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[03:59:10] <Feng> hi!
[03:59:35] <Feng> anyone knows about stp bpmn modeler?
[04:03:32] <Feng> no one is familiar with it?
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[05:07:52] <grid_> hi, guys! I want ask a question about bpmn
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[07:46:37] <renatz> Hi Guys
[07:46:44] <renatz> So what are we doing with the telco?
[07:46:57] <renatz> Last time the Telco we organize though the German provider wasn't very accessable
[07:47:24] <renatz> any suggestions how to improve it?
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[09:42:50] <toulmean> grid_: ~ask
[09:42:50] <KOS-MOS> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[09:43:30] <toulmean> renatz: well, not sure we have something better to offer.
[09:46:29] <toulmean> renatz: maybe Eclipse still offers to host telcos
[09:47:25] <toulmean> grid_: I replied to you on the newsgroup
[10:17:13] <grid_> o, thanks toulmean
[10:27:13] <toulmean> grid_: np
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[17:05:44] <oisinh> toulmean:  what revision did you commit the build.site to?
[17:05:52] <oisinh> toulmean: just I'm not seeing it (I think(
[17:06:40] <oisinh> toulmean:  I've got to go find some breakfast, back soon.
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[17:23:23] <toulmean> oisinh: now it's in, sorry
[17:23:44] <oisinAWAY> great!
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[17:24:14] <oisinh> I'm off to do a build now see if I can spot anything
[17:24:28] <toulmean> still have to walk my dog, he's growing impatient
[17:24:52] <oisinh> go for it :) I am eating a muffin.
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[17:35:44] <toulmean> oisinh: ok going now
[17:36:11] <toulmean> oisinh: still have that sp.manifest error, working on it when back, unless that rings a bell
[17:36:16] <oisinh> ok cool. I did a build run, no issues, didn't build the site tho', sop mut have done something wrong
[17:36:23] <oisinh> the sp:manifest is an internal buckminster things
[17:36:33] <oisinh> it's not a property in the ant or anything like that
[17:36:50] <oisinh> talk later...
[17:37:32] <toulmean> did you try: build trunk build.site
[17:37:45] <oisinh> errr can't remember :)
[17:38:01] <toulmean> up arrow should tell you that ?
[17:38:06] <oisinh> typed while eating muffin. will do that :)
[17:38:49] <oisinh> toulmean: enjoy your walk, will have some news foe you when you are back...
[17:38:53] <oisinh> ^foe^for^
[17:39:01] <toulmean> ok
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[17:56:35] <sdrapeau> Hi Oisin
[17:56:45] <oisinh> sdrapeau: hi!
[17:56:48] <sdrapeau> I would like to update you on my progress concerning M4.
[17:56:58] <sdrapeau> SCA Tools has been added to the wiki page of Galileo + to the bug
[17:57:04] <sdrapeau> We have a project plan in XML format : http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=stp.sca
[17:57:15] <sdrapeau> Our plugins use Eclipse msg bundles
[17:57:23] <sdrapeau> The last requierement to complete is the build (signing, builds; optimization, ...).
[17:57:29] <oisinh> sdrapeau: like the project plan.
[17:57:36] <sdrapeau> Do you see other "must do" for M4?
[17:57:59] <oisinh> I think what you have is what we need for M4
[17:58:16] <sdrapeau> ok
[17:58:17] <oisinh> there is a build in place for you, but I need to update the instructions on the signing and optimization.
[17:58:18] <sdrapeau> How can I help you concerning the build?
[17:58:24] <sdrapeau> ok
[17:59:10] <oisinh> sdrapeau:  the how-to-build is out of date :  http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/stp/org.eclipse.stp.build/build/trunk/how-to-build.txt
[17:59:42] <oisinh> sdrapeau:  if you could take a look at it and maybe try some of the steps out it would be a help in debugging
[18:00:00] <sdrapeau> ok
[18:00:01] <oisinh> sdrapeau:  did I tell you how to run the SCA Tools local build?
[18:00:07] <sdrapeau> no
[18:00:13] <oisinh> ok. I'll do that first.
[18:02:25] <oisinh> sdrapeau: I will do a quick write up and you can try it out and tell me how it works out
[18:02:27] <toulmean> oisinh: back from the walk
[18:03:08] <oisinh> toulmean: so the bpmn update site builds when it's run directly from the ant scripts, so I am thinking there must be a property missing or something like that
[18:03:19] <oisinh> toulmean:  when it is being built from the ruby script
[18:03:29] <toulmean> or it is set for your profile and not mine ?
[18:03:45] <toulmean> like the JAVA_HOME issue I ran into
[18:03:50] <oisinh> toulmean:  no, the ruby build gives me exactly the same message as it gives you
[18:03:54] <toulmean> ah
[18:03:58] <toulmean> then...
[18:04:12] <toulmean> I'll think hard of it
[18:04:18] <oisinh> toulmean: the complicated message that it can't find ${sp:manifest}  I think just means that one of the directories is missing or pointing to the wrong palce
[18:04:37] <toulmean> ok
[18:06:48] <oisinh> it's almost like the directory gets mv'ed before it gets on to the build.site target...
[18:07:06] <toulmean> oh oh.
[18:07:13] <toulmean> is the ant command asynchronous ?
[18:07:33] <toulmean> let me try, commenting my mv commands
[18:07:39] <oisinh> yeah good idea
[18:07:47] <toulmean> you know I might just remove those if that's needed
[18:07:59] <toulmean> if it really isn't a good idea
[18:08:15] <oisinh> try it with those commented out for the moment.
[18:09:23] <oisinh> toulmean: I don't think it's a bad idea, really. I've got all the stuff 'hidden' in the buckminster directory because the only thing that is really useful is the end result, i.e. the p2 metadata repo and the archived update site.
[18:14:10] <toulmean> oisinh: ok, so there is no way right now to just build a feature ?
[18:14:24] <toulmean> is it something that is relevant, I mean, having a feature
[18:18:45] <toulmean> sdrapeau: nice template for the plan, I might do a massive steal from your stuff.
[18:18:50] <oisinh> toulmean:  just a single feature, on it's own, and the plugins?  It's possible to write some build instructions to do just that, if you wanted to.
[18:19:04] <toulmean> oisinh: well might not be interesting.
[18:19:23] <toulmean> however I believe my company would rather consume the build as a feature.
[18:19:33] <oisinh> toulmean:  maybe, if it does become interesting, put in a bugzilla...
[18:19:48] <toulmean> oisinh: ok
[18:19:50] <oisinh> toulmean: btw that project plan is an eclipse-supplied thing.
[18:19:59] <oisinh> toulmean: we all need to do that for Galileo
[18:20:17] <toulmean> yeah, figured the build would come first, but I have it in mind
[18:20:39] <toulmean> I tried the capabilities thing btw, and didn't make sense of it
[18:20:48] <toulmean> we can talk about it later
[18:20:54] <toulmean> let's make it work first.
[18:21:09] <toulmean> so the bad news is that it doesn't work
[18:21:15] <toulmean> without the mv instructions
[18:21:19] <oisinh> still getting the issue, ok
[18:21:24] <toulmean> experimenting some more
[18:21:52] <oisinh> stick a -v onto the ant command to make it give you more text
[18:23:36] <toulmean> I'm trying to run the ant command directly that is normally wrapped by ruby
[18:23:40] <toulmean> the ant command is:
[18:23:42] <toulmean> cd ./buckminster ; $ANT_HOME/bin/ant -Dbase.directory=1228843429/build.site -Dpde.target.platform.path=/shared/stp/platforms/3.5M3/eclipse -Dproject.tag=trunk -Dproject.build=. build.site
[18:24:01] <toulmean> it's building, give it 3 minutes
[18:26:46] <toulmean> and it's still building
[18:27:10] <toulmean> and finally got the same error.
[18:27:34] <toulmean> oisin, if you run exactly the same ant command, do you have the same error occuring ?
[18:27:44] <oisinh> toulmean: I'll try it now.
[18:28:43] <oisinh> toulmean:  ok that's running, I think it may have something to do perhaps with the relative paths...
[18:28:50] <toulmean> it might be because I made a change in build.xml to have build.site depend on build
[18:29:02] <toulmean> I removed my change, running again
[18:29:06] <oisinh> ok
[18:34:45] <oisinh> toulmean: I'm fairly sure it's a relative path thing, now I'm just finding out which property can't be a relative path
[18:35:13] <toulmean> oisinh: ok
[18:35:19] <toulmean> you seem to be on spot
[18:37:05] <oisinh> toulmean:  ok got it, the base.directory cannot be relative
[18:37:22] <toulmean> allright
[18:37:30] <toulmean> I'll do a ruby trick for that
[18:37:31] <toulmean> thanks
[18:37:42] <oisinh> toulmean: this is because it gets intepreted by ant and interpreted by buckminster as two different places if it is relative :)
[18:38:01] <oisinh> toulmean: cool, let me know when you've committed and I can do a test
[18:48:35] <oisinh> sdrapeau: sent an email to the list with sca tools build instructions...fairly light
[18:51:31] <toulmean> oisinh: ok, I use absolute paths, and that works, I am cleaning up the code, running one more build to be sure everything is ok, and committing
[18:51:39] <oisinh> toulmean: thx
[19:03:18] * oisinh says ouch! I can't believe this hotel is throttling the bandwidth! 35KB/sec only!
[19:03:38] <toulmean> oisinh: at least you have a connection
[19:03:52] <toulmean> I bet you are in California...
[19:03:56] <oisinh>  toulmean: well, the US is good for that at least
[19:04:00] <oisinh> toulmean: yes.
[19:04:15] <toulmean> well the internet connection is typical
[19:04:28] <toulmean> you get better bandwidth in a coffee shop :)
[19:04:29] <oisinh> toulmean: I seriously thought it would be a lot quicker here.
[19:04:36] <toulmean> oh no
[19:04:39] <oisinh> toulmean: yeah thinking of doing that
[19:04:52] <toulmean> my home connection in France is twice faster than the office connection in Palo Alto
[19:05:06] <toulmean> and they pay twice the price I pay
[19:05:21] <oisinh> toulmean: wow.
[19:05:22] <toulmean> and I get TV and phone is free, included.
[19:05:28] <oisinh> toulmean: cool!
[19:05:32] <toulmean> yep
[19:05:35] <toulmean> come to live in France.
[19:06:17] <oisinh> toulmean:  I will have to wait until I am not so fat before I can live in France :)
[19:06:36] <oisinh> toulmean:  food is much too appealing ;)
[19:06:47] <toulmean> I lost 5 kg eating cheese in France when I came back from the US
[19:07:00] * oisinh finds an  eclipse platform on his disk already....
[19:07:16] <oisinh> toulmean: awesome! I think I put on 5kg eating cheese in France last July!
[19:07:20] <toulmean> allright, I'll let you actually work.
[19:07:26] <oisinh> toulmean: it's the cheese equilibrium...
[19:07:30] <toulmean> lol
[19:07:45] <toulmean> well I'd love to live in Ireland.
[19:07:53] <oisinh> toulmean: rain.
[19:07:55] <toulmean> my wife would love that even more
[19:08:00] <toulmean> well we have that too
[19:08:15] <toulmean> we have rain, despair, renault factories, sarkozy and all
[19:08:43] <toulmean> so we'd certainly move to ireland, things would be the same.
[19:08:45] <oisinh> toulmean: we have rain, wind, recession, bad pork, fucked up budget, heinous traffic
[19:08:59] <oisinh> toulmean: but the bars have introduced a price freeze :)
[19:09:01] <toulmean> darn
[19:09:13] <toulmean> not sure that one helps.
[19:09:30] <oisinh> also now I can get  24MB internet connection :)
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[19:40:45] <sdrapeau> I'm back. Sorry.
[19:40:48] <sdrapeau> Ouch many discussion during my absence
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