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[00:13:48] <repxxl> Hello eclipse folks, is there any good ftp synchronizer ? i have remote system explorer now but i wanted something that automatically synchons my files a more handy ftp plugin maybe.
[00:18:30] <repxxl> ?ň
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[05:02:24] <vaxxon> Having a horrible time trying to get a remote setup working. I'm trying to write unix software from my windows machine, with a linux vm. I've got RSE working, I'm running the rseserver daemon.pl on my VM. I've got PTP installed. I've made a remote project...
[05:03:19] <vaxxon> Problem is that in spite of picking 'remote linux gcc tool chain' for my toolchain, I still get warnings about g++ and gcc not being found in my path, my remote includes directories are all listed as not existing or being accessible.
[05:03:48] <vaxxon> And yet I can verify that it's talking to the vm, because project files and source files are being generated.
[05:04:32] <vaxxon> Google isn't helping one bit. I tried rtfm, but tfm seems to be written as if nothing could ever go wrong, here. ;)
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[07:47:23] <rihbyne> hello,I facing a issue on adding external JARs to my project. anyone there ?
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[08:08:55] <rihbyne> hello guys anyone there
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[08:09:57] <LunarPathway> theres plenty of people here
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[08:13:27] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: I am facing a issue after adding external JARs. now, these jars are not named package so they reside in default package.
[08:13:58] <vaxxon> There's plenty of people here. It's just that no one with answers to anyone's problems is paying attention. ;)
[08:15:36] <rihbyne> I am using eclipse luna with jdk 7.after adding these JAR's I am getting unable tor resolve error. how can I accese these library with default package ?
[08:16:54] <LunarPathway> if you added external jars, then they are referenced libraries, not default package
[08:17:36] <LunarPathway> default package is what you get when you go adding code willy nilly to the src folder without creating a proper package first
[08:18:43] <LunarPathway> in order to access the referenced libraries, external or not, you need to "import" them.
[08:21:55] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: here is current project structure http://postimg.org/image/jixmjx7az
[08:23:53] <LunarPathway> and you wish to access stdlib.jar and algs-whatever. jar, right?
[08:24:30] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: yes but I know in order to access them I need named packages.
[08:25:03] <LunarPathway> so go back and reorganize them into proper packing, and then re-export them again
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[08:26:00] <LunarPathway> honestly, i dont know why java, or eclipse for that matter, allows default packaging if theyre not going to support accessing them in some way
[08:26:12] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: ok,so I after repacking them in jars I need to use import from file menu so that they show up in referenceed libraries ?
[08:26:22] <LunarPathway> no
[08:26:37] <LunarPathway> add them to the build path under the library tab
[08:26:49] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: okay noted.
[08:26:51] <LunarPathway> the import happens in the accessing code file
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[08:27:28] <rihbyne> LunarPathway: how much is the learning curve for eclipse, have any idea? sometimes I use Intellij
[08:28:06] <LunarPathway> importing from the file menu does a lot of other things, but it doesn't involve referencing libraries as far as i know
[08:28:38] <LunarPathway> id say its about a 45 degree angle
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[08:29:46] <LunarPathway> by that i mean that it just keeps getting better, but it also just keeps getting steeper
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[08:30:35] <vaxxon> Lunar, maybe you have some insight into my issue, since it seems like you weren't here when I asked. If not, no big...
[08:31:02] <LunarPathway> i did log in a few minutes ago, what is the issue
[08:31:47] <vaxxon> I'm trying to get code completion and outlining to work on C, when running eclipse on a windows box and using RSE/PTP to access a linux vm.
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[08:32:21] <LunarPathway> *boggle* umm
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[08:32:38] <vaxxon> I managed to at least get it to see the includes. But outline doesn't work. Code completion doesn't work. Hovering my mouse pointer over code allows me to see some definitions.. until I start editing the code.
[08:32:42] <vaxxon> Then I need to re-index.
[08:33:12] <vaxxon> My fallback plan is going to be to just mount the includes via samba or something, and use a local project.
[08:33:51] <LunarPathway> i think there is a package for c/c++ that adds code completion but i don't remember the name, try googling that with the addition of Eclipse Marketplace as a quote-surrounded search term
[08:34:00] <rihbyne> Lunar also I prefer java project structure used in these examples  http://openejb.apache.org/examples-trunk/index.html .Do you recommend maintaining any other standard project structure for projects ?
[08:36:23] <LunarPathway> ribhyne, yes, I recommend always adding packages first, and including a package-info.java file which can be auto included in the creation of the package
[08:37:02] <LunarPathway> that way you don't get empty package folders and have to futz aboput with invisible packaging
[08:37:29] <LunarPathway> *about
[08:38:54] <LunarPathway> as for putting which code in which packages, that seems to be a code pattern thing, but a lot of folks in the gaming community seem to like MVC, you might try looking that up
[08:39:04] <vaxxon> Thanks, Lunar. No dice, but was worth a shot. ;)
[08:39:42] <LunarPathway> sorry, vaxxon, i havent actually used Eclipse for c although i have known for a while it can be done
[08:40:56] <vaxxon> Oh, doing c isn't the problem. It's trying to target a different machine that's the problem. :)
[08:41:11] <vaxxon> The documentation for eclipse seems like a complete disaster. :(
[08:41:50] <LunarPathway> heh, well, the only multi-platform eclipse work ive done so far is to export a runnable jar directly accross my lan to my linux desktop
[08:44:59] <rihbyne> vaxxon: are there steps or initiative made to improvise documentation ?
[08:46:33] <vaxxon> I have no idea. I do know that in trying to solve my problem, I've run across numerous descriptions of how to go about things. They're seldom describing the IDE as it exists right now, and they seldom agree with one another. ;)
[08:47:04] <LunarPathway> how exactly do you need to access the vm?
[08:47:27] <LunarPathway> is this for saving files, reading files, socket comms, or what?
[08:47:49] <vaxxon> I can access it any way I want. All I'm trying to do is learn unix coding without installing unix on my system. That's why my fallback is to just use samba mounts.
[08:48:12] <LunarPathway> ah
[08:48:30] <LunarPathway> sounds like you should have a look at java, bud
[08:48:46] <vaxxon> However, my workstation at work is a mac. And it would be very useful to take this knowledge and apply it there, so I can write code for linux directly from my workstation.
[08:49:08] <rihbyne> vaxxon: how about this https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2#.VHl6YHWUfDE
[08:49:18] <vaxxon> I know java. What I don't know is unix networking in c. I'm not trying to solve any particular problem right now. ;)
[08:49:39] <LunarPathway> java code under normal situations should execute the same on windows, mac, or linux
[08:50:02] <vaxxon> Heh. Thanks, rihbyne. I know linux very well, though.
[08:50:55] <vaxxon> This whole thing started because I'm writing python code, and want to use twisted. But before I delve into asynchronous network programming, I thought it would make sense to learn it the 'normal' way, since network coding is something I've never bothered with before.
[08:51:13] <LunarPathway> here's an idea, many of the old MUD code basii were written in C to run on Linux/Unix
[08:51:20] <vaxxon> So I started learning the sockets module on python. This led to me wanting to see the sockets module under c.
[08:51:35] <vaxxon> And that led to me starting to write some server code under c on unix.
[08:51:43] <vaxxon> And THAT led to me wanting to have full ide support. ;)
[08:51:48] <LunarPathway> Have a look at ROM code base for an idea how to use unix networking in c
[08:51:56] <vaxxon> And THAT led to me installing eclipse for the reasons mentioned.
[08:52:36] <vaxxon> Another fallback is, of course, simply adding a gui to my linux vm and coding directly there.
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[09:01:42] <LunarPathway> vaxxon, if you would like to see the file I was referring to, i finally found a link: --> http://www.mudbytes.net/file-914
[09:02:05] <LunarPathway> it is a cleaned-up version of the final release of ROM
[09:03:29] <LunarPathway> of course, that only addresses telnet usage on linux-unix, other services will need further searching
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[09:28:04] <vaxxon> Yeah. I'm really not lacking for examples. All i wanted was an ide to make the learning process for networking go smoother, is all.
[09:28:39] <vaxxon> As I said, my goal is really just to have an intuitive understanding so I can move to asynch network coding. I'm going without an ide, now. Back to vi. Not a big deal.
[09:28:42] <vaxxon> But thanks.
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[09:34:25] <LunarPathway> yep
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[16:55:46] <Sylvia> Hello fellows!
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[16:56:12] <Gata_Mala> Which is the difference between Eclipse marketplace and Install new software?
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[17:30:31] <Gata_Mala> Nobody?
[17:30:31] <Gata_Mala> Please
[17:30:34] <Gata_Mala> I need help really
[17:30:37] <Gata_Mala> I have no friends
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[18:43:51] <ubuntuisloved> I have the latest version of eclipse and all possible updates. Luna 4.4.0 IDE for java dev's. When I click on a project to add external archives it just doesn't do anything. Any idea's what's up with this?
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[19:43:34] <nitind> ubuntuisloved: They're not added to the Java Build Path. Also, see the channel topic?
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[20:02:31] <ubuntuisloved> nitind: When you say they are not added to the java build path. I also tried adding external jar's through the build path and sometimes it works other times it blinks and never loads a file dialog.
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[20:05:34] <nitind> ubuntuisloved: It was meant to be a question. But I'd try it with 4.4.1 just to be sure.
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[20:46:20] <ubuntuisloved> nitind: okay thanks I'll try that
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[21:11:20] <flwico> that is 64bit?  http://developer.eclipsesource.com/technology/epp/luna/eclipse-standard-luna-SR1-win32-x86_64.zip
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[21:13:27] <flwico> Eclipse---------------------------Java was started but returned exit code=13 C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath\javaw.exe -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion= 1.7 -Xms40m -Xmx512m-XX:MaxPermSize=256m  -jar D:\andff\ecnew\eclipse\\plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.3.0.v20140415- 2008.jar os win32 -ws  win32 -arch x86_64
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[22:06:16] <worblehat> hi
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[22:06:43] <worblehat> I am trying to write an Eclipse RCP 3.x Application for the first time
[22:06:57] <worblehat> I created a new project using the "Hello RCP" template
[22:08:05] <worblehat> I created an empty ViewPart and added it to the layout in createInitialLayout of the perspective class
[22:08:14] <flwico> Eclipse---------------------------Java was started but returned exit code=13 C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath\javaw.exe -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion= 1.7 -Xms40m -Xmx512m-XX:MaxPermSize=256m  -jar D:\andff\ecnew\eclipse\\plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.3.0.v20140415- 2008.jar os win32 -ws  win32 -arch x86_64
[22:08:25] <worblehat> but the view is not displayed and I found out that createInitialLayout() never gets called
[22:08:31] <worblehat> any ideas why?
[22:08:48] <flwico> jdk-8u25-windows-x64.exe , eclipse-standard-luna-SR1-win32-x86_64.zip
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[22:47:44] <new0> hi everyone. currently i am debugging PHP but when i HIT F5 or F6 to move fawrder it's only show me on Debug window the line but not moving between the lines on my editor
[22:47:48] <new0> any help:
[22:47:50] <new0> >
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