] *** diwr <diwr!~diwr@unaffiliated/diwr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:14:17] <brainzap> you mean pulse?[15:14:22] *** LunarJetman2 <LunarJetman2!LunarJetma@5ec16e1a.skybroadband.com> has joined #gamedev[15:14:31] <brainzap> just kidding[15:19:01] <pulse> hello world[15:19:13] <pulse> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ3-JAAgbP8[15:21:45] <R2robot> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1CeyxVu0U[15:22:04] *** stefkos <stefkos!~Pawel@79.184.19.214.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[15:22:18] <warweasle> CarlaoBazuca: Well, I always have other people wanting me to do things for them. My boss. My son. My need to eat and sleep...[15:32:56] <CarlaoBazuca> the first two things are probable causes of you don't want to get people's company[15:33:03] <CarlaoBazuca> *of you not wanting[15:51:27] <brainzap> just let me submit existing project[15:54:16] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:09:32] <rindolf> pulse: hi, sup?[16:13:30] *** bildramer <bildramer!~bildramer@2a02:587:540b:b800:2c97:9d5e:da2a:ed10> has joined #gamedev[16:14:16] <brainzap> rindolf: SUP[16:14:29] <brainzap> rindolf: can you do embedded system stufF?[16:17:22] <rindolf> brainzap: didnt really do it[16:17:51] <rindolf> brainzap: i know c and some c++[16:23:08] *** excalith is now known as excalith[afk][16:26:54] *** arne82 <arne82!~arne82@ip1f10d138.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:28:23] <_DB> what is everyone using to host online games? would anyone recommend aws?[16:29:53] *** excalith[afk] is now known as excalith[16:31:23] <brainzap> what are you working on right now rindolf[16:31:33] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:32:28] <rindolf> _DB: open source ones?[16:33:22] <_DB> for virtual machines like I used to use digital ocean but aws has that 1 year free trial which is nice[16:33:27] <_DB> but in long run its expensive[16:34:26] *** altctrlshift <altctrlshift!~norman@unaffiliated/altleftshift> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:37:23] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:38:38] <Aichan> _DB, you might wanna try those if price is a concern : https://www.kimsufi.com/en/[16:39:43] *** Kelzorz <Kelzorz!~Kelzorz@162.104.220.155> has joined #gamedev[16:42:22] <_DB> hmm not too shabby[16:44:09] <Aichan> The company (OVH) is split in 3 categories : kimsufi.com is the entry priced VPS, then there's SoYouStart.com and finally Ovh.Com for the biggest needs[16:44:24] <toxictype> https://psychictype.itch.io/sotc[16:44:28] <toxictype> Guys play my game[16:45:19] <R2robot> can't[16:46:21] *** mr_lou <mr_lou!~misthalos@077213097222.dynamic.telenor.dk> has joined #gamedev[16:51:00] *** _DB <_DB!68375605@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.55.86.5> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[16:55:58] *** _DB <_DB!68375605@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.55.86.5> has joined #gamedev[16:59:28] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[17:00:15] <brainzap> sorry, support over VPN[17:01:27] <Cahaan> C++ became quite complex with all those new features[17:04:49] <brainzap> it would be easier to learn Rust than to catch up to current C++[17:07:02] <_DB> I think my best bet would be to let players host game the only problem is players that lose connection or shut off device etc[17:07:10] <_DB> id need host migration and enforce penalties etc[17:07:22] <_DB> it would save my client money on paying for a dedicaated server[17:07:28] <_DB> would require a bit more work for me[17:08:15] <_DB> I mean if they lose connection and are winning then no real penalty i guess would seem dumb[17:08:22] <_DB> but if theyre losing and that happens well[17:11:06] *** grouse <grouse!~grouse@83-233-9-2.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:11:24] *** aly777 <aly777!~kes777@50-242-177-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:11:49] <brainzap> oh yeah I am here DB so you question was where to host[17:12:01] <brainzap> it depends on what zones you need to serve with what performance promise[17:14:14] <_DB> yeah i mean it seems like a global thing for a small online game 2 v2[17:14:34] <_DB> but choosing between a dedicated host and player hosting is complex[17:14:46] <_DB> because i can just save lots on having a simple database for leaderboards[17:15:14] <brainzap> how complex is the game server code?[17:15:38] <_DB> not very complex at all tbh players will just be sending data on which direction they swiped[17:15:50] <_DB> and its 2 players swiping at the same time[17:16:01] <_DB> they take turns in 2 v2 its a team thing[17:16:14] <_DB> so at most it will always be 2 players sending data of which way they swiped[17:16:27] <_DB> then i would track who has the most points at end and declare a winner[17:16:43] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:d549:fadc:de9:dad0> has joined #gamedev[17:19:18] <brainzap> I would just use code it up and throw it at google cloud app engine or AWS EC2, and then go from there[17:19:44] <brainzap> because you get starting credits there, which should last for a year[17:20:06] <_DB> ohh google also does a 1 year free trial[17:20:08] <_DB> thats neat[17:20:25] <Cahaan> enough time to bind your soul with them[17:20:29] <brainzap> yeah[17:20:38] <_DB> yeah haha thats why im thinking of letting players host game[17:20:51] <_DB> because they can get expensive depending on players etc[17:21:09] <_DB> this guys making 3k a month on monthly subscriptions[17:21:15] <_DB> on his site[17:21:19] <Cahaan> you need to host a multiplayer game right?[17:21:22] <Cahaan> TL;DR ?[17:21:32] <brainzap> If your code is not shit it will not cost more than 10$ per month[17:21:37] <_DB> yeah but its not a vert data intensive game[17:21:43] *** cheakoirccloud <cheakoirccloud!uid293319@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgkkynyhkbvkisus> has joined #gamedev[17:21:45] <_DB> its a penalty shot game for mobile[17:22:06] <_DB> so players swipe and depending which way they swiped they either block or the shot goes in[17:22:15] <_DB> and someone gets a point[17:22:29] <Cahaan> why not using firebase[17:22:29] <brainzap> this runs on everything, even 2 euro VPS[17:22:39] <Cahaan> if you just want to store a leaderboard or something[17:22:46] <Cahaan> and you just go P2P[17:23:05] <brainzap> p2p still needs a server[17:23:08] <Cahaan> firebase is free for life if you don't have big storage needs[17:23:24] <Cahaan> firebase is a free database server basically[17:23:49] <Cahaan> you could use that so the players can meet up[17:23:54] <_DB> yeah im seeing that ive never used it before[17:23:57] <Cahaan> if you don't have to run a "real" game server[17:24:11] <brainzap> hmm unless he wants to manually craft UDP packets[17:24:12] <Cahaan> I used it and really liked it[17:24:29] <Cahaan> depends on your detailed requirements of course[17:24:32] <Cahaan> but worth checking[17:24:52] <_DB> well im using unity so all I need to do is pass which way players wiped and who got the point and whether or not player has logged out[17:25:08] <Cahaan> then you don't need real time stuff[17:25:11] <Cahaan> just use firebase and you're set[17:25:42] <_DB> and its free forever?[17:25:52] <Cahaan> yeah, except if you scale up really high[17:26:10] <Cahaan> depend on the bandwidth usage mostly[17:26:49] <Cahaan> I suggest checking the pricing, when I checked it it was clearly one of the most interesting services[17:26:55] <_DB> yeah but 10gb a month free isnt bad[17:27:00] <_DB> Id have to learn its api i imagine[17:27:19] <Cahaan> yeah[17:27:24] <Cahaan> pretty easy though[17:27:55] <Cahaan> I even wrote queries directly in JSON with cURL to avoid linking with their APIs[17:28:00] <Cahaan> the documentation is very clear[17:28:12] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has quit IRC ()[17:29:31] <_DB> hmm interesting[17:41:09] *** warweasle <warweasle!user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe26:d1db> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[17:49:53] *** excalith is now known as excalith[afk][17:59:19] *** excalith[afk] is now known as excalith[18:05:53] *** warweasle <warweasle!user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe26:d1db> has joined #gamedev[18:06:48] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidpizz@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[18:16:39] <warweasle> I hadn't updated my server is so long it wouldn't mount one of the drives.[18:16:47] <warweasle> o.O[18:17:02] *** excalith is now known as excalith[afk][18:20:05] <R2robot> RIP[18:24:20] <warweasle> It's back up. I just needed to update ti.[18:24:52] <R2robot> UNRIP[18:31:45] *** BrahRah <BrahRah!~BrahRah@84.16.226.13> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)[18:33:22] *** deiive <deiive!~alystar@c-98-252-1-155.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has joined #gamedev[18:34:10] *** alystar <alystar!~alystar@c-98-252-1-155.hsd1.de.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:46:15] <brainzap> I hate the feeling when you sit down and your mouse has slight wrong sensitivity or drifts off a bit[18:50:03] *** excalith[afk] is now known as excalith[18:52:38] <brainzap> sorry rindolf I did not hear you out. What are you doing these days?[18:53:20] <rindolf> brainzap: i worked on https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/black-hole-solitaire-solver/[18:53:38] <rindolf> brainzap: breaking the api like crazy[19:03:57] <brainzap> that is some piece of work you got there[19:08:34] *** LunarJetman2 <LunarJetman2!LunarJetma@5ec16e1a.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:43:32] *** LunarJetman2 <LunarJetman2!LunarJetma@5ec16e1a.skybroadband.com> has joined #gamedev[19:46:30] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:acdd:7812:140d:f667> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:49:58] *** arathald <arathald!arathald@linuxfromscratch/arathald> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:50:13] *** arathald <arathald!arathald@linuxfromscratch/arathald> has joined #gamedev[19:51:18] *** R2robot <R2robot!~R2robot@unaffiliated/r2ro> has quit IRC (Quit: Pull the lever, Kronk. Wrong leverrrrrrr!)[19:51:45] <_DB> anyone got a good photon tutorial link? 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<CarlaoBazuca> I like it[20:37:47] <CarlaoBazuca> <3[20:37:57] <Donitzo> I'm trying to finetune the rules to make the fishies seem realistic[20:38:11] <CarlaoBazuca> now they need to eat each other :d[20:38:51] <Donitzo> oh they do[20:38:53] <Donitzo> that's how they grow[20:39:15] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:39:31] <Donitzo> notice the flocking behaviour of fishes of similiar size[20:39:49] <Donitzo> fish 20% smaller are prey, fish 20% larger and predators, the rest are kin[20:39:49] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has joined #gamedev[20:40:08] <CarlaoBazuca> make them to open their mouths and SWALLOW them[20:40:25] <Donitzo> if I have enough space left over I could try[20:40:40] <CarlaoBazuca> space?[20:40:46] <Donitzo> to begin with I was going to replace the bezier curves the ship is made from with two sinewaves, so I can have starved fishies turn into skeletons[20:40:54] <Donitzo> needs to be below 1024 byte[20:40:59] <CarlaoBazuca> why?[20:41:01] <Donitzo> the fish*[20:41:11] <CarlaoBazuca> why the 1K restriction?[20:41:12] <Donitzo> I'm making this demo for this js1k thing[20:41:15] <CarlaoBazuca> ahhh[20:41:17] <CarlaoBazuca> interesting[20:41:27] <Donitzo> it's the second demo I make for the same contest :P[20:41:32] <Donitzo> it was just so much fun[20:41:42] *** excalith <excalith!~excalith@195.175.206.218> has quit IRC (Quit: excalith)[20:44:27] <Donitzo> kinda hypnotic[20:44:32] <Donitzo> *nods*[20:44:34] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #gamedev[20:45:03] <brainzap> can someone here read java byte?[20:49:14] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:49:51] <Prestige> https://java-decompiler.github.io/ brainzap[20:53:33] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has joined #gamedev[21:01:36] *** mijowh 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