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[09:45:49] <the_alien> so posted to platform newgroup
[09:46:00] <toulmean> ok
[09:46:07] <the_alien> hope they could help me
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[10:05:15] <toulmean> when is the call starting ?
[10:05:45] <steph__> now
[10:05:59] <toulmean> steph__: who shall I call ?
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[10:06:15] <steph__> I asked Jerry to add you to the conf call
[10:06:38] <toulmean> ok
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[10:07:48] <toulmean> steph__: this is weird, I see no notifications
[10:08:01] <toulmean> did Jerry add me to his contacts ?
[10:08:08] <toulmean> my login is toulmean
[10:08:22] <steph__> he is trying to add you...
[10:08:56] <toulmean> I'm in thanks
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[13:57:33] * toulmean just fixed the damn jruby path issue.
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[14:14:36] <toulmean> hello oisin
[14:14:42] <toulmean> oisinh
[14:14:47] <oisinh> hi
[14:14:52] <toulmean> I am going to start building bpmn for M4
[14:14:57] <toulmean> jruby is fixed
[14:16:39] <oisinh> great
[14:16:56] <toulmean> so is it a good time to do a RC build ?
[14:17:35] <oisinh> if you want to go ahead with BPMN yes do so
[14:17:48] <oisinh> Couple of things to do before I can do all the other pieces
[14:17:49] <toulmean> ok.
[14:17:54] <oisinh> what's the date for M4 again?
[14:17:59] <toulmean> 5th of Jan.
[14:18:22] <toulmean> the problem for you is that sdrapeau is leaving today
[14:18:29] <oisinh> lucky man
[14:18:29] <toulmean> coming back on the 10th
[14:19:05] <oisinh> when I do an overall build I'll include sca-tools
[14:19:26] <toulmean> ok
[14:20:07] <toulmean> did anybody ever use SWTBot before ?
[14:20:07] <toulmean> giving it a shot today
[14:20:07] <oisinh> good, I haven;t used it yet but it is "on the list" :)
[14:22:32] <oisinh> I'm on a plane later today, so won't get too much work done, but I'll fix up the top level build
[14:23:09] <oisinh> unfortunately the bug with headless build on mac still needs to be chased down.
[14:23:26] <oisinh> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=258587
[14:25:58] <toulmean> ok
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[15:18:15] <toulmean> bpmn build is running...
[15:18:28] <toulmean> build.site is running right now.
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[15:56:04] <toulmean> oisin: I just gave a try at swtbot
[15:56:13] <oisin> what do you think?
[15:56:27] <toulmean> it's not magic. You have to write code that opens and writes text:
[15:56:36] <toulmean> bot.editor("blah");
[15:56:59] <toulmean> bot.text("Hello").setText("something else");
[15:57:08] <toulmean> so it's a bit heavy weight.
[15:57:10] <oisin> I didn't expect magic :)
[15:57:23] <toulmean> and well, for GMF based diagram editor, it's a long run
[15:57:29] <oisin> yeah sounds like it!
[15:57:42] <toulmean> even for an editor like the manifest editor for example
[15:57:51] <toulmean> it would be difficult to test stuff.
[15:57:54] <oisin> prob. need something like windowtester or something
[15:58:22] <toulmean> yep. I think it would be possible to record the mouse and the key typing
[15:58:26] <toulmean> and go from there
[15:58:49] <toulmean> otherwise it's too basic
[15:58:58] <toulmean> interesting for swt though.
[15:59:23] <oisin> yeah you are right.
[16:13:51] <the_alien> noone answers my newsgroup post :/
[16:14:28] <toulmean> the_alien: most people are just habving breakfast now.
[16:14:44] <toulmean> also the problem with your bug is that it is hardly reproducible.
[16:15:01] <toulmean> I'd say open a bug ?
[16:15:05] <toulmean> and get bootcamp for now
[16:15:15] <the_alien> and in a few days it is forgotten
[16:15:25] <toulmean> you tried the coca build ?
[16:15:39] <the_alien> yeah, that was the build, that wont even start
[16:16:02] <toulmean> it doesn't start. Interesting :)
[16:16:25] <toulmean> maybe you need to switch your java version to jdk6 for that
[16:16:42] <toulmean> try changing JAVA_HOME maybe, and try again ?
[16:17:11] <the_alien> hm maybe, but i got a "permission denied" error
[16:21:52] <toulmean> what's the full error ?
[16:22:13] <the_alien> dont know any more, posted it here yesterday
[16:22:47] <toulmean> ok, what gives JAVA_HOME now ?
[16:23:15] <the_alien> haven't changed it
[16:23:34] <the_alien> will do it later, we're learning for exam on monday
[16:23:40] <toulmean> ok
[16:23:41] <toulmean> ttyl
[16:25:32] <toulmean> when you are back, try cd /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/
[16:25:37] <toulmean> then rm Current
[16:25:46] <toulmean> then ln -s 1.6 Current
[16:25:52] <toulmean> then try running the cocoa build again
[16:28:28] <toulmean> everybody, we have an unsigned bpmn build ready!
[16:28:37] <toulmean> pushed to /home/data/httpd/download.eclipse.org/stp/committers/updates/
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