March 6, 2019 
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<mijowh!~mike@24.102.203.175.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:32:43] *** mijowh <mijowh!~mike@24.102.203.175.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net> has joined #gamedev[08:43:00] <brainzap> good morning freenode.org bests developers[08:43:49] <immibis> who is freenode.org?[08:44:12] <immibis> this is freenode.net[08:44:17] <immibis> are you cheating on us?[08:45:13] <jprajzne> caught in the act[08:50:20] <brainzap> what server are we on?[08:51:24] <jprajzne> servers[08:58:24] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:4466:7600:3ab1:d4d4:9081:13c3> has joined #gamedev[08:58:58] <brainzap> on what AWS nodes are we on?[08:59:11] *** stefkos <stefkos!~Pawel@79.184.24.198.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl> has joined #gamedev[09:05:25] <immibis> servers are so 2010s[09:05:37] <immibis> this thing runs on the blockchain[09:06:07] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bomvnonoaiyucapb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:06:58] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip70-189-228-129.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:06:59] <jprajzne> blockchain is so 2015, this runs on quantum computer[09:08:32] <brainzap> quantum processor is so 2018, this runs on a bio computer on my cats brain[09:09:44] <jprajzne> so oversized dude[09:10:28] <jprajzne> should run on a bacteria in petri dish[09:12:47] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:19:49] *** brainzap2 <brainzap2!~brainzap@83.144.238.178> has joined #gamedev[09:23:00] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@77.208.14.46.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:23:13] *** brainzap2 <brainzap2!~brainzap@83.144.238.178> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:48:48] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@193.238.213.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:51:43] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@193.238.213.7> has joined #gamedev[09:55:59] *** wPSvils 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#gamedev[11:13:50] <R2robot> we're on the freenode network, but i'm sure I'm on a different server than you[11:14:48] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@83.243.92.42> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:16:08] <R2robot> i'm on the asimov server btw[11:20:46] <Cahaan> are you american R2robot ?[11:21:03] <R2robot> yes[11:21:35] <Cahaan> how's life in USA ?[11:21:47] <R2robot> Very American :D[11:22:06] <R2robot> where are you? Cahaan[11:22:18] <Cahaan> Belgium, EU[11:22:24] <R2robot> nice[11:22:35] <Cahaan> went to USA twice[11:22:37] <jprajzne> send me some nice beer, Cahaan :)[11:22:41] <Cahaan> hehe :)[11:22:50] <R2robot> Cahaan: what part(s)?[11:22:54] <Cahaan> yeah we have tons of different beers over here[11:23:09] * R2robot loves lindemans frambois[11:23:14] <R2robot> don't judge me[11:23:19] <jprajzne> dark stout, please :)[11:23:31] <Cahaan> I visited Washington DC, Niagara Falls, New York, Chicago[11:23:36] <R2robot> cool[11:23:37] <Cahaan> oh and Delaware too[11:23:54] <Cahaan> would like to see the west coast one day[11:24:01] <R2robot> it's beautiful :D[11:24:07] <R2robot> been there a couple of times[11:24:11] <Cahaan> yeah seems like it's very nice[11:24:37] <Cahaan> jprajzne, good taste=[11:32:45] <DnzAtWrk> does the US custom tend to want to look at your phone?[11:32:53] <DnzAtWrk> I've heard some stories[11:33:04] <DnzAtWrk> customs*[11:33:10] <jprajzne> Cahaan: thanks :)[11:33:35] <R2robot> DnzAtWrk: i've heard that some do[11:33:45] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:33:48] <jprajzne> insane[11:33:50] <R2robot> US citizens can decline[11:34:09] <R2robot> yeah, it's pretty stupid[11:34:10] <DnzAtWrk> That really does sound mental[11:34:21] <DnzAtWrk> I'd rather destroy my phone than be forced to changed my passwords[11:34:26] <DnzAtWrk> change*[11:34:28] <jprajzne> that is proper mental[11:34:41] <R2robot> us citizen can't be denied entry for declining, but a foreigner can[11:35:05] <jprajzne> sure, based on whatever the guy picks on :)[11:35:07] <R2robot> not sure if all have to show or if it's 'random'[11:35:13] <R2robot> yeah[11:35:15] <DnzAtWrk> I really doubt all would[11:35:22] <R2robot> too slow[11:35:58] <DnzAtWrk> if they tried checking the phones of everyone in heathrow airport they'd never get anywhere[11:36:05] <R2robot> yeah[11:36:08] <mijowh> for what purpose?[11:36:16] <R2robot> 'terrorists'[11:36:24] <DnzAtWrk> who knows, political opinions or something[11:36:41] <mijowh> any cyber criminal isnt exactly going to leave messenger open with their radical terror buddies[11:36:54] <mijowh> i would hope[11:36:58] <R2robot> you'd think[11:37:23] <DnzAtWrk> anyway, it's not surprising that workplaces give out burner laptops to take on trips[11:37:53] <DnzAtWrk> I do the same, take a completely newly formated laptop with me[11:38:30] <R2robot> makes sense[11:42:06] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@83.243.92.42> has joined #gamedev[11:48:07] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@83.243.92.42> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:52:18] *** atom32k <atom32k!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has joined #gamedev[11:55:06] *** atomekk <atomekk!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:59:22] *** atom32k__ <atom32k__!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has joined #gamedev[12:01:21] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[12:01:43] *** atom32k <atom32k!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:24:38] *** Zeioth <Zeioth!~Zeioth@92.59.21.14> has joined #gamedev[12:25:20] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@5.2.197.53> has joined #gamedev[12:25:32] <jlebrech> someone should be a momo game[12:25:38] <jlebrech> should make* a[12:26:43] <R2robot> and get sued when someone kills themselves?[12:28:54] <jlebrech> you play as a child who's talking to momo[12:29:15] *** knops <knops!~yannick@ip-62-143-84-11.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:29:22] <R2robot> do it :)[12:29:24] <jlebrech> like a 3rd person game[12:29:35] <jlebrech> :)[12:30:10] <jlebrech> the way youtube ads work someone could make a momo ad in the middle of a kid's video[12:34:43] <jprajzne> the way the world works someone/something could kill you in the middle of our childhood :)[12:34:55] <jprajzne> s/our/your[12:35:34] <brainzap> what is momo[12:36:35] <DnzAtWrk> some meme/fake news[12:36:54] <R2robot> I believe I was almost kinapped twice in my childhood[12:37:04] <DnzAtWrk> I was almost kidnapped once[12:37:06] <DnzAtWrk> ... at the age of 30[12:37:09] <R2robot> lol[12:37:29] <jprajzne> i napped a lot as a kid, too[12:38:07] <DnzAtWrk> wouldn't be any kidnappings without kids[12:38:09] <DnzAtWrk> kids are bad[12:38:19] <jprajzne> kids are mean[12:38:21] <jlebrech> it's like a youtube video of the ring[12:38:31] <jlebrech> version*[12:39:01] <jlebrech> where momo give kids dares to complete and they get freakier[12:39:08] <jlebrech> but it's a hoax[12:40:19] <DnzAtWrk> what's even challenging about suicide anyway[12:40:21] <DnzAtWrk> finding a gun?[12:40:42] <DnzAtWrk> </dark>[12:40:58] <jprajzne> depends on the location. but yes[12:41:46] <DnzAtWrk> then there are people who for some utterely bizarre reason believe jumping from a high place is a good way to kill yourself[12:43:03] <DnzAtWrk> there are a good number of cases where people jumping at terminal velocity survive[12:43:12] <DnzAtWrk> many times more if you're a cat[12:45:00] <R2robot> watch the documentary The Bridge[12:45:04] <R2robot> so sad[12:45:12] <DnzAtWrk> the people who regret trying to kill themselves midfall?[12:45:14] <DnzAtWrk> Well no shit[12:45:21] <R2robot> about people who jump from the golden gate bridge[12:45:41] <DnzAtWrk> I too would regret the huge amount of pain incoming[12:45:47] <R2robot> not if you're dead[12:45:52] <R2robot> most of them succeed[12:46:01] <DnzAtWrk> which begs the question[12:46:08] <DnzAtWrk> how do they know that they regretted it[12:46:16] <Spec-Chum> I really hope this is just research for a game guys :([12:46:16] <R2robot> ?[12:46:22] <Spec-Chum> #toodarkforme[12:46:39] <DnzAtWrk> Yes, making a game about killing yourself, except it was already done some 15 years ago[12:47:02] <R2robot> oh, maybe you're thinking of the tv show[12:47:08] <R2robot> i'm talking about the documentary movie[12:47:13] *** Zeioth 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Got something new done evern.[15:08:25] <warweasle> even[15:09:36] *** atom32k__ <atom32k__!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:22:41] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[15:26:19] *** zeduckmaster <zeduckmaster!~zeduckmas@85.106.1.181> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:27:26] <jprajzne> cool warweasle[15:27:32] <jprajzne> what did you work on?[15:45:53] *** knops <knops!~yannick@ip-62-143-84-11.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:46:12] *** knops <knops!~yannick@ip-62-143-84-11.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #gamedev[15:46:29] *** Zeioth <Zeioth!~Zeioth@92.59.21.14> has joined #gamedev[15:49:31] <warweasle> jprajzne: I found a way to take the Unreal Mannequin animations and retarget them to my blender rig.[15:53:07] *** Zeioth <Zeioth!~Zeioth@92.59.21.14> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:57:33] <warweasle> It's kind of a big deal because it's the rig from autorig pro, which lets me animate characters quickly. I'm also useing MBLab to create my characters, so I have a full workflow now. My next big milestone is to retarget the animations/logic from the unreal mannequin to my new skeleton and export those animations. Which should solve an issue with my character's IK poles.[16:25:07] *** CustersRevenge <CustersRevenge!~cppcon@2804:14d:5e80:1137:98b6:35ca:945a:ce57> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:26:03] <mupf> Hello[16:31:59] *** jprajzne <jprajzne!jprajzne@nat/redhat/x-tepsuafkhhmqfdso> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:32:41] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[16:36:50] *** wom26 <wom26!~xen74@ppp14-2-99-52.adl-apt-pir-bras32.tpg.internode.on.net> has joined #gamedev[16:38:27] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:f0eb:1f97:bb45:e5be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:39:30] <thomas_25> in 3d programming, is there a special name for "segmentizing" a geometry? as in creating vertices in half way of the already existing vertices and quadrupling the triangle count[16:41:03] <Spec-Chum> tessellation?[16:41:05] *** babuloseo <babuloseo!~babuloseo@unaffiliated/babuloseo> has joined #gamedev[16:44:22] *** souliaq <souliaq!~souliaq@Mail.sys2.com> has joined #gamedev[16:45:44] <solidfox> damn its been months since i worked on my tetris-clone2 project[16:48:23] <Spec-Chum> I'm not allowed to do a tetris clone[16:48:47] <Spec-Chum> mate of mine loves tetris and said there's no way I can make of feel the same, so I shouldn't even try lol[16:49:06] <Spec-Chum> he plays some speed version or other[16:49:08] <DnzAtWrk> eh, I'm sure you're already aware that the tetris company are a bunch of trolls[16:49:23] <Spec-Chum> make it feel*[16:51:36] <Spec-Chum> hehe, I'd make one if I wanted, I don't care what he says, it's not really a game I'm passionate about[16:51:38] *** Buoy172 <Buoy172!~Buoy172@13.94.248.217> has joined #gamedev[16:51:58] <DnzAtWrk> I don't even know how you can patent a game idea[16:52:06] <DnzAtWrk> or trademark or whatever the ****[16:53:00] <DnzAtWrk> the name can be trademarked perfectly fine though[16:53:28] <DnzAtWrk> https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/5kkk82/law_concerns_when_creating_a_game_inspired_by/[16:54:21] <Spec-Chum> Just call it Twatris[16:54:42] *** souliaq <souliaq!~souliaq@Mail.sys2.com> has left #gamedev ("Leaving")[16:55:39] <DnzAtWrk> it's a very gray annoying area and I wish it would all die out[17:01:37] <solidfox> the basic gameplay is not protected[17:01:42] <solidfox> but the look is protected[17:01:54] <solidfox> so you cant copy their color schemes or ui layout[17:02:27] <solidfox> i have my tetris clone in a private repo tho[17:02:36] <solidfox> cause why risk it? code is smelly anyways[17:05:21] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@rrcs-24-123-119-190.central.biz.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[17:09:07] <brainzap> code only smells if you sniff it[17:10:25] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:c0f9:b12b:2052:50c5> has joined #gamedev[17:13:51] *** exploit3r <exploit3r!~eXpl0it3r@limbozz.com> has joined #gamedev[17:14:07] *** bildramer <bildramer!~bildramer@p2003004CEA16C20094F24F6F4D074092.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:14:27] *** bildramer1 <bildramer1!~bildramer@p2003004CEA16C20094F24F6F4D074092.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #gamedev[17:18:39] *** aeth <aeth!~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:20:11] *** aeth <aeth!~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn> has joined #gamedev[17:20:40] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qjtalnkdperrxphm> has joined #gamedev[17:22:17] *** thomas_25 <thomas_25!~thomas_25@unaffiliated/thomas-25/x-0068438> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:32:14] *** englosh <englosh!d5a29f4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.162.159.75> has joined #gamedev[22:32:25] <englosh> is exponentiation sometimes used in gamedev?[22:32:39] <englosh> the exponentiation math[22:33:23] <pulse> yes[22:33:43] *** warweasle <warweasle!user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe26:d1db> has quit IRC (Quit: later dudes!)[22:34:15] <englosh> aww[22:35:52] <pulse> mostly when you mess up and your O(log n) algorithm turns into a O(2**n) monster and then it takes you three weeks to realize all you did was subtract 2 from the wrong variable[22:37:40] *** aeth <aeth!~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:39:40] *** aeth <aeth!~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn> has joined #gamedev[22:53:56] <CustersRevenge> lol, what is up with all these weird questions?[22:54:09] <CustersRevenge> "I don't like math, but I want to make games"[22:54:46] <LastTalon> Show me the math![22:54:51] *** englosh <englosh!d5a29f4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.162.159.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:55:26] <LastTalon> Is exponentiation a problem?[22:56:24] <LastTalon> We'll never know I guess.[22:58:00] *** zalt <zalt!~lambda443@unaffiliated/lambda443> has joined #gamedev[22:58:46] <LastTalon> CustersRevenge, I'm also confused why people want to do programming but are afraid of math.[22:58:56] <zalt> in an ecs, should the entity -> component relationship be one to many?, or is one to one good enough[22:59:14] <zalt> i mean for a given component[22:59:23] <LastTalon> One to many.[22:59:40] <zalt> for example suppose we have a transform component, should it be allowed to have many transform components?[22:59:57] <LastTalon> That's up to you.[23:00:06] <LastTalon> But entity -> component is one to many.[23:00:31] <zalt> currently i have it setup so that's not possible, technically it is possible through further composition[23:00:50] <zalt> i think it just complicated things with no usage i can think of[23:01:28] <zalt> i mean if a component system wants to support such a thing then it does the 'multiplexing' itself[23:03:18] <zalt> i think in 99% of the cases, components are only meaningful if the entity has either 1 or 0 of them[23:03:35] <LastTalon> I think you're using your ECS wrong[23:03:49] <zalt> why?[23:04:10] <LastTalon> I'm not sure how you would assume that in most cases your entities have one or fewer components.[23:04:27] <zalt> it supports having for example, one entity can have: a SINGLE script component, a transform component, a sprite component[23:04:32] <LastTalon> Entities with 0 components are just ids[23:04:37] <zalt> what it cannot have is TWO transform components[23:05:11] <LastTalon> Okay, well that's something else then.[23:05:17] <zalt> yes, that's what i'm asking about[23:05:25] <LastTalon> A script, transform, and sprite are 3 components.[23:05:30] <LastTalon> Your entity has 3 components.[23:05:32] <zalt> it wouldn't be an ecs if it only supported one component or another :D[23:06:01] <zalt> yes, but i meant on the component level itself, my question was not clear, and i don't know how to formulate it[23:06:24] <LastTalon> Whether an entity can be composed of multiple of the same component type is up to you.[23:06:51] <zalt> LastTalon, yes, and i guess it can be done on the component level itself, rather than on the ecs level[23:07:15] <zalt> so for example a script component can decide 'hey i can support a maximum of 6 scripts even though the ecs only gives me one slot'[23:08:11] <zalt> s/6 scripts/arbitrary number of them/[23:09:41] <LastTalon> I think this is probably a situation where KISS applies...[23:10:57] *** [Relic] <[Relic]!~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:903d:8b75:6057:f33c> has joined #gamedev[23:11:20] <zalt> the alternative seems to me both complex in code (since i'm coding this myself) and logically confusing[23:12:15] <LastTalon> If you allow multiple of components of the same type on an entity then you suddenly have a situation where every system is going to have to pay attention for this.[23:12:47] <zalt> if we think of components as rows in a database, the question becomes: should a database supporting multidimensional data on any given row?[23:13:09] <zalt> (think for example, a single person with a row id, having multiple first names :P)[23:13:19] <LastTalon> I wouldn't think about it that way, but if that works for you. Think about it in terms of the effect it'll have on your ECS.[23:13:34] <LastTalon> Say you allow multiple transforms on an entity.[23:14:11] <zalt> LastTalon, in terms of getting what needs to be done done, i think this can be done by relationship between entities[23:14:20] <LastTalon> If something is trying to move entities through its transform you suddenly have a situation where every time you do this you'll have to account for the fact that you might be double moving your entity.[23:19:18] *** CustersRevenge <CustersRevenge!~cppcon@187.39.238.73> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[23:19:19] <zalt> s/components as rows in a database/entities as rows in a database, component systems as columns/[23:21:55] <pulse> https://i.imgur.com/zOvaIay.png[23:22:46] <zalt> pulse, lmao[23:22:50] <pulse> :}[23:23:41] *** thomas_25 <thomas_25!~thomas_25@unaffiliated/thomas-25/x-0068438> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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