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[03:52:57] <solidfox> lol havent worked on tetris-clone2 in like 10 days
[03:53:11] <solidfox> been busy blending
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[07:11:04] <brimonk> Is there a specific channel for computer graphics?
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[09:21:03] <mr_lou> brimonk, I don't think so.
[09:32:17] <DarkUranium> brimonk, ... unless you have a specific API in mind (like OpenGL or Vulkan)
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[11:01:26] <brainzap> oh my god my coworker is incompetent
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[11:04:37] <jprajzne> surprise
[11:04:58] <jprajzne> what did he didn't do?
[11:05:15] <jprajzne> according to your expectation(s)
[11:05:18] <brainzap> he just is unable to write average code
[11:05:25] <jprajzne> define average
[11:05:44] <brainzap> to filter an array he uses find or map
[11:05:48] <brainzap> but not filter()
[11:06:03] <jprajzne> :)
[11:06:10] <jprajzne> many ways to do things?
[11:08:35] <R2robot> 100 ways to do things.. all wrong. -- each.and.every.programmer
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[11:09:26] <jprajzne> R2robot: well, some prg. lang. creators claim one extreme or the other
[11:09:32] <jprajzne> perl vs python
[11:10:19] <R2robot> doesn't matter. In the eyes of every programmer, anything done in anyway that is not their own is wrong/bad/stupid/etc :P
[11:10:26] <jprajzne> i think that any kind of creativity expresses how your mind works
[11:10:37] <jprajzne> so, yeah
[11:10:42] <jprajzne> that's right
[11:10:56] <jprajzne> except that the attitude is not very healthy one
[11:10:56] <R2robot> it's annoying af :D
[11:11:01] <jprajzne> :))
[11:11:14] <R2robot> :D
[11:11:47] <jprajzne> i usually don't mind, am just following at least the formatting style :))
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[11:12:45] <R2robot> "just make it work" -- me 99% of the time
[11:13:21] <R2robot> I don't care how others do it as long as it works :D
[11:14:05] <jprajzne> :))
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[11:14:20] <jprajzne> review from someone else helps a lot
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[11:15:00] <Spec-Chum> anyone doing anything retro? :)
[11:15:19] <R2robot> sure, there is often room for improvement. Doesn't make anyone incompetent that it wasn't 'perfect' the first time.
[11:15:28] <R2robot> Spec-Chum: a few people are
[11:15:35] <Spec-Chum> I took a look at TilEngine this week, seems nice. Limits you like a real console
[11:15:43] <R2robot> might be on a few hours from now
[11:15:49] <Spec-Chum> you can of course just bypass the limits
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[12:12:23] <DnzAtWrk> I need to vent
[12:12:49] <DnzAtWrk> the package tracking system for the local mail system in our country is crap
[12:13:30] <DnzAtWrk> what they do is they try to make a delivery, and mark the package as "on route", and when it fails they return it to the local post office, but do not update the "on route" message
[12:13:41] <DnzAtWrk> so each time I have no idea where the package is and where to get it
[12:13:51] <DnzAtWrk> IDIOTS
[12:18:23] <rts-sander> yeah it's complicated software
[12:18:57] <rts-sander> for my job I've to interface with different carriers for our warehouse management software, some of these systems run on really old crap
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[12:19:54] <DnzAtWrk> Oh I bet it's some windows xp crap
[12:20:10] <DnzAtWrk> using winforms
[12:20:20] <DnzAtWrk> and with a huge image logo when you start it
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[12:35:47] <jprajzne> or maybe just that the actual folks don't scan it when it gets back so the system has no idea :)
[12:37:04] <jprajzne> actually in my country the employees are irresponsible, they don't even try to ring the bell, just throw 'not delivered - pick it up at your local post-office' notice
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[14:06:01] <Prestige> ah I wish I could have gone to fosdem
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[14:33:35] <R2robot> Belgium? Be right there! :P
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[14:36:27] <Cahaan> oh wow BELGIUM
[14:36:32] <Cahaan> I live there :p
[14:37:42] <R2robot> dontbelieveyou.gif
[14:37:46] <R2robot> :P
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[14:40:43] <Cahaan> I really do
[14:40:46] <Cahaan> lol
[14:41:21] <Cahaan> might go to fosdem just to visit the godot team
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[14:47:55] <jprajzne> Cahaan: cool :)
[14:48:25] <jprajzne> i wanted to go, but no budget (although we're sponsors) :))
[14:50:02] <R2robot> nice :)
[14:50:08] <R2robot> do it.. report back :D
[14:50:58] <brainzap> belgium, how much does this cost
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[14:51:37] <R2robot> belgium currency is beer
[14:52:49] <R2robot> jprajzne: 10.5 hour drive for you :D
[14:54:16] <R2robot> with one country in between... meanwhile, 10.5 hours is not enough time to drive across my state of Texas. :D
[14:55:20] <jprajzne> R2robot: :)) thanks
[14:55:33] <jprajzne> i think i'd go by train :)
[14:56:06] <R2robot> 16 hours. O_o
[14:56:15] <R2robot> (according to google maps) :P
[14:57:48] <jprajzne> no moneys, so...
[14:58:05] <R2robot> (._.)
[14:58:07] <jprajzne> i think few folks arranged minibus/cars
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[15:50:24] <CaffeineNicotine> Cahaan, will you keep waiting for him? :D
[15:52:10] <Cahaan> CaffeineNicotine, for sure :}
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[15:57:15] <CaffeineNicotine> you won't believe the first time I've heard about Godot
[15:57:45] <CaffeineNicotine> hint: very relevant to this channel :D
[15:58:11] <R2robot> wut
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[16:02:10] <Cahaan> CaffeineNicotine, I might try to modify the code myself at some point
[16:02:32] <Cahaan> currently the problem is a bit annoying, but only in "extreme" cases
[16:02:54] <Cahaan> so I'll see what happens in 3.2 and I will keep bothering them :)
[16:04:01] <Cahaan> CaffeineNicotine, wait, you're not in that other channel. What were you talking about exactly? :p
[16:04:24] <CaffeineNicotine> other channel? :D
[16:05:00] <CaffeineNicotine> oh no!! do I have to explain a very awesome joke? :((((
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[16:08:13] <R2robot> explain yourself!
[16:08:29] <WarauSalesman> <Cahaan> might go to fosdem just to visit the godot team
[16:08:36] <WarauSalesman> <CaffeineNicotine> Cahaan, will you keep waiting for him? :D
[16:08:59] <WarauSalesman> that was the joke, based on the "Waiting for Godot" play
[16:09:14] <R2robot> FWOOSH! Over my head.
[16:09:18] <R2robot> still don't get it. lol
[16:09:34] <R2robot> oh.
[16:10:50] <WarauSalesman> a classic oldie that keeps being remade in the neighbor theater
[16:11:07] <WarauSalesman> :-/
[16:12:19] <R2robot> never heard of it :P
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[16:30:08] <rts-sander> obscure reference of the day
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[16:56:54] <WarauSalesman> fucking millenials :-/
[16:57:33] * R2robot is old enough to be your dad
[16:58:23] <Cahaan> the only way I could have known anything related to Samuel Beckett is from school tbh
[16:58:24] <WarauSalesman> you've told us your age already. I am older than you :D
[16:58:26] <Cahaan> def. not my cup of tea
[16:58:54] <WarauSalesman> at least you like my atari 2600 quiz
[16:59:18] <WarauSalesman> Cahaan, hehehehe. we easily forget the annoying things from school
[16:59:30] <R2robot> lies, I never say my age on the internet
[16:59:40] <WarauSalesman> but you did
[16:59:40] <Cahaan> still remember some annoying stuff I had to read back then though ^^
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[16:59:54] <R2robot> how old am i?
[17:00:35] <WarauSalesman> I am 7 years older than you
[17:00:44] <WarauSalesman> now we are both compromised :)
[17:00:44] <R2robot> how old are you then? :P
[17:00:56] * WarauSalesman never says his age
[17:01:02] <R2robot> lol
[17:01:03] <R2robot> LIES
[17:01:10] <WarauSalesman> you know my age now
[17:01:15] <R2robot> nope
[17:01:19] <Cahaan> each time you tell your age on IRC a kitty gets hurt
[17:01:34] <Cahaan> that's why no one is doing it
[17:01:50] <R2robot> then I have never hurt a kitty on irc :D
[17:02:58] <RandomCouch> I have 2 kitties, y'all better not hurt them
[17:03:32] <WarauSalesman> R2robot, you let it slide because you compared your age with when you played atari :)
[17:03:58] <R2robot> let it slide?
[17:04:03] <R2robot> meaning I didn't do it :P
[17:04:13] <WarauSalesman> you were thinking no one else here would connect the dots :D
[17:04:36] <R2robot> still doesn't tell you my age though :)
[17:05:25] <WarauSalesman> too bad I don't have the logs here, but you said your age when you were a kid
[17:05:50] * WarauSalesman won't expose your actual age. don't worry
[17:06:06] <WarauSalesman> but you add seven more and you have mine :)
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[17:09:20] <WarauSalesman> yummy yummy, cartman farts in my tummy
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[17:09:39] <R2robot> Been grepping my logs.. my age isn't in there :P
[17:09:45] <R2robot> you must be thinking of someone else
[17:10:01] <WarauSalesman> okay then :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[17:10:08] <R2robot> :D
[17:10:30] <Cahaan> maybe it was me
[17:10:39] <Cahaan> I remember a discussion about the atari 2600 around here
[17:10:47] <R2robot> we've had several :D
[17:11:17] <R2robot> I do remember someone revealing their age.. and they were younger than I though. lol
[17:11:20] <WarauSalesman> ahh taaah riii
[17:11:30] <R2robot> thought*
[17:11:42] <R2robot> well "though" works as well lol
[17:11:51] <WarauSalesman> \o/
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[17:21:24] <rts-sander> are you guys 50+ then or something
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[17:24:59] <dostoyevsky> rts-sander: I am your grandfathers grandfather
[17:26:15] <Cahaan> you're actually talking with artificial intelligences without even noticing
[17:29:15] <rts-sander> the age difference is amplified in AI because they can think really fast
[17:31:47] <dostoyevsky> rts-sander: but seriously, I doubt anyone under 60 having at least two PHDs can see any utility or may be even able to install clieODODnt for using IRC
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[17:41:54] <rts-sander> yes you need high IQ to install irc client
[17:42:14] <dostoyevsky> which is why twitter as 1bio users and FN only has like 15
[17:44:20] <WarauSalesman> dostoyevsky, I love how profiling can make everything more stupid
[17:48:29] <babuloseo> WarauSalesman: expalin
[17:48:41] <babuloseo> isn't profiling suppose to show you where in your code you have freeze ups
[17:48:45] <babuloseo> or where things take too long?
[17:53:45] <rts-sander> profiling has a meaning outside of software development :D
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[18:13:02] <babuloseo> rts-sander: indeed
[18:13:03] <babuloseo> profile me
[18:13:06] <babuloseo> >wake up at 10am
[18:13:08] <babuloseo> >drink tea
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[18:14:04] <rts-sander> babuloseo, jobless englishman
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[19:33:22] <rocky1138> I am really inspired by Daggerfall Unity and OpenMW
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[19:51:27] <Donitzo> but is it online
[19:52:12] <jprajzne> waiting for godot is very well known, indeed. perhaps not in usa though since the author is irish :))
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[19:54:45] <Donitzo> hmm
[19:54:51] <Donitzo> what tools to put on my laptop for tomorrow
[19:55:02] <Donitzo> I was thinking... javascript
[19:58:01] <jprajzne> just a good editor then
[19:58:28] <jprajzne> the frameworks install themselves automatically when you visit site x, y, z :))
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[21:16:52] <RandomCouch> Any good pixel art concept artists here?
[21:17:53] <WarauSalesman> I wish I was
[21:18:03] <WarauSalesman> I can only draw 32x32 sprites
[21:18:24] <WarauSalesman> some vestigial skills from when I developed crappy games for MSX
[21:18:40] <WarauSalesman> and yet, I never found a decent sprite editor
[21:18:51] <brainzap> eeeh there are tons
[21:18:58] <WarauSalesman> yes, there are tons
[21:18:58] <WarauSalesman> :)
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[21:25:52] <R2robot> time to write your own
[21:26:06] * WarauSalesman lost his Pascal sources
[21:26:12] <WarauSalesman> it had everything
[21:26:26] <WarauSalesman> mirroring, built-in and mask, animation...
[21:26:34] <WarauSalesman> could add/remove frames on the go
[21:26:40] <R2robot> do it again.. from memory
[21:26:47] <WarauSalesman> nah! I am a married man now :(
[21:26:53] <R2robot> wut
[21:26:58] <R2robot> who would marry you?
[21:27:03] <R2robot> :P
[21:27:04] <WarauSalesman> I ask the same question
[21:27:13] <WarauSalesman> I just blinked... and POOH
[21:27:33] <WarauSalesman> married, with a job, lots of annoying things to do and barely having time for fun
[21:27:54] <WarauSalesman> there are so many games to play... so much code to write...
[21:27:58] <R2robot> writing your own pixel editor = fun
[21:28:34] <WarauSalesman> well, for some awkward reason, you're shedding a light of hope on me
[21:28:45] <WarauSalesman> I could put something in github that uses my die-tk
[21:28:53] <WarauSalesman> then I could advertise both projects
[21:28:54] <R2robot> there you go
[21:29:08] * R2robot is a master motivator
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[21:29:22] <WarauSalesman> I will DEMAND feedback, though :)
[21:29:37] <R2robot> hahaha
[21:29:43] <WarauSalesman> from everyone here, except the atheist fucktard we all know
[21:30:22] <WarauSalesman> okay... let's draw some grids, wreck that canvas and load some image fragments
[21:32:11] <R2robot> lol
[21:32:18] * R2robot is an atheist
[21:32:48] <WarauSalesman> but you are far from being a fucktard. quite the opposite, actually <3
[21:33:10] <WarauSalesman> it was not an association. I am *almost* an atheist
[21:33:21] <WarauSalesman> since there are some things in the life that I would never be able to understand or explain
[21:33:36] <WarauSalesman> but yes, I dislike all the religions. they are a total waste of time (for me)
[21:34:14] <R2robot> :D
[21:34:25] <R2robot> point n click adventure game.
[21:34:38] <WarauSalesman> yeah! thanks!
[21:35:27] <WarauSalesman> wow! 2 days left to get the game
[21:35:35] <WarauSalesman> Thank you for purchasing Deponia: The Complete Journey
[21:35:46] <WarauSalesman> Redeem your Deponia: The Complete Journey key before it expires on January 31 at 10 a.m. Pacific time
[21:35:57] <WarauSalesman> meh! I still have to redeem it
[21:36:09] <R2robot> ez
[21:36:15] <WarauSalesman> ehhhhh
[21:36:18] <WarauSalesman> jackbox free XD
[21:36:21] <WarauSalesman> what is the catch?
[21:36:50] <R2robot> you have to join the epic games launcher :D
[21:36:58] <WarauSalesman> arghhh
[21:37:09] <WarauSalesman> which means... another silly app in my pc
[21:37:26] <DarkUranium> I already have it because UE4.
[21:37:32] <R2robot> same
[21:37:37] <LunarJetman> *almost* an atheist? what a fucktarded thing to say. you cannot be "almost" an atheist.
[21:37:39] <WarauSalesman> what was the last one I had to uninstall after barfing a lot... it was that one which had Dragon Age
[21:37:55] <R2robot> gog?
[21:37:56] <WarauSalesman> sure, because it is BINARY, right?
[21:38:03] <WarauSalesman> no. gog is great
[21:38:08] <LunarJetman> yes it is binary actually
[21:38:11] <WarauSalesman> but gog does not need a launcher
[21:38:20] <LunarJetman> either you lack a belief in gods or you don't. binary.
[21:38:38] <DarkUranium> LunarJetman, what if you *are* a god, but you don't truly believe in yourself?
[21:38:44] <DarkUranium> checkmate, atheists!
[21:38:53] <WarauSalesman> :D
[21:39:11] <WarauSalesman> let's create an account in that epic crap and see what would happen... spam spam spam spam spam
[21:39:28] <DarkUranium> it used to be opt-out, in a blatant violation of GDPR
[21:40:49] <WarauSalesman> oh! I already had an account. ffjdsfkljfalfjsl
[21:41:42] <WarauSalesman> Haz clic en el botón para restablecer la contraseña de tu cuenta de Epic Games.
[21:41:44] <WarauSalesman> WUT
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[21:43:20] <R2robot> haha, it's in Spinach
[21:43:21] <WarauSalesman> ok. the game is in my Epic Games account. wheee!
[21:45:33] <R2robot> the only emails I get from epic are the ones I get telling me to protect my account because of all the failed logins. lol
[21:45:56] <WarauSalesman> well, I just realized that someone else used my email address to create that account
[21:46:00] <WarauSalesman> too late now. it is mine
[21:46:07] <R2robot> my email info has been stolen before.. so people are always trying to hack my accounts :/
[21:51:54] <WarauSalesman> hahahaha like I would type my email address there
[21:51:56] <WarauSalesman> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[21:52:25] <WarauSalesman> www.emailaddresscollector.com
[21:52:29] <R2robot> it's a legit site :)
[21:52:32] <WarauSalesman> :)))))))
[21:52:40] <WarauSalesman> I TRUST YOU
[21:52:43] <R2robot> i got it from Ryan C Gordon
[21:52:53] <R2robot> the SDL maintainer
[21:52:54] <R2robot> one of them anyway
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[21:53:10] <WarauSalesman> sdl sucks, so you are making it only worse :D
[21:53:15] <R2robot> and now i get updates everytime a breach happens and my email is collected. lol
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[22:08:21] <WarauSalesman> thanks, but you're late
[22:08:26] <WarauSalesman> :>
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[22:13:47] <rindolf> WarauSalesman: what?
[22:14:22] <WarauSalesman> R2robot has beaten you into it
[22:14:34] <WarauSalesman> you'
[22:14:42] <WarauSalesman> you've failed to earn karma credits
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