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[10:00:52] <ImUs3r> Mars is newest?
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[10:05:20] <mvvvv> ImUs3r, Neon is the last released
[10:05:31] <mvvvv> Neon.2
[10:05:52] <ImUs3r> what is Oxygen?
[10:06:17] <mvvvv> the next one
[10:07:35] <mvvvv> Oxygen will be released June28,2017
[10:08:11] <ImUs3r> ok then EE vs java vs c/c++ vs android vs php vs .........
[10:08:16] <ImUs3r> which is good?
[10:08:35] <mvvvv> what are you looking for ?
[10:08:41] <ImUs3r> java
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[10:08:58] <ImUs3r> what is EE?
[10:09:21] <mvvvv> Entreprise Edition
[10:09:26] <mvvvv> for the web
[10:09:36] <ImUs3r> enterprise edition is good?
[10:10:06] <mvvvv> if you want to create servlet JSP or JSF and EJB ... yes
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[10:10:19] <ImUs3r> i think that EE is most popular
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[10:10:33] <ImUs3r> i can’t do android with EE?
[10:11:09] <mvvvv> no , you can install many eclipse packaging with Eclipse Installer
[10:12:08] <mvvvv> for android the eclipse product is Eclipse for Android Developers
[10:12:43] <ImUs3r> ok
[10:12:44] <ImUs3r> thanks
[10:12:46] <mvvvv> you can also download EE and add the plugins for android
[10:12:46] <ImUs3r> :)
[10:12:58] <ImUs3r> oh then EE is basic?
[10:13:08] <mvvvv> no
[10:13:28] <mvvvv> the basic is Eclipse Standard
[10:13:47] <mvvvv> the minimal is Eclipse Platform
[10:14:30] <mvvvv> then you add the plugins you want. But it's better to install one packaging for a given purpose
[10:14:55] <ImUs3r> ok thanks then i will install EE
[10:15:38] <mvvvv> not accurate if you don't want to create web developments
[10:16:17] <ImUs3r> i want to do pyDev
[10:16:19] <ImUs3r> :)
[10:16:21] <ImUs3r> with EE
[10:16:29] <ImUs3r> it is ok?
[10:17:17] <mvvvv> EE will download huge plugins you don't need at all
[10:17:43] <ImUs3r> i can’t do pyDev with EE?
[10:18:35] <mvvvv> you can but you'll waste your mem with unusefull plugins
[10:18:53] <ImUs3r> dont worry
[10:18:58] <ImUs3r> i have 2G mem
[10:19:00] <ImUs3r> :)
[10:19:15] <mvvvv> low
[10:19:31] <ImUs3r> lol
[10:19:39] <ImUs3r> 2G is bigger than 512 mb
[10:20:06] <mvvvv> java and eclipse take a lot of mem
[10:20:18] <ImUs3r> how much?
[10:21:42] <mvvvv> it depends on the unusefull plugins you launched with eclipse
[10:22:19] <ImUs3r> how many plugins EE have?
[10:23:53] <mvvvv> too many
[10:24:26] <mbooth> ImUs3r: For using PyDev, the basic Eclipse for Java Developers edition is fine
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[10:25:43] <ImUs3r> Eclipse IDE for Java Developers <— you mean this?
[10:26:15] <mbooth> Yes, it is the smallest download, so is less likely to contain stuff you don't need
[10:26:34] <ImUs3r> but i want to do jsp in the future
[10:26:50] <mbooth> You can always add more plugins at a later time
[10:27:00] <ImUs3r> oh really
[10:27:08] <ImUs3r> then i will use java only
[10:27:09] <ImUs3r> :)
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[11:28:18] <Tobbi_> Basically, object mapping mode doesn't seem to be working.
[11:28:33] <Tobbi_> I can't select any elements in the AUT.
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[13:43:31] <poseid> hmm.. this has been asked before but i can't see quickly what makes eclipse luna and eclipse mars different?
[13:44:01] <mbooth> poseid: Mars is a newer version compared with Luna
[13:45:21] <mbooth> poseid: But worth pointing out that the current newest version is "Neon"
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[13:46:08] <poseid> i see, ok - 4.5, 4.6
[13:46:09] <poseid> thanks
[13:47:00] <mbooth> poseid: These days the "name" of the release is alphabetical (like with Ubuntu) so the later on in the alphabet, the newer it is
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[13:57:19] <poseid> ok, background is that i live the java development with eclipse, and now want to try the same with c and c++
[13:57:32] <poseid> so, will be running multiple eclipse instances on the computer
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[14:03:06] <poseid> ok, just trying some quick things, when trying to build a c++ on windows and an embedded c project with cross compilation, i likely need to have 2 different workspaces on the eclipse instance?
[14:03:43] <poseid> also, just loud thinking, when i would try to build embedded code for an esp32 which has a different compiler than e.g. an arm core mcu, i also would need to run 2 workspaces
[14:05:01] <mbooth> poseid: I don't think you *need* different workspaces though; IIRC you can configure different toolchain for each project within a workspace
[14:05:23] <poseid> ok, that sounds logical too
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[14:10:16] <poseid> ok, feels like gcc is nicely supported, but now wondering how to build a c++ windows app - maybe via llvm ?
[14:11:55] <mbooth> poseid: I have no experience build windows apps, but I'd assume that mingw compilers can be used
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[14:13:07] <poseid> what is a CDT ?
[14:13:51] <mbooth> poseid: CDT == C/C++ Development Tooling -- AKA, the C/C++ plugin for Eclipse
[14:13:58] <poseid> :)
[14:13:59] <poseid> ok
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[16:32:05] <Case_Of_> hi
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<Arbalest> Welcome! If you have a question, just ask, or take a look at our FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ :) Try typing ~faq to see more FAQs! If you have errors or logs to show, see ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~image. You need to describe your problem in detail,so please provide some ~info about your setup. Don't ask to ask, just ask. You might also want to try http://mattermost.eclipse.org
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[16:32:42] <Case_Of_> how to move the arrow keys to other keys?
[16:32:57] <Case_Of_> it makes my fingers move too much
[16:33:28] <Case_Of_> on something like wasd
[16:33:49] <nitind> Check your ~keys preference page...and don't you need those keys for those characters?
[16:34:05] <nitind> Eclipse isn't modal like vi.
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[16:34:39] <Case_Of_> nitind: maybe with a key combination like one of those for dead characters
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[16:37:21] <Case_Of_> nitind: like alt+gr
[16:39:45] <Case_Of_> does it support alt gr?
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[16:40:26] <nitind> I don't know what that means. I use a US keyboard setting.
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[16:43:44] <Case_Of_> nitind: the Alt Gr key
[16:43:51] <Case_Of_> don't you have it?
[16:44:51] <mbooth> Case_Of_: Some machines don't have it (maybe Macs?)
[16:48:49] <Case_Of_> oh
[16:49:25] <Case_Of_> by the way in settings I haven't found where to edit the keybinds for arrows
[16:49:46] <Case_Of_> inside the list in Preferences General Keys
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[17:10:16] <nitind> mbooth: US keyboards do not have it.
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[18:11:26] <Guest47982> hi all. I found bug in Eclipse CDO. How i can to contribute?
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[18:15:20] <MaximMartynov> Yes i read this. But i not understand how to get acces to push for review
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[20:20:11] <poseid_> hi.... where do i set the build path of an existing c project with eclipse neon
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[20:23:21] <poseid_> ok somewhere on the build path
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