March 25, 2019 
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March 25, 2019 [00:37:55] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has joined #fink[00:48:53] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has quit IRC (Quit: mischi)[02:11:58] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has joined #fink[04:11:42] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:07:36] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has joined #fink[12:03:00] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has quit IRC (Quit: mischi)[12:08:35] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has joined #fink[12:52:17] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has quit IRC (Quit: mischi)[12:52:42] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@141.48.173.91> has joined #fink[12:53:04] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@141.48.173.91> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:53:25] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@141.48.173.91> has joined #fink[12:53:25] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@141.48.173.91> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:59:03] *** TheSin <TheSin!~TheSin@d162-157-155-78.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting)[14:25:34] *** TheSin <TheSin!~TheSin@gateway.bluefalls.ca> has joined #fink[14:25:34] <Chanbee> All hail my mighty and rightful ruler![14:55:55] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has joined #fink[14:55:56] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:56:22] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has joined #fink[15:09:43] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:18:46] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has joined #fink[15:32:25] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:44:24] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has joined #fink[16:27:40] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:30:46] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has joined #fink[17:23:15] *** htodd <htodd!~htodd@2603:3004:a:31e2:21b:21ff:fe69:c370> has joined #fink[17:23:31] <htodd> hey, anyone talk to wgscott lately?[18:01:08] <TheSin> damn autocorrect always changes dmacks to smacks :\[18:42:33] *** akh_ <akh_!~akhansen@rrcs-76-81-212-18.west.biz.rr.com> has joined #fink[18:57:20] <htodd> hahaha[18:57:24] <htodd> I wondered about that[19:18:38] <dak180> TheSin: when do you want to setup the backups?[19:19:12] <TheSin> right now my only focus is fixing finkmirrors.net I have no other capacity to think sadly[19:19:18] <TheSin> this new job is killing me[19:20:04] <dak180> TheSin: i know how that works; give me a shout when you are ready[19:20:13] <TheSin> once finkmirrors.net is up everything is available via rsync IIRC so you could just use rsync mirror to back things up[19:20:29] <TheSin> but we need the domain functional first[19:21:15] <TheSin> since I didn't move companies, I might look at moving snitch to the VMWare cluster where it'll get more power and HA[19:22:41] <dak180> TheSin: i had thought we would be setting up for full backups of the server not just data?[19:27:59] <TheSin> ahh[19:28:18] <TheSin> well if I move it to the VMware cluster it'll be auto backed up[19:28:41] <TheSin> but we could set something up even easier then cause I could send you the ova ;)[19:30:55] <dak180> TheSin: ☺ well i have 1.5 TB and a user set aside on my home server when you are ready[19:31:40] <TheSin> kk I'll give it some thought on he best way to get the relavent stuff to backup[19:32:04] <TheSin> but right now I just wish I had access to that domain so I could fix it, would take me less then 15 minutes[19:32:37] <TheSin> and it's going on months now, feels like my PR, so I assume 15+ years maybe we'll look at it ;)[19:32:46] <dak180> TheSin: heh[19:33:02] <TheSin> it's so bad that even my PR is out of date now ;)[19:33:41] <TheSin> dpkg is on 0.19.x now and frozen so it'll be stable shortly[19:33:49] <TheSin> err 1.19.x I mean[19:34:47] <dak180> TheSin: well, on the plus side all i need is a script or an outline for one and buckups can get started[20:07:36] <cirdan> i could setup something like bareos again, and/or backup to google drive :)[20:07:48] <cirdan> TheSin: can snitch be on zfs? :)[20:08:36] <TheSin> no[20:08:36] <cirdan> then you can just send the filesystem of the network ;-)[20:08:38] <cirdan> aw[20:08:50] <cirdan> yo dont like data integrety and compression?![20:08:59] <TheSin> nope and it's a template[20:09:05] <TheSin> pre built[20:09:19] <TheSin> and compression is costly and I dont' need it[20:09:24] <cirdan> lx4 is free[20:09:27] <cirdan> lz4 :-p[20:09:29] <dak180> cirdan: my home server where i am offering backup space is running zfs in z3[20:09:30] <TheSin> what snitch needs it CPU and lots of it[20:09:34] <cirdan> ah[20:09:48] <TheSin> cpu costly not money[20:09:52] <cirdan> if I had upload I could host a mirror, sadly, comcast is the f'n worst[20:10:06] <TheSin> I have never found myself in a place that I needed storage over CPU[20:10:14] <cirdan> TheSin: what about semi-static pages?[20:10:19] <cirdan> also y ou never had a cheap vps ;-)[20:10:31] <TheSin> I have 20 of them[20:10:31] <cirdan> would that reduce the cpu load?[20:10:37] <TheSin> but all need CPU not space[20:10:59] <TheSin> no the web part is tiny[20:11:10] <cirdan> what's burning cpu?[20:11:13] <TheSin> bindist and distfiles is large[20:11:17] <TheSin> pdb[20:11:37] <TheSin> pdb is very expensive it uses jetty and solr[20:11:47] <cirdan> isnt pdb the web part?[20:12:11] <cirdan> can't the pages be generated on a timer or something instead of dynamic for everyone?[20:12:57] <TheSin> the loading isnt' the issue[20:13:10] <TheSin> it's the populated which happens every 4 hours if it's done[20:13:22] <TheSin> basically it never stops running cause it's rarely done in 4 hours[20:13:27] <cirdan> oh it takes that long to generate the static content[20:13:29] <cirdan> huh.[20:13:35] <TheSin> no[20:13:41] <TheSin> it takes that long to populate the db[20:13:45] <cirdan> wow[20:13:49] <TheSin> there are no static pages[20:13:50] <cirdan> what db are we using?[20:13:54] <TheSin> solr[20:14:12] <TheSin> which honeslty is SUPER effective to reading[20:14:19] <TheSin> way better then sql[20:14:26] <cirdan> sounds like we need one better for writing :)[20:14:27] <TheSin> but does to populate[21:07:40] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@dhcp-128-103-38-131.harvard.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:43:26] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@62.28.216.218> has joined #fink[22:28:43] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has joined #fink[22:28:52] *** TheSin <TheSin!~TheSin@gateway.bluefalls.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting)[22:35:21] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:01:28] *** emcepe is now known as mcp[23:55:52] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has joined #fink