March 13, 2019 
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http://znc.in)[15:13:00] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[15:18:40] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[15:19:42] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[15:41:45] <mischi> The sources for gd2-2.0.35 seem to be gone. A quick test with the most recent version 2.2.5 looked promising. commit?[15:50:26] <mischi> ah. just noticed the update of the sources for gd2-2.0.35. ok.[15:50:51] <amacks> akh: can you enable the telnet package for 10.14?[15:50:58] <mischi> urgent problem solved. maybe i look more careful into the update.[15:52:35] <akh> amacks: Sure[15:55:58] <akh> It should be up now.[16:08:35] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[16:08:54] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[16:19:43] <amacks> akh: thanks, it fails with a crazy error on 10.14 (almost brand new machine)[16:19:48] <amacks> xcodebuild -project libtelnet.xcodeproj -alltargets -configuration Release[16:19:48] <amacks> 2019-03-13 11:18:58.114 xcodebuild[83002:2545907] [MT] IDELogStore: Failed to open log store at /var/empty/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData/libtelnet-eparumqhzcujzafrpztuxqtzgfao/Logs/Build[16:19:48] <amacks> 2019-03-13 11:18:58.114 xcodebuild[83002:2545907] [MT] IDELogStore: Failed to open Build log store: Error Domain=IDEFoundationErrorDomain Code=1 "Unable to create log store directory at '/var/empty/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData/libtelnet-eparumqhzcujzafrpztuxqtzgfao/Logs/Build': (513) You donât have permission to save the file âBuildâLogsât have permission to save the file âBuildâLogsât have permission to save the file âTest[16:19:48] <amacks> âLogsât have permission to save the file âTestâLogsât have permission to save the file âIntermediates.noindexâBuildât have permission to save the file âlibtelnet-eparumqhzcujzafrpztuxqtzgfaoâDerivedDataâ** BUILD FAILED **[16:45:13] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:17:27] *** azstefano_ <azstefano_!azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has joined #fink[17:17:58] *** azstefano <azstefano!azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:17:58] *** azstefano_ is now known as azstefano[17:23:10] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[17:24:07] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[17:29:00] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[17:29:30] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[17:47:38] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[17:48:04] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[18:14:33] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@65.112.8.140> has joined #fink[18:15:28] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[18:15:36] <mischi> hi. when building scipy on 10.14, i ran into UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 88-89: ordinal not in range(128)[18:16:22] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[18:16:31] <mischi> I could route it back to warning messages from the gfortran compiler.[18:17:50] <mischi> if i switch off the warning with according FFLAGS, i get further.[18:18:37] <mischi> But it must also relate to the shell used by fink. In case i execute the command in the build directory, all runs through.[18:23:03] <mischi> is « non-ascii?[18:23:52] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[18:24:49] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[18:28:47] <mischi> seems so. puzzled. any ideas?[18:36:28] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[18:37:19] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[18:38:30] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[18:39:32] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[18:41:37] <mischi> laters.[18:41:48] *** mischi <mischi!~michael@141.48.8.2> has quit IRC (Quit: mischi)[18:56:56] *** azstefano_ <azstefano_!~azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has joined #fink[18:57:33] *** azstefano <azstefano!azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:57:33] *** azstefano_ is now known as azstefano[19:07:51] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@65.112.8.140> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:12:09] *** azstefano_ <azstefano_!~azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has joined #fink[19:13:00] *** azstefano <azstefano!~azstefano@unaffiliated/azstefano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:13:00] *** azstefano_ is now known as azstefano[19:15:48] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@65.112.8.17> has joined #fink[19:34:41] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[19:36:20] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[19:48:33] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[19:49:59] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[19:55:06] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@65.112.8.17> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:04:05] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[20:04:30] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[20:51:44] <cirdan> any thoguhts on making badblocks it's own splitoff from e2fsprogs?[20:52:01] <cirdan> TheSin: mostly you :)[20:52:07] <cirdan> or at least make it easily searchable[20:52:38] <TheSin> you mean like a web file search?[20:53:17] <cirdan> no like fink apropos badblocks[20:53:32] <cirdan> i think it just needs it in the description to be found[20:53:34] <TheSin> http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/filefind.php?search=badblocks&match_type=contains&dist_name=default&architecture=any&tree=any&submit=Search[20:54:03] <cirdan> did apropos change?[20:54:11] <TheSin> no idea never use it[20:54:13] <cirdan> i thought it searched the descdetail[20:54:31] <TheSin> I use file search all the time though for fink and debian[20:54:33] <cirdan> it's broken[20:54:42] <cirdan> apropos package...[20:54:42] <cirdan> This command behaves similarly to fink list except that package... must be supplied and it searches package descriptions as well as package names for the given strings (no wildcards).[20:55:09] <cirdan> hrm[20:55:23] <cirdan> unless it's short descripion only[20:55:32] <cirdan> but i could have sworn it was detail as well[20:56:05] <cirdan> anyway it's a super handy tool, prolly most handy on os x out of the files in that package :)[20:56:42] <TheSin> unless like me you connect lots of ext2/3/4 drives to your desktop ;)[20:56:53] <cirdan> zfs man[20:57:04] <cirdan> :-)[20:57:05] <TheSin> too much over head[20:57:13] <TheSin> I work with Pis mostly[20:57:20] <TheSin> zfs + SD = death[20:57:23] <cirdan> I have zfs on my pi[20:57:30] <TheSin> it's not a good idea[20:57:32] <cirdan> no it isn't it uses the sd less[20:57:35] <TheSin> zfs eats SDs[20:57:47] <cirdan> compression = less data to store, cow means better write spread[20:57:58] <cirdan> also get faster io with lz4[20:58:08] <TheSin> not in my tests[20:58:14] <cirdan> just disable atime[20:58:15] <TheSin> every dead card I have had zfs on it[20:58:24] <TheSin> I'm back to ext2 for longevity[20:58:42] <cirdan> and bitrot[20:59:35] <cirdan> do you have good sd cards? a1 rated?[20:59:55] <TheSin> only buy sandisk[20:59:56] <cirdan> https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/application/index.html[21:00:11] <cirdan> me too but a1 for data usage[21:00:16] <TheSin> regardless I have pis that have been up for years with em[21:00:41] <TheSin> and I have almost a 100 of em so I'm happy with my setup[21:01:13] <cirdan> 100 pis? wow[21:01:29] <TheSin> they are al over the production facility for tracking and such[21:01:45] <TheSin> so I can't have them failing[21:02:20] <TheSin> plus I'm working on a few other Pi based projects, one for a crypto coin and one for a controller but that will be close to 10k a year[21:02:32] <TheSin> so I'll likely go CM3 for those with eMMC[21:03:11] <cirdan> hmm[21:03:21] <cirdan> anyway zfs shouldn't be any harder than f2fs on a sd card[21:03:39] <cirdan> well except checksums[21:03:45] <TheSin> in my initial tests it was, and it's a bigger PITA to deal with[21:04:16] <TheSin> harder to build repeatable custom images, harder to mount on my desktop to deal with etc etc[21:04:34] <TheSin> one of my employees is hardcore zfs so been down this already[21:04:45] <cirdan> i am too[21:04:46] <cirdan> :)[21:04:48] <TheSin> it's just not worth it[21:05:00] <cirdan> sucks to hear that[21:05:07] <cirdan> bbiab gota pickup kids[21:05:12] <TheSin> not for these projects, as I dont' have a need for space I have a need for process, less compression = more speed for other things[21:05:32] <cirdan> lz4 used 1% cpu on my pi3[21:05:37] <cirdan> and got faster io[21:05:41] <TheSin> and it uses 0% of mine ;)[21:05:50] <cirdan> and lower io ;-p[21:05:55] <TheSin> don't need it[21:05:58] <TheSin> need CPU[21:06:03] <TheSin> and ram[21:06:03] <cirdan> then dont use a pi[21:06:10] <cirdan> use a 4gb renegade[21:06:13] <TheSin> wish I had other options[21:06:16] <TheSin> hahah[21:06:19] <TheSin> for 4 times the cost[21:06:30] <cirdan> na is like $45[21:06:32] <TheSin> again happy with my solution[21:07:10] <cirdan> oh maybe it was rock64[21:07:32] <cirdan> yeah rock64[21:08:06] <cirdan> https://www.pine64.org/?product=rock64-media-board-computer $45 and support until at least 2022[21:08:42] <TheSin> jesus 3A[21:08:49] <TheSin> I like my PoE setup[21:08:59] <TheSin> cool board though[21:09:04] <cirdan> also has usb3, emmc[21:09:13] <TheSin> yeah it's nice for $45[21:09:32] <cirdan> and 1gb is only $25[21:09:51] <cirdan> also if you're not running drives off it it likely doesn't need 3a[21:09:57] <cirdan> just like the pi doesnt need 2.5a[21:10:34] <TheSin> the one one I have running octoprint sure does ;)[21:10:38] <cirdan> well[21:11:11] <cirdan> iirc this can do poe as well, 5v3a=15w[21:11:28] <cirdan> https://www.pine64.org/?product=rock64-poe-splitter[21:11:29] <cirdan> yup[21:11:40] <TheSin> yeah it can but that's lots when you have a large quantity[21:11:47] <cirdan> almost[21:11:56] <TheSin> switches have limites specially when my switches are 48 ports[21:12:13] <cirdan> yeah same[21:12:27] <TheSin> 48 ports running 15w each adds up[21:12:36] <cirdan> yeah[21:12:47] <TheSin> still a cool board though I might order one to run some tests[21:13:37] <cirdan> i think bbraun has a few[21:13:42] <cirdan> bbl[21:32:35] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[21:33:05] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[21:59:02] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[22:00:47] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[22:40:15] *** TheSin <TheSin!~TheSin@gateway.bluefalls.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting)[22:48:01] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[22:48:55] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[23:03:12] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)[23:04:10] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[23:19:38] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:20:42] *** Murr <Murr!~Murr@212-51-143-5.fiber7.init7.net> has joined #fink[23:56:04] *** amacks <amacks!~Adium@209.6.115.18> has joined #fink