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[09:36:46] <toulmean> hello sdrapeau
[09:37:01] <toulmean> what do you think of the recommendations for the build ?
[09:42:34] <sdrapeau> hi Antoine
[09:42:49] <sdrapeau> I agree with the idea that each project has its own build
[09:42:49] <sdrapeau> + automatically generated websites
[09:42:53] <sdrapeau> etc.
[09:46:21] <sdrapeau> I'm interested also for a common working session on IRc to set up the build process and an introduction to Buckminster
[09:46:37] <toulmean> so I have your +1
[09:46:38] <toulmean> ok
[09:46:42] <sdrapeau> I would like to do this before the 12 of december
[09:46:56] <toulmean> got a build coming up ?
[09:46:57] <toulmean> ok
[09:47:05] <sdrapeau> I will be on vacation from the 12 of december to the 10 of january
[09:47:20] <toulmean> you're lucky
[09:47:21] <toulmean> ok
[09:47:26] <sdrapeau> :)
[09:47:42] <toulmean> either you post this info to the mailing list or I do it
[09:47:47] <toulmean> let's target Thursday
[09:47:57] <toulmean> ok ?
[09:48:42] <sdrapeau> If I'm right, we must set-up the build process for M4 ?
[09:48:45] <sdrapeau> ok
[09:49:00] <toulmean> yep
[09:49:05] <toulmean> and M4 is ...
[09:49:17] <sdrapeau> 5 of January ?
[09:50:06] <sdrapeau> yep M4+3 is 5 of January
[09:50:59] <toulmean> f***
[09:51:09] <toulmean> we'd better start even earlier
[09:51:37] <toulmean> we should do this tomorrow
[09:51:56] <toulmean> and make sure we have a build in the telco of the 12th
[09:52:09] <toulmean> ok, so who's writing to the list
[09:52:10] <sdrapeau> yep
[09:52:18] <toulmean> feel like writing to the list ?
[09:53:21] <sdrapeau> I have a meeting at 10 (in 6 minutes). So, if you want you can do it, or I will do it in the afternoon
[09:54:46] <toulmean> I'll do it
[09:54:50] <toulmean> we need to move fast
[09:56:11] <sdrapeau> Moreover, your english is better than mine :-P
[09:56:15] <sdrapeau> Thanks Antoine
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[10:38:10] <the_alien> toulmean: ?
[11:15:25] <toulmean> the_alien: yes ?
[11:16:00] <the_alien> hi :)
[11:16:09] <toulmean> is that about the properties section thing ?
[11:16:18] <toulmean> did you check the EclipseCon 2007 tutorial ?
[11:16:19] <the_alien> just one short question ;)
[11:16:27] <toulmean> we created a properties section in that one
[11:16:44] <the_alien> ShapeColorsAndFontsPropertySectionEx is for what?
[11:16:59] <the_alien> yeah, i can create property sections ;)
[11:17:40] <the_alien> just the appearance section with the options for connections got missing somehow ;)
[11:18:18] <toulmean> Shape..Ex is for a specialized properties section
[11:18:43] <toulmean> in short GMF does not let connections set their foreground and background color for their label
[11:19:08] <toulmean> I added that so now it is possible to set the font of a label, set its background, set its foreground
[11:20:34] <the_alien> is it correct, that there are 2 "Fonts and Colors:" groups, one disabled and one enabled?
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[11:22:14] <VZurczak> Hi. :)
[11:22:25] <the_alien> hi
[11:22:33] <toulmean> the_alien: I don't have that
[11:22:40] <toulmean> what do you select to see that happening
[11:28:03] <the_alien> ah, my filter is wrong for the connection property tab
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[13:53:47] * toulmean is firefighting his own stuff, and hasn't started looking at the build just yet, sorry for putting pressure
[14:00:19] <the_alien> ?
[14:00:52] <toulmean> see discussion on stp-dev, we need to work quickly on the build system
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[14:22:24] * oisinh is having his lunch right now - has done a level of SVN cleanup already
[15:10:32] * oisinh has committed an update to adjust the locations of the repositories in the build and is building
[15:21:11] <oisinh> Ok, build update works, 11 minutes to build an update site on the eclipse infrastructure.
[15:21:30] <toulmean> that's for a global build right ?
[15:21:56] <oisinh> toulmean: that's for a global build off trunk using 3.5M3 as the sanity-check platform.
[15:22:21] <toulmean> ok
[15:22:30] <oisinh> toulmean: I'm going to work on a sample 'mini-build' for a project.
[15:22:42] <oisinh> toulmean:  will I kick one off for BPMN?
[15:22:46] <toulmean> ok, sorry still firefighting
[15:22:48] <toulmean> feel free to
[15:23:02] <toulmean> should be less swamped in 30 minutes or so hopefully
[15:23:05] <oisinh> toulmean: yeah no worries, I have been doing the same all week so far myself :)
[15:23:26] <oisinh> toulmean:  should be in a reasonable place by then, but will be operating in working copy, you won't see any changes
[17:16:01] <oisinh> toulmean: I have a BPMN-only build here - will checkout, do build, create update site. Will need some little work to ensure samples come in correctly.
[17:16:21] <toulmean> oisinh: thanks for this, this is awesome
[17:16:35] <oisinh> toulmean:  not sure where you would like me to put it, it is just in a working copy now
[17:16:45] <toulmean> at this point please stop there, and let me come in. Time is running thin on me for now
[17:16:57] <toulmean> what you could do: open a bug, attach it as a patch ?
[17:17:05] <toulmean> that'd be really great
[17:17:11] <oisinh> if you like yes, I can submit a patch
[17:17:20] <oisinh> will do that now....
[17:17:23] <oisinh> ls -l
[17:17:26] <toulmean> yes and I will vote you committer :)
[17:17:29] <oisinh> do wrong window!
[17:17:36] <oisinh> yay! :)
[17:17:37] <toulmean> thanks!!!!
[17:17:52] <oisinh> toulmean:  there will be more patches until it's 100% correct ;)
[17:18:06] <oisinh> toulmean:  you get to do the cruisecontrol ;)
[17:18:15] <toulmean> oisinh: oh yeah
[17:18:30] <toulmean> pretty cool, and I can't wait to submit a test suite
[17:18:51] <oisinh> toulmean: just remembered -- there's some optimizations I can do -- I'll spend a half hour doing them first
[17:19:01] <toulmean> kool
[17:19:03] <oisinh> then submit
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[18:58:03] <oisinh> quick state-of-play update on build work...
[18:58:21] <oisinh> I've made a mini-build (build and update site) for BPMN
[18:58:36] <toulmean> \m/ Oisin is my hero
[18:58:41] <oisinh> I've spotted an opportunity to generalize it so that it can be reused for the other projects
[18:58:56] <oisinh> so you just have to change a couple of paths and properties
[18:59:03] <oisinh> so I'm doing that now.
[18:59:24] <oisinh> I have to go out for a while, so I will get back to it later tonight and in the morning.
[18:59:42] <oisinh> I will submit a patch to BPMN
[18:59:56] <toulmean> sure
[19:00:01] <oisinh> then I will re-parameterize it for SCA
[19:00:01] <toulmean> thanks this is amazing
[19:00:12] <oisinh> and check it in, cos I have commit rights there ;)
[19:00:15] <toulmean> don't do it all, or we will really be lazy
[19:00:37] <oisinh> don't worry I will be on my moral high ground for *ages* now LOL
[19:01:06] <oisinh> someone else can grab the perl/python/bash scripting to auto-generate download pages for the website
[19:01:26] <toulmean> me! me!
[19:01:31] <toulmean> I'll do it in Ruby!
[19:01:33] <toulmean> :D
[19:02:02] <oisinh> ruby's fine for me, I can hack that better than perl any day of the week
[19:02:49] <toulmean> I've been through with Perl, and still running :)
[19:03:04] <toulmean> away, that is. Fast.
[19:03:14] <oisinh> I've learnt Perl twice, then deliberately forgotten it.
[19:03:50] <toulmean> yep, tried Python for fun, found it disgusting
[19:04:08] <toulmean> hacking in php those days for babel, and it really sucks when you are used to ruby too
[19:04:22] <toulmean> anyways...
[19:04:47] * toulmean is putting back his big red helmet, and climbing the great ladder
[19:05:05] <toulmean> See you later, got those people who left with the gas open
[19:06:06] <oisinh> later.
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