February 28, 2019 
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#gamedev[02:14:37] <iLoVue> Hello[02:15:34] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[02:17:32] <iLoVue> What do you guys think of my improved work (I suppose)? https://lospec.com/i/neoq Donitzo WarauSalesman LastTalon[02:23:21] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zehunlpzdgofknwo> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:23:48] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:33:32] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has quit IRC (Quit: the cheetahmen ran off... and now ... the cheetahmen)[03:01:14] *** refs <refs!~refs@dslb-178-005-237-227.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: refs)[03:13:49] *** RoadKillGrill <RoadKillGrill!~RoadKillG@cpe-24-166-114-198.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[03:14:52] *** mobile_c <mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:23:08] *** Tylak 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<mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has joined #gamedev[04:51:53] *** codewaffle <codewaffle!~codewaffl@otto.codewaffle.com> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[04:57:58] *** codewaffle <codewaffle!~codewaffl@otto.codewaffle.com> has joined #gamedev[05:08:28] *** iLoVue <iLoVue!~DinoJS@41.111.83.230> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[05:15:28] *** sn0wmonster <sn0wmonster!~yeti@taskhive/lead/sn0wmonster> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[05:25:31] *** iLoVue <iLoVue!~DinoJS@41.111.83.230> has joined #gamedev[05:25:35] <rocky1138> New one is definitely better, especially the red tiled roof.[05:25:46] <rocky1138> The new one has graphics similar to what I remember Castles having.[05:26:10] <LastTalon> iLoVue, yeah, I like the new one.[05:27:07] *** sn0wmonster <sn0wmonster!~yeti@taskhive/lead/sn0wmonster> has joined #gamedev[05:36:36] <iLoVue> LastTalon, Thank you :)[05:50:01] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@cpe-98-145-151-187.natnow.res.rr.com> has quit 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<stefkos!~Pawel@79.184.25.238.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl> has joined #gamedev[08:09:16] <brainzap> whoami[08:23:46] *** perplexity <perplexity!~perplexed@unaffiliated/perplexity> has joined #gamedev[09:05:04] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@5.2.197.53> has joined #gamedev[09:13:26] *** c4ntelope <c4ntelope!~cantelope@198.sub-174-214-7.myvzw.com> has joined #gamedev[09:13:57] <immibis> urbrainzap[09:14:12] *** cantelope <cantelope!~cantelope@198.sub-174-214-7.myvzw.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:17:47] <brainzap> I am OP[09:23:43] <wPSvils> Original Prankster[09:28:50] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:4466:7600:3ab1:d4d4:9081:13c3> has joined #gamedev[09:30:27] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@193.238.213.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:36:45] *** wPSvils <wPSvils!~PDevelope@193.238.213.7> has joined #gamedev[09:57:39] *** Serpent7776 <Serpent7776!~Serpent77@90-156-31-193.internetia.net.pl> has joined #gamedev[10:07:09] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.124.98.253> has joined #gamedev[10:21:41] *** iLoVue_ <iLoVue_!~DinoJS@41.111.98.78> has joined #gamedev[10:24:27] *** iLoVue <iLoVue!~DinoJS@41.111.83.230> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:34:37] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:34:43] <Donitzo> I am awake[10:36:17] <rts-sander> aware and awake[10:36:35] <Donitzo> no, just awake[11:00:33] <brainzap> barely awake to be paid a full time salary, but not awake enough to produce an amazing product which will make millions[11:22:29] <jprajzne> it§s called average, brainzap[11:23:04] <jprajzne> http://herniprumysl.cz - game industry in czechia[11:24:34] <Donitzo> stroke adds an additional pixel to the size of a rectangle with 2d canvas in js[11:24:41] <Donitzo> This is a travesty![11:32:26] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqwqrwzywjsnyrtv> has joined #gamedev[11:37:22] <jprajzne> :)) well, since flash is deprecated...[11:37:36] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has joined #gamedev[11:48:14] <Donitzo> flash was pretty chaos though[11:48:20] <Donitzo> it was a chore to properly organize project assets[11:48:35] <Donitzo> and preload assets[11:49:05] <Donitzo> then I discovered flashdevelop and things became 50% more tolerable[11:56:25] <rts-sander> and then there's Haxe and things become 200% more tolerable[11:56:40] <rts-sander> Haxe is going to outlive actionscript[11:59:19] <brainzap> another daed programming language[11:59:31] <pulse> real programmers write things in x86 asm[11:59:55] <brainzap> real programmers outsource to serbia and charge tripple[12:01:14] <rts-sander> Haxe isn't dead, it just has a weak pulse[12:01:23] <pulse> ha[12:03:26] <brainzap> it is literally only used for gamedev[12:03:41] <brainzap> by people who hate lua[12:04:00] <rts-sander> also frontend web applications[12:05:37] <brainzap> currently I am looking for a technology or framework that helps me make a very interactive website[12:05:57] <brainzap> I want the user to be able to drag and drop items around in 2d, and it should be bouncy and snappy, game like[12:06:30] <rts-sander> I'm thinking pixi.js[12:11:15] <jprajzne> some dnd framework with animated transitions, brainzap?[12:14:32] <brainzap> a dungeons and dragons framework??? want[12:15:55] <jprajzne> drag and drop, sorry for disappointment son[12:19:06] <Spec-Chum> I've never played D&D :o[12:19:37] <jprajzne> if you played fps, you did[12:20:21] <Spec-Chum> I meant brainzap's D&D :D[12:21:05] <Spec-Chum> in other news, Unity's burst compiler is intriguing me. I need to look into that more[12:23:24] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has joined #gamedev[12:55:27] *** ZeroSystem <ZeroSystem!45f81b6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.248.27.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:08:42] <jprajzne> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2019/02/28/sharing-our-common-voices-mozilla-releases-the-largest-to-date-public-domain-transcribed-voice-dataset cool :)[13:11:42] *** mr_lou <mr_lou!~misthalos@077213097222.dynamic.telenor.dk> has joined #gamedev[13:20:27] *** mobile_c <mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[13:20:28] <brainzap> just use movies with subtitles[13:20:39] <brainzap> (dramatic pause)[13:50:36] <Spec-Chum> https://c0de517e.blogspot.com/2019/02/c-its-not-you-its-me.html[13:50:38] <Spec-Chum> opinions?[13:51:43] *** aly777 <aly777!~kes777@50-242-177-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #gamedev[13:51:48] *** mobile_c <mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has joined #gamedev[13:58:19] <brainzap> it would be easier to learn Rust than to catch up to current C++[14:02:23] <Spec-Chum> I wonder what c# could do to attract more[14:02:35] <Spec-Chum> the new core SIMD awareness is a good start[14:02:58] <Spec-Chum> I wonder what, if any, AAA games are built on C#[14:03:06] <Spec-Chum> I don't mean monogame or unity[14:03:13] <Spec-Chum> literally, c# from the ground up[14:03:39] <rts-sander> probably none[14:03:59] <Spec-Chum> using SharpDX for example[14:04:07] <Spec-Chum> that gives you DirectX but nothing else[14:04:16] <rts-sander> are there even AAA games purely built on garbage collected languages?[14:04:39] <Spec-Chum> I'm not really sure, but the GC is always stated as a down side[14:05:00] <jprajzne> i think it really depends[14:05:13] <jprajzne> another world used virtual machine, for example[14:05:20] <jprajzne> back in the day...[14:05:33] <Spec-Chum> another world as in the Delphine game?[14:05:37] <jprajzne> yes[14:06:00] <Spec-Chum> ah right, didn't know that[14:06:04] <jprajzne> i'd not say that gc is a drawback, it just depends on profiling[14:06:32] <Spec-Chum> I think the main issue is it can happen when you don't really want it to, and you get little control[14:06:51] <Spec-Chum> you can pause it but once unpaused all bets are off again[14:07:08] <jprajzne> i understand that stacking layers on top of layers is not probably what screams high performance[14:07:14] <rts-sander> it's a drawback when you can't control when it runs and you need a stable framerate[14:07:25] <rts-sander> of course object pooling can help[14:07:28] <Spec-Chum> rts-sander: yeah, that's what I was getting at[14:07:33] <jprajzne> right, rts-sander, but gcs are improving[14:07:50] <rts-sander> yes there's different ways to optimize GC[14:08:07] <jprajzne> it's not a new thing anymore, take a look at what azul engineering is doing[14:08:24] <rts-sander> for example golang GC prioritizes low latency[14:08:32] <Spec-Chum> I mean, it's not like c++ frame rates are stable, look at reviews that do in-depth fps charts, they're all over[14:08:34] <jprajzne> so i'd say that this argument is shifting from justified to biased[14:09:36] <pulse> people are so spoilt today[14:09:41] <pulse> use C++ and stop complaining[14:09:42] <pulse> lol[14:09:54] <rts-sander> of course 100% stability isn't going to happen unless you run handcrafted code on a special OS, but GC is another factor[14:10:11] <Spec-Chum> biased?[14:10:41] <rts-sander> the argument on GC is going from "absolutely not", to "maybe"[14:10:47] <jprajzne> i get that, but on the other hand, how many folks can pull out high performant cpp code?[14:10:53] <pulse> <-[14:11:15] <pulse> non-deterministic GCs are always slower than my code[14:11:18] <jprajzne> rts-sander: :)) yeah, inversely you can rephrase it like that[14:11:20] <pulse> simple physics[14:12:01] <pulse> instead of complaining all day long about things that don't matter people should work on their creative projects[14:12:06] <jprajzne> pulse: that sounds terminal :)[14:12:06] <pulse> better use of time[14:12:10] <pulse> jprajzne, it is :P[14:12:13] <jprajzne> agreed[14:12:59] <rts-sander> not having to worry about manual memory management grants me more freedom :D[14:13:12] <pulse> i never worry about memory management[14:13:18] <pulse> worry is for suckers[14:13:26] <jprajzne> unless you spent that freedom on endless profiling - been there, done that :))[14:13:38] <pulse> i simply write good code :}[14:14:10] <jprajzne> pulse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LOTovR-70Y :))[14:14:26] <pulse> jprajzne, video not available :s[14:14:35] <jprajzne> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uMYwG2Lv8[14:14:52] <pulse> hm[14:15:01] *** DaScoot <DaScoot!~Scooter@static-24-153-33-9.cpe.metrocast.net> has joined #gamedev[14:15:07] <pulse> jprajzne, i'm listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLK7ezux5k[14:15:15] <pulse> too much of a shift[14:15:17] <pulse> :p[14:15:38] <jprajzne> btw how's your composing doing?[14:15:48] <pulse> kinda crappy[14:16:01] <pulse> i have ~10 track to make for my game[14:16:10] <pulse> kinda idealess atm[14:16:42] <jprajzne> kiss[14:17:27] <jprajzne> can i help you?[14:18:02] <pulse> do you like working for zero pay on a project that may not ever get finished that will be free of charge? :P[14:18:24] <pulse> tbh it's kind of a practice project, the intent is for me to practice artsy stuff[14:18:42] <pulse> otherwise, sure[14:18:48] <jprajzne> i do that all the time with my projects :)[14:18:56] <pulse> ;)[14:19:07] <pulse> i need a fairytale sounding theme for my game[14:19:29] <jprajzne> any graphics ready, just for the mood and inspiration?[14:19:32] <pulse> i tried about 20 times already, i can't figure it out[14:19:50] <pulse> maybe, here's the menu http://pulzed.com/moxmagus/mm1.png[14:19:59] <pulse> prototype http://pulzed.com/moxmagus/mm2.png[14:20:12] <jprajzne> looks dark-ish[14:20:34] <jprajzne> can you share the story please?[14:21:01] <pulse> hmm[14:21:08] <pulse> it'[14:21:11] <pulse> 's half done[14:21:32] <jprajzne> start, something in the middle maybe, end :)[14:21:32] <pulse> basic gist is apprentice sorcerer needs to do the trials[14:21:40] <jprajzne> start and end is what usually folks have[14:22:04] <jprajzne> ok, thanks :)[14:23:11] <jprajzne> is it sort of a medieval setting?[14:24:07] <pulse> kinda[14:24:21] <pulse> think: gothic atmosphere but cartoony[14:24:28] <pulse> here's a failed experiment i did the other day https://clyp.it/ec1gkf4n[14:26:08] <pulse> maybe i could use this one if i changed the instruments a bit https://clyp.it/kwztljo4[14:26:20] <pulse> i have way too many unfinished tracks[14:27:52] <jprajzne> those sound good, the second one is probably too happy :))[14:27:59] <jprajzne> but, what's wrong with those?[14:28:00] <pulse> yea[14:28:14] *** mobile_c <mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:28:19] <pulse> idk, not the mood i want[14:28:20] <jprajzne> nah, the second one has too much stuff going on[14:28:47] <pulse> yeah it's more appropriate for some kind of spaceship level[14:29:14] <pulse> HERE's the mood i really want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWqConCdfAE[14:29:37] <pulse> the game that inspired my game[14:31:10] <rts-sander> damn that brings back some memories[14:31:24] <pulse> :)[14:31:36] <brainzap> sick tunes pulse bro[14:31:43] <pulse> :}[14:32:12] <jprajzne> have you tried some aeolian/phrygian stuff, pulse?[14:32:34] <brainzap> spooky spooky skeletons[14:32:36] <pulse> phrygian sounds cool[14:32:50] <jprajzne> aeolian being your natural minor, phrygian is spanish/metal sound[14:33:00] <pulse> jprajzne, ideally i'd figure out some arpeggios that sounded mystical as fug[14:33:06] <pulse> jprajzne, aha[14:33:12] <pulse> i'm checking them out on wikipedia heh[14:33:18] <jprajzne> :)[14:33:21] <pulse> <- programmer, not a composer[14:33:25] <pulse> :S[14:33:34] <jprajzne> <- no one :))[14:38:22] <brainzap> if you compose music, you are a composer[14:45:19] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:45:46] <jprajzne> pulse: https://soundcloud.com/g0dd4rd/28-feb-1438/s-3aNM8 quick sketch at work :))[14:46:28] <pulse> wow[14:46:37] <pulse> reminds me of tristram[14:46:50] <pulse> maybe a bit too dark in tone[14:47:18] <pulse> my game is supposed to be kinda commander keen like as far as humor goes[14:47:22] <pulse> still pretty nice[14:47:24] <jprajzne> if i could play finger style with all my fingers, i could do 5 notes, sounds bit different[14:48:03] <jprajzne> i can give you the progression, you can change some chords to major ones and see how that goes?[14:48:17] <pulse> that'd be nice[14:48:33] <jprajzne> ok, let me tab it[14:49:58] <pulse> i wish i understood rhytm through instrumentation[14:50:02] <pulse> e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDB1b1tvBBw[14:50:20] <pulse> my biggest problem is all my composition sound 4/4 and robotic[14:50:36] <pulse> i need to figure out rhytm[14:50:45] <pulse> rhythm*[14:57:39] <brainzap> just add a ukulele[15:00:21] *** Twipply <Twipply!~Twipply@unaffiliated/twipply> has joined #gamedev[15:00:39] <jprajzne> pulse: http://www.dredwerkz.cz/pulse-theme.html[15:01:31] <pulse> jprajzne, thanks![15:01:59] <jprajzne> no problem, you can rearrange it in the hocus pocus style or whatever you like, of course[15:02:00] <pulse> pretty easy to play[15:02:09] <jprajzne> yes :)[15:04:38] <brainzap> just google game music generator[15:08:57] <pulse> imagine your game intro being THIS epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJnMaTx4yjI&t=2m14s[15:09:06] <jprajzne> the first chord is e minor, not e minor 7 pulse, i corrected the tab :)[15:09:34] <pulse> jprajzne, fixed :)[15:10:15] <jprajzne> programmed drums :)[15:10:27] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqwqrwzywjsnyrtv> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[15:10:50] <jprajzne> that's the only thing is not ok for me[15:10:56] <jprajzne> in there[15:11:25] <jprajzne> i don't mind that if i can't tell though :))[15:14:43] *** jprajzne <jprajzne!jprajzne@nat/redhat/x-kwctsgcdcaxkhscw> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:16:22] <pulse> this is peak game composing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRX5HXiTvi0[15:16:38] <pulse> if only i could harness such ... power[15:18:03] *** stefkos <stefkos!~Pawel@79.184.25.238.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[15:42:36] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[15:45:55] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.124.98.253> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:59:58] <Donitzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGK3usiX31s[15:59:58] <Donitzo> also[16:00:11] <Donitzo> great game great soundtrack[16:00:27] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[16:05:41] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.124.98.253> has joined #gamedev[16:10:17] <brainzap> no soundtrack can outdo this master piece, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqJfqIwpXZ8[16:11:24] *** sternmull <sternmull!~kringel@p5481C34F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #gamedev[16:13:56] <pulse> brainzap, noice[16:16:14] <brainzap> when I hear this soundtrack I start walking with the beat in RL (because the game trains you to do this)[16:17:26] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@67.218.88.131> has joined #gamedev[16:18:40] *** brainzap 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<brainzap2> thats what I did[16:51:27] <Donitzo> my keyboard is good enough[16:51:46] <brainzap2> on my volume slider you can change volume by scrolling the mousewheel, without clicking[17:07:46] *** brainzap2 <brainzap2!~brainzap@77.208.14.46.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[17:08:40] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@rrcs-24-123-119-190.central.biz.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[17:12:17] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:b868:e5d9:c1d0:a87b> has joined #gamedev[17:25:53] *** jprajzne <jprajzne!~jprajzne@static-84-42-226-12.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #gamedev[17:26:23] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has joined #gamedev[17:30:36] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:33:24] *** gareppa <gareppa!~gareppa@unaffiliated/gareppa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:34:55] *** pavonia <pavonia!~user@unaffiliated/siracusa> has joined #gamedev[17:35:05] <pulse> dude where's my IDE[17:35:19] <notchris> in your wallet?[17:41:53] *** macza <macza!~macza@162.221.202.202> has joined #gamedev[17:43:26] *** rindolf <rindolf!~rindolf@77.124.98.253> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:50:44] *** [Relic] <[Relic]!~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:d964:8d3c:2049:f5d6> has joined #gamedev[17:54:56] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@5.2.197.53> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:55:31] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@5.2.197.53> has joined #gamedev[17:57:58] *** xen74 <xen74!~xen74@2001:44b8:2e3:9b00:2cdc:5ee0:7cc6:138d> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:00:00] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@5.2.197.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:13:40] *** S_Gautam <S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgnhfclqryycswjw> has joined #gamedev[18:15:27] *** freestyledork <freestyledork!~freestyle@unaffiliated/freestyledork> 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first[19:22:49] *** BrasilAcimaDeTud <BrasilAcimaDeTud!~cppcon@177.97.112.70> has joined #gamedev[19:24:20] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:25:11] <myke> blame donzito[19:25:52] <notchris> lol[19:26:28] * BrasilAcimaDeTud eats baconzitos[19:27:57] *** atomekk <atomekk!~atomekk@unaffiliated/atomekk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:28:39] *** overnumerousness <overnumerousness!~overnumer@75.71.151.222> has joined #gamedev[19:35:27] <notchris> gamedev is hard[19:42:09] <DaScoot> I have a guy who writes bonus stories for my patreon, he's ghosted me this month though so I'm gonna have to finish one up myself tonight :([19:42:30] <DaScoot> feels like I've spent the last month and a half doing stuff totally aside from my actual development goals[19:44:21] <notchris> whats patreon[19:46:26] <DaScoot> the crowdsourcing site? you pay some $ per month or per update to support creative works[19:46:39] <notchris> ahh[19:50:59] <overnumerousness> What type of stories are these?[19:54:47] *** notchris <notchris!~notchris@67.218.88.131> has quit IRC (Quit: notchris)[19:58:08] <DaScoot> my game is played from the perspective of a spy on a space station, the stories are bonus chapters from the perspective of random station crew members[19:59:59] <overnumerousness> Sounds fun, doubt I can offer any help, but I wouldn't mind checking out your site![20:01:09] <DaScoot> it's nsfw ;) can link if you like though[20:01:58] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> Cobra Mission[20:02:02] <overnumerousness> haha! Even better! Go ahead, but I may wait till a little later to check it out though[20:03:50] <DaScoot> carnalcoup.blogspot.com[20:04:44] <overnumerousness> ty[20:06:12] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Quit: My tummy says it's time to sleep Mr. Bubbles.)[20:10:19] <overnumerousness> DaScoot: What languages do you program in?[20:13:08] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> C++ here and Lua[20:14:30] <overnumerousness> Woot! Love meeting other Lua devs! Kudos![20:18:23] <overnumerousness> I do mainly server-side code so Lua's my goto for scripted stuff.[20:21:28] <DaScoot> I'm making it in Unity, C#[20:21:45] <DaScoot> for work projects it varies, C#, java, python[20:21:52] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[20:22:41] *** pulse <pulse!~pulse@unaffiliated/pulse> has joined #gamedev[20:22:42] <overnumerousness> How long did it take you to learn Unity?[20:23:19] <gogoprog> 5 minutes[20:23:43] * gogoprog enjoys some Lua too[20:23:49] <overnumerousness> LOL, that easy?[20:24:11] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> yeah! he is Kusaka, from Geshinken[20:24:24] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> Kosaka[20:24:38] <DaScoot> I can't say I ever just sat down and 'learned' unity, just this past month I've had to spend a lot of effort redoing the options screen stuff in my game because I found out my lazy GUI system sucks when your game starts to have more than 1 level[20:24:38] *** JohnsonAskot <JohnsonAskot!~dre@104-190-229-134.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net> has joined #gamedev[20:24:53] <DaScoot> for work my contributions to Unity projects are mostly modelling related[20:25:17] <JohnsonAskot> There any popular game design channels?[20:26:42] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> yes[20:26:44] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:29:01] <overnumerousness> I'm not a game-engine kinda guy so much. Thought about learning Cry Engine at one point, never followed through[20:29:34] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[20:29:44] <overnumerousness> ...Also I don't follow the Kosaka reference. Should I know what that means?[20:30:04] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> watch Geshinken - seasons 1 and 2[20:30:10] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> you won't regret 1[20:30:16] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> season 3 kinda sucks, though[20:31:26] <overnumerousness> I'll add it to my 'If I ever get free time' list. :/[20:34:11] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> one of the episodes has a very funny Yaoi reference[20:35:11] <overnumerousness> Haha nice[20:37:41] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:52:36] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[20:52:36] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:4466:7600:3ab1:d4d4:9081:13c3> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:54:03] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:4466:7600:3ab1:d4d4:9081:13c3> has joined #gamedev[20:59:18] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:08:46] <Donitzo> I wish I got to use unity at work[21:09:01] <Donitzo> I've been involved in projects where OTHER people got to use unity for vr demonstrations[21:09:24] <Donitzo> and internally I'm screaming "I can do this so much better"[21:09:45] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> is unity really good? or just good enough, but handy enough as well?[21:09:57] <Donitzo> it's about as good as the developer[21:11:40] <overnumerousness> So what do you use at work then?[21:12:08] <Donitzo> I'm a project researcher, not a game developer. So tons of python and R and some C# etc.[21:13:21] <Donitzo> can't forget javscript[21:13:33] <Donitzo> but I can forget a[21:14:14] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has joined #gamedev[21:15:07] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[21:16:20] <overnumerousness> Nice! I haven't really broken into game dev stuff either, I mostly do server stuff, Json over sockets, SQL commands, spit stuff back to the client-side. Tons of php lua javascript and golang. depends on project[21:19:01] <Donitzo> though I have been developing games for about 15 years, but only ever at a hobby level[21:19:03] <Donitzo> and small games[21:19:30] <Donitzo> tons of flash[21:19:56] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> who still uses flash?[21:20:41] <overnumerousness> I have a computer with flash! Still works too![21:21:14] <overnumerousness> Heard it's getting discontinued sometime in 2020.[21:23:05] <Donitzo> I got into making js games about 2 years ago[21:23:10] <Donitzo> and that's all I'm doing now[21:23:35] <Donitzo> I absolutely love being able to share games online[21:23:50] <Donitzo> on itch.io and I guess newgrounds[21:23:57] <overnumerousness> I've been playing with three.js and a-frame but never did anything serious with them.[21:24:12] <Donitzo> a-frame is badly made[21:24:16] <Donitzo> as an extension to three.js[21:24:20] <Donitzo> not very customizable[21:24:34] <Donitzo> and it doesn't even work for iphone anymore so why bother[21:24:59] <overnumerousness> hmm.. maybe I'll reconsider with that one then[21:25:15] <Donitzo> Well I tried to make a vr game last month and for the life of me couldn't get vr to work on iphone[21:25:19] <Donitzo> but I have had it working before[21:25:48] <Donitzo> I think they may have changed the API again or some stupid crap[21:26:26] <overnumerousness> If iphone sux at executing js I see that a problem for Apple more than a problem for me.[21:26:35] <Donitzo> it doesn't suck at js[21:26:40] <Donitzo> it sucks at VR and fullscreen games[21:26:41] <Donitzo> js is fine[21:26:43] <Donitzo> and webgl is fine[21:27:48] <overnumerousness> Well that makes a little more sense. Hopefully soon Webgl will be good enough for VR by itself[21:27:57] <overnumerousness> then it wouldn't matter[21:28:08] <Donitzo> it's not webgl which is the issue, but getting the orientation[21:28:14] <Donitzo> from whatever API it is exposed by[21:29:11] <overnumerousness> Don't see why IOS doesn't just go open source. Then devs can start embedding it into toasters like they do with android and they won't have to mess with these non-cross-compatible APIs[21:29:53] <Donitzo> I think they just haven't properly standardized the VR API yet[21:29:56] <Donitzo> so it's a bit in the air[21:30:14] <Donitzo> like, there was a completely new API I believe[21:30:17] <Donitzo> with a new name[21:30:21] <Donitzo> and I'm like "why"[21:30:43] <overnumerousness> Do you develop for Iphone?[21:31:15] <Donitzo> I haven't realeased anything on iphone yet but I'm planning to make a few things for it[21:31:23] <Donitzo> like this vehicle building game[21:32:41] <Donitzo> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i5yocbl7halqxel/terrain_4.png?raw=1[21:33:04] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> lol[21:33:17] <overnumerousness> cute![21:33:47] *** immibis <immibis!~immibis@125-238-72-168-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:34:03] <Donitzo> infinite slope, p2 physics, but I got a bit sidetracked in figuring out what the point was[21:35:01] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> the point is to make the character to smile[21:35:06] <overnumerousness> the point? You mean other than go down hill?[21:36:26] <Donitzo> you're supposed to build out your vehicle by dragging out new parts and placing more wheels, and the slope gets more and more difficult[21:36:28] <Donitzo> that's it[21:36:32] <Donitzo> not sure where to go from there[21:37:23] <overnumerousness> Indiana Jones giant boulder following you from behind![21:37:35] <BrasilAcimaDeTud> time attack[21:38:10] <Donitzo> maybe. I'll ponder on that after finishing this platformer engine[21:38:51] <Donitzo> which I started on because I was making a machine learning AI arena game[21:38:56] <Donitzo> god, I just keep changing project[21:39:09] <overnumerousness> Add some biblical innuendo into the plotline or something. Opens you up to a whole new demographic[21:39:22] <Donitzo> lol[21:39:34] <Donitzo> I did add some hidden messages to some games I've made[21:40:29] <overnumerousness> i like to drop an occasional easter egg when I do projects. Whether they're games or not[21:41:54] <overnumerousness> the machine learning AI arena sounds more like my cup-o-tea tho![21:42:17] <Donitzo> Oh it's basically ready to be tested[21:42:41] <Donitzo> I'll hook up the genetic algorithm and see what happens[21:42:57] <overnumerousness> Nice! Lookin for beta-testers?[21:43:42] <Donitzo> still just placeholder graphics[21:43:49] <Donitzo> I'm more just curious if they are able to learn[21:44:44] <overnumerousness> That would be cool[21:45:31] <overnumerousness> I've been working on a market prediction machine learning algorithm for FOREX trading[21:46:17] <Donitzo> Ah yeah, I tried that[21:46:32] <Donitzo> it feels like hopeless because I imagine there are a lot of huge companies invested in it[21:46:45] <Donitzo> but you know, sometimes you can find something novel that works[21:48:02] <Donitzo> I was pondering on if there was a way to use keywords in local news as input data for predicting trends in currency pairs[21:48:10] <Donitzo> I mean, global news*[21:48:46] <overnumerousness> Totally. but during the gold rush the smart business man didn't go digging for gold, he sold shovels. I'm looking at it more as a tool to help traders than a replacement for the human brain[21:49:26] <Donitzo> if you ask the people on #forex ml for trading is a dead end :P[21:49:45] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has joined #gamedev[21:50:18] <overnumerousness> I'm not surprised[21:53:56] <overnumerousness> How does the genetic algorithm work?[21:57:00] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has joined #gamedev[21:58:10] <Donitzo> it just randomly breeds chromosomes using... let's see[21:58:52] <Donitzo> rank select, crossover and mutation[21:59:07] <Donitzo> I also use a distance metric to discourage similiar chromosomes[21:59:15] <Donitzo> (but I don't think they care)[21:59:51] <Donitzo> the chromsomes are used as weights in my recurrent neural network[22:00:03] <Donitzo> chromosomes*[22:00:49] *** babuloseo <babuloseo!~babuloseo@unaffiliated/babuloseo> has joined #gamedev[22:00:54] <overnumerousness> is it a quake like arena game?[22:01:04] <Donitzo> naw, 2d platformer[22:01:10] <Donitzo> just a room for now[22:01:53] <Donitzo> why is why I got sidetracked in making a platformer engine[22:01:58] <Donitzo> which*[22:03:57] <overnumerousness> right on. Could be cool if it works[22:04:30] <overnumerousness> My offer still stands if you need someone to test it out :)[22:06:38] *** refs <refs!~refs@dslb-178-005-237-227.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #gamedev[22:07:58] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@rrcs-24-123-119-190.central.biz.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: zzzzzz)[22:09:56] *** joshbright <joshbright!~joshbrigh@rrcs-24-123-119-190.central.biz.rr.com> has joined #gamedev[22:21:07] *** ShadowIce <ShadowIce!~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044> has joined #gamedev[22:22:57] *** brainzap <brainzap!~brainzap@217.22.129.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:24:53] *** DaScoot <DaScoot!~Scooter@static-24-153-33-9.cpe.metrocast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[22:37:13] <Donitzo> as usual I'm pretty impressed with js[22:37:38] <Donitzo> 30 fps running 200 recurrent networks at proper speed[22:38:07] <Donitzo> with 140 input neurons, 10, 10 hidden layers and 5 outputs[22:41:26] <myke> nice[22:47:28] *** LunarJetman <LunarJetman!~fa_eb_fe@94.197.121.22.threembb.co.uk> has joined #gamedev[23:02:08] *** sternmull <sternmull!~kringel@p5481C34F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:04:43] <LunarJetman> I have acquired three .dev domains: i42.dev, neos.dev and neogfx.dev[23:07:27] *** jprajzne <jprajzne!~jprajzne@static-84-42-226-12.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: jprajzne)[23:12:57] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:4466:7600:3ab1:d4d4:9081:13c3> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[23:16:05] *** freestyledork <freestyledork!~freestyle@unaffiliated/freestyledork> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:17:14] *** freestyledork <freestyledork!~freestyle@unaffiliated/freestyledork> has joined #gamedev[23:30:32] *** Serpent7776 <Serpent7776!~Serpent77@90-156-31-193.internetia.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:31:55] *** Rangar <Rangar!~Rangar@203.100.210.45> has joined #gamedev[23:36:54] *** Beliar <Beliar!~Beliar@2a02:8108:9640:6c42:b868:e5d9:c1d0:a87b> has quit IRC (Quit: The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing)[23:37:12] *** solidfox <solidfox!~solidfox@unaffiliated/snake/x-2550465> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[23:45:56] *** Tylak <Tylak!~Tylak@074-135-002-092.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[23:47:13] *** dexterfoo <dexterfoo!dexter@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe86:59ec> has joined #gamedev[23:52:42] *** ShadowIce <ShadowIce!~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:53:11] *** mobile_c <mobile_c!~mobile_c@cpe-172-193-55-193.qld.foxtel.net.au> has joined #gamedev