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[09:26:45] <toulmean> oisinh: hey!
[09:55:43] <the_alien> *bored*
[10:11:05] <toulmean> the_alien: hey
[10:11:16] <toulmean> so di you get the cocoa 64 bits ?
[10:11:25] <toulmean> they made a classic SDK with it for M4 it seems
[10:12:03] <the_alien> haven't tried, yesterday i've written exam
[10:12:13] <the_alien> and now i'm at work without my macbook
[10:12:20] <toulmean> ah.
[10:13:03] <the_alien> but having 2 NPEs to fix for the whole week is ... not much work
[10:13:18] <toulmean> the_alien: so, still blocked right now ? with running an eclipse app ?
[10:13:19] <the_alien> even though i'm not allowed to check in due to release candidate builds
[10:13:22] <the_alien> so i'm bored
[10:13:56] <the_alien> no, my company notebook can run eclipse apps
[10:13:58] <toulmean> if it's your own computer you can install whatever you want on it
[10:14:08] <toulmean> ok misread you
[10:14:12] <toulmean> sorry.
[10:14:25] <the_alien> i can install whatever i want ;)
[10:14:30] <the_alien> noone cares...
[10:14:42] <toulmean> well, take time to look at some crazy stuff
[10:14:45] <toulmean> SWTBot
[10:14:56] <the_alien> what is swt bot?
[10:15:02] <toulmean> we're looking for extra hands to build an extension to buildr to build eclipse projects
[10:15:16] <toulmean> if you want to get started with a new language, try ruby
[10:15:23] <toulmean> aha
[10:15:24] <toulmean> :)
[10:15:50] <toulmean> you're working on a UI piece, right ? SWTBot helps building tests to build UI
[10:16:26] <the_alien> ah looks nice
[10:18:16] <the_alien> not ruby...
[10:20:17] <toulmean> come on!
[10:20:48] <toulmean> ruby is very good, but you'll need textMate
[10:23:44] <the_alien> why do you need an extension?
[10:24:17] <toulmean> of buildr ?
[10:24:26] <the_alien> yeah
[10:25:10] <toulmean> read on here: http://www.lunar-ocean.com/building-eclipse-plugins-with-buildr/
[10:28:38] <the_alien> not my favorite to hack a buildsystem i don't know, in a language i have to learn for this task and extent it for the eclipse plugin build i haven't understood completely ;)
[10:29:10] <toulmean> start with a rails app
[10:29:35] <toulmean> or a ruby script.
[10:30:09] <toulmean> For example, if you repeat a command, or would like to make your life simpler with a ruby command, grab it
[10:33:43] <toulmean> hey, just now for example I need to use my very own globalreplace script.
[10:38:47] <the_alien> i'm not convinced ;)
[10:41:02] <toulmean> not convinced by rails ?
[10:41:43] <the_alien> ruby
[10:42:06] <toulmean> do you have some other scripting language you like ?
[10:42:21] <toulmean> are you more into perl, haskell ?
[10:42:48] <the_alien> i'm not really scripting at all
[10:43:31] <toulmean> how do you build your product ?
[10:43:45] <the_alien> ant
[10:44:04] <the_alien> and finalbuilder
[10:44:06] <the_alien> afaik
[10:44:15] <toulmean> well then you do some scripting, with ant.
[10:44:42] <the_alien> i've written a few lines yeah. but most of the work is done by the admins of our build system
[10:45:27] <toulmean> at intalio devs do their own build system themselves
[10:47:41] <the_alien> made the headless build for my (ex)project... the requirement was : has to run with ynt
[10:47:42] <the_alien> ant
[10:48:08] <oisinh> toulmean: hey
[10:48:15] <toulmean> hey oisinh
[10:48:29] <toulmean> I am still having the same issue with the build
[10:48:41] <oisinh> even with the change to the regex?
[10:48:44] <toulmean> the org.eclipse.stp.bpmn plugin is left out
[10:48:50] <the_alien> doing an own buildsystem for every project wouldn't be maintainable
[10:49:13] <toulmean> I tried changing it to org\.eclipse\.stp\.bpmn.* now
[10:49:23] <toulmean> building a dummy site, will tell you soon
[10:49:42] <toulmean> the_alien: indeed. That's a bit of an issue to assemble it afterwards
[10:49:51] <oisinh> great.  once the plugin is referenced by a feature it should be pulled in
[10:50:02] <oisinh> provided it doesn't get filtered out by the regex
[10:50:17] <toulmean> oisinh: yep, every time it is built, it is just not packaged
[10:55:11] <toulmean> ok it worked.
[10:55:50] <toulmean> so oisinh: just so you know buckminster doesn't support this kind of regexp: org\.eclipse\.stp\.bpmn(\..*)?
[10:56:09] <toulmean> or at least it doesn't validate against org.eclipse.stp.bpmn
[10:59:45] <oisinh> yes it should not validate against it
[11:00:19] <oisinh> it will validate against org.eclipse.stp.bpmn.something - note the dot after the bpmn - it is looking for that dot.
[11:00:23] <oisinh> so all correct now?
[11:01:14] <toulmean> oisinh: well now, this regexp here was the one you employed at first: org\.eclipse\.stp\.bpmn(\..*)?
[11:01:18] <toulmean> I think it is valid
[11:01:45] <toulmean> it says, zero or one of (dot with any characters)
[11:01:55] <toulmean> so it should validate against org.eclipse.stp.bpmn
[11:02:17] <toulmean> my fix is to do org.eclipse.stp.bpmn.*, so take org.eclipse.stp.bpmn(whatever)
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